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Fly Out Day

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Fly Out Day lands every Thursday evening with a front-row seat to the chaos and conversations behind Capitol Hill’s final countdown of the week. Hosts Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman — Punchbowl News founders and best-selling authors — deliver unfiltered insight into key players and high-stakes drama shaping Washington’s most consequential day. Power. People. Politics. All before the weekend scramble.
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Episodes

Breaking Down the Health Care Fight with Sen. Bill Cassidy

Sen. Bill Cassidy sits down with Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer to chat about the future of health care, RFK Jr. and a possible Trump endorsement. Stick around after for That’s Not Gonna Fly with our very own Andrew Desiderio and NBC News's Ryan Nobles. Fly Out Day lands every Thursday evening — your front-row pass to Capitol Hill’s end-of-week chaos and conversations.

Nov 20, 202543 min

Majority Whip Emmer opens up about Epstein probe, shutdown aftermath and more

Majority Whip Tom Emmer swings by the townhouse to sit down with Jake Sherman about the Epstein probe, shutdown aftermath and more. Stick around after the interview for a fun That’s Not Gonna Fly with NBC's Scott Wong and The Washington Post's Marianna Sotomayor. Fly Out Day lands every Thursday evening — your front-row pass to Capitol Hill’s end-of-week chaos and conversations.

Nov 13, 202541 min

Sen. Chris Murphy Digs In

Sen. Chris Murphy stops by the townhouse to unpack Democrats’ Tuesday wins and what it means for the shutdown battle. Stick around after for a conversation with New York Times' Catie Edmondson and The Washington Post's Paul Kane and our fun That's Not Gonna Fly segment.

Nov 06, 202540 min

What's Next In Shutdown Standoff?: No. 2 Dem On Their Strategy

Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer sit down with Democratic Whip Katherine Clark to unpack Democrats’ strategy through the shutdown. Then Geoff Bennett and Julie Tsirkin join for analysis — and a fresh round of That’s Not Gonna Fly.

Oct 30, 202536 min

Inside the West Wing with James Blair

White House Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair joins Anna and Jake at the Punchbowl News Townhouse to take us inside the government shutdown, now on its 23rd day. • Shutdown: W.H. invites Senate to Rose Garden Club post shutdown • Midterms: Trump's spending on races • That's Not Gonna Fly: Trump's Ballroom Plus, a post-interview breakdown with CNN's Alayna Treene and our very own redistricting expert Ally Mutnick.

Oct 23, 202539 min

Inside the shutdown with Steve Scalise

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) joins Anna and Jake at the Punchbowl News Townhouse to take us inside the government shutdown, now on its 16th day. • Shutdown: Scalise brushed off concerns that people will turn their anger toward GOP • Cassidy: Scalise declined to endorse Sen. Bill Cassidy’s (R-La.) reelection effort • Future plans: Scalise said he will run for reelection in 2026 Plus, a post-interview breakdown from MSNBC’s Laura Barrón-López and The New York Times’ Carl Hulse, wher...

Oct 16, 202538 min

Sen. Ruben Gallego talks shutdown politics

Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) comes to the Punchbowl News Townhouse to share his views on the government shutdown, now on its ninth day. When will it end? Gallego doesn't see a quick end to the shutdown. ACA: The Arizona Democrat is open to negotiations. Grijalva: Gallego continues to push Speaker Mike Johnson to swear in Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva (D-Ariz.) Plus, John Bresnahan, Punchbowl News' co-founder, and Igor Bobic, HuffPost's senior politics reporter, join for a post-interview conversati...

Oct 09, 202534 min

Special Edition: The man advising Trump through the shutdown

National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett came to the Punchbowl News Townhouse to talk about the government shutdown. The White House official also spoke about tariffs, saying the Trump administration will send billions of dollars to hurting farmers impacted by tariffs and they don't need Congress to pass a bill to do it. After, Jake and Anna were joined by CNN’s Phil Mattingly and Fox News’ Jacqui Heinrich for a panel discussion.

Oct 01, 202539 min

Hakeem Jeffries' take: Inside the funding fight

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries comes to the Punchbowl News Townhouse for an exclusive interview projecting confidence. Shutdown showdown: Jeffries insists Republicans will own a government shutdown, but hopes that progress could be made over the next five days. Redistricting: The House minority leader doesn't see “any circumstance” where Republicans will net 10 new seats by November 2026. The Mamdani of it all: Jeffries still hasn't endorsed Zohran Mamdani for the New York City mayoral el...

Sep 25, 202537 min

Senate Minority Leader Schumer gets candid on shutdown politics

Punchbowl News co-founders Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer sit down with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for an exclusive interview discussing: The prospects of a government shutdown; who's to blame? NYC mayoral election; will Schumer endorse Zohran Mamdani? And, the Buffalo Bills Plus, Andrew Desiderio, Punchbowl News' senior congressional reporter, and Burgess Everett, Semafor's congressional bureau chief, join for a post-interview conversation....

Sep 18, 202533 min

Speaker Mike Johnson on Shutdowns, Epstein & 2026

🚨 Fly Out Day Episode 1 🚨 Punchbowl News co-founders Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer sit down with Speaker Mike Johnson for an exclusive interview. They discuss: • The possibility of a government shutdown this fall • Johnson’s thoughts on how Congress is handling the Jeffrey Epstein situation • The 2026 elections Plus a conversation with CNN’s Manu Raju and the Boston Globe’s Jackie Kucinich. Plus, John Bresnahan. This wide-ranging, inside-the-Beltway conversation kicks off our new YouTube series...

Sep 04, 202540 min

Introducing Fly Out Day

Fly Out Day captures the real conversations Washington insiders are already having before we lose them for the weekend. Canned talk points? That’s not going to fly at the PBN townhouse. Subscribe to watch weekly on our YouTube channel.

Aug 20, 202536 sec
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