I SAID TOO MUCH

For the record with me Angelina, who's been so so behind on editing episodes. You guys, when I tell you, I think we recorded this one like two weeks ago, dead ass. We're gonna be back next week on point. But yeah, you might get an extra episode next week too, because there was another really good episode that we recorded that I forgot to edit, that was even way before this one. I might just like do the Bitch segment because I feel like our topic was really good, but obviously everything

else is a little outdated. Sem I the case for this episode, I mean not really, just for the culture, and for the culture, I do want to I did want to talk about Steven A. Smith and Monica McNutt and then getting into it and the whole narrative around the WNBA right now, and let's talk TV. I'm actually late to the party, even though this is a late episode. I've been late to this. I just finally watched the movie Bottoms on Amazon Prime and I have to talk about it.

And in Bitch, we talk about when being the oversharer bites you in the ass. Okay, when is sharing too much information with your friends about your situationships and relationships too much? So by all means, let's get to it. This is for the culture, for the culture. For the culture. This is where we pick a headline and ask if they, she or he did it for the culture. I'm gonna just flat, I'll say steven A.

Smith right now not doing it for the culture. I know you guys, I don't know if you guys watch First Take at all, But if you don't know, and for the listeners that don't listen to because this is obviously not a sports podcast, First Take is a popular sports show with steven A. Smith and Shannon Sharp, and basically what they do is they just

discuss the hottest topics that are going on that week in sports. Usually like yeah, they're just having a discussion and they'll bring on guests and Mollie Kierum love her. She's like the girl on the show. She's kind of the moderator to make sure they stay on track when we need to come a commercial break. And yeah, they have guests on to like basically debate with steven A Shanna Sharp like kind of battle it out on like the hottest topic.

So a couple of weeks ago, the whole honestly, the video world lost our minds about the w WNBA because Kennedy Carter they're playing a game against Kaylyn Clark, and basically Kaitlyn Clark was getting ready to get in about it and

mind you, like, I'm sure you guys know Kaylyn Clark. People are saying like she is like the reason that the WNBA is getting all this attention, which honestly is the whole other conversation because yes and no, you know, I I think she deserves her flowers too, but do you think people have been a little od with it? Anyways, She's waiting to get the ball inbounded and Kennedy cars sees her and you see her mouth. She says, you little bitch and runs up to her and gives her a little hip

check before the ball's even inbounded, and yeah, okay. People were mad about that. And then after review, the refs just said it was a common foul and like, clearly it's a flaground foul, Like that wasn't okay, And guys, the world went crazy like everyone's just like bathing Kaylen Clark and they're just like like news outlets like Good Morning America covered it, You covered it. News outlets were like this is assault is crazy. It's the

basketball y'all. Like honestly that what she did was wrong and like one hundred percent was a flagron foul, like I would have been mad about the common foul too, And honestly, like just watching the game, like the game was really close, like girl, I'm all here for like, you know, bicking up someone, you know, gotta punk a chest out a little bit. Yeah, but like when the game is that closed, like that was honestly like just a dumb decision in general, But it's not something that's

like uncommon in the game of basketball. Men do it all the time, yes, not just basketball, like football players do it all the time, people like stepping on people's heads and shit, so like, and no one's calling it assault, right And basically there's like this narrative in the media that like, oh, the women are messing up the coverage that the WNBA is

getting. So Steve n Ae Smith and he brings up Monica McNutt, who is an ESPN analyst honestly covered NBA and WNBA, and she's also played basketball herself, like she's what's a player in the game exactly she knows what she's doing. So they're on to talk about this and basically like, I'm paraphrasing the whole thing, but Steve Nie Smith basically is like, you know, I hate having to choose my words because he does want to criticize the women

for like I guess not acting right because of the coverage or whatever. I don't know, and it like hates that she's saying, I hate that this is in a diegment of the whole WNBA, Like it shouldn't be. She like did say, like Kenny Karva is wrong for doing that. It was like all around stupid decision, but this isn't like a whole indictment of the WNBA, Like now you know they're ruining it for themselves and you know,

like we can't choose violence, like oh, that's pretty stupid. And Steven Smith is like, I hate that I'm trying to criticize her, but I have to pick and choose my words, and Monica says, well, welcome to like being a woman, right, like okay, all the time, right, which so things are gonna heat it mid They're having this conversation for forty five minutes, which like on first like like it doesn't that doesn't happen

a lot and especially talking about women's sports, which it's like silver lining because that is cool. Like in general, we haven't seen this much coverage on the WNB and ju just so exactly, but like it's it's getting really heated, like Molly has to be like, guys, let me do my job, like we have to go to commercial break here, Like she's getting like, yeah, it's getting heated. So they're saying that she says, welcome to being a woman. So where steven A responds what he says, he

says, what about being a black man? And for contact, Monica is a black woman, So it just seemed I don't know, I guess looking back now, like in the heat of the moment, like that's this is stephen a show. I'm sure there. I feel like there is a narrative also, like obviously we know women's basketball is getting more coverage, but there is a lot of people who like talk shit still who say people don't care

about women's basketball and you know, like are so anti the WBA. Yeah exactly, So I get not wanting to be like roped into that, you know, like yeah and becoming defensive and none of us are black, soot don't even want to speak, like too much to what they're saying to each other, but also like I was raised by a lot of black women and like just doing your regular research on America and how black women have been treated, Like you don't want to play the struggle who struggled most? Yeah a

black woman? Yeah, especially as a black man. You would think he would like understand it more so that PARTUT thought was kind of whack. And then he goes on to say who has done more for the WBA than first take? Okase, relax, and again I'm like okay before it gets even like what she responded, which kind of like got things pop in. I get it, like when something is finally becoming popular or coming up like not

only exactly do you not want to be roped into? Oh I'm definitely not that, Like I'm an applive, I don't want to be roped into the others Like that's not me. And I get wanting when things are blowing up, like you want your credit right, like I can talk about this shit or like who talks about it more than my show? Either? I do? I do think that is like I understand where it comes from, like the pride and like wanting to defend yourself and like, exactly, you do

want your credit. I totally get it, but like to your point, it is weird. Don't people want Brownie probe else give it to you because somebody's gonna be like, nah, they've been on that. You know, people that are listening to people are watching, they're right now, they've been about that. You're like, you know what I mean, right? I

guess for me, I'm just like WNBA is having their moment. I think people need to let them have their moments, like it's not about the it's not about who did what first, like and if I'm talking about it on my show, I'm assuming it's because I'm hoping that one day it becomes something like that where it's like, oh, for sure, they're fine right when you're right away like, well, I'm the one doing this, like else

who's done more for whatever? And I'm stly gonna get more into that because so basically he's saying that into what she says, respectfully, stephen A, you weren't talking about the w BA three years ago. Molly Kierum makes the greatest face like she's like, oh, is it true? Steven Ae has a speechless I mean, I guess he's gotta. He did say like, oh, I guess you missed some first take episode. Yeah, like I

would like to see the receipts. I mean, three years ago, no one was me neither, like you know, I mean my mom, she's not her w BA fan, but when she was watching, I wasn't watching it as much like I don't know as many players as I did three years ago than I do now, you know, Like I'm guilty of it too. I think a lot of us are. And it's just like she it was just a true fact. Stephen A speechless, Like the guys, there's a whole pregnant pause like it was awkward. Molly Karen's face is hilarious.

Steven A just goes wow wow. And when you say wow, I know, yeah, you're guilty. You're guilty, guilty face. That's what that means. And that's what Molly was like, guys, please let me do my job, like we need to go to commercial work right now, like we need to wrap this up. So that was that Twitter goes crazy all the headlines. Stephen A left speechless, Steve and I got put in her

place. Want to go checked him? Steven I goes on his own podcast because he has his own platform, and like, I just thought his response was so whack. I don't I don't even have the whole thing, but like some of the things he said was like one like no one who monicam

neck was but now you do if you watch first whatever. Actually it's like she covers both the w n B A and w n B A and like was a player in herself, Like she like you know, tears to like have that platform, and like I don't know, listen, there's like claiming, no one I was talking about the w NBA without my podcast. Nobody knew her without my podcast, Like no, he completely misses the whole point

of what she's said. Obviously, his feelings are hurt, and like I said, I get in the moment, like exactly not I wanted to be roped into, like he's really defending himself and his feelings are hurt. But I just feel like he missed her whole point. Like yeah, because he also goes on to say, like all the women he's hired, like including Molly on first take, and all the women that work at his jobs, and all these things he's done for women and women's bathroom ball, right exactly.

He should have just let her have that, like six with your legend, you have this show, this literally is your platform. Let her win this debate. Yeah, like why do you have to take it there to like, oh well, let me tell you I did X, Y and Z for women, including you. You need to be on this thing. This is my show, you know. Like I just saw his follow up

response with so whack it did not have to go there. Let someone check you or let or be like or show some receipts and be like actually I was, or even if he was honest, like you know what, yeah, like I was also busy trying to have the number one show, you know, like you gotta respect it, like yeah, you know, everyone has excuses of why they didn't put on a platform where they didn't. Her point is like it needs to be done now. And just like this whole

narrative of I mean, going back to that original argument. I was listening to this podcast that Marcus Thompson was on. Legendary a sports writer like did so much work with the Warriors back in our early days, works for the Athletic. He was on this podcast and he was saying, you know, with the WNBA. When you have a big up and cooming league like this, you need those stories of like, you know, juiciness and like personalities,

you know, and about these players and whatnot. But what's missing is the regular WNBA coverage and he and he was saying like he's don't you know, like please don't get mad because like she's a hooper too, but like there's still a lot of people who are not seeing this as real basketball and it's shown in the media, Like how come I can't go see exactly like how many you know, like specific stats and like other things that like sports junkies can't look at too in the NBA, in the NFL, but like

the WABA, it's only these stories drama. Yeah, it's more like reales instead of Yeah. But the argument was like in general, like we just need more depth in wa coverage, which is like period. I thought they like honestly goes into the podcast. It was so good. Let me see what it's called, because I know they work for the Athletic Athletic Women's Basketball show. It is like the emergency pod because they had to talk about this situation. But the way Stevehni Smith went about it, I just thought was

so whack. It's giving defensive in a what's the word, I'm looking for a defensive in a desperate desperation in like a desperation type of way. Like he is trying to defend himself, but in like he doesn't have the right words to say, so he's just trying to make you look even more instant. Yeah yeah, and then you can you can prove yourself later. Yeah

right, you know what I mean? And like I said, like I see, I get, I totally get wanted to defend yourself and all this stuff, and like I respect Steven A. Smith, but it's like the way you're going about it, it's like looking the opposite. It's making you look even worse. Like just let these women have their moment. Yeah exactly, I agree, and like and just the whole like, oh, did

you even know who she was before she was on first stick? Like yul right, because I said, you were talking about the WNBA three years ago. It's honestly, I would like to see the receipts, you know what

I mean? So Charlot to Monica, though she tweeted yesterday, she says, so, what's been going on here with like a ween face because like mind you like Twitter was going crazy, Yeah, Steven A. Smith like two responses like on Twitter on his YouTube page and it's like, you know your platform, like you're lowkey like putting all these people to go bully her

too. Luckily, I mean people are like you're being whack and fuck but like especially the people that you don't want to be, like the people that are so anti w n b A, like they're gonna jump all over yeah them, or that you're giving them chance to be like this is why you know what I mean exactly exactly, So yeah, Steve may Smith, but not doing it for the culture. Let's talk TV honestly, Chris and I

here today, so we're not gonna talk about hacks. So y'all got one more weeks to catch up because I silers I said in the last episode, We're not gonna be aout it right, but I'm away for Chris because he did see them. Finally, I have to start with, no, you want me to watch all three seasons? Huh? Yeah, I said, you can't. Yeah, you can't, You really can't. You really started? No, Okay, no, respectfully, I watched Bottoms for the first

time last night. Did you guys watch that movie. No, Oh my god, it's like I feel like it's like low Ki, like supposed to be like a cult classic. It's with Rachel I think her name Senate. She's she was on the idol. She was like the friend that's like the assistant. Again. It's a movie. It's called Bottoms. Marshall Lynch was like a supporting character. He's all funny. Oh and I haven't seen it that dog I know he's actually and then I, oh, how do you

say her last name? From the bear Piery? Yeah, from the bear who's like amazing, she's in it, you guys. I was not expecting because Okay, what I've read on Twitter and stuff, like, it's supposed to be like a super Bad for girls basically. But it's basically about these two lesbians in high school and they create a fight club just so they could hook up with cheerleaders, and they like it's they kind of lie about why they're creating the club, or like their resources or like their background, their

credentials. I guess of like what makes them start a fight club just so they hook up the chillers, But they end up creating like this really cool space for women. Okay, so that's like kind of the premise of so you can see where that goes wrong and where it doesn't. But it's just it's like so chaotic, Like there's scenes like, honestly, I don't want to say it because it's like go into a vinely But I guess a lot

of it is satire. But there's some ship that I did not plan on seeing, like it looking as a little gory, Like the scenes are crazy glory bruh, because it is a comedy. It's it's hell of funny. Yeah, shout out to Marshall Lynch. Actually, I think I read this a long time ago because I meant to watch this movie a long time ago. It's certainly not a new movie came out last year. But I guess like Marshall Lynch putou because I guess like his sister or something was lesbian.

I think when she came out he didn't like when he handled it. I don't know, because it is definitely a lesbian like, so I think it meant a lot for him to be in it and play that role. He's like the freaking teacher and I don't know, he like tries to understand these girls but be small, be small. Yeah, I know, he's pretty funny in it. It's good. Just go watch it. It's chaotic.

It definitely is like very super bad, very book smart, like it's hilarious, but some twists that makes it like maybe like in more it's like, wow, this is a cult classic because it's so stupid bad I have I didn't even I have never heard of it. I I've not seen the movie poster. I've not seen anything. I guess I A lot of writers on Twitter also don't have Amazon the movie one the Oh that is probably what I watched. I don't have it, and that's where its streaming on, So

I have that, but I don't. I didn't even see it on it don't all. I guess all the writers, I like, everyone does tweet about it on my timeline, but in a very you have not known already. People are making like the fan edits for it, you know, like that kind of deal. Okay, But I also I think I know more about it because I had interv Charlie XCX, and I think she basically like helped with the score. Oh yeah, she did a lot of the sound

and her and I Rachel gar are like besties. Yeah, I was reading some of the reviews on letter box because I'm just like, what are people thinking about this movie? Like there's just a lot of stuff I did not expect. Like I literally like kind of I was like laying down and it made me like sit up. I was like, what the fuck like that? But it's hilarious. But yeah, I'm just reading someone said Rachel said in AO I do you know, learn how to say her last name?

But it says could do fight Club with Brad Pitt and Edwin Orton. Couldn't do bottoms because the guy is like a fight club but like a super Okay, it sounds good. Oh and one thing I just want to say. At the end, they have a bluebird thing bring like bluebirds Anyone's like you? Which I finally watched too. Yes, it was bad. It was pretty bad. I'm definitely not saying it's my top three, but I love

a rom cop. So bad it's a bad movie. I would watch again, Okay, Okay, and I guess I do agree with I was like looking on Twitter, a lot of people are saying that Sidney Sweeney was miscast. I do kind of see that a little bit. The guy was perfect the main guys. I think she's just meant for more either serious roles or like scary movies. A yeah. And also I'm sorry Gata cannot act.

I know, I gave him praise older episodes and Little Dickie for his like monolog but I think it was more just what they were highlighting, because the more I see him, I'm like, how was he getting these roles? And like he just seemed so like not even just talken a black guy, but like it was just so unnatural, like so like I would not believe that there are friends Okay, Okay, well, technically he was the sister, the brother sorry to the to the friend guy. He's also the guy's

best friend, the one that Sidney Sweeney except with. I like, you know, I believe that the the guy who Sidney Sweeney hooks up with is friends with the girl one of the one of the the girls from the couple that's getting married, because I don't know, I just like there, yeah, like they're definitely close, because he was like, I know, you, bro, you need to choose her, and like you know everything about the eggs. Okay, I guess, uh telling me And I've watched the

movie so many times. But and they read they were friends. Wise, I mean they're all friends because they grew up together. Okay, yes, yeah, they all hang out. Like let's see where they're like meeting up to the friends. Like, I don't know, it's just like this is so it doesn't seem like he really hangs out with them, like obviously he does this movie. But but you didn't buy it. You didn't buy the

acting. Yeah, he's just a bad actor. But I would I would still watch it again though, like there were some parts that I that made me feel things. Okay, well, it is one of my favorite rom coms. I don't know. I don't remember if I said top three, but I did say, yeah, I did not. I did not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember, but top three. It's

not in my top three. If I did say that, it's not in my top three, but is one of my favorite rom comms currently and will be in my rotation of feel good comfort movies that I will put on when I want to watch a movie, and I will stand by that, respectfully. What everyone else thinks good for you, what I think good for me, you're not. I'm it does not hurt my feelings that people are hating on it. Yeah, we're not trying to hurt your feelings a course,

just giving a review of the movie, I know. But I just feel like the way that I was going hard for it, yeah, and like people aren't are telling me that they don't like it. It's fine, Yeah, yeah you should it just for you. It's for you. There's a really bad wrong time I watched it was like I think it's called When We

Last Met or something. It's like such a big movie. It's not the guy from Alcoholics, a small one with a scrunch, and like he goes into like I don't know, this fucking like photo booth and he's like allowed to like rewind time every time he goes into it, and he like is in love with this girl, so he goes in there three wine so we could get her to like fall in love with him every time he meets her, but like it never works out. Yeah, like because they're just not

meant to be. But it's like kind of a bad movie, but I liked it, And that's how I feel about anyone but you. It's like this is clearly a bad movie, but I will watch it again. That's how I felt about have you always seen How to Stay? Or How to Be Single? Oh? I love the movie, that's not it. I liked it, but I think I don't know, just something about it was like not my favorite. I see it again. It's just different way. I don't know. But it's a good movie. It is a good movie.

I like the time. I will say, but yeah, anyone but you, you guys watched it, let us know, let us know. I still really think it's good. I will still recommend it to everyone I talk to. Go watch Bottom though, because that's another one that's like, is this a bad movie or is it the greatest film I've ever seen? You know, just a super fun high school comedy, top notch political satire,

amazing score, absolutely deranged, irrelevant, silly film. Cinema bottoms on Amazon Prime, go watch it. Bit, there is something I want to talk about a little bit because I have noticed a little backfire on my part. For context, You guys, I'm some and I'm not going to stop this either, but I think I am just going to adjust a little bit. But I am someone who like talks things to the motherfucking ground like anything. It could be a work thing. It's like any conflict comes in my

life, I need everyone in the MoMA's opinions. I need all my friends opinions, maybe even some colleagues. You know, I need a group chat, right, I need to obsess over it for a little bit. I need to torture myself and then I come to my senses and then I have a clearer vision and it really doesn't matter, like I am taking everyone's opinions into consideration. But I think after all of it, I do come to just like truly what I'm feeling and what I think is right. You just

need to talk. You just need exactly and to different people. I do like herring the different things. Whether I agree with it or not, like it just it just helps me. It's just what I like to do. Yes, But you know, I gave my update to you guys about Carpenter

Bay and like you know where things are going. But I had recently went to my Neil appointment, and I forgot that I didn't update my nail tech of like us talking again or like anything that had happen, because I haven't talked her since my birthday, and like why don't She was like why, Like why are you talking to him again, and like I think I talked it too much into the ground that I wasn't even able to like explain it the way I explain it to you guys, cause I'm just like it's like

so long ago now, and like now we're in a good place. Like I didn't, like my emotions aren't even there they're as strong. So I was just like, oh, well, this happened, and he apologized I forgave him. Then he showed up at this thing and I thought I was

really sweet and now we're good. Yeah, And I don't know. She just like was like super shitting on him and like almost the point like I was actually getting irritated because it made me feel like she's like we feel like this dumb bitch who like keeps taking their X back kind of ordeal, you know what I mean. And and I'm like the last one to like be defending a man, Like even my mom and them always get on me like I'm like too harsh on people and what do whooped? And it's like I

don't. It made me like I felt like I needed to do that, and it was like and then I was getting annoyed myself because it's like ill I don't need to. It was like, I don't need to explain anything to you right one two I'm sounding like this girl is like trying to fend him. It's like, oh no, I don't want to sound like that either. Like we were like talking in circles, basically just getting me annoyed. I actually had to go back the next day because we didn't finish my

nails in time and I had to go to WORG. I was running late, so I was like in a better moviod and I did kind of like say it's her in a nicer way that I was kind of annoyed and until she kind of hurt me up. But she was kind of like, well, you know what the day like, this isn't your boyfriend. And I'm like yeah, clearly, like exactly, but also I feel like you're still just now You're just like anyways all this to say, and and I kind of edited it to her with like you know what, yes he did a

whack thing, and I toose to forgive that whack thing. It is what it is, like, yeah he does on the whack and I forgave it. Do I think it's like level of like wow, he's to beat me or I cheated on me, Like I think there's layers of like putting up with shit, So I don't think I'm not gonna say like this dumb bitch

I like keeps going back to her eggs. And also on top of like this isn't my boyfriend, Like I'm not really putting up with anything like the other the day we're dating and having fun, so I'm not necessarily like crying in a corner putting up with anything, laying you know, a bed, waiting for a fall call either, Like I'm not doing that either, So

we kind of just ended it that way. But all this to say, I have this older friend who used to write here at my Heart, and I remember I didn't know so long that she even had a boyfriend until like

we got like extra close because she wanted to vent about him finally. And even then, I remember, like she's now in a really good relationship, Like I don't know, they might get married too, and I don't know, like they're doing really good, but I remember like when they were having their early troubles, like I didn't hear any of it until maybe recently because it was like a past situation and I always admired her of being very private

and like not that I'm gonna stop being this overshare, but I am saying, like you really cannot tell your friends everything, And that's what I want to talk about, oversharing your relationships. I kind of just yeah, I want to talk about that, Like how do you guys feel about that? I think I'm in the same boat as you, where like if something happens to me, I need to like talk about it with like my friend, like like whoever, Like I just need to like expel it from my body

for me to like help me, like you know. Yeah, however, I do feel like speaking on like my relationship and love life vibe. No one knows anything about it. I'm not telling anyone. If I'm dating someone new, they'll hear about it if anything after the fact, no one, no one, no one, like not even like your best friend, no, not even anything, because I definitely knew about you talking to people. Yeah, but like I don't share like all the all the details, like

oh, like oh I'm on the dating apps. Oh I'm going on to day on Saturday. Oh, the day was cool. I'm going on another day like the next week. When you do company problems. It's very like, let me start from the beginning of when it was going good and I was going exactly yeah. Yeah, so it's like more towards like the tail and if anything, and like I feel like even with you, I feel

like I've only talked to you about like one, maybe two people. Yeah, I've dated multiple more than that, sure, but yeah, I don't know. That's just the boundary of mind that I've always had. I don't know why. I just feel like it's something sacred to my heart. And I also feel like I don't want people to know about that part of my life if it's not something that will be long term, Like I don't want

to It's not that it's bad. I don't want to be the person who's like has ten people dating ten people and then like their friends get confused about who you're talking about because it's like you just and then like once it's over, I don't want them to like ask me about it for sure, it's done right whatever. I do feel like you can correct me if I'm wrong. I also feel like you do it also as a protective mechanism a little bit like I feel like you don't like to your helps up about certain things

and like talking about it. You're like, I don't want to talk about it two sand or you know. Also I also feel like that's part of it as well, but yeah, I don't know, it's just well, you don't have to yeah, you know. Yeah, I don't talk to

anybody about anything I have. I have like two people maybe three that really know or that I feel like I could say a lot too, like almost like ninety nine point ninety nine, but there's always something I like to keep to myself, especially with dating and relationships, but me with mostly everything. I think for me though, and I don't know if it's the same for you, but only child you do that a lot growing up sometimes where you

can just yeah, I feel overthink yourself into it. You decided for yourself. You didn't whether you needed the advice or not, you didn't have it, so you just kept yeah. And I think that that kind of internalizes later in life, where like now it's you kind of get used to like, well I talk to as motherfucker, I know it's myself and then you know, And I also will say to everyone, even to you, like not everyone needs to know everything. Yeah, And I think that's that's in

every aspect of your life. No matter how much is everything to you, you can share it a lot, but there's always little things that it's like keep that sacred, keep that for yourself. And I'm sure you do that. You probably just don't realize it because you're choosing to share what you want to. Well, I'm not saying I'm just saying I don't realize it.

There's definitely I don't say every detail, like there's things that are sacred, but I'm just saying I'm an open book like process in general, Like yeah, the things you guys were free to share, Like I'm open book about a lot of things, Like I don't mind sharing, you know, not necessarily deep dark secrets, but like stuff that like is really private to other people, like it's not private to me, And I don't mind that. And I don't think it's something that like, oh this is like it doesn't

mean it's not sacred to me because I'm sharing it. I'm just more comfortable. I'm just like an open book and I don't mind that. Yeah, And I love hearing about other people too, and I feel like and I feel like I get that energy in return because I do feel like a lot of people do confide in me a lot about things that they don't confind to everyone about. Also, yeah, so I don't think I'm necessarily like not making it sacred. It just it's just my personality. Like I don't know,

I'm an aries. I don't know what your guys signs are. Like I'm a pistash and I'm not an only child. I'm the oldest. I'm like the manager of my family. And I have a really big family. And my cousins are like my sisters and my brothers, and like we all just talk like my mom talk about everything too. So I don't know, maybe that's just like also how a little bit how I grew up and just

like what I'm comfortable doing. Yeah, And also and I guess this is what I'm learning now, Like I'm speaking more so about relationships because I know my friends are. I guess I'm only saying this to myself because I know they love me and they care about me a lot. So I also need to remember that they're just coming from a protective place. But I and I also know like that I tend to sometimes I take things personally when they're when

it's not that serious. I say that this is specifically not like i'd the right reason to be a little upset, but it was Also I can't blame him because I chose to share that information, and I guess I just need to be more for me. I need to be more mindful of that, like if you do, in the long run, choose to forgive this person, Like what is is there gonna be any backlash? Or do I need

to explain this to people? Or or yeah, I could send bounari say I don't need explain shit to anyone, but like, at the same time, if you're gonna share something with someone, you kind of do a little bit. I mean, I don't I don't need to do anything. No one needs to do anything, but like if I want to, I guess I am someone that does care about what people think. And I definitely care

about what my friends think. So it does bother me if they're thinking some way, and it's not very easy for me to be like, fuck your opinion, this is what I'm doing. As long as you do have to set that boundary, maybe it's not as brutal. I'm not saying fuck you, but like I do guys say like you know what I do care about the day. It doesn't really matter what what she makes because this is what

I'm doing now, and I'm like set in this. Yeah, but yeah, I feel for like this last thing, and I'm like, ooh, like maybe I need to yeah not maybe I don't need to tell the world that's like, is this like your nel tech person? Yeah? This is also Yeah, Like I think a lot of people they want you to they when they care about you, they want what's best for you. And a lot of times when you share everything, every relationship has ups and downs,

and I don't know about this. I don't know about that. So when you're looking at it from the outside and I don't like this person, you like them, you know, so I rely be like that, ain't it? Or like oh fuck that, like don't tolerate that, And then I'm over here doing the exact same thing with the girl I like, you know what I mean. It's yeah, your friends are always obviously easier to give

advice than to like, but it's hard. It's like big stuff. I think, like I have a cousin who she's with this guy that in the beginning, like she would share a lot of things about him, you know, because she was excited, really close to us everything, and a lot of the things that she would say would be like, oh no about that because of this, or be careful because of that, like little things that you want to tell them because you care, because you like your cousin,

because you want them to be happy, you know what, they deserve whatever, right, and then something happens and then they you know, like you said, you decided to forgive them, and that was your decision. That's great. But then me over here, I don't like the person the way you do, so I'm gonna be like, m he still did that though, you know what I mean, And it kind of ruins, not ruins

that relationship that you can have with this person. But like say, my cousin marries him, I might always been in the back of my head like you still almost like did this though, you know? And that's on me though, right because it's like, I mean, that's something one holding on to it because I love you, because I care about you and a little bit too. I mean, I guess that's exactly That's what I'm saying. Like when you do share, I guess it depends, like you know,

the severity of it. But those are things you do need to take into consideration, especially with family, like exactly, Like and also sometimes we want to vent only when it's a bad thing, Yeah, and we don't take into consideration that we're only like veting, like exactly, like maybe I am more sacred about the nicer things or the cute things because I'm protective of myself, so I'll even want to get too deep into it, you know what

I mean. So like maybe I don't brag about that to my friends or even want to s share it because I feel like those things are more intimate, whereas like I'm just annoyed about some shit you said, Like I'm gonna talk to my friend about that all day, like bitch, guess what the motherfucker said, Like am my trip in? Like you know, I know

how I could get So they don't want that. But when it's like constant and it's like, well, this person fucking sucks because this is your fifth thing of saying, yeah he did kind of annoying and I don't think it's a shitty person and now I hate him for you, So that that's something you gotta think about. True, That's true. And yeah, even family like Yeah, they'll choose to be like, well, we' actually don't fuck

with this person anymore. Yeah, and that's fair like that, you know, like you don't have to, but the person that's with them doesn't have to leave them either, you know what I mean. Yeah, And it can get to a point sometimes where like you're not as close to that, like that's I don't know if that's happened to any of you, but like it's happened in my family, where like the cheater was forgiven and now because everybody knows, it's kind of like like we don't really fuck with them no

more, like they're still around. They come over because whatever they're together, they have kids or whatever it is, and then you're kind of like, hey, what's up, But like you don't you're always upset for them, you know, right, even if you've decided, even if they decided that they're forgiven or that you still want to be with them, because that's you're

definitely your choice. You know. The people that love you are always gonna think that you deserve better than what you have, you know what I mean, even if it's the most amazing person, even if it's you know, yeah, to share the great things that I was going to be like, well, they could do this different because no one's perfect. So it's definitely people's politics. I mean, I definitely see myself, Like one thing I

pride myself a lot on is being understanding. I don't pride myself a lot of things, And like I think my mom taught us very early to like to be very forgiving, and that does being put up with shit, because trust me, like she wishes I would put up a more shit. And maybe I need to do better at like doing it myself. But I will say I do give my friends and my family a lot of grace when it

comes to stuff like that, even like something as bad as cheating. One thing I don't fuck with is abuse, like kidding that you'll be in my bad graces and I don't want you to get back to that person, and that it takes me a while to get over, even like offer someone like probably would it. Yeah, But like even things as like I fidelity and stuff like that, Like honestly, I remember one time I was talking to this old coworker friend I worked at so fucking find joy department in Macy's.

I'll never forget she had like this boyfriend, that he was shitty, like you know, you didn't be or anything like not hellly shitty, but like he just he kind of suck. He wasn't a good boyfriend. Yeah, and I'll never forget. Like we're expenting about it, and like, you know, I was just giving her advice and then her reason for getting back to him. She literally said, she's like, you know, Angula, I'm just not done with him. Like I know, I'm not a dumb

bitch. I don't need to be told that. She wasn't saying this to me, just like in general, she was saying, like it's not that I'm don't know that he's doing bad things or that I deserve better. It's not that I don't know that I'm not like this dumb bitch. I like love his blind kind of thing. I know that I just am not done with him. And I thought that was so powerful to be like, yeah, I know none of the shit, Like I'm just not done with this

person. I'm not taking her seriously. This is not that my husband. Like when i decide I'm over being treated this way or like don't want to deal with it, then I will make that decision. But right now I'm not done with him, and I'm gonna go back to him and love that.

Actually I did love that. And honestly, when my friends, I mean, it does get to a point I think when it's it becomes very repetitive and like you know, cause I've actually friends who are like I see their like mental health like goes severely down and does get to a point where I'm like, please stop. Like I will understand everything. I don't mind. I would never judge you for going back to an X someone that's shitty,

or like forgiving something that's even unforgivable. Like I'm very understanding and I'm not judgmental, So I'm not gonna be the ones like, well, I'm not fucking with that person until it does until I see you like get to that point. So I guess like for that too, it's like hard for me to like talk to other people about too, because I'm just like, I give you this grace, like y'all need to give me this grace because

and I also just feel like my thing wasn't that serious. That's a point where like obviously it annoyed me enough to talk to you guys and like talk about my podcast, but at the same time. That's how also not serious.

It was that I could talk about it on the podcast, not saying I don't talk to you guys listeners about serious shit, because I do, but like I don't know if it was like really big to the point where I'm like crying, I don't know, I would I kind of think twice about it, sorry, guys, Like I even have this problem on the morning show, Like there was stuff where I'm like, I don't want to talk about this because I'm dealing with it now, like it actually does hurt

my feelings and like I wouldn't be okay if like you know, JV or someone just wanted to call him right now, Like I'm like, oh, that's kind of like because that like we're like in this play, yeah, you know like this yeah, Like so like that stuff. And in this industry that is hard to balance because you do need to share, like and there's people who do share a lot of personal stuff with grace and shout out

to them for doing it that way. I just haven't found the way to do that, especially me, like I'm single, and like, you know, it's weird exactly. There's peopleho don't take seriously where it's like I don't even care to talk about this person because they're not that serious, you know, and like I'm almost like, you know, that would give them their head big just to know I'm talking about them. Yeah, it's not that serious, but it is just content. Now we're going out to another situation.

But I don't know back to the whole like oversharing. I guess I'm just like I feel like and so I know my friends just care about me in my specific situation, but I'm just like, oh my god, it's really not that serious, like but you like they're treating me like I'm like

taking this like terrible X back. I feel like, Also, maybe it's because this is the only person you've been talking about, right, So it's they're like maybe they're making it seem like like it's like a like a serious theme because this is the one and only person right potentially and he's like the only person I'm dating right now. Yeah, so maybe that's why it's more of like a like like he's kind of grown leave him, like, you

know, because he's the only one. Like, so maybe they think that it's more serious than it is. Also because in this situation about your nail tech, like you didn't update her like how we were updated, right, I'm sure like if you left out a whole bunch of those details and told me about it, and I'm still gonna be like he is not like please drop him. There are other fish in the seagull friend. Yeah. But then on your end, it's like, yeah, like you're just having fun.

But I don't really necessarily that it's in the middle, Like I'm not saying he's nobody. I'm just like I like this person and yeah, maybe down the road if that was, but like it's not a conversation right now, and how do I can't even picture like having a boyfriend right now?

Still, But I get what you're saying, Like it's like, well, this this person potentially could be your boyfriend in the future, like obviously if you're gonna getind your day hend Like that's what at least to if you're either gonna break up or you guys are gonna be in a relationship, so that

it is fair. Yeah, And also, like what you said earlier, you're telling the notes that you're kind of updating them after you've already processed that, you know what I mean, Like you you when you told us, it was kind of almost in real time, and that's what made an Exactly you're showing you and your feelings and how you're thinking about it in that moment. A month later you're kind of like, oh, yeah, that happened,

but I'm not there anymore. Right, You're gonna tell the story, same story, just different different emotions, different passion, different the way you tell it. And that's what I even work because honestly, when you're in it, like I do want the energy for my friends. I want to hear if it's really bad or if I'm tripping, because like my feelings are hurt right now and I'm dealing with it right now, and I need to know, like I need advice for my friends, and I need the same

energy reciprocated. But I guess when yeah, exactly, it's something that like I've already dealt with and like now we're past it, like kind of bringing me back now, like that energy of like hmmm, well you forget, but I didn't, Like this is what's something happened. I'm like, oh fuck, well now it's bring me back to that place of how I felt.

It's like, well I chose to be over it, so like we got to move forward because I'm living for it right right, you know, but I could see where they no text coming from, but not in her defense, but yeah yeah, but also like let's be real, we live in a time where like every little thing could almost be a red flag or

a reason not to go for something. And then again, people with your friends, people that love you, they're gonna they're gonna think you deserve everything, which you probably do, and but every little thing is gonna be like, well, I don't know about this. I don't know about that, to the point where like you forget that we're human and people people fuck up people. There's you're learning just as much. You know, my friend's known me for ten years. This girl I'm dating is a month. Like there's

a lot to cover, you know. So I think another part that like I guess her my feelings are maybe annoyed about it. And again it's like not everyone is like you, and not everyone has the same politics or like same understanding or same judgment morals whatever the hell. But like, for example,

I have another friend and like now is done with her relationship. But I remember when she was taking him back for something I thought that was whack, or even though I felt she could do better once I knew she forgave him, I never was like after that, Okay, well girl, he's trash, like I forgave him with her, or at least moved on. Like even if I'm in the back of my head like that, God does not deserve my friend. I'm not telling her that because I don't want her

to feel like I don't hate him, because I don't hate him. I don't understand. I was not coming from a place I hate. I just think you could do better. And I'm like I'm hoping, like because I know you're still in it, I'm almost hoping, like Okay, I'm just like praying he gets it together because like, obviously you're still in this,

so like I hope you work out. I don't necessarily hate him, and like, I don't want my friend to feel like she can't talk to me about her boyfriend anymore, or like feel like I hate him, or it just be awkward when we talk about it, or even like when we all go out. I don't want her to think I'm like to hate her friend, you know, and or or even make her feel bad about her chusing

to forget him and like staying in this relationship. And again this is there's layers like yeah, obviously, like there's more stuff where like maybe someone doesn't need to feel bad about the relationship or or maybe you need to set a boundary of like actually I'm not okay with this as your friend, but like for little relationshipship that we all deal with, like no one is perfect, like you said, like people do action. Unfortunately, there's not a perfect

person. So I guess that kind of annoyed me too, Like it's like I do that for my friends, Like I just didn't like the energy. I guess it was very much like he sucks. It kind of was like I'm not accepting of him. Almost a little man but already off the bat, you know. Yeah. But then I guess so the other extent, maybe she's like, well does isn't even your boyfriends like to say that, Like I'm doing this? Girls, Just listen, why are you talking back?

Are you talking about? You're right? You're right. I mean, it's it's hard. You have to. You have to if you are someone that's an open book, like I think I am in a lot of things. It's just there's certain parts of my life that I'm like, well, I kind of already dealt with this, so I don't really Yeah, I try to tell or felt the need to bring it up anymore because it already happened. You know, I forgot I was gonna say with that, but

it was good. It'll come back to you what I will say. I think going away, like obviously I'm not gonna be like when I's gonna become this crazy private person doesn't share anything because like that that's just it's just not

me and I I'm solo, So I like talk. I like updating my friends about my relationships and my family about my relationships, and like even if it's like something left casual, like I still like talking about it because this is someone I'm talking to every day or hanging out with every weekend, Like

it's part of my life. I want my friends know about it. But I will say, maybe I'm like going to pick and choose like the stuff I share to you, Like maybe not every single friend needs to know about this one issue I'm going through, depending how they act, like like my like my guy cousins that were kind of talking about like like they're not gonna judge me, for that and not inn and they do want the best for me, and like, honestly, trust me, I feel something serious.

They would be like fuck that guy, but like something like this though, tink a lot about it because they already thought I was kind of overreacting in the beginning, not overreacting, but they were very much like why don't you just text them? You know, like we're over here talking about it, you know, like it's okay to just send a text be like what the

fuck what's up? Like did you die? You know, like let's just get to the point of it, and you know, and then they and then they like make jokes like like they were sending me ghost emojis all day, but like if I'm sure they know what I'm talking to them, and like they're not gonna be like this guy, you know, like they're not gonna give me a hard time about it either, And like I think I just need to pick and choose, like who is who can hear me on

and who knows how I'm thinking? And then people that know you enough to know where you're coming from too, you know, yeah, like exactly like that maybe not hold it against me, and like all I'm not I'm not just picking on a nail tech like no, no, no, yeah, several situations and I'm probably still gonna keep talking to about shit kind of because what you already said, like you're gonna take in all that advice off what everyone has, right, but you kind of we all already kind of know

what we want to do anywhere at the end of the day. Is just a way to be like, Okay, well let me just see what's out there. But at the end of the day, what I usually what you already think is right for you. Yeah, and like what you're gonna deal

with And I honestly like it was a little blessing too. There's stuff I was just thinking about in the back of my head that she said, and I'm like, you know what later on like literally this morning, it's like I needed to hear that, Like, Okay, it's a little true, but like how I'm gonna deal with it is different, and how I feel

about it is different. And like back to what Emma back in the day, not Emma, oh my god, her just because it was my other white friend, Emily, Okay, very similar, okay, similar days MMA's one, but the st Emily back to her short of like I'm just not done with this person. I think that's like, that's what it is. I still want a day to have fun. So yeah, I came to

an epiphany. Actually just now, I think it has to do with the only child thing that's I don't really share because I just feel like I just, Yeah, growing up, I just dealt with everything on my own. I had no siblings to like talk to, like, didn't really talk to my friends about things, didn't really talk to my family about things, so like I don't really know to talk to talk to my friends. So I just handled everything on my own. So I feel like that's really that's how

you grew up. Yeah, And I feel like, and like you said, Angelina, when I do tell you stuff or when I did, like in the past, it was like when I had like my final like straws, I was trying to like talk talk it out. It's like when I need to, I guess, so like when I feel like I don't like we're about to meet that person, You're like, hey, I'm talking those guys like whatever. Yeah, when like I didn't feel like I needed to because I could handle it it like internally on my own, right, right,

so yeah, I feel like that's how I feel about it. So no one is knowing, No one is going to meet my future boot until like our engagement but when yellow meet him period, Okay yeah probably, I don't know, maybe not. Yeah, I disagree engaging because you are really close with your friends. I am like when you're dating someone eventually, like when you get to a certain point. Yeah, early stages, totally get it. But like if you're dating, you want to bring them around.

You're going to hide this person. But my friends joke around and be like, yeah, Angelique, I guess we're not going to know him until your engagement party till do you want that? You want your friends to meet your future husband? No, my daughter. Yeah, but it's seeming like healthy on both ends, like of not saying anything and saying too much, Like there is a middle that I feel like is healthy. Both both can be

extremes for sure, right, and it can be yeah. Yeah, I remember I had a best friend in high school and like her family was so so private, like to the point where like they get mad if you like said anything about anything, Like I don't know it was, I remember noticing it kind of and then I'll never forget my other friend like dated to because she was like, oh my god, their family's so private, right, And I was like, oh so it's like a known thing. That's how

private they were yea. And yeah, it was just like we don't talk about every day, we don't talk about family issues. And I think it really is just how you grown up. I don't maybe, I mean, I know, you guy said your only child, but like in me and this girl's you know, comparisons, like she has a big Mexican family. I have a big Mexican family. She has older brothers. I'm the oldest sister, but we all have siblings. Yeah, And like I think it's

just how we were raised. Like my mom is very like me and mom tell each other everything, and we're very much like talking family. We're gonna talk about our problems. If we're gonna fight, we're gonna have a meeting afterwards, and we're talking about who was wrong, and like you know, we're all gonna apologize to each other, like wons to like discipline us. She would like spake us and then like talk make you talk to her after yeah, like about why like what why and where what hurt your feelings?

Yeah, and and like maybe my friend in high school, like maybe that's not her family was because they're very like we don't we have family. Probably we don't talk about it. No one knows about the issues that are going on in this house, which is respectable to but it just is completely different

from my household. Yeah, because I will say this, I have a huge family, and I think one of the reasons why I'm also very private is because of how close we are, like to the point where like sometimes I don't want everyone to know everything, or like like like we always have a joke me and my cousins, how like if we tell our mom something, all my theas are going to find out something about it, nothing crazy, nothing big. We just make it as a joke because it's true.

We'll say something and like my thea is gonna know some my my cousin's gonna know. They already knew because I already told them. It becomes that, you know. So I think that's one way that like me and and the specific set of cousins that I have, that we're kind of like we need to, you know, but we don't love how close how much people find out about things. Everyone's going I trust my family and everything, but I

don't care to hear what all of them have to say. So like a media family and like the whole family, and like going back to the only child thing. I have cousins that I'm really close to, but I didn't live in the same city they did, so like you go through yourself, you process it, and then when I see my cousin, there's things I

talk about to them, but already happened. I'm not there anymore. I'm just telling you about it because I'm close to and I'm updating you about my life, right I mean, And it's all fun until it's your problem, Like of course I want to you know, whatever's problems and blah blah did last night? Yeah, family know about this. I don't know if you if you do too, But I have like the the some people in our family that's like they know they're in everybody's business, but to them, they

don't want everybody to know anything. And it's like, no, if you're gonna be an open family, you got it. We all got to do it, you know, right, the pros and cos are having a big family. Oh yeah, you could be mad about it, but to an extent, you gotta be like, well, this is just family exactly. My family is pretty like private. I don't know if it's to the point where your friends like how your friends was, but we don't, like I don't personally. Yeah, I guess it's how I was raised, but I

don't personally tell other people like our family issues. No one really knows, like what goes on, like like our internal like fights and stuff, and I don't know. I guess, yeah, just how I grew up and how my family was, like no one knows, like it's interesting or like my whole family could be broken, like no one talks to anybody, and y'all wouldn't even know, right, see, my family's opposite, like we

know, we know too. I think it's a cultural thing though, because at least for us, like all my family, it's only a few generations back that they were also the same little village that everybody knew everything, even when you don't want even if you didn't tell them, you know, yeah, and it kind of just passes on. And then now that we're here and all scattered, we still yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know how you think from us, I think, you know, maybe it

is and maybe my friend. Her family was like very private because exactly because of that reason, like, well, we know we have a nosy family, so we need to be as private as possible because just like her immediate family that was that way. But like for media, family is a big household. She had like two brothers, like she was like the only girl or hurt. She had another older sister, but like hella siblings, you know, like and say with me, like I got my brother and my

sister, like my mom, my stepdad. We got an uncle living in the garage, you know, like like brother's house. So like it's like even though I have a little family, like it's a big little family in this one household. So yeah, I mean it is just interesting. I don't think that I necessarily like have a solution to this conversation we brought up. Like it's literally just a conversation. Yeah, and it's interesting, Like yeah, it all goes back to like how you're raised and like how you

acted when you were younger and like amongst your friends. And I've always been like an oversharer. I'm an open book and I don't think and vice versa, like you know with someone that's private, I don't think it's like bad or good on either end. Like, I think there's a lot of pros to like being a private person obviously, like seeing the other side, like my cons, but I also like love that I'm an open person too, and I've seen the reward of it going back to so yeah, it's just

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so surprised. I've been this guy for like a year or so. I was kidding. If you came to us with something like that, I would have never guessed. That's how much of right now I think of you and be like, oh, she's single either, I don't know. I really don't know about I remember when she came out that she had a boyfriend.

We were all like we found out at her birthday because he was there, and everyone was like, she has a boyfriend, and I'm like, yeah, like five years like this, No, I did like hiding from your coworkers because the workplace different, but like I'm like her power of being that private, like workers don't watch it, you know. No, but that's

what I feel like. Okay, I won't wait until marriage or proposal, but I'm gonna pop out like your coworker of dating for five years and then everyone was gonna be shook, like, yeah, I got a man. Yeah. And also he was like kind, so she probably didn't want to like wrap him like that. Like I'm wanting place to brag about you. But you guys have dated. We're just bad people and I didn't want to

know. I'm just kidding. I definitely, I don't know. I don't know, but I feel that too, Like I think there are some people who I know I definitely don't take seriously and like exactly like we make these

days like obviously for the podcast to protect them. But even when I'm talking to my friends, I'll be like, oh, slow bay, like because I don't care about like this is this person I'm not dating I don't take seriously, is like a hook of one and done kind of not one and done, but like exactly like my boyfriend and Dan, we don't even want to go on dates with you. You know, there's there's some people you just don't take seriously, and yeah, you choose at least I guess.

I don't choose to not talk about them, but I choose how I talk about them, Yes, yes, and in the context I talk about them, and how much I talk about them. So there's layers. There's layers to the ship. Layers. If that subscribe button give us a like we love you and we will talk to you next week. They if you just agle wack it, just agle wack it just Ago wack it. Question just a wacke it just Ago wack it. The recon card w