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Yaser for the record with Angelina, what's up. I'm Angelina, I'm Chris, I'm angel Leek, I'm a b period and fus Chris is behind the camera. In this week's episode. And for the Culture, we're talking about some heartbreak that happened this past Sunday, but also Ushers halftime Show and Let's Talk TV, a brand new show is coming to Netflix. And in Bitch, I give an update on Carpenter Bay and we talk about canceling dates. By all means, let's get to it. This is for the culture,

for the culture, for the culture. This is where we pick a headline and ask if they, she or he did it for the culture. I'm gonna just get this part out the way. Though I was doing so good and I wanted to talk about the Niners leading up because you know, I don't want to jinx it when Super Bowl is approaching. We did not talk about it in any of the episodes. I'll just say, I don't know,

it's still it's it's it's a stinger, so sad literally forever. It was hands down, not hands down, but it definitely was one of the worst loss losses in forty nine ER's history. And I know a lot of people are like blaming it on the no holding call, and like I think when you lose like that on a big stage, it's like easy. Everyone wants to point a finger, you want to blame the coach, you want to blame certain players. But like, all in all, it was a

team loss. There was a lot of missed opportunities. We should have had like seventeen points going into halftime. Right if you have turnovers and don't refuse to score on turnovers, like you're just already gonna battle and appeal. I don't know what that's saying is have an upheel battle. So yeah, that was a heartbreaker. Rock Party though he did a solid job. But yeah, I mean, I'll be classy and give it to Patrick Mahomes. He

really is the goat. It's fucking hard to beat them his fucking seth rogen laugh sound and ass come with the frog of the fuckers. No, he's like literally the go He probably will pass on Bretty's record and it's really hard to be him. And like I said, brock Party was solid, but like he's just not in the same universe as my Homes And like obviously one if we won maybe that wouldn't have been a conversation. Maybe it would have, but got to give credit words due and it was just a team loss

all around. And I don't want to sound like a Cowboys fan and say that we'll be back next year, but like, we'll be back next year. Maybe we probably will. I think at one point I was feeling like I'd rather just be trash, like I'm so tired of like making it every year and like not winning. But like that's a lie. I want to be trashed like some of your guys' teams. So yeah, anyways, Well, isn't the super Bowl coming here next year? So like you know,

yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah, wow that someone told me. I don't know. My class told me that time it gets there will be. I thought, if you were going to super Bowl, you couldn't have it at your your home. Well we don't know, Oh, I guess we don't know. Well the script the scripts are coming then, will not be? It is coming to Clara yeah right, leave stadium. Yeah, they already going to host it next year. I think it's twenty twenty six. So like if the Niners go, that would be dope because it

could be their home, but I guess they won't get the cut. They won't go, they won't go. So didn't somebody just say that if if a place is hosting it, the team can't play, well, they can't not like like yeah the rule. Maybe they have like like a tentative place, but then like, oh, if the Niners go, then we got to move somewhere else. I feel like that's not a thing at all. Like what, you go undefeated and you can't play the super Bowl because it's

in your hometown. Let me let me google this real quick. Hold on, hold on, please please hold twenty four Only two teams have played the super Bowl in their stadium, so you can, okay, okay, they just want to go where the money, where the money flows, and like Levy Stadium is it's huge, like and it's been yeah the Rams, that's so fine. Oh wait, we had it a couple of years ago. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like before it was actually a cold Play but it was yeh, who is she? I don't know her?

Just kidding love cold Play down, but Beyonce Bruno clearly stole the show. And who stole the show from me? Yeah? The best part of Sunday Night was usher mother fucking Raymond. His first song, caught Up was not I did. It wasn't my top three. I didn't even think it was like. Hearing it, I was like, I know it was good, but I was coming in. I didn't take that. I like your guys' idea of what the songs. That what he was going to open up

with, yeah, directed like mine was open with Daddy's Home. Oh yeah, yeah, I just want to get your attention. Stop Pyro Pyro. That's a good opener too. I thought he was going to open up too bad girl one. Yeah, that's a good but also caught Up was good though I did not see that coming at all see it coming. Also, I'm not gonna I don't not like caught Up. But I think when it was out, like I remember it being like on one to six a Park, and I I wasn't in love with it. Really, it's like probably

my favorite song on the Confessions album. I'm not gonna lie, Okay, I think I don't know which one it was. Let It Burn on that album that been my favorite, let It Burn. But he didn't even do Daddy's Home at All's Home. And but I'm glad he went through like he did most of his R and B ship Like it was very R and B. It was very hip hop, you know. I will say I wish it was like five seconds of a song versus like two three yeah songs,

so it's like how do you get through album? But it did feel a little a little quick, like right when I'm like ready to sing, it's like to the next one and slow. It was just seven o'clock on the dot and then it switched. I was I wasn't ready for that. I needed a little bit more. I wanted to hear Lovers and Friends. I was so bummed about Lovers and Friends, especially because they were all up there, up there. They could have totally took that opportunity, but I guess

can't do them all. Superstar though, even though he just did the intro, I thought that, I thought of you is a win for you guys. I did like the roller blade was dope. The how they were all in sync. He killed one of the dancers. I don't know if you guys caught in the very beginning, he like bent backwards and he used his like head to like roller blade through the stage. Yes, the skates, the whole production was insane, like the Vegas theme. They nailed it.

Yeah, it was really good. A lot going on. Al piano was fire. Yeah, like the piano maybe a good transition to go into the bath. No Alicia the first note, Like I would have been okay if they cut that whole part out. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it was a little surprised that she was going to be there, But that's cool. You know she the very first which is crazy because they went and edited it off YouTube. Did they edited it out because she cracked like her voice

at that ship. Yeah, and like auto like side note just about the world. Like, that's so crazy. I can see years from now people like arguing, people arguing whether or not it was like a good or bad performance, Like there's any people who remember her cracking and be like, okay, let's pull it up on YouTube. No. Wow, I never even thought about it like that. That's how you change the narrative. That's how you change the narrative. The power. That's crazy. Her dress was fire

though, Yeah, she shouldn't said to that. The chemistry. I love that. Don't leave your girl around me? True playing for that? He did. You don't have to call also, I mean, he did all the hits. It was amazing, and I feel like it did exactly what halftime show was supposed to do, Like you're supposed to be, like, wow, this person has catalog and like, unfortunately Usher has been lately severely underrated, Like he is one of the biggest starts. He gave us one

of the best R and B albums. But like the fact that it was even like a conversation if he should do halftime is insane, and I think he proved that point. Like bitch, I got hits on hits, I'm a performer. Yeahs her noise, she did that. I love that she killed it. She did she I mean she her starting too is just like on YouTube, right, she was just like saying something and Ellen saw her and she was on all these like good morning shows. I love. I

love that storyline. Like now you're at the fucking super Bowl and you're like, not even thirty, let's go. And she's sang when she was little too, like a throwback of like being at the super Bowl singing oh wow, that's right. Definitely full circle for her. Oh my god, could you imagine could you imagine? No she was she was fired, and I loved, like, yeah, when Ludacris came out, I just got like

so like the hip hop. Me got really happy. And the part that I thought was really dope when Luda had came out and he was doing his yeah verse, they played the Freaking League beat and now she was fired, and I remember like coming back to work and me and my coworkers were specifically talking about that part. It just sounded really dope. So now stuff has been coming out. How like Little John was like the main one to like produce the whole show. But he also I didn't know this. He mentioned

that ushers Yeah was originally recorded to the Freak League beat. Oh wow. Interesting. I didn't know that. And then I guess Peop Papa wouldn't put it out, didn't want to give it to him, so well, John didn't want to take it, and he just like flipped it. So essentially

the beat is essentially the Freak League beat. He just like switched some parts out and he's like, I'm glad we did it because like, yeah, it wouldn't have been yeah right, yeah, but is one of the best beats ever, Like to this day, people we have like there's like three samples already of it, like people continue to wrap over it's one of the best beats ever. But oh no, my mind was blown and like that

made that moment even cooler. Like I thought that was dope that he was just wrapping over it, like it just seemed to hip hop as fuck. And then to know that, like, oh this actually could have been Yeah, like no, wonder why he's like riding the beat so so too. Yeah, so that ship was fire. Where are we ranking this as far as like top halftime performances? Happy, I feel like I want to do top five, really, top ten for sure. I'm just trying to think

of other ones. I don't know. Lady got Katie Ferry, Beyonce, well, like number one for me, Michael Michael, yeah, Michael's Yeah. It's just like he's like sitting there for like two minutes straight and everyone's just going shit crazy and he like doesn't even sing it out like for like two whole minutes. Everyone's just like screaming, losing their fucking Yeah. Yeah, it's known to be like one of the best ones for sure. Okay, Yeah, it's like MJ, so number one, you forget to count

it. It's like Michael Jackson, Prince and then we're gonna rank the rest, and at number three is Beyonce and Bruno. For me, I gotta look at the rest of them too. You're right, it's a toughye, But is sure over Rihanna's last year, for sure, I say easy. Yeah, Yeah, It's a hard to judge Rihanna because she end up being pregnant. You know that scratch a lot of stuff, But for sure, I think now it's safe to say, like, yeah, it wasn't it

wasn't the greatest, It wasn't terrible. It was that was Paris Globals, which is the choreographer who did it. It was her super Bowl. It wasn't h Yeah, it was Rihanna, of course, but like she that was that was all her planning. I mean, love her songs, but yeah, and I think and hers did do what exactly the super Bowl needs to do. Like it was at the end of the day, You're like, damn, we only got catalog. But it was nothing like crazy pregnanty.

Yeah, the coolest part was her like doing her makeup, like Okay, your rich bitch, you got makeup, you got anywhere and Nama shout out to usher. He's a man, okay, one of the goats, minus the camera man being a little wonky in the beginning. And Alice Keys, I don't think she get in her voice back. But other than that, the man got hits on hits. It was amazing him harmonizing all his records, taking his shirt off, doing his little dance the guest stars.

I thought it was amazing and I need to find a way to create an OnlyFans or sell some feet picks so I get tickets to his upcoming tour. He is coming to Oakland. Let's talk TV everyone. After the show is over, After this podcast is over, take your little asses to Netflix, take your little fingers and type in the Vince Staples Show. It is out now. It dropped at midnight on Thursday, February fifteenth, Right is that Thursday yesterday? Yes? So Vince Staple. Yeah, he got his own

Netflix show. If you don't know who Vince Stables is, He's one of my favorite rappers out aside from those boys at Griselda. I really don't think anyone could out rap Vin Staples like I love Kendrick. I think Vin Staples could out rap Kendrake like I know that's my hot take. When it comes bar for Barr, not hits wise, but obviously Kendrick's career. Rap career is better, discography is better. But when it comes bar for Bar, I think Vince Staples could wrap a lot of these new guys on the scene.

However, aside from my love for him as a rapper, he's always going viral for his interviews. Everyone swears up and down that he's the funniest guy ever. We need to put him on TV, and now here he is on TV. Okay, you're at your prayers haven't answered. I'm not exactly sure what it's about. I saw the trailer. It does seem pretty scrissid earlier like it seemed like a little dick. I don't know if it's necessarily Vince Staples story, like on Vince Stables a rapper, this is how

I become a rapper. But maybe I don't know. I gotta watch it. It does seem like he is playing a regular version of himself, and like a lot of it's based on maybe actual events he's gone through, growing up in LA and being in a gang, et cetera. Is it is it a comedy? Yeah, it's definitely a comedy. Yeah, it's a comedy show. It's no, no, no, no, it's definitely not a docu series. It's like he's just not playing himself. But I'm sure he's playing from like stuff he knows from his life. I see, you

know what I mean? Like next week we'll be able to come with a real review and what it's about and how funny it was and if it's that good or not. But please go watch the Vince Staples show. This is what I'm looking up right now, like what it's supposed to be about. This is what the La Times is saying online. There we go. Yeah, I see the description says Vince Staples plays a regular guy version of himself. Infix and Netflix is a stable show, gap tooth Wrapper and Active Stables

has a series. Why do they describe it that way? Gas, I don't have a damn La Times. What is it? I'm offended. I looked at I forgot him. Okay, describes it limited comedic series London. Look, Okay, that's crazy. Vin Stables navigates life as a kind of famous, kind of rich, kind of criminal, but not really rapper. But I didn't even realize. Now, Okay, We just got a couple of gap to write that the La Times that was not his, that was on a podcast. Not y'all love it at eighties gap. Maybe your gap

is beautiful. You go see it on our Instagram. Had to underscore emtr pod go support the Vincample show it Neflix. I said, bitch, if you wanted to go to Taylor's, just tell her brother you want to go to Taylor You said that. Oh hell yeah, man, I laid it out right, I said, I said, I said, I said, bitch, all right, bitch. So do you guys remember last week? I told you it's been a week and I have not heard from We'll go ahead, carp this, Carpenter, it's been a week, you said,

you guys remember last week? I was like, we went on too amazing dates. And then I was like, okay, we had talked on that like that Saturday, and then we recorded the podcast on Thursday, and I was like, yeah, I have not heard from at all, Like he hasn't text me nothing. Yeah, produce Chris even be like, no, it's just the middle of the week. We're like, no, it's Thursday, Sunday again, like it's gonna be a full seven days, so he

did text me. Oh okay, okay, okay, so text me on Saturday, I had a Warrior's game shouts and Angelique she came out to support. Okay, I have to pull the screenshot out. So he texted you six days after let me let me tell you, yes, it was six days. Let me pull the text out first. Okay, you guys, this is for real, so terrible. Okay, I'm pulling out a thing,

you guys. Also, I don't know if anyone else does this, but sometimes with like if I'm like expecting a text message or I have like anxiety about it, I'll like delete the text thread and that means it didn't happen. No, that's just so when I deleted it, like if he never would to hit me up, like that never happened because I deleted the text thread. If that orcs for you, girl, that works for you.

If I send a risky text, okay, I've been doing pretty good not doing it anymore, even though I just did it this past week. No. I used to be though, yeah, please say, do you mean you are in an argument? Right? And I send you a risky text and I'm like anticipating your text message, but I'm tired of waiting for

it. I'll delete the text thread and that means it didn't happen, like like you know if people throw their phone because I don't want to look at it anymore doing that, like, yeah, you don't want to print it, email nothing, No, that's my option, no receipts, do not do it. No, but okay, I used to be really bad. Side story. One time I was talking to this guy. We did not have a good altercation, and I sent a very risky text. We didn't have altercation, but like we the time we met up, it was just

embarrassing. It was not good. I sent a very risky text. This this is my crazy days. I'm not like this anymore. I sent a risky text. I get to work. I don't want to see anymore. Like if you respond like, I'm like, I have anxiety. So I delete the text thread. It never happened. This is when I worked at the front desk and I heard and I'm waiting, Oh you guys right when I deleted the message, my phone vibrated, so he literally texted me as

I was deleting the text thread, so you didn't see the message. No, So I go back to the front desk, which I'm like trying to find ways you could like recover, which I called team to God, I called and I was like, is there any way I could retrieve these?

No? I was down bad. I swear I'm not like that anymore five years ago, ma'am your plan or sometimes you can look at like call logs, they could know you're for evidence and stuff like I think it's because I message, because technically you could actually if it's like green text messages, so

android winters. You guys are actually winning. If you were a crazy bitch in my situation and you had an Android, you would have been able to retrieve that message maybe, but because it was I message, they weren't able

to do it. So I had to send a second risky text and make up a lie of why I didn't just get that, because I had to say in the ocean and I don't know what I told him, but it was something so embarrassing along the lines of, hey, I didn't get your last message, but oh God, just replaying this in my head, like telling the story I was insane. I was actually insane, but I think I made up a lie. Was like man for whatever reason I didn't get

her text that you just sent me. But whatever, I just want to apologize about whatever whatever, like I went back to the topic at hand, So embarrassing would the message? No but his He did respond to me and it was very respectable, like okay message. But then we eventually followed each other off socials. But that were good me did him follow each other? We're great Off the record. I used to be insane. I can't believe I literally called him T Mobile. That's crazy who used to work to my

desk with me. She was probably just looking at me like this bitch is so crazy, has seen me at my worst because we miss you no so much. Emma really saw me down bad. She saw me calling up T Mobile, deleting text threads, so many hungover days coming into work. She saw me the day after. If you're a day one for the record fan this story the day I fortunately got arrested. You no longer delete the dread. Yeah, well I did do it this past Saturday, because oh no,

I was just writing AV. I was like, if he is ghost to me, like, I don't want to like be dumb and text him. You get what I say? So I already didn't save his number, and I know, like if I ever was in a mode to self sabotage and like text this man embarrassingly, I was like, that's not gonna happen. So that's why I deleted the text. I was like, you know what, if he goes to me, let me just go ahead and delete his number and like let him do that, because yeah, I'm like,

we're coming up on almost day seven. And then Angelina would call Apple to see if she could recover the numbers. Yeah, I know, see that. That's not like anymore. I don't do anywhere. I don't call customer service anywhere to get number. But that's what was going in my head. Okay, okay, So Saturday, I'm working Seed OFS and I get a little text message. Oh I deleted that part, damn it. So what do you have the screenshot? But it was something along with the lions.

It was something along the lines. Because I ran out to Angelique, he said something like oh what was it? Because he worded it that he was like hey, smiley face. And then he sent a second message and he was like did it. Almost thought I wasn't going to find your number. Four A second was like a sweaty emoji. He said, yes, he did say that. I thought I was He said, I thought I wasn't going to find your number again, so he lost it or he's also right

confused, and I was like, okay, let's just scroll down. But then I'm like, yeah, so many bitches that you're like, yeah, dive in. So I think I responded like, oh, like you deleted my number already or something like SEMIKEI with someone like what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, he said, sends me a picture of his phone, and he said, my old phone stopped working, so I had I had to buy a new one. So he had a little type of there, and

all my recent numbers didn't get saved on my iCloud. I paid someone to try and fix the phone, and they were able to fix it today. Ha ha. Do you believe him? I didn't believe him. Oh you didn't believe him? No, because, first of all, if it was me, I'm not going twenty four hours without a working phone, Like, how are you going to go a whole week without a phone? Well, no, he didn't have a phone. Yeah, you couldn't get the numbers, that's what. Yeah, So what I think I think he got a

new phone right away because he does need it for work. And I think he said, but eventually I end up paying someone to fix his old phone so I could get my old numbers or he was like, I'm so in love with that bitch, I'm actually going to pay someone so I could just get her number. No, I'm just I don't know if it was just for me, but I think he was saying that he already got a new phone for work. So where you guys at now, what's going on right

today in the bay? Bids today in the bay? I do believe him. I mean, you really can't put anything past anyone, like people are crazy. But I do feel like it's too early to come up with that like specific ass lie, Like why make up a lie like that? Like that's like o d like like a bitch, I'm just hitting you on days sex Like I could just been like, hey, what's up right? You

know? So he's like not only one acknowledging that, Hey, it's been six days since I've text you, but also this is the reason why I've text you, And oh my god, I thought I was never gonna find your number again. I like, you know, I like the hey, I know it's been a while, but it's because of it, like you know, like yeah right, I mean whatever, like whether it was a lie or not. I kind of in the moment was just happy that this mother Parker is still alive. And he texted me, yeah, I'll firm

that because I was there. Actually, no one's jumping up and down, kicking a screaming yeah, anyone makes And he texts me because she was so cute, were taking away thriving. So he did finally text me, what was the last text? Where are you guys at right now? I'm not gonna take the details. No, we're just texting casual like our last text.

I don't know he sent pictures of his dog or something. I do want to bring that up, though, because I originally shared the Carpenter based story, because there's this actual post that's going viral on TikTok right now and it has to do with someone not texting a person within a week. So we're gonna get into that, but real quick, I do want to talk about letting conversations die. I literally was just talking about this with someone yesterday.

So Chris, I'm glad you asked that because now that I don't know if it's because I'm older or just where I'm at right now, but I see texting while dating way differently than I did three years ago, five years ago, ten years ago. Like I definitely think it's okay to let conversations die. I think before it'd be like, oh no, we got to keep this going. I gotta say good morning, Like no, like,

it's okay if we don't. Like I just like the idea that you text me today, you know, like that's cool and you decided whatever, I can send me a picture dog, whatever it may be. But like, I'm totally fine with like conversations dying, and I'm not like, oh, our last text was dry, Like I don't think that. I just think like, oh we talked that day, you know. Is this like like while you're dating you said yeah, and I mean, okay, I agree,

Well what do you what is your other one? No? I thought you like because I feel because I think when once you get into a relationship, I like the like, let me know, like I can't just not hear from you at all, you know, like but I'm not trying to text you all day every day because we both have lives and we're both adults.

Like I like the idea of like good morning, long day to day, it texts you when i'm you know, when I'm home or whatever, And then I think there are different eras different but in the beginning, don't I actually like because it's like do you have a job, Like, if you're texting me twenty four seven, do you have a job, Do you

have a family, do you have a hobby? It's like, why are you texting me twenty And also like I'm trying to get to know you not through the phone, yes, and people could really fake their caps the whole personalities to your phone or you interpret it differently because there's no tone there. Right, you can have a whole personality while I'm texting you and then I see you in person and it's like dry as hell. But we have these like I think that, And it's especially for someone who like me, who's

so delusional and like loves self sabotage and loves overthinking. I especially don't want to do that because when say, you're texting me like all the time and you're this amazing person like of course I'm already if I'm not already making you up in my head to be a certain type of person. That's what girls do. We like in the beginning, and I did hear like when you think, like a first day great, it's because you're great, you know,

it's because like you're amazing. Of course you had a great first date because you're fucking spunky and you're amazing, you know. So like in the beginning, you do naturally like make up a person in your head, like, yeah, I'm going to be in love with this person whatever however you want to say it, but you don't really know what a person is.

And I feel like when you go down that path in the beginning of your texting twenty four to seven, it like almost makes that even more to make up that person in your head, and it becomes even more because you're interpreting every text message the way you want them to say it. Yeah, I'm kind of thinking though, you know, and I'd rather have a phone call at that point. Like I'm like, in the beginning, I am very

guilty of like being a text tex text extent like I want to. I'm like, I think I'm like a puppy dog, Like I think I do do it a lot, but I do understand like the dangers of that because then it's like you don't want you want to say, why not save that for like when you're with him? But but do you feel that if you're not getting those responses the same way? Are you interpreting that as like, oh, this person isn't interested? Yeah, Like would you be mad if

someone will if they're there at work? Or like you know, sometimes you're driving into just reply okay, yeah. I think actually that happened with my current partner in the beginning, Like, but I just I just learned. I was like, oh, he's just not really a text her, like you know, that's just not his motive of communication. Or he's literally fucking busy. He has ten different jobs. So it was definitely was a learning

curve for me. But because my phone was attached to twenty four to seven, Like yeah, and like I used to never use emojis for years until I started working. I never used emojis until I started working at Facebook.

On Facebook, we had we were forced to, yeah, contract we had it was there was like a like an informal group message collaborative thing where they would send emotions and I felt like I was being judged by not so I started using them and now, but I used to never use them and is like a bit A lot of people would be like, oh, it sounds so dry a you sound like you're upset. Yeah, And it's like maybe I just I think it's more healthy not to text someone twenty four to seven.

I think like it makes your in person conversations better. It keeps you from being a delusional ass bitch. People do not owe you twenty four to seven conversations and check ins. And you know, I'm also glued to my phone too. It's very different me, Like when I'm scrolling on Instagram, I don't think I'm like on my phone, Like, how do you text someone and talk to someone like you need your attention? You're talking to people like same. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, I don't like

talking to anyone and silating my coffee. So sometimes my friends will call me first thing, well probably not first thing to them, because they're normal human beings that wake up in a normal morning time, don't work nights like me, but like, I'll be working up first thing in the afternoon and like,

and I can't wait to hear what they have to stand now. They probably have a story or something happened, or you know, they're literally just calling to say hi and have a conversation, but like I generally don't have the energy for them, so like I'll like decline it and they'll see me sharing something, but it's like I'm like that doesn't count really awake on my phone, Like I'm like my brain is half dead right now, you know, Like of course I'm always on my phone too, but it's totally different

when you're like having actual conversations. And also we have to remember like the whole cell phone thing, like it's I mean, it's it's been around for most of our lives now, but it's still very new in many ways, and you have like like no one used to be available on hand like that, like we are now, so we have to or we're learning how to

set boundaries with it. I saw this real on Instagram that said something about like only text when you're trying to like set a date or like like if you're dating someone, like that premature stage is like text them to set your next date when you're going to meet or the next if you're if you're scheduling the phone cloud or like if you're going to meet up somewhere like try to

stick to to let that be what you mostly are texting about. Not obviously not just that because that sounds like corporate, but like like like i'll put here, the calendar there, but it's mainly like like you're taking it back and forth a little bit throughout the day, but the end goal is to set that next day of Oh, we're going to see each other on this day at this place, so I'm gonna pick you up. That's what I'm pretty much doing. I think it's mostly with your schedule. I'll text her

every once in a while so you know I'm still alive. But maybe I'm glad you brought that up because I did want to bring up this other situation and kind of goes with my story too, of uh, Carpenter Bay goes to me for a week. So this girl she is going viral on TikTok because I forgot what she put on her first slide. It was like POV we don't wait for men or something. I don't know. The second side was a screenshot the guy said hey with a bunch of wies looking forward to

later. She responds, Hey, we haven't spoken in a week, and it led me to believe you were no longer interested in our date. So, seeing as we have a different difference in communication styles, I'm no longer interested in going tonight. Have a good one. And some people in the comments are saying that she's being od. Yeah, so long, that's a long reply. That's too much. That is way too much. She's bitter because why can't I can just be uninterested? And I have to give you

a reason why. I could just say you know what this is and that he has four wives in it. Okay, I will say that. I will I will say I will say that, yes, they haven't spoken for a week. But I do think if we have plans and you don't talk to me at least a day before to one, if our plans to text me the day of or like an hour before, she's crazy at all.

I'm like, I think it's planning telling me and then me and not hearing from you a week is crazy, And like, bitch, if I don't hear you from a week and we made plans, I automatically think that the plans are canceled and I'm not going to stop me from doing anything. But does it have to be a day before? No no, literally the middle of the week is nice, like, hey, we're still on for this Friday? Yeah, like anythink that acknowledges we are. I do still want

to plan to date you. It doesn't have to I mean, honestly earlier person too late. Yeah, I think same looking forward to later. If you say you may pans me Monday or Saturday, right, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we have a date that Saturday. You give me Saturday morning. Hey, can't wait to see you later, bitch, No, Jessica wants to go get coffee, and

that's what we're doing instead. Like because I think in the beginning, yeah, if you're talking to someone and you guys have gone to multiple dates like whatever, that's fine, Like I mean still I would like it, or not even maybe maybe maybe in the beginning is when you want to like, hey, we're still good form. Definitely, That's what I'm saying, like at the beginning, because I definitely I would assume you either go to me

or like the plans are not on, Like I don't know you. You could be flaky like with friends, like I do that with my friends to this day, right, Like yeah, this Saturday, Saturday, do you make the plan? And like, Okay, I'm gonna see you next Saturday, but I'm gonna be busy as fucked so like you know, you know, we don't know about the conversations they had, Like no, she's saying

they didn't have any conversations. Though she's saying, hey, I haven't heard from you in a week, like and and I respect her, like she's being direct, like you know, our communications are different. You could go a week without you can make plans with me on Monday and be like, yeah, that bitch, we'll keep it till seven days. And I could go without talking to you. But that's just not my style. So we're just not gonna work out. So I don't think she's crazy, Like she's

like, this is right. I actually agree. I like because she's almost saying she's almost saying, look, I think it's fucked up. I'm not gonna hold you for it. That's the kind of person you are. This is the kind of person I am. It's not gonna work out. Let me ask you this, then, let me ask you ladies this. Why didn't she reach out the day before too? Is that? Like, does she not do it because she expected to do it. No, No, I want to know. Like, I'm like, because if she wanted to

see him, why not shoot him a text? Two? Or does she feel like I'm not gonna shot on the girl if she does that, I don't do whatever some whatever text you want. But there is something I don't know if it's a pride thing. It makes me feel desperate in a way. Okay, you know, like I guess, I guess we want to give you an opportunity if you want to fuck up, we want to give you that opportunity to do so, Like say, yeah, you are an

asshole and you you were actually planning on never hitting me again? Like what do I look like? Hitting you at? Being like hey are we still there? And you're like, oh no, bitch, I'm trying to go ste like stop interrupting me. I don't know. It's hard to explain, but I do feel like if you're the one that made the plans, you kind of have the responsibility to follow up. Yeah, I agree, But if a girl does do it, it's not bad, Like yeah, like

I wouldn't consider it. I wouldn't take it as like, oh, you're really trying to see me like I would actually think like, oh, that's that's nice, you're following up. But I don't have that mindset of damn, you must hella want me or you must no. And I'm not saying if a girl I wouldn't call her desperate either. I think it's the if you are doing that bad, Like I guess it's just like we don't know we I guess, yeah, exactly, we shouldn't expect to do it.

I guess you can do it, But like I think he expectation is that a man will like I also feel like she's assuming that this person or this guy is like ignored her for a whole week and like hated her, like or I don't know, Like I just I feel like if a week went by and like there was no text at all and nobody made like the attempt, and now we're here on the day that the plan that we made and he's like, hey, looking forward to later, and she's like, no,

because you didn't do what I expected you to do, which was to text me and to check in with me. I'm actually deciding that I'm going to create a boundary which go off, go off you that is your boundary that you want someone to text you like the day before. Yeah, and I totally I would want that too. I would want like a check in as well. But we just don't know, like what happened within this one

week span of time. Maybe he's a fucking directing a movie and like he's on I don't know, you know, maybe he's just like he's jet like jet setting around. I want to I want to make sure I go on a date with that guy. You know, even you never know people's lives. So instead of her like making the exception and be like, you didn't want to communicate with me, and that's not how I communicate period. It's like you're not even giving him the benefit of the doubt to like explain himself.

My nosey ass would be like, well, base, where the fuck you've been if I was even that interested in them? So obviously it doesn't seem like she wasn't even that interested in to begin with. I think, hm, dating is so hard. I agree with you, and I don't agree with you. I think I just admire her in a way because I've been the person many times trying to be cool about it or given the benefit

of the doubt. I don't mind doing that. But there is something about I don't know, she like she knows what she wants, and she's like, hey, this ain't cool to me, so I'm cutting it off. I don't like I did this, Like, but shouldn't it be a conversation first? Right if she liked? Obviously if you don't know, but what's that conversation? I like people who what she said, yeah, like, we haven't spoken in a week, and it led me to believe that you're

no longer interested. So he never said I'm not interested. It led her to believe right, Like, so she's interpreting. So the only thing I agree is like, okay, maybe that was a lot for her to like end the whole thing. Sure, but like I think at that point she's like, I don't want someone like she's over it right wherever that made her over it? But I would I think my text would have been like, I assumed you weren't interested in this date anymore? Yeah, there we go.

But then if they say no, I definitely am checked out me because I made plans to like, because I will say okay, maybe I think just what I will say, just regular decorum, like exactly even if we weren't dating. Like, Yeah, I think that's rude at fuck to like

make plans someone. I wouldn't do this to my cousin, to my friend, to anyone, like I would check in if I did not hear from you for seven whole days and we made plans to get coffee and you weren't like hey, Like I literally made plans with the old coworker and we text each other, Hey, we're still going to coffee this day. In general,

I think it's hella rude to not do that. I don't know, like the guy should check in. I agree, No, I don't, gosh, there should be someone checking in for sure, because the kind of lifestyle all of us have right now, things are so busy, things come up all the time, where like you could have something could have came up, or you can't do it no more, you know, so when you check in, it's like, oh, by the way, I can't anymore, or I can, but we gotta tweak this or whatever it is.

Also, though, I'm just she's saying we have different communication styles. Yes, bitch, you're not gonna meet your prince charming. Okay, you're not gonna find the perfect match and you're gonna have to work hard to like work in a relationship. Like relationships are hard, Okay, they don't just like happen at the click of your fingers, like we're gonna be perfect, we're gonna talk to each Hell, oh, it doesn't work. Like it's an every day battle. If it's worth it, then you'll make it worth it.

If it's not worth it, obviously, she's like, he must have been ugly or something. I think it's work when you have, you know, maybe two people who are really busy and are not used to fitting someone else's schedule in so they're both compromising and working on how to be better at that. But I think when it comes to like I need to help you be a better communicator, that's more me working on you. I want to work on the relationship, not the person or where he's at. You know.

That's like two different ways, different ways look at it. But I think it goes back to to like, understand what your expectations are and like you have to have a conversation on this is what my needs are when it comes to and vice versa. And I appreciate her for putting her for sure. Yeah, definitely, if you like them enough, I'd like to have a conversation about it so that if it's meant, could work on it.

This is early dating this guy, like maybe she matched on HIDS and he's like, hey, let's go out this week, and like this is so pressed. This is she's not pressed. She's saying hey, like that was hey, we don't communicate the right like have a good life, Like we haven't spoken in a week, and it led me to believe you were no longer interested. That is a big assumption. That sounds like like butch and I do believe, like do you? And we can't judge for like if

that's really what she's but we don't know what she's been through. If she's like you know what, I unless someone gets it right, I'm not even gonna be in you know, make an attempt. And that's great too, ab issue. I don't think she's like that press. I think she barely knows this person. So I think it's even easier for her to be like red Flag and I don't even know you like that. I'm not into you enough to be like this is something we could work at or a relationship I

see we can maybe fix down the road. Like, I already know by the way you acted now you're not the one for me. And you know what, I take my answer back about both sides being able to check in. I mean, it's not the end of the world whoever sends that text. But at the end of the day, this is a man who set up a date said Hey, let's get dinner. She responds, yes, I would love to have dinner with you. Can't wait, puts it in our calendar. Technically I sent the last text. I agreed to it.

Like the least you can do is is text me back and follow up and be like, hey, are we still on? Because I already know that you agreed to it. I literally said I'm in so you could follow up. And it's not even following up. It's just simply confirming the plans that you made. It's just confirming because say something does come up in that week,

because life happens and you can't go on this date anymore. Bitch, Why am I the one texting you first and so you could tell me no like you should have been text me, Hey, the plans aren't gonna work out. So I had to text you so for you to like tell yeah, So no, a guy needs to following. What if you knew that it was a no, Like something came up, like I asked you out, you say yes, I haven't reached out yet, and then something comes up where you're like, oh, damn, I can't go anymore. Are

you gonna wait until I reach out to tell me no? I know? Yeah, that's like, oh, I'm texting you know what. I'm texting you before the fucking day of our date. Like that's when you'd be like, hey, you know what, something came up for canceling. I'm definitely gonna let you know, but before the day, Like I think making any kind of plans that day is rude and like you probably didn't want to be. I'm dead at the I'm at her ending with have a good one.

But I gave her prose for like like you all said, she knows what she wants period and maybe she's waiting for it, like unless you you show up? Do you guys think she was being My first word was insecure, and I was like, let me are rewind that that was the first thing I said. Now that I'm thinking about the beginning, yeah, yeah, because for real, if it was me, I would if I was in her shoes, and I was mad that somebody took a week to solidify the

plan and see if I'm still down for the plans. If it was me in that situation, I would be mad, but at the instant of them being like are we still down for tonight and be like out of myself and maybe like no, exactly such a losing Yeah, I'm actually here at the barady you drink. You guys just want to be her already here want to

drinks. We just want to be loved. Okay, you know, I'm trying to see all a few points here, but I think like if I was the guy, like i'd be like, Okay, I didn't message her all week, so I get it, but like you ain't got to hit me with the whole paragraph. Yeah, yeah, she's my hero because if it was me, I would have folded. I would have folded, because if you were okay with something and then like they give you the slightest bit

of you guys think it before it doesn't work out good. I go on that day and it ends up being really great and you realize like, oh damn, like like it could be better with somebodydeo to write who takes the time to confirm plans, because I see a girl who just saw one red flag and told herself these are problems I don't want to deal with down the road, because a lot of times we do we're the cool girl, or we ignore the red flag, give the benefit of the doubt, think it's

something we could work on, and then later down the road we're like, oh shit, it's not just one red flag. It's a circus in this bitch, because because you really can't change people. You can't change people. I'm thinking of the Bridesmaids, like people change, but they really say the same. Literally, you cannot change someone. Oh my god. Yeah maybe yeah, all the whys too, like he's actually gay because it's too many wise stranger. Yeah, I want to remember text you two weeks ago.

She's valid, she's valid, but that chill, what do you call? You can consolidate this, like, I guess, like you can be more concise, you know, Okay, it's not that long of a text, you guys. It's like, I think she was pretty. I think she was pretty conciseed. I think she was pretty concise. Actually, I know because the first whole two sentences you don't need. I think it was a perfect, perfectly constructed text. I think she said what she needs to say,

but I do think there are assumptions that were made. But I also think her mind was made up and she didn't want to be with him anymore. And that's fine. Next to that. Next, I don't say that. Next I would have folded. That's what I have to say. That's okay, that's not a bad you know, because you can go in and you can still hold your ground on the date, you know, Yeah,

you're gonna get hopefully a free meal or I still want to win. If it went terrible, I would have text literally that for the record, maybe at this bar we're getting hammered, thank you, and we'll talk about it on the pod next week. Okay, well, I think we'll wrap it up there with all our texting politics. I'm going to text Carpenter way back and we're gonna follow. I'm gonna tek all the toxic men that are still that still remained in my life, right, Yeah, I love that toxic

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I love you, Aye. I mean, I don't know do people really change. I think they do, yeah, but I mean they still stay who they are pretty much. I think we change all the time. I think we stay the same, but grow, I guess a little bit. I think if you're growing, then you're changing. But I mean we're changing from who we are, which we always stay as. No, really, I don't think so, think so. I know it even brick just a sack. It just a sack. It just a sack. It just allock, just all the sack. It the record