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Flex and Frome on Kita. Contrary to popular belief, the Flex and Frooms show was not the first time through me and I have joined forces Scizzard.
As she's motioning, right, I mean that, what did you mean?
In twenty twenty, For those of you who don't know, I own a conversation card game company. It's called Reflex, and I reached out to miss Frumini and I said, we're going to make some expansion packs.
Do you want to make your own card game?
Can I just say the honor and the privilege to be held in the same esteem as Bobo, Yeah, your previous podcast hosts, Yeah and joy Ride. Joy Ride one of my favorite Sydney cre icon icon. Don't use that term loosely or lightly. No, you really don't we mean that, but for me did say yes. And so she made a conversation card game. And bring it up though is Somebody messaged me a couple weeks ago and said, how did you not know I Frumy was a Simpsons person?
She fully has a Simpsons question in the deck. I said, look, having one Simpson's oriented question, does not make one a Simpson's person Let's get that straight in the same way. I won't even go there, but I thought, let's play said game. Let's answer the Simpson question on air. And by let I mean you just answer it.
You had asked, what.
Was the question?
If you're a Simpsons character, who would you be? Yes, answer it, please, Lisa Simpson.
Is that by vibe or that's an accurate observation anyone would make.
Definitely vibe, it's an internal vibe. I love that Maggie is part of the family, and yet she's on in her own little world. She's got quite a cheeky streak and from I know, snatched snatched mullet, and she just whenever she grows up, she's like the president or she's some really cool job. They grow up in the yeah, like they have like flash forwards, got it, but they never get older than eight.
You know.
You know.
I did do some research and based on my personality type, i'd apparently be Bart, which I don't know.
Oh, you have major Bart vibes about you, which means.
You are a Bart.
Oh don't you know what that means?
But is that tongue backed.
Bart has short, spiky hair.
Yeah, I know what he looks like.
He's yellow, he is pissy, he's culturally ambiguous. Yeah, he's what they are from Springfield. But is mischievous, naughty, always into tention, has a sweet streak, continually pissing off Homer. So quite a contrary. And I'd say, do you.
Know I only became cheeky with age, though, like I became more of like a mischievous person with age. You are sweeter as a child, for sure, shy, I think so, Yeah, not like shy, reserved, really reserved, keep to myself, don't want to like draw too much attention. I mean that stopped at sixteen, but changed.
I don't know.
I just thought I think it was like a self important thing. I'm like, I think that what I'm thinking is far more valuable than what I'm hearing, so I should contribute.
I've heard what you've had to say. I'm sat quiet. Time to get it back.
I reckon I was the opposite that Alas. Flex has in her hands a conversation card deck that we collaborated on in twenty twenty. You can actually still buy it, yeah, on the Flex website Flex Factory. We're going to answer some of the questions.
Not the crumbs.
Is there crumbs in there?
Yeah?
Look it's like glistening, It's like chicken schnitzel of juice.
I'm sick. I'm sick. I'm sick. I'm sick.
Well, let's answer the question. Do you just dicuss your sexual partner's genitals with your friends?
Absolutely not?
No, I don't either, would not do not so wild. Remember that time in the interne where I spoke about sex really freely because I'm like, why.
You bitch just don't talk about this? No, it wasn't. It was I think like somewhere around bobon Flex.
I remember facilitating your own nuts?
Yeah? I was like, some of you guys just need to come respectfully on your own as well.
Do you know what it was?
Because it was at time on the Internet where the conversations around dating were centered around the orgasm gap, and it's like, why do heterosexual women participate in hookup culture if.
You're not even getting a nut? What is that about?
And then I was like, the conversation to me is really frustrating because your personal experience is so centered around what your partner will I won't do for you, and so what agency do you have to like facilitate a joint experience, because if there's one thing about rooting a straight man, he's gonna get his.
Nut precisely, precisely.
But yeah, But then I was talking to a friend the other day as well, and she was like, oh, I was having this conversation with this guy.
And I was like, how did you go from like.
A casual conversation to like sexual tension and like rooting. You don't even know this guy. And she's like, oh, he asked me about my hidden folder. I was like, what's a hidden folder? Now? If you're real sheltered, I was like, what's a hidden folder? So when I foun out what a fins to us.
I was like, what is this? Anyway?
She's like a hidden folder, like where you put all like your nudes and other people's nudes. I'm like, other people's what are.
You talking about other people's nuds?
She's like, you just keep it in there, and then like only you know it's there, you can access it.
Uh huh. Anyway, our conservative energies, where were you in Barrah?
Oh my gosh, okay, ready for your next question, mister A meaning yes, yes, your honor. Do you think it's okay to steal from big supermarkets.
This.
I really wrote this in twenty twenty, didn't I? Yeah, kleptomania is a mental illness.
We'll stop it there. Thank you.
Thank you said all you need to say. Are we all complicit in Crystal Lily's success? I love this question I heard of its time. Honestly, Oh my god, because the thing about not even cancel culture broadly, but when people point to divert attention away, I'm like, it's a tactic as old as time itself.
When people are pointing too much of the bad thing. I'm looking at you.
Extra because on most days, and I'm not an indifferent person, I feel strongly about a few things, But on most days I'm looking away from things. I see something I don't like, I'm likes it is what it is. Said something run me the wrong way?
It is what it is.
People who are constantly you're hiding or you're trying to divert attentions. Now I'm looking extra close.
Do you think that often?
I do.
Yeah.
I think it's like it's a what do you call it? It's not a scare tactic. I think it's a defense mechanism. I think that people are just acutely aware of how critical they are and how how much they don't want to be exposed to the criticism of that degree.
Yes, he says, it's like when you like, when you judge yourself, like when you don't like the way you look, for example, that's when you look at other people in that way you project the lens.
Yeah, so totally agree.
And you know, someone like Chris lily Or when we were having that conversation about like, you know, the backbone of his career is by parodying people of color and minorities, It's like, yeah, but were you not laughing along like you were consuming that content? So not only did you platform it like you've invested in it. We're using the words now, But that's do you know what I'm saying?
It's like you, how do you not recognize that? And then how at this very moment are you able to detach from how you felt about it, what you thought was humorous about it, and make it about this one guy who, for all intents and purposes, we would not know his name unless you all watched his show and.
Gave him fame. Would you know what I'm sad? Serious?
He would not we would not know what the name Chris Lily meant. How we not have engaged in some capacity.
Have you heard of the philosophical theory called I think it's like presentism. I could be so wrong, but it's when you look at things from the past from the current lens.
Ah, this is why I hate a bit. She's like Twilight's not even good. Shut up, you weren't there.
You weren't there. I understand ten years ago she was fresh, unique, never been seen.
We're discussing age relations like listening skin the CGI was ahead of its time, like this guy was redefining the alpha male archetype.
So no more, they weren't doing it like that on.
Yeah, I think it's very I agree, there's definitely. Ah, it's so hard because I think a lot of people there hard is in the right place when I think like society changes and a lot of people get understanding of what is right and wrong, particularly in Australia. Like I don't think we're taught what we see on TV as funny and not funny then changes what we think is acceptable.
Of course, that's with anything though, but I feel like the vibe goes okay, It's one thing to make an assessment, a moral core, a judgment call, preference call, but it gets punitive really quickly. It gets like this person needs punishment too quickly for my liking, you know what I mean, Like the punishment often doesn't fit the crime.
With social commentary, this thing was.
On the ABC literally, but like you know what I mean, for the masses, it was just a different like we just didn't I don't.
Know, but it's the reconciling that people don't do. Like two things can be true. You can say like now like damn, like I don't know what we were thinking then, and.
It's not right.
Great, but it all dubbed it into like this one guy and he managed to brainwash all of us and said.
Be serious, you know what.
Revisionist theory.
Yes.
The last question, which is probably why I don't do a lot of online discourse.
These don't put it on me.
No, No, it's because the conversation doesn't move quickly enough to a resolution. What's your opinion on filming people in public without their consent? We're still talking about it now and it's still not clear. Probably even it's gotten worse.
I would say now if I see someone film anyone. It is a massive, massive red flag, massive red flag. I cannot explain how much of a red flag it is. I think it's not because I'm paranoid about people filming me. I have been filmed. We've all been filmed. I know how exposing it is. It's never it's never nice. I can't think of a single person that I've seen exposed on someone else's Instagram that I thought, yeah, they would love that. This complete like this whole community of strange
that they don't know. I'm making an assessment on something they did that is usually unacceptable in that community, or we or annoying, or you're drunk, or you have a mental illness. Like it's always something that's out of the ordinary, never in a good way. So and again it's like I think it's something that we've learnt why it's wrong. Yeah, in a way, like since having the Internet, Like I think like Brown Cardigan, for example, all that kind of
stuff that was very normal. I love that kind of shit up until maybe like three years ago that I did I actually start thinking, oh, like I wonder how that made people feel. Now that we hear these stories that people who for example, have gone viral. Then we think, oh shit, people actually like can actually affect someone. They don't just think of them like that is them. It's not this moment in time that they're removed from. It's actually them. What do you think?
Can't get into it right now, But thank you for sharing you With'slex Frooms Love you.
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