Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Fire Up. I have an extremely extraordinarily good panel tonight. It's me and the guys. It doesn't get any better than that, does it? Never? No, I feel like I'm back home on my show. So I'm gonna first welcome my co host, mister Smoking Jeremy B. How's it going tonight, Jeremy fantastic? Candy? How are you? I'm okay, I'm doing okay. And that mister Will how are you tonight? Glad to be back? Thank you,
Thank you, Candy, thank you, Jeremy. Love talking sports. You know it. I talked about it last show. Can't wait? Awesome? And then we have special guests Dan, How are you tonight? Dan? I'm doing pretty good. Candy? How are you this evening? I'm doing well. Why don't you tell since this is the first time on our network, Dan, why don't you tell us a little bit about you and your shows and what you do well. I co host line Talk every morning with JB. I am the owner of Bond Doing Creations. We do a
lot of mini homemades. Right now, we're getting into shirts, tumblers, hats, woodworking, resin work, just anything kind of sports relady to what we're going with that awesome awesome sounds cool. Well, guys, we have some awesome topics tonight. We're going to be talking about NFL and tackling players
on knees or below out. We're going to talk about the New Pact twelve, and then we're going to talk about a little Caitlin Clark and how we think her influence on the game is going to be here and now that she's declared for the WNBA. So with that, we're going to start off with the NFL and talking about tackling players. So I'm going to turn it over
to mister Smoke and Jeremy b for this. The NFL is trying to get a rule through the owners during the winter meetings and it has to do with specifically the tackling near the knee or below area because of all the knee injuries that have happened during those segments. Yes, four of those over the last three year or two years has been due to Kirby Joseph. It wasn't intentional. You're going to go back and watch, if you watch the whole video, just still frame it. But at the same time, I kind of
agree with it. But yet, if we keep changing the way people have to tackle, eventually, is it even going to be tackling football anymore. I'll go back to like the Pro Bowl and do flag football, right, Yeah, Dan, your thoughts about tackling knees, they're basically taking away any way you can hit a wide receiver. We're running back anymore. And I don't care what any of the league people want to say about safety. Violence
is still what sells football. You take all the violence out and Washington numbers and the ratings drop. I agree, I agree, Hello ken Well your thoughts about tackling knees. It's a two sided coin. But I agree with Jeremy and I agree with and it's gonna be so hard to enforce because this
is the way you tackle receivers and running backs. Unfortunately, Kareem Hunt got tackled last year and his knee twisted the wrong way in that didn't look good, and that was probably the big red flag that said we got to get something done. Sooner or later. These guys are gonna have devastating knee injuries and be out for a while. So but it's also the way you tackle the receivers and running backs. Like I said, so, I don't think
it gets past this offseason the rule change. But if there's a way you can demonstrate it with former players and say we prefer this method over this method, do a tutorial, then we'll see. So, guys, are we starting to get soft here in the NFL or what? Like? Where do you where do you stop it? So you can't tackle the knee, you can't tackle with the ankles, you can't talk tackle obviously the head, and I get the head, don't get me wrong, But where do you stop
it? Late said Jeremy, like it's gonna become flag football or something almost because this is football is football, you know, going in that you you're susceptible to these kind of and I will say, how often is it? You're not. None of the players are intentionally trying to hurt the other players, to take them out for any length of time. All they're trying to do is make a play. Defense is supposed to make play. Offensive line
they're supposed to protect. Runners are supposed to run, you know, like like Dan said, violence, I hate to say this sells. Let's face it, in a hockey game, do you want to see them just pass the puck or do you want to see fights for the longest time you honesty fights? I mean, that's that's what the NHL was, and that's what
you enjoy. I think you're drawing a fine line here in the NFL if they pass something like this, because I think it just changes things and I think it takes too much away from the defensive players or the people that are trying to, you know, tackle, because, like I said, otherwise than might as well be flag football, and that's not what the NFL is or has been. Any other comments from the panel about this topic, Yes,
of course. Now if they're going to take away the knee tackle, what are you supposed to do when the running back of the receiver makes them so real small so the only two places you could possibly hit them is then easier the head? Is that an automatic foul coming in right there? Exactly
right? Was add the same thing number one when you're a smaller defensive back, because most of the defensive back is the only way what to two twenty at most, So when they're trying to tackle a two hundred and sixty pound tight end, what are they taught to do? Go for the legs? Is you take out their legs, they can't keep going, And it's a
fundamental way of tackling a guy bigger than you. If you take that away, and you take that and give the advantage to a two hundred and sixty pound tight end that all you gotta do is shrug you off of his hips, there's gonna be a lot more broken tackles in the league. I agree, I agree, I agree, and like I like, we said, where do you stop? Like, where does it stop then? Because now all of a sudden you can't tackle there? Can you tackle with the ankles?
Can you tackle with the feet? Can you tackle? Like? I mean, let's face it, you can get injured a lot of different ways. You can even get injured not contact in football, like it just it can happen. And do we like to see the injuries that take players out, No, of course not. But it still is that kind of a game, and you kind of learn to expect some injuries, hamstrings, whatever it could be. But I get the whole head in head and keep away
from tackling in the head and using the helmet. I get those. But as far as players are on the knees, again, it's part of football and as long as they're not really trying to take somebody out and take their knees out and really injure them. You gotta be careful here because how are you going to enforce it and everything too. So okay, well we have the Pack two. Let's talk. Let's talk about them and what's going on with them smoking Jeremy B. This was your topic. The Pack commissioner,
I can't call him the Pack twelve because there's only two teams. Is fighting to keep his two teams in the Pack two or the two packs I like to call it, because there's only two teams in it, and that's Washington
State and Oregon State. Correct, Correct. So the reason why he's trying to keep it going is they're going to try to incorporate a lot of those Mountain West teams and probably Hawaii just to keep it going because Hawaii's always been a travel destination destination for the PAC twelve anyways, or they're out of conference. If they add them to the conference, that makes it a little more viable. I think he wants to get it to at least a six or
eighteen conference to keep it alive. Dan, your thoughts, there's a reason there's only two teams left in that conference because there's the only two new two that nobody wants it do it exactly realistically, If the conference isn't going to give you a shot into the playoffs for winning it, there's no point for
teams to be there. I pulled the conference. Will your thoughts? Yeah, Supposedly they're trying to keep the teams encouraged by media rights, but really, like, and I get it, they're gonna try and bring in Mountain West teams like Hawaii and maybe Boise State these other teams, but like, these games are on late at night anyway on the East Coast, and they don't get a lot of viewers. And for the conference to stay alive, they're gonna need eight six more teams to stay relevant in a two year period.
And you know what, I hate to say this and be negative, but I wouldn't be surprised. Somehow, some way, I know they were left over because no one wanted them. But somehow, some way, I feel like the PAC twelve or the PAC two is going to dissolve and not
be a conference anymore. Okay, So this conference has been in existence one hundred and eight years as ten of its members are poised to join other Power five conferences Beginning July one, The soon to be two team Struck Conference struck a scheduling agreement with the Mountain West for the upcoming football season, and both the Beavers and Cougars will be affiliate members of the West Coast Conference in twelve
sports, including men's and women's basketball. Now, they have said that the league, the NC two A, has given them a grace period that allows them to operate as a two team conference in twenty twenty four and five. But how realistic is it to keep going for TV rights for anything else like that? Makes makes it very different? And honestly, as many teams have jumped from one conference to another conference, are we heading to there are only
being three or four conferences? I think so? Will it become more like the NFL and you know AFC and NFC like are we are we headed towards that? I have said for the past two years, with the way teams have been jumping ship and going specifically mostly to the Big ten in the SEC, You're gonna see if it continues this way. And NC double A keeps changing everything so often and enforcing the rules and ways that are unlike they may
succeed from the NC Double A and form their own college football league. Yeah, exactly, and personally I think that, No, it seems obvious. No recruits are gonna say go to the PAC twelve and say, oh, Oregon State, Washington State, Yeah, I want to play, unless it's like a hometown kid who only gets off or some because I think they're gonna lose so many recruits because of this. Yeah. I mean, if you actually look at it, Washington State and Oregon State, do you know what
they get. It's kind of like the difference between the recruits that go to Michigan State versus Michigan Yep, leftovers. I'll look at the recruiting classes different. The four and five star recruits that are in the area, nine times out of ten will go to Michigan, Ohio State or some other school in another state that where the weather's nicer. The three the lower end four, three and two star recruits go to Michigan State most of the time. The
leftovers. Yep, No, I agreed. I was just saying I agree with Germany leftovers. That's horrible. Yeah, it's horrible talking about people like that. Will Sorry, true. Third sometimes it does. It does, Okay, So we're gonna talk a little bit of basketball now. Iowa star Caitlin Clark will enter the twenty twenty four WNBA draft. She announced today. She is the all time leading scorer in women's college football with three thousand,
six hundred and fifty points. She only needs eighteen points on Sunday against Ohio State to pass Pete Maravich is n C two a record of three thousand, six hundred and sixty seven points. How do we think she's in the WNBA? And do you think she has increased the heightened awareness of women's college basketball and WNBA? And do you think she's gonna influence young girls to follow in her footsteps? This time we're gonna start with Dan. Well, she's definitely
heightened college basketball for women. But you know, in my personal opinion, that is the height of the sport for women. College basketball is where they get all their attention. The WNBA nobody really cares about it because it's a newer thing. You don't have all the highlights stuff to catch people's eye. It's more of a fundamental game that nobody cares about anymore. They want ball range, threes and big dunks. And I think Katelyn Park's a hell of
a player. I think she's gotta be a star in WNBA. But I don't see one individual person being able to change the entire landscape of the game to make it where it's attractive to people to watch. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Will your thoughts as you guys know, I'm on a w NBA, NBA and C doa a show with our friend Megan and so we we talked about Caitlin and the other women in Caitlin's phenomenal and yes, people say, oh, back then pistol peet didn't have a three point line.
Well, we can't help that now because times have changed, sports have changed from the NBA, NFL, MLBU have you know when I'm talking about. But she has brought attention not only her, but Paige Becker's Angel Reese. They sell out arenas. There's been a lot of women the last few years who have brought the women's basketball game going up and up and up,
and Caitlin's only making it better. Like Kobe, Kobe was a girl that his daughter was gonna probably play at Yukon or one of the major basketball women's schools, And yeah, it's getting eyeballs all around the country. Like I said, it's selling out arenas. And it's gonna be very interesting because she's projected to go number one, which I do think she will to the Indiana Fever and she'll be playing with for Aliah Boston, Melissa Smith, Kelsey Mitchell,
and Erica Wheeler. And you know what, do I think show average triple doubles like she does in college? No? But do I think shall have a good stat one? Yeah, I'm expecting maybe like fifteen points per game, maybe thirteen points per game, six assists and two rebounds. But yeah, she's bringing eyes around the country. Men. Women NBA players sometimes go to WNDA games like it's it's it's awesome what she's doing for smoking Jeremy
b your thoughts. See, the Iowa has gotten to the point where courtside seats are ten thousand dollars a piece to watch Kitlyn Lark right now, the nosebleeds are around fifteen hundred apiece. It's not how much it's costing you go to that small basketball court. But at the same time, she kind of dominates the news for Iowa basketball right now as a whole. The Iowa's men's basketball team hasn't been doing that good, and it's all about Caitlyn Kark Clark.
I think she has the chance to help the WNBA become more relevant than what it is. But you know what, I wanta see her drafted the girl that looked her off last year after the national championship game. I want her to go to the team that is their rival because that would make for
some heated stuff every game. Oh yeah, yep, that's true. Okay, So now it's my favorite segment, the segment that I came up with, which is where we all talk about my town and it's either a story from the town you currently live in or the town you grew up in, favorite team that you grew up watching, or whatever. So we are going
to start with mister will Cool Cool. So I lived at Charlotte, North Carolina and the Shaw Hornets are planning to hire Brooklyn Nets executive Jeff Peterson as the head of basketball operations to replace a long time basketball operations Mitch Cup who
is as we know, with the Lakers. And mister Peterson is thirty five years old and he has connections with the Hornets co owner owner Sorry and team governor Rick Chanall back to their landa days when they were both working for the Hawks, and he was also instrumental of bringing Kyrie Irving to the Brooklyn Nets. He also has a connection to current Hornets Seph Curry. When Seth Curry
was in Brooklyn, mister Peterson was working for the Nets. So it's cool to see a young mind who's six years older than me go into a big role like this in a state that loves, eats, breathes, and sleeps
basketball in North Carolina. And hopefully this brings a winning culture to the Hornets, and they haven't made the playoffs in years, so hopefully it brings people more people the games and and sells more tickets and as people buy more merchant, get us more good players so we can build up and become a more prominent basketball team. So that's going on in Charlotte. Okay, Dan, what's happening? First of all, what is your town and what's happening there?
I live up in Valleyview, Pennsylvania, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of nowhere, and the closest thing any anything sport related to me would be penn State and the one you think coming out of there is Chop Robinson looking like Michael Parsons at the combine. That that is it is? There is there a team that you follow more that you let you would like to talk about. Though I'm a big Giants fain. I grew up in Point Pledge in New Jersey, and I'm a big Giants fan right now,
I guess that entire team is a total mess. But our coach was rated one of the most like coaches by players in the entire league. We may be able to keep our start running back. I pray to God, yes we don't want him go on to Baltimore. No, No, okay, really not much, Okay, Jeremy, Well, here in Michigan, we got a lot to talk about. It looks like the Red Wings, even though they lost tonight, are still in pretty good control of making it
as the eighth seed in the playoffs. And we all know how that worked out for Florida last year. So I'm not saying they'll win it all, but the chance is there. So you're saying there's a chance, which means that the Tigers do as good as they're projected to do. Michigan for the first time that I can remember, can have three teams in the playoffs in their respective seasons in one calendar year. Amazing. We all know the Pistons aren't going to be in the playoffs for probably for the next ten years,
the way the great they're going. It's true, that is true. Okay, So I struggled with what to come up with. I'll be honest with you guys tonight, because I do live in South Florida. So there are the Florida Panthers. They're doing well. FAU men's basketball is doing good. USF men's basketball is doing good. In fact, we're going to the FAU game on Saturday, so I'll be sitting down on the court taking pictures again. And then I'm but my heart is in Wisconsin because that's where I grew
up. So I am, yes Packer fan. Uh so the dismay of some of you. But I'm gonna talk a little bit about books. So I read a re the other day that they were talking about Damian Lillard and how he's lonely in Milwaukee. Well, of course he's lonely in Milwaukee. His family doesn't live there. His family still is in Portland. His mom,
his kids, will even make this street. But I will also say for all of the naysayers of Doc Rivers, and I have yet to yet to hold my opinion, but the Bucks defense has moved from number twenty second up to number six in the NBA since Doc Rivers, So he has improved the team. Now whether he can take us all the way, because there are a lot of people that think Doc Rivers cannot coach in the postseason,
that has yet to be seen. But he has didn't improve over a team that got rid of the defensive player of the year and started out really bad because they move the defensive player of the year. So they have improved that. But good luck to all the teams. As March Madness is going to start, they're going to start. Their teams are playing in the last five two weeks, three weeks, I want to say, of the seasons,
and then their conference's coming up two weeks. Well, it is a good time for college basketball, and it's a good time to be watching college basketball because they are vuying for things, and like the NHL, they're going to be vuying for playoffs. At the time of year, you see good games and teams try and rise or you're going to find them fall flat on their face and not go anywhere. So I would just say go out and joy,
And there's nothing like going to see some of these in person. Yes, you can watch things on TV, but there's there's something to be said about actually live. You know when we when we had COVID and everybody was couldn't go. You had to watch things on TV. But go see some of these. Go support some of the college games and see the excitement. But my one thing is if you do go, do not stirm the courts.
Don't injure players. Please safety. You can be excited and you can go down on the court, but you do not have to storm the court. There is a difference Dan and he I kind of saw you, Yeah, devil, don't injure players. I watched that clip of that guy like probably fifteen times, and he body checked the fade. He put himself in Horm's way. Yeah, the fan reacts. All the bunch or push to
the back happened, and then as he got hurt. It wasn't because it was initiated by the fan, but at the same time they got to do something to kind of regulate it, to get the opposing team off the court a little better. Maybe get some of the backups already in the locker room and then just leave it with the five guys that are on the floor there with the coach. Do something to limit how many players are on the floor before the fans storm on it, especially at a big rivalry game like that,
because that's when it's gonna happen. It doesn't happen at your normal games. It happens at those big rivalry games, especially when one's way underrated compared to the other team and they knock them down when they're a ranked team. I don't care who you are, those kids are hitting the floor. They're gonna be like a down with the sick. You know, many of fields. No, I'm saying a storm many of fields. Mm hmm. I
was at the USF FAU game. And then for any of you that no college basketball or no the state of Florida, USF is in Tampa on the West coast and FAUS in Boca, and they are in the East coast. FAU was ranked, USF was not. USF has a ten thousands plus seat stadium. FAU has like a three thousand seat stadium. They played at USF USF stuffed that stadium. It was full. It was the largest crowd they've had. It was over ten thousand. And Yes, USF came away with
the win, and so yes, they stormed the court. And it was interesting because I was literally taking pictures on the court. So they came and they stormed around us, and it was interesting how they tried to still usher the FAU team off the court because obviously they wanted to celebrate with their home court and they had some security, but not enough that there was still getting pushed around and stuff like that. So yes, I think something has to
be done. I'm not exactly sure if there's somehow they've got to be able to hold people off until people go. Jeremy wants to say, so something I can. I can see it. Oh two hours ago, broken by JPA Football Report, which is a Jaspery Football that writes for the NFL network's website, the Lions are expected to meet with i'm on ra Saint Brown's agent at the NFL Scouting Combine to discuss a long term contract. That's something I
was saying that that I'm wanted. He's said repeatedly on his own podcast he wants to be a lion for life. This is breaking news. That's the only reason why I'm saying it long term is not three years, people, that's that five to seven year range. I'm thinking it's gonna be like five or six. I don't think it'd be seven, but bye, I'm happy with that, even at the twenty five million. With the way they can stretch that contract out, it's a good I love it. Okay, breaking
here, So guys, it's been a great show. Any any other comments anybody wants to come up with point out? Nope, Well then we're gonna go around the road. How they can get hold of you and how they can see you see your shows, how they can Dwayne Keaton says eleven years, twenty five to twenty eight million. Well, the rumored amount was twenty five million, and am Hanrau already said that's perfect to him on his podcast,
So I think it's gonna stay right there. I think it was just a matter of the years because the rumored contract was three years, twenty five million a year, not including signing bonus or guaranteed money. So I think we're going to be looking at that five to six years. That's where I'm thinking it is okay, mister, let's just start with our guests, Dan, how can people get a hold of you? How can they subscribe to
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