¶ Podcast Intro & AI Transcript Fun
Time for one more story. Um, hey. Hey. Hi. Hey. Coming in so mellow. Hi? Chill. We're chilling now, man. It's gonna be a chill outside. Please, please. No, no, we're chillin', Josh. Chill it out, bro. Yeah, man. Just like just calm down. Just like chill, man. Just fucking take a chill. Hey listeners, what's up? Hey, you're listening to Forever at night. Sweet two ones of chills chill too. Does that just put you this I know people are driving like listening to those dude?
Uh we apologize for your accident. Hopefully you're you're uh We're not liable for anything. No. Just so you know. Just reach reach over, hit pause now and when you're in the hospital relaxing you can start it back. Then hit play. Yeah, now you have all time in the world. Imagine if we were the last thing that someone heard in their accident. It was like plane like we talked about like Yeah. Talking about the bell the hounding of bell end and like, what is this guy?
What are we talking about? Your last word, the last things you hear. As everything screeches to a halt, the last of the glass falls and you hear us fucking chuckle fucks. About saying from my aim to my screen like what?
Yeah, you're you're gonna the last thing go through your head is just regrets. Like what what did I do my life? The other day we released an episode and I was like I was in a hotel room with my wife and another friend and and I was like, Oh, I'm not gonna listen to the episode'cause I don't have my headphones with me but You know, I can read the trans I the you know the transcript of it. I'm gonna see if it posted and see it get a little read it a little bit. And I was like this.
Just trying to like not bust out laughing at six o'clock in the morning. Reading the transcripts. It's funnier to read the transcripts than to listen to the episodes. It's ridiculous that Fucking I'm sure it's AI, but like the AI is actually less is the saying. And writing the things that we're saying is preposterous. That shit is not meant to be read in a serifed font.
I was yeah, I was like I gotta I'm never mind, I'm not gonna listen to this or re look at this episode. I'm gonna wake everybody up like a maniac.
¶ Band Updates & Funny Language Mishaps
Oh. You just had some shows, right? Yeah. We had a show in Chico and a show in Sacramento. It was great. Was it one good? It was great. Yeah. Awesome. Great time. Cool, cool. Yeah. New drummer, going good. Yeah, Paul Hale on the drums, on the drizoms. Yeah. It's great. Hitting the beats. Yeah. Popping the Yeah, just smashing the drums. Popping the pings. Popping the tings. The tings. Hitting the tings, smacking the This is what people say. Stroking the tings. Stroking the tings.
Yeah, say it is uh we you know, have you guys have heard of tickling the ivories, right? Yeah like as in in talking about playing the piano. Yeah. I'm gonna blow my wife up real quick, but Uh for years she thought it was tinkling the ivories. Tinkling is tinkling tingling tinkling. I get it, but I think it's hilarious. Tinkling the ivories. It's when you piss on your piano. I have done it. I may have already have I told you guys that before, maybe? God. Tinkling the ivories?
Maybe just an old man now. Hey, what are we talking about? Did I tell you that my wife has a funny thing? I love it. I I'm here for to hear all about the funny things. I mean it's cool'cause you guys every time I tell you something it's new again.
It's exciting too. That's okay. I'm old too and I forget everything so it's cool. It's fresh for me as well. So it's it's a good good symbiotic thing. Let's hear like keep record of what movies we've done and what we haven't. What we've already said before. The guy that says the same story a hundred and fifty times and I'm sure.
When when when uh when you read our episodes, does it transcribe the ha ha ha ha ha haezing it skips all that stuff. So that's it's also weird'cause it's like joke, joke, joke, joke. Yeah, I'm telling you. Like if you just If you know the delivery is as fast as you can read it, so that's that's actually you can read it and all of a sudden you you'll surprise yourself because you just you'll read something quickly that's
fully ridiculous and be like, Oh, that's that's so stupid And I just look at it and see, Oh yeah, it did I read the what Brian wrote in the in the description, I'm like, That's where I always go And then right at the beginning it starts saying Hello. And it starts the transcript.
And I'm like, oh god, okay, I'll I will read it. It's it looks really funny. And it's just like hold on. Josh loves it. I love it so much. I love read uh not only do I love listening to our show, but I even more love reading it. The world needs more horror hosts, etc. Listeners that are regular to the show, you've already just heard this episode. But when you hear it like read like a fucking book, it's like we need horror horror hosts, legitimate ones, cool ones. Maybe Josh.
I think you're the guy. You think it's me? I think so. I think you need a wig though. Yeah, you need to wig me up. Yeah, I'm gonna have an Elvira wig. So it's just like shit like that. Dude, how about okay,'cause peop you know, we've been talking about trying to do more video stuff down the road here.
Uh instead of that, why don't we just use those as a script and hire three chuckle fucks to act as us saying those those words? Yeah, let's just hire like a pr let's hire Terrence Stamp Oh, I think the R A P let's hire Someone with a v voice like a Tim Curry voice, like a a a Shakespearean actor to res just to deliver those lines. No, but I want like three actors. Doing the legitimate actors just like doing
Uh saying our dialogue. Yeah, so that the video the the video of each episode is actually a representation of it acted out by actors saying the wild shit that we say. Absolutely. We should I mean you could easily just I could copy and paste this and we could just make a book. Yeah, can we just publish books? Yeah, WordHorde. Hit us up. We have three hundred and fifty episodes of books.
Like here, you look ten percent better than the Crip Keeper. Ten only ten percent. That was me, sorry. That was that was that was just a hunky Cripkeeper. Josh, you've re you read a Uh one once uh this like when you initially were talking about this it wasn't a little bit more than you were going through it and then our conversation about God's haircut. God's haircut.
God's haircut, which is the screwed eggshell. Yeah, which is yeah, it's it's it's bald and also long hair at the same time. Like is it God's haircut because it's a little that's just g naturally what God wants me to have? Or is it God's haircut because what that's what he rocks. I think it's because it's a little bit of everything. It's bald and long hair and a little bit of short hair. And it's it's humans. It's it's
It's ev it's all the things. It's all competent hairstyle. God's haircut. I fucking love that. That cracks me up. See, and we didn't even have to write it ourselves. We d well, we just had to sit in a room and for thirteen years and talk in a microphone to make it work. Like, did I tell you about my friend?
¶ AI's Absurdity: The Generated Book
Who Wait what friend? You have other friends out there in this? I have just one. Just one, don't worry more podcasts. Uh oh. Uh don't worry. Um he lives far away. Go ahead. Go ahead. I don't want to see him. My friend, he's my age. Um, you guys do know him. And there's another one of us that all grew went to high school together and we he he's we've been going to a lot of shows and stuff and he collects like horror masks and stuff. It's like he's homie I've known forever. But
You know, he's my age and lives in the middle of nowhere, so his wife's like, I need to make this guy a Christmas present. And she said, Okay, well, there's this AI company that'll just write you a book. Have I talked about this? No. So she was like, she just filled out a form. So I'm gonna give my beloved a book about his life.
What? Just fill in the blanks. What does he like to do? He likes to go to fucking punk shows and he likes to collect horror masks. He likes to go on adventures and drink beers. With his friends, me and this other guy. And then they've known each other this amount of time. Very I don't know how many blanks she filled in to get this book, but AI generated a 300 page book.
Wait, but what what about filled with lies. Yeah, I was gonna say like all this stuff nonsense. Yeah, all the stuff in between has to be insanity. They just make up everything in between. What? It's insane. This is a book printed. PRINTED! The cover he's he's always sending me AI shit. It's making me crazy. It's making it starting to make me psycho. AI shit is psycho.
I'm so fucking over it. It's so crazy. And as he sent me he'll send me pictures of me and two f friends, like he's he has a picture of us together, but it'll be like, make it Christmassy and now we're all wearing Christmas sweaters and all of a sudden I'm like, Wait, that's not even That's not me. Like that's not my face. That's someone else. That's an imposter. But the the one the book I started reading it and he was like, oh look, I got this book. I'm like, have you what? What is this?
And I looking at it and there's a picture of me on the fr cover of it. Like what? These aren't None of this happened. Did you get paid, I hope? No! Total recall shit. This shit never happened. It never happened. It never happened. Like, he's got a grandkid. His grandkid, he's gonna he's not gonna live forever. His grandkid's gonna read this book and think this shit happened. None of that happened.
What the fuck? But so like what's the point of it then? Like what's the point of doing this? I've read more of it than he has because I perused it. Yeah, but like that seems insane. It's insane because it's not a real book. It's a fake book. It's a It's but just has your name all over it. It's a it's an insane mad libs. That's what it is, yeah. It's an insane yeah. Can you imagine a three hundred page mad lib?
That's full of nonsense? Right. Like mad libs are made full of nonsense, but when you have to fill in the blanks Like I c she couldn't have filled in more than a hundred words. Yeah, because otherwise you're writing your own book. Right. Who wants to do that? Yeah, right. I pr I read a few things of it and it was just like It was insane. He likes to go drink beers with his friends Josh and Cody. Uh But one night they killed a man.
¶ Concerns About AI & Likeness Ownership
And they had to dispose it was a big thing. I might need to read this book what the fuck, man. Like I might need to read the book and find out if it's just cops like what I think.'Cause what I what I think about AI shit like that, which is weird, is it like that's all going into AI's big brain. Mm-hmm. Right? And what's to stop them from just pumping that out to somewhere to sell?
Oh yeah, the first time I showed Sarah one of the pictures that he was generating of my face, it's usually just like he'll have a picture of us. And you'll be like, Oh, make a picture of these three people together like a th like the thing? Or like more like just hanging out. Okay. I prefer it like the thing, but sure. If you look closer, I don't think I have any of them anymore because it's like I was swinging my phone. You're like No that's that's a stunt double.
Like uh no always just me. Everyone else looks fine. Maybe I can't maybe they think the same about themselves. They think I look fine. Like yeah, it doesn't really look like me, but it looks like you guys. And you look close, you're like, no, that doesn't look like me. See there's some giant warehouse somewhere where they're 3D printing your ass. Right now. Exactly. You know, just slightly off, but enough that maybe it's gonna stroll into your house one day and kiss your wife.
She'd be like, Wait, what happened to your nose? That's not your nose. And be like, what? We've known each we've been we've been a married couple for thirty years. And say like her name wrong. Right. Spell it wrong. Sari Singer. Yeah, wait. Say my last name again. What? What I part of it was wrong. Tell me before I say it again. I'm always learning. That's a weird thing to say. Yeah. Okay. You're in your fifties, you're actually forgetting. No.
I'm only one year old. Josh, when did you get God's haircut? Well if you know what? At least bring my hair back. If you're an AI guy's. Might as well give him some abs, give him a fucking haircut back. You know what though? The best AI is just some Ghana artist painting us. Because we have that out there. I got all the biggest muscles I need. I got the tiniest biggest gun. I have the tiniest biggest head. And it's absurd. And I love it because some
Dude somewhere painted that of us. Yeah. With his bare hands. No computers. No nonsense. He got paid for it. Yeah. We paid for it. You know? And that's the way the world ought to work. Nothing. Like the when I I showed Sarah the first picture of me with the fucking with a weird face.
It's like not the first picture of me with a weird face, but the first one of the weird ones she didn't recognize that no one actually refused. She was like, Oh, okay, well, yeah, they own that image now. They own your your likeness as now their property. They own your ass. Like thanks, buddy. Thanks, dude. That's what I'm saying though.
Your ass is first on the list. Me? Yeah. Not me. Yeah. Why me? Because you're reportering you. The first book that got printed with your face on it was the number one that that's number one. They're like One mouth where his butthole is supposed to be. Like a kiss. Yeah. It's you're gonna be a fuck doll. That's what I'm saying. Instead of eyes, put mouths there. I have two other friends. That's like I'm like
And this is a woman who who who did this to me. Like a one of the most lovely, wonderful people in the world who just wanted to do something nice and said, Oh, there's this new technology. Maybe I should do this funny quick thing. I look at it as this is a volume of ghastly lies that needs to be d destroyed. Think of the the the insane amounts of water and energy and neighborhoods that destroyed. That one booked it.
¶ Ethical Stance on AI Generation
Well that's the thing. Yeah,'cause it had the it the tree. The tree. Like they said that one one query on like Chat GBT Like it was like gallons and gallons and gallons of water. One question. So imagining a three hundred page book. I've never once used ChatGBT and I don't intend to, but I do have friends that default to, oh, hold on, let me just check and chat GBT something and get answers. I'm like and well, anytime you go on Google you're gonna see AI responses.
Yeah. So much of that shit when it's like yeah, so much of that shit is so wrong. Dates are wrong, weird shit like this added you're like,'cause you're just pulling from idiots on Reddit and stuff, you know? Like, and then they got the wrong information. There's like, oh this guy said that. So th this is the answer. Or filling in the blanks. Our entire history now is just like mush.
It's all blended together into a slop. You don't have to believe facts. You can just make it what you want. I want I feel good about believing. Fill in the blank there. Whatever you want. I have a twelve inch penis. Say that out into the world right now so that AI will take that and run with it. Brian Henderson with his twelve inch penis. Living at four one six Magnolia Avenue.
As a twelve inch penis growing out of his neck. Amend it for you. And it has God's haircut. You're like a fucked up unicorn. Yeah, that's a I've never done a chat GBT. I'm never going to do it. I've never generated an AI image. I'm never going to do it. Remember, see, I I'm guilty. I was in that infancy when we were fucking around. Maybe I made all those fucking ghoulies. One's um
Stevo and shit. Back when it was fancy and we had no idea. Oh, is it still like horrible looking and not realistic? Yeah, it was so crazy. And and none of us knew that there was any consequence to the like the energy it was using or the things it was like and like now I'm just like, oh my God, I like generated all these pictures of Steve O. It probably killed the whole town. Steve was done worse.
But no, but I I've I've ridden my ways a long time ago and I definitely would never use it for actual like real art or like anything that you know like Yeah. are already rich. Like lawyers use it. People that have all the money and all the time in the world. Just fucking what are you doing?'Cause they're just selling it to fucking dip fucks to like make them more money. Oh God. So clearly. God. Uh well on that note. What's up everybody?
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¶ Choosing Dr. Caligari (1989)
Buddies, why are we here today? What are we watching? We watching well we finished up We finished up the Patreon top dogs. Did wrap that up, huh? And now we get to dip back into our pics. Yeah. I was so excited when I went I had to like believe we had to go do some excavating. to figure out who had the last pick. Oh yeah. It was a while ago. And it was a while ago. And then I was like, Ooh, I think it's my pick. Yeah. But then I kind of also just flailed it and we
Kind of all we're just talking about this again the other day, so I just And I told you I was gonna pick it. I lobbed it in there. But I I wanted to see it, so I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll lob it in there since I'm gonna do it. You you chose this a year ago for for all of us as as one you wanted to watch and you threw it in the D surfeast when we did the live show at the uh at the opera plaza. Theater. Right.
And then I am dumb and I did not know I e I feel like this might have been the one where where I was absent because I don't remember seeing it. Sure. Um because I saw I watched the trailer while we were like right after I watched the movie and I was like, No, I did not see this trailer. I would have remembered this. Um but I also might Be dumb and I do drink and I might just not remember it. But anyway
I s I was like, guys, I got a movie I'm gonna pick next. You can't, you're not even gonna believe it. And you're like, Yeah, Brian already picked that one. We see the trailer. We've seen we we know about this one. You too. And then so you I think this is Brian putting his foot down saying, This is my pit. This is not your swinging his big twelve inch cock from his neck onto the table.
Get knocked over the fence and make you guys watch it. Yeah. So it's sort it's it's sort of a y'all y'all's pick. Yeah. Yeah. I I knew it would be safer to go into it'cause now Josh was on board. Yeah. I knew that's an easy one. The From when I showed it the first time, Jeff wasn't on board. Oh. That's why I feel like I I've all I've kind of seen this around since the late eighties and have always w kind of wanted to see it. But I but I mean there's a reason why I never watched it.
It wasn't that compelling. I would I wasn't like I need to see this now. See, I never saw any peep of this fucking thing until I
¶ Trailer Reactions & Wild Discoveries
accidentally discovered the trailer for our decent feast. Yeah, this is the first time I I've ever heard of a sequel to Caligari with your Deiserfe trailer. Yeah, like, what the fuck? Like, where was this at? Because also This is I mean, straight right up my fucking alley. Right up my keister. It is like Yeah. I knew watching it like starting to watch it five seconds into this movie and I was like
Oh God. Oh God. They're gonna hate this fucking movie. They're gonna this movie is like potentially with good reason. But uh not my reason. So like I I had discovered this because I was Hot tubbin on the midday. And I was cruising on my IMDBs and I was like, What, this Steven Quadros, what a fucking face on a man. What a face. What else where else can I see that face? I was saying this while he's completely naked in the middle. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah, he's he's cooking the marbles in the hot water. Yeah, phone halfway underwater, me halfway underwater. Blowing bubbles. Yeah. And I was looking through h Stephen Quadros from Demon Wind and from Shock'em dead. Shock'em dead. I'm like, what else has this man done? And this was on the list. Yeah. I don't know. He's look very different in this one. But y I r notice him right away. Those fucking cheekbones. Yeah. He's got a So that's what I was like something
I I couldn't even put the connection together last episode. I was like I don't know or the one we did. I was like I don't even know why I was looking at this, but this is my next pick. And it turns out I was just on a Steven Quadros kick. And that's why. And I needed to see it. So I saw that I was like, I've always seen this. What the fuck is it? I didn't watch any trailer, just kinda like It just looked crazy.
It sure does. Yeah. It sure l the the trailer w blew my mind. Well, I I saw the trailer'cause there there's like one quick shot that I was hoping was gonna be way more in the movie. But uh it's it luckily it's in the trailer. But there's two long boobs going every which of way. One's going left, one's going right, and they are held up.
By tripods. Yeah. Those are lengthy. And I'm ready I'm ready to motorboat them things. That is a wide set pair, my guys. Yeah. It's like oh gosh, I need to see this movie. Yeah, I w once I saw that in the trailer I'm like, I get it. I get it. I see what's happening. But yeah, that's that's surprisingly
So quick in the movie. Right. There could have been so much more of that kind of thing. Yeah. I mean there there is a there is a lot. Well there's a lot more things things. Yeah. But yeah. I wanted that that Every so often there comes a movie so sick, so twisted, so incredibly insane, the critics shout, Oscar calling, Oscar calling. Unending tournament. Meet Dr. Kalagari.
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¶ Initial Impressions: Art House Bizarro
You're gonna save this. Do you wanna know how I feel about it? I do want to know. I could probably guess. I'm into it. What? I liked it. Are you serious? I fully liked it. Well, do you know how I felt about it? You hated it. I loved it. Okay. Fuck yes. Fucking love it. Because I love it also. I think it's pretty tight. It is it's I mean it's a it's a shit. for like a movie but yeah but it is so intriguing and it's gorgeous. I mean like it's to look at right still
they're it's still photographers trying to m make a motion movie. Right. It doesn't really work that well, but like God it looks amazing. I think that kind of works in its favor though. Yeah. Yeah. It's really neat. I mean it really to me it looks like David Lynch fucked Pee Wee Herman. Oh yeah. I was thinking the same fucking thing. If he made Pee Wee's Playhouse. Exactly. That's ex exactly what I was thinking watching it too.
It's so bizarre. And every shot is it's just like if you pause it, I'm like, oh my God, I would frame that, put that on my fucking wall in a heartbeat. Some of the dialogue was blowing my mind. Like some of it was I was like, Oh my God, these guys are delivering this dialogue like they are some of the better actors around. And I think it's'cause some of'em are some of the better actors around. Like the guy who played the m the main the really skinny guy. Oh, he's great. Yeah. Gus Pratt
¶ Acting, Dialogue, and Background Artistry
Gus the character Gus you know where he's from? The Shining nineteen ninety seven? Better. Uh Return Living Dead? Yep. Oh right. Send more paramedics, dude. That's him. I was like, What the actual fuck, dude? That that's him. I kind of think he was the only one delivering the lions with any kind of Gusto. Everyone else is pretty pretty fucking monotone, just like flat.
And maybe that was just the vibe, you know? Yeah.'Cause it I think it was supposed to be the vibe kinda. It's it's I mean it's this is not like a movie. This is just like bizarro art house shit. It is. It's and it's also really like watching it when it was finished I was like, Well, that wasn't a horror movie. Like it's pretty far from a horror movie. It's it's like a bizarro stage play. It's like it's it's theater but on camera. Right. And it is
fully theatrical. Like there's these guys an admit it as much. Yeah. Um yeah, that I think it's what's the guy's name? Stephen uh Cyedean is the He'd done with this the guy that wrote it with him. uh stage play and he talks about it a bunch with and the special features. It's Jerry Stahl is the other guy that wrote it with him. And and these guys have a background in in uh photography, still photography, which they were doing for hustler for many years and even like a parody hustler.
Which I really want to get my hands on. It's called Slam or something like that. Really? It's the the it's like a national lampoons hustler thing. Amazing. It looks just like this. It looks like this. Yeah, it looks so cool. Every little vignette you can imagine there being like a spread out chick on for hustler, you know, in the eighties. They showed some photos in the special feature. I'm like, yes, I need to fucking see that shit.
I see I wanted to fucking get on with the special features and of course I had to watch it on fucking Tubi. And you motherfuckers gotta watch it on the I invited you to watch it with me. I know, I was already fucking in you own the Blu-ray. This is yours. I know and I watched it on Tubi. John, I stole it from the biggest. Commercials. I'm like, what's happening? It looks so good too. Like it's worth another watch. Yeah. This also this shit's going on like
If we got people in the fucking studio, that's just gonna be playing in the background. I was thinking that too. This is like a perfect thing to just have playing in the background'cause it's so cool to look at and you don't really need the Pay attention and watch it. No, you don't need to know the plot. You don't need to know anything. It has shots and it's like a music video. It's exactly like a music video. But they have done music videos as well.
It was like we didn't music video. And they are like an yeah. I might have uh I can't believe Rob Zombie didn't rip this one off instead of you just went for the OG one. Right, right. Like this one's ca this one's cooler looking. Yeah. Yeah. There is a really I mean, I just wish it was if I just wish it was like some more scarier shit. That's all. I wish there was a couple things that'cause there's a few things that are I think they're supposed to be scary, but they're like
It's more just bizarre and there's a lot of latex used. Yeah, it's like it's pretty comedic. Like I I think it's intentionally comedic as well. It's campy as fuck. Yeah. Oh dude, like a remake could happen and it could be All drag queens and I would be like incredible. Yeah. Crush incredible. Yeah. The guy that plays the the uh I guess he's the director of the Caligari Institute for the
Or asylum. Oh yeah. CIA is the Caligari insane asylum. That's what CIA stands for. That's really political. Yeah, Avon. Fox Harris, yeah, ends up in drag. Fox I I recognized him immediately from Repo Man.
He's the guy driving around Repo Man with Aileen in the back of the room. And the nurse I've never seen Repo Man. Oh my god. I know. The nurse is from Repo Man too. Yeah. She has a Mohawk or something. Yeah, she had the Mohawk in it. She's like yeah, I recognized her right off the bat too. She's one of the main like punks in the movie. Um you've never seen Reaper Man, you'd fucking love it. No, I was talking to our friend Taylor recently'cause she loves that movie and she's like
We're watching that movie'cause I'm and I know that's a movie that I would like'cause I know enough about it that I know that it's like right up my alley also. It's funny, it's totally ridiculous. Bizarre shit, it's like it's a higher budget
¶ Cult Status & Cinematic Legacy
cult movie and set out to be that, but it's brilliant. How come we've never seen this on like crazy cult lists? I've like seen things from like I don't know where like midnight movies like you know there's so many popular midnight movie uh series, but I had never seen this like advertised.
Dude, if we ever if we get to program movies again at the theater I was wondering if you would do a fucking original and this one. Boom boom. I won I wondered. How fucking sick would that be? It'd be it'd be crazy. It'd be batshit, but like it'd be'cause people are like, Oh cool. Dr. Caligari. And then this comes on, they're like, What in the actual neon? It's so d I mean, it is the eighties.
It's not the it's not a version of it even. It's not really even a movie, is it? It's not ca the cabinet of Doctor Caligary. It's got it's got has has aspects of it though. Mm-hmm. But it is it sort of a sequel or is it just a retelling? Well it kind of is'cause she's supposed to be the grand
Same story. No, but like she's supposed to be the granddaughter of him and stuff. Like there's like weird things like that, but like Right, and he ended up at a in the Saiyan Asylum in the end of the movie. Right. But Yeah, this doesn't really have any like through line or I I mean there's hardly a plot. So it's just kinda what it's just kinda goosey goosey. It's just whatever. Yeah.
¶ Surrealism and Visual Spectacle
I fucking love it. I am blown away by it. I think it's one of the weirdest movies I've seen. It's in it's on par with like uh fucking Liquid Sky or w you know, uh Forbidden Zone. These kinds of movies that are So it's funky and after an hour you're like okay, wrap it up, but yeah. It's cool. Yeah, it can definitely be a little shorter probably. Yeah. But I mean, it is it is interesting the entire way through and you're less like and everybody's like
Cool to look at. They might not I I kind of feel like they were they weren't doing a shitty job of acting because they were kind of told to. Well for sure. I mean like how many times did they break the fourth wall and like doing weird shit I love how everyone was s just sliding in and out of the frames fucking just being pulled like on a
It's a border session. Oh my god, it's so inspiring'cause there's like a lot of things like that where like that happens in certain things but it only happened like once in like a a David Lynch thing or something or whatever. And this shit happens all the fucking time and I love it. It's something I love too. I it's just so I find it so eerie when someone could just is just moving without walking, you know, to just soak still and but m
I will stare at the camera just at you. And it's it's almost an every shot in this fucking video. Slide off the stage, right? Yeah. And then they turn and look at the camera and then talk right at the c it's just so s bizarre. Yeah. I I I really dug it though. I'm stoked that you did. I th I I only pictured you being so bummed. I wanted to come watching with you and I couldn't and so I was I was like fuck
Like I thought I could kind of be a buffer if I was here with you. Could kind of be like, I could kind of kind of see it through your eyes a little bit. Yeah. And then I was like, fuck. Just gonna fucking kill me. I was fine prepared to hate it. Yeah.'Cause I I mean, I saw the trailer and I'm like, Oh, I see that the long boobs is really cool, I like that. But like, God, the rest of that looks like shit. Dude, the tongue is the tongue. Tongue scene.
¶ Memorable & Bizarre Special Effects
Blew my mind. The candy coming out of the fucking wounds. Yeah. Oh, I love that shit. And she was getting lapped with that giant tongue. I'll tell you everything looked Really cheap and shitty, but that tongue looked Fucking legitimate. That was legitimate. There was a couple things. We're like we're like, oh you gotta read all your money into this tongue. Yeah. I you know that's just a dude with the arm and a fucking tongue, but it looked fantastic. I was like, where is Screaming Mad George?
I like I feel like this is like his fucking real life. Like where was he doing put him in the fucking movie too? Giving him a few lines. She kind of almost looked like that. There's another punk rock um besides Repo Man, there's another punk rock. uh thing in the movie where the girl who kept saying what was she kept saying t the blonde girl who kept saying something chinchilla, chinchilla, chinchilla. She's a lead singer of San Francisco's The Nun.
¶ Director's Vision and Production Style
Oh shit, really? Punk bands from the e seventies and eighties. I kind of thunder like thought like almost like things like Forbidden Zone or other things. I'm like, there's a probably a lot of these background characters are from punk bands or other different things, you know, that are actually like known and you know
I didn't get to see the I'm curious about this dude's other movies'cause they showed the posters for his other movies. Like, fuck, those look sick. Do you saw the w the one of them that we talked about? Like just I don't know if we talked about it on the mic but or not, but Cafe Flesh Flesh. Yeah, which I kind of watched out. I might have watched a um uh one of the other ones. Like I was like I'm gonna see if anything's night dreams or something. It's a it's just a porno guy.
Well I uh yeah. I want I I just I said I want to watch it. I might have watched the porno. Yeah. I might have been like, oh well ooh. Okay, well'cause I'll tell you, it's not as artistically done as this, for instance. Oh that's a shame. Yeah. But the posters look great. Yeah. Again like w the sh the work he was doing for Hustler and whatever that other Like parody hustler.
I look fucking am blown away. It looks so good. Dude. I gotta This art direction is i insane. Yeah. I I was uh I was checking out the special features of listening to of Stephen Cyedin and I was like, I don't know if I really this guy might be driving me crazy and then I kept listening. I'm like, Okay, never mind. There's really valuable lessons in filmmaking here. Mm-hmm. Like he did all the effects shots at the very end of the movie.
To give everyone plenty of time. Give it plenty of time to get them done and also to have a a bare bone set when it was actually going down. That's smart. Yeah, they didn't need to have like a huge fucking crew and they could all just focus on that. Wow, that's pretty fucking smart. But in reality, they did only Warnos before this and music videos.
Sometimes those people have a vision, man, and they got like you when you look at it from like a lot of eighties porno shit, like the Playboy stuff, the hustler stuff, all that stuff, the photos and stuff are really fucking cool. They're really artsy. Oh yeah. And like that had to come from somewhere. It's not definitely coming not coming from fucking Larry Flint or, you know, anything like that. Like it's actually like
You know, coming from those art directors. Yeah. And like So this guy Sayed was the art director for Hustler. That's fucking sick. I didn't know that and like that's that's amazing. Yeah.
¶ Intentional Cheapness & Set Design
I th I need to get I'm gonna dig into these fucking special features when you guys leave. Oh you absolutely should that's good. I was watching them too. Pretty pretty fascinating. I I I know his other movies are gonna be terrible.
Uh objectively it's terrible. Sure. Oh yeah. I mean and most people are gonna be like, What are you guys talking about? I don't think he was polling for that. I mean like I right away like kinda what hooked me on is like it's clearly knows what it is and what it's what it's doing. It's not trying to be a good movie. fully it's winking right at you. You know, it's like we're we're just have we're just
Doing some weird shit here. Yeah, but you've got to be a little bit more. You fill it full of weirdos. Like Fox Harris is a fucking weirdo. Yeah. And everyone in this movie is a weirdo. And then The Delivering Lines in the strangest way and the weirdest dialogue and the craziest looking Backdrop. It looks so phony and and stran like it looks cheap. The whole thing was inside. Yeah. Yeah. Like there was not a scene that's outside. It looks like a black leg mini golf course.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. There's a little fog in the background. Yeah. I'm like, I think I played that in Santa Cruz. And I think they th they was talking about it. They had the they had a lot of time to make this movie, so they just did
weeks of rehearsals as if it was a theatrical production before they shot it. Oh yeah. And it feels like that. It feels like we're watching a a crazy play. And to be honest with you, it'd be the coolest play I've ever seen. You know, if I saw that. There's not a lot of like Camera work. You know, like all the movement like a lot of movement is just happening in camera where it's just like a more st stationary where I they do a couple zoom ins and zooms out, but
Mostly it's just like a still shot. Yeah. Which looks fantastic but like it's not it's not a good film. But what's cool is some of the shots though are like are like where they're doing stuff where they're like
They stagger stuff where there's like a th the main foreground junk happening. Right. And they'll open up a door and then there's other stuff happening way back there that you can still see when they like reveal it. But it's all a steady shot. But there's stuff happening. Yeah, they or like flowers or listen.
Yeah. It k it keeps your eyes interested, you know, it keeps it keeps you entertained. But it's fully the sensory overload and they're I think they're trying to like There it is of a time and it's authentically of that time of like Like it's like sprockets. I they're trying to be like weird and like it's like a fucking elevated perfume commercial from the eighties, but like on fucking so many hallucinogens it's insane. Yeah. Like and it's fully pornographic. Yeah.
I mean from the jump in the f in the best way. It's so fun. It's so ridiculous. That that initial scene was giving me big old video drum video drone vibes. With the with the mouth and with the screen, the interactive screen.
She's like hallucinating uh or looks like she's hallucinating herself getting fucked by some baby headed f weirdo. Oh yeah It was so that that part was actually pretty creepy. Pretty weird. That was probably one of the creepier parts, right? When it came out of the water, when he came out of the bathtub.
When she's like sitting there right next to the bath and then he like sits up and he's like Yeah, it's it's real I forgot about that. That's really bizarre. Also that baby face looks very much like that newer Blumhouse movie. Yeah. Happy death day. Happy death day or totally except that's like a just a
face mask, right? This is like a full head. Yeah. Which is looked really cool. Totally. Yeah, that was a that was really creepy. I yeah, I don't want to unpack what they were trying to say with that scene. I don't know what what's going on. Which I love that. Like there's so much stuff where you can like You gotta go home and do your own digging unpacking'cause it's like there's yeah, I mean it's
It is it's art. It's fucking It's a full blown art film. Yeah. And for better or for worse. Like it and it's so consistent with itself that you can't find fault. Right. Like it is sure, it like you said, it's not great filmmaking, but it's also Incredible art making. Right. It is. Yeah. It it fully is. Yeah. Like I was digging so hard. I'm like, All they did was just
fucking glued some shit to this Volkswagen and put neon in the windows and I fucking love it. The neon Volkswagen is so sick. I'm like I was like, that's just plugged into a wall. They were not to push that thing too far. I'm like, I hate Volkswagens, but I want that Volkswagen. It's got like a shark fin on top or some shit. Yeah. Yeah. Like a leon in the windows. Yeah. Sign me up. Yeah.
¶ Art Film Analysis & Deep Themes
ha was having a blast. Dude, it I mean that's where all their budget went was to like it's it's the same guy. Like the writer director, he did like all art direction and he made it himself. He just I love it. And they're just fucking putting it all together, painting it, what doing all the things he was the cameraman and the
director and the writer and the art director. To save money. Yeah. Hey. Yeah, the whole thing was shot for like a hundred something thousand dollars. You can tell. You can tell. It looks cheap. It does look super cheap. But it looks intentionally cheap, Jeff. I think it looks great. I do I do too though.
rad. I wonder if we would if we would dig the look as much if we saw it in the eighties as opposed to like seeing it now and like really appreciating the nostalgia and the I don't think so the retro vibes. I don't think if you watch it in nineteen eighty ninety, nineteen ninety, you'd be like, what the fuck is this shit? This is'cause it's actually
But it still has some retro Pee Wee's Playhouse shit going on. Sure. But it's but everything kinda like not everything, but a lot of stuff looked like that stuff back then, you know? Yeah. It's like a fucking moving naagle, you know? It's like
Yeah. A flagle. Flagle. Flagle. Yeah. A Bazaar Imports five dollar off the rack naagle. But like but uh but I'm like, well I like this one. It has three boobs on it. I'm taking that one. Like it's weird. This got more boobs than the regular Nagel, so I'm taking it. Yeah I mean it's a little bit more You know I the the cake, the weird gore cake. Oh my god, so cool. I just I wanna I wanna st I still frame so many of the shots in this just to have totally that they're so cool.
No, at every turn I was just like, Whoa, dude, like this is like I mean, this is like if you wanna fucking trip out and watch a movie, just do it to this one. Yeah. Seriously. This is a fucking It does it does get a little like I might unsnoozed for a moment and had to back it up toward the end. Definitely. It got a little snoozy at the end. I checked I started checking my phone a little bit and just gotta pop my eye over and look at it like that's cool. Look at it then.
Yeah, w I was watching it around midnight last night and I was looking at the and I was at the screen, I was like, What wait? Oh, this is the very last scene? Okay, back it up a little bit. Back it up. What I miss. It turns out I didn't miss anything. Yeah, you don't need to do that. I blinked for maybe one second. You don't need to you don't need to do that. But it was
¶ Behind the Scenes: Viewing Experiences
It kept me going. I was like, How did they make this movie? Let me go I let me check out the features'cause it's ex it's it's got the two main female actors in it. It's got the writer, it's got the director talking about it. Lucky ducks getting to watch all the special features I bought. And uh thank you, sir.
The only problem is is that um uh before this episode I'm gonna go break it over my knee so you can't watch it. Is that is that gonna be a problem? Uh the first thing I thought of when I turned it on today I was like Oh dude, Josh watches at his house last night. At his house. Did you watch it like it sounds like it was late so Sarah's probably I watched it after when I was myself I almost was like, Oh this movie it says
New to the mild on IMDb. Tell you what, that's not mild new to the I'll tell you who didn't think it was as mild, my wiener More like wild. I like turned it on and I was like, Oh, I I was gonna call Dylan because I'm like, Oh, I bet Dyl would like this movie and he probably would.
But I was like as it started, I was like, I don't feel like watching this chick masturbate with my kid next to me, so I'm good. Meanwhile, Greasy Strangler's on his twentieth viewing at your home. And my I did watch that next to him first first go. Yep. Yep. We've all seen it with a big thing. Years ago. But he
Yeah, I I mean I'm stoked that I've seen it now because it's definitely gonna be one that I'm gonna be showing people uh and just making people watch, force them to watch it. Yeah. I dig it. I don't know how or why, but I dig it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the original he was making
¶ Pop Culture References & Character Lore
The dude into a killer, right? And so she kinda did that with the gal when she juiced her up with the cannibals. Oh, by the way. Huh? The cannibal guy. Yeah. Pratt. Fully based off of Albert Fish. Okay, yes. Fully. For sure. Hundred percent. For sure. The s the needles in him, the some of the shit he said, even the gal that he put in the stew.
In the real life her name is Grace Bud that he ate and he wrote a letter to their parents about how he ate her. Oh my god. Fucking one of the gnarliest letters you will ever read. Most fucked up shit.
But her name was Grace Bud and the the the thirty three year old he's talking about they put in the stew, her name was Grace Bow or something. It was like so close. It was like dude if you would address him a certain way, he w would look totally like him too. Totally dude, fish was scrawny scrawny and weird and like The husband's name is Les Von Houten. Leslie Von Houten is one of the Manson girls. Is that right? Right.
Wow. So I was like, what the fuck? Like there's all gotta be on there's pulling, you know, pop culture shit, which is I don't mind at all. I mean it's a lot of dialogue, so you gotta be packing it full of stuff that you know that is
And it's cool to pack stuff like that where it's like not everybody will know, but some people will know it and some people will just be like, Whatever. That's a weird name or something. But like I was like immediately like our fish, Manson, like just like shit, you know, like I love it, I love it.
Yeah. So I I mean I'm I'm fully on board. Like I'm I want to see Cafe Flesh. I'm like I wanna see fucking Night Pornos or whatever it's called. It's called Night Pornos the movie. Wet Dreams, whatever it's called. Um yeah Night Dreams. All one word. I like it when it's all one word. Oh no, it's Night Chill. Night Night Child.
¶ Caligari's Legacy & Character Design
We have a lot of Oh, that's Night Child. It's two words even. But I I love it when you have a dreamscape or an evil speak. I just love the lo the compound word movies, especially Yeah. Demon Warp. That's the one I definitely want to watch. But like but in so the original Doctor Calgary though, he was making him into a killer and then she juiced up uh Miss Von Houten with the the brain juice of the cannibal and made her a killer. So there's that kind of weird
Kind of I guess that's the weird connection or kinda. Yeah. And then she ends up becoming the oh yeah. There's okay. Sorry, I was just looking at John Durbin on IMDb. This is from the Shining nineteen ninety seven. That looks great. Yeah. I I'll give the I'll give that the T V the shining that like some of those fucking ghouls looked pretty pretty cool. Best stuff about it. Yeah. Best five segments of the movie. Yep.
But yeah, that's I w like I tripped out when I was like, That's the fucking send paramedics now gu like that. Like the most famous part of that movie almost. Like one of the more quoted things from that movie, right? Like and just like Memorable. Is it just like Ambulant Zombie? Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah. Number one.'Cause there's another one that says send more cops. Right. You know? It's so funny though they're like John Durbin, legend.
I dude. I thought he was pretty good, man. I loved his look. I loved his crazy ass. I loved his hair. Mm-hmm. Into it, into it, into it. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. I kinda even the fucking weird Miss Von Howden, I kinda like at first I was like
She's kinda weird looking and then I'm like by the end of the movie and especially when by the when she flips the stuff. Yeah, but she has the wig on like I get it. Yeah. You know? And then yeah, I thought she was wonderful. I was chipping on um I knew you were you were loving this when I was watching. Oh dude, yeah. I knew it.
Uh the gal that played um Dr. Caligari, Madeline Rainile from Argentina. I was tripping out like what was up with her fucking like bloodshot eyes? Her eyes were all fucked up looking. Like they looked all like She was having like a allergic reaction or something and I was like, Is she just like f is that just normal or is that something going on with the movie or like no she was just high as fuck. Might have been fucking stoned.
I'm just stoned. Mandatory stoning upon making the movie. Yeah, we're all high here. We're making this fucking weird porno not porno in the warehouse. Like I the the guy uh who wrote it was like Yeah, we and me and me and this guy have been making movies for a while and we still we we definitely put money shots in the movie, but the money shots are like the effect shots. And the money shots had people walking out of the movie and then like
That girl that that Dr. Caligari actor though, she's only been in that movie and one other one called Space Mutiny. Well she's she's a a model I think. I think that's her that's her main gig.
Funny man. Yeah. Which you can tell she does a lot of like modeling poses. Yeah. Yeah. Random. Whatever one does. Body language. Yeah, but her in particular and she's good at it and it's very random, it just seems. I did love like the weird just like yeah, like like there'll be somebody standing in the background and they're just like posed out.
Or like when we first meet Dr. Avol and he's got there's all the people behind him that are i in the weird cloaks and they're all posed out the entire time and at the end it's actually like Dr. Caligari in there and stuff. And like I wanna make shit like this. Like creepier and weirder, maybe, but like
But definitely is pretty, right? I'd like it to be prettier, like yeah, just like striking. Yeah. That's the good word. Yeah. Striking. Like a lot of it reminded me when I was a few of the scenes I was like, this is reminding me of like the cell.
Like the some of the crazy inside D'Nafrio's dome parts of the cell where it's like all the women who are just like waiting with their mouths open and like talking to the camera, I'm like, ooh. Super crazy. Yeah. You know, but not without the horror appeal.
¶ The "Non-Horror" Horror Film
Yeah, I wish I had a little more horror for sure. Yeah. I was like that's the one thing I'm like, man, that we really this is pretty far away from horror that we've done in a you know, in a while, for sure. I guess so, yeah. But it is I mean, hey. It's got boobs. It's got it's got gore, I guess. I don't think. But I you know, I think some people might be scared by just the surreal nature of things, maybe. I think Jeff's criteria is it is it trying to be scary?
It's not. It's not trying to there's no scenes that are trying to instill no dread in it. It's trying to freak you out, but not trying to make you scared of like. Heterosexuality in a way. What if I get squeezed with the juice and I wear a wig with a lipstick? I love that guy Fox Harris so much when he I love him.
When he flips and when he's when he's rocking the wig and the lipstick and he's getting pushed down the hall and he's waving and shit. He's on a fucking hand cart. God, this is amazing. What about the guy with the fucking the fucking gods haircut that was all spiked up? Yeah, what the fuck is that dude all about? There was also a dude that looks
They're pushing him through that weird room where there's the teeter totters, everyone's fucking I love that shit. There's one guy blocking the door and he's super tall. He looks like he has like that Marfan syndrome like uh Some what Malvert? Yeah, Malvert or fucking what's the dude now? Uh Javier, Bote and stuff like that. But I was like, what the fuck is that guy all about? But of course we only see him like the one time. Mm-hmm.
And I was like now I was like obsessed with him on like wanna find out who that guy is. And he he's probably somebody we know. Probably some wild LA weirdo. Yeah, and you got Steve Quad Stephen Quadros is the scarecrow. With his fucking lines? What's that? Two lines maybe?
Does he have any yeah, maybe like two lines? He's got a pant full of fucking fiery hay though. Oh that's right. She said is I was waiting for a corn cob to come out. Right? I was hoping that was like the one thing is I was like, come on guys, like give me some weird dick. Like we do have a weird stump that goes up a dude Oh, the arm? Yeah, that's wild. Yeah. Like upper husband's fucking And Yeah, Mr. Von is it Von Houten? Von Houten, yeah. Yeah, he's he's bugging me. Yeah. He was bugging me.
Yeah. But um I mean shit does go down. She starts taking people's brain juice, putting in each other. I know, swip swap, swap swapping juice. Yeah, dude. Spl splish splash. So taking on the characteristics of each other and stuff, so Weird cannibal guy is just like really lovey devy now and shit and all like Yeah. She's she's killing fools. I guess I guess that's a plot. Yeah. Yeah. I just that's sort of a story. I just read that the door tongue was played by somebody named Tequila Makimur.
Nice. So Tequila Mockingbird, wherever you're at, holler at us. Yeah, we we need to know how how how many of your arms were inside that thing. I did see it z it was some light cat shining and I could definitely see two hands, I'm pretty sure. Making that thing flip flop. Because how else are they gonna do it? It's a puppet, essentially. Oh it's yeah, yeah. Fully arm inside that thing. Mm-hmm.
It looks so good though. The tongue yeah, the rest of the door looked kinda shitty, but that tongue looked Yeah perfect. So I think that fucking weirdo dude, maybe at the at the door It's blocking I think it's Randall William Cook. Randy Cook who's like kind of a c he's he does visual effects but he's also does like weird like character actors and stuff too and stuff, but I don't know. Yeah.
Weirdos in the house. W who who else was in there? I'm sure there was other weird little people tucked in. There's a lot of weirdos. Who was the guy that was teeter tottering all the way up? He went all high and I saw his foot. I love that teeter totter scene. Good pick, Bri We needed more long boob though. We needed way more long. Right? Yeah. Or like
Like each going the other direction, like crisscrossing each other. Why not? Yeah. Looking behind her. She like walks on'em or something, like like a gorilla style. Yeah, skis down a mountain on him. Well, and now that you said that about that they did everything at the last minute uh or at the end and like you know They that was literally they did one scene, they probably didn't realize, like, oh we should have done more with that. It's stationary, but all right. Yeah.
Like oh we really blew it. We should have way more move than this. Oh we didn't even talk about how uh Caligari had those weird Boob plates. Oh yeah, the little boob plates. Oh yeah. Nipples sticking out the the front and center. That's pretty great. I like that. It was it was an interesting look. Mm-hmm. There's no explanation for it or anything. It doesn't matter. No one cares. No. And I do explain what? What are you gonna explain in this movie?
I do love the husband and wife team of the nurses too, how they would like to do that. How they ever they would bounce Like their com like whatever they're saying, each one would like finish the And the and the very last scene is like one taking a drag of a cigarette and the other one exhaling it. Yeah. Like it's I'm like and you could tell that guy had a mouthful of smoke. Before you're like, Oh, I know what's gonna happen here. Totally. Yeah.
¶ Audience Division & Podcast Dynamics
Yeah. I really liked it. Yeah. It's fucking weird. It's so weird. I mean that's right up to the couple of things. People are gonna hate us because they're gonna go and oh, this must be a good one and then watch it and be like, What the fuck? No, there's a w a little warning here. This ain't good.
Doesn't mean it doesn't have to be good for me to love it. This is this is gonna divide folks because like there's gonna be the folks that can appreciate it for what it is and everyone else is gonna hate us. And you know that's it.
That's a matter of opinion. Yeah. And um I I can't believe we're all on the same page, to be honest. Like I feel like I'm impressed. I I feel like when it comes when the you know, when the chips are down We got a sensibility about us that we're like, I appreciate this weird shit.
There's a reason we do the show together. We have we have a collective bang. It doesn't always align. No. More nor does it often align. Yeah. Sometimes. No, it does often. But I mean a lot of the time yeah, oftentimes we'll all hate something or all like it but There's a lot of times for one of us is out, you know. For sure. It has to be a few times, yeah, when when we all got a different opinion on something saw. I that's natural. Oftentimes it's like love, hate, I'm in the middle.
And that's fine. Yeah. Mm mommy, daddy, mommy, fighting dolly. Yeah. That's fine. I all I could think about though, the whole time I was watching this was like, yes, we just made so many people watch this fucking movie. I love it. Like fucking Tubi's gonna be like, whoa, red alert. Got a bump here. Gotta put some more fucking gigs behind Dr. Caligari. I'm into it. I'm fucking yeah. If I if we introduce this to anybody that loves it, I'm happy.
Because I feel like there'll be a few people, man. Yeah, I feel like that's important. Watching these weirdo fucking deep deep cuts. Yeah. Find something one of the gems. This this this is the kind of shit that speaks to me though. This like weird Like it's so pretentious. It's unbelievably pretentious. But in like The most fun way. The fact that it got made it's like bananas. Like that the he was able to even get anybody to put any money in or time or real actors or any crew.
When you're just like, This is what we're trying to make, they're like what? I can't wait for you to read the see that see the behind the scenes stuff'cause the whatever film company put up the fucking money was like, These dailies look great. Here's more money. Wow. Where did that money go? Yeah. They're just sending him one sh fucking sh pages of hustler. How's this look? Oh, this looks great. Here's more money. In the end it's Dr. Calgary like, wait a second. This wasn't the movie. Yeah.
It's pretty neat. It's a pretty neat thing to watch. I don't know how the fuck we never like I definitely had never saw anything about it. No, never saw someone talks about it. Never saw it in a video store, never saw it in a s in a DVD or a video store in the the two thousands or late nineties. It I think it's just depends on what video store you were in. And I definitely saw this in the video store I was going to.
Yeah. Hollywood video or Eastman video, whatever one it was, I was seeing it all the time. Crazy. I was like, maybe is tonight the Dr. Caligari night? No. Not tonight. Because I do like the original. Like the the just Even stripping I mean'cause even the original it's it's whatever. It's a a silent film.
You know, but the the sets and the makeup alone make me watch that movie over and over and kinda surprised they didn't do more of that. You know, like it's pretty artsy and there's a lot of angular shit, but like it Uh they're sort of trying to make it look like outside and stuff. This clearly we're just in a black background and we have some weird door. Yeah. The very opening scene where they show the design for this the Calgary insane asylum. Yeah.
And then they pan out and it's like a cutout building. Oh I love that. I was like yeah, but I but I was like, Oh, that was their attempt to do the old sets, which are Beautiful and insanely amazing. The black and white old sets for that movie are incredible. Yeah.
And so like I just like they maybe were like, Well, we can't really do that. So let's just reason people still talk about Kaligari is because the sets were so fucking cool and that just had a cool look. Not not for the story. Well just like the stark black and white of the main character too. You're like that's That's so iconic. Yeah, the makeup is so silly. He's so crazy looking and angular. I mean, really Doctor Caligari's crazy looking, like
You know, it's it's cool. It is cool and definitely in the realm of all those silent movies, it's one of my favorites just because it looks it's one of the coolest looking. Cool, cooling movie. But um And so is this. Yeah, totally. I I I hate to call it a movie, but it's it's very cool again. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's an art movie, but it's you know, it doesn't have to have a plot to be a movie. Yeah. I mean
Really. But it is his picture's moving, so I guess we're Yeah. But it really is a it's an art piece and it's and it's a dope one. I love it. And it has all the things I like and so I'll definitely be tuning in again. Yeah, me too. For sure. I appreciate you guys going on the journey with me. Yeah, fuck you. I can't wait to see what happens in the next two episodes with you guys picking but I'll tell you what I'm not gonna pick. This one again. Oh darn. But uh you d I'm glad you picked it. Yeah.
You should get so you should pick Keffy Flesh, just saying. That's definitely just a porno though. We do are we doing just pornos now because we are slowly sliding slides. We've done it in the past. Five minutes at a time. Guys I just I lost interest about a few minutes in for some reason this was stop speaking to me.
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