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is. Here, I am. We have a great show line up tonight. Welcome JT. Thank you guys, Pleasure to be on, pleasure to have you, and welcome back George, good to be on. Fire up. Let's hey, let's have a great show tonight. Everyone good, good, good, and thanks for coming back. Ralph, You're welcome, Thank you, Candy, thank you guys, and last but not least, smoking Jeremy. Be good evening, everybody. Let's talk a little sports. I love fire up. Yeah, let's all get fired up and let's talk.
So our first topic of the night, one that's near and dear to my heart, although maybe not anymore, is the manager's bar was set pretty high. This week. There was some shocking news that came out of Chicago on Monday. They fired their coach and they took free agent Craig Council away from
the Milwaukee Brewers. They dug deep into their pocketbooks, although their pocketbooks are much deeper because we have owners that are billionaires as opposed the Ricketts, as opposed to Marcansnazio, who's only a millionaire, and we're gonna give Craig Council a forty million dollar contract for five years. Kudos to Craig forgetting that. I have to admit, and the next highest paid coach in MLB is four million, and then there's there's about there's five or six of them. There
are between that three and four million mark. Nobody else comes close. So Craig Council's setting the bar high. That is what he said all along. I will admit, as much as I am sad to see him go, he said, I'm not going to take a hometown discount because he is from the Milwaukee area and I want managers to get paid more. So he set out to do what he, you know, did. Kudos because let's face it, we're all reminded that even though we as fans or news or media
look at it as we're spectators here, this is a business. And I was reminded of that on Monday when Craig Counsel took that. So I'd like to get everybody else's opinion, JT. I've always been a big fan of Craig Council. Actually, I'm a big fan of David Ross. I am. I would love to see the Pirates try to sweep up David Ross, take him instead of Derek Shelton. I think Counsels at a great job,
great job over the years in Milwaukee. He's always kept Milwaukee competitive. You know, they have a decent payroll, but not the highest in the league, so he was he was getting it done with, you know, a little bit above average players. He worked his pitching staff well. I go back to the days he played baseball as well as an astro, and he's just a hard working He's just that kind of guy you'd like to have on your on your side. He's a he's a plugger, does what he has
to do to win. I think the Cubs are on a they're starting to get the rebuild go, and they had a decent year last year. That coming back from a couple of really bat down years, I think Counsel is a great fit for them. Money anymore, eight billion dollars is a lot, but anymore, I mean, is it really that big a deal in baseball with the way the money gets thrown around. So I think I think the Cubs did well. I don't think David Ross will be out there too
long. George, I was a bit surprised. I mean, the biggest surprise to me was, you know, staying with it the division. But not only that, but you guys are you know, rivals obviously geographic rivals, the Cubs and the Brewers. Craig did a really good job. Obviously
the World Series championship was elusive and couldn't deliver on that. That being said, I'm familiar with these kind of moves because the Detroit Tigers back in the day had a steady manager, a nice guy who was respected named Less Moss, but lurking in the background and available was a guy named Sparky Anderson. So the Tigers had a gutsy move to make, and they ended up firing Moss and hiring Sparky, And you guys know, the rest of the story.
He delivered a World championship to Detroit nineteen eighty four. I am very happy and pleased that the managers are setting the bar higher. Like you said, Candy, this is something that has to be done. This is something that lags behind. The Tigers went out and got aj Hinch when a lot of teams didn't want to talk to him. And I believe he's still a good hire for the Troit. They made steady progress this year. But Craig going to the Cubs, I think this is a tremendous move for him in
his career. This is one of the one of the prime opportunities, be the best opportunity obviously for him to cash in and make as much money as he can from a standpoint of managing in the big league. So I'm sorry about leaving Milwaukee, but I am happy that he has set the bar higher,
like you said, for managers. Now, okay, Ralph, your take, Well, I'm glad that the Cubs uh got counsel and like George says, you know, you got to set the bar high for managers, and uh, you know, it's it's it's an interesting situation here with this and we're going to find out who's going to be uh Gea or the manager of Milwaukee. That's going to be an interesting scenario right there. I'd be interested to find out who that's going to be. But going back to the
Cubs, they fired days Ross wasn't doing too bad. Joe mad got fired. They've They've fired a few good managers over the years. The Cubs have. I know, they won a World Series. Everybody should that should be why you're in the game. That's for a World Series. And I agree with j T. They probably should have should have hired uh you know Ross instead of Derek Sheldon. And I do agree with JT on that one. But Sports Craig Counsel gots goold hire Cubs should do well. We'll see where
they go. Jeremy, I'm less disappointed in the fact that Counsel went to the Cubs. I'm more disappointed in the Cubs organization because the Fort Waying TinCaps, which is the Cubs single A affiliate, has won that division four times in the last ten years under the tutelage of Ryan Sandberg. Why hasn't he been called up to the pros by now? All he does is get these
guys ready and advances into the pros. It's a te travesty that a Hall of Famer like him, in a proven coaching commodity at a lower level hasn't been moved up at all. Good point, good point. One of the points when I was doing research on here about this topic, and I was looking, I'm like, Okay, Craig Council eight million, Dave Roberts three point twenty five. But then I went to some of the other sports and just give you an idea, Nick Saban college football nine point one million,
Ed Ordron eight point seven, Dabo Sweeney eight point three. You go to the NFL, Bill Belichick twenty million, Sean Payton eighteen million, Pete Carroll fifteen million. Then you can go to college basketball Bill self Kansas thirteen million, John Caliperi eight point five million, and Tom Izzo six point two million. Just to give you a rough estimate of kind of some of the other big salaries for coaches or managers out there. Well, in Candy, you
got to also remember Mel Tucker who was let go by Michigan State. He had that unbelievable contract, and you know Mel Farr Junior came up with a good point, guys, he says, you know what, that lost stings. It stings because mel Tucker also had set the bar high, especially for African American coaches, and to see what happened to him is sad, not only from a personal standpoint in his career, but also because he had set
that standard high like a council has done now. But you know, Michigan State giving him all that money, and obviously nobody expected to have happened when happened. But we can't forget that huge contract too that mel Tucker got. You're right, You're right. I mean, one of the things in Council's defense is he said that he needed and it was time for a new challenge
in his professional career, and that's I know why he went. And he didn't want to go too far from home, because let's face it, Chicago and Milwaukee are not that far our hour and a half depending on where you're living. So he didn't want to be too far from his from his family. He has a son that plays in Michigan, and he has a son that plays in Minnesota, so staying pretty close and with his Midwestern ties, staying in the Midwest are many Milwaukee fans happy about this. You know,
we have both sides of the fence. You have ones that are very torn and very upset because he went to a division rival. But then you have some that say he was never able to get us to the World Series. We could never get off that hump and get the playoff wins. So whichever side of the fence you are, you have to be happy for him as a coach or as a manager because he did what he thought was in best interest for him and his family. And this is a business, after all,
and that is his job. So well, you know, some candy jim Ma Leland spent Jim Leland spent many year with the Pirates, didn't get it, didn't get a champ. I didn't get a chance to go to World Series. Moved on to the Marlins, got a World Series, went to Detroit, got a World Series. And you know, so you know, Craig Council by moving on could get a World Series here and we'll see
he could. I do have something to add to it. Really stings for the Brewers because they lost Mark Canna to the Tigers to this offseason there and there are some pictures we might lose we might lose a lot more, be a lot of movement. It's meetings right now. Yeah, you're right, You're right. What I find interesting is is I think what this will do is this will set a division between the big owners that have the big money and then the smaller markets that can't, that don't have the owners that have
as deep a pockets. And I think it'll be interesting because I was talking about this on The Chicks Show as it like, you can look at the NFL and we all know the Green Bay Packers is my team and we've been really good with good quarterbacks for how long? But but who do we have as an owner? They're not billionaires, they're the fans. So do they make the moves as quickly as some of these billionaire owners who get upset with
managers that aren't doing as well and having the success. So I think this will just be interesting how this keeps going in the industry where you have these billionaires that may have as much money and then you have the smaller markets that don't have quite the same money. How much of a division will there be or will it just be Let's face it, you got to be lucky too sometimes to get where you are. Look at Arizona Arizona this year. Yes, they didn't make it all the way you know, yeah, oh you're
talking about the Cardinals. I was like, what, no, yeah, tear me. Cardinals have a little bit of a tough time this year with Johnathan gain And as our coach. So that that supposedly the fire up speech he gave prior to the season, I think I got an aneurysm trying to decipher it to see if it was actually supposed to motivate him or demotivate that team. It was bad. Yeah, he looks like Murph from The Impractical Jokers. That's why I can't. I can't look at the guys. I
like catch at that's a good one. That is so, since we kind of we're gonna switch down from MLB and let's switch over to NFL, let's talk about the Rams and Carson Wentz finds himself another new home. Let's talk Let's talk about Carson Wentz. The biggest question mark that I have is how long will Stafford be out with that broken thumb on his throwing hand, because that is why they had to do it, because, let's face it, Brett Ripion, it looked like Justin Fields versus the Packers, he was awful.
I'm not trying to be mean to Justin Fields, but you only put up three points with that offense. With Puka Nical playing and Cooper Cup playing, they had two catches each for under fifty yards each. That's a travesty to have that type of talent in the wide receiver room and get that lower production. Think about it. Even as bad as the Lions played versus the Ravens, they had more offensive production than that. I agree, ralph Uh, you know what, Carson Wentz going to the Rams. We're gonna see
what happens with that. That's gonna be an interesting scenario. Their question is can he resurrect himself? I mean, he's been He was with two teams and didn't do well with either one of them or I'm sorry, three Tiss' fourth team. I'm sorry was with Philly, you know, so you know
we're gonna find out. I mean, is Carson Wentz gonna be one of these kind of guys that just goes everywhere around the whole entire NFL and they ended up playing for what ten teams before he finally makes something out of himself. It's gonna be pretty sad to see that. They call him journeyman, and I hope he doesn't become a severe journeyman. But it can't hurt the Rams to have at least a quarterback with some kind of experience that can really
come in and play. And Carson Wentz right now is what they have. And he was available, so they scooped him up, which was great, good, I mean good for them. Question is how good can he play with that offense there? We'll see, George, Well, the Rams have dug themselves such a big hole. Let's just be honest here. Yes, I mean, you know, and Matthew Stafford is playing hurt. He has
had different injuries. I know going back to last season. He's a tough competitor, are me and I know watching him perform here in Detroit for all those years as a Detroit Lion. This guy he is still a tremendous quarterback. But you're right, I mean, we have no idea. This is like a wild card. And Ralph, like you said, you know, journeyman quarterbacks they seem to bounce around and bounce around there. They're always they're
always in demand. Obviously in emergency situations. But but to succeed as an emergency or backup whatever you want to call him is always a tough is a tough not to crack. And you know, the Rams are obviously desperate right now. I mean, you know, if they even have any faint hopes of trying to get a wild card, I mean, they got to start winning. And it's a tough situation, especially you know how far they followed
since the Super Bowl is really sad. But I'm enough, you know, I'm smart enough to know, and the Detroit Lions are smart enough to know that the that the Lions looked really good in that trade. Obviously, I mean, you never wish bad luck on anybody, but I'll tell you what, you know, Carson Wentz is going to have his work cut out for him. There's such a lot there's a lot of problems over there, both
offensively and defensively. And Jeremy, you're right. I mean, you got guys back in the lineup and you still can't complete more than a couple of passes to each one of them, and it really it just doesn't look good there. But again, let's give Carson a bed for the doubt. Let's see what he can do, what he's got left in the tank. As the saying goes JT your take. My take is Carson Wentz in twenty twenty one, which is just two years ago, through twenty seven touchdowns with seven
interceptions for the Colts. If you look over his numbers in his career, he's only really had two or three seasons where his interceptions were close to his touchdown numbers. Do I think it is a good move. I think the Rams are three and six for a reason. I think their defense is getting order. I even think Aaron Donald's not the Aaron Donald you know we're accustomed to. They're getting order on defense. The offense, I think I can't
see Carson Wentz being that type of quarterback that can. They need a quick a guy with a quick release because you're gonna be throwing a lot of short passes. I mean, that's what Cooper, Cupp and the Coop are. They're like the old school Patriots kind of offense where they run five six yard routes, catch the ball and just just destroy you the whole way down the field like that. I don't know if Wentz is that type of quarterback.
He's a little bit more methodical. It's a little bit slower. I can't see him getting the release out as quick as like Matthew Stafford learned to do when he came over. Let's face it to the Lions did win that trade, but the Rams got what they wanted in that trade. They won a Super Bowl, so I think it worked out both ways. I think the Rams are gonna be a team that picks in the top five next year. It may be time for them to look for the new quarterback in the future.
Yeah, the mistake guys that the Rams made over the many years, like George says, they got egg in their face because what happened was they didn't even have a draft. I mean, Sean McVay went with free agents for what two maybe three years, finally had a draft this last draft. I mean at least one or two picks before that. But still I don't think he's even had a full draft. So when you can't draft and you don't have anything to look forward to behind you in depth or anything, forget
it. Yes, the one thing I will say is we have talked numerous times on different shows about how important the preseason is so you have time to gel and to work with your receivers and get up. So Carson Wentz coming in now it's a tall order because he hasn't worked with that offensive line, he hasn't worked with these coaches, he hasn't worked in this scheme, he hasn't worked with the wide receivers. And we all talk about how people need
to gel and they need to be able to. Unless you're an elite quarterback, I think you need time to gel. And a lot of us have learned the hard way with some of our teams that it takes time. You know, even like Jared Goff his first year with you guys, it wasn't lights out. He's progressing nicely and getting better and the team is playing better and they're surrounding him with better players. I also think, especially an old kind of an older quarterback like Carson who doesn't move around a lot, he
has to have a really good offensive line. And if the offensive line isn't giving you time, it doesn't matter who unless, like I said, unless you're an elite and you can run around and get around a lot, you're gonna have problems. So I think as much as I like to see him succeed, and I think he'll do. Okay, he's gonna have a tough time. I think personally. Let's not forget too his his personality might not
be a good match with this team. He's had some problems in the locker rooms in the past with Philly. When he left Washington, a couple of the players bashed him right away, So I mean he might not be if they start to If he comes in here and they start to really lose, he might just it might just blow up and it just might be a total free for all for the rest of the season as well. Yeah, good point. I'll say it again. Where there's two teams that should have signed
a free agent quarterback and Carson Wentz wasn't the one. It was either the Gets or the Rams, and it should have been Colt McCoy. Yeah, he's stuck down in Arizona. I think or that he could go. He's a free agent right now. He got cut this offseason. Yeah, he's speaking of Arizona. What the hell are they doing trading Josh Jobs and leaving it to be Kyler Murray as a starter when Modern Warfare just got released. He won't open the playbook with a new coach, But Candy's right though,
by somebody like Carson Wentz's gonna have some time to understand your players. But Josh Dobbs went into Minnesota and he managed to have a win, and he said he didn't know the players' names, didn't know anybody from a canap paignt and you know, yeah, exactly. Well. He is a smart guy. He's got several engineering degrees. We just talked about him on a previous show, Pundit's Fundent, and we were talking about how he graduated from Tennessee
with an aeronautical aerospace engineering degree perfect grades. So he is he is really brilliant. Sorry, one of my guests that I've had on from another podcast, he calls them the past or not. Oh that's pretty good. No, that's good. Astronaut pass because he's a QB that has an astronaut and he was drafted in what twenty seventeen. He's been around what eight different teams? I think we were talking about what a story, what a story in
and he's had he's had positive moments. Everybody's went even in Pittsburgh, there was a game or two where he uh, he came in and did what he had to do when when Ben went down for a quarter or something. So I I like the guy. I think, I actually think that he he could be Minnesota could be a team that that's that gets into the playoffs with the receivers they got, especially with with Jefferson coming back. I don't
think they're gonna lose a lot on They're not gonna lose. They're gonna lose something from Dobbs to Cousins, of course, but I think that dogs could could hold a ship and they can win some games. Yeah, he looked good this first game. I he's looked good everywhere he's played, other than a few times, like JT said, he played in Pittsburgh even he was okay. I mean, I just wish that, you know, he could have done more here in Pittsburgh. But you know, he won't hurt you.
He won't hurt you. He's no, he's better than Trent Thof. I'm going to compare him to Trent Dolfer. But he's a guy that won't turn the bowl. He won't make stupid plays, so will at least keep you in the game. And they got a decent run game there with Madison. He's starting to come along and I actually I I sort of like the
Vikings. I think the Lions are a team in a division by far, but I think the Vikings do have a chance to sneak in the NFC because I think a lot of the teams, like the Rams and the teams in the NFC westron as good as we thought they would be. All right, let's get back to the subjects here. Standy okay, okay, okay. How long do we think Stefford's going to be out if they're bringing somebody in, it's a minimum of four weeks, yeah, at least four at least
four. I mean that's obviously you can't throw the ball. I mean you've got a finger that's broken or fractured. Yeah, and you're throwing hand, you're going to be it's gonna take some it's gonna take some time, yeah, you know. And they tried to downplay that injury last week. Remember up until Friday, Oh, he's been limited in practice and still throwing the ball. He might play. You know. That was to keep Vegas from swaying the numbers the other way. They wanted everybody to bet on the Rams.
I don't know. I think it's going to be a long time like Jeremy said that, you know, and and and JT. You know, Candy, I think that he you know, he obviously loves to get back in there. I mean we know that from Detroit days. He does not. He is not happy not being a starter, being out of the field. But you still gotta let things heal. Look at what was that twenty
nineteen when he had this micro fracture of his back. You put him in the season ending ir and he still got even though he wasn't able to play. He was dressed on the sidelines the last three games. He was like, it was like, come on, let's be an emergency activation because somebody gets hurt something. Yeah, okay, let's shift focus to Marvis Bryants, your suspension now back with the Cowboys. Let's start with Ralph. Let's start with you. Oh my, he's back. Uh. I can't wait to
see this. And interesting thing is with the perfect team, the Dallas Cowboys. Let him stay down there, you know, but uh, we'll see, We'll see what happens with him. We'll see how far he goes well, how far he stretches it before he gets in trouble get or something to that effect. Okay, George, your take on Mars Bryant, Well, yeah, I mean, you know, if he can keep his house in order. Obviously that was a huge loss, losing to the Egos the other
day, and Dallas is now sitting at five and three. And you know, one person doesn't make a team. We all know that, and obviously they need some they need some help. The Cowboys just they're just not They're sputtering. They play good one game, next game, So so you know, I think he can help them, I really do. Now can he Can he turn the team around to go on a long winning streak. I
find that unlikely, but you never know. But I mean the fact that he's coming back in is in a time when they really need help, I think should do should bode well. But let's take a look, let's take a wait and see on that. But I think it should help the team, the Cowboys. JT. I think we should start a reality show and have Martavis Bryant and Josh Gordon just sit in the room for for as long as they can until one of the two get in trouble. Because it's it's
getting it's getting old. It's heat has played in the XFO. He played eight games and he only had he put up fourteen catches for one hundred and fifty four yards, didn't score a touchdown that was in the XFO. I don't think he adds much if he didn't go to Dallas, he had to go to ve Las Vegas, because there are only two teams that every year just keep signing these players and and and try to try to make right out of them. But I think the guys, the guys past his prime.
Of course, I think he's I mean, if he can add anything, was gonna be a fourth or a fifth receiver, and you always got to worry about the attitude. I think this is just a it's a bonehead play a lot. There's a lot of different free agent wide receivers out there that could have come in, or he could grab somebody off someone's practice squad. Jeremy, he's thirty one years old. Let's look at it this way. Josh Gordon, even though he missed two and a half seasons due to his
suspensions, he at least still had wheels. He just didn't have hands anymore because he didn't get to practice his craft. We're talking about guy that has a played in five years. Two of those years were sixteen game team game seasons, which is thirty two games right there. Three of them were seventeen game seasons, which is another ninety one. He hasn't played in one hundred and thirty three games. His hands are gonna be like Will Harris's. I
just I just think there's enough players. I was watching the Bears game tonight and Carolina just signed somebody off of a practice squad and he had a thirty yard catch. There's there's enough players out there that Dallas could have if they needed depth, they could have got somebody with less baggage on that one. It's Dallas in Las Vegas's way, though. They just love love giving these guys extra chances. Kind of reminds you when Russell Wilson had his last year
in Seattle and they signed Josh Gordon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Mm hmm. Well, I guess I'm in a minority here, Candy. I'm the only one that's welcoming the guy back. But that's why I was laughing to George. Yeah, I mean, if he comes back and puts up numbers, good for him. I just saw him.
If he gets three catches for thirty yards a game. It's a win for him, definitely, because he's going to be the wide receiver four or five on that depth chart that superseding CD Lamb, that's for sure, or Michael Gallup h bolks. Did they even say how much they they they're paying him? I mean they probably got him. No, I actually didn't. They paid him good. I couldn't believe it. They gave him five years and like thirty eight million with some of it guaranteed. Wow, wow, Ryan
gave They gave him thirty eight million and a five year contract. Are you sure about that? He's thirty one years old. That's insane. I know, I know, but he's had no no mileage since he was twenty six. I guess that's what they're banking on. Yeah, that's true, that's true. Wow, that's crazy. Looking to eat he just said thet didn't eat it. I mean, that's too much for him, you know. Actually he just got he got a one year two hundred and eighty nine thous
somebody said. Somebody said he's probably making league. Yeah, he got one year to eighty nine. Just looked it up. Yeah, good, he got the league the same, Thank god, because I thought they gave him that kind of money man. They posted he got a bag, you know, and they were throwing out all these crazy years and numbers, and I was like, who is he? Oh? I know, oh, I know him for his legal substances. Yeah, he showed, he showed some. He showed his true skill his rookie year of Pittsburgh. I he had.
He was a receiver. We went through that whole stretch of receivers like Mike Wallace him. We just and I think we're getting that now with George Pickens again. We're gonna go through that diva receiver that's just gonna run himself out of time, which is getting getting old in Pittsburgh. But it's yeah, JT smoking, Jim and I agree on the same thing that he won't after his rookie contract. I don't think he'll be a Steeler. No, No, he's just they've they've been burned too many times by this. They
can't do it anymore. Yes, Okay, Well, this weekend I have to say there is a football game where my team goes after mister Ralph Williams team jto Tooburgh. Guys, here, wait a minute, you've got NFC North heated rivals and then the team you're playing against, you're out number four to one. Yes, in more ways than one female the male too. I wasn't even going there. I was trying to be nice and that's okay. It is what it is. So George, what's your take on Packers
at Steelers? Oh? My, oh my. I think that's going to be a good game. I really do. I'm looking for Pittsburgh to win, though. I think that they're they're playing a little bit better ball right now, and obviously both teams have had their share of losses, but I would definitely put some house money on Pittsburgh. Yeah, okay. As a coach, I love Tomlin. I know sometimes Ralph the city doesn't like him anymore, but he's done a good job. It's going to be a good
game, though. I mean, you know, God, that's too well, too historic franchise, there's no question about it. Steelers and Packers. Oh yeah, Jeremy, your take, Well, the one thing that the Packers do well, the Steelers are not doing well on the other side of the ball with it, and that is passing defense. Right now, the Packers have the eighth passing defense and the Steelers are nowhere near eight than the NFL in passing, So I don't see the passing game beating them. But
where they can get beat is their bottom ten still at rushing defense. Yes, they had a great performance against the Rams, but ever since they traded away Cam Akers, the Rams don't run the ball anyways, So that's a whole nother story. And that's one thing. The Steelers defense is good at that D line, and those front four linebackers are very good at getting after running backs. And then of course you got TJ. What and you got Cam on the line, and those guys are beese and you guys got line
issues. So I think it's a race to seven. I think it's a low scoring game because neither offense is higher pipe Olton, So I think it's a race of seventeen and I got the Pittsburgh Steelers winning seventeen to ten. Okay, mister Ralph, Okay, thank you Candy. I think that every win this year, and I think JT agree with me that the Steelers are going to have is going to be a dog fight, because that's the way it's been all season. I don't see the Steelers winning by a big by
a big chunk. They haven't yet this year, and we got to see what fourth quarter Kenny's going to do. And so what I'm thinking is I'm looking at, yeah, twenty to ten, maybe twenty to thirteen, something like that. That's what I'm looking at. Winning Steelers. Oh, but you said they don't win big. That's why I stuck with mine. They don't win big, but they win. And I've said this many times about the Steelers. It's better to be lucky than good, because they're not good,
but they're lucky. So you know, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. JG. I think it's both hit on the head and talked about the offensive line for green Bay being a little bit rough, and you got T. J. Watt, Cam Hayward and you got high Smith that are gonna put put up some put up some pressure all day long. I think Jordan Love is going to be a little rattled. But the one thing
about Pittsburgh is and Ralph you know this as well. If the Steelers, if the Steelers are supposed to win, they don't always beat the teams they should beat. I mean, we got destroyed by we got destroyed by sections. Each year. We always seem to lose to the Jets or the Raiders. We always lose games that we shouldn't, but it's a home game. I think that's gonna help us out. I think that I think twenty four to twenty. I think that you know the I think Pickett. I think
pickets starting to come around a little bit. I think that I wish we had friar Mouth. I think once we get friar Mouth back off full bit more comfortable with our offense. But I think twenty four to twenty. I can't give the Steelers more than a seven point win, so I'm going to go four. I think it comes down to how healthy Aaron Jones is, because I honestly think if Aaron Jones is healthy, because he's right now he's
listed as questionable. He's had this hamstring issue. I think if he gets past that, I think we have more of a chance because that allows us to open up the game and allows well, let me say this, I hope not only is he healthy, but I hope we actually use him as we used to use him, because I think in the games that we've had
him in, we have not used him to his potential. I think we haven't been healthy for most of the year we've been without Christian Watson or Aaron Jones or both, and I think if we have both of them in there, that it'll be a little bit different of a game. I think it's gonna be a tough game. I think it's going to be a battle.
I do think that they had a good win. Whether I understand all of you talking about how bad the Rams are and everything like that, but I think for confidence wise, for Jordan Love and everything like that, that they needed that and I think that might help repel them. I think it'll be a close game. It is tough because it is in Pittsburgh, so I think that typically would figure you, guys, I think it's gonna be a
close game. But I got to go with my hometown team, and I'm gonna say twenty seventeen Packers because the Packers have been playing really well in the fourth quarter, and I think that's when it might come down to if it's a tight game between the two teams, that it's the team that has the ball last, and maybe it'll be the Packers. That's Kenny Pikett's best quarter as well, though, so just to let you know that is his quarter
Kenny. His first two quarters, he's basically non existent. So I wouldn't bet the game. I wouldn't be soft of the game. Six gun in the halftime, I think it's gonna be a lot Shortan Loves kind of the same quarterback. First and second quarter, he does nothing, and then he starts gradually getting better from the third quarter on. That's exactly right, exactly Kenny Pick. But if he gets rattled as we've seen and Candy, I hate to bring up beat the SD for your Packers, but you start getting
pressure in the third quarter and he crumbles. That's what I've seen. It's no knock on him. He's a he's technically it may be his fourth year in the league, but it's as a starter. He's a rookie. Yeah, he's still a rookie because he had to sit behind Aaron Rodgers, just like I feel bad for Mason Rudolph. I mean, he sat behind Roethlis and he's still was sitting behind people. All three of the quarterbacks you said their first year in the NFL with this team did not do well. Farre
stunk it up his first year with the Packers. Rogers was pitiful his first year with the Packers and Love has been had good moment and horrible moments. There is no in between with them. He doesn't have that consistency yet that's built up with time. That's usually a second or third year quarterback that gets into that fruition. Unfortunately, there's that other team that that's in the NFC North in Chicago, which that that guy. He never gets consistent from one
game to the next. That's true, and I always compare to tell people in Pittsburgh that get on Kenny Pickett, and I understand why they're getting on them. But if you look at Kenny Pickett's first twenty five thirty games in the NFL and compare it to Trevor Lawrence, they're they're basically almost spitting image stats to be better. I know Trevor Lawrence is much higher of a ceiling, but that's just goes to show you that takes quarterbacks time in this league.
I mean there's not every quarterback does, but c J. Strouts doing this year. You're seeing the opposite with Bryce Young. You're just seeing some quarterbacks get it right away. I mean brought Party got it right away, which was crazy, but he got it. And quarterbacks don't get it. It takes some year to get it. I think it's it also depends on the surrounding cast and the wide receivers. I mean, Christian, I'm sorry, but if you put Christian McCaffrey with Jordan Love, and I think Jordan
Love would be a different person. I think. I think that makes it. That's why I brought Party was so successful Candy because he has a good supporting cast, and that's exactly what you need. An NFL speed. The college speed of the game is a whole different animal. And you know when you're in the NFL, the speed of the game is way different. You have to really get into the flow of the speed of the game. It's a big change, right, yes, from the college game, no question
is. And I think going up against like I keep I know, I keep harping on this, but Bay is one of the youngest teams in the league, and they're wide receivers. I mean there may be what second year at best, and we don't have the veterans because a lot of the veterans went with mister Rogers over to the Jets or they left us. So I think that matters too, because I think when the defenses have been in sync for how long they're going to come after, and they know what to come
after. I think more so than you know, a veteran wide receiver when he sees his quarterback in trouble, he knows what to do come back to. You know, they make adjustments. Yes, they make more adjustments on the playing field. And I think some of these young quarterbacks aren't doing that or don't even have I don't want to say they're not smart enough to, but they just they're not in sync with their receivers to do that. And
I think that's coming out loud and clear. Yeah, that's true. I think the best thing a young quarterback in the NFL has is a good tight end. I firmly believe it. I think I think Kittle Kittle did a lot for Party last year. I think Evan Ingram and Jacksonville is putting up nice numbers with Trevor Lawrence. I think you need that like safety blanket, and I think that Pickett don't have that right now with with Friar. I know Green Bay did a good job. I like I like Musgrave, I
like the tight end. Yeah, what about Detroit with Golf and Laporta that's another one. I mean, you need that. You need a good in today's day in Ames. You need a tight end that's gonna be your your safety under under ever in the middle, that you can throw to. And and I think that once Green Bay gets echoing and it don't, let's not let's not lie. I mean, the last four years, the joke of every NFL draft was green Day never taken a wide receiver, and it's sort
of catch it caught up to you. I mean it did you know? But I mean I like Watson. I think that, you know, I think it's gonna be it's gonna be different going forward. I think the mindset was tit Aaron Rodgers, give him, give him a Randall Cob, he'll do good. And he did and they did. But I mean, I think now with a younger quarterback, I think you'll you'll start to build a better receiving core for him. It just takes time. I think, yep,
I agree. Anybody want to do a parting shot, Jeremy. I said it here last year around Thanksgiving or no, I mean just after the draft when we did our little draft review and I talked about our udfas and
who was my first UDFA profile this season. Trevor Nawawski, the GLEEAC Defensive Player of the Year in Division two college football right in Saginaw Valley State, a graduate of West Campton High School just outside of Detroit, gets called up to the active roster to roster to the team he followed his entire childhood. I think it's great for him. He's got size, he's got speed. He can cover the tight end, which is something our linebackers have been struggling
with. So you may see him in some passing downs. But more importantly, with Cabinda being out and not being able to play full back in special teams and Rodrigo just being transferred to that position of full back while Cabinda's hurt, it makes sense to use him more in special teams, where he showed out in the in the preseason in Week two and Week three. Ralph, do you have a parting shot? Yeah? I do. All I want to say is good luck to more Tavius Bryant. We'll see where he goes,
We'll see what he does, and that's all I can say. I mean, you know, but I do have one thing, hope he stays away from that stuff. That's it, George, you have a parting shot. My parting shot is Welcome to Detroit. The Tigers announced today that the Chicago White Sox announcer Jason Bennetti is moving to Motown. He's going to do at the minimum of one hundred and twenty seven games play by play voice of
the Detroit Tigers. This man is an incredible story, battling cerebral palsy all these years, living a dream of being a broadcaster and then obviously a play by play man in Major League Baseball. He's certainly one of the top voices in sports. And the Tigers made a great decision today bringing a veteran broadcaster and to succeed Matt Shepherd on their television side. Jason is a wonderful story and like I said, he's got some great He's got a great voice,
and he knows baseball. He loves baseball. He's been obviously a lifelong follower of the White Sox. But get ready, Tigers, because you got a good one. I'm glad they hired them. Welcome to Detroit. There you go, j T. Do you have a parting shot tonight? First off, I want to say thank you guys, for letting me join the day was awesome tonight, and I'm gonna stick with Detroit, but I'm gonna go with Michigan. Michigan ran for four hundred and eighteen yards last year against Penn
State and Penn State. They're going up against the same two running backs and against maybe a better offensive line this year with Michigan. So look for Michigan to run for about three hundred, three hundred and fifty yards and McCarthy to throw all day, and look for Michigan to cement their cement undefeated record with a big win this weekend against Penn State. It's funny you bring up Michigan because the report came out that the NCLA Double A is gonna do nothing but
hit him with a fine for the sign sealing stuff. Why their independent their independent investigators found out that Rutgers, Ohio State, Michigan State, Indiana, and I think wake for no, I'm talking about just in the Big ten and per don't all re sealing stealing signs from Michigan and then put it out make it even worse. Ohio State at Rutgers sold the signs they stole to per Don't for the Big championship and produce still that couldn't win knowing what the
signs were for. Shame, shame, shame. That's breaking news from Jeremy. I love it. Well, you know what, Jeremy, thank you because guess what, I just got something from my bum show tomorrow, My external bum show in the morning with Shay t will be a part of Yeah. Scott tim Petiti from came on to Woodward, I mean, I'm the ticket the other night and said, more than likely there'll be nothing because we can't find anything more than what every other team in the Big ten does already.
So my parting shot, I don't know if any of you are or not, but my parting shot is just to say thank you to all the veterans out there. Yeah, Saturdays, and we owe them everything. Yeah, and so I just want to say thank you to anybody that is a veteran or that even has military in their family, because I do know the sacrifices that the family only goes through as well. So thank you. Good call all the veterans. Happy Veterans Day. Yeah, Happy Veterans Day.
We celebrate you that day for generation straight in my family has third in the military. Yeah. My dad served two tours in Vietnam, and my dad and my mom too nice. My dad was in Germany, my brother in law John was in Germany, and my godson Nathan was in uh Well, the Pacific region in the Navy. I have two uncles. They both were in Vietnam. And then I had a friend of mine who actually was killed in Afghanistan during the desert storm. So I do near and dear taps.
Whenever I hear taps, it's it's near and dear to my heart. So but I do. For years I worked in a VA hospital. I worked in a credit union inside the hospital. And so veterans are near and dear to my heart. They have such stories. They sacrificed everything for all of us. A roofing company today for Veterans Day, gave a veteran of free roof on his out awsome. Yeah, a roofing company here, that's great. Yeah. My grandfather was a frogman back before they had the Navy Seals.
That's what they were called. They were the frogmen. He served. He served not only in the European field of war. He came back home on leave, married my grandma and got called back out to the Pacific realm of war. Wow, he was at Normandy. He stormed the beaches. He was the one that set up the little blinking beachhead so they knew where to land the craft drop off the troops on the shores. So he was there twenty four hours before any of the troops were there, setting that up.
So he had to hide in that sand. He was actually in sicily he had You know, he was an amazing man and I loved listening to the stories growing up. But the scariest one he told me is that his day off while he was in the Pacific, he was on the battleship that was seven miles from Hiroshima and nine miles from Nagasaki. Wow, that's close. And because he was off duty that day, he was underneath so him and about three hundred guys actually lived twenty years longer than everybody else off that
boat. Oh my wow, amazing. Yeah, well, guys, this has been a good show. Normally Scott is in this seat. Scott wrote a book. It's going to be on Amazon very shortly. Here, you'll have to go out and buy it. I can't wait to get it. I can't wait for all of you to read it either actually Candy. He gave me the inspiration. I'm going to write a book, The Old Boys Gang and Radio to the Old Boys Gag. Good for you, Good for you. I'm thinking about it seriously, and I'm running for politics too.
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great announcers. We talk about Ernie Harwell, Ray Lane and Van Patrick and Bud Lynch and Bruce Martin and George Blaha and on and on and on. So you can reach me at Geikorn at yahoo dot com and also at LinkedIn under my name and on Twitter. I am at sand G Sports ninety nine and you can find me on many of these shows. Here. We had a great time tonight, guys, great being with all of you on this one. JT. How can people get a hold of you? I get
on our website www dot draft for one two. I'm the editor in chief. I uh. We have NFL prof draft profiles right now, over about one hundred and fifty of them on there. Go on here look at a players, see what we uh where we have him going in the draft right now. We keep updating it. We do NHL, we do NBA, we do MLB as well, So you can get on here look at the draft prospects. You can get a hold of me at JT at Draft four
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