How traditionally April is space. The beginning of spring. I forget even now, it was just a couple weeks ago, but we figured we were like, what were we talking about? I don't know. We were talking on some episode and then somehow the space movies came up. Wouldn't it be cool to do? Just jumped on it. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like it's been percolating back there in the old brain mass for a minute. We've been talking about... How? I still don't get it.
Leprechaun goes to space before he goes to the hood. Like, the hood is right there. The hood, the final frontier. To see some white, maybe Irish folks, maybe the hood's scarier than space. Exactly. Space is fine. There's nobody there. No spacers, no gangsters.
What's the worst that could happen in space, guys? Right, right. I'm not going to get held up. Yeah, you're also not going to breathe air. You know who doesn't even breathe air, though? They're like a leprechaun. He's supernatural as fuck. Yeah, yeah. He probably still needs air, though. You think so? Yeah. I don't know. What if he is air? Magic and air? Because a ghost is kind of air. He is wind. He is a sort of wind.
Isn't that he reeks of farts? Because his coins are constantly falling out of his ass. Isn't that how it works? That's where a leprechaun keeps their coins. The pot of gold is actually in a leprechaun's ass. That's what the pot of gold is. So if you do manage to find the end of the rainbow, it's always, always. It's a leprechaun bent over. Exactly. Coins are going everywhere. Sounds like a Mario. fucking Mario Brothers. Yeah.
Yeah. Space month. You're doing it. Which is the crazy thing is we thought there'd be so many more horror movies in space because it seems like such a trope. At least it was for... A hot year in 1996. But yeah, there's only just a handful that we could really find. It seems weird. It seems like, I think definitely that the franchises are all blowing it.
Any franchise that's up past six that hasn't gone to space yet, you're fucking blowing it. Might as well just go to space. Yeah. What else is there to do? I don't need another fucking wonky master. It's Halloween. Throw them in the shredder. Like take his ass to space. Michael Myers in a fucking space suit. Let's do this. Get him on a spacewalk one time out there in the stars. Yeah. I mean, you know, he'd be a great guy to like work in space because he can't really die.
Yeah. You know, get a Jason up there. And then Michael Myers, get one of these guys that can't die again. Put them to work. Yeah. Put them to work. Work. Get pinhead. Put them to work. It turns out the priest of hell doesn't... do well outside of oxygen at all either. He needs oxygen too. He needs air too. Sure. Does that mean that hell has air?
I guess. Where does it come from? It's foul, though. It also has many rules and regulations, much like a corporation or an office building. That's actually tracks. Before we get too far, do we want to talk about our month, though? I know. Let's talk about our month. That's true. So Space Month. So we're doing all the franchises we can find that have a sequel in to space. Yes.
which is four. Four pretty much is it. That's end all, but that's perfect for a month. We've touched a little bit on Jason X. But I'll be frank, when we did that episode 10 years ago, I hadn't seen Jason X and I wasn't. wanting to. So I just kind of like sat there and watched you guys talk about Jason X. I've since seen it and I actually like it. Jason X is better than most of the movies in the franchise. I'm sorry. That's kind of crazy.
I don't know what you mean by most. It's better than the... What is it? Jason... Goes to hell? Goes to hell. See? That's a matter of opinion. It's 100% better than disagree. I can't wait to get this episode. I disagree. So that's coming up a little later. It's the worst one ever. Yeah, easy. Leprechaun 4. Yeah. In space. In space.
Seems like we're going to do the same thing Eddie Deason did and just skip the good one three that DiCaprio's in. Yeah, we'll turn the spacecraft around and head back and hit three. I feel like all of these, if you're in space, it's got to be the deep future. Like you're out there in the future. Cause you can't do it now. Cause where'd you be on the fucking. Yeah.
Those guys were out there for three months and we just got them back and they were like all fucked up. Yeah. Leprechaun floor is just called in space. Right. Like.
that would be so sick if he just showed up on the space shuttle just fucking with people like he does a couple little tricks and everyone dies and he's just sitting there like oh it would be too easy because he's like there's nowhere to go those ships are so small that they're on you know you can't do anything for him it's good though because he's small he can get into little crevices and shit
He's a rascal. Yeah. And I don't think he needs air. I know you guys said that, but I think he can teleport. He can teleport, but yeah, what if he... Does he have to have an oxygenated port and entrance? Yeah. Entrance and exit. A dry dock or a space dock?
I want a space doc with work, Davis. But also, on Patreon, we're doing Event Horizon, which is not a part of a franchise, but it's a movie in outer space. It's kind of... in this realm around yeah made around the same time as these movies deep future feels very similar we've done an episode on it that is lost the time yes lost in space lost in space that was a covid episode it was covid it didn't go well the recording was bad we
Jettison into outer space. We teleported Leprechaun into it, so it exploded. Yeah, so I'm excited to give that an official episode again. That'd be great. It's been long enough. I have no idea what we said on that first go-round. Not at all, and that movie's fantastic. So it'll be good to finally like give it its due. So I hope you guys all play along and watch these movies along with us this month and enjoy some space adventures. Totally. I mean, like,
it's funny that again, that there's not more, but also there is like the one that everyone kind of trying to kept on trying to send us. And it looks like such utter bullshit is, Amityville horror in space. No, it's not Amityville horror. It's just Amityville in space. That's the thing that doesn't fit our criteria because it's not an official sequel to the franchise. We're just saying call it Amityville and we're having some random bullshit thrown together.
To try to get someone to rent it or buy it because they got tricked thinking it's part of the franchise. It's not. And there's how many of those movies? Amityville, Hunter, Amityville, Toilet, everything. There are hopefully at least two toilets in the Amityville Horror House. You would hope.
No, that's the horror of it. There's only one. There's ten rooms and one bathroom. And there's a giant pig shitting into it. And those old bees. That's where all the flies noise are. That's where all the flies come from? Yes. Yes, absolutely. You're absolutely right. Oh, my God. It's exciting. That one doesn't count. These are all official sequels. We got Pinhead in fucking space. We have Jason in fucking space. We have Leprechaun. We have Critters. We didn't mention that yet.
We're doing Critters 4. Which is fun. Oh, is that the one I was thinking? Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. We did mention it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We debated this one because they start in space. Right. They're aliens. They're aliens. Yeah. Technically, they were born in space. The other movies are all on Earth. It should be called Coming Home. Homeward Bound. Is it entirely in space, this one? I don't know. Because you know what's not entirely in space?
Hellraiser Bloodline. Centuries ago, a toy maker set out to build the perfect puzzle box. A gift that would bring... gates of hell. Oh my God. Do I look like someone who cares what God thinks? Now, centuries later, a scientist has unlocked its secret and the battle for the future of mankind is about to be fought across the boundaries of time. Hellraiser. Bloodline.
We were baited and switched. I don't mind. There's plenty in space. There's at least fucking five minutes there's at least 30 minutes of this in space because it bookends it is I actually looked it was one hour before we got back to the spaceship It is 30 minutes in space. I'm going to go ahead and say it's 20 tops. Because it's 30 minutes is a, that'd be a long time and not a whole lot happens. You got to think about like 10 minutes at the beginning and then 20 minutes to wrap it up. Sure.
They were selling it, though, that these guys were going to space. They were not in space. They were in olden times. Yeah, they were in olden times and newden times. Very newden times. Dude, oh my god. I love that he's just like... He's being interviewed. He's trapped. He's handcuffed and shit. He's like, there's no time. We don't have time for this. Let me tell you the entire story from the beginning. Wait, what? Without missing a detail. I want to start in the 18th century. Is that cool?
far enough for you. They're in 21-27. Let's go ahead and skip around a little bit. Let's make this quick. You can just hit the bullet points at the homeboy. There's demons out in the fucking space station. Yeah, just say that. Just say that there are demons here. I downloaded demons right when you guys showed up. I didn't get a chance to hit the delete button. They are fucking furious. He was playing with his fucking power glove. I had my Terminator fingering the box and then they showed up.
Yeah. I like that scene though. You know, right? It's kind of awesome. He's got power gloves and he's fucking... I love that the Terminator is sitting crisscross applesauce in this fucking tank. Skinless Arnold is just fucking chilling. With a box. I love it. The worst CGI I've ever seen in your life. They couldn't have made some fucking...
fake robot hands and just have a real box. What was the CGI for? It was so rough. That couldn't save time. No. There's no way, because back in those days, no come on they were not saving money by throwing cgi up in this yeah here's the thing if i ever come across a box i know exactly now watching this movie what the move is to get the hooks to come out. So does everyone else. You just fucking tickle the G-spot counterclockwise. You put the thing up or clockwise. Yeah, you put it up, put it down.
No, then you just kind of fucks with it, and then you thumb the circle around the rim. And then you can also press the other circle in, because it's a little button. You know what would have been perfect to open that box? Was our... The second main character, Rimmer. Rimmer! Rimmer! How do you think you got that name? Clyde Berger's sitting there going, hee hee hee hee hee. That's the woman who's... Rimmer. Rimmer was originally going to be a male character.
Do you guys ever watch, speaking of in space, Red Dwarf? I love it. The English TV show. No. It is, I don't know. It's, it is for an angry little person or what it's about. It's not. No. Um, are there any? No. I don't want to explain Red Dwarf to you. There's 10 podcasts that are all about Red Dwarf. Red Dwarf is a fun show. I used to watch it a lot and I loved it when I was younger. But there is a character named Rimmer in Red Dwarf in space. Does he show up on the bowling show?
No, it's a little late. Shut up. You watch the bowling show too, Brian. What are you laughing at? Oh, he tries to turn into a red dwarf. Watch out. Hold on, it's a raider dwarf. I'll show you a red dwarf. I'll make your dwarf red. Slapping it. I wish you would. I wish you would. Rimmer. Bring it on, Josh. Bring it on. Yeah, Rimmer was originally supposed to be a male character. This whole movie is such a goddamn mess.
Because Alan Smithy directed it. I love it. I couldn't believe when I saw that credit roll. I'm like, it's an Alan Smithy. This motherfucker that directed American History X is doing this shit. No way. Did Alan Smithy do American History X? Yes, sir. Well, you know, I mean, we... Yeah, I know all of that. Okay. Explain it to the audience. So, Alan Smithy...
Most of you probably know, but if you don't, there's no shame in not knowing. It's an interesting story. For sure. Alan Smithy is a name that people started putting on movies in the 60s when they didn't...
They had to relinquish some control and the movie was embarrassing for them to put out. So they opted to put their, yeah, I don't want to be attached to it. If a director removes their name, they can throw in an Alan Smithy. They can throw in Alan Smithy. I'm not sure how the tradition started, but one of the more famous ones for us in Forever Midnight-verse is Student Bodies, which is 1981. Only the seventh movie to be credited with Alan Smith.
Wow. So yeah, it's not too far after that. And from the 80s and 90s, there's hundreds. Right. I mean, like I mentioned earlier, American History X, that's an incredible movie, and somehow that's an Alan Smithy joint. What? David Lynch has put Alan Smithy on things. Has he really? But, like, for Dune. When Dune came out for TV, they expanded it and split it up into two nights.
And he was like, don't put my name on that thing. So they put Alan Smithy on Duno for TV. Pretty much the listeners, and if you didn't know this, but if you see Alan Smithy, most times the movie is going to be a whole complete mess of dog shit. Yeah. Right. So this was Kevin Yeager. Yeah. Which is wild. It's wild to find out that it's the effects master legend.
If you Google the shit that he's done, I mean, it's some of our favorite shit. Nightmare on Elm Street, Child's Play, Tales from the Crypt. You name it, he's done it. So much. Incredible. He's one of the best to ever do it. He's so good. And he was hired for this job because I guess he'd like cut some corners on the Tales from the Crypt movie and kind of save some money. And they were like, oh, this guy like...
He's obviously can do it and he can do it in a way that saves some money. He knows how to make things work for a budget, you know? But, I mean, I bet he did... He knows it was a... He didn't get to his way. Oh, yeah, yeah. It wasn't even done. From what I understand, it's like... You can only get that Alan Smithy credit for maybe more than that.
more than half is not yours or something is that right yeah so someone else came in and finished the movie which was also the same someone who came in and finished uh halloween curse of michael myers right and that was a fucking mess too and he came in and like kind of just got it all together it's the same same dude that flew i thought he i thought that guy though wasn't he was gonna do it and then he was like i'll burn out after halloween was a mess and he didn't end up doing this but anyways
It was a studio. Yeah. all up in everyone's mouth. They finger the box of this movie in the worst way. They flicked it so hard that the hooks came out and just destroyed everyone. The original film pieces to shit. Which the original idea is kind of interesting. I don't know. I agree. It's surprising that they... would just muddle it up so much and i don't know it's so dumb i'm always blown away that like these studios
Have all this money. They pay a person to make this thing. They do all this stuff. They read a script. They know what it's going to be before you start. putting money into it right and then and then later you're gonna be like nah actually we want to
change everything about it. Right. Wait, what? They hired a new editor to come in and be like, no, recut this entire thing. There are three editors on this thing. We're going to reshoot three editors. That's a problem. Yeah, reshot a bunch of stuff. Well, because I was wondering, so, okay, our main guy. I'm going to throw a pinhead earlier. That's important.
Oh my god. So we gotta fuck everything up for that. Right. So fucking stupid. But our main dude... I've never seen him in anything before. Bruce Ramsey, who also... He looks like fucking... I'd like to never see him again in anything. But he kind of looks like a low-grade... Jeff Fahey? No, Frankenfurter. What's his fucking name? Tim Curry? I think so, too. I thought he had a Tim Curry look at the beginning. He's got a Tim Curry-ness to him, but he's got similar eyes.
It's a blurry curry, but it's still there. He's nowhere near as fine as Tim Curry. No, no, no. Tim Curry's fucking magic. This guy... Oh, he's not magic. Oh, he's a terrible actor. I thought this was a horrible casting choice, that dude. So awful. But there was a scene, so when they show him with his dumb bald head, He's wearing a bald cap for a bunch of that.
Not all of it. Not all of it. There's a couple of scenes where he looks good with a shaved head. Yeah. And there's hair. There's real hair. He's got, he's fucking, he's stacked. The 90s is a wig, right? That thing looks so stupid. But the way they shot it with the bald cap, you can see his hair under the bald cap. And then the spray-painted hair.
It's the worst fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. And I'm like, who the fuck thought this was better than what Kevin Yeager was trying to do? That wasn't the reshoots. I guarantee that's the reshoots. Because he probably grew some hair for another role. And he's like, I'm going to cut my hair again. Yeah. So when he had his like shaved head that was made for the movie, it looked great. And it was maybe 45 seconds of his space scenes. Yeah.
They cut so much stuff out of this too. Like there was, there was scenes of like aristocratic, like centibites. They've had like the white hair powder wigs and shit. I would have loved to have seen that shit. Dude, show me that. Check this out. I would love to see that. You have photos. I got a photo. Oh, fuck yeah. I got a singular. Because that character, that guy who like summoned the demon in the beginning. Right.
I thought that dude was so good and so fucking creepy. That's the only creepy thing in the whole fucking movie is that dude's performance. He was amazing. Adam Scott, not so scary, but still fun to see Adam Scott. He looks so crazy. He's like 21 years old or something. Wait, these are going to be the Cenobites? These are the Cenobites with the powder wigs. And there's a Candyman looking guy with a kind of a chatterer mouth. Uh-huh. Fuck yeah. And there's like... Look at them. Regardless, like...
He's got a skull mask. He's in Slipknot. The thing that you want from a Hellraiser movie, besides obviously Pinhead, but like... Pinhead isn't always like the producers always think that Pinhead is like the be all end all of like Hellraiser movies. And yes, You've got to have Pinhead. Yes. Because he's the one that talks. Yeah, but the fun of it is all the other crazy fucking Cenobites that you get. The demons.
And so like by neutering it and taking out a bunch of demons, like is the dumbest move ever. And those guys are really like creepy as is. That look to me is already. Terrifying. Yeah, super people. You've got to do a whole lot, but to make them, you know, demons, oh, god damn, I'm fucking there for that. Well, you had that whole scene at the beginning. Why not just have those guys in it for a minute, and then you're like, oh, this is...
100% better because there's all these crazy fucking demons in here. Maybe they sucked so bad. They might have sucked bad, but I think the studio sucked bad. Could they have sucked any worse than the Sun Bites we did get?
Fucking shit. I did enjoy Homegirl as a Cenobite. Angelique? She's cool. I feel like she's very known as far as the Cenobites go. She's one of the more well-known because she's... just like as far as like in canon or like in culture like she's got a great look like the head peeled off and stuff totally it looks fucking sick skull exposed yeah I do think it's more effective like when you do get in Hellraiser 2 when you see Doug Bradley before he's actually like the priest. Right.
That adds a level. You're like, oh, I saw him before. He wasn't always this way. He's not just some random conjured person. He was a human before. Yeah, exactly. Which means that he was a human in World War I. I was going to say, the timeline doesn't make sense. Because technically Angelique would have been a demon before he was. And I think that's... Running hell, quote unquote. Right. I don't know if she's running it, but she's definitely... He makes reference to her like, oh, we've never...
met, but she's like a legend to Pinhead. Yeah, she's like the dopest person in marketing, and then she's been gone for a minute, and she's back, and he's like, okay, I've been the new guy for a minute, but it's so weird. I guess they have photos in hell. I know. They got homework. They got photos. You got to learn your hell history. I think in the same way that in heaven...
You get your own little room to fart in and watch movies and hang out with all your old pets. Ah, heaven. Huffing your cotton candy. poofs you're up there like eating them too like i want to see you know i just and snacking i want to i want to see I just want to see pretty in pink, but I just want to see it. Make a version for me, heaven, Jesus Christ in heaven, oh Lord. Make a version for me that...
That's 25 hours long. I'm just going to sit here and show me all the backstory. Show me when Andy has to go to the toilet. Show me when Harry Dean Stanton is fucking shaven. Show me more. Just expand it for me. Why not? It's the, it's boundless. Yeah. Everything, anything's possible. I think the same thing is in hell. So they're like, oh, let's go, let's go check back who was doing this before us. Oh, she fine. That's, that's probably what it was. Like a big screen in hell, but it's like.
The farts are worse. That's the only difference. It's darker and the farts are grosser. You still get all the sick shit. Yeah. It's weird that we don't get any of the other tradish Cenobites in this. Yeah. That's weird. They'll get laid off or what? Usually you get a Butterball, a Chatterer, and Homegirl. Yeah. Because in 3, we didn't really get them either. We had a bunch of new ones. Seedy face. Yeah, I thought they were in there, though. Wasn't Chatterer in there?
I feel like the woman one with the With the stuff through her cheeks is almost always there. She wasn't in the third one either. She wasn't in the third one? Because we got the girl with the cigarette in her throat. Video camera head. Video camera guy. CD guy. CD face. The bartender guy. Right. The bartender guy.
fucking hell. Yeah. And then, and then the guy had like a, some kind of motor in his head. He was like, he was the guy that like owned the club. Right. But for some reason he had like this weird motor. Yeah. Jack in his head up. I don't know. That was dumb. But, uh, So I think they kind of went with that, like, oh, every new sequel we have a...
new Cenobites. We see how they get made. We've got to keep Pinhead, though, because the kids like Pinhead. What do you think about that? Do you think he needs to be in every one? Like, for example, Texas Chainsaw, is it really a Leatherface movie or is it the family the important thing? Right, and that's very much argued all the time, right? Like, the family is doing most of the evil shit, kind of perpetuating Leatherface, doing his shit.
all that. I do think like, yeah, it's Hellraiser. You were expecting the Hellpriest. Because I know in the first movie, they didn't really expect him to take off, kind of like he did in the poster boy for everything. That wasn't really...
Intended. Yeah. He was kind of equal parts of all the rest of those guys. Maybe even less. He shows up last and he dies first. That's true. That's true. But then everybody was like, I like him. He's got pins. And when they show the recap in the second movie, which I do love.
They always show a recap, at least in that first movie. For the second movie, they show Pinhead's... The only one they really feature, and he dies last in the recap. Yeah, in the recap. So, like... they're alive they're like we have a we have a thing here this guy talks he's a fucking badass he's got all the sickest lines and in this movie he's got always the sickest lines i mean his look is the best i It's amazing. It looks pretty budge in this movie, though.
He can't... I mean, like, how many years has it been and he's still wearing the same outfit? What's going on here? You don't have to change. That's religious wear, Jeff. Oh, buddy. Didn't I even have a nice new shiny pin anywhere? Nothing? Just the same old shit? I thought the makeup looked... It did look bad. It was kind of what happened with Freddie when Robert Englund was over it and wanted to have a quicker...
Right. Maybe you start making one big sloppy piece and it doesn't really look as good. Less detail, like, you know. What about sloppy peas? But, like, but it's funny because, like,
you notice like there's weird things where like the pins are like in weird areas where they're like where you're looking at me like those are kind of like blocking your eyeline now which they weren't used to used to do that and then I'm like there's not enough down by your mouth anymore he's not really diced anymore like he used to have split skin and they didn't really have the money for that yeah yeah because it's all one piece now right like those were all separate like pieces and stuff
It's not that it looks horrible. No shade to Kevin Yeager because we obviously know he can do everything. Was he doing the effects though? He didn't do any effects. The chatter dog, I think. Yeah, he did the chatter dog. That's pretty good. I like the chatter dog. Chatter Dog's funny, but it's like, well, where's the chatterer? Like, why you gotta have a dog?
exactly did they get laid off like what does it feel like to be to be the priest he's like all my homies are gone is there like is there just like a dozen different like scenarios happening with with cubes across like the world i should hope so or the universe because it seemed like when they were up in space for the 20 minutes we were in it in this movie pinhead's like talking about earth like it's a fucking totally like
a realm unto itself which it is but like but for hell it's like not like in the basement you know the hell is just like somewhere else so he's like
Oh, the planet Earth is like blah, blah, blah. It's my favorite planet of all the ones because it's got... actual things that can suffer i guess yeah the rest of it is just more like farts right yeah like oh i gotta go torment the farts on mars like tell me other planets priest that you got going on if because i we're not talking obviously they don't go have
There's not like an animal hell with pinhead there. Maybe that's where he got Chad or a dog. Maybe. I don't know. It's weird that that dog is supposed to be like... died in a car accident and they were supposed to be somehow spliced together. I did not read that at all. You read it afterwards. I read the idea, but when it shows up on screen... That doesn't translate. Not at all. You don't get that.
you know, that story. Yeah. No, that's just by looking at it. It's just like, what? And it's weird too. Cause we just get that dog. So I'm like, and it has like a metal jaw. And you're like, huh? Yeah. I think it barely opened. You're like, how is that thing attacking? Yeah. Which I like. I like who's a shivering guy. I like a shivering, fast shivering thing that scares me. Yeah, it is scary, yeah. But we know what happened to Pinhead, because we've seen that in the past movies.
We see what happened to these two stupid fucking twins. They get turned into these dipshits. So in the second one, they got zapped and turned back to normal. I think that's... Chatterer and Butterball. They all got turned. I forgot about that. And then the third one, they reincarnated fucking Pinhead in some other weird way. They didn't get it. They thought he was going home.
Yeah. I'm going to Disneyland. Nope. You're going back to work, fool. He's going to be like a kid or something. Oh, my God. That's right. Did it make any sense? No sense. So dumb. Yeah. Speaking of fucking dumb kids. That's Jason Goes to Manhattan. That's Kane Hodder shivering in a little...
That's a little boy, Jason, who's not even a mutant. Give me a break. The continuity is pretty weird and thin here. Even the one on this, it sort of continues three a little bit. Right, a little bit. Do you remember on a three draw? I don't remember the end of... Oh, of course it continues, but I don't remember... So at the end, they're in some construction zone, and she takes the box and puts it in cement.
And then later on the cuts to like later on where a building was built there and it's all like lament configurations styled out. So I guess that's supposed to be this building in this movie. I love that. And then when she punches the wall, she grabs the box back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I thought there was also... That's kind of cool because that wasn't...
interesting little hook at the end of three. Oh, that's fucking rad. That's scary. That is great. I love the idea that the box is just like a starter kit and the building is like a major thing. You're going to open this huge portal instead of this thing. You can just fart through. Do you really need that, though? Everyone's going to die. They're going to get to you soon enough. You don't have to open a big old portal. We're good. How many people die every day?
And I guarantee like 90% were going to hell anyway. So you're good. You're fine. The whole thing about like hell, like in so many movies, like trying to open a portal to hell so that they could come through and like take over the world. It's like.
Y'all already took over the world. Look around. We're in hell. This is hell. We're living in hell. Everyone here, if there was a hell, everyone's going. Dude, we're all going. You're probably more people than you can handle right now. You only have like... Five deep in your crew. Yeah, you got a huge HR problem, dude. You got like four centibytes for all the folks that are coming through? Yeah. You're in trouble. Maybe you're just winging it now. Look at this two-faced...
You know, twin thing? What the fuck is that? He'll turn anybody into a Cenobite. Maybe he's just a regional priest. That's what I think. That's what I think. I think there's other priests. Or maybe there's multiple... Hellpriests. There's gotta be. There's more. It's not just one. I mean, there's like a pope, right, I guess, but there's more priests. And he calls her a princess, which I think is a little demeaning because, like,
He gets to be the fucking hell priest, but she's only the princess? She should be the queen, right? Well, the priest isn't a king. He's just a priest. That's true. He's hell king, though. I don't know if he is. I think I can't I want to see Hell King I mean the devil she does yeah that's the devil yeah she does mention like something about like you know the higher ups right like
It's still, yeah, it's just silly that we never get to that. And when we did get to hell, it's a fucking labyrinth of just nothing. It's concrete coldness. You're talking about part two. Part two. Yes. And it's the only time we really get to see hell. And it's a snooze fest. Actually, that tracks also. An office job and a snooze fest. Yeah, right. For sure. So it's such a bummer. It is. But I don't know. I liked it. you know the toy maker I don't whatever but I just
That whole part of the movie I thought was actually kind of good and kind of interesting. The 18th century shit. The 18th century shit. Like, I don't know, the weird ritual shit was spooky. Oh, yeah. I don't know. The demon was pretty cool. Everything else was... I just resented it because I came in here thinking you were going to be in space. Way the other direction. We're like, oh, no, we're not only not in space. We're also in powdered wig time.
How did this happen? I didn't want to watch a powder wig movie. I got such a fucking... Candelabra fucking hammer horror all of a sudden. Shit. It was such a bummer. I was like, what the fuck? You know what that's kind of cool about this movie, though? Like I liked having a variety in a movie and having powdered wigs. And outer space in the same movie. I can't think of another time that's happened. And the 90s. And the 90s.
Smack in the middle. We get the mom, the gal from Nightmare 2. Kim Myers. She's a horror icon to me, so I'm fucking stoked. It was cool to see her. She, of course, does nothing. She's, like, the most, like, useless character in the whole movie. Same with the boy. He's a horror icon. Shut up. I can't understand the straight face. Oh, my God. I can't understand the straight face. Cortland Mead. A.K.A. the mouth. Cortland fucking Mead. He was younger in this than he was in The Shining.
Yeah, he had fully developed into the breathing apparatus that he is in the show. Dude, that little fucking... If you slap a fucking bowl cut on Mac and me, that's what that could be. A hundred percent, Josh. You fucking nailed it, dude. Oh my god. You fucking nailed it. fucking insane looking dude he was so many roles around this time. It's crazy.
fucking kid. Was he like on like magazines? Like fucking those little teeny bopper magazines? Oh my god. Could you imagine? No way. There's no way. He just closed up his mouth. It's like... It's those cheeks, man. Those cheeks got him the job. Mario Lopez's abs. Here's Courtland Mead's fucking jaw. I was waiting for this. I was ready for this. But I'll tell you the image of him in essentially the lap of Pinhead, like just tucked into Pinhead was pretty killer.
And he's like, let's play with his hair and shit. Is it just every priest likes to diddle a fucking little? Dude, Pinhead, take a fucking pin out and pop priest things. Those inflated cheeks and pop them with one of them. Maybe his mouth would close finally. Exactly. What would Cortland Mead Cenobite be? It's just these giant cheeks filled with fucking nuts. And then he inhales everyone. Yeah, they puff up his cheeks into his inflated head.
Yeah. And it's all mouth and just teeny tiny bowl cut sitting on top. It looks like a yarmulke. Yeah. Just hella tight. Hella tight. Oh, just an inflated head. And he's got like leather pajamas. Like a leather onesie with the feet footies on it. But the butt's bare. The butt's bare. And it's got strips of skin taken off. It's got two butt entrances. He's got two butts. He's got two butts. One on his neck. One on his face. One above his neck facing front.
i love the butt face on a bite yeah that fucking kid man when i saw him i like i'm like trying to watch it quietly like And my family's trying to go to sleep and he comes on screen. I was like, Oh, I watched it alongside Sarah, who was reading a book.
And she was like, Adam Scott pops on looking like a straight fucking infant. That dude looks so weird as an 18-year-old. In long hair. Yeah. Long hair. Almost unrecognizable at first, totally. Just a glazed look. Sarah stops, shakes her earplugs out, goes, Adam Scott. I said, I know. She goes, what are you watching? I said, Hellraiser Space. Kind of. Hellraiser, powdered wig, space, 90s. She's like, why is this a space? I'm like, it's weird. I don't know. This is the beginning.
What's so funny is that that was one of his first gigs, and he was so like... in a movie oh fuck yeah and then like so so much so that when the sequel the next Hellraiser movie came out he even went and like auditioned hoping that they would remember him for the other movie remember me and of course he didn't get hired but he was just like trying he was like I was in the other one But I remember I had read something somewhere that...
He totally forgot about it. And he popped up and I was blown away. I completely forgot he was in this too. We had just recently talked about Cortland Mead being in this movie and I fully forgot until he popped on screen. I was like, oh my God. That I did remember. I couldn't remember. Every time I talked about it, I did.
forget him until I see him again I totally forgot fucking Kim Myers was in this though I was very happy yeah I love seeing her wish she would have like got to do something she fingered the box Yeah. She's a genius. She figured it out in a second. In two seconds. She had a blast, fools. Not even to get stuck with fucking hooks. Right. Yeah, she was great. All those other fucking idiots are like, she saved the day.
The whole scene with Angelique getting the fucking dumbass from the party to go down to the basement with her. Oh, my God. Gets naked and has them play with their box. But then I don't understand what even happens in, like, the box shoots out.
Chains and then took them back? To Angelique or whatever her name is, and then it just explodes, and then Pinhead yells, and then cut to black, and you're like, what? What happened? There's a little too much cut in the black. Those fades, I'm not sure if the fades were the same for your copy, but... They were just like too quick. They were like commercial break fades.
You might have seen the commercial. I might have seen the... I was watching it on some terrible streaming service. No commercials, though. That was nice. There's just room for them. They just had some real quick crossfades. I'm like, oh, that was abrupt.
I mean, three editors. Yeah, three editors. And they're trying to make some kind of story happen. And they got rid of a bunch of stuff, and they shoehorned Peanhead into it way earlier than it was supposed to be. And then they were kind of flirting with it. each other a little bit. That's kind of weird. I think they're supposed to be more enemies. Yeah, yeah, because that was the way it was written. I think that I would have been just fine with seeing Pinhead way later in the movie.
I'm totally right. Cause when, when he does show up, you want it to be like monumental. You want it to be like, Oh shit, we're fucked. Pinhead's here. Right. When he shows up in these movies now, it's like, It's just like, oh, dad's mad. You know? Right. What's he going to do, though? He's not doing anything. He doesn't do shit. He never does anything. No, he talks a lot.
He looks a little bit scary. Chains do most of the work. And the box does most of the work. Heavy lifters in hell are chains, unfortunately. Have we ever seen Pinhead actually kill anybody? I mean, he shoots the chains with his fucking mind. Yeah, he's using his mind. The power of hell wields a weapon. We never see him take a knife from his belt and like...
Cut somebody. He cuts Angelique's chest with a little finger hook in this one. And he has little fingy claws. Yeah, that was nice. That was funny. That's a new addition. That's weird. But yeah, he draws a little blood with her, but... She doesn't care. That's not her skin anyways. Yeah. Right. Whatever. So yeah, I liked seeing Angelique before she was a demon. She's just like some cool old...
1700s hooker. I really love the way that that... I love how that look where the skin is fucking hung up. Oh, yeah. And it starts getting filled up with a body. Yeah. Oh, my God. With a demon. Yeah. A fucking demon. It's so fucking sick. It looks dope. I'm like...
It looks sick just hanging there, but once you start seeing it getting filled out by the demon... I bet they had more gore and shit, too, that they cut out. I bet that was even... crazier scene totally it feels like something was missing yeah yeah i like that that early shit man why did the guy have a bunch of weird rotted food He's a fucking freak. The decadence of old, like, yeah.
he's just like rich decadence he's just like why not oh yeah so having too much food and you just don't I had all the food you know it's like gorging yourself but you can't eat that much food so it's like wasteful it's being wasteful You know, that's a sin. You're going to hell. Gluttony. When the toymaker came back and he's trying to grab the box and that's covered in maggots, but there's also a couple of big fat...
Green worms. Green worms. Dude, just grabbed off the fucking lettuce outside. Like, I'm not afraid of any of these things. What the fuck? Caterpillars. I'm way more scared of that. Also, like... I think it looks nice. Dude, you are going so fucking slow. Get the box and get out. Like, why you gotta wait? Like, they're having their little fucking little... S&M shindig over here. Let them do their thing. Get the fuck out of here. Grab and get the fuck. It's his fault. He's dead.
Every time. That guy can't stay alive. it's just like a fucking back to the future thing whereas every family member looks exactly like him it's pretty weird what is that like you just keep fucking someone that looks like your mom every generation like what the fuck is happening well it was also weird that whole thing with like angelique was like she just she's obviously just lying to him but like
I had to think back. I was like, wait, did they? Maybe they skipped a couple generations that they actually were good together. Maybe they were. Or maybe something happened that got cut out because we only saw her. Just fucking kill him. Except in his fantasies and his dreams in the 90s. Right. So you're really good in your dreams. Maybe that's what she's talking about. Which is kind of... Maybe, yeah. Maybe that's actually... Yeah. Dude, how about his...
This old lady in the beginning throwing such shade at his toy. It's like, what's it do? Oh, wait, let me show you. That's all it does? That's it? Oh, so it does nothing? Oh, it does nothing then. Projection? Okay. Great job. So sick. So sick. At least Kim Myers is like stoked on what he was doing and stuff.
Which is what? Until one point. What is he doing? Giving a bad speech and having a building. There was an entire art gallery that looked like a lament configuration show a bunch of artists decided to do some hellraiser art come check it out yeah you know and it was just like and he I don't know. I don't even know what. Everything's moving like a clock. I don't know. It just doesn't make sense. If those guys keep dying too, who's keeping the bloodline informed?
Well, they all have kids before they die. Yeah, they had dead kids, but the kid wasn't even born yet. They all have a son that looks just, it's going to be just like them. Like, like, like the merchant. The blood remembers. Oh, right. The blood remembers. Thanks, blood. I don't know. I don't know if it does. Uncle Blood told me. Uncle Blood. was there for a fucking speech by Pinhead. So he got the gist of it. I think he passed.
Pass it on to his... He'll remember for sure. He's going to remember. He might remember this. That's going to be a hard one to forget. The hill priest was kissing, kissing, and I was missing, missing. And my dad was missing, missing his head. Which was kind of fucking sick, right? Yeah. Out of all the kills, I think I like that one the best. Fuck yeah. It was good. Also, because that kid had to watch his dad get fucking halved. I liked it.
I mean, I do think I would have loved to have seen Kevin Yeager's version because you know it would have been way more brutal. Way crazier. The effects would have been all there. You would have had more Cenobites. And hopefully it would have made some more sense than this. I do think it would have made sense way more. These movies make.
they you're there you can excuse them for not making enough like too much sense it's like trans-dimensional hell people you don't have to like make sense of it just like Make it so that the movie itself flows in a way that isn't a... Like jarringly bad. Or just make it scary. Make it scary, make it gory. That's what you gotta do. How much money did they fucking make off the first one? Enough to make all these sequels and then you're gonna cut back on the gore? Look, it already made money.
That's like the goriest movie I've ever seen. Yeah, go take a look. There's just a dude with no skin in all of the movies. Exactly. 100%. Skin dad is chilling. I did love that one. fucking cop when he lost all his skin. They should have showed more of him. Yeah, and of course they just cut to black. That looks so sick for one second. You mean the space cop? Is that what they are? Who are they?
Yeah, I don't know. They didn't stab what that was or who that was. Yeah, they were coming to like take ownership over because I guess he had... How'd they get on his ship? Beam? Well, I think it's just how you do it in space movies. They docked in the fucking space dock. Yeah. Oh. In the very beginning, they docked in the center of it.
it's so dumb because apparently he built this crazy spaceship that is a fucking box a box right which i kind of like i thought that was pretty simple at the end where it fucking closes up like oh yeah yeah like that i mean yeah like the CG could use a little help, but like, I kind of had an idea. Like I was like, okay, this is, it's a flat,
Well, you're a designer. He knows these shapes. I've designed boxes before. I'm like, that looks like... I see a six-panel box floating in his face. Spread out. But it's so funny that like... he's talking about this trap like it took How many generations for this to finally work? Right. Where you can trap light or something forever? Yeah, or just make it so that the light refracts long enough to...
Because I guess they were trying to do it and it wouldn't last long enough, right? It was so dumb. I don't really understand what that was supposed to be. The dumb drawing that just has a bunch of squiggles for the light and then the square. I like the squiggles. The squiggles is the part I did like.
But I don't like that the guy has zero idea what he's doing and still doing it. Of course. Of course. Like, who is he? Is it divine? Is he the hand of God? The blood knows, Josh. He's the one in the blood. Uncle Blood, get on the computer. Uncle Blood is related to Skin Dad. He's his brother. When Angelique's like, you've got work to do, get on them. She doesn't even know what it's called. get on the thing and do the stuff. You know, you're like, what?
And he's just like, clickety-clack, clickety-clack. You don't know what you're doing. You couldn't do it. A second ago, he said he didn't know. Yeah. You still don't know. I'm just guessing. Clickety-clack, clickety-clack, trying to save my kid's mouth. Like, let that kid go. Get a different one. This one, you could lose this one. You can grow a new kid pretty quick. Finhead's overestimating the tragedy of losing that kid. That particular kid.
Yeah. I think it's fine. We can sacrifice Cortland meat to the universe. How great would that have been if you just like hold him and it's like, yeah, you want your kid back? I'm good. No. You can have him. We can make another one. Just give me her. Please give me fine as hell, Kim Myers, but don't take Cortland Mead away. But Cortland Mead, it's funny when you have like a Kim Myers who's like...
full on just blazing redhead. Like those genes are strong as fuck. You have a kid, that kid's going to be a ginger. I'm sorry, but it's going to happen. Like, Yeah, hopefully. Little fucking Blurry Curry's DNA is not doing nothing. You got Kim Meyers fucking doing all the heavy lifting. So, it's just funny, and you're like, oh, this is my kid. I'm like, no, it's not.
That's not your fucking kid. You never know. I don't know. The diversity of DNA is a magical thing. I have a doctor, Josh. Dr. Blood. Uncle Dr. Blood to you. Uncle Dr. Yeah. Something about the 90s and spaceships, though, it all looks like a fucking... Or a dungeon. The way it even sounds. It sounds like that whole metal. And metallic. Why? Why? Why did they think the future was going to be so uncomfortable? So cold. So hollow.
Yeah, well. You think if you're going to be in space for a super long amount of time, you would have some cushions? I think you at least have cushions. You want to have some cushions. Keep things dry is probably important. Probably some plastic. Maybe a little bit of plastic. Lightweight. I was unaware, and this is me. You just want him to be super depressed while stuck inside with no sun. Yeah, and no people. And no food. It's probably best to make him go crazy immediately.
No, like this is me not being a doctor, but like I was learned recently about how. rough it is for your body when you're at...
in space for like a long period of time. Oh, it's very bad. We've learned from these people that were just stuck in space for months and months and they weren't supposed to be there for like a week or something like that. Yeah, your body atrophies when you're not using the muscles and the shit. They're all, they rolled them out. They're all skeletons in wheelchairs. Straight up fucking. Oh, yeah. I was like.
Gravity, your art bodies are designed for gravity to help you build mass by resisting gravity. Like we've evolved with gravity on earth. So like, I'm like thinking about like all these movies, every movie we've ever seen where there's like long periods of space and all this stuff, like.
it's definitely like there's a bunch of shit you got all got to figure out before that makes sense artificial gravity for sure yeah yeah sure and like and all these movies of course they have that in the spaceships and stuff but like But not comfort. We haven't figured that out. We've got that smart. I mean, what you do instead is you have your main guy who builds a ship. He's more like a monk. He's eschewed comfort. and desires he just is in a black room with his power gloves and his
And his avatar off there. Everything's so sharp, too. Why is everything so sharp? It's dangerous. It's a dangerous place to be. Don't put a kid around there. You can't have a kid in space. You shouldn't even have a leprechaun in space. It's like a little kid. You don't want to have them. They're right at head level for everything that's sharp. Yeah.
Poor Leprechaun is going to get in trouble, I think. Are you talking about Cortland Meat or are you talking about... I'm talking about Cortland Meat and Leprechaun when we get to him. Oh, Leprechaun, Leprechaun. He's going to be running around space with eye level to a bunch of sharp shit. Yeah. yeah yeah we'll see how that goes maybe that's the maybe like zero gravity for leprechaun is actually very sick you just fly up to your face floating around
Yeah. I don't know. I feel very taken advantage of with the sales pitch for this movie. I mean, it was Hellraiser in space a little bit. I wish the poster just said that Hellraiser in space and it's like real small a little bit that's the thing like I didn't know which one was Hellraiser in space because it's not called in space right Leprechaun is called Leprechaun in space yeah yeah so that like That is the only one that's called In Space, right? Jason X. Yeah.
Right. That was entirely in space. Yeah. No. Isn't it? The future in space. Oh, they do show something. Are you talking about the holodeck stuff? No, but the beginning of the movie is not in space. They shoot him in space eventually. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. Because that's when they reconstitute him. I've only seen it the one time, but I liked it.
I like that movie. I hate that movie. We'll get there. I can't wait to talk about it. I can't believe that you like fucking hell goes to hell better than that one. That's what we definitely got to talk about. I like that movie too. Fucking hell. it fucking goes to hell that's the thing like I had been sitting here with you guys
Jason X is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. I hate it so much. The other one says, Jason Goes to Hell is the worst piece of shit. And I watched them, and they're both Friday the 13th movies, and I was pleased. I was like, these aren't the worst. They're not great Friday the 13th movies, but they're...
I actually like them more than other ones that I won't even talk about because I don't want to try and make anybody mad in the world. We'll get there. We'll talk about them. We will. Yeah, I have lots to say. I'm glad now we can say it. So kind of like this is essentially... Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X together, but with Pinhead instead of... Yeah, kind of. A little bit. Because a lot of people... A little bit.
I don't think that Pinhead should be able to die, though. No. He dies every time. Right, because how many movies? There's six more after this? Yeah. But they are the past. This is way the future. Oh, right, right. See, if this is him actually dying, like if he actually goes away and is never reborn... Is that my guts? Uh-oh. Excuse me, I'm leaving. Is that my guts? Is that your gods or my gods? If Pinhead actually dies in the year 2170, whatever. 2127. 2127.
then we can still make a hundred more pinhead movies that take place before 21, 27. Right. You know, that's really, that's a far shoot. Yeah. I just feel like that's bogus. If you could die. It's like that guy. And it's also kind of buggy so you can get trapped in rooms.
Exactly. That's very dumb. You're a fucking hell priest. You should be able to walk through anything, teleport wherever you want. And he does. In every other movie, right? In every movie, he fucking pulls a fucking... wall apart and he walks right through it.
How is this little fucking dungeon going to keep him from anything? I would love it if he actually just pulled apart a space wall and then blew up the entire ship. But then just grab everyone with a hook and they won't be able to leave. Right, right. Well, I thought when he pulls the prank on him, he's like, I'm a hologram. And then fucking Pinhead is like flabbergasted. He's just like, where'd you go?
Like, it's so silly. It's like you haven't been a lot, you know, like you've been around watching Earth and torturing people this whole time. You didn't know about holograms yet. Also, you would think that he could sense whether or not something was a real life form or not. You're right. Oh, yeah. I can smell your pain or some bullshit. Yeah, totally. That's exactly what Pinhead said. I can smell your pain. I can smell your pain. Yeah.
The fact that when they were finally, when he's just like, boop, disappears, Pinhead's like, what? And then fucking they're in the spaceship. I was so hoping that Pinhead would just be like, whoop, in the spaceship with them. Yeah. Why not? Where are you guys going? Why couldn't you? Honestly, why couldn't you do that? Don't leave without me. And just hooks everywhere. Like, just bleed off. Just tear the fucking ship apart. It'd be so sick.
He's a fucking hill priest, dude. He's not bound by anything. What are you talking about? How is he mad about anything? I feel like he's the kind of guy who's seen it all. How is he surprised or mad? Yeah, you shouldn't get surprised for sure. And also, doesn't he enjoy kind of being tortured? Isn't that kind of nice? Be like, oh, you got me. Yeah, for sure. That feels so bad, so good, so bad. I don't know if I love the idea that the Earth is right there either.
I know, it's so close. You're just right outside of the orbit. It's so close. They're gonna get there like an hour. Deep space or anything. It's just like... I'm gonna go build a thing next to the moon real quick. The moon's very far away compared to where they were sitting. Yeah, it's true. It's so good. So fucking stupid.
Oh, boy. It is weird. It is weird to see him just in that context of being in outer space, looking at the whole Earth. And being like, oh, gosh darn it, I was taking... No, actually, kind of like her. Yeah, no duh. All of your work is done on Earth. exclusively on Earth exclusively
Because no one else in the universe believes in your dumb asses. There's no hell. They don't make toys, so you can't really pop up when you want to. Everyone's sitting there like, oh, Jesus. Who's the fuck Jesus? Who are you talking about? Who's heaven? Who's hell? Who cares? Yeah. And we are also made of gas. Exactly. I wouldn't have a soul for you to torture me, guy. There's no hell. That's a human-ass construct. Yeah. Put all the hooks through my farty, fucking gaseous face.
You dropped this hook into my gas and it didn't do a thing. My gas ass. That would be a thing. The priest showed up on some other lifeforms and might have to be like, what are you even... Get out. He would have no reference for what they are, and they would have no reference for what he is. Do they have their own centimites, like gaseous?
centibites right and there might be some other hill priest that is made of gas and that's on that planet right we haven't even breached we haven't even gone to a different we haven't even taken the hell priest hasn't even visited that we've seen a non-english speaking country I know, right? Even when they're in Paris. Right. They speak perfect English. I want to see. Exactly. Totally. Yeah, what the fuck? So, how?
How are they even going to get to another planet? Yeah, like, fucking, yeah. Pinhead shows up in the Congo. I would love to see Pinhead speaking Spanish or some shit. You know, I'm just going to go ahead and say every English person knows how to speak French.
Because that seems like it. Yeah. It seems like there was people like, oh, second nature. Oh, yeah, of course I speak French. France is right there. I've learned French in school because we're smarter than everybody else. By everybody else, I mean Americans exclusively. I have watched a full interview with Tim Curry. He spoke French.
yeah no shit yeah like perfectly yeah because other countries actually like care about people learning languages but you said about are they learning french are they learning other they're not even learning about diversity hires
You know, like, seriously, the only, like, you saw, I saw the picture, there was one black centibite. I want you to know that. They're evil. One black centibite, and he got cut out of the movie. Cut out of the fucking movie. It's because they're evil, Brian. That is trash. Fully trash. It's so fucking stupid. Every Cenobite we've ever seen, why does a fucking day as long? Because they're evil.
Yeah. It's true. It's true. Why not add white supremacy to the Cenobites fucking white bot? I mean, Pinhead is bald. It is hell. Yeah. He's bald. He's definitely a white supremacist. Yeah. He's a skinhead. Yeah. It is hell. Yeah. So sure. Why not? Add it to the list of crimes. What do you want? What do you want from it? It's the worst, the worst, right? Well, at least it's good to know that anybody of color is in heaven. They all got their little rooms with cotton candy farts.
Everyone's happy. Just hire a fucking white idiot in hell. Got my stereo system, got my fucking movies, got my farts, got my snacks, got my clones of my friends. they didn't make it up there no they didn't make it up there because we didn't make it up there here's the thing If I want to hang out with you, I got my clone of you that does the things I want you to do without offending the actual you. It's selfish for me to want you to be around me the entire time.
enjoying your heaven. Yeah, guys, that sounds like my heaven with you guys. I love you two. You know what's my heaven with you guys? My real heaven is hanging out with you. Right here. Right here. Just Groundhog's name this over and over and over. Doesn't it kind of feel like that sometimes? It does. But a good Groundhog's Day. Yeah.
Oh, but I definitely think that I just, we've talked about this before. Like there's definitely been, we've talked about religion. We've talked about heaven and hell and everything, but like, I still can't understand why. Hell has to be this horrible, cold, bad place. When that guy defected and said, fuck you. Fuck you, angels. Fuck you, God. I'm going to do my own thing. And you're going to make it shitty? You're going to make it a big, fucking cold, sharp... horrible, uncomfortable mess.
Well, he's mad. He's so mad, though. Yeah, but at least make you comfortable for yourself. Even the devil's fucking room is just a stinkier version of what he was on Earth. Get some velvet. You know what I'm saying? I bet he's living it up just fine. You think so? He wants everyone else to suffer as much as he is, but...
He's fine. He's chilling, dude. He made what he wanted. He never shows up, so he must be doing just fine. He doesn't have to work. Yeah. He's stretching his little goat legs on a nice waterbed down in hell. It's chilling, dude. There's a few things that they should have brought back in some of these later movies. And I think Hellraiser 2 kind of nails it.
Like with a giant, with a big tower that shows that instead of, it's got like a beam of light, but it's the beam of darkness, you know? Yeah, yeah. That shit is mind-bendingly cool. Totally cool. Like, that shit, like, bring that back. That should be hell. Show me at least a little clip of hell. Like, have some... mainstays yeah like that are maybe they keep coming back I've only like this is as far as I've seen more people being like actually tortured
Yeah. Like actually like tormented and tortured. Yeah, I feel like it's like. We're just kind of alluding to it all the time in these movies. Yeah, like it's just him talking about how much he loves torturing people and how much I love pain. Won't you prove it then? Yeah. Won't you show me what you like? Show me something. Yeah. But then you know what?
I don't know if I really want to watch an hour of someone being tortured with hooks. It's just Serbian film on fucking repeat. Serbian film, yeah. Serbian film, yeah. We call it the day. Yeah. oh what about the twins like he twists them together like fucking taffy or whatever right the taffy twins it's like the double mint twins but then like
Immediately, they split apart. I thought that was so dumb, too. I'm like, we don't want to ever be apart. That's your worst fear. Cool. We're going to taffy these guys together. And then you're going to break them apart to kill other people? Only to squish another guy within you. Absorb?
Well, yeah, what? Just turn around and have your double butt absorb them. You got two butts back there. Yeah, or one big one. I don't understand that kill. I don't understand that. What was that? I don't understand that whole thing. Why would they split apart? all magically and then squished back together with a guy in the middle.
What's his real name? Doug Bradley? Doug Bradley, yeah. The actor. I think it's that. The two security guards both had the same name tag. It said Bradley, both of them. That's cute, I guess. There's no confusing them as being brothers. Or clones. They're either brothers or they're clones. But was it that only one of them was hired?
So they have one outfit, one name tag. Both last names are Bradley, I guess. Wait, is that with their first name? I think it's their first name is on your thing. Wait, did you say only one of them was hired? Is that part of the joke? No, I'm asking. Because that's what twins do, right? All twins do that, right?
they all you you one of your siblings goes to a job gets the job then you both take turns working that job yeah you get a boyfriend I take turns fucking your boyfriend and he doesn't even know twins are evil that's why they're from hell that's how it goes they share a soul and that soul is an evil soul and the more Brothers, especially identical. Especially identical. If you're an identical twin...
You are just evil at the core. And if you're a triplet, oh my God, that's diluted. Less soul, yeah. That's a fact. What's the twin movie that Cronenberg did? Dead Ringers. Yeah. I want to watch that again. They made a... series of it with women though, right? Yeah, with Rachel Yeah, what's her name? Vice? Yes.
Gosh. I hear it's great. Really? I hear it's great, yeah. She's cool. I like her. Yeah, I want to watch it again. But yeah, twins are evil. Yeah, twins. It's fact. Sorry, twins. I have never seen more identical twins, though, as those two men. I thought it was a trick. I thought it was a camera trick. I was like, no, it's too good a camera trick. They gotta be twins. Yeah, the CG wasn't that good back then. No, it was not. Do you think that they...
Because there was a couple scenes with the light going behind Pinhead's head where I was like, that looks like it's 1975. That looks really bad. These sets look... so wickedly cheap it's crazy i feel like like any of the stuff in the space thing was like you go probably rent
a space hallway to run down somewhere in hollywood yeah a little dungeon that's set it's like a warehouse that's got like a space level yeah yeah it sounds hollow as fuck i hate that hollow metal sound i know you too dude i hate it so much i'm like every fucking space movie's gotta have that Why? Why do they think the future was going to be so shitty? Put a fucking rug down here, yo. Let's just wait. We'll wait and see. It might be.
There better be a rug somewhere in one of these other space movies. Put a rug down in the space station. I just want a fucking rug. If I fell... Everything is teeth. The whole ground is teeth. If you put a rug down, then you're good. Yeah, you could tumble. Yeah. Also, if I get out of bed, I don't want to have my feet on that cold space floor. Give me a rug. Usually the bedroom is actually comfortable with light. Kind of. And if you feel it's a little warm, it's got a little... going.
I love space tropes. They're so dumb. Because, like, none of them are real. Yeah. None of that shit's fucking real. Did you see the fucking cell he was in? It was a cell of light. Light bars. Oh, my God. Did you guys notice that? I didn't notice it. They flip a switch and turn off the lights and he walks out of the cell.
You didn't see that? How did he miss that? I don't know. It was so fucking stupid. When they were interrogating him? Just at the end. At the end, he was behind just beams of light, which is clearly a cell. The toy maker? Or the guy at the end, the baldy?
What? And then the chick that helps him get off the space station, she just flips a switch and the lights turn off and he just walks out freely. I don't know how I missed that. I didn't even notice that. I was like, whoa, that was cheap. It's six flashlights in the floor.
Some smoke machine? Yeah, a smoke machine. That's basically what it was. Well, that's kind of cool, though. That's kind of futuristic. That wasn't cool enough that you guys even noticed shit. Do I have to watch it again now to see the beams of light? Y'all didn't even notice it. That's how stupid it looks. You didn't pay attention. That was Kevin Yeager being thrifty. Cool lighting trick. Yeah.
It was bad. I think this might be the best out of the bunch of this month. That's my take. Really? See, I already know that Jason X is the one I like. He preferred Jason X to this. To this? Hell yes! Hell yes. I like the concepts of this. I think it's got like some really cool ideas. Like the building.
The building is a great idea, but of course now I'm remembering, like, when I was like, I thought I was just hearing about the building, but now I'm remembering that the building is in the end of three, which we reviewed.
There's no way Leprechaun or Critters is going to beat this. There's no fucking way. Oh, I don't think that. I know. The two big dogs of the Hellraiser and Jason X. We did this on purpose. We bookended those because we knew at least those were going to be somewhat solid just because there was a Jason and a pin hit. That's the only reason. Nobody...
I mean, there's not any named critters. There might be a Baldy or something like that, but there's actually no named critters. And then we have Leprechaun, who doesn't even have a fucking name, right? Does he have a name? Or just Leprechaun. You might have a name. We'll find out. I don't know. I can't remember the first movie. Fucking Harky Malarkey. You don't remember? Oh, I like the first movie.
I love we're just skipping to four because we don't care. I don't. I don't care. Did we watch two? I thought we watched two. No, remember we watched one where we was zipping around that little fucking car. Was that one? That was one. Jennifer Aniston. Fuck. So I'm fine with fast forwarding to four.
Yeah. Although I'm hoping for, I've been told that there's one movie where he teleports into somebody and it has to be four. They're in space. I'm sure there's teleportation. He teleports in one and he's on a farm. Sure, but like into the farm. Like he chooses to like put himself inside of a man. I love it. That's dope. That doesn't have to be, that can be an earthly thing. I think it might work better on earth. Sure.
Because of the gravity thing. That's true. Yeah. You might end up with your head in the butt or something if you're not careful. You're going to just taste butt. Ow, that was butt. I teleported my lips into your butt on accident. I kind of want to watch.
Well, we'll see. I'm happy to watch another Leprechaun movie. Maybe it's going to be fun. I'm going to use that audio at some point in the Leprechaun episode. I'm not happy to watch them all. I'm happy to watch another one. And if it's a space one I got to watch, then it's the space one I got to watch. It'll be fine. I love Warwick Davis. That's why I always hate hating on... leprechaun and like those new leprechauns without Warwick Davis I'm like why does anyone care
It's like a Hellraiser without Doug Bradley. Why does anyone care? I only care because I know there's a Warwick Davis under three inches of fucking foam latex right there. That's the only reason I'm tuning in even remotely. And it's his voice. Yeah. Now there is a movie that Kevin Yeager worked on that I'm really interested in.
And I don't know why it's going to be the most dog shit 90s, horrible dog shit piece of dog shit. Say that. Say what? 90s now? Yeah. It's a dog shit salad. You might have seen it. Okay. Shoot. Rumpelstilts. I saw a trailer from Rumpelstiltskin and... Let me tell you. Yeah? Old B-Dog is interesting. B-Dog. Oh, no. I was like, wait a second. I mean, it looks like.
utter trash but it unfortunately it kind of looks like my kind of trash yeah you know you're gonna you're gonna pick it soon i don't know if i'm gonna pick it soon but i'll put it in there Is it a, is it a Whittle goober movie or is it just a, he's a little bit of a goober. He's a goober for sure. He's a medium goober though. Yeah. I don't think he's as little as like Warwick Davis, but he looks, you know.
He's a little person. He's a little guy. It looks fun though. It also, because it's like, it's very similar where it's like, A weird... I mean, Leprechaun is a demon. Yes. Rubble Silkskin's a demon. He's making bargains. He's doing evil shit.
that's what Rumpelstiltskin's up to there's a movie I feel like Rumpelstiltskin and Leprechaun are in a way like they grant you wishes and their magic but the magic it's like a trick it's always a monkey's paw I feel like in the same vein I have heard a friend of mine Ryan recommended I watch He said, I can't believe you haven't watched this because it's so much better than the first one you talked about. The first one is Wishmaster. The sequel to Wishmaster I hear is very fun.
I just hate the way Wishmaster looks. Oh, he looks like a real asshole. He looks like a real dick. Yeah. A dumb dick. It doesn't intrigue me at all because that first one was so stupid. Yeah. I hear good things about Wishmaster too. Wow. And I hear good things about Warlock 2. I hear good things about Warlock 1. Okay. I've always been kind of curious about this. I thought we did Warlock.
We've never done Warlock. Julian Sands. Yeah. I've been, I've been curious about those for some reason. I'm interested in Warlock movies too. I bet they're dog shit. I had a friend of mine who was into them and told me a few details and I was like, that sounds really dark. Like that's, I think you're like,
And I might be wrong. He might have been telling me about how the boobs turned into cubes, and I might have ran with it, and now I'm about to tell you guys. It's just rumors. This is hearsay. But I hear that he is... He conjures a special type of deep, strong magic with draining babies of their fat. That sounds dark. Maybe that's a thing. Maybe it's just what my friend Shane told me in seventh grade. Shane, if you lied to me, I'm putting you on the spot. How many years ago was that?
Maybe it's eighth grade. It's none of your business, Brian. You could do the math. I was right there with you. Listeners, please let us know if there is, in fact, some form of magic that's sapping babies of their baby fat. in the warlock movies. Yeah. If there's not, then we're going to push those down the line. I think there's, I think there's a baby sacrifice.
magic potion. And it might be, I'm going to push it up to ninth grade just to make things fair. I think that's a little closer. I think it was maybe still the eighties, but at the tail end of the eighties. Cool. I'm interested in those movies more just because I am fascinated by what happened with Julian Sands in real life. What happened when he just kind of went hiking and disappeared? He went for a hike and then fucking disappeared. And then they found his body months later.
Did find his body. Yeah, eventually found his body. What happened? By that point, the body was completely, like, you know, the exposure decomposed. But they can still find out if there's, like, blood force trauma or some shit, you know? I don't know. A lot of that. I mean, yeah, some of that stuff, I'm sure. I feel like you just like, this is a much later Warlock movie. I think he just went into the desert and kind of... No, it was just up there by the fucking... It was up by...
Oh, it was the Hollywood Hills. Maybe he just got loopy. What's it called? Not the... Yeah, but just the Hollywood sign. He was right there. Yeah, like kind of. What is that? Griffith Park or like out that way? Really? That's it? I thought that's where it was at. Maybe I'm tripping. He could have fallen or something. But it's just weird that people were looking for him forever and then you wouldn't have found him, you know?
So like he was so off track or off trail or like whatever. I wonder when it went down there, but it is like, it's, it's horrible. And it's also like that kind of shit just fascinates me because it's just like, He was just doing the same thing that he did every weekend and then all of a sudden just disappeared. That's just wild. Talented man. Poor guy.
Space, kinda. A little bit. A little bit of space. Just enough. Plenty of the 90s, which we like. A little bit of powdered wigs. A little bit of 1781 or whatever it was. Yeah, and again, Pinhead wasn't even headed by then. He had a hundred plus years before. Did you guys like it? Did you hate it? Where did you guys land on this one? I thought it was
There's a lot of things I didn't like. The transitions were poor. Right. The editing was cat shit city. And, but the concepts I liked almost a lot of the actors I liked. Doug Bradley did great. He delivered his lines like a goddamn master, like always. And the lines were kind of badass. And this certainly is not the worst of the bunch. No. Which is a crazy thing. This one's pretty bad. Yeah. But it gets even worse. It's weird to me that the first two are genuinely...
and terrifying and gory and crazy. And then from there it just becomes Nightmare on Elm Street. But we're worse because at least Nightmare on Elm Street are watchable. These give. Fuck it. I just mean like silly, like one-linery kind of weird vibes, you know? Yeah. It just kind of takes that route. I might keep watching. To get unserious for sure. I might watch every Hellraiser movie and I don't see a reason not to because I watched the Dead Zone series in its entirety.
And that was an hour a day for a few months. Jesus Christ. At your own private hill. I feel like I could do a tiny bit more time and I could watch the end. I would know how the whole series plays out. I'm curious. I don't really care much once. Doug Sups Being Pinhead. Was this his last one? No, he kept going. Okay, I'll at least watch the ones he's in. And I am still interested. I still haven't watched it, but the women...
Cenobites one dude that one is pretty good I hear that too that new one is pretty fucking rad I trust you I know that you know you like good shit so I think that'll probably be decent I've heard good things about it yeah I'm about to rewatch that shit tonight just cause I
I was inspired by watching this one. I want to see another good one. Yeah, I want to do that one down the road, but I kind of feel like we at least need to do the rest. I'd be happy if we just do the ones that have Doug as Pinhead. Oh, boy. I just remember watching the video. very next one after this one and it was just so horrible that I'd never ever want to go really watch that or anything past the next one
I think it was the very next one. Were you young when you decided? I watched it when it came out. Whatever year that fucking next one came out, I was like, okay, another Hellraiser. Fuck yeah, let's go. And you're like a tiny kid and you're just like, you made the decision. You're like, this is dog shit. There's no way I ever want to watch it again. Yeah. I mean, there you go, Hollywood. I feel the same way. I mean, I've seen some Halloween movies that were like, yeah.
What the fuck are we doing here? I think it's worse than any Halloween I've ever fucking seen. Wow. I swear to God. Not this one. Not the one we just watched. No, no, not this one. This one's better than... You're talking about four or five? I'm talking about the fifth one. Yeah, the fifth Hellraiser or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, fifth. When they start to become direct-to-video, which is a...
Huge sign of the quality. Because they don't care. Why to care? Why to care? Why to care? Why to care? It's Y2K. Why to care? I mean, there's no reason. You're no longer caring about meeting the seats numbers. You're only going to make a good cover.
and a shit movie to sell tapes. Exactly. He's like, oh, here's another one at the video store. I'll rent it. That's the only idea. Guaranteed Pinhead is on the cover of Six. Oh, yeah, of course. Playing his day, right? Of course he is. But I think he... If I remember correctly, I haven't seen it since it came out. I think he's barely in the motherfucker.
Of course, his face is all over, but I think he's barely in the thing. Hellseeker, huh? Hellseeker, that's right. Is that six or is that five? That's five, I think. Right? Oh, wait. I looked up sick. Sorry. Hellseeker is five. I don't care. I don't care to remember these ones. Hellraiser five is Inferno. That's 2000. Right, right. Inferno. But look at the tape. It's just straight up. Of course, all it is. Pinhead's big fucking head. Yeah.
God, look how... That's an ugly cover, too. It's just fucking hideous. We're getting into an ugly... I mean, God, how are we still... I think 1998, 1999 is still pretty ugly. What year did that come out? 2000? Yeah. That's ugly. And then 2000 for number six was 2002, Hellseeker. And of course, that's just also Pinhead's fucking mug.
Also ugly cover. Yeah, it's starting to look like Saw movies where you're like, why would they even, how do they even distinguish which one's which? Evil, deadly, immortal. No, he's not. No, he's late. Late, we'll get in. Look a couple movies back, you get to see him die for good. But maybe there'll be more space movies
More Hellraiser space movies. I mean, I like the idea that if a human... is in space and believes in heaven and hell then by all rights then there should be if if that is a real thing then you should be able to be tormented by demons well that's what we get in event horizon isn't it boys it is which i that movie's fucking dope The movie scares me to death. It's fucking terrifying. If you want to throw a pinhead in that, it would have been...
Gold. Yeah. I am scared to watch Event Horizon, and I've seen it so many times. It's coming up, and I'm like, my heart might not be able to take it this time. Oh, man. It's so scary. The jump scares, they get me every fucking time. Yeah, that movie fucked me up, too. So gory. As a kid, when we did the rewatch during COVID, I remember...
being very disappointed in the scares. Really? Oh, it's got me again. But there's a part of me that remembers it being so fucking frightening when it originally came out. Sure. So I still think about it like that. Seeing that movie for the first time, dude, fucking hell. Gnarly, yeah.
It's so scary to me. That's great. No, I love that. It got me so hard in the theater the first time I was like, I have never seen a scarier movie. You saw it in a theater? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like when it came out originally? Oh, yeah. Originally. Fuck yes, dude. The weekend it came out. Fuck yes. You know what I saw in the theater?
We'll talk about it later, but my dear friend Logan saw it in the theater and he's not a scary movie guy. Oh, shit. Not a scary movie guy. And he saw it and he was like, he said... That was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life.
and he went and got someone else and brought him to the theater just to watch them watch the movie he saw it twice in the same day with him facing the public watching someone jump out of their skin every few minutes I can't wait to do a rewatch on that me too it's about time
And that movie's fantastic. Have they done that for The Colt Knight? I feel like they have. I've watched it, yeah. Really? Oh, fuck. I would love to see that. I've never seen it in the theater. What would it be paired up with? Yeah, I was wondering, too. I don't know. It would be a good movie to pair up Event Horizon with.
Did we talk? I'll save it for Event Horizon. Yeah. Because there's some other fun... fucking hell shit that I have seen that I want to talk about yeah yeah save it for that one yeah and that will be on Patreon if you want to go hit up patreon.com slash forever midnight yeah you can join up with the five dollar tier and you can listen to like we have like 50 plus episodes dozens and dozens I think it's more I think I've been saying 50 plus for like a year yeah yeah 60 plus there's a lot
And it's a lot of fun. There's all kinds of stuff up there. There's some videos. There's all kinds of stuff. Yeah. Commentaries. Check that shit out. But most importantly, exclusive episodes. You can't get anywhere else. Yeah. And we get a little weirder over there sometimes, a little wilder sometimes. Yeah. We try different things. We did. Commentaries, movie commentaries as well. So it's really fun. It is. If you like what we're doing here, you should jump over there.
Check that out. Join us. Yeah. Do you feel like doing a voicemail before we dip? Yeah, let's do one voicemail real quick. Also, yeah, what's the next movie we're going to do is Critters 4. Right. So Critics 4 in space. Hopefully there's a little more space in this one. There has to be, right? It says in space. Well, Critics 4 says in space. Yeah. Leprechaun force says in space. Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. I keep thinking about it. My brain's fucked. They seem like.
They're both little goober movies, so they kind of walk hand in hand. I wonder if they're just back and forth to space like a bunch of times in the movie. Getting reinforcements. Yeah, I don't know. I've never seen this one. Be cool to watch finally. I'm excited for it. I love the first Critters so much. I like Critters 2 also. Critters 2 is pretty fun. I hate to say it, it is pretty fun though.
I want to see more Scott Grimes. Yes, sir. I don't think he shows up in this next one. He's on four, right? I don't think so. No, hell no. I don't think he's in three either. I don't think he shows up in three. Yeah. But yeah, I love Scott Grimes. He's right. But Deason better be in four.
I think Deason is in four. Oh my God. I think he skips. I think he, cause he wasn't in three. Yeah. Show up again. I think he's in four also. I'm pretty sure. Oh my God. Yes. I think he told us that himself. I think so too. I might have to get another cameo for our, our patrons from, from old Eddie. Fuck yes. I didn't remember that. We'll have to figure out some questions to ask him for. Hell yeah. Or maybe I'll... Terrence Mann's back.
Oh, shit. Blurry Curry, number three. That's a Blurry Curry for sure. I see that one. That's fucked, dude. I fucking love that dude, too. He's back in four? He's back in four, yeah. Oh, I'm so fucking hyped. Let's go. Is the big tidied? Crichton? I don't think so. Damn it. But the main guy who wrote these movies plays Charlie.
Don Keith Hopper is his name. Yeah. He's like the guy who, you know, he was like the simpleton who ended up becoming a Crite. Oh, yeah, the Crite guy. Yeah, he went and moved on. He didn't become a Crite, he became one of the Bounty Hunters. Bounty Hunters, sorry, excuse me, excuse me. I'm going to say, I said Big Titty Crite. Big Titty.
but I liked the visual you gave me so I didn't say anything I feel like a big titty crate would have two krites as titties yeah of course oh that'd be amazing yeah well you know what The cast is, I don't see Eddie Deason. It's a bummer. He was not credited. But they're in space. So how many people? There's only like eight people in this movie. God damn it. I hope there's a Deason.
Dude, should I spoil who's in this movie for you? No, we're going to get there. Oh my gosh, guys. Let's do a voicemail. I can't wait. Let's do a voicemail. There's some big names in that movie. There's an Oscar winner in that movie. Shut up. I guarantee you there's an Oscar winner. What? No.
No, Leo's not in this one. He's in three. You'll see. There's an Oscar winner in that movie. We do gotta fucking turn the ship around and head up three also. Because I do want to see three. We gotta see DiCaprio. yeah i'm dying to i love the critters movies put me fucking do it yeah it's a little it's a little goober movie we gotta do this yeah so we're gonna do a little we're gonna do a little deviation of the the norm and hit up four then three but it's fine who cares
We can call our own destiny. If three was in space, we'd be doing three, but we're doing it. This is space time. Yeah. Space month. All right, we got one from the old boy. Hey, it's Woffy Pockets. Good. Calling in. We listened to the Puppet Master episode tonight. Uh-oh. Something kind of popped into my mind. Brian had brought up, or someone had brought up Trilogy of Terror, and Brian had mentioned...
the puppet in that being kind of problematic. And I don't disagree, but I thought you guys might be interested to know this. So my wife and I, we watched that movie for the first time last year, I think. or maybe the year before. And I've never talked about this because it's not pertinent, but my wife and I, we've been together 20 years. I'm married to a black woman, very active in our local NAACP group or branch.
And the head of the branch is... older lady in her 70s but she's a horror movie fan and that is her favorite horror movie and that was the whole reason my wife and i ashley is her name she has a name reason why we watched it was because it was her favorite horror movie uh with the uh little uh voodoo fetish doll or whatever the hell it's called um And I liked it. I liked it a lot. I thought it was a really cool anthology movie.
Karen Black playing, you know, different characters throughout. It's a fun movie, but like I said, I don't disagree. It is a little sketchy, but still really fun. Hell yeah. That's awesome. Congratulations on 20 years, by the way. That's amazing. That's a huge milestone. Sloppy P, I think you topped it off right there. You said it's a little sketchy and I liked it is the sloppy P story.
love a trilogy of terror. Yeah. Yeah. Like I know there's, I mean, if you watch any movie from whenever, like 75, whenever that movie was made, you're going to find a problem. Oh yeah. There's fucking social problems. Every one of those movies.
But that one, that reveal where that doll, like the doll's goof, but when it finally, I mean, I'm not trying to spoil Trilogy of Terror. It's been out a while. You're out of your time with Trilogy of Terror. When she flew in the fucking mouth of teeth in Karen Black. come up with the same mouth of teeth as the doll.
Fuck me running. That shit scares me still. Karen Black rules so much. I love Karen Black so fucking much. But she's scary out of that part. It is a cool movie. I agree. Yeah, it's a good one. If you've never done it, we should probably do it someday. I love it. Even though it is a little problematic. Yeah. I mean, hey, we've done some problematic movies. Many. Speaking of old sloppy pee, though. What's up? We got a box.
Delivery. Delivery. Sloppy P, what have you done? Sloppy P's been hooking us up with all kinds of fun shit lately. So we've been getting all kinds of amazing stickers. Forever Midnight-centric. stickers. That knife just hit me in the lid. And it's sticking out of your foot. Wow. That was a freebie. Always cut towards your ephemeral artery. Stuck in my fucking leg.
Yeah, so we got the classic blank stickers from him recently. That was amazing. That's very sweet. That was so fucking good. I'll let you do the honors of checking out. What's going on in here? It's a heavy box. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. He's been hooking us up. And there's more coming. He told me today there's more coming. What? A new merch guy, apparently.
Sloppy P's made some stickers for us. Is it some of our sayings? It's some of our sayings. There's this big sticker that says, you better not be making a porno. This one's for me. And there's another one called... This is shunt your gunt. Oh, I love these. What is the other two? The other two, this is this Matt Darling? Yeah, or Matt Darling logo. Matt Darling logo.
And this Forever Midnight logo. Circular logo. These are so great. Very cool. Thank you, Devin. So if you didn't hear that episode, Devin, it's Hoppy P. called us up and and and out of josh for for saying this apparently it's something i say all the time where like Especially in watching any Charles Band movie because you know he wants to make a porno. But you also know that he's got –
Surely he has a wife that's like, don't you fucking make a porno. So, like, I remember he made Head of the Family, right? Yeah. And I remember Head of the Family where that woman... This woman who's the actor in the movie, she's... She's a fine actor. She's probably the best part of the whole movie. She's nude the entire movie practically. And she's got a ton of lines, but she's always fucking.
Whatever his name, Denise Mann, whatever her name is, is like... I know you're trying to get that woman naked, but you better give her all the lines in the world. otherwise it's a porno yeah you fucking too chuck what are you making down there chuck not a porno here she's talking can you hear it i love it Thank you, Devin. Thank you, Devin. This is the sticker. Better not be making a porno. It's a reference to this famous Josh saying. I love it.
Who said shut your gun? Which one of us said that? It might have been me. We might have said shut your gun like a hundred times during the Society episode. We got real gunty a couple years back. That's true. We revisited the gun a couple times.
There was a, that was our gunt era. Our society episode is one of those like, like gold star people are like that's the one i always that's the shunt era for sure oh oh man the shunt i had a revealing tale on that one that was that was a good episode i remember i only remember because i had to like i was in a van full of co-workers and i had to
slam I had to pull the fucking cord out of my iPhone like nope we're not we're not going to continue listening to that in the car with people I barely know Thank you, Devin. Thank you so much, Devin. I really appreciate it, Devin. You fucking ruled. Those are amazing. Yeah, this is amazing. And also the classic wank and all that.
There's some other ones coming too. He sent me some photos today. I can't even imagine what's next. So fun. I love that he listens to the episodes multiple times, so he's hearing things that we have probably never really focused on. He's picking up on it. amazing thank you Devin You guys ready for more space or what? Oh, yes. At least if there's some space. I want some subspace. No, there's going to be...
Krites with fucking powdered wigs in this next one. You ready? You ready for that? I want to see that. I want to see Freddy Krueger with a powdered wig. I kind of do too. Now that you said it. You know, that's called Phantom of the Opera, I think. Oh, shit. That's right. He's in Phantom of the Opera. He is, yeah. I think so weird there's like some weird prequel of Nightmare on Elm Street.
And somehow Freddy's in it, even though he wasn't like alive or dead when that happened. I do really feel that way. Anytime I see Robert Englund in a movie that's not a Nightmare on Elm Street movie, I'm like, what universe is this? But Freddy Krueger was like, Right. Like eating alive or whatever. He's like, Freddy Krueger was just out down in the bayou fucking around. Like...
Early days of the Krug. Is he in I, Madman? No, he's in the other one. The Phantom of the Opera one. He's in Phantom of the Opera. He's in the Mangler. I always feel like the cover of I, Madman and the Phantom of the Opera for some reason. I think look the same. I'm at man's one. I want to pick. Yeah. One of these days soon. It's a Tibor Takax movie, the guy who did The Gate.
Somebody posted something the other day about iMadman saying that it could have been a franchise. It was a rad movie. And I was like, whoa, that's a pretty big claim. I'm curious now. It's got a notorious villain in it. It's like a masked villain in it who's really cool. It's got... gate minions in it because that guy only makes gate minions. It had stuff that could have been like fleshed out. Oh, God. It's got Jenny Wright in it and I am... Jackpot.
mesmerized it's got also clayton roner who not so much but jackpot jackpot I love Jenny Wright so much. Is his family operated horror? Is that a horror one? I think so. I'm going to go ahead and say, Jeff, if you want to pick it, yes. Phantom of the Opera is drama, horror. There you go. I mean, even the original Phantom of the Opera, it's a horror film. Yeah. I mean, the old Universal one. Yeah, the 30s one. Yeah. Yeah.
Stage play that everyone loves. Snoozy? Are you talking about Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber? Yeah, that's him. Yeah, people... I mean, we might have some... Phantom fans out there but like I remember the first time I saw like a friend of mine was i was really into the original movie like in fact my one of my father's first like monster famous monsters magazines had like the phantom revealed and it was like frame by frame of getting his mask pulled off.
One of the scariest things I remember ever seeing as a kid, but then I saw this fucking dumb shit I went to high school with came to school with a cape and the half mask. I was like, why don't you go fuck right off? It's like, I want to be a vampire, but I'm not even that cool. No. Like, what the? Are you even burned under there? You liar. Yeah, but like that original mask too from like Phantom of the Opera, like not his face, which is terrifying, but his mask.
that he's wearing is also very scary. The one that's just like the weird has a half. Yeah. Oh yeah. Woo. That I. You know what's also fucking scarier than the Phantom of the Opera, Andrew Lloyd fucking Schwebber? Andrew Lloyd Webster is Phantom of the Paradise. Oh, yeah. Well, that's a sick-ass movie. That's a sick movie. scary, violent musical of the opera. You fucking Andrew Lloyd Biter.
God, I love it. Yeah, that movie's rad. Especially just because of the music connection for us. The music, the Paul Williams, the fucking everybody. I'm a big Paul Williams guy. Fuck yeah. That dude fucking rules. He does. He rips. I love him in that movie. Oh, he's... He's the best part of that movie for me. I love that. It's so funny because he's such a little squirrely little dude. He's so interesting looking out to me. He's such a character. Totally. Yeah. Filled to the brim.
What's his character? Meat or whatever the fuck? Beef. Beef. Garrett Graham. Dude, that guy's great. He's in so many fucking... Yeah, television and all this shit. The guy who plays Laszlo is... Child's Play 2. Or is it Winslow? The guy who was in fucking... Yeah, Gator... eaten alive what is that's what he was in he was in that too right yeah with robert england yeah and jessica what's her name from fucking suspiria jessica harper jessica harper lover
Yeah, she's fantastic. Yeah, that movie's dope. We should do it sometime. It is not in space, though, so let's wrap this one up. Let's wrap this up. Let's thank the Next Record Store in Santa Rosa. Yes. Thank you for being our sponsor. Go check out thenextrecordstore.com.
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This one better be a lot in space. Yeah, we need a full-on space one. There wasn't enough fucking Hellraiser bloodlines, by the way. There was a lot of fucking in Hellraiser 3. There was a little bit of fucking-ing in this one. A little bit. There's only one fucking-ing. Yeah. I didn't see a dick root. There was that whole sex scene. Kind of. It's kind of like the gore. You kind of see it. It was like a 90s softcore fucking romance scene.
Yeah. Yeah, I sure was. You didn't mix any blood into the sex scene. It's not a Hellraiser movie. Yeah, you want fucking like Julia naked and skinless. Yeah. Right. Putting her fingies in your mouth in a sexual way. More skinless people. Yeah. they better like that whole cop came out of his skin entirely out of his skin yeah for and just for one second i realized why i was only one second though he was very dry he looked very dry
Julia, Uncle Frank always glistening. Skinless people. The magic's a little lost without Julia or Frank. Some of the best, scariest characters from Hellraiser. Hellraiser 1 and 2. The true villains, actually. Yeah, exactly. Fuck Pinhead. Pinhead, he's doing his job. Uncle Frank and Julia are fucking way more terrifying. Extremely deviant people. Hammer murderers? Yeah, what the fuck? I love that. And that movie's so gory and scary. Anyways. Yeah.
After you watch this movie, go watch one and two. If you started the Hellraiser franchise with four, then you've done it wrong. Yeah, you blew it. You're doing it wrong. Go back and watch the good ones. And three. Shut up. I like three. Three's okay. I like three so much. I like CD Head. I do too. I like the camera head guy. I want to see record player head skipping fucking every time he does anything. I imagine like the top half of his skull is just spinning around. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Yeah, the whole thing is spinning. It's just like hitting on it. Yeah, just... That'd be sick. Occasionally you hear a little... But it's like... I love a rainy night by fucking Eddie rabbit. Oh God. Oh God. No. His body's a speaker. It's Catherine and to kneel. Every time it touches, I was like, fucking, I love it. Make it dumb. Make it dumber for me. It's not dumb enough. That's what I didn't like about this one. Could have been dumber. I just wanted to see the real version. Oh well. Yep.
I think I read that there's a version of it that's closer to Kevin Yeager's. So they say. How do you do that? Yeah, I don't know. So they say. So they say. Yeah, this is still back in the... Oh, Gazoon High. Let's talk about glistening. I wish you'd get out of here. Yeah, let's go. I want to go. Good night, everybody. Bye. Bye. Forever Midnight is recorded at the Scary Movie Research Center in Salem. recorded by Paul Hale and performed by Linda Amari, Elliot Whitehurst, Paul Hale.