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Ep -363: 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple.

Jan 30, 20261 hr 11 min
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Summary

The hosts dive into "The Bone Temple," highlighting director Nia DaCosta's refreshing approach to the 28 Years Later universe, including a more meditative pace and a focus on human threats. They humorously debate character actions, the film's gore, and its box office performance, alongside speculating on upcoming horror trailers like Scream 7 and The Bride. The episode also features nostalgic discussions about Empire Records and the Silent Hill franchise.

Episode description

In this week's episode, The FM3 Hit the theater to check out the Nia DaCosta directed second part of the new 28 Years Later trilogy "The Bone Temple"! After loving the first installment Jef, Josh and Brian had high hopes for this one and it did not disappoint. Brian even got MORE giant infected zombie dong so you know he was hyped. If you get a chance head out and support this one in theaters while it's still playing. The FM3 give it the old Samson Salute! (Which is just the three of them standing in a field naked tripping balls staring at the moon). So you know it's good! Enjoy!

Transcript

Initial Film Reactions and Samson's Dong

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Of course you're number one, Bry. You're red, Bry. Number one. Red Rocket. Red Rocket. Red Rocket, Red Rocket, show Samson your socket. God no. You don't want to know what he's gonna do with that socket. Your socket evaded by that. Where does it have?

Samson's Evolution and Tone Shift

I lo yeah, oh yeah. And you were worried that there wouldn't be enough dong. Well there was this short period. I definitely was led to believe it was a longer period that he was Uh not showing dong, but I I got enough dong. I got I got a I got enough dong for for me. It didn't look as swole. As it did in the first movie. He's he's relaxing. Yeah. He was just throbbing with rage. Yeah. It was ignored before. It was it was doing push ups for sure. It looked rough.

In this movie. Oh yeah. Is that the moral of the story? Yeah. Softer side of your cock. Samson's softer side. Bone Temple. That is yeah, no bone in Bone Temple at all. Less bone, in fact. Trying to predict the future is a discouraging and hazardous occupation. In fact, It may not even exist at all. Oh Can I see? Many of the things we take for granted. Will one day pass away completely. I open the When that time comes, men will no longer communicate. We may have disease. And barbarism.

美好玩啊 will cease to make any sense. Yeah. Look at the incredible changes. We've experienced it. And survive. And yet even greater changes. are still the cow. Are you ready?

Nia DaCosta's Vision and Human Threats

I was embarrassed to even say bone temple when I was ordering three for bone temple. There's like a 13-year-old girl working, and I'm like, Bone twenty eight days later, please. Twenty eight years uh months, uh something. God. Twenty bones. Twenty eight years older than you Seriously. Fuck. That's him. Yeah, okay. We're we're here we're here nice and late for this one. It's been out a while. It's it's not doing the numbers anyone was expecting.

Man. I don't know why. God. Is it ever violent? Is it ever a crowd pleaser? If you are a fan of this universe, it is uh you're just steeping in it. It's I mean, I th I might like this one better than the last one. The like the prequel to this. I I mean I the the prequel to this I mean the first half of this movie. Yeah. Twenty eight years later. Right. My favorite of the the series. Yeah. For sure.

And this this is equally as good in my opinion, if not better. Just'cause there's like a a strange factor to this one that I really enjoy and some kind of silly, goofy shit that I've but But it's it's different. It's it's it's not at all what I was expecting from any of these movies. You know the twenty eight days, years, months, any of these.

It's fucking different. It's just it's its own fucking weird thing, dude. It's own beast. Yeah, it is. I I dig it though. I was thoroughly entertained. It was uh Nia De Costa directed. Badass. She's great. I love her Candyman so much. Right. Mm-hmm. I mean yeah and stoked that she's behind the wheel on this one. And I did read that she was like, I want to do something like more

Different, but still in the vein of it, but just kind of more architecture. Samson vein, but like a big thick, weird vein. A strange vein. I like I mean, I feel like the same with Candyman where it's like it's exactly what you want. But it's also like Relaxed. Like Candyman's chill. And kind of strange. It's strange and it's relaxed and it lets you sit in the fucking world. It gives you the stuff you want.

but it gives it to you in like a paced, like meditative way. Like that like this is like I'm just get to chill out. Rarely Are you scared of the infected in this movie? Right. You're definitely more scared of the Jimmies in this movie. Yeah. The jimmies are the threat. The people are the threat. And I don't love that about zombie movies either. That's what's going on. That's always the truth. But it's also true. It's very true. I mean, they're both fucking threatening.

Zombies are just trying to eat. That they don't have any other motive. Right. You know. And then the humans are always Yeah. They're scheming. Schemin' scheming. Yeah, they got the same amount of rage, but they they hide it and they they're cruel.

Samson's Drug-Induced Shenanigans

At least the fucking infected are just running down a hill screaming at you. Right. You're predictable. Samson's a special animal. Uh I love it. Yeah, I love the alphas. I do w I wanted more alphas running and screaming at. I wanna talk to Samson. 'Cause that part the first movie, God, I love those scenes where it's just running after and you just hear the thudding of his feet on the ground. Oh my god. So fucking scary and the moonlights like But this we get him dancing.

We get him dancing, we get slow dancing. We see him tripping out, tripping balls. Dude, let's give the fucking zombies some drugs. Tripping the biggest balls in the fucking afterworld. Twenty eight balls later. Yeah. I want that vibe. Yeah, that looks like a good vibe. Like just like fuck I just wanna Zone the fuck out.

Yeah, look at let me look at your little your plans you're writing for those pills. What exactly is a combo again? I really hope that's re replicable f so that we can, you know, get all the zombies to fucking turn. Mm. Yeah, straight up me. Samson. Everyone's just fucking Dick out, chilled out. That's that's the weird after like the weird side effect. Full varicose body but no veins in your dick now. They've all exploded out your back. Yeah, man, he is hugging veiny.

Yeah, if your blood's running that fucking enraged. You know like He seems like he's given the hardest poop at all times. It's like strike That's what happens. Yeah It's just it's just poop. Don't push it rock back. You wouldn't know because of the big cheeks but Yeah. He's got a trunk butt for two. He's pushing all the way out. So years and years ago

Zombie Lore, Samson's Handler, and Humor

when I was loving zombie movies and I was not tired of them yet. That must have been forever ago. It was so long ago, guys. It was yeah, this is pre watching. Twenty years later too? Yeah, exactly years earlier. So and I remember Like reading Max Brooks' Zombie Survival Guide and loving loving it to death. It's such a great book. Did you read it, Jeff? No, I didn't. It's such a w enjoyable book and it's got this part at the end that is like just the history of accounted zombie encounters.

And it's like and they're traditional zombian kinds, they're slow. Like Romero. And that fascinates me to death. And it's so clinical. Like it's like ev they're all slow, they're all like pr matter of fact uh throughout history. It's fascinating. Yeah. Not to mention the whole book's fascinating. And World War Z I think is the same way. It's slow. Yeah. It's slow going. And I thought and I've said it into a microphone before, I would love to just follow

like a bub around all day. Just give me f him and just show follow him around all day. People run from him, they're they're faster than him. He just kinda bumps around. Thinks about stuff. Yeah, but that's the thing that he's even slower'cause he's like getting these little thoughts in his brain. Yeah. That's what Samson too. You see him start like

Looking at fucking butterflies and leaves blowing and shit. He's just like the m the moon. Just pondering the moon for so long and having flashbacks. Delivers that to me. It does. You follow a fucking zombie around all day. Yeah. And he's just chilling. Yeah. After his fucking his fucking bag man hooks him up. Seriously.

It's r right, th the one prior to this, right? That like tranquilized. Yeah, yeah, we see that.'Cause we do see that they have some kind of a relationship. Yeah. Like he's named him, he's like has a way to keep him like docile and like Pulling arrows out of him and shit when he's like all fucked up. So he and Samson is like it's a morphine that he's getting shot with. And he just loves those moments where he's not enraged. So he's like he keeps coming back and be like, I'm not gonna kill you.

Give me some of that good good. Yeah, yeah. When you realize that that's what he's like doing, he's like seriously just like stoked. Like fucking Yeah, come on, man. Yeah, I was I was really worried for him. I was like, ah when he runs out, what the fuck's gonna happen then? He's gonna be ultra pissed. He can't get can't get the goods. Uber rage. He's gonna be Jonesing And okay. Bonesing. You do not want to be in his path.

When he's looking for the fucking Krizak. Yeah. He's chasing the white horse too. It's not good. Yeah. Chasing that dragon. Yeah. Dragging his dong on the ground. It just gets super long when he's fucking the more enraged he gets. Yeah, it is weird though and it's but it's I dig it, man. I really do. I think it's like I I like the because at first I mean it's all laughable. It's fucking hilarious when we first show them sitting next to each other just both fucking tripped out.

Yeah, we were we were laughing totally thoroughly in the theater. And then dancing and him singing to her and like even him just listening to fucking Duran Duran and like dancing and shit. I'm like, this is fucking awesome. Like but also almost like God damn I'm old because I would also be dancing to fucking Durand Duran. But think of it. Ray Fines is like he's older than us. He probably was in his early twenties when Duran Duran was hitting. So you know he's like

It p it tracks. Over time, an Englishman is going to love Duran Duran no matter what. I know it's weird to think about like a grandfather Listening to Duran Duran. I'm gonna be a grandfather listening to Durand Duran. I I had my friend just went to see Duran Duran in Sacramento. He was the young guy there. My age. It's so funny though, but a lot of bands are like that. You go see him play and you're like, oh but also the band members are eighty. Mm-hmm. Cool. Young bucks up there on stage.

Samson's Backstory and Brutality

So okay. Was Samson a kid when this happened? Yes. He was the kid in the in the train. That's what he showed. He was looking at the moon. Right. Right. Right. The moon book. But then it shows him for a second, as an adult, is a current age. Sans hair. Yeah, current age. And be like I know I'll take it right before he gets foot like. Yeah, he was tripping. He was tripping out. And but the d other zombies, the other infected, uh, they could smell that he was thinking?

Or I like I think it was that he said something he said they were all creeping like going up to him and I think he said something in English. He said, I don't I don't know I don't know where my ticket is. I don't have a ticket. And they were like, Oh shit Yeah. Like so like that that that they know enough that like if you're speaking then that's fucking I guess so. I mean we I mean whatever those drugs He gave'em to help with the infection, maybe

Change changed the scent of him and the out of the vibe. It's a vibe checker. Yeah. fucking chasing a a person. A normal yeah, a normal person, yeah. And then you for a flash you see that they look it like even more gruesome than the infected. Right. Like they look like a full on zombie nightmare. Right. 'Cause and I I didn't really ever think that or like that's a cool thing'cause like

To know to know that they are seeing some wild shit, which is like a psychosis of them being violent and crazy, which is why they would kill kids or babies and shit like that,'cause that baby looks terrifying to them. Right. But man, that's wild'cause like you always just think like they're just hungry. And don't they don't care. They rarely even like eat. Like I mean I remember s all these movies,'cause I'm a fan of twenty eight days later, not so much twenty eight weeks later.

They should have made it twenty eight months, but they didn't but the uh but they'd never you don't really see them eating eating. You see them destroying. Right. Or just a bite and then you're fucking then you're now infected.

But like this one I mean we fully see Samson fucking just challenging. Yeah. Yeah. He's just scooping brains out. And I was like, Oh, is it like the more brains you eat, the smarter you get? Like not you know,'cause we hadn't got there yet. But I knew that he was somehow changing in this movie, so I was like

Is he did a full on Peter Jackson cereal bowl on this one? Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah. They gave they gave us everything and the head with the spine again, which I think they did in the last movie, but like I can never get enough of that. That's brutal. Like it's so gnarly. Just like I'm gonna tear everything out.

Nudity, Violence, and 'Bone Temple' Meaning

So is that actor really that muscular too? Is he just like that? He's yeah, he's pretty fucking beefy. Yeah. God damn. Yeah. But also extremely handsome when he's all shaven and when he's I mean, I like I prefer him with the beard and the I'm sure a lot of people do. You know. I was just watching him like walk around like a a red carpet thing for like the premiere of Bone Temple and like get his pants off. No, I was kidding. But but like tuxedo on top though. But he's just walking around like

I'm like, yeah, this motherfucker like you you get to strut. You you're running fucking hanging the giant dong, which is probably actually his, right? No, no, I feel like it's a prosthetic. Oh, that's such a disservice to me. It's real.

I you know, I pr he probably has to tuck his massive dong into sleeve the tiny one that's on the front. Yeah, okay, good. Thank you. I feel like it's just those are like tights. It's not like a real prosthetic. It's just like wearing tights over your legs. I just kind of feel like you don't wanna Like even if it He's six foot eight, it very well could be his actual fucking yeah, baseball bat. So yeah, for sure. But I mean like

You gotta think about the actors around you. You have to think about the crew. Yeah, but like I I mean, does they want a lot of nakedness in this movie and uh more in the last one. And I was just seeing him strut on the red carpet. Knowing he's got a giant member. I feel like it's so it's so out there and in front. Those nards are fucking poking, dude. They're huge. The nards are in front of the Frank? Yeah. Exactly. The whole thing there, they're they're bouncing the Frank around.

It's not the only dick. We saw what's his name, Ray Fine's dick. We saw his his dang English actors are gonna show their dick. Smaller. But yeah, it's still a Ray Fine. It's like proportion to the man. I'm saying it's smaller than the infected Samson. Well of course everything is the only thing is did what about like did we see Killian Murphy's dick in the first movie? I think we did. I think we do. I think we did.

It's a tradition. I just watched it. I watched it recently. I think it's tradition. I think I do think, yeah. I think you see his Murphy. Yep. Yeah. So I feel like And it's normal size. I think English actors are just gonna show their dick more often. Yeah, because why not? I see I mean I remember seeing fucking Ewan McGregor's dick th the first time I saw Ewan McGregor. Yeah.

Is that uh did Danny Boyle direct the first twenty and train spotting? Yeah. He likes to see that dick. Yeah. But I I s I I support it. Oh, I'm fully for it. Four hogs in the front, please. To the front of the line. Yeah. We saw a lot of wieners in this one. Yeah. It's called the Bone Temple for a reason, but you get to see the bones.

Oh, it's really violent this movie. It's like it brings it it's gruesome. That fucking to skinning the whole that whole crew scene was that whole ball. Jimmy's Jimmy Out. I definitely was getting like very like Uneasy just with those folks. That's brutal. You know? Like they're all nuts. His ass is fucking crazier than a shit house rat. Yeah. Talking to himself and like but also he knows he's bullshitting everybody. Yeah.

Wasn't that something too? Like I remember when we reviewed the last movie, it wasn't that long ago. It was just a few months ago, it feels like. We were like, Gimme a fucking Jimmie's movie, why not? And they did. And they were like They heard you. Yeah. I want more dongs. I want more Jimmies. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. Probably no more. No more Jimmies though.

Jimmy suck. I'm done with Jimmy's name. Turns out Jimmy suck. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely like as a as a rule, the the reason the Jimmy's definitely sucked. Yeah, the origin of Jimmy is the absolute worst. Yeah. And the expounding upon it in this way is somehow Not as bad, but pretty bad. Yeah. I'm glad that they didn't try to like sorry. No, no, you didn't. I'm just glad they didn't lean into the whole Jimmy Seville thing. Mm-hmm. That's right.

Dr. Ian's Vulnerability and Charm

Yeah. But I mean they're they're definitely villains either way. There's a sweet I love the moment of him meeting the um Ian, Dr. Ian. Yeah. And they just he just chats and just like kinda gets everything off his chest and like he's just fully real for like the first time. in probably years, you know, decades for that guy. Yeah, yeah. But just he's so disarmed by

the character everyone thought was gonna be the biggest maniac of the both movies. Right. And is the most normal and down to earth out of all of them, but he's has some crazy shrine, you know. Right. Yeah, he's he's like, Okay, well this shit's going down. I got ways that I'm not going to get infected and also a lot of us have died. Let's honor the dead. That's really his whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. He's a smart dude. It's it's just like it's just a interesting

flip to to you know you don't usually see a villain just kind of being vulnerable for a minute like that, you know? Yeah. Real interesting almost feel for him for a second, you know.'Cause he's like finally being real and like, Oh, I I get it. Yeah, I feel I feel you dog like Yeah, you this is your mo you could be this guy and be just fine. You don't have to be that shithead, then you turns it back in and he's like, Well, we're in a little bit of a pickle here, bud.

Don't you think that that actor has got that about him where he is in centers he does a kind of a similar thing. You feel for him a a lot of the time because he plays the that vampire and then he's like you realize, oh, he's sure he's a bad guy. But He's got a charm too. Yeah, he's got charm and he's got a reason, right? Yeah, he's got reasons. Yeah. Valid reasons to be a villain, right? He's just good at being human and also a fucking monster. Like he's a great actor.

And like, yeah, I mean I it's hard to believe that he's the same dude as the dude from Cine. I don't see you didn't put that together until you just said it right now. We talked about it. We talked about it briefly for from the last one, but like that's a good thing.

Barn Scene Brutality and Rage Shrooms

I was tripping out. I was hypnotized by that big fucking c clapper. Click clock. Click clock. What? Keeping time. Yeah. Yep. I'm feeling s very sleepy. I'm not. You got your bone templed. And that brutal fucking scene when they first When you sh so show the kid from the last movie, right where he left off, like picked up by the Jimmies and they're gonna

make'em fight to the death. Y you had to choose one of the jimmies to fight. That was incredible. I was feeling so I mean, I know he was gonna be fine, but still I felt like so much nervousness for him. But then the way he fucking Got out of it how he won. Yeah, too. She pants the guy. Pants him and fucking stabbed his artery. Right. I don't think he even really meant to, but it was just so much blood splattering every day. That was brutal. Like that was so fucking real. Yeah, yeah.

When he's like that's real. At first he's just mad. He's like, Motherfucker, I'm gonna kill you with your own knife. And then he pulls his hand away and it's like a fountain. And I was like, Oh, yeah. He pulls the knife out like Oops. I was like so oh Yeah, it was brutal. But it looked man, they did insane job though making that like when he's laying there and you see the whole kind of like

Fizzling the last bit of blood. It looks fucking so goddamn real. Yeah, it looks it looks incredible. The actors who played the Jimmies are all so fucking weird. Like they got rid of the weirdest one. The guy with the low eye. Well he wasn't he was there till pretty pretty far. He was the guy that got set on fire, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So pretty pretty pretty far. Yeah. Halfway through. Yeah. Then those two guys that die that die immediately, the guy that Spike replaces and then that low eye. Right. But then also the girl Sorry, I don't have a name for him, but but J Jimmy. Jim Jimima Low I Jimmy. Oh yeah. But Jamima Jimima Jimmy. Yeah, like she's fucking crazy and like I loved like she seemed like she was Weak as fuck and like was so.

And like she's so small and frail looking and then just fucking hands that dude. Yeah. Oh my god. But that was yeah, that was like that whole scene was cr that barn scene was brutal. Yeah. It was nuts. I mean, yeah, when you just see for a flash that all three of those people who were skinned are on fire. Yeah. Like you see for a flash. Yeah. But I'm like, that's better than them sitting there still alive, fully fucking skinned. Like But man, like

Take their shirts off. I was like, what does that mean? Oh no bad. Oh no. Oh you mean all the skin off their torsos. Right. Oh. And she wasn't gonna do that to the pants and them, what? What now? Take his trousers off. Yeah. No. What does that mean? No, I don't want to know what that means.

Well it was weird'cause she w got on top of him with like no knife and it seemed like almost like she was gonna like had some weird like sexual like thing where she was like gonna kiss on him or something while she's like talking about taking his fucking skin off. Mm-hmm. But then she got the fucking hook. She got that was good. She's on Where's my kitty? Jesus Christ. Yeah. But I mean uh you know, people got soft skulls in the future.

And or real quiet ropes,'cause I you didn't hear that coming at all. Yeah. What was the the the that initial scene where there's uh the family, the pregnant lady, the guy, and I'm assuming like the kind of father figure Yeah, the old guy and the yeah, there's a bunch of people. From that village that Jimmy took over. But like it's always the same thing where it's like

Like the guy tries to do something to like eliminate the thing and then it steps on a stick and then like totally ruins the whole situation and like causes so much fucking chaos. Are you talking about the guys when they're in the woods? Yeah. The three foraging for mushrooms. No mushrooms worth it. It fools? No. And I'm like, I'll do some cars. Maybe those mushrooms would be kind of funky after the rage virus is like everywhere. Rage shrooms.

Unpredictable Plot and Cult Psychology

But yeah, that's a thing. I love seeing a guy turn. You haven't seen a guy turn in a while. Yeah. I don't rarely remember a guy turning in the last one, but I'm sure it happened. Yeah, I'm sure it happens. And it happens fast. That's what's so crazy about it. That like that turn is so fucking But yeah, it happened it happened a couple of times in the last one. I really expect'em to go back to um

Spikes home and they never did. Yeah, they're right there. I thought so too. Like why wouldn't they just go back out there? I I kinda like that the movie didn't do anything I was really expecting. Other I mean other than having a lot of the Jimmies being maniacs. Right. But like everything else is kinda like, oh, they didn't actually

Do that what I thought they were. Yeah. Didn't they like Spike's dad is there? Did his dad live? I thought his family I don't remember. I thought it I thought his whole family died. Well his mom was definitely'cause there's skulls on the in the temple. Yeah. But I don't remember them dying. I think they stopped Samson before he got there.

And then he the kid went out b went back out on his own. Right. And that's when yeah to help his mom'cause his mom he brought his mom out. Yeah, he brought his mom out. Everyone else is back. Everyone else is safe and secure. Why wouldn't they be? I thought'cause I thought he went trying to save His son. He went out I thought

Why can't I remember that? No, I don't remember it either. I kind of remember what happened. He ended up in Jimmy's hands before he ever got home again. Right. Like he got side up like he got caught in that weird like Like there was like a street, like a or like a weird windy road and it had a like a weird dead end thing and like he got stuck and there was a infected coming.

What was he doing out there? I think it'cause he left after his mom died, he like was just like on walkabout. He was all bummed out and he fucking walked about'cause remember the dude The counselor or whatever they call him, the doctor. Yeah. Like clean her bones, put her on the the whole bone temple and then like send him on his way. But yeah, I don't know why I thought

I feel like that whole like compound with the fucking tide, you know, the walk of the crazy causeway. Yeah. Is still there. Yeah, well why wouldn't he take his new girlfriend there? Why were they why were they why are they walk out to fucking Killian Murphy instead? Why don't go home? It's a it's less than a day's walk to get to the bone temple from his job. She's a badass chick, she'll protect you the whole time. You can get there No problems. No problems. Yeah.

I don't know. I think it just doesn't know how to get back. I don't know. He must he we're he they're at the bone temple. He got there and back before that's true. A couple of times. Uhhuh. Yeah. I mean I understand him not wanting to take the Jimmies there. Yeah, oh yeah, no doubt. Oh no doubt. No doubt. But now that they're not jimmies. Yeah. She's a very freaky girl, the kind you don't bring home to papa. I li I like that actor though, uh from solo and stuff. Her name's Kelly

Character Kelly? She's the like the bounty hunter that's like the lead and that she takes her helmet off and she's a woman and like the whole time you think she's a dude. Right, right. Um Yeah, she's great. I I really fucking dig her yeah, Enfish Nest is the the name of her and solo.

But uh I've seen her in a handful of things'cause she's been in stuff a lot more lately and I'd fucking I'd dig her so much. Like Oh, show me a picture of her because I don't really I don't remember what I don't know if I've seen her anything else. She was in Green Knight. Okay, yeah. Sh I remember from Green Knight. She's fucking awesome. Yeah. Totally awesome. And and she was in She's great in this. I loved her in this. Totally. Yeah.

No, she's she's she's really cool. I and like I'm glad that she happened to be the the you know, the voice of reason something'cause I You kinda th all th you think that all these Jimmies are fucking just batshit and there's no turning back, you know? Like you're like all these guys have to die. I'm just surprised n no one's turned on'em sooner if that's how they he keeps getting fingers, you know? Yeah.

Totally right. Because like you're gonna get people who don't want to fucking be there, like that chick and and spike. It's one of those things watching this too, and like Is that his name too? I I feel like that's not his name. No, that's his name. Yeah. That is what they call the phone. Yeah. It's kind of like are you making up a name this time? I couldn't remember that. It is kinda silly. Call call me Spike. No, I don't want to call you Spike. Can I not call Spike?

Yeah. Yeah, you everyone gets i their own punk name if in the punk name. It's punk rock times.

UFO Cults and Villainous Blunders

But um no, it's just wild thinking about like just how I mean and I guess society nowadays reflects it too, but just like cult like cult culture. Like people Getting into cults and believing all the bullshit and and having just need fucking purpose, man. They need to feel like they have purpose and they're special. That's the other part. Right, right. That's the other thing. It's an ego boost. Like I'm special, I know something you don't. Right. I'm a part of a thing that you're not.

I'm chosen. I'm a chosen one, yeah. Yeah. But it's just so wild that like people just believe like whatever th some other fucking chuckle fuck who just happens to like have enough charisma and or balls to confidence to be the fucking leader. They'll believe whatever the fuck he says. It's just crazy to me. Just like like hearing him spell shit like as much as I fucking dig all the symbolism of Satan and all that shit, like

It made me be like, ew. Maybe I'm not into that all that shit. Yeah, you're making it yucky. The jimmies are definitely making it yuckier for me. Jimmy the yucks. I you know, there are twenty-five in this area that you've never heard of. Totally. And I recently this a woman Cast President and Future. A woman gave me her tape collection recently, her old tape collection.

And a woman I know, and I she's older, she's like seventy five, seventy something like that. And she gave me these tapes, and in the tapes were these Tapes that she had a a few of them and they were like these seminars By this man, and I played them. It's a fucking UFO cult. Oh shit. That she was involved with in the nineties. And not Heaven's Gate.

Not Heaven's Gate. Another one. Never heard of. Yeah. Well no, I looked it up and it's still going. I don't really remember what it's called. I I have the tapes I could make reference to that. They haven't uh ascended yet. Yeah, they're still waiting. They've been waiting for a long fucking time. Hell's fence or something. Exactly. It's there, but it's all AI like You're tripping, dude. Everyone got it.

Do I know? And I'd never heard of it ever before in my life. Yeah. But people were given this fool money for years. That's the thing. I'm like, how do I start one? Yeah. Exactly. I'm gonna get paid. Yeah. Paid and laid. I know, right? Firstly. I want three, four, and five wives. I got fucking I got five letters for you. To loom. Go to Mexico first. Then you go get them linens. Get a full white linen outfit, big hat. Yeah, big hat. Grow the beard long. Start

Dicking around drugs with these yoga chips. You always need lots of drugs to supply them with. When I was in Tulum. Make them docile. Make them uh susceptible to influence. I went to Tulum and I was like and it was with Nick A. Garrick and we were talking about where do you get them fucking where's a cult leader fucking supplies shop? Where do I get the linens and the hat? Because we found a place called

Fucking I'm trying to look like Dr. Moreau up in this motherfucker. This got like Scorpion Charlie's and this dude named Charlie, who's this old dude from California, moved to Mexico, started the cult, no doubt, and he you drink tequila with the. Scorpion poison in it and you get lit up. Holy shit. Because they had that scorpion poison call. Where do I fucking sign up? I th this beard is white now. Let's get it on. Yeah, you it's the wisdom is what I'm saying. He says wisdom.

I know things. Drink this beer. Drink this fucking scorpion piss I mean I thought like when he blew that shit in their in their faces. I thought that was like st like like a z like the zombie drug. Yeah the dust. Yeah that you see it like that. It would have been smart. He probably had some shit and he could have like Trank Trank them all. Trank them. I think he kinda might have. He might have like Drugged'em a little bit because they were tripping with the biggest thing.

Then deal with the the real menace, which is the the main Jimmy. Yeah, yeah. Like that's your moment. You had him. You just you fucking blew Mysterious powder in his face. Yeah. Yeah. Why wait till later to fucking turn on him? I mean, the fact that he even threatened you that way, that's not gonna end well, regardless of you know? Yeah. Like fucking he's gonna come back again and try to do something else or some shit's gonna happen. Yeah, that dude is. You're too smart for this.

Look at the whole production you made in one day. Right. You could have done any You could have set yourself up in any kind of way. You could have to kill that good dust. That the fucking red mushroom dust with the fucking white spots and then blown it into Jimmy's face. They walk down the path, you just hit him with your dart, bro. Yeah dart. Boom. Doom doo doom. Done.

Dr. Ian's Risks and Trilogy Continuity

Fucking. Cool. Feed him to Samson. Yeah. Samson needs these. Rings of fucking some disemboweled dick and balls. Ding a ling-a ling-a ling-a-ling Samson. Dinner time. Yeah. Chow. He d that definitely like it just seemed like he was like Dropping the ball. I mean he kinda was'cause he was like when he first fucking started when he took the drug

When he's tripping out with sandwich. I'm like, dude, you're gonna f like he's gonna wake up dead. Yeah. You're gonna wake up a head and a spine and nothing else. You're gonna and you're gonna be looking back at your own body with no neck. And he even said that. He woke up and he's like, Oh still still all the more piece. He was risky. Yeah. Yeah. He's over it. I mean you kinda see him in that in that when he's like

Sitting there in his room naked, being just like, you know, it's like I've listened to this record so many times. Yeah, yeah. I need some new records. Sick of this. Fucking was this okay computer? Fuck this. That's the thing. I was like Is this record is this record pre zombie pandemic? Which one? Oh the Yeah, but yeah, the kid A or whatever, it's like it's two thousand. Yeah. It tracks like right before.

I for a minute there I was like, uh oh. I think they might have fucked. No, they did it. They did it. It's right. The last one ever. Yeah, that's the last album ever released. But I yeah, I I dig this all the music, the score and shit. Yeah, they pick they picked some really good songs. Like they they revisit the Godspeed song at the end again. Yeah. It's great. Pretty pretty awesome. I think yeah, I think she did a fucking killer job. Yeah. I think I really do think they'd like to.

It it feels like it'cause it you you don't have to watch the other one I don't think to like Really have you don't think so? I think you do. You do think so? Yeah. I feel like it sets up the kid, it sets up the Ian, the doctor. Yeah. It sets it all up. I guess so. But you guys are just the middle section.

This feels very incomplete to me, which is my only real complaint about is it I didn't know there was like gonna be a third. Right. And it just it just leaves so much is fucking unanswered. Yeah. Hanging in the wind like Samson's dick. Coming back. I didn't realize he was gonna be in this one. I thought it was gonna be the next one. But so we kind of heard murmuring that there was gonna it just seemed like that was gonna be the

its own thing. I didn't know it was a p a a triple connection. Right. I was like, okay, we got uh two for sure that are a full story and then Killian can have his own fucking thing. Right. We just catch back up with Killian later. Like it's a whole you know. But it it's kinda cool that now we are gonna get like full circle of Killian, his daughter, which I was trying to figure out that timeline'cause like

The gal from the first movie must be the mother. Yeah. But twenty eight years, like Those girls are teenagers, right? So Yeah, so the so they've been the mom might still be around. Who knows? Yeah, or not and it's just them, but like I was just I was just thinking that they they they were they were chilling for a while before they had

Like the daughter. Good choice. Yeah. Bring your bring your children. Let's make things harder. Yeah. Yeah. Let's make some let's bring a baby to screaming into this world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you if what you have to do is be quiet as fuck, let's bring a baby into it. I know, right? Yeah, smart. I like it. People just can't stop fucking. I'm sorry, Josh. What are you gonna do? Just not fuck. It's like the only good thing left in the world. I'm gonna fuck. Yeah.

But these rubbers are too old. I can't make new rubbers. Even the infected are fucking infected. All rubbers have expired. That's the thing. They use rubbers the whole time and just they don't work anymore. I popped another rubber. That means we got another baby. But yeah, there's a Samson baby that died and there's fucking like, you know, like they're fucking everyone's fucking. Right. That's the only thing left to do in the world. True. Only good thing left.

Trilogy Future and Apocalyptic Survival

Yeah. We see I mean he takes her body out. It's like literally that soon after that I mean it is literally'cause the the Jimmies were still had fully accepted him. Next day. Yeah, exactly. So it's right there. But I still feel like Yeah, where if dad is still alive, why wouldn't he be looking for his kid? Like why wouldn't he be honest? They're gonna finally wrap up all these loose ends or what? Dude I wonder. I don't know.

They're really I I have a feeling banking on this making enough money to m to make a third one. Judging by the look of the where they were or at the end with Kelly Murphy and his daughters, I feel like that's much farther Yeah. Then where his wrong direction. Yeah, okay. They went inland. Yeah. And that was shit was on the ocean, so

But one way in, one way out, only at certain times. Mm-hmm. That's the that's and you know the power is looking good to mean you got this chick who's a uh a hell of a warrior, like she's gonna be your new go getter and to get Stop fetching supplies and shit. Or at least getting your ass to the fucking the placing back, right? At the very least, yeah. Yeah, f uh they're a little cavalier with them fucking knives though.

close range infected with blood everywhere. Like that that is the thing, like you need to wear spraying blood. Yeah. If it we saw in the first movie that uh Donald Gleason gets a drip in his eye and it's over. Yeah. Not even by an effect like by a the dripped off a crow's beak. Well even in this turns, he stabs the thing when he pulls it back out, it's all psh.

And then that's and then seconds later he's fucking turned on like fucking safety goggles. They've got to exist in the world. Like put some put y thing over your mouth. Gas mask, right? Like goggles. Like what's what protect yourself. Yeah. I guess if condoms have all broken they don't have those things either. I've a feeling that yeah, you you could s if if you wore goggles over your dick, you could not get someone pregnant. It works. It feels horrible. Safety goggles.

Two Ziploc bags and a rubber band. I look like Samson before my dick falls off. No before but before Latex, those that shit's with fucking lamb skin, dude. Exactly. I mean, you know, I'm going in the apocalypse already with a vasectomy, so you know. Yeah, see? You're just shooting loads everywhere, huh? Yeah, exactly. No, I'm the infected. You're impact dead, you're impacting. Who wants to fucking not have a baby? Anybody? Guaranteed. Oh, everybody? Cool. Oh sick. I'm popular. Finally!

I think that if you're the kids in front of us who were much younger than us and you'd like Either if they didn't see the last movie, then what the fuck? A little bit. Hopefully what the fuck. If you didn't see the last movie, that's great. But if you didn't see the first movie, literally twenty eight years later earlier

Then you're like, Who the fuck is this old guy at the end? Why is this guy why is the guy from this all these other things? Why is the guy from Inception chilling here? Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, why are they making this guy seem important? Who the fuck's that? Yeah.

There uh you run that risk. Uh and a part of me is like, Okay, well this is episodic like a TV show. I've seen T V shows that are an hour and a half long now. Stranger Things, what, two hours long at the end of that fucking thing? Yeah. And now we're watching we're just watching TV in the theater now. Right, right. With a year between episodes. That's fine. Do you think it'll be like that long? Just like a year? Like this one was kinda?

This was probably just under Well they made these at the s like the same time. I don't think the third one's a I think it just started production, so it's it's not gonna be for a month. Okay, so it's gonna be at least at least a year. You need to

Make that movie before Killian bites the dust. Not that he's ever in biting the dust. But y you know, c anything could happen. You never know. Yeah. Let's see, uh so Twenty Eight Years Later came out in June and we're in January now, so that's a good thing.

Fresh Take on Zombies and Canon Debate

So they did shoot him back this six months? Six really You're supposed to direct the third one. The final one. They're all written by Alex Garland. Okay. Yeah. I think you did a great job too. I mean I think it's kind you know, to come up with like a new idea that's actually like interesting is I for this for as we know, s like zombie shit is fucking like hard.

Yeah. And luckily it isn't fully, you know, it's infected. It we know what it is. It like it definitely it's it's a fucking zombie movie. But it definitely just feels like, oh, this is it's this is even for like um All the shit that Walking Dead did and all that stuff. Like this still feels somewhat like new territory that we're, you know, kind of on, which is cool.

And like I don't mind it feeling like different and like interesting. Oh I I embrace it being interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. So I mean good good on'em for that. Yeah, it kinda makes it makes me like the the first half more too and you kinda you know, can totally build e each other up. Yeah. I yeah, I must I don't know about how good the uh previous movies were, but these two have been fantastic.

I watched them rec I watched them recently and I still love the first one. Yes. Don't love twenty eight weeks. It's not bad, but it's not great. But there's like you think about it, you're like you see it, there's like Idris Elba and Jeremy Rennards in it and all these casts. Crazy cast. Yeah. Rose Byrne and Imogen Poots. Yeah. But the weird part about that is

Didn't we discuss this last time? None of the happenings of part two are actually in canon with what happens in twenty eight years later. No. Right?'Cause in that the whole world is fucking infected. Yeah. Right? Right. But this like as we saw, there's like people from just the mainland that are like Flying around and doing checks to make sure no one escapes. Right. People from the Sweden and Sweden. Yeah. Like And that's the thing about the end of part one is that they're like

I they're in dire straits. They're like the uh Kelly Murphy and is and the other woman are like and then they see a plane flying over. Like uh over England. You're like what the oh fuck. So people there's planes moving. Yeah, people are like oh not everyone's in yeah, fucked up. But it's

But they have no way to find out. Right. But then the first or the the first sequel, part two forgot about the fucking military from Sweden. Do you remember all those fucking guys getting fucking worked in that hallway and shit? Like just that was it, man. I definitely think that there there was more

Brutality with the infected in the first part. Yeah, for sure. Twenty eight years later. Yeah, yeah. Because this is mostly the Jimmy's doing most of the fucking heavy lifting. This is this is mostly talking, sitting around talking and tripping balls. Yeah. This is a little movie. At the end of it.

Box Office Woes and Escapism

There was a couple of things. Firstly I was had to piss so bad I could taste. Brian's piss. So I was like I was like I need to leave I And I know there's not gonna be a post credit sequence because I already saw it right before the credits. Right. That's what I told Jeff. Like I was like,

Oh they they just showed it. Killing Murphy part is that's a post credit sequence. That's the one. They're like, No, they showed to you, Dummy. But so I I was like by the time I got out of my fucking slow moving reclining chair and hobbled my having to piss ass down the stairs. The credits were done. Like the actors, the cast was gone. So there's really only like fifteen, twenty people in this movie. Right. I did think it was interesting when they showed up.

When the Jimmies were going to meet Satan, the and they were considered the fingers, there was only five of them. I thought that was interesting'cause there's five fingers. Right. Including J Jim Sir Jimmy Crystal, whatever the fuck is that. Yeah, that was so dumb when he was like You know, you have to have seven fingers. Like, hey, wait, what? Why seven fingers? What?

I'm I'm into it. I I think it's really sick. I enjoyed it very much. It's sad to hear that it's not doing well. I can't believe it. Why why wouldn't it be? The first one was good. That had hell hype on it. Yeah. Do you think it's only because maybe people that missed the first one aren't obviously going to see the second one?

Yeah. I feel like it happened so recently that you don't even have time to take a breath and realize that twenty eight years later Bone Temple isn't the one that just came out. Right. Why is that still in the theater? Yeah. Like why uh doesn't yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, that is very at least do the same amount of business, you know,'cause all the people who saw the the first part would want to see this one. Yeah, I think so. I would imagine so. But sequels don't do as well generally.

I mean I I don't know. Maybe some people are just like, Yeah, I'm not feeling that. But I who doesn't want to see more Bone Temple? Shit. I did. Yeah, seriously. I don't know. It's looking like it's right now it's saying'cause it was saying the budget estimated budget was sixty million. But they were saying that right now, currently, as of it just came out, just oh wait, oh, that's twenty eight years late. I was like oh there's a they made it they made a good

Right. Because they already built it. Like Cone Temple was built already. Right. Sets are built. The small much smaller movie. It's more. It's more. Estimated to be sixty three million dollars. What the fuck? Why? I don't know. To get that thing out of bed. You gotta have a handler, you gotta have a c little cart, a special cart to roll it around. It's its own little seat with its name. Direct director will chair. Samson's dong. Ding dong.

Oh fuck Yeah, it's saying yeah, sixty three million estimated. Um but yeah it's saying currently it's only made forty five million. Like gr worldwide. Why? I don't I don't get I just people are just are not in the mood right now. I mean yeah that's just not in the fucking mood for it. That is a thing. Although you would think that You would want to escape the realities, the horrors and I'd rather enjoy a universe where everyone's dead. The world is wiped out.

Can I please later part? Yeah. Let's just yeah, skip to the end. Skip to the end Maybe yeah, that is uh I I don't want to watch a post apocalyptic movie. It's happening. It's literally happening. Yeah. It's going down. Try not to take my eyes off my phone'cause if Trump dies when I'm not watching it, it's gonna be very it's gonna be such a disappointment. I need to see it happen.

In real time. I want the excitement of real time witnessing it, you know, live. Pay per view. Yeah, seriously. Glued to the screen. When is it gonna happen? Any minute now. It's gotta be any minute.

Critiquing The Bride Trailer

Oh fuck. Good one. I enjoyed it. I'm glad I went to the theater for it. What about them trailers though? You want to talk about trailers? No. Every time now when I go to the movies there's so many trailers when I go to the movie and there's so many trailers now.

And then they're all epic, just like the way that they're cut and the way that everything's shown. And then when it comes time for the movie, I always am like, Wait, what movie or movie? Yeah, exactly. I always forget. It takes me a second to be like That's the human attention span in twenty twenty six, I'm telling you. I'm like, whoa, what am I wait, what are we here watching? Open my door by Moon. Yeah, moon. Seriously. Who are you? Look over Jeff. Whoa, I'm scared. Who are you?

What was it what trailer are you talking about? Well there's Maggie Maggie Jellenhall's The Bride. Woof. Mm. How are we feeling about it? Not good. Not for me, sirs. Not for me. Not for me. I'm she calls him Frankie. I know. As if his name is Frankie's. And he talks like a person with like developmental issues. Like a it's trying way too hard. It looks like the second Joker movie. Why'd you do it again? No one wanted to see it.

It's like, oh, you're you're trying to make this cool like air quotes quote unquote cool. I I even think everything else looks like fine. Like I know what you're trying to do. I'm not necessarily into it, but l everything looks fine. Every time the Christian Bale pops up and talks, I'm just like Oh Goof. Goof. Like d are you like because this is this is uh Maggie Gyllenhaal's first movie, right? So I think like her first like directorial thing.

But is Christian Bale such a fucking ass hat that he's just like, No, I'm gonna talk like this? Like and just and yeah, and she's like, Well I'm what do I know? Well maybe that's the but what you need to say something. It doesn't look like it's directed bad. You know, I'll give her that. She's making some terrible like But the but she wrote I think she wrote it. I think that's a problem. The choice the art direction, the choice of the the just the h ide of the movie itself I think sucks.

But like The cinematography all looked pretty good. Sure. You know, like I saw some shots nice. Like the whole story. It's just like Bonnie and Clyde, but with fucking Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein. Dude, I saw Frankenstein Monster. Apostrophe S is monster. Frankie's monster. Frankie's monster. Shoot a gun. You shot a gun.

Why is he shooting a gun? Could death do us part. I'm like, blow my brains out, put it in that man. Like what? No, it looks dumb. It looks it looks brain dead. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Rough. But like I'm surprised they didn't give him like cool tattoos, you know, so it's like deranged on his forehead or something. Stupid ass.

Scream 7 Trailer and Killer Theories

Well that looked like shit. We did watch the scream. You guys hadn't seen the scream trailer yet. Yeah, it looks all right. What do we guys think? Interesting. Looks all right. Looks like looks like a screen movie. Yeah. But they burned down Stu's house, you saw that in the trailer. I was like, damn, that sucks for those people in Petaluma.

I did think that part was cool because you know, you can go rent it and stuff. Like that's cool. Yeah. Um But like it definitely seems like there's a few people that are are still kind of Leftovers from that last one. Right. Chad and Mindy. Yeah. From the last one. The twins. And uh and then like we we have Nev Campbell back and she's got a kid. Yep. A groaned kid. Right. Wait, so what happened? Wait, wait, what? So she was she was in the little one not the she was in the one previous?

Not the last one that was scream five. Scream five. Right. And she did not have a kid. She did have a kid. But she talked about it. jogging and she has a pushing a stroller. Oh. Wait, but how many years have passed then between this and this one? Just let it just roll with it, Brian. That's like a lot of years.

Hey, it's futuristic. I don't know. But then the kids from the She said girls too, so she had more than one this is the other one. So I we don't know. We only see the one kid in this movie, so uh who knows about the other sure girls she was referring to in that that flick. I I don't know if if I'm if I'm Sydney from the Scream

stab franchise of of actual real life. I might not have a kid. I might not I might not live in the United States. I might yeah. I might have a facelift and go live in fucking Germany. Yeah. Like there yeah, there's I might get into some witness protection. Yeah, seriously. Like what? Like Yeah, why yeah. Well, I don't know. But I am c'cause we there's a little murmurings of of Snocker. Yeah, I mean you heard its voice at the very end of the trailer saying return possibility. Okay. What?

Does he sell the TV on his head? Yeah, he talks like Christian Bale and fucking Bright now. I just want to see a big giant fucking ghost face mask pulled over a television set. Oh but it has like little dome like in fucking Silent Night, Deadly Night. Yes. Gold Mosley style. He gets good fucking dome. It's just part of a part of the television. That would be pretty fun though. But yeah, I mean like'cause he was fucked up, right? He died, right? He better he he better still be dead.

But it would be kinda fun. somehow the mastermind of all this the whole fucking time, like I've been doing this from jail and he's like in a f he's all fucking in some Uh Stephen Hawking style chair. I don't want that. That's actually a pretty cool idea. But I don't want that. I don't want Stu to be alive still. Yeah. I don't and he's not it he never

Struck me as being that smart in the first movie. Yeah, he's no mastermind. He was the like He died. Yeah, he was the lover of what's his nuggets and that was it. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh So but yeah, but I I was curious more from like what you what you thought. What I think was going on is is AI.

I think that he's that he's gonna taunt Sydney with AI from past killers, Dewey's voice. I think we heard Dewey's voice for a second. Interesting. That's horrible. They're gonna use that to to fuck with her. Oh is my theory and it I think uh other people will share that theory online too. But who's the actual killer do you think? Oh fuck if I know, man. Yeah, they're they'll they're gonna whip whip yeah, whipped that off Mundia. Yeah. Well sh her daughter I think

I think it's her daughter is wearing a p plaid skirt, blue, bluish plaid and the the previous killers have all worn the bluish plaid in the past. Really? Not all of them, but a few of'em like that's u usually a giveaway. So you think her daughter could actually be the killer? Could be.

I don't know, I feel like that might be a red herring this time because now it it is a thing that people know to look for now. Because it's happened at least four times. Huh. So that I'm I'm kinda s suspecting that's a red herring to throw people off. Sure, sure.

'Cause also like again. But who knows? It could actually just be the consistent thing and that's wow. It's insane. What? Why would she have a daughter that would like all of a sudden turn into ghost face and try to kill her? I don't know. Fuck you, mom. That's mine. She's sixteen. Agile. She wouldn't let me date this guy. Yeah. I heard the trade. She's like, where's where's my daughter? Under this fucking mask, bitch. Pulling the strings.

Scream 7 Casting and 'Mark' Controversy

Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know what who's it gonna be. I just uh like I think it's g they're gonna do something interesting I mean, Kevin Williamson is is directing it. He's a smart guy. Sure. He's made a lot of really smart choices in the past. Did you write this also?

Uh I think he probably had a hand in writing it. I don't think he w wrote the initial script to it. Okay. I think he jumped on board a after it already been written. Okay. I'm sure he punched it up. I I couldn't imagine he didn't have a hand in it. At least Gailweather doesn't have those fucking things.'Cause they had another director before him, like on deck.

Oh yeah, well he bailed out or something. I'm sorry, I missed your joke. Oh I just I just said thank goodness that Gail Weather says bangs. Yeah. Bring'em back. No. Bring'em all back. Maybe the killer could be the bang. Yeah. You'd cut me D Jordan I cut you. And Gail's Banks. Yeah. But yeah,'cause Courtney's in it. Nev Campbell's in it. And then we have like a few of the folks from the last one, Mindy and Chad. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Chad.

Mega channel. We're gonna talk about this real soon. We're it's coming out next month. Joe McHale's in it. Yeah, this this is this is the part that really bugs the shit out of me. You don't like Joe McHale? No, I like him fine. But he's he's playing uh Mark, her husband Okay. Who she mentioned in the fifth movie. Right. She's like, I'm married to Mark. Mark is the guy from the third movie that she was clearly had a thing for. He was the detective.

That they you saw they showed up again, like oh they look like they're dating. Yep. So it's implied that she went off and married that guy. But it's a different guy in this But they couldn't get that actor back, so they made Mark just some random dude she just happens to date guys named Mark now, I guess. It's just a thing. That fucking bugs and shit.

Just name him something else. Yeah. Maybe that relationship with that mark, the baby's daddy, they maybe fizzled. It's fizzled. He got they got divorced. It's anything. Don't just make it another mark. Yeah. Mark ass. That sucks. That's a dumb thing to do. That is that is weird, yeah. Mark Evans. So that that bugs me. I don't want that. I get just pay that guy whatever he wants, bring him back.

Bring that dude back. Who is Patrick Dempsey? Oh, is Patrick Dempsey? Yeah. Bring back Patrick Dempsey. Bring his ass back. Yeah. You pay you pay Nev what she needs. Pay that dude. He deserves it. He's a great actor. Didn't Patrick Dempsey, wasn't he one of the killers in the last movie? No, he was a killer in Thanksgiving. That's right. Oh the screen rip off. Yeah, no, I can see why you're confused. I can see why you're confused.

Um Ethan Embry's in the new scream. Yeah. Also. Oh no. I love that. I love him. He's fucking dope. So yeah, I'm fucking stoked about that. But he's a killer. Hey, you know, start speculating now. Let's look at I and D B, figure out who's in the movie, like, oh what if this guy's a killer? A character name for him.

Ca like remember him in in cheap thrills? He was so scary to me. Yeah. He was he was so nuts. Yep. I love it.'Cause he's someone you know. He's someone. And you know he could play like you know a nice sweet kind of dude'cause he grew up playing that character. Yeah, totally. So he has him to do to do a little switcheroo.

Empire Records: Nostalgia and Fantasy

That's what you need, the switcheroo. I just watched Empire Records the other day for the first time in a long time. That's a weird fucking movie. I still like it. I enjoy it. That movie is what's the word I'm looking for? 90s? Unlikely. That situation is unlikely. Like you perceive. It's full fantasy stuff. I enjoyed it though. I really did like it. I I love that they don't I don't get enough of that rock and roll guy with his fucking cutoff.

Shirt with no sleeves. Yeah, what's his fucking name? Uh Coyote something. I swear to God, his name's like for real, like Coyote something. Coyote ugly. Yeah, it's coyote ugly. You mean the main like s rock star that comes to sign do sign? No no no. The the guy who's he works at the shop, he's a he's a rock and roll, he's he plays at the end. But he fucking he's so awesome. Uh-huh.

Coyote Shivers? What's his name? Coyote Shivers. You're right. You're right. Damn, dude. I couldn't pull that out of my ass for nothing. I couldn't I was like What's the what's I want more of that guy? What's the big famous guy's name? You mean the the the the guy that's like the singer guy that comes there? It's it's Rax Manning, you're you've seen this movie. Yeah, Rex Manning. It's Rex Manning. Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff's seen Empire Records. I'm a nineties boy. Come on. I love that movie though. I fucking love it. It is unlikely, but I love it. I I d I remember seeing it the first time a little late and was like, what? And then I watched it again the other like, I remember like it was this fun. Sarah's like, You don't want to do it. Don't do it. I was like, I'm doing it. And I watched it and I was like, what?

This movie is ridiculous. Like the whole first scene of the I was the perfect age for it. Holy shit. Yeah, oh my god. Exactly. That's the movie. I mean I have movies like that too, and I'm sure ten people ten years old and we are like, What This movie's stupid. But you know what? That movie was for you, Jeff. And I'm glad that you loved it. And Ethan Embry is amazing in that movie. It's great. Oh my god. Or whatever.

Warren is the other guy. I love that actor too though. He's a great nineties actor. Warren's the guy with a black fucking Beatles cut. No, Warren's the uh the kid that like she tries a shoplift. Right. And they bring him back. Right. They give him the name tag, Warren. He's great. That kid was in session nine.

But the but the guy at the w the turtleneck who who's a he's a kinda catalyst of the whole shenanigans. He steals the movie, tries to put it down in Jer goes to what uh fucking Jersey City and Yeah. He's also great. I love him. He's uh dude, all the actors in this are so fucking badass. They those are some yeah. I feel like this is this is your breakfast club.

I fully feel it. I fully understand it. I can't say a thing. Because Breakfast Club, you look at it, that's unlikely. Sure. Yeah. But that's the one where I'm like, everyone was so cool. I still can't take myself away from it. Yeah, it's good it's good shit. Yeah. Dumb movie, good good shit though. Fully entertaining. Yeah, fully entertaining. Good cast. Yeah. It's a great cast.

Silent Hill Franchise and New Film

Well anyways, well we did it. We we we saw a new movie for a change. Oh that was nice. Yeah. I just saw that there's a fucking new Silent Hill movie in the theater. Jeff said it's doing fantastic. People love it. People are loving it. Just only bad of the biggest. Return to Silent Hill. Yeah, I I'm gonna go see it though, guys. You're gonna see it? Yeah. Oh boy. We do have I'm I'm gonna say it now, we do have one coming up. We're doing Silent Hill finally.

Oh, we are doing the first one, huh? Yeah, doing the first one. I'm excited for it. I f I still feel like we've done it, but let's do it again. No, I love that movie and I'd I'd I'm excited to talk about it. A lot of people love it. I don't remember loving it when I saw it, but I I got fresh eyes now, so I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give it a fresh take. You've seen that Samson dong, they're they're clean as a whistle now. You'll be able to enjoy anything. Yeah, your eyes have been cleansed.

It better be good, Brian. It better be good. It is. I'm about to fucking samps in your fucking neck and head. No, that'll be fun. I'm excited about that. I'll probably end up seeing the goddamn sequel. Yeah. Well did you see the other one though? No. So now you got you gotta watch another one before you see the I won't. Wait, there's another Silent Hill? Don't make me

There's Silent Hill. Silent Hill two. Yeah, it's called something though, I thought. Silent Silent succulent Silent Hill. Succulent Hill. Uh Silent Hill Revelation. What? See, I I'm not even played the games. I don't I don't really know what Silent Hill Requiem. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Silent Hill Ascension is a T V series. Silent Hill TV movie Genesis. There's a universe. What the fuck?

I've been missing out. There's all kinds of water. No, this is T V movie, TV series. What? Silent Hill scared me. Oh, 2006. Silent Hill is one of I seriously, one of my favorite early aughts movies. Yeah. Like horror movies. Wow. Okay.

I love it. I'm excited to d to check it out with you guys. I love the actors in it. It's yeah, it's f all the women in it are fucking killer. There's yeah, there's we still see cosplay from it like to this day. Any every fucking convention we ever go to, I see something from it. Totally. And you know what? That fucking game

It's fucking scary. I never played it, but I watched people play it, and it scared me just watching people play it. It's dude, I haven't played it in many years, but like when it came out, I had a fucking PlayStation, it was like Scaring my poo out of my body. Oh right. Oh yeah, the pyramid head, you got fucking all the nurses. Yeah, the dude in the bathroom, holy fuck. But it we'll get there. We'll get it. Okay, we're we're getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, yeah. But um

Yeah, I'm gonna go check out the sequel, I think. Or the quintiquel. What the fuck is it? It's one it's another sequel. It's Yeah, but this it it is like part two. It is I think it's off the second game, right? That's what's kinda going off of. When a man receives a mysterious letter from his lost love, he was drawn to Silent Hill, a once familiar town now consumed by darkness. It sounds very much like the original, mm, except for like she's chasing her daughter, but like the original, but

A little more. Yeah, I'm Ooh, it's got a four point three out of ten, sounds right at my fucking head. That sounds like Forever Midnight fucking sweet spot. We'll talk about it in ten years. When it's a classic. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. When it's beloved.

Sponsors, Outro, and Next Episode

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sponsoring us. We do. We fully back them on and off the air. They they're all great people. We don't we don't have sponsors that aren't homies. No, we that's real. And that's it for us tonight, guys. Yeah. Thank you for joining us everybody. And um we'll see you very soon. Yeah, my pick next. What's bribe are I gonna pick? Brace yourselves. Uh can I how can I pick the new Silent Hill movie? Wait, how's that work?

Let's Yeah, Jeff, come on. Jeff hasn't seen the first one. Let's not fuck around. But I yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be horrible whatever Brian's saying. There's I mean I I was looking at those those Blu-rays and we were just talking about all the the fucking deiser features. It might be Annie Lee's meat pies, I don't know. It's got Mr. Miyagi in there, man. With a with a hick accent. Pat Marita with a c I love Pat Marita. Eating a eating a steak with a cigarette.

Yeah. Come on. Come on. Horror. I can't wait. I can't wait. Now you t now you're tempting me, John. I gotta make this one hurt. This one's gonna stink. We uh appreciate you all. If you want to go to patreon dot com slash forever midnight, if you join up you can check out all of the almost hundred

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Except it's fucking no name who gives a shit's Cabin Fever. Right. I'm like, oh well you don't someone's like wrote us and they're like, you don't even need to watch it. Don't even watch it. It's a shitty remake. What about the sequel though? The tie tie we do need to do that. Yeah. Because Mark yeah, Mark uh Mark Port Portchart's in it and some other fools. There's other some other fucking wonka wonkinators in there too, right? And Winston's back.

Oh well now I'm in. Giuseppe's Giuseppe's in it? Okay, yeah, that's on the fucking bucket. Oh wait. Yeah, I think we might have promised that we'd do it for the next Patreon thing in the prior Patreon. Oh, we did, and we are. Looks like we're doing more. Okay, great. Fifth February. Here we go. I like being senile. There we go. Back on track. Josh is becoming more human, he's remembering things. He's coming back to us. I'm still uh tripping out by the moon. But my moon is just butt cheeks

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