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we'll talk about what's do in Bitch. But in this week's episode, in for the Culture, we are talking about J Cole doing the most J Cole thing possible. And let's talk TV. Some fire movie trailers have it dropped, And in Bitch we give an update on our lives. I got an update on Carpenter Bed, so by all means, let's get to it. This is for the culture, for the culture, for the culture. This is where we pick a headline and ask if they, she or he did

it for the culture. You guys, J Cole did the most J Cole thing possible. He really did this. Man dissed Ketchrick Lamar on a Thursday and apologized by Sunday he did, so let's I mean, I guess if you've been living under a rock Metro in Future drop their album we Don't Trust You, And on there they have a song called like that is Hard a sample to Everlasting bass sample and Ketchach Lamar is on there, and I feel like everyone gets really excited because Ken Drake drops every now and then, like

now he's hat the surprising Us, but he definitely took jabs at Drake and J Cole and he's talking about first Person Shooter because you know, a lot of people are trying to say he wasn't as direct, but I'm like it clearly was a jab. He said first person Shooter when fuck the Big Three, it's just big Me and yeah, people were in a tizzy about that. J Cole surprise drops an album. What was it like a week later?

Maybe m M two weeks later, yeah, yeah, it was like this past Sunday, maybe Sunday before, yes, yeah, last week whatever called my delete later And on the last track is seven minute Drill where he is coming for Kendrick Lamar and honestly gave him some bars a little bit. I'm I don't hate j Cole You guys, right, But and I used to love him when I was like in high school, but here you grow up in your taste cal Like, I really don't hate him, but like

he is, I'm like a big rap fan. I'm a hard critic and he is a little corny to me. That's some suspect bars that I just cannot get past. And yeah, he just became a little bit of a snooze fest to me. I'm not gonna lie lately, okay, but when

he when he first dropped it, I'm not gonna lie. And I'm not saying Kendrick's Verse was overrated because I like like that, like and something that does put it over similar to what Drake dig to Meek Mill is that like it's a club record, Like people want to dance to it, Like that's the best thing you could do in a dis if it's something people are dancing

to and just like bumping. Yeah, I saw someone tweet like, uh they play like that the hair salonise girl started to working, Like if you could do that and just someone at the same time, like that's he It's really gonna be played everywhere. So I love like that. I played it in the in the in the gym, like that's like one of my go to songs, like it gets me going. I will say J Coles was

a lot more direct. Yeah, Like he was very much like Kendrick fucking talking to you, like justographies trash all this shit that he was saying. You know. But wo that being said and back to Kendrick, I feel like Kendrick did just have that one bar which was still a little little ransom das it was more of a warning shot. It was Kendricks wasn't like a full disc. It was like a little warning shot like hey y'all, calm down, I'm still the best. Yeah, fuck y'all. So what I

did respect about J Coles was that it was more direct. But did I agree with anything he said, Like he tried to say tip a Butterfly wasn't good? M Yeah, questionable question. I know a lot of people that I like that album personally. I can see why some people don't. It's not for everyone, but there is something about J Cole and iking it. Like if you were to tell me was J Cole's favorite kend I thought it would be butter Fly or you know, people do those like Twitter threads where

it's like rappers as shoespers as Kendrick Lamar albums makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense now that I'm thinking about it, thinking about Kendrick's whole discard graphy. Yeah, right, jakele would be that, I'm like you lying as like I just don't believe you, and then like I forgot what the other bar was, like, oh, like if he ain't disoniss we wouldn't be discussing him if he ain't dissini uced or something along those lines,

like we're only talking about you ever to come back and disc people. But it's like, literally in first person shooter, did you not name him right exactly? Top three rapper? Yes he did. I was gonna say that. I was going to say that, so you were discussing him in your latest single exactly, and now so the fact wasn't mathing. I don't.

I was still giving him points. I was like, wow, yeah, how did you feel about disc in the first case, he definitely wouldn't have done that if Kendrick did not fire those warning shots, because yes, I was gonna mention he did say that he was top three, right, Like, I wassah, that's kind of crazy. He's like, but I digress. Yeah, I know for real, second thought up to him, Yeah, giving it's kind of giving wishy washy. Yeah, but I was like, are these bars? I don't know, but I will give Jake Cole

the proz for being direct. Shook shut up, and I'm not No. I am kind of hated on this album, the Big Steppers album, because on Twitter everyone was basically defending to Pimp a Butterfly, like whether it's trash or not, because he has some other bars about like he tried to use uh he basically sole like all of jay Z's from Takeover, Like that's a lot of hot album every ten year average. Like he said something similar, but it's like Jake y'all drop albums at the same time, like that time

frame. He said, y'all dropped the same amount of albums in that time frame, Yeah, the same Like it just wasn't making sense. But like, I'll give you an a for effort, because, like, like I said, it's more direct all that. Ship of course had to he had to respond, He had to say something, and he did it was he did he drive it home this question at his own music festival, what is the dream film? So it's called Yes, apologize for ninety seventy two hours,

you guys, seventy two hours he took to apologize. Let me pull up the audio so you can hear what he had to say. I put out this project on Friday called Mike Delete Later. I don't know how many people don't checked it out or whatever. I put this project out, and I swear to god, I'm so proud of that project because I know one is just a leader. It's just an EP that leads me up to this thing that I've been working on for a long time, and I know the

work it took to get to a certain type of skill level. And I love this shit, so that shitn mean a lot to me writing. So I'm so proud of that project, except for one part. It's one part of that shit that make me feel like, man, that's the lamest shit I ever did in my fucking life. And I know this is not what a lot of people want to hear. I know I can hear my niggas up there right now, like, nah, I don't do that, But

I got to keep it one hundred with y'all. Right. I damn near had a relay as right, because I heard the ship that happened two two three weeks ago, however long it was, y'all, y'all, y'all heard that from Zuker that was dropped on the motherfucking game, right, So, all of this time of me moving on my own accord, for the first time, I was tested. Why am I tested? Because I got the

world and I got my niggas, like what you gonna do? Call exactly my niggas, like bitch boy, I must have had a thousand in this cause, oh my fucking guy, text flooded. I couldn't even answer my ship nigga's war time boo. Right, niggas want to see blood. And I was conflicted because one, I know my heart, you know what I mean, and like, I remember you how I feel about my peers, these two niggas that I've just been blessed to even stand beside in this game,

let alone chase chase their greatness. Right. So I felt conflicted because I'm like, bro, I know, I don't really feel no way, but the world want to see blood. I don't know if y'all can feel that, but the world want to see blood. So I say all of that to say in my spirit of trying to like get this music out. I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I moved in a way that was that I feel spiritually feel bad on me, Like like I try to like jab

my nigga back and I try to keep it friendly. But at the end of the day, when I listen to it and when it comes out and I see the talk, that shit don't sit right with my spirit. That

shit makes me feel that shit disrupts my fucking peace. So what I want to say right here tonight is in the midst of me doing that and in that shit trying to find a little angle and downplay this, this nigga's fucking catalog in his greatness, I want to say, right now tonight, how many people think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest motherfuckers to ever touch a fucking microphone? Dreamville. Y'all love Kendrick Lamar? Correct as do I. This is all it is, so Corney. Oh my god, Wait,

that's my first time hearing the full thing. I was conflicted. Yeah, to my point, To my point, Jay said, Jay Cole said all that stuff just to say something because he had to say something. He felt pressure. Yeah, he felt pressured. So that's why nothing he was saying really like nothing really hate like and there's so many people that like, I know, they love j Cole and they're like, you've never been a situation where you know you fucked up, like he's maturing and like, you know,

we can't be like rooting for violence. First of all, the whole violence take. I need everyone to stop it, like this is rap. It's fun. Like everyone was tweeting like this rap is a sport and part of it is the beef. It really is. It really is A man that said, you've been on my mind, like Kaepernick Nilan, I'm not thinking, oh man, he's gonna shoot Kendrick, like it's gonna turn the violence. The man that said, I let you feel like this shit,

but you can outfart me. No one who's believed that was like guns and violence involved. I promise you they both like or like semi conscious wrappers or like you know, talk about like deep shit like even Kendrick. I mean, Kendrick, I don't know. I don't think they would have got there. So everyone talking about like, oh, we can't promote violence, like shut up, shut up, shut up. It really did give. I

felt pressured. I had to say something, so I said something. And that's like straush am I thing if we're gonna call him mature, like the mature thing would have been, I respect him if you just never said anything, but you already said some shit, so stand on your ship. Yeah, but to go back and apologize is so fucking corny, Like I've never seen anything like this in my life. Agreed, Agreed. I hate rap music right now. I didn't. I'm not gonna lie. This not my

big three, not my victory. But that's crazy. And anyone like trying to cap for this, you're crazy. I don't want to hear. I don't want here know it was mature. We need this, no bruh and he dm your like needs rap probation, Like I feel like you should go to like rap jail or something like this. He probably apologized because what he was saying wasn't like, it wasn't good. But then we just apologize a lot of people there. I don't know if I agreed, because okay,

my timeline was definitely divided. But even for me, like I liked J Cole's diss I thought he was bugging about tipip A Butterfly and I was gonna mention this earlier, like a little Joki joke. Ain't nobody defended the Big Steppers album though, Yeah, And what I will say, there's there's like three songs I do funk with on there? What is it rich Spirit? I keep calling it rich PARI it's not. And I wasn't there for it. I wasn't. I wasn't feeling it. I don't know it. I

do that that song, how does it go? I already forgot? See, wasn't that great? No? Really, she doesn't know y'all? Are you strap? Brother? Like? I love that song, but I'm trying to think of the chorus because it's funny, but I can't think of it right now. I'm just having a rain part. I'll think of it later. But to me, it was an album that it's like when you see a really good movie, but you're like, I'm never gonna watch that movie again, Like it's replay value just wasn't there for me. It's not my

favorite Kendrick album. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, there was a lot of hypho it because I get at the storytelling all that stuff, But it wasn't it but it's funny because he does that one to annoy one, like not a lot of people were defending it, like it's like, oh, might have been true. I did like what he said, like I actually was exciting becau this does shake shit up. Like I love Kendrick.

I'm a big fan, but there is stuff like when we talk about the goats that I will argue with people, Like there's a lot of stuff that I'm like, I don't know if Kendrick is there, you know. So I was excited about this and then this motherfucker just like went all the way back on it, Like I just I can't wrap my rinder around the fact

how corny this is. And I think the mature thing to do if if you are going to talk about that is more like, well, don't blame it on your boys were pressuring you, you know what I mean, Like that's not really yeah, and you know what, the main question, the main warning shot was like that you not like that, and you just proved that period. So like that definitely wins now, Like I would have gave Joe Colt if that was like a battle, maybe give him point, but

he just lost all points. And now you need to go to rab jail and sit in his little corner. Lakolmar One, j Cole zero Yeah negative bro on the map count boy card though has dropped. So good, so good? What do you guys say? Okay, So for me, I think my favorite is definitely I like Levigene so much. Really post Malone sounds on that s it's so good. I don't just like post me on. I saw him live. He's like a good performing I forget, like, oh you got that song young, but I'm not in love with him.

But I was like, oh, like, you're talented. I'm in love with him. Bro that he went off on that so good. Okay, So Levi's Jean's top tyrant crazy. Yeah, what about you guys, it's almost wanted. It's good to Oh my god, Bro. Her and Miley Cyrus' vocals like blended, so perfect. Miley is on the whole track, She's singing the whole time. Yes that is, that's not that's we're both on a chair together. They're like going back and sport like together. I

haven't heard a true duet like that in a long time. On they don't make him like that anymore, especially from her, you know, like don't do that exactly, And I mean I always love Miley Cyrus' vocals, like even I'm not the big Bangers fan like that era either. Yeah, respectfully here that's like his favorite. Yeah her when she was like in her crazy face, I remember like kind of being over her. You just feel like she's annoying and I'll never forget. She came out with her MTV Unplugged and

she did a cover of Arctic Monkeys. Why do you want to call me when you're high? And when I tell you this bitch snatched all her respect back like it's honestly one of my favorite covers, like ever, like it's in my top ten favorite covers. She flipped it. And even if you like, go on the YouTube comments because you know, like people who are like into alternative and like rock, they can't wait to shit on the pop bitch, you know, like they hate it. Everyone of the comments is

like, damn, I love art and Monkeys. I gotta give it to her, Like I don't even fuck with but this is Hella good Like she like flipped it, made her own song. She fucking killed it. I need to watch it. I'm gonna play for you right after this fucking episode from this, but wow, absolutely kills it. So I always like had respect for Miley's vocals at least even when she like annoyed me as an entertainer. I love her now Honestly, I love Miley as an artist all around.

But no, she did that. I have Bodyguard on repeat. You do take the top off off my fucking jo. Yeah, I al really have like turls in my head that I want to make to it, like I just pretude a wrong com like, like yes, honestly, that's how I feel about Leva Junes. Yeah, I just I haven't played I've listened every time I've listened to the album. I've listened to it from start to finish. I haven't chosen the song yet that's my favorite because I take it

Beyonce really seriously and it's really hard for me right now. I need you got asked me like a month from now? No, because yeah, I don't know. I don't know for sure, and I feel like it's gonna change every week to like I'm always every day. That's how it was a renaissance too, like this is my favorite and then like my favorite now was not my favorite when it first came out like it was probably my favorite for the first time and now like probably Alien Superstar, you know what I mean.

Like transitions on this album, Yes, Solowless so good. I do, I will say, because yeah, I'm like you two baby, but

I will say I do. I don't know if I have a favorite, but I do love the second half of the album more than like I was gonna say that, I was gonna I think it's a good transition into renaissance too perfect like all she made this way before, like it goes right into it, and well, yeah, that second half is very renaissance e. And I saw that, you know me with like theories and all this stuff, I well, no, this is actually this was actually kind of cool.

So I saw one a little bit after the album dropped, and it said something about like like how cool would it be if Act three is like really the beginning, so like say, like you have to plan the backwards for them to make sense, and because of the whole second have been very like renaissancey, they're kind of thinking like okay, like it kind of transitions

into it perfectly. So imagine like a trilogy art piece that's like you could hear it from the chronological order that she released it, but then also reverse like that's pretty sick, that'd fire. But I have a theory that Act three is going to be a straight bounce album like the Way River Dance. A lot of the records have like very bouncy feelter and I can hear it just being like straight up like New Orleans, I'm here for that. A

lot of people are saying rock. I know, I heard that rock and gospel, which I thought was interesting, but I don't know if she'll do that. I thought rock would make more sense just because she's very in her like we're taking back what's ours, you know, like this is a big fuck you to like those white and like this album literally was made off her being petty because some white people pissed off and said you can't be here. So she was like, bet, I'm about to make it. Liked fucking

album period, So it would make more sense for her. That's rock because like literally Elvis, everyone, every famous rockstar you could think of, hes still from black rock stars, like it started with black music. Sidebar, did you guys have seen that clip of like Dave Girls, how they still from the Gap band? No? Oh god? That might be the end clip for this, but it just goes to show like people are Everything starts with black musicians. But he's talking to Pharrell and he basically says that smells

like teen Spirit. They stole all that ship from the Gap band and when he met them, he was like, dude, I've been stealing from you for years, and the guy was like, I now I think I've seen it. Yeah, fire, but that'd be cool. She did a rock one, but I am kind of reading for a Bounce album. But you know, Beonce is gonna make it fun either way. Yeah, I'm rooting

for it all. I'm excited either way. But this album is really perfect and it's exactly like like you said AV two, Like it's really sensitive about

Beyonce and we really got to sit with it. But I'm already feeling like this is like one of her best albums that she's done, like the production, the vocals, helf she said this is she tells that keep coming out like she was at a iHeartRadio Music Award, she got the Innovator Award presented to her by Stevie Wonder Iconic Iconic and then just casually, as you know,

he's like announces her. He's like about to leave, and she's like, oh, thanks for playing the harmonica on Jolene, like what and it just like random to like, oh yeah, they willly Nelson to do like the background guitar likes like random legendary ship, Like she's really all about the details and it shows. Oh I love the one that for all produced the sweet Honey. Yeah that would go crazy too. But yeah, river Dance right now is like on repeat for my uh playlist. That's a good one.

Okay, Okay, that's my damn a little squat Okay, guy. You know what, A lot of people are like criticizing the whole like writer's

credit thing and how there's like a bunch of people on it. But I kind of like that she did that because a lot of people are finally getting like recognition that never did before, you know what I mean, So like now that all these songs are charting, Like Linda Martell, for example, just like is finally on the top one hundred on Billboard, which she deserves to be years ago, but I never had the chance, and had it not been for like giving her credit, you know, those kinds of things

probably wouldn't have happened, So I applaud her for that. Yeah, and I guess, but it's like a lot of those artists that you think did all on their own, like they just exactly, they just haven't credited the people that they need to, yeah, books, whether it's in the songwriting, whether or like there's people like you see cases come up all the time, like hey, you actually stole that whole ship from me, you know, like like bands come out of nowhere, like actually, yeah, that

sounds really familiar. I'm finally gonna get my piece for it. So exactly, I agree with you ab on that one, but I love it still

running it exactly. I don't know if I have a favorite honestly my favorite, I I my favorite or might just like infatuated with it at the time, you know, like the Sun is coming out, that's a song like right when I get in my card as a song per song, I play and then I like play the album and then I feel like there's categories for me too, because I think about, like what's my favorite song, like

vocally, what's my favorite song? Lyric wise? Dead lot? Yeah, fully becoming to me like an all time Beyonce record, Like it's the top five greatest song She's ever met. And I love Daughter. I really like Daughter. It's very like dark and very like Yeah, it's about Beyonce, like like a surface on the surface, it's like her getting rid of over some girl for doing god knows what. We think it's like cheating or something, you know. But then when you like peel back the layers and look

deeper, like there's so many ways you can apply it. And I don't know, like lyrically, I really like that one too. Uh yeah, I love shit Talking Beyonce. Hot Take the Joline is not my favorite. Uh it's might be my least favorite from the album the least I'm going to the least for me. Okay, this is my thing. I love Beyonce like it's fun. I will listen to the cover there is I and I love Shittalking Beyonce. It's my favorite Beyonce of all the Beyonces there is.

But there's nothing about Joeline that's like very vulnerable and like that's like the whole theme of the song, and like Beyonce is a vulnerable at all in it. It's more like fuck you you know what I mean, which I like, I said, I love shittalking Beyonce. But like for Joline, that's what makes the song so great is that Dolly is so vulnerable and so like defeated like in the record. So yeah, that's all I'll say about that

one. Maybe you can interpret it both ways too, though, you know, like maybe if it wasn't Beyonce, but like like if if you're talking all this shit, like sometimes there are people, probably not Beyonce, but there are people that like talk hot shit because they're vulnerable, because there's insecurities there, you know what I mean. So if you look at it from that angle, maybe, but coming from Beyonce, she's not known to you

know, she's known to be a bad bitch. Like yeah, yeah, well in that same message, I mean, no, I don't think that's being vulnerable, but I will say we already have anthem of that, Like sure it's being mad about the situation for sure, but I feel like we already got that with Ring the Alarm, Like that's that kind of anthem right there, So like that was kind of already fulfilled with me with Ring the Alarm, and I just wasn't getting Angeline, like Joelne's a record to be

vulnerable and sad like, that's totally not what she's being at all in that record. If I have to choose between ring their Alarm and Joline ring the Alarm, yeah period, right right right. So as far as like the theme and the message, that was already fulfilled for me. But I'm not I'm not hating on now. I'm just saying like it's probably my least favorite for out of all the okay, all the songs, but I love that one. I think it's perfect. I'm gonna need her to hold off though.

On and I was a tour tour. I'm gonna say I got the batch trip coming up, man. I got my off here ready. I'm wearing my Halloween Yeah, my Halloween costume. I was a cowgirl. It was so cute. I learned that to be next tour. So I got my offit covered. I don't have it like because that I don't have it owned, but I have a outfit already in my head. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I read I have a few literally Beyonce doing the culture always. J Cole absolutely not. Let's talk some TV real

quick. I haven't really been on my TV game, but what I did do is for the very first time. Before I say this, you guys, I just want to let you know. When I was younger, my mom was so strict. I couldn't watch anything. Like I was not allowed to watch American Pie, which I'm gonna bet right now I still haven't seen ever crazy, but I was not allowed to watch anything. I was allowed. I watched wrestling. That's it. As a kid channel, you got

wrestling. Yeah. I was able to watch wrestling Disney Channel, which oh quite on set. We're not even get to that, but I guess she watched some of those shows either, uh Nickelodeon. With that being said, these past couple years, I've been doing some catching up on some TV shows and I finally watched Sex in the City for the very first time. I actually just finished it last night. The series, Yeah, I get the hype. I did love it. It is. It's a great background show.

Yeah, to have on I don't know. I don't know if it's because they finally put it on Netflix. I watched it on HBO though, but it's crazy, Like on my timeline, there's been so much Sex in the City like trends and talks and about how like Carrie because she's the main

character. Now she's just like insufferable and like, what is like there's one right now where it's like, where's her worst moment and people are like stitching it it is, And yeah, I agree, But honestly, in the beginning because my friend, one of my good friends, Christina, she like already watched. She's the one that was like, you need to watch Sex in the City. So I was like, Okay, I watch it. I think we watched episode together. We had like a little wine night,

and I was like, it's okay. But then I like got hooked on it, like I do. And the first couple of seasons, I was like, I don't get why people hate Carrie, Like I've sucked with her. I thought she had a personality, bitch. I don't know if it was season five, but when they cut this bitch's hair off, short hair was nice and they got rid of her personality when they got rid of her hair, because like, that's when she becomes insufferable. Samantha best character.

Did you guys watch Sex and City? I was gonna say, I've never seen it either. I have seen like one of the movies they made it, unto a movie. I've never seen it. I saw one movie, No, not all of them, and I've never seen the show. Yeah there's like about it, right, like or like yeah yeah there's yeah, yeah yeah yea that the situation still remove. I don't know who's Sarah Jessica

Parker's character Carrie Brett. Okay, I know the character Samantha, that's the one who doesn't come back, which now I totally understand why people were mad, because she literally is the best character. She's like I don't want to call her a home but she's very you know, she's open with her sexuality, like she obviously around with anyone she doesn't care. But she's also the reallest one and like the most truest to herself and very like I don't give

a fuck. She tells me how it is. But she's also like low key the greatest friend on there. We love that. We love a good friend. She's such a good friend. And then there's this other girl, Charlotte. It's four friends. So Charlotte is very she's like kind of a prune, but I love her. She's actually my second favorite character. She's starting to teet to herself too, and she's a good friend. We love good friends we love? Are they all good friends or no? Carrie,

it carries a little trash. I'm not gonna lie. She has some she has some moment. I literally just said she was a good friend. Carrie, Charlotte is a good friend. Oh sorry, sorry, I don't know. Is she like Phoebe? From Friends? You have to say people friends. She's one of my favorite characters, but I think out of all of them, she's like the most shittiest friend if you really look at it. What if you really look at them? Disagree? No, you can rewatch

it? No, tell me, please give an example, Like I love Phoebe. I'm trying to think going off the in my head, but like she's always the one that's like looky, like not like she's the funniest one and everything, but like she's lokey, the one that like will put you down or will like say your ship out, like you know, Like I'm trying to think of an example, but you gotta watch it like low key. When you look at it, you're like, dang, like Phoebe,

like that was that was harsh? You know. No, I'm gonna have to look back and you have no. I love her. She's one of my favorite characters. But when you look at it, she's so sweet to Joey. She's also really real, but sometimes it's like she like, out of all of them, she might be. I feel like she talks shit,

but like it's a ship that they need to hear sometimes. Yeah, I've never heard her say an thing where I'm like, oh, that was so and Phoebe shouldn't sure I could find a TikTok on now send it to you, Okay, okay, Well, because I have my theory is that Ross is the most trash one out of all that. Oh he's yeah, he's a little He literally hooked up with one of his students. It was barely legal. Crazy uh like debated and almost dated one of Rachel's friends.

Like if my boyfriend ex boyfriend ever dated my sister to even think about it is crazy. Like he respected her when she finally said no, but like the fact that he even thought about doing it. Yeah, trash. He uh shit it on Phoebe when like she thought that the cat was her dead mom. He's such an asshole, like damn bru let her think who's acount her dead mom? I would agree. I have to say Ross and Okay, maybe they weren't on her break but you didn't even wait twenty four hours?

Yeah, like yeah, let me count the ways this man is crazy, great character, like he has this funny moment, but as a friend and as our person, I think he's the most trash one. I would say so too, Yeah, wouldn't sa Phoebe is what I would say. That's kind of I'd have to think about it, I think about I would have to, but I don't. I would like to hear one. Yeah, I disagree. I'll be back on Sex and City. Samantha best one,

Charlotte Prune but second best. And there's Miranda, who I guess is cool, but like she's only kind of interesting when her boyfriend's around, like her small storyline. I'm like, oh, at the beginning, I liked her, but then I was like, huh, I just want her to get with Steve. So And the reason why I'm refusing to watch the movies is because, like I already rest of spoilers, like they have Samantha and her boothing breakup and they're like so cute together. I'm not ready to see

that. Just stupid, and the writers have my girl fucked up? Will mad spoilers, but they give her cancer at the end. Samantha, there's actually a famous there's a famous gift of like a girl taking her wig off and like pointing, have you seen that? Gu No, I always see it on Twitter, like it's actually from Sex and the City. I was like the Leonardo TV, not her wing, like if it's gonna be like the first one that pops up, let me see, I'm gonna write,

No, it's literally the second one. It's the slow motion point. Wait, Chris, I want to say, I want to see. I don't know if I could turn this around? Could that's all funny? So yeah, the iconic show. Maybe I'll continue. I don't know. I feel like avoid now that it's over. You know what I have watched though, not The City, but I watched Carrie Bradshaw's like her origin story. It was like this girl what is it called? It was Austin Butler was in

it. It's like a documentary or something. No, it was like a I guess you would say a spin off, but it was Carrie Bradshaw as like a teen trying to make it in New York. Like it's like it's her beginning. It was an old show. It was only on for like a couple of seasons and then they canceled it. Let me look it up and see what it's called. Yeah, I guess that shit is iconic though, like it was called The Carry Diaries The Carried, starring Sophia Robb and

Austin Butler. I literally love that show. I haven't seen Sake in the City, but origin, yes, it was so good. I love the c W, of course, I love like the c W. Shit, I love the CW. Maybe it's one of those things where you have to watch that first so that if you've already seen Sex in the City, it doesn't like yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I don't know, I don't know real sex and the City fans signed off in the comments, but have you seen this? Have you seen The Carry Diaries on? The

looks crazy? But yeah, so it was. The Carry's love interest was Sebastian, who was Austin Butler. I loved that's so funny. It was on from twenty thirteen twenty fourteen. So another thing about Samantha, she always kept her a bad one, like she sucks the cutest guys. Really, she's that bitch. She's she is that, and she's rich, like she's the richest friend. We love thought she's like a publicist or like a pr agent or some shit. Good friend always gets with with hot guys rich let

me count the ways. Yeah, like okay, that unapologetic about it. That's what's up period all around. She's so great respect. But we did just watch the Joker trailer. Yes, and I'm not gonna lie that little and shot was hard. The d shot the cinematography on it, who was directed, I don't know, put some lipstick as a smiley face and bro like smiles right into the lipstick. So no, that was hard. I'm not gonna lie. I am weird because it's supposed to musical, right,

I didn't know that. I know they've been We were talking earlier like how off the off the record, how a lot of these like movies are hiding that there musicals because people probably hate musicals and they think no one's gonna go like exactly the color purple. I like, I found out like way later that that was so. I didn't know that that was one. I remember we had like how to do promo for mean Girls, and they were like saying, don't call it a musical. But I'm like, isn't the title

literally like mean Girls the musical? Yeah, but it wasn't. It's not. I think it's just mean Girls. And then remember when they first dropped the trailer, everyone's mad because they're like, there's the music. Yeah, because I feel like that one was more known that it was going to be musical, so they like super tricked everyone. Yeah, but it's like half the their targeted audience knows it's a musical, right, and like now people will almost shit on it more because it's like ill, so it is just

a remake. Like I feel like that's what almost made it more popular, Like that was done for them to hide it either, because why would you? And then the Wonka No Wonka is the one that I did. I was shook it. Yeah, I'm like, yeah they are, like I did. I feel like I saw a tweet but for I'm gonna have to double check. Don't quote me, but I did. I remember I saw

like someone reported. I think it was like deadline or something that they're like, not only not only is it a musical, but they're like covering like known songs. Oh yeah, I wonder if that ruins it a little bit I feel like maybe yeah, because I'd rather see like original songs. I don't want Joker being like and after all, especially because like if you've seen

the first one, like that movie is very like it's intense. Yeah you either loved it, Yeah, yeah, I love it, and lady I go on this one, Like if it was that same type of vibe, I think it would be a really great movie. She'd be a perfect Harley Quinn. Yeah, she's a great actress. Chemistry there and just the trailer alone is like there yeah. Yeah, So I'll probably still see it because I love and the first one was so good to me, so I down

to go watch it. Definitely gonna be watching and being seated for Beatle Juice, Beatle Jeese. Yeah, same, same, I'm excited. I loved Beetle Juice as a kid. Loved Jenna Ortiga and what was the show she was Wednesday Wednesday? Loved her in that I'm not strange things you Yeah, and she's so cool and then all like most of the original cast is going to be in it again. I'm gonna writer so hard. Yeah, I'm excited watching the trailer and I watched it like a hundred times even my mom,

Like it's like she's like, oh, we're seeing that. Yeah, can I come restie? Yeah a lot, her best friend I can coming along days. It's kind of kind of a topic. But there's a Beatle Juice restaurant in La I've been there twice. It's pretty sick everything. Yeah, it's pretty sick. I've been there twice. Definitely check it out. It's like a whole like like performance dining experience. So that's pretty cool. That's hard. Yeah, no, I will be seated. Yeah, general

take. I feel like she's slowly becoming like the princess. She's so good, Like she's the only one that could do remakes, and like I'll be interested, especially it's like classic scary ones, like she killed it with Wednesday. She is a killer with this. Yeah, just her whole persona is so like, yeah, she just radiates dark spirits, you know, and she says she loves doing that, so you could tell she loves it because she's really good. She was in a movie that came out called Miller's Girl.

It's not like a dark like scary vibe or goth or anything, but she also had like a dark aura to her character and she also played that well it's so good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for Beetle Juice. I don't know if I'm excited for Joker, but I will be seated. I'll give it a chance. I'm gonna give a chance. I'll givebout the beast attentions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no expectations. Yeah, but what you guys should be excited for is anyone but you

streaming in like late April. Yeah, I think watch it. I feel like I read the twelfth. We should really be like stuff. We're just like for sure, No, it's it is definitely coming, uh in April. Yeah. I don't know why I have the twelve, but I think it's late April. In the twenties, let's see, that was the movie you said it was like one of your favorite movies of all time, but one of my favorite wrongs of all time. I don't know if I say

top three or top five. You said like April twenty third, April twenty third, Okay, yeah, yo, everyone want making his debut and we will confirm if it's one of the best wrong coms. You don't, I love me a wrong com. So I'm excited for that, and I think I'm gonna go see Challengers. I asked for someone from our sales team that she could get me like tickets to the premiere. Okay, Yeah, and I heard the reviews and everyone says, it's like it's a really hot movie.

I want to see it. A lot of three somes going on with you. She did say she wants to stray away from like that those young characters and stuff like that. Recently. I'm excited for what because she wants to grow up or something like that, and I like that. And sidebar, you know she's been doing like the press tour and stuff. The block mon is it. She's so smart. She's like, I dyed my hair because I wanted I didn't want to distract it from what was the movie before.

She was just fromuddy Dune to Yeah. That's like that's some genius right there. And her looks the Tennis let's, but the blonde hair really doesn't her. I'm here for blonde and day. I feel like she should keep it. It's such a look. Yeah, that's what we're looking forward to. Let us know what you're watching on TV on Instagram. We are at Underscore f t R pod. I said, bit if you wanted to go to tailors. Just tell her brother you want to go to Taylor. You

said that? Oh hell yeah, man, I laid it out right, I said, I said, I said, I said, bite bait. Wow. So much has happened, yo. I feel like it's been a hiatus, like a good month. Huh, consider that's a new season. I always wanted to release this like in season. But the only reason why I don't is because, like when I uploaded, it tells you, like, what episode? Yeah, like I want to celebrate when we get to episode one hundred, I feel like it's a new season. It's right.

You got to start for episode and one yeah you know, yeah yeah, yeah it's weird, right, and then a little graphic that we put out, So, I mean, I guess the episodes. Dude, keep going, but this is kind of a new season, you know. That's that's why we took the little break. It's okay, but we just keep going. We had to let stuff we come back, you know, I mean technically shows don't. I don't know. The real reason was because March shows my birthday month. So we had to take a he off. That kicked

it off. I had to take a there's a lot going on, y'all. My boss got a promotion, yes already, he's going to New York, which honestly, like if you know our boss, like everyone in the company always calls him like the smartest, the best, and that's what companies should do, Like your best should be at the best, like you should be at the number one market. It's totally you know, deserved. I'm so proud and happy for him. But yeah, I got the news.

I'm not gonna lie. I was crying my little eyes out. And you know a lot of people in radio, like times have changed with everything, like just people being in office and like people like even talent, like they have to track a million shows like that used to be like unheard of, like everyone's live, doesn't matter what market you're in. So like, so

much has changed. But one thing that like was big when I got here was like a lot of people have jumped a lot of stations, you know, like I kind of got a lot of shit because this was my first station and like it's number four in the market. Like usually don't get to be in your home market, so like I really had to prove myself that I deserve to be here. Because people don't know what you did before. You know, everyone has their own story. Right while people are moving markets,

you know, they're having a lot of different bosses. So why this was so hard on me? It's like marketing, guys, is my my first and only boss that I've ever had, Like i owe this guy my whole career, Like he's the one that took a chance on me, Like I've only learned from him. Like he got the most fucking trash air check for me when I talked even faster that I'm talking now and wasn't making any sense and heard fucking heard something in me and let me be on this fucking

crazy station that I grew up listening to. And this has always been there when I ever hit a wall, and just like always been there for good advice. So like, I took it so hard, you guys, I was so sad, But now I got all my tears out and I'm just happy for him, and I'm excited for the future. And you know, now I got me a good a little connection to New York and I'm sorry he's just one call away. So that's one big thing that happened to me. Also, today is my fifth week or like the middle of my fifth

week in the gym, one month mark's gone of meal prepping. We love that you can see your progress. Yeah, well you so like I heard like to like second or third month, you'll see you feel I'm sure and I feel it in my energy too, like I just feel nicer good for you? Oh you guys, how's life? Life good? As I said, last month was my birthday month at the d Land, the Land of I went to d Land. Okay, wait, wait what does that mean? Okay, mickey mouth, I was like, wait a minute, that

was sober, fun and being me. I celebrate the whole month period every weekend doing X, Y and Z. So I was busy, busy, busy, be having fun with all my friends, all my loved ones. I had a great month. Happy my last year in my twenties. Y'all exit, I know, I'm excited. I'm happy another year of life period. Let's go. How about you? Ab March has been busy. My parents are in Mexico right now, so I'm the only child. I don't

know if you guys knew that, but I didn't. Yeah, wow, holy children, you're like twenty Like a lot of people, a lot of people actually don't believe me when I say that because I don't have that like people. Yeah I didn't know about you either. Wow, Yeah, which is good. I kind of like that, but you can't tell because like I feel like they get a bad rep, you know, totally get like

younger brother es. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, a lot of people didn't, like they can't tell that I am and I'm kind of brother. I'm kind of glad child. Yeah, I'm kind of glad though, because they get a bad rep, you know. But anyway, Yeah, that's why I don't. Yeah, they really do have and I have Hella cousins, so like that. You know. Yeah, you just seem like you do really loved which is still very true, could be true, but I guess you just get that from like people have siblings, you know. Yeah,

I give Angelina. You said you said you didn't. You said I gave only child vibes. Do I really I didn't do that. I didn't know that, Okay, yeah, no, Well what do think you have a brother or sister? Though? I don't know why I thought you did, or maybe I just didn't think about it, but I thought you did. Like, yeah, I've gotten a lot. Like when I tell people

I'm an only child, they're like, you're an only child. I think that as a compliment though, Yeah, okay, because I'm glad that I don't all spoiled to you or selfish or whatever else they say about them to

that, because yeah, you would be spoiled. Yeah, But what I was going to say was because of that, and I'm sure you can relate then that unfortunately, like you have to do everything, you know what I mean, Like like right now that my parents aren't here, I'm like making sure taking care of their stuff on top of my own things too because they're not here, you know, just things like that you're not love that, you don't love that. I am glad I'm able to help, but it

can be a lot. Unless you're the oldest, you're still doing everything right, Okay, Yeah, well that makes sense. My family was gone for a month in January, and I loved being alone. I loved handling our pet. I loved like, yeah whatever, like paying their bills that they had. Yeah. Month, I was like, you know what, this is so fine. I think it's you're happy to help, and I like help, and I'm glad that I'm able to like, it'd be nice if I have some assistance. Sometimes I'm like, dang, I have to go

home a lot. It was not a culture shop, but like a shock and I did live. I lived alone when I was in LA for like what six seven years, so I only had to worry about myself for those that times. So but again I'm glad I'm helping. But it was really busy in that way. Yeah, yeah, no, I feel it. I do have a small update on Carpenter by you guys. Wait, where did we last leave off? I don't even know. I don't know. I don't even think I put that episode out. But it's okay because completely

date now. Okay, Oh, it's been a roller coaster. It's been a little bit of roller coaster, not as dramatic, but I will say things were going good. There was a little something in the road where I felt like he would just being like a little too nonchalant, Like some things came up and it was just like our communication wasn't good and we probably like went the longest of out seeing each other too. I mean, nothing crazy.

I think it was just like a week or something. But usually like he has lands like in the middle of the week, which is totally fine, like we're just dating, so like don't even be seeing each other every day and every weekend. But it was just the way he was going about other things that was like rubbing me the wrong way. But we ended up seeing each other like that following weekend, and I kind of confronted him about

it. I was just like, you maybe better. I just kind of like nudged him to be a better communicator, like in a playful way, and he was like, like, I think there was an instance where he kind of made plans. I don't even remember what happened, but I remember

I changed my plants because off his word, you know. I was like, oh, I'm not going to go to the gym because he's plan of thing out and then it just like never fell through and it and but like he does it in a he's just not direct, and I'm such a direct person. Like he's very like, well, text me stuff that like kind of says that's not going to happen, but like just won't say it.

And I'm like, at first, that's okay, but not when I'm like actually canceling plans because I think you're doing this and you're like beating around the bush like this just like annoys me a little bit, even more so I kind of told him. I was like, it's not a big deal. Like and honestly, that was like a night that I'm kind of glad we didn't hang out because I had a lot of stuff to had to wake up

early in the morning. But at the same time, like you know, I kind of changed my plans, like it's like, you just gotta communicate with me. And he was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, and like agreed, and like that weekend, honestly, guys, I was like and I thought I was getting serious, but we spent the entire weekend together. The entire Yeah, that was a little different, like all day a like went out that night, turned out at the bar. I posted his first of all his hand. It was like a boo was like,

harl you hays like a figunail and the man's hand. I can't I can't knowing about you dating this person. I'm like, is this him? Like who is it? Is? So so turned up. Spent the night. The next day we literally got brunched together, like went out to a restaurant, went on a date, and the night yes, and gut food. You're just gonna brush over that. Yeah, I am bout And then he he do he wants to take one car because he actually lives like closer

to that restaurant we we're going to. So I was like, oh, do you want to take two cars because you want to drive all the way back. He's like, no, let's take one car. Drops me off and is like he made an excuse like, oh, I have to use the restroom, but like didn't go to the restroom. We end up hanging

out. So he had invited his friends over to watch the soccer game, which was like gonna start around eight or something, right, I think it was Mexico gets USA, and so plied him leavesuit and like he literally cancels his plans. We watched the game at my house. We order pizza, he orders beer and pizza, and we like how the whole night just watching soccer And then my ass I made him watch it last week because he never watched. But not him cutting on his friends to hang out with you right

now, this is a really good weekend. Good spend the night again. We had like coffee in the morning and then went on with our lives. So when I tell you the entire week, the entire I was kind of like, oh not because it was getting serious. But I was like, well that was different, Yeah, like you enjoyed it. It was nice. Yeah, you guys. I got the biggest egg from him. What.

I don't want to lead up to what led to this conversation because I don't want to like out anyone or anything, but he just gave me the egg. I don't know how we got to this point. He and we both were drinking, so I will say that don't blame anything on the alcohol. That's bullshit. And I okay before I like make all the excuses. Basically I was trying to hook up. He kind of said that. You know, he did tell one of his friends that he hung out with the

girl the past weekend. That's why, because they were like, what the fuck? What happened to? Soccer and I were over and they made a joke like, oh, hook me up with like some of her friends or something, and I had mentioned someone that we both know and he was like, no, no, that's not his type. So I will say I was pressing in pretty car. I was like, what's wrong with this person? Like tell me, like what what what? He kept saying that it was like N's type that I kept pressing them, and he said, she

does it. She's not that pretty and she doesn't have a nice body. She's not pretty and doesn't have a nice body to the floor. And I was just like in the moment, like obviously we're drinking. I still sucking up with him later, but the next day I was like, I just had the egg so bad because one, okay, you could fucking lie, I get I was pressing him that what I will say, you know, like whatever came out of him. I would never talk about his friends like

that if they were the ugliest, fattest people ever. I don't never feel like your friends are ugly. Also, you would have had a no chanting tato period. No, yeah, crazy crazy you to like talk about friends and it just makes me not want to bring any of my friends around. No for real, Like it's it's cool to be honest, right, but you could easily be like, oh, my friend's on attracted to your friend. Exactly, that's not his friend. And I swear, yeah, that's

kind of type of girls. Yeah, exactly. He could have said it, because did he say it on his friend's behalf or like on his behalf, on his friend's behalf. But he wasn't like he literally verbat of you guys. He was like that pretty shoesn't have a nice body. So I kind of like, like on both this is why I don't think he would like her. No, somebody said that, someone said that about my friends.

It's over what the heck, Rockberry is so much to me. If you're gonna speak like that on my friends, I can't be with you like I have in the moment because I was even vetting to Angela about it, who might have been the wrong person because angelaue was just hyping me up because I was like, I'm about to ghost him, like I was so turned off by it, for real. It's just more like a sign of character, Like it's just like that. It's just like not a nice thing to

say at all. It doesn't matter. And I also feel like when you're dating someone like everyone knows. I was like the golden rules, like to get to a girl like you get to her friends, vice versa. Like

everyone, you usually want to win the friends and the family over. So for you to say that, it was almost like disrespect to me, Like yeah, you should be sucking all my friend's asset seriously, like she could be the ugliest person in the world like that really, so it was kind of like you need to calm the fuck down, and like, also,

who the fuck are you guys like me? And there's ways to say it and my friends are hot, like and it just couldn't be less true, Like I'm not just saying like some I'm this, you know, because it's my friend, Like she is hulla pretty yeah, and like yeah, okay, she's not like super skinny, but she's not like a big girl either,

you know. Like I just I was so turned off. It doesn't matter though I shouldn't even defending her in that way, Like it just was not cool to say so, like honestly, that whole that whole first week. It's been like two weeks now, but like I really was, like I'm fucking coasting him. I don't want to talk to him, Like I just really needed a moment to think. And I talked to Angela after, who, like I said, she was like, yeah, never talked to him again, and I'll text him back, I will say. And I

talked to him another friend about this. It's not even that, but like I just personally am not the ghosting type. Like I think it good and I want to be that bad bitch, but like the other the day, I'm an a doll, like me and this person have literally has sex with each other, like they have hung out with each other. It's not like this guy just men. We've been kind of talking, like me and him

have spent time together. So I think it does need to be a conversation, maybe in person, where I say I don't like the way you spoke with my friends and to never do that again. It's definitely I nearly said that out of like first fit of rage, Like if I heard that, I'm like, I'm talking to this motherfucker ever fucking again, do not talk to him. That's fucking rude, like swinging up on my friends like that.

Hell nah bye. But you know, I also am not the ghosting type, so like, yes, you sat on it, I've sat on it. I agree. I guess it is my question like, is this worth like cutting someone completely off for for me? Yes, yeah, I would say yes, because first of all, you're disrespecting my friends you've never met, like we're dating. I would hope that we will get to a point where I will bring you abound my friends and family. But you are speaking person. Oh yeah friend right, Well, I don't know. I

don't know how if they're friends. Uh. Oh, I didn't know that I know of her kind of thing. Yeah, I might edit this outh the podcast. I don't know, because I don't. I don't want this person know it's about her. But I will say, did I take you us when he got like points? Oh, I did not tell you this?

Okay, fuck I really had this or not you guys, but in that moment when I said, we had a little stand where I thought he was being a little not too nonchalant, something that like got him points back and producer Chris, I don't know if you even heard this, but last time we talked to producer Chris, he's buying the camera. We were just talking about how he's been nonchally and the guys agreed that like he was like being kind of whack. So what gave him some points back is basically I

uninvited him somewhere because he was being whacked. I didn't like his response to it. But the ball of my court, he was hell hitting me up that week to hang out and I kind of was like, oh, like, me and my friend are gonna be here tonight if you want to pull up. But me and my friend end up blacking out. You guys, she's she was going through a breakup. We like drank a lot. We

went to five he spots. I remember seeing him at the bar when he told me he was there, and I don't remember the rest of the night. But this man drove from Redwick City to Oakland to meet up with us, dropped me and my drunk gast friend off to my apartment. I woke up to text saying like where you at come help me? Your friends in my back seat. Like he literally was like over an hour and like literally laid her down on my couch and went back to his house. So like

took care of my drunk gust friend. So he got some points for that and drove and like literally took care of us. And I text him next morning like, oh my god, I'm so sorry I drank too much. Thank you for taking care of my friend and for your taking us home. And then that's when things started progressing, getting better from what I told you at the beginning. So this friend he's talking about is that friend that got blocked out, Oh yeah, first of all, but still on it like

he saw her also blacked out via the drunk bitch. I don't know, but I think that's so Rude's rude. I don't okay, I'm gonna go back all wi And I said, I don't know if it's like I'll cut him off completely forever, like he's a piece of shit like you like scum of the earth, Like it's the bottom of my shoe. But it's just like I'll think about that all the time. Yeah, like is he thinking

about that? I will per se like every day, but like is he thinking about that about my other friends or like my family or like what have you? Like that's just not a nice thing to say, even though that's what you think, Like you don't need it right, you could have said it differently. Yeah, it's how you say it. Yeah, that was just like like it didn't happen to me, and every time, like if I think about it or like if you ever bring it up again, I've

been dodging it. I don't know if I'm overthinking it, but like it really did. It's one of those like are you not the person I thought you were? Like are you actually secretly a douchebag? And like I know that he was like in a frat before, Like I just got like major like your frat boy. Yeah, And I've been dodging him and like even like this past week he like trying to out with me like five times, not five times, but he did to me. I was like, are

you free for dinner tonight? And I didn't text him back till like ten hours later. I was like, oh, sorry, I thought I responded to this like I'm not. I have plans. I literally just had plans. And then he was like, oh, it's all good, like how about this Saturday? And then I and I was like, oh, I might go to satur Rose and I visit my family and he's like, well, if you don't let me know, like I'll treat you to brunch.

And then I I think he texted me again and I said, I said, you know what, I'm actually I think I'm coming down with like a cold, so I'm just going to stay home. And he's like, oh man, it's going around. Well, you know, if we're still filling down tomorrow, like I'm down to bring you some soup, let me know. I know, I literally just loved it, like never hit him about the soup, Like I just loved it and was like uh huh yeah, like I really because I know I need to talk about it when I see

him. Yeah, I think I'm kind of avoiding that, like I'm just like, oh, I'm I already for her to get serious or like no,

but that's it. Yeah, And you guys, like if you think it's like progress seeing and like you see it going other places, it's just I mean, it's conversation something to bring up, to be honest, because even even if it wasn't seriousself, like, I don't want to be fucking dating anyone that's like exactly, Hey, I don't like the comments you made, and it's it's like kind of a red flag to me that you're this

kind of person. So I see to know if you are, you know, but I need to forget how to say that because I can't be that direct probably and it's literally leaving a bad taste in your mouth for weeks. It's been a lot, it's been a while, and you still are like ill, like bad vibes, like gross duck ki. Yeah, so definitely say, yeah, you got to figure that part out. But yeah, because one of my friends have asked me. She's like, well, do you not like him anymore? I'm like, I don't know, I just

know I don't like him right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely a flag raised, right. I'm like, oh, yeah, something to know for sure, because ew, that's gross. Like I'm thinking about it again, and I'm like, I said that about my girls, about whoever, my family, my cousins, whoever. Thinking about it too, because you don't well you don't say that to the they're friends, you know, like, and I get and I am trying to remind myself of the

context. Sorry to catch your friend, but I think I do keep going back to that too, like oh that's all I could get, is that, like you call my friend fat and ugley? Basically yeah, that's what he basically said. Yeah, but I do not that it makes it better. But I'm like, I am trying to pend in context, like we're talking about taking off with his friend, and I was pressing him about like literally saying like why isn't she his time? Why did she his tight?

You know? But the pressure but the pressure shouldn't like yeah, exactly that I give her like something and like if you if you're pushing me that much, even to the point where I'm getting annoyed of you asking, I still don't have to respond like that exactly. Yeah, no, I know.

And it makes my stomach turn just thinking about it, and like me, this isren even that close, but it does make me like fuck that, Like like every time she posts, I like because I'm like she's so pretty, like fuck that guy for talk and I'm like what yeah, And even given like the past context of how they first met, like still like that was a bad first me for them too, but still like and I never had a deal with someone like not getting along with my friends or not saying

they don't get along, but like that's crazy. Yeah. I feel like I see this like in TV shows or something in it where like the husband is saying or the boyfriend or the guy dating is like saying something bad about your friends. I would hate that. I couldn't. I would live with something inside me sitcoms and it's funny, but like being in it, it's like that's not funny. Yeah, it's yeah, things Martin said about I

don't like, I'm like, wow, fall was gena. Actually when I break up with Martin the way he was gonna but they had a relationship like they would clown each other, you know, exactly. But yeah, that was I don't know, I don't know if it's like a deal breaker, I'm I'm obviously it wasn't even it was what he wasn't joking about it is what you're saying. Yeah, like it was at no and like and I get like that's definitely rather like you said, like you're talking about like a

hookup and things like that. But there's just ways to say it, like especially because it's your friend, and especially because if I like you, why would I say it like that? You know, yeah, and exactly, it's just like more to like is this the person you are? You know? Because like yeah, but like in the beginning, it's all good, everyone's nice and like this a gentleman, and it's like, yeah, actually,

what if he is just like this diuchback frat boy. You know, That's kind of what I'm like, Well, it was a race flag. There's a race flag. You're starting to see his colors maybe, like you're starting to get to well, that's what dating is anyways, Like you you know someone and then like things go along and then you see you start seeing who they are, like right, so this is you're seeing him unfold me be like you just you don't know if you ever not want to like a

guy, get to know him. Yeah, no, no, that's so true. Yeah, so I honestly, guys don't know where I stand still. Like I've been joking him, we didn't hang out all this week, I like reade every excuse of the book. I've really was coming down with a little cold. I don't know, but but I don't know. See,

it's still leaving a bad taste in your mouth. It is weeks from when it happened, So it's something worth talking about with him, I think, because I'm just trying to think what is the best thing he could say to me of me saying that, like obviously an apology, yeah, but

it would have to be like I was druking. I can't believe I said that, And I just don't think he's going to say that because you don't know, like, yeah, I mean maybe if there's an explanation or some type of like there's not been an explanation an apology, but I'm just thinking I don't think he's gonna respond in the best way. They don't, like, there's only one way you could perfectly respond to this, and that's apologizing out the ass and being like you're right, but it is it genuine then,

like like can you apologize for saying what you feel? Like? I don't know, no, I would take a genuine apology, like even if whatever, like that's how he talks to his boys, like you know what, I'm sorry, like I was drinking like that that would it just gets

to me like that was foult. That wasn't cool to say about your friends, like like, oh, my friends talkshi about people, you know, like guys that we don't like, Like I've talked about this person literally to you guys like you know, Like but what I dare say that to like your friend or someone so like it just it's it's the context and who you're talking to, and like he should just be like, you know what, that wasn't cool, but I said period, like it shouldn't have been said.

It shouldn't have the way he could go about it, and I wouldn't depressed him if he's genuine, Like that's all I want is just like apology, like is in the locker room or not? One of my boys and like exactly, so you think that he will not respond in that way, is what you're saying. I'm just a little scared he's not going to or it's too scared too, Like I just I like, guys are just so dumb. I can't walk you through this. You know, Well you'll just

have to. Uh maybe I'll just never see him again, you guys, maybe he's taking the hit. Like we has a text me. He's probably like this bitch just man, Well, if you like him that much, I feel like you should say something. We'll see next episode. Let me know what you guys think, though you cant hit me up on the talk back Mike too. If you ever had someone talk bad about your friend that you were hooking up with or dating, how did you deal with that?

Or the time someone just gave you the dick and you're like, what should I immediately regret ever spending time with that person? Not that I'm like fully regrett again, but I'm just like, oh, I mean soon better sooner than later? Right? Oh? Yeah, for sure, I think you could cherish it the past time. It was at that point, yeah, because you didn't know, like you didn't know any better. Like you didn't know he was like this or regretful at all. Right, you know this

has been fun. I just don't want to end. Like I'm like, damn, well, you know, like if you are this person, don't I don't know. I'm just I guess I'm still figuring out how much this is bothering me and how I want to go about it. I'm kind of in the middle of it, all of it, you know, start really dating this guy, Angelina, I'm not gonna be around him. He's gonna talk to you about He's gonna be like, you know, your friend edually

she's so fat and ugly no whatever, we like. I guess that's how my sem my scene it too like and I still feel that way, like, but I'm not bringing about any of my friends. But it wasn't in the context of like I'm looking at your friends this way, and this is what I think about that, you know, you are, like I want your friend he's like my friends saying what was up? And I'm like,

oh about this person. He's like no, no, but still it's you know, I'm not defending it, but I will say in context of like, oh, look at all you know, like I don't know because like, okay, you're only gonna bring me around your hot friends. I'm not like but all my friend And I'm not just saying that, like literally they are right. So I'm just like annoyed, and it's like, who are you? Like what I'm gonna need you guys look in a mirror. Yeah,

like if anything, I am out of your leak. So, like Angelie said, I don't know this, but he said you he's balding, So yes, crazy, he literally is what is he like need something? Crazy? Yeah? My age younger by a couple of months. Well shallow, but like if you want to take it there, bro right, because he did take it there, Like I know you ain't talking and I saw a picture his friend's friend was cute, but his friend was no chanting Tatum either, So both of them need to relax. We'll see how I handle

this. Don't come for the friend. We don't know what the hell friends, I don't care what you even talking for him? Maybe under alcohol she might, but now we're out here coming for the friend's neck. We don't know what he has to say. Maybe he thinks that, but he would have said it in a better way than what carpenter basis or maybe that's his future wife, and you ever hear exactly like who knows dommy idiot? He

ruined it because he said he basically said she was fat and ugly. So okay, you thought you're gonna kick up with the friends, you don't. It was just like some dumb boy shit to say. You know what I mean, like no filter, I forgot where I'm at, ship about anybody, to be honest. Tumbleweeds rolling up there is the moment he had pee brain? But are they? Is there always tumbleweeds rolling in there? That's what That's what you're gonna come to find out. Yeah, like do you

have a brain? If you so desire, and I'm just scared to find out that he doesn't have one. It's all a brain, yes, and if he doesn't have one, you know what? On to the next. Yeah, So that's what I'm dealing with. But I'm next. On Today in the Bay we got my girl Carriina April Latina creating her own recording studio, creating this incredible safe space for creatives in the Bay Area and be on. So that is next. This is for the record with Angelina. This

is today in the Bay. What's your host engine? Now? Two day in the Bay. We have the incredible Carina with us today. I was like, go ahead, good, how are you doing good? I mean, you got so many titles. I know you're engineer artists? Are you a producer? No songwriter? I'm not gonna do yeah, yeah, sorry, You're like, that's not what I'm not gonna get into. But let's kick it off. Because you are a founder of a Studio X. You've

created this like amazing space for artists in the Bay Area and beyond. So tell me everything Studio X is about. So Studio X started off as a recording studio and just over time we've kind of pivoted into like a creative hub and an artist development center. So we don't just press three and let you go with the master. We're gonna we're gonna help and shape and mold artists.

So we have an artist development program we go over to and things from the basics like vocal performance to music business, to branding, marketing, et cetera. So these like stuff that you guys offer outside like or because someone just coming and book, like a studio as well, so they can just come in and book as a studio, but we offer like, yeah,

we offer programs and workshops like throughout the year. And how long have you guys been open for We are about to celebrate our third anniversary, open since May twenty twenty one. That's crazy, and you just okay, tell us where the studio was at first the studios in East Oakland's in Jingletown. Okay, Yeah, we're in the same building as a Green Day it used to be Wow, that's huge. And then you just opened another location we did. We opened a location in downtown LA. That's crazy. And what made

you like want to start this? I mean, I was an engineer.

I started out. I started out as an artist, and then I started recording and the first studio that I worked at shutdown during COVID, and then I worked at another studio like kind of like in the middle of COVID, and then it got to a point where I was just like I had too many ideas and I was just like, I think I've done this long enough to be able to facilitate, you know, my own my own company, Like I know I could do this, and I wasn't that was the goal,

but I wasn't necessarily trying to and I just kind of stumbled that stumbled on that space by accident. I was just looking on Craigslist, being nosy like we all do. Yeah, I got mentioned saved in my Zilla like

oh these cabinets three million dollar home. I would never jump exactly, but no. I was just scrolling Craigslist one day, which is not a place where you would think to get a like you know, we'll sketchy, but no, I ended up Yeah, and I walked through and I was just like I felt it, like I was like, this is my space, like I feel it, you know, and it's a lot of space. It's like two story. And I didn't have any investors. I was by myself. You know, I didn't have a team. It wasn't even called

Studio X yet. It was just I just needed a studio to work out of. And it's like I'm gonna figure it out. I figured it out. I took a leap, and you know, sometimes that's dangerous, but sometimes it's necessary. And it was very uncomfortable, and I didn't have any real business experience on how to run a business. So you know, these past three years, I've been learning in real time. My team has witnessing me learn these lessons in real time. But it's worked out and we're expanding

and we just opened another location, so it's been cool. Do you think being an artist first like helps you more with your vision on what you want in a studio and like what you want for other artists on one hundred percent? Because I think sometimes you know, you can get in the mindset of I'm going to open a studio and I'm just gonna make passive income. It's gonna run itself, which is ideal, Right, that's cool, but like

what else can you offer? Right? Like, there's all your competition does the same thing, and you know, you might be a studio that doesn't have the as much equipment as another studio, or like our studio, for example, doesn't have a live room, so that's like, ah, we're competing with people do have a live room. There's all these like audio components that you know puts you in different lanes and leads than everybody else. But

it's like what else can you offer? And that's kind of when the artist side of me is like, well, I wish, you know, when I went to a recording studio, I wish that we did this or I wish I had this, or I wish my studio taught me how to do this, you know, instead of without having to go to school, because I went to school to learn most of the music business y stuff, okay, but to be able to offer it and get your song mixed the master and shoot a music video, like have kind of a hub and a one

stop shop and a place to collaborate. That was kind of my goal, right, because anybody could have a recording studio, but it's like who can have like a center. It's like for artists by artists exactly. And it's like, I'm not just trying to make some money off you or like my lowest time, I just little side business, like it's actually failling for you.

Yeah, And it's like, you know, there's a lot of dialogue about the state of Bay Area music and the music business and how we do business and whatever, and a lot of times it's super negative and a lot of times nobody is doing anything about it. We're just sitting here complaining. And I got tired of that. I said, all right, I'm gonna let y'all talk. While y'all talk, We're gonna build this thing. And

you know, we're slowly we're educating artists. We're showing them like, here's how you do business after you make a song, you know, here's how you work with a producer. Here's the agreements you need to have, here's contracts, and break it down simply. It's not a big daunting thing. I think a lot of people paperwork. It's not that it doesn't have to be this big scary thing. You know. I need someone to tell them that and show them that it's not exactly or just a proper like being a

part of a show that's ran properly. Like, you know, here's what a running show is, right, what's the running show? It's literally just a list of what time and schedule that everything, just simple things to kind of just enhance our professionalism. And I think with doing that it kind of raises the bars. So then everybody who works with us is like, oh, that's the standard, right, because the standard that we're used to is is low, right, low organization skills low. Well, we're raising it,

you know what I'm saying. And we're and they go somewhere else I'm and be like, uh, they're ye. Like when you book at Studio X, you get a notification, you get an email, you get a text, you're part of a tech like you know, we just we've developed this smooth process just to make it more professional and just feel feel real and like a business. We're running a business, but it's also still a place that people could come and feel free and create and it's a safe space.

I love that you're just like, let's just do this because like you said about the narrative of like being our music being in some kind of place and whoop to woop, Like I've had conversations with friends too, cause we're like, it's not really like that, like when people keep saying like it's hello, artists working with each other like the whole you know, Oh we're not. We're not here for each other. It just like it's literally just you

guys talking. So I like how you're just like, well, I'm gonna just be so in the community to the point where it's not even a conversation, Like why are we debating this, Like clearly we're here and we're doing it because it's not accurate, And I think that we get so fixated on maybe like the top three big outlets that we don't it blinds us to what's actually really going on, Like have you been outside of the lanes that you're

talking about a lot of people know they haven't. So it's like once you start kind of really getting outside and in the community and going to different showcases and seeing different types of artists, like we're really dope and a lot of people do have our stuff together, you know, and so it's just kind

of merging communities. I think too, I have you know, when I first started, I worked at a studio car tuned off Hagenberger, and I had a lot of like more clients that made street music, right, Like my clients weren't really in the streets, right, And then a lot of clients that I have at Studio X are a little bit more artsy and young and like, you know, cool, like Diby. You know. So we've been doing is like we merged. I merged the people that I've known

forever plus these new clients, and like we're merging those worlds. So it's not we're not that different. We all want to make news, really good music said. The foundation is the same, Like even I mean just even look at rap music, like people like to be like, oh, it's conscious rap, where it's gangst rappers backpack. It's like exactly what's the foundation is all the same, you know, So why can't we like collaborate and

work together? You know, why can't I have this alternative artist be in the same room with my artists that you know, makes like you know what, like you know, just like why we can't merge them? And they we do merge them and in our camps like we have, we have artists from all different genres, you know, and we'll have them collaborate, which

is cool because they probably wouldn't have collaborate or cross paths. And even if it's not just like, oh, let's merge our two sounds, you're rock and alternative, Like it's like, oh you nice on the drums, like I'm a rapper, but can you do this? You know? Like it could be anything. So I love that you're creating that community. And I know you also have like a bunch of events throughout studio acts. Let's talk about running back, Running Back, Yes, I hosted our sisensation. Big

Vaughan shout out to the homie because he discovered the artists. I forgot her name three leaves, Yes, is that what the songs called fire like he played for me. I was like, this is so dope. You have to say, I gonna to sign that my music director because it's fire. But absolutely, yeah, so tell us about running back. So running back

is something that we started. So when we first started it was on Twitch and a shout out and so you've been doing it, Yeah, we've been doing it like probably within our like first year, within our second year, I think we started it. And I have a lot of DJ friends, and when I was an artist, I learned the importance of relationships with DJs right like I when I was making music, it was I was like in the transition era from like flyers and like gorilla marketing to like social media.

So I had like a hybrid of experience. But I remember being in faces of DJs was like one of the most important things that you could do because they outside, like there are some masses do like your song because I played it outside and for all these people. Yeah, and more times than not, DJs do want to play your record, like you know, they do want to break local talent as some capacity. But there's like I feel like

there's a gap and it really just could be filled by communicating. That's it, so you know, I was no stranger to going outside finding what DJs are going to be where, having a USB with my DJ pack like and building these relationships over the years. So I was like, how can we how can we link artists that we work with and DJs that I know?

So we started doing this thing where it was on a Twitch and we would have a DJ come in spend for an hour, and then the second hour we would just do music reviews, like what does a DJ think about this record? Because I could say what I think about it as an artist as a but the person that's gonna play it is the most important person, right,

So we started doing these running backstreams. We did one move on back in the day We've done with all types of DJs, shell Heart, Tussy, and they were fun and people were tuned in and it was on Twitch and it was cool, and I was just like, how can we How

can we make this more interactive? And I was like, let's make it like a music review showcase and so it's kind of the same format, but now it's in person, so you know, the DJ will come spend for like an hour so they can you know, get their shine on and their craft, and then we have Round one where the artists will play their song, and then Round two where the top like five people from Round one get to perform their song, and so they'll get critiqued on different things. And

it's a cool way to build commune. It's a cool way to support your friends. It's a cool way to see what the DJ thinks about your record in a safe space that you know. Sometimes it's not ideal to give your record to a DJ in the middle of their set. They're not going to play it and give you their feedback, right, It's a horrible way to do it. It's cool to hand them a USB and say, hey, later when you get a chance, let me know what you think of your

record. But this is a place where that's all they're here to do, right, So that'll feel like you're bugging them. It's not left in their spam fold or somewhere on exactly you know, like this is this is live in person. So that's how it's my vie for both sides. It's like you get to hear live music, little club slash American idol situation and build community, right and and build these relationships with these DJs that you might have been too scary to approach. You know, you never know, So it's

now a safe space. You can go up to Big Vaughan you might not go up to in real life and be like, yeah, this is all it's constructive and if you know, if you take the feed back seriously, you can really start crafting some really dope records if you keep their feedback in mind, and you don't who you're gonna beet there. Also, the DJ's are bringing their DJ friends, their radio friends, you know, other artists

that are there. Like last when when Vaughn was there, Adrian Marcel pulled up and you know, he was playing his record and he he guest judged for us, you know, and that's somebody who has sold quite a few records, so you know, you're getting his feedback as an artist, you're getting Von's feedback as a legend in radio, you know. And then we had I had my homegirl, Et Beney. She's like a marketing whiz genius, and so she was kind of giving her marketing feedback. So you had

these three really cool perspectives to really gauge where you're at. And I think that's what we do. I love that he's like not just in radio like DJ for like and then you also have jam sessions. Yeah, that's another event outside of running back, but connected to Studio X as well. Talk about the jam sessions. So the jam session started at the studio too, and it's just like they got those got so big that we couldn't fit all those people in downstairs. So y'all were going to the studio. Yeah.

So our studio is like a lot of space, right and you're more than welcome to pull up whenever you want. But downstairs is like kind of an open floor plan and we have like couches and it's more you know, where we do our camps and writing sessions and stuff like that. Upstairs is our studio. It's a smaller studio, so it might comfortably fit like ten people absolute max. That's even pushing it eight. But yeah, so we would do our jam sessions like downstairs in the open area and we would just we

just called our musician homies. And Tyler from the studio. She's an amazing sing I think I think you interviewed her back in the day. Oh I don't know, maybe Tyler Reese Okay, but she's an amazed she's an amazing vocalist songwriter. She's also an engineer and a vocal producer. But she it was like a big network of musicians and stuff. So I said, let's, uh, let's set up like some type of jam situation. It's a

build community. And that's how it started. And we would do the like bi monthly and they got bigger and bigger and more people wanted to go, like, hey, can I go to that jam? And I was like okay. So last year we did our first one with an audience, and so we kind of make it interactive. So Tyler will host and ask people

like, you know, how are you feeling? Give us a word or you know whatever, and you know, people in the audience will give a word and then the band will just jam off that and just feel like, let's say you want to say like magical. Yeah, Tyler would just start humming something about magical and then you know, drums of kicking and the basso kicking and the and it'll just be and it's like two or three hours of

just like live improv music. We have. We have a really really good time doing those and that we just did Wet with Kept Choice last week and so that's another one of our events that we do and it has nothing to do with the running backs. So the running backs are more like DJ artist relationships. This is now musician artist community. That's so dope healing. It's like it gets real sometimes it gets churchy, and then it gets real ratchet sometimes you know. Yeah, it's all about balance, it is. And

so yeah, that's what we do. And that one is more for like our musician and vocalist community, and I'm sure like people make a bunch of connections there as well. Absolutely absolutely, like you might if you're an artist and you're looking to put together a band, like, definitely come to a jam session because you might find your next drummer there, or you might find a background singer. This I want to go. I don't want to contribute, I'll have no musical abilities, No, I just want to be there.

Yeah, we're absolutely going to invite you to the next one. Let's fire. So far, are you guys at the point where you're like going to different locations for the jam sessions? Yeah? Okay, So last summer we were doing them on a rooftop in Oakland. We just didn't want at ground floor in Oakland which is like a shared like workspace community club thing, but is really really pretty in there. And I feel like, yeah, with like so many new restaurants and stuff opening up, it's like a good

networking for you too, like let's host this. Yeah, I think a lot of I think as we grow it and you know, get our marketing together, I think a lot of like I want to do one in like a nursery or with something with really plan and you know, like I think we can just keep changing a coffee shops. Coffee shop, Yeah, just anywhere anywhere that's a vibe, right, because it's it's definitely like a vibe experience that's crazy. Yeah, you got to come to one. It's so

fun. No, I really let me know the next one. I'll definitely be there. Man. It's just like so much from the studio that you got going on with that, and then you're an artist yourself, I am, Are you still making music? I haven't made music in a really long time, so I'm not going to say I'm not making music. Like there's a hundred at least one hundred songs in my in my card yards. And I was stocking your Instagram and I saw one pust You're like came out of

retirement. I was like, words too. Yeah, I just dropped the I dropped the project last like the end of last summer. It was called Single for the Summer and that has some cool songs on it. But yeah, I think I like making music. It's just like it's so taxing sometimes too, just because I'm facilitating so many, so many other things. But I do know, just for myself, for my mental health, for my sanity, I do need to balance it a little better and make records because

I know I still have more things to say. But I think just pivoting too, like I'm like a business lady now, Like I don't know what to say in the songs because I'm like, this ain't even accurate. I'm not even living like that right now, Like I don't it's gonnas. This

is not responsible of me for to say. Like, so it's kind of difficult to find that balance and that duality because it's like I've grown so much New Years, it's all Karina with the X that was in Karina, and I just changed my name too, and then I got all business sees. So I don't know, I don't know, but I do still make music to answer your question, and I do a lot of like songwriting, gigs and stuff. I just wrote a song, wrote a couple of songs for

this artist named Dred Dominique based in San Diego. So yeah, we're still writing. And you were nominated for Grammy. Yeah some light talk about that. Oh yeah, I'm talking about My So that happened too long. I mixed the project for Apprentice Palell and Sean William and it was a spoken word album, so it's pretty cool, and they got nominated and it's a new it's a new category, so I think it was second year of the category. And yeah, we got nominated. And I was like, they told

me that too. They were like when I mixed it, they're like, yeah, we're gonna try to get nominated, and I was like, I

didn't think they couldn't. But I was just like, that's a it just sounds like, yeah, can I just mix it first, like we don't right, you know, no pressure, trying to get some grammar and they were like no, we're simitting instagramma and I'm like okay, like all right, and it ended up getting nominated and I was like, yo, okay, what I'm feeling like like just being part being a part of that. It was crazy because like the Grammys, the Grammys seems like this big mystical

organization and they're really not like a huge mystery. Like you can be a part of the academy. It's not that hard if you're a music professional. And they want more people to be a part of it, any more people. Yeah, they need more people. And I think I think this coming year is going to be a really good year just for how they're expanding. And uh, I started. I started working with the Grammys when I was

in college. You ever heard of Grammy You. So Grammy You is a college extension of the Grammys, right, So it's their program that they they do for college kids and you pay like a really small fee, it's like one hundred bucks, I don't remember, and you're a part of Grammy You for your entire entire college career and then two years or something after you graduate. So with that, any college, not any college, but any college that they're in, they'll send a rep. Usually if you're in like a

music class. So I was in I was taking a music I was having doing a music degree, So they had a Grammy rep Grammy U rep come in and that's how I learned about it and I signed up instantly. Because you got I would invited to all of the events that they were throwing. This was pre COVID, so they had a lot of stuff going on, so you get to do all that for free, and then they would let you do sound checks. You get to go to certain people's sound checks.

So I went to Janelle Montet sound check, I went to how You Saying the Khalid I went to his sound check. They did a songwriting thing. Melissa Edthridge. I played a song for her, like for some songwriting. She was like, I got goosebumps. I said, I know that's right. Yeah, I just got crazy. And then they'll give you if you're

really saucy, they offer a mentorship and you apply to a mentorship. So I got paired up with the guy who remember Foster and the Pizzy was really say Sacy, but he worked on the The Foster and the People Out, So he had like this, I don't remember if it's diamond or platinum, but it was one of them platus like Crazy and Hicks Pumped Up Kicks. Yeah, he produced on that album. So he had his accolades, and they paired me up with him on some like production stuff and I'm like,

I am not a producer, like I don't like making beats. I don't like producing. I don't. I was so against it. I was like my engineer like I don't, or I'm I'm an artist, like I don't make the beats. He insisted, right, and uh. He had me like on an old school lendrum from the eighties and it was like a drum machine thing, and I ended up producing a really dope song that I actually that's the one I played for Melissa Ethers. She's like, oh, they give me a use once. So I was just like yo, full stuck

a moment. But I say all that to say, like he's my mentor. Is the reason like I've had sync placements and stuff like Grownish and et cetera, et cetera, because I worked with him and he showed me kind of how to do it and who to talk to. So anyways, I say all that to say the Recording Academy is like a lot more accessible than people think, and they offer a lot of resources for professionals. I'm glad you tried producing, though I know you're like I hate it because you're trying

everything, might as well try it. Yeah, no, not for me. Have you ever tried to make it be before? No, it is not. I feel like I wouldn't be able to do it like I do, like I'll like set up like little Jingles on my podcast, but like it'll be like a two second one. I was like that took forever, ages ages and then I don't know music theory, Like I took music theory in school, but I had like a really mean teacher, and I just I was into it. I was I've passed by the grace. I don't

know, Yeah, I passed, though. I think my teacher actually got fired, like he got like escorted by the police, like mid mid by the police, yeah, like mid semesters. Then they switched. It was too much. So all that to say, I don't know music theory, so when I even the teacher just messed it up for you because obvious, Yeah, he screwed it up for me big time because he just like turned me off. I was just like I don't like this class, like let

me get to my pro tools class. And he got arrests. It wasn't just you like, yeah, problems yeah, I think he got fired and then they automatically like make somebody walk you out because like the school sheriffs or whatever like walked in up. Oh okay, okay, I don't know none of my business. I do want to know what he did, right. He used to smell like he'll do real bad, So I don't know the google him after this. Yeah, see where he's at now. He was

so mean. But anyways, I don't like making beasts because I feel like I can't play what I hear and it takes too long for me to figure it out. I don't have patience. I'm just like, this isn't for me. And then by the time I finished making a beat, I was like I would never wrap on this trash. I wish somebody would send this to me. So I just let you make it better. That's your job. Yeah, I can get on it. I don't want to do it. I leave it to the big dogs. These both these people group people

here next to me, both produced so they can have that. So how did you get into engineering? Like what made you like really fall in love with that? So I was an artist first and then I lived with my auntie and I just moved in with her, and she was like, I was graduated from high school, and she said, you could live here for free, but you need to go to school. And I was like school and nobody. I didn't really like grow up with thinking I was ever gonna

go to college or anything. Like. I already knew what I wanted to do from a really young age. I was like, I'm gonna be a rap star, like and that's it. I was good at it, and so I didn't think there was a point for me to go to school. But she was like, you need to go do something, and I was like, all right, So I went to community college. Then I found out you get financial aid. I said, well sign now, you know,

stay all four years. It's how much a lot. I not only used mine once, and I like, for some reason, couldn't use it again. I was like, damn, when you're young and never touched a thousand dollars before that financial you feel like you feel like a billionaire. I was like, waste some life and then you could get a little two books and then like the rest was on me and get the used books and get the e books and then get the you did the ball favorite. Actually I

was a Ta and my Ta let me use like half her books. She was like, don't buy that, Like he's mine. You had to joke, you feel my five kent to who knows what shoes? Shoes? I was. I was just I was blowing it, but like it was it was good to just be able to a little money. No, I had like every victorious secret, perfree passion. I was doing something. Yes, every type of blossom. That's all funny. Made you go to school?

Oh yeah, go to school? Uh. And then I took General ed and I was like I just didn't know what I wanted to do, Like I didn't have a profession other than what I was already doing. And then they had a music program that it was called Music Industry Studies. Yeah, music Industry Studies and it was at Diablo Valley College DVC, and uh, I just enrolled and I was like I could do this, and you know, so I would love to learn pro tools to be able to like communicate

with my engineers that I was working with. So I'm like this probably be like useful or something. Definitely flunked my first year of pro Tools percent big ad. I never went to class, like I was just like but then I was like, Okay, Craney, you gotta get serious because somebody told me if you fail, you got to pay the financial aid back. I think that was a lie. That's a lie. Well somebody said that scared

me straight. I said, oh, I, you probably can't get it again, regardless, regardless, I was about to mess up that check for me. So I said no, no, no, no, no, all right, we're gonna take it seriously time. So then I ended up taking it again and I got serious and I actually really liked it. And then Jeff that owned Tom Studios, the first studio that I used to record at, he was like, I mean you want to like make some extra money and start taking on clients. And I was like, hm hmm maybe,

and so I just wanted yeah. I was like, I mean I should probably get like another start gig or something, right. I think I was working at Home Goods at the time. I was so yeah, I started taking I think one of my first clients was like his stars, like yeah, like and I started just taking on and I was so slow. I worked with fantastic Agrito, like the album that he got a Grammy on.

I did like a little more sol of recording on that album. So the project I didn't do enough to qualify, but I was like yeah, so, but I was really slow and just young. But I liked it though, like I felt like I can do this. And then I was recording myself and that made me better because I was just like, I know how I want to be recorded. And then I remember there's a guy named Ku Carell and he's like a vocal producer for like Rihanna and Justin Bieber,

like all the big people. I think he just worked on Beyonce's album that

she just did. He's worked with all the stars, right, and he was doing I don't remember if this was a demonstration with the recording Academy or with my school, but whatever it was, he was doing a demonstration at the old school what's the school in Emeryville that shut down expressions expressions and he was doing like a demo, recording demo, and I've never seen anybody work so fast, and I was like, oh, I want to work like that, and I was like okay, Like and he just does a bunch

of shortcuts and like when he comps vocals, Like comping vocals is when you just do several takes of you know, a phrase or something and you put it together like and make like you know, some people call the Frankensteining, Like you're just taking a bunch of pieces and putting it together. And uh, I was just like I love I love this, Like I just felt something. I was like, I want to do that, Like recording is cool, but I want to do that. And he was vocal producing at

the same time. So hit it again, do it like this? No, no, get this rand. You know he wasn't a great singer, but well no, I think he can't sing actually, but like he wasn't like out of this, out of the but he was still getting his point of cross yeah, to where the artists understood and you know, made their sound better. So I started incorporating that in my sessions and when I will work with singers especially, I was like, like I cannot sing for real,

like like she is not blessed with that. He knew, he knew if I could sing, it would be so I can though I have a good ear. So like I was kind of getting that reputation. And I started kind of just building a reputation and building my clientele and you know, getting when you're an engineer. You have to compete, you know, with people who have been going to their engineer for the last five ten years,

and so you just have to offer incentives and different experiences. So I was going out my way to just make sure that these people I was working with were getting like super speed and like I might make a free promo video for them or just like finding different ways to keep them around. And I did,

and I just loved it. And then it got to the point where engineering my regular jobs, like my day jobs, I think it worked out, like a printing company or something like that, was getting in the way of my clients, and I was making more engineering than I was at that twelve fifteen dollars an hour, so I was like, I'm out this whole

time. Yeah, and so yeah, so that's kind of how I pivoted, And then I was able to fund my music with engineering, and then I was able to meet more people as an engineer than I was as an artist, because when you're an artist, it's all about me, right, everything's me, me, me, me me. When you're an engineer, it's like people want to talk to you because you do something for me.

Yeah, yeah, and it's like oh and then like that's how I met Vaughn initially, Like he hit me asking about he wanted to put like a song together, like a like a song with female rappers, and he was like he didn't know I made music. He was like, well, what can who can I put on this? And you know, I was giving him ideas and stuff, and then I just shot my shot on the phone. I said, Hey, while you're here, can I send you a song that I'm working on. He's like, oh, you make music?

And I was like yeah, He's like yeah, send it. Literally like within the hour, he played it on the radio like during primetime like traffic time, and then it was on for a couple months, like on the radio like no, and I'm like, no, but it That's how you know, those relationships kind of it's got to happen organically first, but then you can't be afraid to like put yourself out there too. Yeah, once

it's there, and it helps when you do other things. Like I tell artists, like, you know, if you only make music, sometimes that's tough to get to where you need to go. Because for somebody who like a DJ or a label rep or whatever, like you gotta think hundreds of people are getting at them every year, you know, sometimes every week or

month. What can you do for them to even make them like drop their shoulders and really have a conversation with you and really like level And a lot of times it's you being able to be multifaceted, faceted and offer something else. So I tell people go pick up a camera, go learn how to engineer, or go everything, do something, Just figure out something else to

do. That way, you'll never know who you meet like that, right, and you never know what you're like actually like in love with right, Like you know, you were like, I'm all about my music, and I was like, wait, I love engineering. I never thought I was ever going to be an engineer. It sounded like nerd stuff to me, Like I don't want to do I'm an entrepreneur. I never thought I was going to open a student That wasn't part of the plan. Yeah it wasn't.

But you know, you never know, just doing everything. So many people understand though, like this studio is not just yeah exactly one, I'm just making money off you guys, or you know it's dope. You got all these events going on and you're creating the space for artists, but like you have the resume, like you went to school, you worked with the academy, you were an artist yourself. So I just want people to understand when you go to the studio, like you're working with the best listen,

they are getting they are getting experienced. He does this, Yeah, they're getting love. And the engineers that we have at the studio, like these are my people. Like I'm training them, you know what I'm saying, And I'm trying to put them in positions and situations so similar things could happen to them as well. So when you come to the studio, even if you don't work with me, you're gonna work with somebody else who got it, you know what I'm saying. Like everybody is super talented and in their

own lane and got something special. So from the whole staff, pole staff to the equipment fire, so what it's about everything Studio X. And then you open the location in La too, So yeah, from people in the bank, could they use that one too, Like yeah, we actually I don't know when this is gonna air, but we got a mean special going on right now. Bey to LA. If you're from the Bay and you want to go work in LA fifty percent off only because we want to encourage

people to get outside their comfort zones and go make that LA trip. La trips are very important, I will say, that's the different type of work and a different type of network and market. So fifty percent off. They only paying half of what they pay us up here if they go to LA. But yeah, they can book in LA. And Rossie's down there running the LA location, killing it, doing great. Yeah, and it's woman owned like crazy in Oakland. Like that's so far, You're amazing. Let's

talk about this lab with FAB that you got coming up? Got another event, So what's going on the lab with Fab. One of my longest clients I've had is Missed the Fab. We've been working together seven years maybe something like that, and our work we have developed this insane workflow that, like you, I have to experience to understand what I'm saying because nobody believes it.

And then when they come in, they're like, I've never seen anything like that, Like the amount of people that I think everybody that comes into one of our sessions for the first time, like they'll be quiet, they're just quiet, they're watching, and then during a break they're like, I have never seen anything like that in my life. Like we work speed like quick like and I could keep up with each other. Yeah, he could keep up with me. Because when we first started working together, I was

I was subbing in for his regular engineer and uh jeff him. He was like, oh, can you do a session with Fab? And I was like, this was I don't know, I don't remember. I was probably like twenty two, twenty three, maybe like I was young, like I was, I was still fresh, I was still knew. I don't even know if I had gone to that Ku Correlle thing yet, but maybe I don't know. I was like it was before New Oakland, after No Heavens.

No, I'm not that. I'm not that No Shade Fab No, no, No, this was probably this was probably After a Son of a Pimp too. I think this was a little bit after that, yeah, because I didn't have anything to do with that album. I wasn't recording him yet. Yeah, so this is after that and we just started working together and he was really He's fast and his attention span is like, you know, he has to do something, he has to keep going, And I was like, you're not about to outwork me so that Yeah, it made

me keep up. And then I got to a point where what's up, I'm faster, you know, and then you all like and it was like, a we just created this chemistry like to wear down. I don't have to I don't he doesn't have to say a word, and I know what he's thinking, just because we've worked together for so long so often, like

we work weekly. So basically people can learn that, right, And and fab is his own like mind and brain and yes, like, but as an artist and an engineer, you can still create that kind of synergy in that that chemistry with your artists. You just have to have the right tools and you have to like have change your mindset a little bit into how can

I make this faster. I used to work on a ranch when I was a kid, my grandpa or nancehetto and I'm like my uncle was too, And I remember like when I would go work there in the summer, a lot of the task I had to do are mad, tedious, dude like, and I was like, how can I figure out like a faster way to do this but still get like the same result, right, And so I kind of developed that mindset, so I applied that to engineering, right,

how can I do what I need to do? But like quicker to keep up with him, Like there are certain things while he's recording or figuring out a line, I could be editing or cleaning up my workspace and start mixing and suffcapacity. So it's kind of just we're doing that. So that's what we're doing. He's going over kind of his songwriting techniques and how he writes super fast, and I'm going over engineering techniques and how I track vocals

really fast. Knowing it's like a class. Yeah, it's good to be a session, but it's like a interactive Yeah, it's gonna be an interactive workshop session. So that's what Lab with Fab is. Bro that's so tight. So when is this this is going down? So that's on the thirteenth, very limited like under ten. I'm talking like under ten people, just because we want everybody to have like a fairly hands on experience and be able to answer everybody's questions and stuff. So I don't know when we're gonna do

it again. But if you're an engineer or an artist than want to learn how to track faster, definitely definitely make that make that move well. I think you're amazing. Love key a genius. I love what you're doing for the community. Studio X fire. I need to go to a jam session. So yeah, you'd invite me to that, and you need to send me a wall. Oh absolutely, I'll send that right now. Oh yeah, you don't know creedom. I get your song played on the radio station.

Okay, Hey, you're gonna help you with everything. Whatever you want to learn, you can go to Studio X and learn it. Yeah. And if we can't teach you, we know somebody who can there you go, so how could they follow you? Guys, get more in touch. So Studio X Recording. If you want to book time with us, our socials are all Studio X five one zero on Instagram. Studio X two one

three is our Los Angeles location. My personal instagram is Karina Music Karina with an x X a r in a music and yeah, book some time, come work with us, come to a jam, follow us on all our socials, keep up with our events and programs, and we're gonna take it up. We're gonna take it up one up a not excuse me this summer so it's spring still, but we're resting right now because it's about to get.

It's about to get. I mean, yeah exactly, I have hell events, but I have to ask what's next, like big Picture events all both oh events. We have our next running back with DJ Chloe Money on the seventeenth at Dahlia, so that'll be super dope. Our next GAM is probably going to be in May, and then another one in June, and our artist development program is gonna kick off in June. And big Picture, Yeah, where do you see Studio X in like five years or where do

you want it to like really be? You know, I want one more location and a very big city not on this coast, a Grammy downstairs and a and a Grammy case. You know what I'm saying. I want that might happen before five years, and just a bigger location that we're able to really build out from, you know, the ground up. You know this location was it fitting the budget and it could make sense, you know where I was. But I think in five years we're definitely going to be like

a space that's like our space, like that we really built out. Well, I can't wait to see you take over Karina. Everyone, Studio Eggs pull up. Thanks so much for coming by thank you, appreciate you, Angelina. Just Ago wacke it, just Ago wack it, just Ago wack it, just Ago wack it. On the fracking be caught off wa