Ep -368: Silent Hill.

Thank you. Hello boys. How's it going? Hi guys. How's it going? I'm good. I watched the County Crows documentary. You were talking about the you had to, you said I believe were your words. Crows Who made you? It was your head. I was on a s I was on a hot streak. Okay. I was on a hot streak.

Like I watched the Swamp Dog documentary. It's so sick. Who's Swamp Dog? Swamp Dog's a musician. You'd it's a sick documentary, you'd love it. Okay. It's great. So this is all this is this is coming off the Wings Doc. You were five. I watched the Wings Doc. I watched I was on I watched this movie Real quick, I I don't mean to interrupt. I want you to take us from wings to counting crows.

Seven degrees of separation. Take us. Okay. Well wings Wings and crows have wings. So there's the there's the It literally came up one. Seven degrees just popped up and you fish play. I was just watching like rock documentaries and like rock and roll movies. I watched I was on a streak and I'll tell you some of the good ones. High points. If you're a canopy user, you can find these. If you're not

Good luck, because they're hard to find. And I was trying to like I almost bought like a this$35 kino DVD of this movie I wanted to watch. Called Tokyo Pop, nineteen eighty six, and I was like, I wanna watch this movie and then I was like, Let me just do a quick canopy search. Boop, there. Free. Done. No commercials. Perfect quality. Starring Carol Burnett's daughter as a New York punk. who just gets the wild hair and moves to Tokyo, joins a band of Japanese dudes and becomes famous.

And it's very small movie. It's very good though. Music's great. Then I watched a movie called But Not a Duck. Not a just a rock movie. I I'm equally interested in rock movies. Yes, okay. So you weren't just on a dock streak. I'm just on a rock streak. I just wanted to watch music movies. Okay. I like that. So then I did watch some docks. Another drama that I watched though was called Half Cock.

And it stars I had the soundtrack once and it's like nineteen ninety five on Matador. All kinds of great bands, Slant Six, fucking Unwound, all these great bands are all over the soundtrack. And it stars all these Louisville like punks and indie emo kids. Really? That and Ian Savonius from the Makeup and Nation of Ulysses plays this young girl's older brother who's a total dickhead.

And he's in a famous band in Louisville, so I think he slaps his sister, so his sister steals his van full of gear and takes off. And with her four friends, they just start playing noise shows all over these all over the way they started. Yeah. And then the like the band The Grifters is in it. It's a sick movie. If you can watch Half-Cocked, watch it. Then I watched the Wings Dock, high point.

Right, right. So he said Curse Bloosh. I watched the HBO music box documentary about counting crows. I don't know why. Wait, you went you did go directly from Wings to the Counting Crows? Damn. And you had to Yeah. I didn't have to. I didn't have to. Yeah. I thought I was like I love it. Did I miss out? Was the Counting Crows good and I just f I just They might have been good. Well dude, one of the guys in the band, Dan, who recorded like Op Ivy's record.

Well you're saying they were they're local to us, so that's I mean that's that's uh makes it important interest for sure. Green day fifteen, fucking crimp shrine, all the shit was done by this guitar player in Counting Crows. Weird. But no one knows a county pla the County Crows guitar player. They only know fucking what's his face? What's his I watched him for two hours. I don't know his name. Adam Durrett. Is his name. Dreadlocks, McGee. I know dreadlocks, but I could if you I

You could say fucking Wanton Zingerham Murphan. And I'd be like, Yep Sorry. Want Wonter Zingerham Murphan. You know, from the Counting Crows. He's the guy with the dreadlocks in the County Crows. Wanter Wander Zingerham Murphan. What? What? Sorry. Just a very common name. I mean John Doe or Thingy Murphy's and that time everyone was just named Walter. Then Murphy and Murpin It's single Murphin, get it right, show some respect.

How dare you? I think it's Wonton too. Did you say Wonton? Yeah, it's definitely Wonton, not Walter. My name's Wonton Zingerham Murphan. You might remember me as the guy with the dreadlocks and the county crest. Oh my god. Anyway the band sucks. And that dude is a sad sack of shit. Yeah, what's what's what's what's their big arc in the uh in the dock? What did they have to overcome and did they overcome it? Yeah, he does. It's called making a It's called bad taste.

No, he's got like dissociative disorder and it seems like it was really depressing and it was a bummer. Understood. Yeah. I got you. Yeah. But his arc is Submit a demo to a record label, get uh straight up bidding war from all labels, get a huge signing bonus, become extremely famous. What? Then go home after your first ever tour, first ever record, top of the charts. Get bummed because people are mobbing your house. Cause you got this dumb dreadlock?

Those dumb white boy dreadlocks. And then fucking move to LA really quick'cause Johnny Depp calls your ass, goes, Come down to come down here. Everyone's famous. No one's gonna bug you. No one gives a shit about you down here. And he did, and he moved to LA and was a uh fucking bartender at the Viper room. And everything worked out. So after counting crows, he's

Bar backing? Between record one and record two, he's bar backing at the Viper Room. And what happened after record two? Nothing?'Cause they disappeared after the they had like one hit record and then nothing, right? Well they had a second record. And it didn't sell seven million records, it sold only two point six. Oh, only two point six? Right in the toilet bowl. Yeah, imagine just the flush sound of having. Had some bad reviews.

And um they've made a lot they've made I would say a lot, but they've made like eight records and they still tour. Jesus. I bet they're probably doing good now. So but the whole thing was he was bummed that he got famous, even though that was his whole plan. Yes, but he also has got like a mental illness. Yeah. That he's he's he's just a bummer. Well he's a chronic he's he's a certified bummer.

Awesome. Well I'm done talking about the kind of grows. But once again, I'll tell you what it did do. My wife and I were like, Hey man, you might not have any hair, but at least you don't have that guy's hair. It's true. And it and it was not even the dreadlocks. Now he's got like new hair. What's his new hair? You ever seen a regular man's medium long hair parted on the side looking like you're working a office?

What was fucking Garth Brooks' alter ego called? Chris Gaines. Does he have a kiss has he have the Chris Gaines haircut? He wishes he had a Chris Gaines haircut. At least he had a bleached tips. Chris Gaines was fine as hell. Hot take But you can also say that Garth Brooks is fine as hell. No. Oh he's not. He's a he's a tub of shit. Chris Gaines though. Whoa.

Look, I make up a swoop of surprise as hell. So a tub of shit with a wig on it and a fucking swoop and you're in? Yeah. Okay. You live through emo, you know all about it. I had the swoop. I had the swoop myself. I would take the swoop again. I would not take White man dreadlocks. We can give you hair but it's only white man dreadlocks. I'd be like, keep your white man dreadlocks.

It's a yellow stay bald. It's a hard note. Yeah. I'm just gonna appropriate an old man's haircut. Not an old man myself, but by any means. But your your dad was old. Young as You could say you could say that'cause you're Mr. Jones is my dad. Call me Zorhan Micker Flipper. Sorry. Call me Ton. Ha ha ha. His parents were in the business of also pro appropriating cultures, so he will name you Wonton and a gong goes off in the distance. And forevermore it does.

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I know. I kinda s I don't feel like a reviewer. or are we just talking? It's just it's just like a'cause I'm outside here's a movie. Now go do a Forever Midnight episode. Yeah. We're not we we go through the movie. Or just talk about the movie. We're critics, Brian. Are we? We're critics. Am I a jean shallot? That's a haircut I would take. The shallot shall be the shell. I went full shallot. The tightest, blackest curls. Impossibly tight.

Yeah. Uh I guess so I guess we're considered a We do, we review them in in our way. We do critique oh boy do we. Yeah. I mean Yeah, we talk shit about movies. Yeah. We might tonight. I won't, but I have a feeling someone in this room might. Who me? No. Not me.

Somebody who went into this movie already hating it might not like it. I don't know. I was watching this movie going like I think Jeff's gonna turn around. He's gonna turn it around. I I wished it while I was watching it'cause I just gotta say a little prayer. Yeah. I was like Oh Dark Lord of Pyramid Head come in Bring Jeff to me and give me a hug.

Um Lake of Fire. Um but our friend Lorraine, Top Dog Lorraine, Homie Lorraine, mm-hmm, has picked a number of movies for us in the past, Lorraine. Yep. And uh has picked this singer, Silent Hill from two thousand and six. Yes. The exquisite. Silent Hill from two thousand six. Wow, okay, okay. I I'm just I'm now just prodding. You set me up, you just setting it up. Team team me up Lorraine's a very busy person and wasn't able to call and leave a voicemail but

Um, they said I could call her, so hold on a second. Yeah, yeah. We w I always love to hear re people reasons why they they pick a movie for us. I'd love to hear their thoughts on it and um just get a little context. Why they want us to talk about'em right now. Absolutely. It's fun it's fun for me. This is Lorraine. Please leave a message Lorraine. Thank you. Well that didn't work. Oh. Hello. Liz is Lorraine.

Oh I'm sorry I I tried to call and it didn't come through the first time, but how are you doing? I'm doing well. How are you? We're doing very well. Hi Lorraine. Hi Lorraine. Hi. We're recording right now. Did you say you're in New Zealand? That's right. I'm in New Zealand so I'm probably racking up those those cellular dollas right now. Just kidding. Okay, good. It's not a thing anymore, right? Ha ha ha.

Remember when long distance charges used to cost like a hundred dollars to call someone in a different state? Oh yeah, you call like a chick you like in fucking Michigan and Yeah. I grew up in Los Angeles too and literally like the next town o was a different area code and it was like, Oh, I guess we can't have friends in like the next town over.

'Cause we can't call them. Right. Yeah, this is not gonna work out. Long distance relationship literally is too expensive. It will not. Well we're thanks you guys for doing this. Do you want me to Just run through really fast so you can get back to your business. That sounds probably best. We're all great. Yeah. We're excited to hear from you.

I'm so glad you guys are doing this train wreck of a movie that I've been thinking you guys You watch it. This is one of my favorites now. But I do wanna say that I have a very strong love-hate relationship. I mean the real reason why I love Silent Hill properties in general has nothing to do with actual films. Oh really? Is it the game? Yeah, I was a huge gamer like in nineteen ninety nine when the um I think Game Informer put out like a whole

Uh, pre I think it was like a pre game release or something like that. Anyway, I was just hooked from like that one article on. I've just been obsessed with the video games. Oh yeah. And um let's see. So yeah, I I totally consumed anything that had like Team Silent or Silent Hill. I played like the first four video games that were all original.

Kind of studio Konami is like the game company that put it out. Anyway, I don't want to bore you guys too much. You know, like 2006 rolled around and I was like, yes, they're finally making something for these complete nerds. i.e. myself. And so when I went and saw the movie, I'm sure like any other gamer of the Silent Hill universe was like, what the hell is this?

Were you disappointed in it? I think um oh yeah. Initially I was like, what the hell is this? I mean, just just from the lore alone, you know, like It it very much is like the bones of the first video game, which is like a dad searching this fog ridden town for his lost daughter. Mm-hmm.

But they kinda put female protagonists, which in hindsight is awesome. Those ladies are fucking awesome. Every one of them watching. Yes. They're such badasses and hot and like Anyway, but it the nerd inside of me was like, Oh my god, I not only but have done to this bastardize this whole

gaming franchise. And um I think the real beef that most the gamers had was that the pro like the the enemy in this, the baddie in this is like Pyramid Head. That comes from the second game and the second game is the only place that that baddie showed up and it's like the the anti just spoiler alert for anybody that's never played the video game from two thousand and one, just you know.

The a the antagonist is the protagonist's like like shadow self basically. He's just like fighting himself as like Dammit. But of course I had twenty five years, so I was w just about to play it. No. But yeah, I mean other than that, the um there's some weird stuff that happens throughout the film where it's like it's like fade to blacks. I'm told that like a bunch of stuff was cut from the original film.

And that's why during like those end scenes you've got these weird like fade to blacks and then You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. They like don't occur in the whole fucking film and then right at the end where all the like like all the Danou Mont, all the shit is like ramping up. They just like fade to black. I'm like, why are we fading to black from like out of this temple? Like what the hell is going on? Right.

But like one of the best things about this film is that they that whole opening scene where she's like in a fixed camera walking down the alleyway. Like that's what got me hooked to the game. That is very true and very honest to that. Like first Like you know, I don't know if you guys are gamers, but like there's gotta be like a cash and that really drew me in. When I first played it, it was like it was like a life changing cutscene from a video game. God, I have such a nerd.

I w I wondered that watching it like that. I love that. And I love the bodies and I I hear that he tried to do this very practically. I know it doesn't look like it'cause they use like in posts a few you know, things to like to make the baddie skinnier or taller or whatever. But they really tried.

They were working practically and like fighting, you know, practically and stuff like that. That's pretty cool. So why did you pick it for us, Larry? Oh yeah. Well just'cause it's like oh yeah, you know me. It's the formula's there, right? It's like weird, dilapidated. Crazy ass like

Yeah, abandoned buildings and shit. I was gonna say you have a uh abandoned buildings. Lorraine fucking loves that. It's a whole entire fucking town full of nothing. Sorry, you probably have to edit my bad words. Yeah, we don't we don't fucking curse on this show, Lorraine. It's it's Watch your mouth. I'm kidding, of course. I'm a total silent hill nerd too. And like the new uh uh sorry, the new uh movie was coming out. I don't even want to start to talk. It's gonna take too long.

But like the the movie in hindsight, as harsh as I was on it as like a true gamer and like purist. It really holds up and those schools are hot. I cannot stress that enough. I'm a basic human being and those things are fine. I love it. Yeah, we haven't even started talking about it. We haven't started talking about it. We're just getting into it. Thank you so much uh for talking with us, Lorraine, and thank you for picking it.

Yes, have to have a great time in New Zealand and tell Shell we say hi, please. I will tell then. Awesome. Thank you, Lorraine. Bye. Love you. Bye. She didn't realize she was out of town. I didn't realize that until right before What time is it in New Zealand, I wonder? Fucking 14 o'clock. Well thanks Lorraine. Thanks for uh picking this movie for us. Let's fucking get into Silent Hill. Honey, sometimes when you go to sleep, you go on a And sometimes you talk about a place.

Shun! Shun! Somebody! Help! Christopher, Sharon's gone. I need your help. I'm not okay. Please hurry. The fire started thirty years ago. I don't know what's happening. Do you know what's going on here? This place is completely cut off. When the dark one opens and closes the door to sad and deal. Where is she? I'm trying to find my wife! She looks exactly like Sharon. Why? Rose come on! Rose, hurry! It's coming!

To find your daughter, you must face the darkness of hell. It's okay, baby. Mommy's coming.

I mean you guys uh are are fans right? So yeah my s my history with this movie is I saw it in the theater when it came out and I only I did not never played the game but I watched our good friends Shane and Josh play the game. Like we would take lunch breaks from where we worked. We all worked in this warehouse. You where you work now. Where where I currently work, yeah. And um

We would take a lunch break, we'd get a big old we get a giant frosty over at Wendy's and we fucking go play Silent Hill. And I just watched these two dudes play Silent Hill and get scared out of my pants. Like a slow going movie for a half hour at a time for Infinity. Yeah.

And I would get scared shitless and these guys would scare the shit out of themselves. This is before Josh was actually the boss. Right. That sounds like it. He actually had a lunch break. And then we would run back to work and screw caps on bottles until um the end of the day.

Um but so when the movie popped up w we we all went to go see it together and it was uh I think we saw it in Roanert Park maybe? The old Oh the old one, yeah. The old one. And it was a fucking it was nuts. I mean I I did not expect

them to come up with a story that was any good, but there's there's already a framework of a story there. Yeah. Um but I did not I mean I was I was impressed. There's a few, even if there's like at least three games out by this point. I'm not sure which one they were playing. Um I don't remember much of w what happened in the video game, but I ended up really enjoying the movie. And I didn't I didn't recognize any of the people except Alex Krieg.

Um but now seeing so many things I recognized everyone. What's your origin story, Brian? I saw the theater too. I I was playing it when it came out, ninety nine. You were playing the game. You're familiar with the game even. Oh fantastic. And it scared the fucking shorts off me. And I

I don't think I ever played part two though. I only ever played one. Notoriously the the best one apparently. Right. All this all the cool shit that I love in this movie is from that movie. From that sorry, from that game. Yeah. Um but yeah, so I you know, but

It was it was crazy'cause like I was never really interested in like video games really. Like I played Nintendo and shit of course growing up, but this is like the first adult game that I got and played because I was like, Oh, this is genuinely scary and fun. But also like I was

It like I had to shut it off a few times where I'd would be playing it. That's awesome. And it would fuck me up and I'd be like, Ah I can't fucking play anymore tonight. And I like to be scared, of course. I mean look we're fucking talking about horror movies all the time, but like

It was gnarly. So when the movie was a little bit of a scares you than watching a movie'cause it way more involved. Exactly. You're the you're the person, right? Like it's a star. Yeah. That's pretty great. Yeah. So and that that's it is a cool thing when they do a m a movie from a video game that you know'cause you're like, Oh, they're gonna have that's gonna be this, you know, or whatever. And it of course it's not quite that, but it is basically that, you know. But I I definitely like it.

I remember going like yeah, I think I might have went and saw it alone. Maybe because I don't think it's a good idea. I wonder if anyone brought their controllers to this Sidon Hill movie. That's such a funny idea. But uh no, I just remember being like I really loved it. Mm-hmm. And to this day I fucking love this movie. Right up. I love it. Capital L love this movie. I'd only seen it once before and I remember like it it was delivering some Scares.

And there are times where I'm like, Oh, this is like a video game. I think are they trying to cater to the video game folks by like look it up look at the map? the cutscenes from from the game and just r recreated them. Like just like use those same can camera movements, the same yeah angles and just kinda redid Yeah.

Those things where there's like the light'cause like that's how you are in the game. You're having you know, you're finding the key and the mouth and the pipe. You know, the pipe is how you're gonna fucking bash shit and stuff. So like all in you know, one of the most used weapon in the whole movie is these pipes, you know. Everyone's got pipes and shit and so like

Things like that where it's like, yeah, like they you know, when you make a video game like they just did Five Nights at Freddy one and two or whatever, like they're they're heavily Pointing those at the people that are playing those, you know. Yeah, but you can't just show the cutscenes, otherwise it would be boring. Like I've already played this, I've watched it ten times. Like you have to have something Yeah, there's a story there and stuff. And yeah, and and like

It feels even though this is two thousand six, it feels very nineties to me for some reason. I agree. I thought about that too. It has a vibe, but but like it was funny too, because I even like I was talking to Alyssa about this and uh and I was like, Yeah, I don't think Jeff likes this movie. And

She thought the same thing. I think we both thought it was like came out around ninety nine or something like that'cause we're like, Oh, it's ninety two. You should like it, right? But it's two thousand six. It has a very two thousand early two thousands vibe to me. Like the the same kind of font they always use this weird font and everything's always like this weird tinted

C I don't know. It's very two thousands. Sure. Absolutely. So when did you see this movie first, Jeff? I think at your house. I think you really I think you you I watched it with you at your house back in the fucking year. I think so. I thought I'd only seen it one time before. Uh yeah, I've uh no, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I watched it with you like w uh at your house. Okay. Then I guess I'd seen it a couple times'cause I know I saw it in the theater.

Um this was back when you lived on Tupper, like back in the day when we first started hanging out. I lived on Tupper in two thousand six for sure. Yeah. Until two thousand seven. I went out and bought a DVD of this. Like I remember being like That movie's good enough, I'm gonna go purchase it. I mean granted at that time we weren't streaming everything, but like still Yeah, I was like invested enough in this movie to be like, give me the hard copy. Right, right. You know. Sick. Um Yeah, I

I watched it again tonight and I fucking I really enjoyed it. I like the music. I love the act music is straight from the game. Is it music straight from the game? Oh it's good. Except for the Johnny Cash song, but everything else is. Yeah, the music is fucking tight. I can see how that would be great in in the video game for sure. Um I d love the look of it. For the most part just the and I love the idea of a

constantly burning sit town. Right, which is based off of Centralia. It's a real thing. Which really this movie and nothing but trouble share that in common. And it's so me. Yeah. It's true. Totally. Totally. But yeah, I I mean I had these weird watching it this time around had this weird like Oh shit! Duffer, Doofer Brothers got the upside down.

Yeah, there's a fucking little butt flakes everywhere and like fucking you know, there's like I don't know what to call near bathroom, but yeah, okay, sure. Butt flakes. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Ash flakes, yeah. Oh my gosh, like it's like

Like the shadow of the t of the same town. Right. It's upside down. It's straight up the upside down. Totally. And I never put that together watching straight down. I didn't either. I put it together literally to an hour ago. And there's it's foggy too. Yeah, it's a whole whole the whole thing. Like floaty shit. I mean up, you know it's and it's got these weird old monsters. Yeah. Butt flakes again. Oh yeah, the butt flakes. Tell me why they're butt flakes. Like

Wha what experience have you had with butts? You just don't want to get one of those in your eye. Let me just tell you that. Or your throat. Or your mouth. Or your mouth. You don't put your mouth Ah, it's not like snow where you're like It's a snowflake. No, it's a butt flake. You don't want those in your mouth. Yeah.

Those are messy. When you shoot how dry is your Yeah, does fire shoot out and burn everything around and then those are butt flakes? No, see butt flakes is if it's off the is it the skin off your butt? Butt flakes are even grosser. Butt flakes are okay. When you shit your pants I'm with you so far. And then you don't wipe.

Yes. And it all dries. And then you take it. You also don't have a shower. So you have to just reach back there and just shake out the butt flakes after they're all dry. Like it's dandruff. Like dandruff. Yeah. I'm just telling you, this is what the evil shadow people do. I don't do this. I would never I don't know about this. I don't know about this. I don't know. Like It sounds very specific. I don't know. That's interesting.

I mean I clean up a lot of poop from a dog. It's basically dingleberries floating around. Dry Dingleberries. Right. Yeah. Right. Demon's Dingleberries. Demons Dingleberries. The better. I won't call I don't need to call them buffets anymore. Thank you. Demon Dingle Demonberries. Okay, good. We sorted it. Try try it out though, yeah. Like leather, fruit leather. Yeah, oh yeah.

Don't yeah, fruit. Fruit. It's it's made of fruit, everybody. That's what they I used to do when I would we always used to we would always we have a hu I have a hundred-year-old orange tree in my yard and I would pick up all the oranges and they'd go pick up all the dog poop and I go, I had to pick up the dog fruit.

We call that dog fruit. That's awesome. That's really funny. It all s see it all circles around. It all comes back. Um but yeah, but that like realization was like crazy this time watching it around, being like, Okay. Maybe the Duffer brothers aren't So the whole Stranger Things is stealing from it this, that, this and that. It's nothing original. It's all stolen and it's not a little bit more than that. That's why everyone's like this because

It's all shit you like already. Yeah. You're like, I like this flavor. Yeah, you've already had that flavor. The Stranger Things logo. It's vanilla mixed with chocolate, mixed with uh strawberry. You love these things. Everyone everyone who kn knows anything. Knows that the Stranger Things logo is a Stephen King's logo. Right. The Stephen King logo is a Stranger Things logo that starts with an S, ends with a ying. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's in the same font with a big N and the big fucking There's nothing original about the show. Yeah. It's true. You know. It's true. But it is one of those it's like a mixtape of all that good music. That's right. That's right. It's just it's now that's what I call music. Fucking eighty four. That's what I call horror movies. Nineteen eighty four. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it is though. It is is spoon feeding you the things you like.

And that's the only reason why we we're gonna continue to watch it'cause it's like we've already Oh yeah. I like this flavor. Yeah. You know I like this flavor. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I g I I mean I hope they start working on that talisman because I'm oh Sorry, we'll get on that in a little bit, but Oh was that a thing? Apparently on the talisman, which is I'm in I've just about to finish the first book this year. S Stephen King aside thing we're gonna talk about for a second is that

This year there's a the third book of the Talisman Black House trilogy is coming up. On my fucking birthday. So sick. Perfect. Couldn't be more perfect. Couldn't be better. It's my favorite Stephen King book, the one he wrote with Peter Straub, the Talisman. The sequel is incredible and they're putting out the third one. Right. Fuck yeah, dude. I'm hyped for you. It's apparently supposed to wrap up the Dark Tower too in a in a way. So sexy.

Fuck. And then he's got a Holly book come out. Uh again. Of course he does. This man this Holly character. Can't he's yeah, he's in love. He's intense with his own mind. I have an imaginary friend I made up. What happens when he starts going like senile? And it like Do you think his books will just get better? We might be seeing it. I know. I w I wonder like somehow it just becomes amazing'cause he's just like

Just unhinged. Yeah, just like oh like all the normal stuff that he's so good at, but then also taking all the other shit and just like layering it on top of itself so it's just like this fucking yeah snake eating this butthole. Snake sucking his own. Classic snake eating a butthole. Exactly. A snake with his wiener in his mouth, you know. Oral Boris.

But um I I I'm I know you don't like it, Jeff. And I haven't he hasn't said he's like Jeff I knew I did I didn't like it then. Uh I I really didn't remember anything about it other than that I didn't enjoy it at the time. And I still don't enjoy it. I went in with open arms like, dude, we've watched such shit. I am ready for my bar is lowered. I'm ready to enjoy this and get a reassess. Yeah. I still was bored to death. Oh my God. Really? Name one!

Dude, I'll name them a bunch. I know. I I know the the seeds are, but I they're they did nothing for me. I couldn't connect this movie at all. Man. I'm disappointed I'm disappointed myself because I'm I'm ready to I'm ready to love it.

Everyone around me loves it. I see these fucking characters at all the fucking cons. I know it's very popular. I've never played the games either, so that might be another reason I don't love it. Sure. Because I ha I don't have a connection there either. I've never played the games. I thought you like the game. Yeah, the movie just didn't do didn't do it for me, man. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's I I just like feel like even if you'cause like I know people that

never played the game either, but they like the movie. But I think there's so I think there's things that are genuinely scary and that hold up in this movie. I think the movie holds up. I really do. Um but I'm curious to hear from you like what it is it pot I mean yes, it's bored you but like You know, there's a fucking dude that's basically a centibyte in the bathroom. Like what is it? This is feels like a direct Well and and and my favorite part of the movie is

really exactly that. It's fucking Hellraiser three, the bar scene with all the fucking the cob or the barbed wire. But it's yeah, it's the end of the movie with the barbed wire chick coming with the bed and the fucking everyone up. I'm like, this is just straight out of Hellraiser. Yeah. And this is the best scene of the movie in my opinion. Yeah. Granted, like the whole get in there. Portion of the movie? Fuck that.

Whatever. Getting to Silent Hill, whatever. I like it. It's fine because I don't understand why the the cop um was concerned about the girl to begin with and why she was harassing them and following them and then pulling them off. I didn't understand that. She a bad cop or something. In the movie. What was her what was her big concern? It just sounded like a child crying and a mom consoling her. Like so what was her big to do about it? Was that even your mom? Like right.

write the fucking thing down and then f then what was she pull them over for later because they weren't speeding or anything. They just drove off on an empty road. In that time supposedly they called in, the dad had called in and so supposedly the'cause they were missing? Yeah. Or she was kidnapped, basically,'cause that's what happens, like um a mom or a dad will kidnap kidnap, take their child And then the other partner will report it as a kidnapping. Okay.

Fucking Ned Stark said that was a kidnapping. It was filmed. Well they cut it out. They didn't yeah, or they filmed they didn't film it. She said that they they cut off the credit cards and stuff. So like he already was being proactive about Her leaving and trying to prevent her from doing whatever she's doing.

Going to talk to the little girl alone like was also kinda sketchy. But also I guess that like I mean if if she thinks she's getting kidnapped, yeah. Yeah. I get that, but I I didn't see any reason for her to want to Talk to her. Yeah. Well that was she walks up to the girl and and says ask her a question, the girl goes out and talked to strangers, so she goes, Oh good girl.

Yeah. But is she still standing at the the at the car when the marketing the fucking license plate down and being supported and then when they get pulled over, what was the what was the plan here? I'm gonna drive fast on this empty road and hope they

She doesn't find me. She's gonna catch right up to you. What was your plan? Yeah, the plan is that's not good. What was your plan there? What w what were you gonna do? Where else were you gonna turn off? She's gonna see you. She evaded her for a little bit. The tiniest little bit. Yeah, because the thing is like you're already in

Silent Hill by the time she died. And that's the thing, that's the way that she was able to get into Silent Hill is because she was basically in the same pocket that the thing was open for, the gate or whatever was open for a second. So but yeah, I mean there was a chance, you know, she was out for her bike, like

Yeah. You know, s a five minute maybe four not even five minutes, probably two minute like you know, head start. She's bumping around asking everybody how to get to Silent Hill. Like everyone is asking everybody how to get to Silent Hill. Yeah. And then she s gets pulled over at the Silent Hill this away sign. Like straight up. That was fortune. Oh, it's a good thing it was right there. Yeah. I mean for her she just realized that if I if I don't do this

This lady's arresting me now or we're we're at least not able to go do this. So at least she tried to like make it happen. I didn't even think that it was there was a kidnapping component because I didn't really see That. Yeah, I can't remember if it was actually film and cut out or if it was uh

Like supposed to be filmed and then because of pacing and time restraints they just didn't film it. But there is that chunk that's missing where basically that cop gets a fucking uh you know gets a call on the walkie. You know. She puts it together. Yeah. Like oh.

Yeah, they did they don't say it in the movie, so it just seems weird, like why is she back? Like what is her problem? She's just hung up on this chick. Right. Well you uh also for a character driven, you want her to be y you know, she's a bad cop, so she's a threat.

Right. And this woman's just trying to get to her kid, her sleepwalking kid. Who I don't love the kid. I don't like the actor very much. I'm not a fan of the actor. Really? I th there's something about that actor I'm just like And that they play two characters like three.

Three Too much. They're in something else too, right? They're they're they're in a bunch of other stuff, I think. Yeah, I mean she's grown now too. Like she's she does cons. She's like a full on adult now. But she's not an actor continuing at she? She's acting, yeah. Okay. I'm wrong.

Not a fan of the kid. For some reason there's something about the kid that I just don't um that doesn't click with me. I don't think they're they're not acting as you don't being a kid. I'm right there with you. They're they're like they they're not like a good child actor. They're just kind of a cool looking kid. That's my opinion. I'm with you. Um but that so I Brian's looking at you strange but Brian hates me. Jeff's like, You talk shit. I love it. That's correct. Um

I just don't yeah, something about it. But that doesn't matter. I like and I and the first time I saw the woman who played the mom. I was just like, Oh, I've never seen this person before. They're interesting looking person. Sure. I think all the women that it is all women in this movie that are the protagonists. It's cool and that it's all these killer actors. Like I love Lori Holden and I

Certainly love Alice Krieg. They don't need the men in this movie and that was like a s thing they put in after the fact. Really? To just like oh we need men in this for some reason. Let's have these studios You don't need that shit at all. I love that it was women. Yeah and it was like yeah all about these w like get rid of that side story. I don't give a fuck about this cop and the dad fucking around. Well here's another thing too. That cop gives us also doesn't exist. He's not a cop. He's...

They showed a picture of him in nineteen seventy four. At his actual age lifting that kid out of the fucking burner thing. Well, I think that I think that it was supposed to be that he was younger than, like he was like a rookie cop. But he didn't go.

I'm just saying It's thirty two years later. I know. I know I'm just saying. You know? So h I think he's And he didn't get stuck in the the limbo. He's also a spectre either. He's Yeah,'cause most of the town didn't. Most of the town left. Except for the people in the church, they're all dead.

Because they all fucking started this. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well the the mystery of it I love that they get trapped in a weird dimension I love. The whole that it's so foggy and smoky. It's not foggy, it's smoky. I love that. But like that that was a

a really genius thing they did in the game just'cause of the limitations of graphics back then. Like that's just how it looked because they couldn't render things fast enough. And I love that they made that a part of the story. I think that was really fucking genius of them back in the day making the game. For the movie I don't love the look so much, just having everything be super foggy. I kinda like it. And I love that it's that it's not like

Here are the things I like about it compared to most horror movies of that time. Yeah. I love that it changes periodically from the light time to the dark time with the fucking siren and shit, which is so sick. I love that Siren's bomb and then it changes to something and there's no explanation why. And it doesn't happen at the strike of a clock. It just happens

Periodic. Yeah. And when it happens, like it's already scary. That's a scary thing. You're fucked. And there's no reason there's no way to tell. And it shit gets hectic. When you're not in the church or you're not somewhere safe, then you're fucked.

I like that the the people that carry they carry birds around like like kind of a canary the coal mine. Coal mine stuff, yeah. Which is so sick. Like I still got fucked. Yeah, definitely. They ran off in time, but I still got fucked. Yeah. But like I like that. Like that's a cool like thing. Like

Yeah, that I mean it's it's also easy to not do to have costumes instead of makeup. They barely had to do anybody's fa they didn't do anybody's face in this movie. Like there's no monsters' faces. Yeah. Like There's no monster face on Pyramid Head, of course. The great children have faces, but they're all warped. Barely, yeah. They're mostly just fire, which is I like the when those kids came out, I was like, holy shit. Like I like the look of those kids, even I know it's a CGI effect.

I like the look of them. Only the fire stuff'cause the rest of it's actually those are practical s like rubber suits on all those people. Are they all people? It's one person. One p it looks like one person. That's one problem I have with that. Yeah. And they just they just d replicated it. Yeah. I feel like it I feel like you they should have just Jordorowski'd it and got fucking uh a hundred kids, it would have been cooler.

But I do like that look and I mean I don't love the like fire part of it. I think I could do it without that part. I did like that. But like I like the weird side mouth all fucking weird and they're all little and crazy. Yeah, I like the little they look like children and they're crying and like walking up on her in the back. I'm gonna pick one of these days very soon. But it's uh I I like that about it. And I like that I like that there weren't faces. Like even the nurses, no faces.

Yeah. Nobody had any fucking faces. The g the weird guy with the just the legs and the spurting fucking center piece. Like Lorraine was saying that the nurse thing and the pyramid thing, that's from the second story. The second game.

Those are like manifestations of his guilt about certain a certain situation he was gone through. So in this movie it doesn't make any fucking sense. It's just a r a random spooky looking thing that's cool. Yeah, I mean and the the Pyramid Head thing was it became so popular that they just kind of folded it into the rest of the lore.

From the games. Mm-hmm. And like this where it's just like this is just a manifestation of all this other stuff. It wasn't attached to this guy like it isn't. That represents his guilt. Same with the nurses. Those are that's all about him and his sexualization of these nurses'cause his wife was dying in the hospital. Right.

Really blah blah blah blah. So this this is this is haunting him specifically. And these are just like, oh these things look cool, we'll throw them in the movie because they're very popular. Right, right, right. Totally. That does that they actually make sense in the game makes me want to play the game because I like that I like the way they look. Mostly. And I remember them from the game. I remember the nurses from the game. So I must have been watching these guys play silent.

I mean I'm surprised that I never played it because that is like all that shit is what I would really like and I'm like oh it's basically Silent Hill but with all these other rad things. Yeah. Which is also the reason why they made the movie like this. It's like We're just gonna give people all these things and put it in there'cause like who knows it'll be a part two, so we're probably I wanna shut it in here.

Ad adapting shit that franchises weren't on people's minds. They're like, We got one shot to make a movie, so let's just fucking do it. Yeah. Who knows if maybe like the year two thousand two they're like, Hey, Silent Hill, we'd like to buy the rights for the movie for Silent Hill And they're like, Well We wrote a script, it's not enough cool shit happening, and then Silent Hill's like, I got some cool shit we could do. And then they make Silent Hill two the game.

maybe with it on their mind that they're gonna make a fucking movie a little bit if they had sold the rights. When did Resident Evil come out? Was this before Silent Hill came out? Oh, I don't know. I think that was I think Resident Evil was in the nineties. Early because the first one, the graphics are fucking rough. Maybe in early offs, 2002, maybe? I want to say it's maybe nineties.

No, maybe not. The movie, the first Resident Evil. Oh, I thought you were talking about the video game. No, the video games came out in the early nineties. Yeah, like uh ninety six was Resident Evil two, I think. That's what I th that's I thought like the first one. But the movie when did the movie come out? Because I think that kicked off this

This thing of like silent adapting Silent Hill and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see it. Alone in the Dark was another one that came out around this time. The games nineteen ninety six. Uh nineteen ninety eight were the first two. First when did the movie come out though? Uh let's see. First Resident Evil one. Uh two thousand two. Yeah, that was right. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Two thousand two movie. Okay. So that was like yeah, the jump where people were like, Oh, we can make

Scary movies from scary video games. Right. That one was weird'cause it didn't really follow any of the

The games. I played Resident Evil games as a kid. I didn't play the Silent Hills for some reason, even though I would probably would have loved them. They kinda put put like just like cherry picked stuff, right? Like there's a little bit. Yeah. I mean I remember like the Maybe I was playing one of the later ones, but stuff that's in the movie, the big o like the big crazy w dude off the first one and like some of the other things are like in there.

In Resident Evil. Yeah, I'm like but it might have been Resident Evil two or three. I don't really remember Resident Evil. I remember it just being kind of like a zombie thing, right? Well there's zombies but there's also like mutated crazy monster guys. That's what's great about the games for sure. I don't remember

The movie so I only watched the first one and didn't love that, so I didn't bother with the rest of it. But like the the umbrella corp and all that stuff, that's from the the game and that's from that shit. So they kinda like I said, like they kind of just like took that but also were

You know, or like oh we gotta come up with a it wasn't like one for one no no like we we didn't care about that stuff in the early aughts. That right maybe representing it like completely for the fans, like we'll take We'll cherry pick the cool looking things and we'll just make our own shit with it. And that's what's funny. This is what happened in this too.

says that she was such a nerd for Silent Hill, the game. Yeah. And that those people the the people that were so invested in the game were disappointed turned off by weirdness of like Combining all the cherry pick stuff into one. Which I could see why you'd be irritated about that. But if you have one shot and you want to see a Silent Hill movie, you want to see Pyramid Head, I'm assuming. Oh yeah. Yeah. Some people are like In the theater standing up, not canon. Not canon. Not yet, too soon.

But like I lo like when you first get like Pyramid Head it's fucking bananas and like covered in bugs. I love the I love that he's coming out of all those fucking crazy bugs. I don't love the bugs and it took me a minute to find out what they were. I was like, Are they rats or are they bugs? I can't see it. He's all hi.

Squash. It's two like human faces on a little cockroach. Right. Uh that's my least favorite thing in the movie by far is the way that those things look. But like just like Bugs that'll eat your ass or something.

scary as fuck, you know. I don't love yeah, butts they they live off uh uh butt flakes. Exactly. They will literally eat your ass. And if you got if you have a a matted cake of doo doo that you've been letting letting letting dry in there, then that's that's where they come from. That's where the eggs start.

Those came out of Pyramid Guy's ass. Did you know that dude ain't wiping his ass? That's why the reason the back is split open for for his little apron. And why they're in the air because they have wings and they're just fluttering around in there and they're just hit Kicking kicking the dust into the air, exactly. When when you when the eggs first flutter, more doo doo flakes. That's what the int yeah, the the first birth of the doo doo roaches set those things away.

Uh when he comes out the door and it's like I think you see him once before he comes out, or is do you see him come out of the front door the first time? That's my reclamation just the first time he just burst the burst out, but I don't remember the bugs, right? Yeah, when he gets him in the room with by himself, uh he's just bringing bugs with him all the time. Is that the same in the game? Yeah.

Oh well the bug ba I'm sure about that actually. I haven't played that one, so I'm sure that there's probably some bugs in there and it does something with that, but like It's just that's a disturbing thing, you know, to watch that coming out'cause they're already chewing on all those guys and then you know, he comes out that way. But when he when he like corners them in that room and the the the first time

The knife comes through the wall. You're just like what? Like and that's the thing I like about Pyramid Head, like I There's a weirdness that I don't love about it, for sure. Especially like we see it at cons and stuff. Like it's kind of an odd I mean it is like if you think about it, it's such an odd thing where there's this big pyramid head helmet. You don't see a face.

You think he's tall, but really he's just like On stilts. Stilts, like kind of stretched out or whatever. And then he has this fucking knife that's way too big. It's too heavy. It's too heavy, too big, so he's gotta drag it around. But then when he wants to use it, he he can wield it. Yeah.

And I kinda like that's the part where I'm just like, it's so absurd how big that knife is that I love that it comes through the door and it's just like When the you know the when I first saw that I was just like holy f what the fuck like

Right. This is nuts. Like, you know, see that. Like I like the the randomness and psychedelia of the whole thing. Like it's it's a nightmare. This whole movie is just a nightmare. Like you're looking for your child Your child is also other children. I I don't love the whenever they have to do a flashback, it's like film. There's certain stylistic things I think are lame, even though I like the look of it. There's not a point in this movie where I don't think

I don't think there's a bad shot in it for me. I'm like I love the framing of everything. Like especially the end of the movie. I'm like, I love the fucking purple and gold new power generation logo that they're worshiping. I love it. And I and I and I love Alice Krieg. And when Alice Krieg is on screen I'm fucking hypnotized. She's terrifying always. Yeah, why is why what is it about her? She's she can play a scary character. But it's funny like watching like

like making up behind the scenes stuff of this movie with her, like she's like such a fucking sweetheart. I bet. So smiley and so like the films are over. Yeah. Anytime she's ever been a villain, you are terrified of it. I I think I've seen her in something well and g I of course Ghost Story was the first thing I ever saw her in. I saw it. It was one of those movies I watched endlessly on video. It was probably

And it's such a weird one. Like we love Ghost Story, I I think collectively. Oh yeah. But it's like It's a slow movie filled with old. There's a lot of old And there's some weird shit and that yeah. And it's like and it's not only that, but it's like corny. It's like eighties and the twenties. Yeah. And and then it's like but she

is incredible in every scene she's in. Yeah. Oh yeah. And she's in some like erotic scenes that where she's amazing. She's in but she's mostly scary as fun. Yeah. Yeah. And But she was the witch in Griddle and Hansel. She was the board queen in the fucking Star Trek decoration. That's right. She was a she was the board queen. Fucking Leatherface foster mom? I've ever seen

I won't I won't uh react to that much. Um Yeah, when she when I saw her is the board queen and and I was I was blown away. That's the only Star Trek movie I've ever watched because it those board guys look so scary in the trailer but I have to see that one, whatever that is. Again, Santa Byron. Dude, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's no wonder I watched it. Well, I was an avid next generation watcher and when fucking

When Lucius of the Borg made his debut when he was captured, I was like, Oh no. I freak the whole my whole household freaked when fucking Picard got abducted by the Borg. It's like no way. And then they were like, We're making a movie. Yeah. That's so cool. But yeah, she's so sick and so talented and like such a perfect

like actor for that character. Yeah, she plays a good uh religious fanatic. She does. And all the actors said that or like people that were there or whatever it's like said that sh that She commanded such a presence that that whenever she would even just say stuff to the like

c casting crew to go do something or to do they're like, Yes ma'am they were like, Yeah, like straight up we'll do whatever, like just follow her She's a cult leader, yeah, follow her. And she could actually have a cult if she wanted, you know. She should have. But that's why it was so good that she'cause she really like was that, you know? Yeah. And I who's the woman who played um The the mother of the Oh, she's awesome. Yeah, I know her.

But then she yeah, she had but then she was like, oh you got can we all agree on that? That's a bad looking wish. She looked like Jareth from Labyrinth like was hit the sk was like on skid row or something.'Cause it's like the hair was big and yeah. I like her. But I I like I love her face and I love her making it. It's fucked. Yeah.

But I like even then I like the look. Like she's got like the pink makeup. It looks like it's got a Japanese like boutot looking. I know she kinda looks like uh like Asian almost like and her features are kind of Yeah, you know, but she's a white lady, but she kinda has like features that's

This is an entirely white cast. It's another problem of like wow, that's really impressively white. Yeah. But see like I look at this movie now and how it re like how it really like I don't know, like kind of mirrors Today, like society today, religion. Fucking shit up for everyone. Like straight up fanatical fucking

people that think that they are the all knowing, all holy, all fucking bullshit. They're judgmental and they have they have the most backwards way of cleansing sin from hurting the world. Yeah. Killing and Messing everything up from the city. Including everything and almost especially children. Yep. Yeah.

And that's the thing about this movie too. It's so random and it's like it shocked me when I first saw it. When they were like, Oh we're gonna cleanse the we're taking the mom and the daughter to this church and then lest t they send the mom on her way and they're like, Oh no, what's gonna happen? I'm like, What are they gonna do? Were they gonna kill her? Even worse. When they show her getting fucking roasted, they roasted her. Holy f and she's like

Not just starting to get roasted, she's fucking done. Oh yeah. She's cooked. Yeah. And alive. Yeah. It's like I was shocked. Because you're like, that is a child. Like how could like crisp style. That was pretty wild. And with grill marks, dude. Yeah. That was made me hungry. I was like, I'm gonna go get a fucking seam. I'm gonna go burn a hot dog real quick. Piece of piece of chicken.

That's what like Lori Holden looked like when she was getting burnt, like a fucking hot dog got it. That shocked me too. Yeah. That's shocking. Cause you don't often see in movies like the That happening. With skins boiling. You just see them go from fucking hot dog to black hot dog. Yeah. Like, you know, it doesn't like you don't have to be like them.

Bubble. Yeah. Then Strain against their constraints and then catch fire. Right. It f it looks seamless to me. Appealing and stuff. Like I still think the CG isn't that bad in this movie. Oh, it's bad. It's part of it. It's so much better than that. I like that part of it. I don't think it is. Oh, it looks so like shit to me. Compared to other CG though? Fucking hell. Compared to sh anything in the King Kong Peter Jackson movie, this is better.

King Kong Peter Jackson sucks. It yeah, it sure does, but this is better. Like I'm I feel like I'm such a like critic when it comes to that stuff, but I really don't feel like this movie has shitty CG. There's a couple moments that I'm like, uh, like the bugs, but like for the most part, I feel like because it is like not overuse because there is a lot of practical shit happening

But there's a l it feels like it was a lot of lots of things. There's a lot of CG. Well they were but they were doing a lot of shit where they had like all these sets where they would actually some hotel that was like just about to be re refinished. Like yeah, they were in some actual location. But but they but like the way that they were changing from like the fog world to the dark world and all that shit, like they were like having sets that were identical that were

like painted and s and and ch like changed over so that like yes, the changeover is CG, but like they're actual like when you're in a different one, it's a there's different set for that. I there's I did not mind the CG as much as I do like most movies. Like when I see like a Uh even a golem. I'm sorry Peter Jackson, you're my homie. But when I see a really golem I'm like, dude You're coming for Peter. I don't know. Something about wet a workshop where it's a little too wet.

Sorry, whether hopefully Lorraine's not still on the phone with me and she's next to Peter Jackson in New Zealand right now. Bad CGI usually will take me out of it. Like dog, I love the Frighteners. The CGI in Frighteners is so much worse than the CGI in Silent Hill. Yeah. Because there's there's no point to most of it. It's ridiculous. Why are you gonna face slide around the fucking What's going on? Yeah. At least this was like

At a reason, kind of. See, I I just feel like it it doesn't take me out and it doesn't make me think about it, so then it then it works. Yeah, that's the thing. It I'm usually. It's the complete opposite for me. Like it fully sucks me right out. It just looks so bad it takes. Hey, that looks pretty good. That really Really? No, it all just looks so He must have too good a T V so dated I I don't I the whole thing just

Sticks out to me. Really? Anytime it wasn't practical, I'm just like, oh there was times where I was like, Oh

Yeah, I did not mind it mostly. I'm already like prickly about it'cause I'm not enjoying my time and so the little things that aren't great are really gonna be grating on me. It's also long. That too. We were we were just on a hot run of like watching shitty movies, but they were fucking quick and they were nice to get in and out. This sucker was fucking long, but I don't mind the length of this. I don't mind the length of this. I don't mind the length of this. Unless you're bored to tears like

This guy? Yeah. So fucking long. I was enjoying them. I I like the mood of it. I there was no part of it that I was like that I was I can't connect to I can't connect to the story. I don't the fact that it's like all Basically a dream. I'm just like, I don't give a fuck what's happening. That's that shit I feel like. I think that's the reason I love session nine. I think Loring and I share this like dilapidated building fucking like

Yeah, c it is it is a vibe that these two and session I had to similar, yeah. Because I love the every time I see a location I was like, This looks like it's a real place. Yeah. But it's also and there's certain things that I'm like I don't know where that church was, but that's a dead. Manhattan sized church in a tiniest town in the world. And then they're like, Oh well that does the reason that is

okay with me is that this is a liminal space in another dimension in the upside down. Right. Like it is not a big it doesn't have to be make sense. It doesn't have to make any sense. Yeah. For sure. And I I do like movies like that where shit it's some kind of dreamscape and things are fucking weird and wonky and bizarre. But for some reason that just doesn't none of the

uh design clicked for me. I don't like the look of it. I don't like the story. The story's not engaging to me. I don't know, it just doesn't it doesn't work for me. I I can see I mean Pyramid Head for sure is cool. Yeah. I thought the guy I thought the guy the horrible man in the fucking bathroom was hellraiser.

That's the same guy that was in the I get it. Yeah, yeah. I didn't put that together until just now. Yeah. Well it's that part yeah, that part like is horrible when you find out like who Colin was and what his whole deal was, like with her Yeah. Horrible. But like then it makes it you you also don't mind that he's a fucking tortured soul. Absolutely. You fucking deserve that shit. Totally.

But also he seemed to fuck me loving it. His tongue was wagging every witch away. He was like he was very into it. Watching that now like'cause it was a thing where that wasn't part like the the director he d the or the actor started doing it just for a like joking around and the act and the director was like, you know what? Leave it in. Do that. And just present it to me. By your tongue, don't leave it in. Keep it wagging. But I do like the director was like

Full on gamer nerd love these fucking games. Like so much so that he put some money together and like Put some shit like film some stuff or did some stuff where he presented it to try to get the rights to make the movie. before he even had the rights. Like he was like so

Like so jazzed on the whole thing that he wanted to do it, you know, and I was like, Damn, like Well, it seems like he succeeded'cause a lot of people really like this movie, so it seemed like it he did his job. If you've seen the sequel or I mean there's a new sequel too or a prequel, but like

There's a at least three sequels, isn't it? There's a bunch of movie sequels. There's a whole television show. I know I've seen one. I've seen this one and I've seen part two. There's like a part two, the one that just came out? No, no, no. Part two, the old part two.

Revelation or something. I don't think it's called part two, but it's like Revelation. Just the second one that came out. Probably came out in like two thousand ten or something. And how was that? How was that? Oh, it's dog shit. Thrill bath? Oh yeah. Okay. Same same direction. No, no, I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. I I I'm just guessing though. I weirdly though, because it still is Silent Hill and there's still some kind of thing I like

Did Pyramid Head again? I I don't remember Pyramid Head in there, but he probably is. It's been a minute since I watched this movie. But there was aspects of things like that where I didn't mind it because I'm like, Oh, I I do like all these things. So like You know, you're still in the fucking foggy, you know, butt flakes and shit. Foggy London. But like I yeah, I'm I'm I'm actually

Tot I'm bummed I missed it in the theater, but I want to go see this new one that just came out. I hear it's really bad but it's dog shit I've heard too. But like I'm like like like like just as bad as whatever that sequel other sequel was. So that's the thing is like I think And it was made by the same director, I believe. Really? Really? Sil yeah, Silent Hill Revolution came out in twenty, twenty or twenty fifteen. No am I wrong? What's the one before that there's one before that, I think.

The Silent Hill twenty twenty six oh two thousand six. Silent Hill Revelation was the second one. Okay. In twenty twelve. Twenty twelve. There's a twenty sixteen one called Fear of Silent Hill. There's a twenty seventeen one called Silent Hill Genesis, which is a T V movie.

Um I think I watched the Genesis one actually. Silent Hill Requiem is two thousand seventeen. They're they they made'em. Weird. Um Silent Hill two oh that's a that says video game. Oh wait, hold on. Is it a m is it a video game or is it a no, it's a movie. No, it's a video game. Sorry. I Silent Hill Return to Silent Hill is the new one. It's twenty twenty six. Okay. And it is um l yes, the same director that did the first one. Interesting.

Yeah. And it doesn't have any of the same actors. Frenchie Papoo. Frenchie Papoo Is he a Frenchman? His name's Christopher Gans. But like I'm like I'm I'm probably pronouncing it wrong, but he's a Frenchman. I have I have friends they my name Gans too and it's um and they're Frenchies. Okay. I also gans or like gangs or I don't know. I don't know how to pronounce Gangs.

And and Robin Avery did the screenplay with who he he worked on Pulp Fiction with Quentin Tarantino. What? He was the co writer in Pulp Fiction. I wouldn't say this movie's really well written as far as dialogue goes. Are you talking about the sea the new one or this one? The the original. Was this a Japanese movie before?'Cause it's got that vibe of like I'll figure out the lines reality. Yeah, exactly. It's got this Samira.

Yeah. Well I mean the Sound Hill they're made b it's made, you know Konami is a Japanese company. Yeah, it is a Japanese story. I mean it was programmed but I'm sure it's Japanese folks that made the game. Yes. For sure. And designed the game. So it's and that's yeah, I mean and again, like Alessa, Sharon, all like they all look Yeah. It's it could be any horror movie from Japan. Yeah, for sure. But it's got also got that has that concept of the same with like Ringu or like

Human anguish and sorrow equals real manifestation. Why are they so scared of uh girls, young girls? All these all these stories have about something about a young girl popping out of something. Oh scary shit. Japan terrifies scares me to death. Japan Japan has weird shit with like, you know, like weird censored things and weird like stuff to have to do with sex and like Yeah. It's a very interesting place'cause like

You could buy like used panties out of a fucking vending machine, but you can't look at a vagina on a video. Yeah. It's You can smell one, a real one on some panties on some claw. God forbid you look at one. Again, I recommend you all watch Tokyo Pop. There's a weird porno scene in that we're like she's like, Why why is what's that? He's like, Oh this it's Japan, we can't show.

Yeah, so weird, right? Like just like o I mean, like whatever. Like I don't know why, so I'm not gonna speak to that, but it is interesting. The like um obscenity laws. No no dick or vulva for you, sir. It was that way in the b in America for a long time. That shit was illegal. start some fucking upside down shake with the way things are happening in in America right now. So yeah, I'll tr all Donald Trump's fucking

Sex and pee pee tapes are all gonna be blurred out eventually. Thank heavens when we can find out. No, it's gonna fucking open up a butthole into hell.

Yeah. That's what's gonna do. Infinite flakes. It's just gonna fucking open up some fucking dark shit. Oh man. We've hardly talked about uh Home Girl from Walking Dead though. Who played who did who did play the uh the cop? Yeah. Well she sh gets up on s on screen the first time and I was like,'Cause I don't think you're supposed to know it's a woman cop, you just see it's a cop cop first. Yeah. On the motorcycle cop. And then she gets off I'm like, Oh

All right. I'm already attracted to I mean only for sex reasons, not for actual like reasons that are I don't I don't love cops. But I love Tama Finland, so I see a lot of hot cops. Hot cuffs. There's a certain hot cop. Especially in tight levels, especially modified. Especially with tall boots. And then when you see it like On this fine ass Glory Holder, like ooh.

It's the next level. Thomas Finland already half chubbed. Yeah. Yeah. So you're like, what? Are those regulation leather pants? Because Jesus Christ, lady. Good Lord. Yeah, who you had to grease yourself up to get into those suckers every day. Seriously like latex. I was like, what the It's Thomas Finland for straight dudes. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. But it's funny because they sell short hair. Like they're really trying to get you that so you're just like, oh

I guess I do like that. Yeah. Okay. If you like that you like to throw a mustache on her. Well kinda though. Yeah. Yeah. But it is funny, no like I was like Whoa, like she's fucking she's I mean I think she's hotter with short hair than she is like she's a beautiful lady. No, she's a beautiful woman, but like in this Yeah. With title of the pants. The outfit was working for her for sure.

There's a homoerotic thing about that beautiful woman. And she's a badass, you know, and stuff. And I'm glad that she comes around because she was pretty shitty to start. Yeah, and then you hear a little bit about st about her story, like she proves protecting kids and these kind of things. Like she's a a good character. Yeah. Well and that and that that also to speak back to that, we were talking about like why did she follow him like

Uh somebody's already done this where they kidnap a kid and threw him down a fucking well at in Silent Hill and she was the one that dealt with it. So she's got some peak T S D that she probably is like, Sees a kid who's maybe in a little bit in the mom's acting weird. Yeah, she's gonna that's gonna dive into it. So you're like, Well maybe I should look to this. She she died, right? Her character died when she fell off that motorcycle?

Well did didn't everybody die? Didn't they just didn't they all fly off a cliff? Like well I they weirdly like they just now live in the upside down. That's the one that's like they're in like that purgatory upside down, but like she Yeah, she has like a head injury and she's in that weird realm with all the other dead people.

I think she's dead. I think that the our main character's dead too because she also has a head injury. They might all be dead. Yeah, I mean w there is like that where you can just say that the upside down this is just like it's yeah, it's limbo or there's no getting out of it because they th they escape Silent Hill.

And they're still in the fog. And Dad can kind of feel them weirdly or feel her. I like I love that bleak ending to it also. I do like that ending too. They're driving away, everything's happening. Mm-hmm.

When they pull in the driveway and it's hella foggy, you're like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Bad news bears. But That's good. I like that. I don't I don't w always want to fucking happy, fucking go lucky. No, I I remember really being sad as like I felt like this movie was delivered. Where did the miss come out?

Is this around the same exact time? When did the mist come out? The mist? Oh I bet it's absolutely Flanagan's making a new mist. It's gonna be a whole different story soon. Leave it alone though. Yeah, leave the mist alone. Don't waste your time. You're being distracted from the dark house every year. Yeah, around the same fucking time. Wow. The mist came out. Yeah.

I like the mist a lot too. Bleak has ending. Two thousands of look. Same look, yeah. Same kind of look. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. CGI that's I think is decent. I like this I like the missed CGI just fine. Me too. Like again, I'm just like it I didn't it didn't at all take me out of it.

The first time I watched it and or the any other time I watched it is like so I mean there's stuff in The Matrix, one of the greatest science fiction movies of all time where the CGI is so much shittier than this. That that's some bogus CGI Bendy Spoon. Get out of here with your Bendy Spoon CGI one oh one. And I love that movie to death. So I I can get looked past the CGI if it somehow serves the Yeah, it doesn't do anything bad too. For me, so then I'm fine with it.

You know. Other times I I'm you know, I've definitely complained about CGI in tons of movies, like for sure. So I get it's easy to complain about yeah,'cause it looks like sh it's it's such a thing that looks like shit so easily, especially with time. Yeah. I don't know why it doesn't it never holds up like a practical effect would. Sure.

No matter like the worst practical effect looks like the shittiest rubber you've ever seen. Still looks somehow cooler or miniature, fucking exploding and it looks like dog shit. But but still better. There's something about like There's r it's rare that someone does a person who's been burned Um,'cause you have to build up onto their body. Yeah. Like so we are when we finally see the main girl and her revenge. Alissa. Yeah. I'm like It looks like

a grown person covered in so much stuff. Because she's thirty years older, right? It's not actually So she's alive in Silent Hill. Yeah. Okay. Like that's the whole thing is like the her she survived, but her anger and Rage. Rage. All those things. But it all it it also pulled in this dark Presence, which is could be the devil, it could be fucking whatever demon you want, whatever. But it attracted this darkness to her. Right.

And through that as I you know, but the thing is weird because like the darkness ends up in Sharon at the end. In Silent Hill. Well like it's sp split somehow'cause there's like the good there's the bad one and that and there's the good one. No, but like so when she's like cut like Like part of part of the well we say Alyssa or whatever it was.

cast out from there right so that she would survive and you know, where so like the but then the the bad part is actually darkness, the demon, right, whatever. But when she's When Alessa, the good Alessa, is being held by her mom when everything's fucking burning in the church and shit's going on, and then the dark Alessa starts crawling up the ladder and is coming towards and she's like, Don't open your eyes, don't open your eyes and she like pops her eyes open.

And like the dark less is like coming to her and like coming at her and then sudden then she's just gone. Yeah, they're like absorbed her. She's absorbed her, right? So she's in

Good Alessa now. But so because she's acting funky after that. She's acting a little odd. Or like she hasn't seen that house maybe before or they're th it's not not no one has to worry about gonna get back to the real world'cause they're stuck in fucking silent hill. Right. So but th but it's if you think like if it's not a real dimension, like why would the darkness stick around in a

in the dead person or in a in a a dream, you know? Well we'll have to see in the sequel, probably we'll have to see in the Return to Silent Hill twenty twenty six. I'm excited for it. I know it's gonna be dog shit, but like it's got a pretty low. I just peeped it on accident and I was like, Ooh, oops. No, I've been hearing nothing but it's dog shit.

You can't wait to see. But like again, I do like I it's so weird. I liked even the second one they made, like I didn't love it, but like it ha because I I guess'cause I have that attachment to the first movie and the game. I'm in. You have me. Resident Evil's kind of a similar thing where like I played a little bit of that stuff, but like really what gets me into that is Mia Jovovich is fucking awesome. Yeah. Sure. And I love how much of a badass she is, and I just love like

aspects of the game and parts of that movie. So like I've turned up for every fucking one of those TV residents. Oh, have you watched them all? Oh wow. I've only watched a a couple. Are they good? I've only seen the first one in it. No, they're not good. Which one's Mike Epps in?

Is that the second one? Oh, I don't remember. That might be a newer one. It might not even be a new one. They seem more like action movies than they're going to be able to do horror movies. They're way more of an action movie. Just happen to be there's some mutantes and some fucking weird shit. But like Which Yeah, I you know, I love that kind of shit.

I'm oh I'm here to be scurred. Yeah. But no it it's they're not like I think Silent Hill is way scarier than any of the Resident Evil movies. I definitely. I would I would think so from what I've seen and and definitely the first movie was not scary at all. This has Elements of of being scary. I remember being in in the theater and that bathroom guy came out and I was just like Oh yeah. This is fucked up. Like this is so fucked up. Like this is terrifying, you know and like

Granted, it was two thousand six. I was a bright young bushy tailed little full head of hair Swo emo swoop. But I was just like it was R Resident Evil Apocalypse, Mike Epps. Okay. What year? Two thousand four. Which which number sequels that I think is number two. That's just number two. I remember he's actually a taxi driver and he goes, I should have stayed in the hood. I was like, my caps. Great riding. Mike Eps.

Great. That's your favorite Friday too? I mean Frida I think Friday one's my favorite, but number two is dope. I love I Here Two is a great button. How do you beat one though? That's wild. Mike Epps is how you beat one. Mike Epps is so good. I rode you that. I'm I'm uh I'm also an ace Ventura too, so I'm like a I like a sequel. Like I like it an ace Ventura too. I like an ace Ventura too.

So maybe Silent Hill two is where we need to go. Oh shit. Which which of Silent Hill two? The Revelation? Revelation? No, I don't want to see any of those. Even though they have a better a better score than the new one. Yeah, I don't know. I'm glad that... Lorraine picked this'cause like I've been wanting to do this movie for a long time. I it needed a reassessment for me for sure. I've been I've been ready to give it a rewatch. I'm just glad it's not technically on me.

So that's cool. This is on Lorraine. Like I'm I'm stoked to see it. I love this movie but I it's off my I was glad to watch it again'cause I there are things of I remember about it that I did love. There are things that I don't love. Like what? I'd love to hear things. Let me think. Um Let me hear the things you hate. I mean, let me think here. I didn't love the nurses are so pointless and they just look like they were at a club.

Is it is it one person? No, that's actually a bunch of models. Yeah or dancers, sorry. They were they felt like dancers. And I was like, they're in the c they're club and um They're popping and locking. It felt like you just put on a club track and just had that

Uncut footage it'd be like a fun it's like the thriller dance. They're doing thriller dances. Yeah. And with the that that they only slice throat I mean I like but they just happened to be close enough they were slashing each other's throats after I like the whole concept of that and it does feel but it does feel like a video game. The parts that feel like video games I don't love. Like the

Mm look at the map, memorize the map. I was like, What are you doing? That is definitely a call to left right left right now. Like it's straight up like, Oh yeah, I I had that code written down. For sure. Exactly. Totally a video game person. But yeah. I did I didn't I like the locations a lot. Um No with bad things. No No no. I'm trying to think of what what I didn't like. Um I love the end. I love Sean Bean. Sorry, I can't think of much I didn't like. I didn't love the cop.

Oh, but also again. Joe Coates is awesome. He's in Waterworld. Waterworld. Sons of Anarchy. Sons of Anarchy. You know what? I guessed he was in Sons of Anarchy. I'm like, that guy's probably gone on to be Sons of Sons of Anarchy. insanely amazing actor in all of Sons of Anarchy. Yep. He d is pretty bad in this movie. Like he's pretty bad. There's a lot of things that I think. He's so much to work with though. I don't blame like any of the actors for

for this at all. You know who I who reminds me it reminds me of like I think his delivery was a little bit weird. I f I feel like it's not his fault. I don't blame him. Like I feel like this the writer's fault. But I also I I don't like his character. I don't understand the character because he should be

Seventy five years old. Right. You're right. I think he might be a Silent Hill apparition. Seventy seventy five to nineteen seventy four to two thousand six is thirty-two years. So if when he was thirty to forty then he'd be fifty If you're twenty something no, if you're a twenty something rookie cop Thirty two years later. thirty to forty so she he's a few years. I thought that's a fucking good comeuppance.

Um I love that all the people didn't know they were fucking dead. None of those people know they're gone. Right. Right. Um Yeah. I like the scene. I really, really like it where She all of sudden like has to go down the elevator and she gets to actual Aless Alessa who's in the the hospital thing.

And she's like telling her story basically. Like I know that that's cheesy to some people, but I really like it. No, I did like it. I like w when she finally gets past the nurses and busts in the door and it's just like bright white. Yeah. And then it's like her with her eyes. It felt like uh I appreciate them filling me in what the fuck is going on. Yeah, that's already like an hour and a half into this. I'm like, what the fuck is even happening? Yeah.

The I I don't love exposition in the same way I don't love it when it happens in all those Japanese movies I had to watch. For myself, same way as I had to watch that County Crows talk venture. I brought it upon myself to be a completist. But I was watching but every time they'd be like, Oh, here's now now we're doing a big flashback. Here's the whole story. Here at the very end of the movie, here's why you care.

Right. And it's hard to care at that point. It's hard not to feel b a barrage of just like basic storytelling. Yep. But totally. When she comes busting through with even when they show the nurse And you never know what happens to the nurse. 'Cause they show her like you show I even heard somebody who was just curious or whatever and like she like was just wanted to take a look at Alessa. Yeah. Now sh now for the rest of her life she's

Fuck that. Bleedy Eyes McGee. Yeah, yeah. She's a mess. But and in Silent Hill. Yeah, she's stuck there, I guess. But even then like I really even though they were doing the film effect, I really like the way that looked too. It's it looks like a killer music video. It looks like a what's the guy who did like Heart shaped box. Early two thousand like

horror movies kinda look like what we kind of think of as music videos anyways, like and a lot of them were I guess were directed by music videos. They were, yeah. Directors and stuff. So that'll make sense. Like that Texas Chainsaw remake, he did some great music videos.

So like that's you know, that there's that I definitely f feel that for sure. Yeah, you could Yeah, they're nailing a lot of the visuals from me, but uh especially even though I was like, Oh, this is definitely CGI when she touches the bed that she's in and like it all becomes like red and bloody and whenever that shit would be Of course it's CGI. It's effective for me still. Yeah. It wasn't just bad. Like I love that like the uh

the mom, Rose. Mm-hmm. Like uh her outfit, it changes from like totally clean and light colored, yeah. Completely red at the very end, dark and fucked up and dirty red. And they had like a ton of of these and they were all slightly shaded differently so that like it's so gradual that you don't necessarily notice it. But when you're at the end you're like, holy shit, like

That's so red, so that's a good character. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's just soaking up blood the whole movie. Right. And that's oh god reminds me of my grandfather with a piece of bread it's on roast beef night. Yeah, dude. Dude, my favorite my my favorite thing when I saw this movie was when Pyramid Head fucking peels that lady. Oh my god. I assume that was the highlight of the movie for everybody. That was like when we were'cause you think she's gonna be a character that lasts right.

Yeah. And the like how he just manifests behind her if the fog like clears and he's just right there and just grabs her. Gloves her whole body. And she's like such a shitty person anyway. She's throwing rocks at the other lady and like so you're just like you're kinda like you kinda deserve this lady. But also it's like That manifestation of Pyramid Head is from Alessa. You're throwing rocks at her mother. Like you're gonna get it. Yeah, you're gonna get it.

I love seeing everyone get it at the end. Of course. I love the Hellraiser Revenge getting it scene. Oh my god. With the Evil Dead scene. The barbed wire. Spread the legs, fucking have the a little girl doing Ring around the rosy in raining blood. Like that I remember that in the theater going like all right. That thank you. Yeah. Delivery. Ding ding ding ding ding. Talk about delivering. Like if you want to see someone getting reined upon with blood and just doing a little dance like

That's something you don't see every day in a movie. A little kid. Yeah, I I mean I I like that actor personally. I think she did a great job of playing the three characters and like uh I think there's a lot of people that can't

differentiate themselves enough to play three characters like that, especially in the same movie. She's ten, you know? So like totally. I saw some behind the scenes stuff for sure her she was just talking and stuff and she's definitely like way more mature for her age than you know, there's like you'd have to be right. Tot yeah, totally. It's even like

Yeah, gauge or or even understand what that even means or what I think she might be Websterina is why. She might have been thirty. Forever young. Yep.

But uh yeah, I I don't know. I this is one of those movies where like it is such comfort food to me. I could I could watch this, the two hours flies by. I'm like I it is uh for me it it is just vibes and it's not I don't have to pay attention because there ain't nothing going on. Yeah. It's just like pretty stuff and creepiness and the music I is dope. And everyone on the screen is fucking gorgeous. I mean you if you chopped up just like the dope stuff.

And like made it five minutes of just like those The crazy scenes with all the pyramid head and all the stuff. Dude, I'd love to see a eighty eight minute cut of this movie. Throw some fucking sick rock track behind it, throw that you know, like it you it'd be the dopest video ever. Just throw on fucking nine ish nails and watch Silent Hill and silent. Seriously. They they sh they shouldn't have just kept it all women. Oh yeah, that would be

Why'd they get so scared? You're fine. They didn't get scared. The fuck well the producers got scared. The studio they were being studio. Oh, we need men in the studio. Where the dudes at? Yeah. Well But you know what's crazy, so like just it's so weird how in synchronicity we are sometimes with things that are happening in the world. But

Siler just sent me an article about how an uncut uh version of this movie was just found. Like uh like the director's cut original cut? Like the original like just none of it cut out, none of the stuff cut out, like whatever, like

Supposedly the the version that we see in the th saw in the theaters and the is this like was basically what the director put out, but it wasn't what like he you know, he c that's what he had to put out'cause like that's what he had to put out, but it was at least like up to his choice to like Edited a certain way to keep it there. I think the original thing would have been about three hours long.

Fuck that dude. Give it to me. Give it to me. But I'm like, you know, I don't know. They didn't definitely didn't film three hours worth of shit, but like. There's probably two and a half hours of shit that we probably it's probably fifteen minutes that we missed, twenty minutes. Dude. I'm I'd for it. I'd watch it to see what's missing. Yeah, I'm curio I'm very curious if they're gonna r ever release that because like

They found it. So like what's gonna happen. If they're talking about finding it, it happens to be the twentieth anniversary this year, like and they're talk if it's if if it's talking about Why would they even find it now? Check it out. Slides a canister over. Slides it right into Netflix or whatever. It's like I know my movie did horrible. How about did it not do well? Did you do horrible in in the like I thought it didn't do that bad, but well the reviews are are are horrible.

Everyone hates it. Really? Everyone hates it. I'm curious. I didn't look last night. the sequel, not this one. This is this is beloved or hated. Okay, that's what I thought. But mostly mostly loved. Yeah. I thought most people like this movie. But it a lot of there's a lot of hate for it to there's a lot of people that really think it's the biggest pile of shit. So I'm not alone. But I think it's mostly loved.

Six and a half. Six point five. That's really high for us. Yeah. It's pretty high. The new one is is rough. It's like four point oh. Yeah. That's right. That's sweet spot. Give me that four point oh.

I'll watch that on my own, Jeff. It's all good. Be with a voice channel. Jeffrey, do you want to see a scary movie? I I've been watching uh the TV show of uh the burb. Have you guys watched any of the things that we've got? Oh, is that uh the Burb show? It's got Ki Kiki Palmer in it. And it's got a picture of Tom Hanks in it. Great. And it's written by the same guy who wrote the Burbs, Dana Olsen. It took me a minute to realize who he was.

And he's in he I I've talked about it before, but he's there's this terrible Judd Nelson movie that he's in. And he's like the mother main character in it. Yeah. And he's it's the only other movie he's really in. Where he plays mostly writer, producer. And he's yeah, it's it's okay. Isn't Colin from uh What We Do in the Shadows in there too? Uh yes. Yeah. He's a major character. There's a lot of funny actors in it. People that I really like. And it's

So far it's decent. But it's but like it's just A B C so it's like corny TV. But it's the burbs. Like there's no reason to like there's nothing in that movie to me that feels so dated that you couldn't just show the burbs and people would be like, This is an awesome movie. How how and how do you stretch it? Oh it's just it's just very different. It has nothing to do with the story of the burbs. I mean it was just title alone. There is really killing people.

old h dilapidated mansion neighbor that might have but it's like a girl that got killed. Is uh is this the Burbs story? Am I there's The Burbs like people disappearing and stuff and then them them seeing things that make them think that they're killing people. So that's kind of the story, like the house is is vacant and then Kiki Palmer is moves in with her husband and their baby to his childhood home, which is across the street. Okay. And she's the only black person on the block.

So like there's really folded in some kind of like racial stuff. It is a comedy. Yeah, it's a good thing. First and foremost. And the Burbs is too. Yeah. Um and it's It's interesting. I I'm liking it. I like Kiki Palmer a lot. So I like all the actors. The original is very much like bordering on horror comedy and like definitely has like a lot of like There's a texture chainsaw reference in it. There's like stuff happening definitely that like I mean uh Courtney

Gaines. Gaines is in it. Isn't there a Feldman in it or a Yeah, Cory. There is a Cory. Yeah, he's in it. And he's gr and he's I really should have said is there a Cory in it? But I I knew which Corey, but I just didn't know if I was thinking of a different movie. Yeah, he's he's fuck that like He was still doing it. He was still he was so awesome then, yeah. Yeah. He's great. I mean that whole cast is fucking nuts. That's a great movie. That movie is I'm not minding the show, but it is not

Doesn't have the magic of an 88-minute The Burbs. Yeah. Written by Dane Olsen, who's actually a great great writer. I like the Burbs. I love the Burbs. Yeah. It's like one of my favorite like comedies like that from back then. Just'cause it has those it's like summer school. It has those horror elements, but it's still hilarious and really anyone could watch it, but it's like so funny.

Did we ever talk about the it series on on the show? Welcome to Dairy. Yeah, we're not going to be able to do that. Right. Now I've watched it now. Yeah, we hadn't we didn't. Cried my fucking eyes out. You like it? That's great. Yeah. I really I had a good time. It wasn't like amazing, but I'd love it.

Watching it. I enjoy a lot of fun. I enjoy my time. And I and again that that fucking kid uh I'm for uh it's been a minute since I've watched it now, but um the girl? Richie? Oh Richie, oh yeah. Richie the the younger, like kind of um Latino kid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh he was like the drummer. I wanna call him like a little greaser killer, but I don't think he was a greaser, but he just kinda had that vibe. Yeah, he was just a little rocker. Little drummer dude. Yeah. Yeah.

When his ass died, it broke me. Oh yeah. It broke me. He was the best. He was every minute he was on phone screen, he stole it. Hundred percent. Yeah. There's a lot of great kid actors in that movie. I the one main the main girl, I like her.

About seventy five percent of the time. And then when her mouth's half open and her tongues fill in the rest of it, I'm like, close it. Clap it shut. I thought she was great. I didn't know. She was mostly very good. I think Pennywise was better in the show than he was in the fucking yeah. I think somehow scarier. Yeah. Terrifying. Way more scenes and he had he was definitely freakier. I definitely like when he was fucking uh fully dunked.

Yeah. And when he fucking when he's g corners are in the fucking end of that sewer, but there's the fucking talisman in the in the water stuck and he just freezes, you're like Oh my fucking god. Frozen pennywise is even scarier than when he's moving. Yeah. Fuck me. Doesn't he freeze again out on that like field or something? It's fucking pretty great.

Guy. The pickle jar guy. So wait a minute, are they going back farther for the next time?'Cause they can't go that that was thirty years before the eighties. They're going back farther. So they gotta go back another twenty seven years. Yeah. Yep. And then they're gonna go back again. They're gonna go back to like predator times are gonna do like a Native American one. Like even though they kinda touched on that a little bit, but I think they're gonna do like

I love it. Full on yeah. I love it. I'm putting well for it the next time he won't be a clown. He he I mean they they said in the end of this that he doesn't you know, see time like we do. He's it's all right, right, right. It's all funny for him. So he's gonna he could still be a pennywise clown in the earlier versions too. Okay, fuck, that's a good loophole. Give it to me.

Native American like seeing a fucking clown for the first time being like what's that? That's the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. You know. And then the see and then see a another white man and just think it's another clown be like, Oh no, it's a pl a less funny looking clown. Yeah.

They I think they they did a good job, man. Yeah, it was I was surprised'cause I kinda I you guys heard me. I talked about I was kinda putting it off'cause I thought it wasn't gonna be good. It is odd that Dick Halloran is in it. I love his character. I like it. I like what they did. Yeah, he's a good actor. I like the aspect of having him in there to like help him with shit. Like you didn't mention anything about this at the fucking hotel before you ate it. True. That's that that's a

That's a weird thing. They had other things to deal with at the hotel. What do you think happened? I want to see a Dick Halloran series. What happened between nineteen fifties? And nineteen. We were kind of talking about the fact'cause like this actor did it so well that could easily make this like the port like what happened before the shining that we know. Yeah. Yeah. Keep'em going, yeah. Yeah. Him dealing with just fucking shit in that hotel would be terrifying. And please t take me with him.

To when he buys that poster that's on his wall in the shiny. I want to know where to find it. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Give me where does he take that to the freezer? Good God. Yeah, I'll put that just as an Easter egg for everybody. Like, oh

P run rolling poster, ooh, comes in the mail. I don't care. However, I just want to know how he got it. The origin story of that. Yeah. He had a commission, dude. He'd fucking paint it himself. He painted himself all. That would be so sick. He just happened to be like painting it. Yeah. Yeah he's like some chick just like a big old fro just posing. Dude, as a painter in life. Do imagine man. Do it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean I wanna see me fucking around in Miami where the fuck he was living there and just like'cause he had like I saw he had a cool little bar set up in in the background. I'm like That dude's throwing parties there. Like I show me. Yeah, here we go. Sixties and seventies.

Right. It'd be so sick. Yeah, I mean th there's that there's that chunk of time that we miss between it doesn't even have to be like horror. It could just be like I'm psychic and I have these abilities. And I'm fucking around. Here's some days. Here's how I use this to my advantage. So that's what we need. Dick Halloran, the fucking And fucking Giuseppe Officer Winston fucking like The party. The party guy. The party party cop. Dude coming through. Party cop

Give me those shows. Give me the party years. Seriously. Yeah, season one is Dick Hallard. Season two is Giuseppe. Yeah. Just the party years of all these rad characters. Fuck yeah. Fuck it A. Let's just do and then we'll well may maybe that's what we're gonna see in the next 28 years, but let's do Chilean Murphy, the party years. The party years 28 years later. Like twenty-two years later. Fucking hey, man. Uh yeah, sign me up. That sounds great. I'll watch that.

Folks, if you haven't seen that it series, check it out. It's like everyone watched that pretty hard. I think so. It seemed like it did pretty well. Yeah. Yeah, if you if you slept on it then Uh you I mean it obviously doesn't mean much to you'cause it it's uh such a big deal. It's better than the second half. I you know, I agreed. It's funny that like how hard I hated when I saw the initial design of that clown. Right. I remember. And I know. You put your your nuts on the line. I did. Yeah.

Yeah, I think you might owe someone sexual favors. I'm gonna go ahead and say I remember being mean. I distinctly remember it was my week. Turn the camera off, Jeff. Zoom in, Jeff. I want to re-watch this. No, but like I just trip out like I watch it now because I'm like, I love this. I love it so much. I love the look. I love that actor. I love this whole fucking thing. Again, we came around real hard on this. I prefer Scars Guards.

Pennywise to Tim Curry's. Owns the records I own every record, I owe the seven inches. I own the compact disc versions. I've watched every fucking movie. It's true. I and I love Tim Curry's Pennywise, but Who doesn't? It's great. And it was it was what it was the whole time. And I was like, they're never gonna be able to top it. But Skarsgard did it, man. He fucking kicked ass. I think and I think part of it too is cause he's able to do so much acting with his face.

And he embodies that fucking character so well and so terrifyingly Realistically that I'm just like I'm in. I fucking does some shit like I who else can m move their eyes in a weird way like that. Who can the fucking do that? But he can look like Pennywise. I mean, we see him. He's doing the Pennywise shit without the makeup, which I love that we

You get all that stuff. It's terrifying. It's crazy that he can do it. And th like the story of how he like is always something me and my brothers used to do. Yeah. Like I can yeah, we can do this lip thing, so and I can do this thing with my eyes. And he just does you like Huh. Yeah. That's as scary as the with the makeup. I know, right? Uh frozen. Um what did you guys think of the the like his daughter?

Dressing up. I like I liked it. I I liked I liked her old wearing the makeup too. Uh especially I thought she looked pretty pretty fucking freaky. Totally. Uh I I was into it, man. Yeah. Yeah. I like that whole storyline is cool. I like again I like seeing him out of the Pennywise makeup, but yeah. Yeah. I mean I think that they were like we can't

go from no bulbous head to giant bulbous heads. We've already shown'em with a bulbous head in the movies. Yeah, we do see'em in the movies like that, so without the makeup. So

And I I didn't mind it. It's it is a funny head. But it's a s he's a sad ass clown though when he's Oh, he's just drinking himself. Yeah. That's a bad that's a bad clown. And then he wasn't a bad guy. Yeah. Oh, but I love that too with Halloran tricking Pennywise where Pennywise finally realizes like what the fuck's happening and was like Right.

Pretty good show. Pretty good show. Good show, yeah. Great job. I'm surprised they yeah, they made me like like all these kid characters too. Like I didn't I wasn't expecting to. I hope that that kid goes on to some fucking greatness. Like I hope they all do. Dude, he's got charm for days. How could he not? Just dripping of fucking charm. All the kids. Yeah. But that kid in particular, like I he was just like

Even like the behind the scenes stuff, you see him just oh just a charmer dude. Yeah. Yeah. There's no doubt that he's gonna be a star. There's no doubt. Like that's great. Yeah. But anyways, good cast, yeah. I thought I liked pretty much all the kids, I thought they all did a really good job.

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