First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 30 January

On today's First Up pod: we're in Taranaki where a 16 year old from Stratford has become a world champion swimmer; travellers can now get their kicks on Route 52 as a previously treacherous section of road in the Tararua District has transformed; Labour's deputy Carmel Sepuloni is back in Parliament and we talk about the party's plans for 2025 and Trillium Technologies boss James Parr explains how the Deep Seek AI was comparatively so cheap to make. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!