Fire Escape Cast #81

Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It is Nope, no, that's it. That's what's up is episode eighty one. This is the show where we talk about video games, politics, world issues, and bodily functions. I'm Mike, here's always with Dan, Hi and Mary and married. Do it like a like a zippy straw that has all the little curves in it? Okay, I'm here as always with Dan. Mm hmmm and boom he very kitsch. That's the joy deserves. How's it going?

What's up? What are you doing? Either one of you jump in, talk about each other, each other, not being a poland with Jake Decker, our producer, what happens? My head's bad and I'm on steroids. My head's bad. I have to take steroid to not drink for a month. Who my knife is terrible? No, actually the other stuff. So I am on the gas. I'm wrote it up. Man, it's

helping with my runs. That's good, right, I bet. But it's like the thing it does for it's well, it stops inflammation, like I guess that's the whole deal with this stuff is like, because my whole fucking cavernous head is filled with inflammation, and it's supposed to like settle all that down. So now it's like I think what's happening is like I'm running like

crazy. Now I'm doing these long runs. I'm running four or five days a week, and then I'm not feeling shitty afterwards, like I'm not sore. Everything's like I'm running better. I've got better cardio than I think I've ever had. But I wonder at what costs? Like if I fall in my beamur shatters, is like blood just keep coming out and then it doesn't patch up, or like what is the side there has to be downside of these steroids. Well, I guess it's my head hurting and I getting I

can't sleep, and a whole bunch of other stuff. But downside to steroids is that you cannot stay on them forever, and so what you are doing is temporary and eventually you need to train your body to exist without them, like tapering schedule. So yes, I do have to taper down. So I know. I know because I have to do it with my dog.

Every time I have a my dog has like a severe allergic reaction. He's got to go on steroids and then we have to like wean him off and he's hyper and he's crazy and he barks at the door like a mongrel. I think you guys are probably really similar right now? Does he does? He crash too, because like I get kind of hyper and then I'll have like weird crashes, and then I'll just get like confused. Sometimes like more than usual. He like power naps and then like, yeah, walks around

like like a pit bull. He's like who wants this? Who wants some of their Then yeah, trying to start fights with gizmo and stuff. Yeah, you get confused as in like other people say something that you don't understand, or you just find yourself walking to another room in the house and then stop and we're like what is going on? Sometimes it's kind of hard to

follow stuff. But like, for instance, the other night, I was I just wanted to like drive down the road a little bit to see the northern lights when that was happening, and like, as I was driving like a three minute thing, I got like randomly confused and scared, and I was like, what the fuck is this? But like I had my wits

about me enough to where it's like this is weird. I've never had this Like I've had anxiety and stuff like that and weird times, but this was like more of a like acute, like I'm feeling fucked up all of a sudden. And again maybe your panic attacks were on steroids. Oly Like it doesn't just like boost your lungs and like your immune system, it also like makes your anxiety free. Think it's so powerful. Your anxiety is like I am unstoppable. I'm gonna fuck you up. Dan Oh that sounds real good.

That's what you want. He's like he's lifting way it's inside of there and he's like, oh, you wait to go to sleep? Camere. Anxiety is the boy. I get just a little, a little scared boy inside my head. Yet I tell all the time I gender all sorts of stuff I shouldn't. I gender negative things often masculine, but you know, like boats are usually women where they're like, what's your name? Er? I do that one hundred percent. If I love it, I'll be like,

she's amazing. It's just my instinct, weird little anxiety goblins a dude in my head. One hundred percent. I would do it with Paris and that would be it would be a lady for sure, Paris. She's great, she's incredible. Ohios, Ohio, aunt who smokes too much? And then you also don't really. She also brings like a ham over whenever she visits. Cool you just got a little freezer you had to buy because she brings too many hams. Damn it, Ohio, I don't want any more

ham She collects rosaries. She has an xbox rosary. What the fuck? I don't know. Well, yeah, well, best of luck to your head and uh, the best of luck to Jake Decker and Poland on his own. I told him, I told him to take some moody, lonesome photos and be melancholy while he's there. Oh, without me looking after him, he's gonna get in trouble. Yeah, we were talking. We were

saying, he's probably in a gutter somewhere. Yeah. Well the first well, I guess at this point anymore, I guess I shouldn't talk specifics about the thing, since I don't know if it's embargod or anything. But it was like cool stuff like to go to It was only like a day and a half on the ground, but it was like at some cool spaces and like there was some drinky stuff involved too. That. I guess even if I was able to go, I wouldn't be able to drink right now,

able to drink him? Yeah yeah, But you know what I actually I went to a brewery this last weekend. And you know, I associate social stuff with drinking always. That's how it's always been as an adult. But I was like, well, I can't hear and everyone else is probably gonna be drinking instead of brewery. And I did try like the NA stuff. They had this like orange cream soda. They had this like NA beer and stuff like that and kombucha, and I was like, fuck it, they

got this whole NA menu. I mean, what else am I gonna do to drink water? I try everything, And I was there for like hours and hours and hours, and there was like, actually, it turns out you can still just have a good time just hanging out with people tend to be drunk, but you know, it's not torture to not be. The n A industry is like at an all time high. Uh, it's a good time to you know, be sober. What have you? Let me

look at North American industry YEP. According to the report, global demand for the NA beverage market was valued that's not the same thing as profit obviously, at approximately nine oh two point one four billion in twenty twenty three, and is expected to generate revenue of around what That can't be right. Hold on a second, that's who's this guy on LinkedIn saying that who's Who's No, it's the fucking it's Google's like AI overview that so far has been inaccurate.

Every time I've looked at it, I scrolled straight past that ship every time. I don't. I mean, let me look this up. It was a lot. This makes a lot AI. Okay, this looks way more realistic because the numbers they were showing me is literally no industry makes that much except for porn. The structor's very point has already seen that she already increase by nine point nine percent for value. Okay, it's valued at one four point three billion. Jesus Christ, I mean, I get it. It's

a nice thing to like. Also like THC beverduce and stuff. I feel like if you're someone who doesn't like drinking alcohol, now it's probably a pretty great time. Like at least in Minnesota, like every brewery has like THC drinks and stuff like that, and it's you know, like a five miligram thing to sip on and that'll get to you for a few hours. You know. That's uh good options Portland before they cracked down on it, they

used to just put it in everything. They would be like, if you want to add a shot of CBD to any drink, just let us know. And then like, of course, like the government overlords came in and was like, you have to regulate this shit. You just can't put as much CBD in someone's drink as CB. I know. But they came for us, they might come for you too. I'm just telling you. Like

Portland was like the mecca of CBD where they just put that shit. Literally, like I could be like I want a burger and like put put the squirt of CBD in there and they'd be like, you got it, honey. But now it's all regulated and it has to be in a closed canister, like you have to be able to pop it. Does that make sense? They can't just squirt it into a drink, and you can't if it's a if it's like a CBD on draft, it has to be in a sealed canister. They won't they won't let you just add it. No more

here THHC like TC is fine here. I'm I'm just telling you believe that's very conservative. The man, the man, the man came in and they regulated the ship out of our drugs, which really upset me because I like to just add it to whatever. I'm like a huge advocate for CBD and THHC in liquid form as a tincture. It's like my favorite way to do drugs now, it's my struggle choice is a liquid tincture that I just add into like whatever bevy. I've also been drinking less, so I appreciate this.

I realized that I wanted to lose a little bit of weight and just kind of like check my health. I drink a lot, there's no question, and there's a lot of empty calories in a bevy. So I thought, if I if I just do less, like let's say I have it or I have the days that I'm drinking a week, that's an incredible amount of calories that I'm not having anymore. So I did start doing that, and it's been really effective for me, and I've also found that I still

have a good time. I got invited to a girls night last week and it was at a bar, but I used my scooter. I drove my scooter, and I do not drink when I'm riding my scooter because if I even get tapped, I would die. So I'm like hyper vigilant on my scooter. And so I had two mocktails at the bar. I had a great time. No one knew, not that I had to hide it, but like nobody was the wiser. I just drank like everybody else did,

and I went home super clear headed. I thought it was great. I mean, if the age were at if anybody would give you shit for like not like fuck you, like fuck you if you're eighteen in doing that, but like if a were adult ass adults, if somebody's like, ooh, it's a fuck off, I'm not hanging out with you anymore. Yeah, at that time has come and gone. Do you remember that movie Coyote Ugly? I think I worked at a movie theater when the poster was on the

wall and I was fourteen. Yes, I poster very well. Yes, I'm glad you have such a vivid memory of it. And in Coyote Ugly, there's like an iconic part where a guy at the bar orders a water and they all boo him and make him leave the bar, and they go, what do we not serve? The bar goes water and they look chastize him for ordering a water. I thought that he was ahead of its time. Oh yeah, well, I I've always been very I am against the idea of peer pressure. I don't agree with any of this. Really,

wait too early, Mary's broke? Dan is right? Wow you rip ally's voices? I hate you, Dan, that's minaughty. God. That one doesn't even make sense. I didn't like it. It just sounds funny. God, damn it. Look you just shouldn't peer pressure people. Oh my god, Mary using me all week on light club. I have been getting people. How do you know? How do you know? You send me your stupid show? Dan? It's a great heaven you on as a guess. I wasn't what. He's probably got something, I tell you right,

No last time. No, no, no, I don't know. I wouldn't do that. No, No, he uses it only to spite me. I I want you to know that I was sent multiple endangering clips of you, Dan, and I did not add them to a soundboard because time stamps better than you. I'm always responsible with this You're right. I'm not responsible with this. You are abusing it. Every second you push that button. You have to averyone agrees with me. Right, Aw Wrestlers, Evil

Uno and Adam Cole, You're probably right Dan Dan is right. Thanks guys. Oh my god, how many soundboards do you have? It's just a giant glowing table in front of me. You like the Wizard of Oz for the stupidest reason. Dan sucks and he's dumb as a butt. Disagree. I knew, I knew it. I was waiting for that oneree what Okay, I don't know his voice it was that's Manti. I knew it immediately.

He has a very distinct voice. There's a musical voice. Think about it, and I'd be like, I'm not sure, but like, there's a couple of people. Minati has like a voice I could pick out of a lineup on my worst day. I'd be like, I know exactly who that is very distinct. He sounds like Billy Crystal got kicked in the nuts. Yeah, Summer Wait what this is going? Uh? This will go up on the twentieth. We'll have one more episode before Summer Games Fest.

Yeah. I will not going. I won't be there. You guys should come. I'll be It's hard. It's not the France, which I will so like to be, yet it's that I was invited. I'm a fan to say, it just won't be the same if Mary isn't with me on my honeymoon in Paris from and so I'm considering it, but it's also really close to TwitchCon and everything I do. I really still I hate bringing this up, but everything I do I still in the back of my mind,

I'm like, what are the statistical chances that I will get COVID? And I have to think about it because I can't afford to get it before I go to Europe, And so usually a few weeks before I go, I stay home and I just make sure that I don't, you know, accidentally, you know, get myself sick. You know what I've what I've been doing recently that's not good for my health that I wanted to share with you

guys. I've been getting into smoking cigars. Oh nice. I go to cigar and I have a cigar, and I don't know anything about cigars, so I can't really tell you a lot about it. I've been going to a bar and they chop off the ends, just like in the movies, and they give me some matches, and I have a cigar and a bar. Sometimes you're with a drink and sometimes by it's lonesome. It's been great. I like, yeah, yeah, if you don't chop off the end,

you're just sucking on paper that's not letting to smoke through. I used to smoke a lot of cigars. I have so little about it. Do they have like calories? No? No, I guess you're not eating them. It's probably not good for you because it's smoke. But I mean the worst case scenario, you smoke a lot of them, you get a mouth kit. It's on steroids. You can't fight a little bit of smoke.

He's dead already. Its steroids. I could have cigars. Yeah, yeah, if anything, you kind of want to like build up your system a little bit, like come on, like let me come over and like slap you around a little bit before you go into surgery. Let me shake you once today, just to make sure that you're like, you know, you're tepid. You've like you've processed everything, and you know your body is like we gotta keep you on your toes. We want like all your white blood

cells to be like what she wanna do? Is she gonna come out? I gotta scare you and stuff like that, and then you'll never die. Just put my head in like one of those paint canshakers before my surgery. Just make sure it's all loose and ready to go. Like, uh, yes, you won't shut up about Corky Romano. He's been bringing up. Oh, just like Casablanco when Rick gets his head in the Shaker Classic.

Oh sorry, I did watch like doctor Oh sorry, I didn't watch Fritz Lang Silent Classic Metropolis before we recorded, and I can only references Corky Romano. I'm a film major. I have more important things to with my time. I watched it is the new Copola trailer that Megalopolis. Yes it looks weird. Apparently it was a I mean, like any movie he's ever made. Apparently it was just an absolute nightmare to make. Yeah, like all

the good ones wound up being like a nightmare to make. But then, like you know, Jack was probably a breeze like, so, I don't know, maybe this one's good. Speaking of which have you watched? Talking about SGF and cinematic weirdness. Have you guys watched Everybody's in La. I've seen the first episode. Yes, Yeah, it's funny. It reminds me of when everybody's in La for SGF and you guys have them on your couch. Yeah, because they're there for Sketch Week or Netflix is Netflix is a

joke Festival. Yeah. I was there the same week. I was in La last week for a thing work. I did not see any of them. Unfortunately, I've been seeing my buddy Nikki Glazer blowing up like crazy, even more than she has the last like ten years. The HBO special, She's on the Malayiy thing, the Brady Rose like, she's killing it. I mean, yeah, Brady Roast I think is the number one thing.

She absolutely murdered it with John Mulaney for the show. The show's funny, it's weird, and it's also just like about you know, John Mulaney settling in La with Olivia mun they're his kid, and wait, it's real, it's about real stuff. It's it's it's every All these comedians for Netflix as a joke like Comedy Week are in La. So he's like, oh, everybody's here, I might as well have them onto this loose kind of seventies

poor no vibe talk show, and we're gonna do a variety show. There will be some sketches, only like one one out of every five sketch was actually funny. We're gonna have every comedian a bunch of friends, and we're gonna also we're gonna do a weird theme. We're gonna have we have a weird theme for every episode about like Tie to La, like coyotes, earthquakes, palm trees, the future of La driving and it's just funny. It's like, well, this is you know, giant bomb does this with everybody's

in La, so let's bring them on our couch for a bit. But I like Collins segments like people and just called the Netflix show lives. Yeah, Marror of La called in for one, and then they had like plants that called in and impersonated like Bob Dylan. But it was pretty fun. I liked it. I didn't watch any of them live. I've missed them all. Oh yeah, will fare on the audience was funny, and then

Flee was in the last episode, but it was good. I also and the only other TV thing I'll mention because I know I talked mainly about TV. Last episode is uh. I watched one episode of Conan O'Brien Must Go. I've seen them, yeah, and I can't get the image of him

singing with the Irish tenors out of my head. Oh they're looking at the fjord salmon and the sea that they Yeah, it's when they're they're in He's singing with these famous in the bar, in the bar, but also the practice thing and they're like, all right, you know you get like sing from your diaphragm, like let it out. And he I've never heard someone like scream a song like that, and even they started laughing. It's a

it's very good. But yeah, he does very well with the remote stuff, and I'd like, I think that's a really cool way for his later career now is like podcasting and this occasional run of travel shows versus the like grind of the every night late night talk show, which is the revolving door of celebrity interviews and stuff. He seems a lot happier doing this. Yeah, it's very funny. I was losing my land my mind laughing the whole

time. Yeah, it's it was very fun very very funny show. Conan has still got it and it kind of reminds me of just I don't know. I grew up watching Conan on Late Night and I always thought he was the funniest host. And it's probably like your love of norm Dan, Like, I just really relate and associate with Conan's style of humor. It's super self deprecating. It's uh, I just really appreciate it. And there's so many times where he's in a tricky situation. You'll see this a lot like

culturally in the show. It's like are you gonna be good here? You know? Are you gonna do this right? And I love like he always finds way to completely thread the needle. In one of the ones, he was like, hey, can you tell me all of the ways that I can respect social norms so that I can ignore them? And the person answered him genuinely and honestly, and he like like listened authentically the whole time. I was just like he was making a little joke. There was one where

he's like, I heard here that you really appreciate your personal space? Do you mind if I invage a personal space? Guy's like okay, he gets his consent he's like okay, and then Conan by the end of it licks this guy's face, yeah, and he's so uncomfortable, but it's so like it's just so thoughtful and sweet and like nobody's getting hurt, nobody's getting like he's found a way to make really really funny comedy without I don't know, disrespecting a culture or a people. He's found a way to do it,

and it just he's a genius. It's never mean spirited. And he also has that just like nuclear weapon in a comedic arsenal of just like no issue

at all with looking like the biggest horses ass in the world. Like half of this travel shows him looking like the dumbest asshole from America and all these different like just being an idiot and screaming and like rolling around on the ground in a cheese shop or whatever, like he's, oh yeah, he's fucking intro from Werner Herzog is perfect, Yes, like an unspoiled landscape begging to

be filed. And it cuts to cone with like a chicken hat on going down a canal in Vietnam or wherever you dull eyes, dead dull eyes at one's interview like I feel like there was like a generation that was introduced to him, like, God, this guy's going for it. This guy, Yeah, turns out it's so funny. Yeah, this guy has always been good, but they've found a way to just really let him shine that. The self deprecation is so good. There's like this one where he's he's knitting

and crocheting with a group of women. He makes himself a little f and you're like, you're gonna need a couple more rounds of knit there, and he was like, no, I'm not. I'm very small. This is so funny. Like a whole group of women who can't really understand what he's saying, just absolutely laughing because they know he's talking about small, small conan. It's so funny. God, he's hilarious. What just probably the legendary

comedy career of like our lifetimes. Between The Simpsons, Saturday Night Live, Late Night, he had the Tonight Show, at the TVs show. Now he's got this super successful podcast, a podcast network, now this HBO show. Like he has had such a run like the entire time we've been alive. Yeah, I don't know anybody else that's done as many different things him I mean, it's all within the world of comedy, but there's a lot of writers. Writer like Bill Hayter is approaching that, but he hasn't had

a talk show. And also he's not doing podcasting like Bill. Header's also more like going for I think he's doing some more quote un quote artistic movie making these days. Yeah, and if you looked at someone like like someone like Robert Smigel, if you were to look at his like filmography, you know, his career is as impressive as Conan, but he's not as forward

facing. He showed up in a couple of halfataw movies or whatever, but like Conan has been like front and center from the moment that he was like not at all ready for it. I mean he was shoved out there by Lauren, you know, after Letterman left and he had a real rock a few years and then just turned it into one of the best comedy careers of all time. It's goddamn. It's great that. I was funny seeing mulaney do Everybody's in la because you know, he wrote for SNL, he was

on SNL. He has had several very successful stand up shows. He sold out the Hollywood Bowl recently doing stand up. But he's also I mean, he was briefly in The Bear. It was a very good episode. I think he did well. But like if he did a I feel like, if he did a talk show for how long to Conan do it? Twenty

years? Ninety three until he took over the Tonight Show in like two thousand and nine, I want to say two thousand and eight, and that last time I mean TBS, I mean fuck, we're talking like ninety three to like the twenty tens, Like, yeah, the mid mid to late twenty tens. I would say, like twenty ish something years. If Laney did a talk show for twenty years and then started doing like whatever the fuck the new podcast is twenty years from now, I think he would be on the

same a similar level. Yeah he's incredible, Yeah he's got He has this one bit and I don't even want to really spoil it because and I also will butcher it so it won't be funny. But they talk about how La I think La is hosting the twenty eight Olympics or they're in a bid to host the twenty eight Olympics, and half the show is just him. It's a like he jokes about it being a selfish bid to try to figure out what the fuck is going on with La, Like it just feels like this

big accident everywhere he goes. So he has a lot of these local experts at like the labrets, harpits, earth seismologists, palm tree experts, et cetera. Come on, and he's got one bit where it's the most John mulaney joke ever. He's like, so La trying to host the Olympics or like, you know, having La host the Olympics is like you have a friend whose house is on fire. She just found out she's terminally ill. She her like entire family just died, and to help her out, you

make her host the Olympics. And it's just like delivered of the most millennious uh, you know, like intonation. It's really good. So he does the monologue and then he does again. It's a it's more of a variety show than anything. And uh, it's very loose and weird and like dreamlike and fever trippy. It's a it's it's you should watch the rest of It's good nice. I enjoyed it. I like comedy. It's all right, it's pretty good. I like comedy and pizza and the office, traveling and

traveling. Who's this? It's just like every person's bio on dating apps back when I was oh sure sarcasm fluent in sarcasm. I can only be tamed with tequila. I love the office and pizza. Here's me doing a yoga pos on Machu pichu. Yeah, I get all friends references. Yes. Meanwhile, my profile is just like I'll suck your butt for money. That's not what it's do. Dogs and dicks. Yeah, we officially we fish dogs and Dixon cats. We fish officially finished booking everything for France. We're

done. Oh nice set, it's gonna be great. So you bought a bunch of special wine holders for your luggage. Oh the yeah, the protective bubble wrap packages for sending them back. We're bringing that check to the big the third big checked away bag for like checking a whole bag for wine. Well, so we're there for two weeks in France, so we're bringing we're each bringing our own suitcase and like smaller underseat carry on, and then we

got a bigger suitcase for extra like shoes and just incidentals. And then on the way back, Yeah, we're gonna pack it with wine as much as we can because like, drink it all on drink it all on the plane. Well, I mean, I'm sure we'll get a bunch of bottles and bring them back to these airbnbs and hotels, et cetera. But when you get them certain producers that we're going to be going to and the whole trip isn't a wine just a wine trip, but that's a focus of it.

But some of these producers either don't export to America or they're hard to find this specific bottle or vintage of But it's also generally cheaper straight from the source. So we're going to send back some pretty some bottles from We're going to Chateau Fijiac for people who are into Bordeaux. If you need if you need tips for there, you got my dad's tell me which vintage is your favorite.

I'll look for that and then I'll try to get you a bottle because I know you well, I don't want it to sell out, So talk to my dad. Just text him on the side. I'll help you out. Yeah, I'll try get me a cigar falling out, get me a Frons cigar. We are way closer to good cigars here than France's. I want what can you get me in France? Get me something in France that for something from France first, Dan, give me something more expensive than what

you get Dan. Will be in Pace and then Bordeaux, and then we're going across the Lais Valley and we're gonna be in a lot of good cheese spots. Do they have any like exclusive like easy cheese flavors there that we can't get here? I don't know. I could check, you know what, I would love French easy cheese. Yeah? Good, you shoot it out instead of just like a stream of goo, it's an actual full like Brie block of bris out of this block form. Yeah, France is crazy.

Yeah, they're crazy over there. That's what I've always heard. Oh man, a travel show like Conan travel show where it's just Mike and my dad going to France on like a wine trip would be amazing. He leaves every wine bar shouting I'm from the dirt, and then he trips into river parts of some parts of France that will be in I'm sure there's some locals that would get along with Paul absolutely mm, Like, well, I don't know, they're They're probably like they probably see Kansas as this uh you know,

this exotic locate. I'm joking. Exotics the word I would use for cancers always say, yeah, palm trees as far as the eye can see the dirt. Yeah, dirt and palm trees. Yeah, it'll be fun. I will not be at SGF because I'll be there most of half the juice. It's gonna be sick. It's gonna be sick. It's gonna be sick. I I think there are plans for me to go to Disneyland with Mike Manattis, so that will be awesome. It'll be interesting. Yeah,

that be sick. I've done it before, but it was just for like a video game event, and so we just did the Star Wars stuff real quick. But I think we're going to try to like do a proper visit before we fly out. So fine, here's here's what we need to do. You should find the most disney ass, disney adult ass thing you could do there and then FaceTime me while I'm in like a linen suit somewhere in Bordeaux. If it's like two in the afternoon in Anaheim, what is it

in France? Land? Three eight hours ahead, nine hours eight Okay, awake drinking eight hours he be awake and drinking. Yeah, yeah, time today, It's likely I'm awake in drinking. I'll be having a dull whip on a log ride and you'll whatever a chateau is. Dan's got a piece of celery with peanut butter and raisins on it, going down this water spout, and I'm in palmer sipping the nectar the Calm of the Gods, and

in my linen suit. Oh that looks great, Dan. I wish I was there instead of dichotomy of man, tell Goofy, what up this Goofy talk? Yes, none of them talk. Goofy absolutely talks. I met like characters, oh, like the mascots at the or like in the cartoons or whatever. Does he talks? Yes, he talks. He's got that's just a sound. That's not a sentence. He talks. I think he's talking. He's like Scooby. I think he fought a clue. Scooby's a

different guy. They don't know each other. So that's Shaggy. Scooby doesn't say his own name. Shaggy is the one who would say that line. Scooby says his own name. Isn't that All he can say is like, I guess that's true. He does say Scooby Dooby Doo, but he's not like he says themed after Scooby Doo on Zombie Island. That ship was whack? I love? Are they not six flags? Isn't six flags like a Warner thing? Peanuts? Peanuts are at six flags? Sounds right? Snoopy

is the cartoon dog there. I saw the New Monkey movie last night, went with Ben Hansen and Bank, and I was thrown off because I saw the first three or the most recent three. There were three of the like Modern trilogy, the one that started with Rise Rise Don in War, this one and no No Rise don in War was that trilogy. This is Kingdom, but this is like Way in the Future that was even like the old sixties and seventies one. It's always like beneath the planet of the beneath the

you know, like that worry are you at? You know? Give me like a nice two out of three is what I'm looking for After a movie title, you know, you can't name them all, like MacBook operating services, you know, like I don't know if what leopard is. I don't know if that's better. I did, well, this is a kingdom. It's like it is like a monkey kingdom. Now it seems like the monkeys

have taken over whatever. Is it the first of a new trilogy. I don't know if they're doing a trilogy, but it is like they reference things from the course they are. Nobody makes one of anything anymore. I just wasn't expecting all the monkeys to just be chatting the whole time, like it was a good movie. But it's like I remember there's like one word, like Caesar's went like no in the Rise and it's whoa, he said a

word? And then I can't really remember much of Dawn and War, but in this one there's like, hey, what's up man, Hey, let's go find that eagle and you want to go get that egg color? Man, let's go just sleep with chats to dream, Let's go fuck up humans. Yeah, they're just talking the whole goddamn time. Oh hang in that one is like Ruby Rock. The King Monkey in this one is though he's a great like wrestling promo, he's like really charismatic, like King Monkey.

He doesn't get a lot of screen time, but he's he's a good ud heal in that King Monkey, it's a good King Monkeys. It's like Proximus. That's a cool name. Anything in Romans cool. It was a pretty it was pretty fun. I wouldn't say it's like incredible, but I enjoyed it. I haven't seen any of those films, and I have heard good things about them. Like I agree with you, I just haven't seen them. I don't know why, but I haven't been compelled to see war.

It's hard to like motivate me for War, the New One, any War Kingdom, just war them in general. I haven't seen any war Monkey Wars, specifically Monkey Wars, saying, Mike, have you've seen Saving Private Ryan? This movie's sick. That was a shoot that was Those are real dudes. Well, they're playing real dudes. Mary always says that she watches Saving Private Ryan every night. Right, she does say that. I read to turn it around because I know it says Dan, Well, shit, I

have to agree. She's like this Vin Diesel guy is hot. I have never said that. Actually, didn't he do? Riddick chronic? Yeah, he's yeah, he's butchered by I was very young when Reddick came out and I remember being like that guy is good looking. But that's when it fell off. You can you can fill me in on this here, And I think I might have just been absolutely blind this, but I you know, like Brendan Fraser is having this like career renaissance or something. Yeah, good

for him. I think, yeah, yeah, he's a great actor. I've enjoyed a lot of us. I think I've seeing a clip from min Max where they were talking about the Ummy movie and stuff and everyone was like, oh my god, Brendan Fraser was so hot back then, And like I remember thinking back then that like I thought he was supposed to be like a doofy goofy guy because it was always like deadly do right and George with the Jungle, Like did people find Brendan Fraser like across the board? Yes,

but not in every film. I think they're racked off to Bedazzled VHS cover every night. Well there are factors play, No, there's not. Everybody knows that if they were jacking off to Bedazzle, it was for Brendan Frasier. Yes, there was no other No, no, I told you on this podcast before I jade into that cover. I love bedazzled and Brendan Fraser and no, he was a he had his moment. There was a couple where was it in Sino Man he was having that too. There's a

couple where he like had his his like attractive era. And absolutely the Mummy with Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weiss, both of them are smoking hot. Still yes, God, no one deserves her. But I'm just saying in that film, there's a time where you know where they do that like attractive male lead thing where the hair is like it's kind of like bang for boys, and there's just it just kind of goes off to the side like little like like bug things in front of the eyes. That's when you know they're a

fuck boy. On the second those little bangs are in front of their eyes, everybody wants a piece of that ass. And that was like a universal thing like like bangs as it's the bangs. Once you get the boy bangs, you're in And uh, this is also true with other films, Uh, like Titanic, Right, Yeah, that's Leon's Leon Kennedy. Things that

everybody heart throbs. I have to play resident evil. Yes, boy bangs are banging, and the grilies love it one hundred percent, and he had boy bangs in that film strictly nineties things like if a dude did that like right now, would right now? Still nineties are like back in fashion, so it makes sense that like these nineties early two thousands heart throbs or I don't. I don't know that Brenda Fraser was a heart throb when that movie first came out. I also knew it was by the end of it.

The Mummy, Yeah, it was a something throb, you know what I mean, he wouldn't by what's that. I watched The Mummy recently on to hold up my phone. Yeah, it's entertaining. It was on a flight. It's still good. It still holds up. Yeah, I love it. That's not the one where the Scorpion King shows up at the end, right, yes, and then the Scorpion King. We don't talk about that movie. Yeah, okay, good movie. I think the third one is the Scorpion King. Just to be clear, Mummy returns though he shows up

at the end. Yeah, the cg like scorpion Yeah, the worst c ridiculous, it's awful. Yeah, yeah, we don't talk about those. But the first one still I think, I think I just watch you know what I watched for the It still holds up fifth element, still good. I've been meaning to I've been meaning to watch that for like fifteen years now. That's fun. I remember Gary Oldman just having a good time in that movie. There a bunch of actors were like, fuck it, I really

am here. This place is crazy, like everybody like really committed to their roles. Bruce willis also fucking super hot in that film, as is Leelu Dallas multi pass super hot Leelu Dallas. Yes, I forgot there was Nip in that. There's a wait are you talking, Miller Jobo bitch. Yes, that's the is the character name? Okay, got it? Yeah, one hundred percent. And she's smoking hot in that and everybody talks about her.

But this movie, I don't know what year this was made. I was like, oh my gosh, young Bruce willis in his prime, like fit, looking good. He's got like a little bit of his toft left. He's like got like just a couple of baby hairs up there, and it's all you need. That's all you need. Quite frankly, he looks great. I'm gonna do the thing where I compare myself because I always remember thinking that Bruce willis like John McLain and Fifth Element, being like, oh,

that's like an older action guy or whatever. And now I'm gonna see if I'm older than he. Okay, he was born in fifty five. He was born in Germany, so by nineteen ninety five he was forty. So yeah, he had been in like three Diehard movies. And I'm older than him in the first three Diehard movies. Okay, all right, older than him in the after the die Hard movies. I'm older than the first three John McLain movies him in those movies. Yeah, okay, we're getting

older, I think. Yeah, in that film, he's still absolutely got it, Like, hey, they've sheened his muscles, he's shiny, he looks great, he's kicking around, he punches a couple people. He looks really good. Miil and Jojovish obviously like steals the show. She's outrageous. In all these examples where I'm talking about hot like hot fuck boys, the women are absolutely just ungodly hotter. Though it's wild to me when we're like we're like, yeah, Brendan Fraser was pretty hot in the Mummy, but

Rachel es Jesus, have you seen Enemy at the Gates? No? Yes, Stalingrad World War two movie with Jude Law and Rachel Weiss. She gives she gives him an h J in the middle of a bunch of like sleeping Russian. Yes, Jude Law, she judes him off. It's great. I love it. Yeah, that's good. It's he staling with Ed Harris is the Germans. Isn't that the one where the guys like, I'm going to show you where the sniper is at the Ron Pearlman. Uh yeah.

So Ron Perlman is like his mentor, and he goes to like there's this thing with the snipers, like in their spot or it's like if you're jump, if you're going out into the open to the next cover, like you want to go first because the sniper who's watching you doesn't have time to line up a shot against the first person. But then he knows you're there, so he's ready for the second person. So he's like he defers to Ron Peerlman. At one point he's like, all right, you can. He's

like, it's your turn to go first. To Ron Pearlman jumps across this gap and gets shot in the head halfway through, and then Jude Law knows he's dealing with someone good. Oh ship, but it's at Harris. I bet I'd like the movie. It's awesome, sounds cool. I was jump before he's the mistake of rob jumping across the gap? Is that ron forman, We're like jumping like a normal person. Why didn't he like dive or like, yeah, I would do? Would hell divers die a cartwheel over

sniper? Would suspect that? To clarify, they didn't know for sure in this instance that anybody was watching them. It's just a cautionary thing because they knew there were snipers and stelling gram auctionary cart wheels the dangerous gap. Then he gets shot in the dick instead, and then he's still dead. Would you rather get shot in your head or in your dick? I'd rather die right away. Co come back to me. We'll break after the emails and

then come back. Yeah, uner meet the Gates is yeah. Bob Hoskins plays Nikita Khrushchev. Who else is in it? Joseph not yes, Joseph finds fiends josephine jo there's a Joseph Uh. I think it's Finn's finesse finds you recognize me, You've seen him. He's always a good like character actor.

Oh that guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like Jude Law's kind of admirer who becomes his propagandist, because part of the the whole point of Jude Law becoming this like, uh, skilled hunter from Siberia coming in to save Stalingrad from the attacking Nazi forces, occupying Nazi forces, that like it's very much about propaganda, like putting him as the hero up and like giving Stalingrad hope. And then Ed ed Harris's character, I forget his last

name. The enemy sniper comes in. He's called in specifically to hunt Jude Law. He comes in on this luxury train car with like he's got his like metal case of German cigars that he's smoking Ed Harris, and he starts just annihilating people left and oh my god, I love Harris. Movie becomes in like the half of the second act and the third act, a duel in the City of Stealing between Jude Law, this dude, this hunter from Siberia and Ed Harris, this like upper crust Nazi sniper. Ooh, it's

really cood. Okay, that sounds interesting. I watch it maybe once a year. Still, when I just see it pop up, it's I think it's on It's on some streaming thing. But yeah, Rachel Weiss is in it. Yeah. Oh. Also you can see like where three of the Call of Duty games got oh sure their missions? Yeah, the early two ones. Yeah. Yeah. But Bob Hoskins gives a speech about how he's like, this is not Peter's or no, I forget he said. Yeah, He's like, this is not Moscow, this is Stollingrad and Stalin is

still alive. Uh, Stalin was fucked up, dude, though I've heard yeah, and Savory, I haven't heard. That's what I said. You guys want to talk about video games. Yeah, let's do that. Dude. The guy killed like fifty million people. It took me a beat and I was like, wait, I can press it. Yeah, he killed a lot of people, arguably more than Hitler. She's gone from liking Nixon to be in a Stalin mark. If I could, I wouldn't shoot you in the head and in the deck do the head first? No, got

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ideas off of each other. I don't know if that's how you've been playing. What is going on with this game? I know Donkey's company published it? Yeah, which Mary, I saw you were streaming some of this the other night status on it. How far are you. Let's let's dance around the spoilers at all. I mean it's not very well. I kind of don't think it is, because like there's no story at all, and like

the stuff you can do is like I could mention an item. But as long as I'm not saying specifically, well, use this, use okay, we can dance around this like Fez or Outer Wilds was potential spoiler in mind for the Witness. You know, yes, the Witness had that. It's kind of like the exciting part. What makes this game so special is the aha moment because this is the most dewey game of the year, And I am using that aggressively because no one should say that, because it's fucking may

and you shouldn't have said it last episode. This game is so doing. It has no text or like any written stuff at all. Week next none And when you get too dark to see the map, pedantic piece of shit, you can draw on the map and then I hate this. Actually I didn't know you could draw on the map because it didn't explain it. There's like no copy in this game, so they don't tell you how to do

stuff. The very first time I got an item, and I'm going to avoid spoilers, but the very first time, my very first item, I thought that I was supposed to go somewhere and like, you know, yes, I didn't know that it was an item that I could use in the world. I didn't know that it could be a weapon. I didn't know that it could be used for traversal. I didn't know anything. I just

got this item, and they never explain anything. So when you start manipulating your items in fun ways and you realize when you come across the puzzle and you're like, I don't know if I can beat this. The first thing you do is just cycle through all your items and just start throwing them in the space and be like, is this how it's done? And you just fuck around until you find out, and sometimes you'll learn things just by accident. It's it's like a meaning to use. Oh I got the item,

what the fuck does this do? And I'll press a button in a different way. I'll oh that can do that. Holy shit, that changed. And then you look at the whole match, which, by the way, way to give some context if you don't know Animal, well, it's like a thirty four megabyte game. It is, uh, it's a metroid Vania

with like nob yeah. Yeah, So it's like there, it's very puzzle heavy, so like there will be enemies, but it's more like you walk into a room and oh, there's this big animal here, and they're doing this to me, and that's scary. It's not about combos. It's not Prince of Persia, it's not Tales of whatever Zoo. It's a very different you mentioned Fez, you know, it is more along the lines of a Fez or a Witness, that type of puzzle heavy like in a metroid Vania

wrapping. It does have the map, it's got the map markers and stuff that kind of breath the while Prince of Persias style thing, which is helpful, But there is a there's a deep mystery to this game that keeps getting Like, for instance, this is not a spoiler. Pretty early on you're going to be exploring around and you'll get a treasure chests. It's like, oh, I wonder what I'm getting here? A new items like fucking egg? Like what is an egg? And then it's like, oh, another

treasure chests, Great, what's my reward? And that's another egg. Like It's like for a while it was like what the fuck am I doing with all these eggs? And then you eventually find out. It never leads you, by the hand. Everyone I've talked to you about this game has had a different path, different items they're getting in different orders, different revelations. It's a it's pretty special. I would say, what are you playing on Dan? Very very special? I played on Steam. I saw credits.

Now I know that there is more there is. It seems like a game that can go about as deep as you want it to go. I've heard of people saying they be eat it in five hours. I've heard of people saying they're on fifty hours. That's insane. How did you get credits? I think I'm on let me check my Steam. I think I've let it runs. This probably isn't accurate because I do this a lot. It says I'm at fifteen hours and I have four flames. I see okay, I

think you could see credits in the near future. But again I saw credits. But I think there's If I want to put another twenty hours in this game, I think there's enough stuff there. It seems like there is. I one spent two hours getting a fucking egg. Yeah, yes, just

getting an egg. That was like it was it seemed impossible. Have you ever also had this moment where you like come across something and you're like, I must not have the item to do this yet, and then you find out that you did have it all along, you just need to putts around there a little bit more and figure it out. It's so good, it's

super satisfying. And there's also the times too, where it's like you'll just kind of be stuck and then you'll be in a room and you'll see or hear notice something and be like, ah, I wonder if like could this do this? And sometimes you'll just try something that you're no way this is going to fucking work, and then something will happen You're like, whoa, holy shit, I did not expect that and that changes everything, and then I need to go explore this entire map again and need to change have this

knowledge, like how is this going to apply? I'll look at rooms in a different way now that I know this is possible. It's really cool, really neat how it very subtly teaches the player how to do something. I think the level design is quite well done, where you will be in an area, an environment, and it is very softly teaching you how to use a new skill, very metroidvenia right, and then you'll be in another area and that same skill won't work and it turns out you need to use it

with another item and combine them in order to solve the puzzle. So the game is teaching you through mechanics, you know. I absolutely love when games do this, when the game is not literally telling you what to do, there's nothing clear. But a good example of this would be a door and there's three markers on it and none of them are lit, and there's three buttons in the space, and you're like, all right, I got to push these buttons right. That tells you everything you need to know as a

player. So you don't need to really, you don't really get told anything, and you have to actually be very thoughtful when you're playing this game. What is the game trying to convince me to do in this space? I was never casually just platforming in this game. I was constantly stuck and needing to think about what the game was trying to get me to solve. I also just want to call out it's called animal. Well, we really haven't

talked about the animals yet. It's a very like fun concept where throughout the game you will come across various creatures. A lot of them are beautiful, some of them are mythical, some of them are animals. You have one hundred percent seen in your daily life like a dog. And they all have different behaviors that play around with the mechanics of the game. So the items that you have may benefit you, it may hurt you. It's really interesting.

And some of the animals are like, I fucking hate that, and if you bring that out in front of me, I will fucking kill you. I will ruin you, And all of a sudden, yeah, I will destroy you. I will eat your skin. And it's it's kind of a horror In some ways. I don't think it's that scary, but there have been times where I screamed or like yelled out loud because an animal reacted in such a hostile way and I wasn't prepared and I got eaten alive.

You're having somewhere and you're like, I'm safe down here, and it's like you hear a horrible sound. You're like, oh, exactly what you're talking about. That scene is fucking awful. I actually like I had someone else who was watching me play. I was like, Hey, why don't you play this? It's really fun. There's some thing I need under the ground here, Why don't why don't you go get it and see what happens.

It's a nightmare fuel. But there's like a couple of really good examples of like a time where I went into a scene and there were these beautiful, oh my god, I don't know what they're called, long legged birds, stork. I think they're prettier than ostriches. They're like herons. I think they're herons, like long legged birds, and stop guessing birds and I have gold benches. I'm going to accept herons and I'm going to move on.

There's no reason to name. But you're just trying to stay breasts anyway. You walk doves have morning boners. I'll also accept mourning doves. You're walking across these birds and you're not in the space with them yet, you're just seeing them, and they're actually very beautiful, and it's kind of just this visual spectacle. It reminds me a little bit of hollow night have Sometimes it'll like let you see a new space and how pretty it is, and then

uh, and then you can't interact with it yet. Get your hand off that motherfucking soundboard. I don't want to see both your hands. I want them both in the air. I want them in the air. I want your hands. I want them up in the air, the hands in the air. I'm not going to have this conversation with you. You mentioned hollow Night, and I just think we can both agree that this is clearly when your head. Dan is right, dan is right, Dan is right,

Dan is right, dan is dan is right, Strong and stupid. Sorry, I'm gonna have a panic attack. I'm gonna need steroids so that I can live from these episodes because I am so upset from doing this to me. Stop it. The birds birds. You're walking by it, and the birds are really pretty, but you can't interact with them. And then like three hours later it turns out that you can interact with the birds in a later area. And so the game's teasing you constantly with like really cool areas

that you can't interact with yet. But as you progress the game, you do get to see all these cool spaces and interact with them and like interact with all these funky animals. It's really cool. Have you also done the thing where it's like, as you're trying to kind of get the feeling of every animal, it's like there's always the formers, Like I'll just throw firecrackers at it and see what the hell happens. Yeah, see what they think

of fire crackers. You have to you have to try different items. One of my favorite ones is like, it's so hard to do this, so spoiled. I don't think this is a big spoil But there's an animal that hates bubbles, and it's so funny to me, Like, it's just a bubble hat it animal that bubbles. Yeah, it's a bird. It's not. It's not just it's a different bird. I think it's name. It's more birds for me. You're spoiling it more no bard owls now borrowed house,

black capped chickaties. It's got a long beak like a poker flamingo, woodpecker, ostriche. I think it's like a hummingbird. A hummingbird also have long beaks, but they have a Yeah. Anyway, Uh, it's just funny to watch how the animals interact with the world, whether or not they hate you, whether or not they like you. It's very interesting to me, and it's also very It's kind of like being dropped off in a zoo and you're like, oh, I don't know how these animals are going interact

with me, and you gotta figure it out. Sometimes they eat you alive and sometimes they help you. It's it's really it's really uh creative, and it makes me feel absolutely like I'm just I'm in death's door and I'm hoping what will happen, but you never know, I'm predicting. It's also really fun to talk to people who are further along than you and be like you can just kind of like you don't want spoilers, but you be like, hey, am I barking up the wrong tree here? Or hey, I

just got this thing. Am I supposed to know what to do with this? Or is there a way to get over here faster? And like I love you know, the friends I've been talking to about it, they're like, oh, maybe you know, maybe don't worry about that yet, or oh maybe you've got something here, like oh maybe tried this general realm of activity with it, and you know, just kind of like softly pushing you towards solutions rather than just like what do I do with they? Yo?

I think that's really nice too. I had someone when I was streaming it. I was stuck on a puzzle and someone in my chat said, I'm not telling you anything except you don't need anything, and so what he's basically saying is is like you have everything you need, you can figure this out. Just take your time and over you're against it for a bit. Sometimes you know it takes twenty thirty minutes for you to like figure it out. But the AHAs are really good, they really are. This game has some

I just dinked my mic. This game has some really good AHAs. So I really do recommend this game. I think it is very up there for me. I have not beat it. My negatives are that there's a couple Here's the thing too, I'm not sure Dan if my experience is the same as yours, and I can't go over this without spoiling it. My negatives are that there's been a couple things the game has asked me to do that I think are absurdly hard. Like I think they are. You have to

be so freaking good at the game in order to get through it. That it seems platform related brutal. It's platforming and enemy related, like there's an enemy and platforming simultaneous. I think it seems too hard. Okay, I'm going to be very vague here. Does it have something to do with getting something to another place. Yep, well okay, that was hard, but

you can do it. I it just it's really difficult. And I was surprised how hard the game is. I had to spend some time trying different courses and you know, routes that I was going to take and stuff, and eventually, like I was like, oh I can do this. Yeah, yeah, I believe you. I think, uh, I've been I don't know if being hard is a good uh and you know negative of this game. I think what I'm saying is is like there were times where I

was like, this challenge seems unnecessarily cruel to the player. Sure, yeah, just so a massive spike because everything else is like what a fun little puzzle. This bird does not like bubbles. I have to figure this one out. The other ones are like I get murdered and it takes me fifteen minutes to get back into this area. Goddamn it. Oh I know what bird you're talking about that hates bubbles. I know what you're talking about now.

Yeah, And there are like early on it is kind of frustrating, like some of the like checkpoint type stuff and getting around, but like through learning things, there are ways that kind of make things better as far as that stuff goes, Yeah, it's it's fine. I really do recommend this game. I think it is this year's puzzle experience that everyone should try. I absolutely, very very much recommend this game. I would compare it. I know this kind of sounds weird, but I recommend it a little bit

to Cocoon. Oh as far as like a lot of yeah, I could see it where it's like, it's not leading by the hand, You're gonna learn the mechanics, so you're gonna figure out the puzzles on your own. Yeah, it's I could see that. Yeah, there's no portals, it's not a portally thing. But actually, never mind, all right, let's move on. I accidentally I'll spile the game. Just yeah, the no communication, here's an environment solve. It is like very much this game,

and I think it's brilliant. I think it's extraordinarily well made. And I can't wait to see what this dev does next, because I think this is like one of those singular or like solo dev situations, like this is a very small it is very small team. Congrats to them. And also, hey, with Donkey, you know, like he announced that thing and saw a lot of Twitter experts coming out of the you know and be like, oh, you know YouTuber things. He can come do this thing and knows

how to public and it's like, look, obviously it's not. I'm sure that people are helping him. He had a great developer working on it, but like he picked a good one. The first one out of the gate is a success, has off to him. Prove them wrong, fuck him, you know, like good for good for Donkey. I am foreign era where a YouTuber can replace the suits of a publisher that says that I will accept that. I will not accept everyone congratulating Donkey for what a good game

is. When I fucking single dev made this game and killed it, all praise should go to the dev and Donkey was the suit that maybe helped bankroll him and marketed the ship out of it, and for that I will give him absolute credit. But I mean, there is a curation thing and knowing which ones to pick and the first one is very important and stuff, and like yeah, like he did not make the game, that credit goes to the dev. But like Billy, yeah, so Dan, what are you

didn't? What was Mary saying recently about her Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, she doesn't like him. She wants everything to be like Assassin's Creed level dev team, and she says, once the game's out the door, get rid of them. They're out the door. Do you ever say that? That's what she says. I don't even off have ever beaten an Assassin' screen my entire life. For people that aren't on the patron level, they don't see the video of you wearing the shirt that says crunch is good. That

suck my dick. Why do you have any of my good soundbites? You gotta get a Nixon one. Now we need stalin things. Your voice to a AI, well, now he's got dick clear as day, yelled use it, learn it, learn it, suck it. I hate you your live laughlows. I just want to get a pillow. What's our next piece of merch? Everything you just said incursive on like a pillow. Live it, love it, learn it, suck it. That's our beach towel. Their next Patoo's in the summer catalog. In that script, all right,

Mary, you tried out the game. Dan recommended many shoot adventures I did. I also streamed this game for a little over three and a half hours. It is as was mentioned to me, it is a Zelda bullet hell adventure that looks so simple. The audio is disappointing to me. I think that from a game design perspective, it's very well done. It is so clean. You are basically learning shortcuts in this environment, and you are upgrading

your little shooter cannon to have more bullets. Faster bullets make you speedier, better dodging. Very fun to traverse the area and especially get into a new space and figure out what it's trying to teach you or what the new skill is. This is again very Zelda or Dungeony, where you get a new skill, then it puts you an environl where all of a sudden you can jump around and use it, and it's teaching you to use it properly.

I got lost a couple of times where I was I have no idea where this is what this game wants me to do next, or where it wants me to go. That can be a little frustrating, but I always figured it out. I always solved it. I do think it's a good game. I have not beaten it. I don't know animal well has taken up all of my time, and I think like Animal Well is absolutely my shit. I think that Mini Shoot Adventures has its moments, and I will agree

it is a solid game. Yeah. If you would have gone to my head ask like, okay, you haven't played either Animal Well or Mini Shoot Adventures. Which game do you think Mary is going to like more? I do think I would say Animal Well is definitely more your style. But yeah, I mean you can see why. Yeah, it was a big I can see why you recommended it. And if it wasn't for you stealing my voice and use it against me, I would even give you some credit.

But fortunately, because you have harmed my trust, I will just say it's not a bad game, and I appreciate the recommendation. Well, I can earn it back by saying, like, you know it is I think the indie game of the year. Damn right, it's not trust not even it's specifically why I said that Animal Well is really dewey because I think they do the same thing, which is PLoP you in a world with no text and be like figure it out. I do. Well. I think you have

to agree that Animal Well is way more thinking than Many Shoot. It's more thinky, But that has nothing to do with Dewey's. It's hoey. A Dewey can be a thinkye, yeah do and think you're not talking about yeah. Deys and thinks aren't mutually exclusive. It can be a Dewey think them that's right, And this one is a think them that also has you do. The thing that we're avoiding is when it has a ship ton of text

and you're like, I don't want you to talk to me. You talk sitting here listening either talking many shoot straight up Dewey an well is dewey think this is not This is not three things. This isn't a triangle. It's Dewey talky. It is just a line of Dewey and talky. But maybe it's a triangle for muscular skinny. But it's like maybe we throw a thinkum in there. No, this isn't a fucking rhombus. It's just a lot. I don't I don't care. You would have added one if you could.

It's either Dewey or it's talky, and I'm saying it's very dewey. Can we have a best think them of the year, A game of the year danyes? What's the anti thinkham though? Dewey Vampire Survivors. Yeah, well you gotta kind of plan some stuff out there. You're your build, which, by the way, I'm playing that right like that transition Daddy Mikey's getting good at this kind of do way best. The kids are arguing, Daddy's got to step in and transit show. Just think come, I added

it to the dock Per Game of the Year. Okay, yes, I am playing Operation Guns for Vampire Survivors. It is a good DLC for Vampire Survivors. Did not love the among us one. Did not think the aesthetics or the weapons really worked with the Vampire Survivors for that. This is Contra. It's got contra music, it's got contrac characters, got a bunch of suff Contra hardcore, my favorite Contra. All the weapons make perfect sense.

It's spread guns, it's homing missiles, it's things that you're leveling up and evolving, Contra sprites, Contra areas. It's just it is. They put Contra onto Vampire Survivors. How the fuck is that not going to be good? Like Castlevania onto Dead Cells two years ago Tasmania. Yeah, that was it. That was deal C for Dead Cells, right, correct. Is this man that was so much fun? Yeah? That was good. That

was really smart. Yeah, yeah, it's it's similar. It's just this one that you just hear the Pitchford and you're just like, oh yeah, of course, of course that makes perfect sense. So it's got me playing more Vampire Survivors. That's never a bad thing. It does the thing where like sections some of it off into its own like little adventure thing if you don't want to just like be in the big general pool of the main menu. But yeah, I feel like Vampire Survivors, you like contract, it's

a no brainer. Still good on steam Deck, It's like you, oh yeah, definitely. Does it age well in the sense that, like the game is casual and simple. Do you feel like you've played it or are you like excited to go back into it, because that's like my hesitation is, like I've beaten that game, don't. I don't have much more I want to get into. I'm not at the like obsession level I was when it first came out, because it's like, you play enough of that game,

and I've played through it on like three consoles. Now, yeah, you kind of know how this goes where it's like if I get a good build and I'm just destroying everything and I barely have to move. But it's like, okay, well I got a winning run here and it's only twelve minutes in, so I guess I'll just walk around for you know, eighteen more minutes. So like it's a long time. Thirty minutes too, is

it is? And so like, I mean, once you played enough for you kind of know what you're getting into, but like it's ideal, like, oh, I'm watching something in the background, I'm you know, I'm playing. I'm podcasting something. Yeah, yeah, you podcasting listening. I guess podcasting implies you could. Is that what that hand motion has been this whole time? Never a hand motion? Yeah, you're like you do that a lot, and then you do the Yeah, you're being filthy with your

jokes. Now, No, you've got the soundboard. Oh that's the nice that's the one, okay, because that might makes that noise all the time doing it. Oh he's not here, Well, it's good playing, stupid man. That's a transition. Another thing you last I talked to you, you're gonna wait on full release for Haities two. But looks like you caved. No not really. I think I did it exactly the way I want to, Like, I wanted to play it enough towards like everybody seems very

excited about it. I want to get a sense of it. So I'm waiting till the whole release. That's what I do. So do you emit? You caved? I played about an hour a bit. I peeked in the door. I was like, I don't think I caved. I don't consider that a cave. That was a curios I said, you said you were going to wait until one point zero and then you didn't. If that constitutes caving, then I caved. Thank you. Yes, Mary Rry got it. I got you a sound clip thank you, very specific use case

saying like the stupidest ship. He says so many stupid things all the time. If I wanted to, if I wanted to have a soundboard of Dan saying dumb things about how he's horny for games and what I have it? Yeah, like out of a can it exists? It exist? How is it so far? I see why people are enjoying it. I see why they're excited about it. It is for an early access thing, technically it

is. It feels pretty far along. It's the moment to moment combat and everything, and even like the hub world and the character interactions and stuff seem like mostly there, and so yeah, I was really enjoying it and kind of getting into the vibe aginn of like oh yeah, here's or the routine of like, okay, this is it's fun building these out and like,

oh, I've got this. These powers are working really well together. I was remembering why I loved Hades. But then it's like I loaded it up one time and I saw they had a thing where oh, click to see content roadmap, and it's like, oh, by the end of the year, we'll have a whole new area and then we're going to build out customization stuff and then we're going to have this and that and balancing, and it's like, okay, well, yeah, I kind of want to play when

that's all done, you know, like I've seen enough towards like I've reignited my excitement for Hades, but I'm okay with putting it on the shelf until it's done. The characters seem really hot, and I rated someone at the end of my stream who was playing it, and that boss fight looked pretty intense. And so I think, you know, obviously fans of the first

one are going to enjoy that. It's going to give you some like really intense boss fights where you're gonna have to have a really good build in order to survive, very chaotic, a lots of shit on the screen. At the same time, I think it seems like it's just going to be more of the good good and that sounds great to me, But I would rather wait until it's until it's ready. Yep, yep. I think we're in the same boat. It'll be good. What is Pools? It's a fucking

game where Mary. I think this has been an interesting one for you to go in blind. Yeah, I have heard about this someone, someone at a party two weeks ago told me. Let me tell you what they said to me, and you tell me if this is accurate. Okay. I was at a party two weeks ago and a guy was like, I've been playing Pools. It's fucking crazy. And I was like, what is it?

And he was like, it's a game that's kind of like playing a dream where you're slowly descending into madness and it is a scary game but nothing happens, but it will mortify you. And I was like, what does that even mean? Like what happens in and he was like nothing, I yeah, yeah, I think they prepared you pretty well for it. It is not necessarily a jump scare thing. It is more of like a sense of unease. And I hadn't thought of it in terms of like a dream

like, but it is kind of like a dream. It's like what is this place? Where am I? Why am I just walking around all these like hallways with pools and you're just walking through like a bunch of like Waiste high water and going down dark hallways and just kind of seeing weird things that don't seem like a real place. And there's you know, it's not enemies. I haven't beaten in, but it's just like it's, uh, it's very wet. It's very it's a very wet game. It's a lot of

walking around to be like what am I doing here? Where am I going? And then something will happen and you'll be like, wait, I want to go that way? Was that something I I'd been there? And then something different will happen. It's like, oh, what is this fucking place? Can I do this? And like it's unlike anything I've played. I would say, it's it's you're just walking around pool, but it is uneasy. What's the point taking in the space. I don't think there's anything,

there's nothing to figure out. I don't think there's a story that's going to like give you answers or anything. There's no dialogue, there's no context. It's just it's all about just this your surroundings, and just how kind of creepy it is. It's it's it's like like not a nightmare, but it's just a fucked up fever dream in why nightmare kind of creepy. It's just kind of creepy in these big, open wet rooms and there's holes and hallways

and uh, it is hard to describe, but it is. It was different enough that I was like, I want to try this out for myself, and I was like, Okay, this is an interesting experiment here weird. I mean, that person who was telling me about it was like, I really do recommend that you give it a shot. But it's just so hard, hard when people can't describe it like with any words. It's a very hard one. Yes, yeah, yeah, And it's hard to be like you got to play it, but it's like, I think it's interesting

that it exists, and I'm glad I tried it. Okay, I don't know. There's a lot of indies that just dropped that I'm really excited about. There's been kind of like an indie mecha going on right now, and I'm I was bummed I didn't have time because I put so much time into Animal Well that I didn't have time to play Crow Country or a little Kitty Big City or I heard this about this game called A Thousand Resist, Like there's all these games. I really want a Kitty Big City, Like this

is a merry ass game right away. Well, that's really cute, I do hear cat. Yeah, and you do like cute things. You'd like knock off cute things off your list, like being a little scamp like Goose Game, but with a cat. It reminds me of Goose Game. Yeah, it's like a black Cat too. It looks really cute. I'm telling you, amidst all of the troubles in Triple A right now, this is

like the era for smaller indie games. There has been some real bangers coming out, and I want to I want to play more of this type of game, crip Master. Have you heard of this three D dungeon crawler? And I think like when you type or speak it changes things in the game. Oh that's cool, I think. So that's cool. Huh. It's like supposed to be like really experience. I'll put it in our discord.

It's called crip Master. Really. I want to play all these games, and this game came out May ninth, Like it's like primo for us to like play right now. But like I've run out of time for all these different games, so I think we should like try and uh, you know, check some of these off the next time we record, because I was really looking forward to playing a bunch of these. Yeah, if you start, yeah, let me know. I'm curious about that. If that's fine,

I would check that out as well. Keep popping out of a hedge talking to the little kitty. This kit. This cat looks like Scarlet, my cat, but without the white spots like big green eyes black. I'm looking at my list and stuff I've been playing. It's all wet games. You got pools. I tried Endless Ocean, that switch game. I didn't know what the fuck that was all about. I Animal well is pretty wet,

and there's some wet areas. And then I've been playing wind Waker HD on my Steam deck, which is a fucking great way to play that game. So I'm just wet central over here. There's another clip, just fucking wet central over here. What nobody's wetter than me? Dan record? Do you guys? Want your emails? All right? As always, you can run into Firescape cast at gmail dot com. Question comments, concerns, anything, questions might get read on the show. We've got three tonight. We've

got one from Justin Mary. Can you read this first one? Sure? Hello? Escape Ease. I'm currently replaying help how I can do this? I'm currently replaying hell Blade Senua's Saga in preparation for the sequel next week. It remains a clever and nuanced exploration of mental illness. For whatever ridiculous reason, when I originally played through this game in twenty seventeen, I ignored the suggestion to wear headphones, and I truly have no idea why, nor any

credible defense to mount. That game's audio design is everything, and the feeling of inhabiting Senua's head as she's bombarded by all sides of constant, contradictory, intrusive thoughts is simply impossible to appreciate without headphones. I'm really glad I finally did it right, and it brings me to my question. Can any of you think of any other game which depends so much on how you play it in order for its ideas to be fully realized? And no plastic guitar for

guitar hero that's cheating. Smooches. Justin still the original and undisputed biggest fire Escape fan from San Marcos, Texas. Thank you, Justin smooches. So let's take out any like music like sammitdem Ego, musical instrument, d DR pad like that. Let's take out just like controller specific stuff, racing games for the wheel. Yeah yeah, I remember. Yeah, that's all cheating,

was it. Stephen Taitillo Kataku a while back wrote an article was like ten years ago about like played Red Dead Redemption on mute and it was like what why why well you turned the music off or something, and he's like, oh yeah, I just like, you know, I forgot what the angle was. It was probably like when Red Dead one came out, but everyone has been like, how what the fuck the sound is so good in

this game. That's weird, huh. I say, it's not an easy like one to answer right away, Like I feel like I have to put some thinkums into it. This is a thinkum of the year. I like a good question. Love playing. I mean this is kind of opens up a whole lot of the can of worms, like oh, if you play multiplayer games better, but like I love playing Red Alert too, solo all the time, skirmishes, but like the way we set up that Red Alert

to stream was extremely fun. Dan for a giant bomb because pandemic twitch streams. Yeah, because yeah, I enjoyed like having the audience see both of our stuff, but also like we could hear they could hear us both strategizing out loud. That was a fun, really creative way to play that.

It's not exactly answering the question, but that was that was fun. Yeah, one baseball like World Series Fundraiser was also like I had way more fun with that than I would have because we made it into a world series. Sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to do on like the technical end, like you know, him bringing up headphones and things like that, or it's like, oh, you gotta play this NBR, you got to play this on this console, you gotta play this portable or this is if you're

not playing this on you played that game on a Steam deck. That's fucked up. Like hmmm, I don't know if these are like correct, but i'll give a couple. I remember the first time I played Undertail, I just played it as anyone would, like, you know, I would fight when I wanted to fight, and I wouldn't when I didn't. And it turns out that the game alters dramatically if you always fight and kill or always avoid. And playing it again with that context made me truly appreciate the nuance

and the intricacy of Undertail and what they did. Uh, And so I think that's really neat. I don't know if you have to play it that way, but I think it's really important to have that context, and you don't. Actually, I don't think you can have that context the first time you play the game. The intention is to play it and then find out that your choices mattered throughout the entire experience. And I find that to be

like really interesting and valuable. Near Automata's new game, plus playing it twice or three times, like you're not really playing that game. If you only quote unquote beat it once. It's a lot of rogue lights, hades, volatro. It's like, wait, don't stop. The first time you have a good run, you know, right one? I got one until dawn because I think if I had played that solo, I I don't know.

It's not really my type of game typically and not really like that type of narrative horror game guy, but like that was remember Bonk and I. I think it just started dating when that came out, and we were like, you know, okay, I'll be the guy characters, you'd be the girl characters, and we'll hand the controller back and forth depending on who's being controlled here. And it's like, oh okay you oh two years died now I just lost one of mine. Like just kind of that like shared story where

we're both kind of in charge of different characters. I think made it. That would not have been a memorable game for me if I was playing solo, but it turned into something I have great memories of. I think there's probably multiple games like that where like, yes, you can play it alone. The joy is playing this other people. The first time I played No talk, Wait keep talking and no one explodes. I played it like I think I played it alone. It's just like I don't know if I like

understood how you were supposed to do it. And then I played it with people and I was like, oh, that's a good example my my thing. Off that with my my brother. When I was like telling him how it played, He's like, it doesn't really seem like my thing. He plays a decent amount of games. But when I finally I was like, hey, Dad, could you before I get home for Christmas, when we're both gonna be could you print off these pages and put them in that binder.

Joe's like, oh, you get the physical pages. It's like you don't have to. You can use the PDF on an iPad, but it's way more fun when you're flipping through pages like special binder, like cold War era shit. Yeah, diffusing a bomb ya. I mean, this one's obvious and applies to a bunch of like four player games. But Mario Party, I think it's like this is it's late. You're with a bunch of friends that you're closing up with to just talk constant shit too. You're having

drinks, you know, like that's the context for that burial Cart. Yeah, that's the way to play beer. I've played bureau Cart in a long time, I think in general, but like that's also fair for what Justin said, which is it should be so obvious that you should play a game like help Blade with headphones. Right, some of these they are obvious, which is the audio of a game is very integral to most games design.

Hell Blade very much so because it is about her mental health. But think about how many games would absolutely abysmally suffer if you were like, nah, I just don't want to listen to the game because so many of them use audio cues or their music is phenomenal, Like I wow them in their intended environment is important. I loved Tetris effects that I first played it on four. When I went to VR and I on VR, I was like, oh man, this is how this game should be played if you can.

That is one of the thirty people best VR examples, because you can't say half Flight Alex because that's only VR. You know, it's not like you have the option. Wh'res like tet Respect you can play in VR or not, and it's way better in VR. Yeah, it's really good. Oh, broad streaming Star Wars Squadrons. I didn't really love it when I played it on screen, and then I again, granted this was when I was like testing the PSVR two or whatever, but I was like, okay,

sitting in this cockpit in VR, like now it's more exciting. I mean, there's that Steel Battalion game on Xbox that like, I don't even know if you can play with the normal controller, but you want the giant stupid mech controller, Like that's another controller one. You know, horror games or scary games in general, if you're not in the proper environment, you might

actually be doing a disservice to what that game is trying to cultivate. I have seen people play Amnesia in a very bright room with a bunch of friends and like the window is open and the birds are singing. That game is intended for you to play alone in a dark space with headphones to make you piss your pants, and it will be successful if you do that recipe. So like, if you want to play a horror game, I suggest you do it right and appreciate it for what it is. It will absolutely scare

the ever shit out of you. But if you're not doing it in the correct environment. I don't know how scary it probably is. Obviously jack Box. If it's just like the three of us hanging out, we're not going to play jack Box. But if you're home for me alone playing jack Box, Yeah, I keep voting for myself. Yeah, that was really funny. Yeah, t shirt from Saddest Story by t k O And it's just

me. If any other come come up over the next another thing. I'm sure there's like even better examples of that, but on like you know, on the fly, I would say, like, yes, make sure you're playing the game the way it's intended. If someone tells you, all games I think should be played with good audio and the proper ambient lightings that you can actually get immersed in the experience. So yeah, listen to new episode of my favorite podcast, Deadlock. And they just flew to Japan and they

had the movies on the screen in front of them on their flight. Yeah, and one of the guys watched the new Wonka movie, the Timothy Schallamey one with closed captions on mute and no headphones. It's like the other guys, this is the weirdest thing. Watching the whole movie in closed captions, but he had he didn't he had with him, I think, but like he just didn't listen to the sex is just like I love chocolate, I children. That guy has bodies in his basement. Thank you, justin the

original and unisputed biggest Firescape fan from San Marcos, Texas. Dan, do you want to read this one from Raz? Yes, Dear fire Crew, longtime listener, first time caller. I'm wondering why nobody ever brings up the Sherlock TV Show with Benedict Cumberbatch when discussing the best TV shows of all time? Is it because it's not American? Do you have a TV show that nobody brings up when discussing the best TV shows of all time? Love the

show, Keep up the good work. That's Raz from Romania twenty four. I think it is because it's not America. I think I think he's right. I don't know. I never see bring up We never bring up internationals. Like the most way we do is like Monk like I will, I will bring up anime Python like other than that, that's a movie, a show flying circus Monty Python was Yeah, they had a whole time. Were

about the movies. No, those are good too. If you thought you aged yourself with the previous movie discussion, you have really done it this time bringing up a Monty Python's TV show Flying Circuses on Comedy Second in the nineties. It's fine. Well, I was ten and the show was from like the seventies, but they were showing it in the nineties at four in the morning. Sometimes you're like sixty five years old. Don't tell anyone. I wouldn't say that this is like the best show of all time, but I

fucking look like it's one of my top five's. At the Flight of the Concords, which is New Zealand, season two was not nearly as good as season one. They kind of like had to a bunch of songs as well. They've got They've got that bit with Murray when they're talking about they're like, yeah, it's like a he's like a Stevie Nixon, Lindsay Buckingham. They wrote they wrote a whole album about their breakup and then they performed it on stage. He's like yeah, rumors. He's like no, no,

this was all true. When was like, oh, yeah, these guys are like from Australia, They're like, no, it's New Zealand probably what it was awesome, but no, yeah, in terms of shows that like no one brings up in like best of chats, like The Terror is one of the best shows ever made. I think what what year did even come out at this point? It was am C, AMC was AMC. They did two seasons. The first season was the two British ship ships, the

HMS Terror in the HMS Erabis might be butchering that. The other one the British two British Royal Navy crews trying to find the Northwest Passage passage through the Arctic Ocean. Basically that would like cut their trip around the world in half before the whole before they could go farther south in the Atlantic. Jared Harris is one of the captains Unreal who plays Lord Tully in Game of Thrones.

He's in it Unreal show. It's it's kind of horror. Uh, there's aspects of a monster that's stalking them when they get stuck in the ice, but it's also like this very extremely well written character study of a bun like a bunch of these dudes, and like the my mark of a good show is like or at least I really enjoy shows similar to Search Party, where like it ends up in a completely fucking different place. I mean, Search Party is the absolute extreme of that. But the Church Party is a great

answer for this too. No one's ever talked about Church Party. It's like five great seasons, yeah, five of different genres. Yeazz. But but the Terror, like each character I could not have imagined where they ended up if they survived toward the end, and then it just gets so fucking bleak. But The Terror is incredible, just really gorgeous show, despite the fact that it's mostly snow and the interior halls of ships. Really good characters.

I have not seen the second season that's about Japanese and tournament camps. I need to watch it. Yeah, the Americans, I don't think it's talked about enough. I think that shows incredible that honestly, I think deserves in the count to be in the conversation with like the Wire no men, the Sopranos. The Americans is just unreal. Those are probably mine. I comedy wise, I always preferred The British Office, you know, I thought it

was just much more contained. It's like twelve episodes in the Christmas Special. I thought they were just like you know, I've seen most of the American Office and it definitely had its moments for sure, but overall, I definitely prefer the British one and then Nirvana the band. The show I don't think anyone ever talked about because it was on fucking Vice Land or something I ever

heard of that. Have you seen the we Shop music thing that you know, Ninja Guide into You know that that meme that's from that show and it's the guy that made that, he made the BlackBerry movie that came out recently. Yes, yes, but I mean this guy was on Nirvana. The band of the show Before the Sun is Nirvana with two Ends's legally distinct. It's it's very weird and very very funny and Merbanka. I really like that.

I have ones that I think are very important that anyone who watches anime would be like, well, obviously, but I think if you don't watch animated shows, you probably don't know of these, and you absolutely are missing out on some of the greatest pieces of television of all time. And I am I am begging you. You might be like, I don't want to get into anime, and I'm like, just try to watch fully coolly, Like give it a whirl. It's phenomenal. It's really well made. The

animation is incredible, really good story. Yeah. F O O L Y c O O L Y one word? Why cool? Why trying to kind of space? I think fully coolly. I have never even like I feel like even stuff like you know, I don't know what like Narudo or what's the Pirate one, but like I could picture them like I've seen the guy with the straw hat. I've seen the guy with the mirkey tail, like I've seen the Pirate Okay, yeah, I've seen that because they had like

video games and stuff. I've never seen this fully COOLi just has like an abbreviation. Yes, a lot of people call it f L C L. Yes, it's called coly. Uh, there's a lot of what is Throat doing? You're becoming scandi. You're talking about my favorite anime, fool. You've never been speaking it in Swedish when you say it. Look, man, just check out stupid. I don't know why that's making me last so stupid. I can't I can't even do it. It's like I'm trying to

impersonate an act, a famous actor. So when a lot of people think of anime, they think of something you hear your beard when you say it can't do it. Sorry, Mary go on, I'm being like, sorry, Mike's being a maniac. I'm sorry, Mike just can't handle us talking about our anime. Fool stupid. People talk about animes, they usually are thinking of something like Narudo that has like four hundred seasons and ten thousand episodes and it feels overwhelming. Fool Coolly or flcl is one season, oh how

many? How many episodes? Sixty seven? I don't know, but it's built to end okay. So it's got like just an arc. It's not like, oh, well, this is my life now. It's got an arc and it concludes okay, And that's what makes it special. I have a couple if anyone's like, ooh, I like things that are one season. Kill l Kill has one solid ass, incredible season. Gurn Logan has two. That's it, solid ass seasons. It's like, there's a character in gern Logan named Simoon. Do you know him? My dash because I

think it's like one of the best animes of all time. And I also feel I feel very strongly about a full Metal Alchemist brotherhood, So there's a lot. I know that sounds like crazy because you can't have that many favorites. I'm just saying they're all really iconic, and if you don't watch anime, you might be like, I'm not watching that shit. They're really really good. You're doing yourself at a service. This is six episodes long.

Well, the is a six episodes watch watch fully Coolly and see what you think. I'm curious what Bonk thinks as well. I feel like I've had a couple of misses with you guys on shows, but I really like fully Cooly. It looks like a lady having sex with a guitar on the cover. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him it is. It is has one of those like, uh, I'm trying how to describe it if, Mike, have you ever watched Kill Kill? No? Okay, let me try

and describe this one for you. It is a girl whose school girl uniform is alive and gets really hyper short and revealing to show off her powers. Why would that interest me? And she's a cartoon perfect because because I watch a lot of hen Tie, I get it her her like boobies and butt are the entire focal point of the show, and then she kills things with a giant like sword. It's super fun. Visually, it's amazing. Yeah, it doesn't do it for you yet, not really. Here's a cartoon.

And then on her outfit, the eyeballs of the outfit are where her boobs are, and he like looks around and stuff, geez okay, yeah, no, she's not really wearing much. That's not bedazzled. I think it's just it's just a bit like I'm looking for more tasteful stuff. You are not likedled another shower and bedazzled another show. It's not the best show for me, but it's really fucking Funny's peep Show and Jeremy, uh what

again. One of my favorite scenes ever is when Jeremy is like freaked out by how well he's doing during an interview and you hear his inner monologue. He's like, oh my god, you're doing well. You're not ready for this. You got a panic make a crazy face, and then you hear that, and then you see him go like at the guy and then he doesn't get the job. If you like that, have either of you seen

Black Books? It's also dark British comedy Black Boots, Black Boots. Black Books is like a black Books. It's an alcoholic running a bookstore, okay, and it sounds like the most British show. And it's a dark comedy like it's kind it's kind of fucked up, but it's very funny, and I just think it's it's really brilliantly written. And I was surprised that I had found it and watched it, but I watched all of it. I thought it was great. It reminds me of it crowd, you know where.

It's just like a bunch of rap scallions hanging out in the middle of nowhere. So yeah, Black Books is pretty cute. All right. Well, thank you raz from Romania. We've got listen in Romania. That's pretty cool, all right. Last one, Hey, fire Escape, Why is this the only podcast where all the ads are in Spanish? I don't mind having the ads to support, but I don't understand why yours is the only podcast I get ads in Spanish? And then what was this? No,

it's and then there's just no other transition. The second paragraph is what's the worst month of the year. I live in the south and have moderate allergies, so April is rough for me. I hate when my normal two to three sneezes turns into ten plus and visibly seeing pollen fly in the wind. I also feel like as climate change has gotten worse, the change from hives in the fifties, sixties to eighties plus has gotten shorter. I swear the

temp change over two to three days a year. Matthew from Barcelona, I'd says. To be clarify, Matthew, He's not actually from Barcelona. I just thought that'd be funny if I put that there. I don't know why you're getting Spanish ads. I'd prefer that to the English ads I hear. So if you figure out why you're getting them, let me know. I just this this This answer will depend largely, I think on where we live.

Yes, like here Minnesota, it's like February or March, because that's like the deep winter, and it's like near the end where it's like, Okay, it's already been cold for like four or five months. We just want April and May to bring some better weather. And then it's like, oh my god, it's fucking snowing. It's snowing in April, what the fuck? So like kind of that like end of winter. Like I think March is probably the worst for Minnesota. Yeah, I was gonna say March

or February. I am like at my wits end. Portland has a very long rainy season that starts sometimes in November, November, December, January, February by like March, I'm ripping my hair out. I'm like, stop fucking raining now. Usually in February we have something called the February fake out, which is when we have two weeks of summer. It's nuts. It's like upper seventies, sunny and gorgeous, and everyone's like, we did it, everyone, and they're fools because winter isn't over, you, stupid sons

of bitches. It's going to rain and go back to forty for another month, sometimes two months, and usually like even in April it's raining, and then somewhere around May it actually gets nice. And right now we're like we're in it and it's stunning. Yeah, God damn. Like that February March era, I just want to die. And especially like as it gets near the end, every week it goes where it's still kind of shitty. It's like that is a week eaten up of a good spring or a good summer,

Like, goddamn it, this is like crucial time. Yeah, it's also I don't love March. It's also New York. Growing up at Syracuse, especially, the joke is that there's only three seasons. It's winter, summer, and construction. There's always a construction starting when it's semif not winter.

But then again it's just slush and cold. But March is also like compare it to January, for instance, it's a long month and you don't get any days off in March. I always didn't mind it because half my family has birthdays in March, and there's Saint Patti's Day, So I always had fun growing up in March. But now that you know, like I'm not around my family as much, March is long, for sure, I don't. I guess I have a follow up question, what is the most

underrated month? October is nice? I think October is I wouldn't even call it underrated. I guess gets rated exactly where October. Oh my god, let's fuse every month. Oh yeah yeah, wait, wait quick, My My answer is growing up, I did not always love August because that was the end of summer. Vacation. There's not really any holiday going on in August, but like these days, I fucking love August because everybody in New York leaves so we can get reservations fucking anywhere. We have the city like

quote unquote to ourselves. And it's not I mean, you can get those dog days of summer when it's really hot, but like it's the city is wherever you live. If you're in a city, they're probably or even in like suburbs, people are probably going elsewhere. If you're going elsewhere, cool, it's a time to go on vacation. If you're not, then you get way more you know, pikachuoza restaurants. I love August these days. All right, January, if you sit three January three out of ten.

Yeah, yeah, it's low for me. I would also put it, uh yeah, maybe maybe a three because it's like right after Christmas, Like what is January done for me? Yeah? New Year said, the very New Year's is basically a December thing, you know, January. He doesn't get to claim New Years. No, maybe it's a two January as winter ahead. Yet it's the two okay then the reason I think it could be a three not a two is because you usually don't work New Year's Day,

so you're getting a holiday in there. Sure there's also no holidays like suckers. February when is is? M okay, January January President Day, that's one of those is up there? Yeah, I think it's mlkay. Now, I got to look this up because I feel I feel like this is something. MLKA Day is in January, January fifteenth, right in the middle, So you do get three three, three. I'm going five because January

around here nowadays. I don't know if this was not always a case growing up at Syracuse, but in New York that's the first month these days where we get legit snow as opposed to like this pussy shit, I want like real snow. And oftentimes these recent years it's January and we finally get like, yeah, dump on it or not dump on me. Make me wet, all right? Uh? Five? Three? Don't write that down, No, alright, make me wet. Go to February. I don't like

February either. What's going on in February. I'll give it a four because we're getting closed here to the end of winter. And also it's a short one, so it's like you get pasted it a little quicker than like the thirty one of January. February has the February fake out, which I love. So I'm going to give it a four because it's not as shit as January, but February at least has the excuse to go on like a big date night. We do that a lot. Though I hate Valentine's Day.

It's basically, don't like go out on either end of the stupid mentality. And you know what a lot of wrestlers are like, we're up in our prices and serving you like some shit dessert because we know you're trying to fuck tonight. They take advantage of people I don't like Valentine's Day, like, take your date out on a regular ass Tuesday. You don't need the fourteenth of February as an excuse to do it, you piece of shit. Go make a reservation right now. They deserve it. You need to do it

right now before you lose them. Listen to me, make a reservation. Just do it, Just do it. We have date night every single week of our lives. We don't have kids. We both have you know know, we've both got busy jobs every single Thursday of every week we go out on a date. I still like have like just an excuse every once in a while to bring my wife flowers in like out of nowhere, and I do. I still do that all the time. It's kind of like Mother's

Day. Have you seen like how they like they like jack up the prices of like flowers Mother's Day and they're like, you need to do this, you piece of shit. Your mother's like did so much for you. And it's like, just tell your mom you love her all the time. No, I got I get my mom gifts for Mother's Day, all right? March. Wait, I didn't fuse February four. Well, then hurry the fuck up. I just said four March. March is two. I'm going three. No three shamrock shakes. Oh good one. Yeah, I forgot

about patties. Five patties is awesome. Also, my birthday is in March, so you're you're against a day that celebrates uh people go on dates, but you're for one of the biggest corporations in the world releasing a commodity that is like price to get you into the restaurants they have beer. Mike, Okay, hypocrite who is McDonald's. McDonald's great. Yeah, but you're against them commodifying this one date night. But I'm not against anyone commodifying anything.

No, I'm talking to Marry, Okay, just putting out her hypoc hop. There's nothing hypocritical about it. I think you're an idiot. Like Valentine's Day is about commercialization of love, which is ridiculous, commercialization, commercialization of my people. I'm the most commercialized. Can profit off of it. Go for it, honey, I'll give you extra money for green beer, giving money to Ireland. There's no reason I don't care about like most Irish person

in the games industry. I heard this mad because I told you to be nice to your mom more. I'm Marry, be honest. You are anti mother dan is right. I love my mom as Amar yours you like. But Mother dan is right, that's not right. Mary. You and I both know. I'm the most Irish person in the games industry. I'm the best boxer in the games industry. I have a lot of things going for me. I just don't take kindly to Mickey D's stepping on my toes in

Irish. No, I don't know what McDonald I never thought that McDonald was Scottish historically the name I think, I know that Donald's is pleasantly neutral, to be like, we're a little bit of everybody, and they just like, won't they McDonald's. Wait, Mickey from Rocky was Irish, and I realized that that's his first name, and also I don't know if he's Irish, so I don't know where my logic is Donald Mickey mick, Like was his last name? Donald McDonald mick? There? You really do not use

mickey if you're not Irish. Can you imagine her name was Nick Donald's. I know, I feel bad gold all right? So that was March. I'm giving March a five. We're on to April. I like April's a solid seven. It's like spring. That's when we get the stutter step of spring. Kind of these days early April April still sucks here. I'm gonna go back down four. I actually like six. I'm gonna go six.

It does still snow here. I like rainy spring. That's when my wife's birthday is, and I love her and I give her flowers and I go on dates even when it's not Valentine's Day. You fuck from fucking gonna give you one of these next stories. I'm gonna text her and be like, how often does he take you out? I want to know. No, don't, those are unrelated. You just need to take her out just because she deserves it, because she's a queen. Yeah, I know, I

treat her like one. April. What else is going on? Why do I feel like there's something else going on? April? Uh? Is that Fleet Week in New York? Because it's October in San Francisco, WrestleMania. You're probably going to WrestleMania. That happens a lot. I confuse Fleet Week in WrestleMania. April I'll go. I'll go like seven. I like the spring rain and it's a it's a you know, like you're coming out of winter ish sort of. It's so rainy. May Love map eight May guy

a big May Love May. I'm going like eight because it's not I don't like I don't love heat. I like the in between hot. It's too hot in June and July. I think May is really ideal for me. I want to say, May I sleep so well in May and like September when you can have the windows open. Yeah, I'll say I'll say, like I'm saying eight just because I've got a few months coming up that I don't I'm saving my nines for these months coming up. Yeah, I don't

want to. I don't want to rate like Forbidden West and a nine right before Tears of the Kingdom comes out, right, I see what you're saying. Yeah, four game June Birthday. It's summer vacation when you're a kid. It was E three and now Summer games Fest. Bunch of big, dumb fun movies are coming out. It's nice out. June's for me, maybe maybe a ten, nine point five my second favorite month. I think June is really popping for me. I'm going to give it an eight only

because it starts to get kind of hot. It does, but it's I really like it starts getting there. Yeah, yeah, it's getting there. Okay, I love it. It's great. July's eight point five. I'm going out to seven because the heat gets July is gets hot. I love July fourth too, God, I love July fourth. What a wonderful, wonderful Holidayea so fun. If you three years ago, I would have given

it a six. However, now fourth America that much? No, Well, well, so now fourth July has become my family's like big holiday. It used to be Christmas, but it's just harder for us to like combine. But like the in laws, families don't do anything for Fourth of July. So now my parents we all go back to their house fourth July weekend. We camp out intense like surrounding the house and then swim all all weekend and grill. It's just grill. It's like nine to me times, it's

great, but it also is like super hot. I think July because of all the like American traditions, all of the fanfare, and just like the abs of love. Even though it's hot, I gotta I gotta give July and nine. I think it's really a lovely a lovely months. It's a better month. I will say, like if we were to go to like Cape Cod near the ocean, but like landlocked Central New York gets hot in July, but like Cape Cod in July, Well, I've never been to

Cape con Joly's. Maybe it's an eight. I'm between an eight and nine. I really thinking about now. It's real good here in Minnesota, and I have been back for July every day. Yeah, explosions. It's all real good boats and stuff. Yeah, and the books. I'm getting excited about July and Minnesota. Now, yeah, it's gonna be real good. Yeah, July is fucking poppin all right, So August eight. I love August these days. August is nice. I think it gets and August gets

hotter than July. Often here, however, the city is like can be dead in August, and often the beginning of August, we actually do leave as well. But I kind of prefer staying here because then like my neighborhood and our favorite neighborhoods, like, oh, we don't even need a reservation at this place that's usually impossible to get into. And then you get into a bar, and if it's a nice August day, the windows are open, but if it's not, you at least duck in and hide out with

the ac you have a few like mohitos or something. It's awesome. I like August eight. It's just a solid month. It's not it's pretty hot, it's unpretentious. It's it's not like boasting about anything. It doesn't think it's a June, and it knows that, and I respect that. It's like the shennon Blanc of months. As we were all thinking, I was thinking that September. I fucking love September because my mid Oh yeah, when I was a kid. Well, I think when anybody was a kid,

they hated September. It's when school started again. Yeah, now though that's my birthday. The weather's great in September, although again, early September you could still get balls hot. Sometimes. I'm going to give September eight, but nine September is really nice because it's leaf season. That's too. Yeah, when the leafs start to change that. Yeah, we all live in good leaf areas. I would venture to say, well, I don't live in New England, but New England leaf season is pretty nuts here. It's

insane. You just get buried. Where I'm at would be two. Yeah, I'm gonna say it. Ten September. I really love leaf season. I hated September in uh, San Francisco, that was the hot month. Not not anymore. San Francisco doesn't get to talk about months, truely. Yeah, it's the same like all the time. San Francisco is gorgeous. In October, I'm giving a ten. October is a ten. Weather's perfect

You're right, I got too excited. October is the ten. Yeah, I think that's my favorite month now, and I'm not like so much fun Halloween it's funny. Yeah, the weather's like it's like it can be seventy and gorgeous and then like once the sun starts to go down and can go down to like sixty five and then it's like a fire outside fire. But you could also wake up and it's like a sunny morning and like seven to

go on a bike ride and yeah, fucking wedding or fucking wedding. The weather was like the most oh, sublime night I've ever seen in my fantastic Yeah. Perfect, That's a ten of the season. I like November quite a bit too. November drops down to about a seven point five for me. Yeah, November gets a little chilli. It is nice, but I'm gonna have to give November a seven. And I'm not a big Thanksgiving guy. There's just too much weird food that I never liked, you know,

I didn't like I'm not getting presents in the food. There's all this food I'm expected to eat getting. Yeah, I'm getting candy. July I get to blow things up and eat hot dogs. You know. Christmas Birthday, I get the presents. Thanksgiving is like, oh good, I have to go to someone's house and they're gonna they're gonna all give me shipped for like just eating a roll. I like November because that's that's when like fall really

kicks in, and I love Fall. I'll go eight and I like I we got to host Thanksgiving last year, which was the maybe one of the best Thanksgiving me my life. It was fucking posting it. You would think it would be annoying, like doing a lot of the cleaning and whatnot. I mean people everybody pitched in, but it was so nice to not leave our home. Sure, oh it was awesome. I'll go quiet. Oh wow, wait December November. Oh November, Oh five is so low.

Seven December is so high. I think it's Christmas. The lights on people's houses. You get like at least a week off of work because they just have to or you're a monster. Like the the atmosphere, like the the feeling and that you know I'm talking about the most it's got the most distinct personality of any month feel and they treat each other is better. In December, you get gifts you give gifts, it's a nine. It's so good, I'd say nine. Yeah, I'll go nine point five for December.

I really like December. It's a busy one. It can be overwhelming, especially when New Year's comes around. It's like a fuck stuff. But yeah, actually I'm gonna lover it a bit because the last I don't know, like growing up and then or even until into college, people are like, hey, remember, like the holidays can be a stressful time for some people, Like you know, I'm not talking about like you know, like how it can be a big trigger for depression. I totally get that. That

sucks. I'm talking about it's like, hey, like adults have a lot of responsibilities around holidays, and as a kid and teenager in like college, dudents like fuck you you know. Yeah. And then now I'm getting to the point where i' was like, oh yeah, the travel weird, especially after Thanksgiving just happened. Could stack up. That's the thing. It's a

tough one. It's a huge family specifically with what we do because like I think about this and like, yeah, we're coming off of Thanksgiving first week of December. I'm always doing the Game Awards the second week. It seems like we've been doing our Game of the Year stuff. To see Matt maroony filled hell whole of a house. Absolutely, this is really nice Christmas. It's all very good stuff. Like I love the TGAs. I love doing our game Game of the Year. We've got to do Giant Bombs. Game

of the Year. I got Christmas, got New Year's. There's just so much in terms of bad. Yeah, you get a week off it's and then a week before Christmas, like, oh fuck, I have not gotten a single gift outside of like it is. Or I get my gifts usually in the summer. I know that sounds crazy, but I usually pocket my gifts for months in advance. I start the process usually not always because it

depends on if I'm doing anything cool that year. But like this was years ago, but years ago, when I went to TGS, I bought every Christmas gift in Japan because I was like, you're all getting something cool from Japan, and like this year, if you know, like whenever I travel, it's like you're all getting something from wherever I travel. I love doing that. I think it's really fun. And then I don't stress in December because it's like I already got everybody, and it's something. It's a good

idea. I just I guess I gotta find a summer when I don't have. I feel like the summer sometimes is even busier. Maybe it's July. It will be a good time. So I've got five trips. I have like five trips in July. It's I think July might actually be the only month in twenty twenty four I know were. I mean, we're going to again my parents first weekend, simple train up and down. But outside of that, I don't think we're That's the only month I think without a flight

this year. Jeez. But yeah, December is really good. But I think are my number one is October. Yeah, and then I think May, yep, June, September, August, December. I'll probably not say December yet. No, Oh, December is higher up than I put it. I don't know. Some people you know put it in the top four. It's in my top twelve. I said June and October, June, October, in May, if I had to pick a top three. Thank you Matthew from Barcelona. I think he says he in the South. I

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If you wait until after fourth of July, you will not get the discount unless we forget to turn off the discount, in which case you will have it auto, have it set to turn off. Oh has an auto set? God, it's only good for summer, the summer months. Okay, well that's great, Dan. What can people do with those stars and ratings on different platforms and what I mean? They can give us the good ones. I don't even know if that matters anymore for podcasts, but if you're

bored, I mean, just give us the good stars. That'd be good. I don't know if it helps us, but Time's day. Our gifts can be five stars. Do it now, don't do it, don't wait for February. That is so boring of you? How dare you? Five stars? And Dan is right? Just a bunch of reviews to say Dan is right? No, don't put the review in there. Yeah, I remember. Just comment on anything Mary says on the internet and tell the end

of time what the words? Dan is right? Thank god? Like social media is and so exhausting, had all these boobs in My reply is just call somebody is right? So I am right now? Who are you keep that up? Folks? What is going on? I just I went to Twitter to respond to something you said, and there's just two like Scandinavian children leading pigs at each other with these batons. But there is this Eurovision something from it. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't

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doesn't always make the uh doesn't make the cut on our normal channels. Well, anyway, that was episode eighty one, Happy May What did we there. We're in the middle of a good one. Yeah, we're in the middle of a good one. I won't be at SGF. I'm getting ready for two weeks in France. It's gonna be fucking sick. Sounds amazing, It's gonna be fucking sick. It's gonna be so sick. I'm gonna be waiting burrito trucks at three in the morning after long shows and made Dan and

grabbing Manatti just getting a bunch of burritos. That is so paris I know. Yeah, Oh, that's that's so sant. I can't wait for burrito trucks. It's gonna be sick. By joining, that's Spanish, thank you for joining. It's been a fun episode, you know what I mean? It was fun fine, so vehement. I just have to yell at any moment, so it is. It's just like it's so triggering if you yell over it to justify that it's not me. Want everyone to know that I

am I am in control. I don't I'm a control yea. We will be back, literally, what's happening. We will be back June third. I think I will be here. I mean, I won't be here when that publishes. All right, thank you ever Rady for joining. We'll talk to you in two weeks. Do say close up with my name? Do it like with Dan Riikert and Mary. We'll be back in two weeks with Dan Riikert Yes, and Mary yay. I don't usually close off with names. I know I wanted it, I deserved it. Okay. I don't

agree with O goodbye, good bye. He's like a little trauma. No,