Fire Escape Cast #79

Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It is episode eighty nine. I'm Mike, your host is Always here with Dan. Hi, that's me. I'm also here. And Mary, you did it again. I didn't mean to sound disappointed. I meant to sound like a calming like, oh, there's Mary. Him Mary, go up and again, try again, here, tride again. Here's always with Dan. Yeah, Hey, what's up? And Mary? Mike, that was Mary, what's up? I thought you were going to use the fart? So I feel

fine. Let's let's here run it back and met Mary cash. Yeah. Speaking of stinks, So I don't believe I'm a stinky guy. I've never been accused of being a stinky guy. You could tell me if I was. And also, I'm not a sweaty guy. And so even when I'm doing like cardio and stuff like I do long bike rides, I do a lot of like peloton biking stuff and everything and yoga, I don't sweat much.

And even if I do, I don't stink. Would there be a reason that in this last month, since I started training for this half marathon, I've noticed that I am like I need to be on top of it because like I'm noticing like my stink and I never but I was doing cardio before. I was like sweating and stuff before to a degree? Are you

more prone to sweat now sweating? No? Like all run like I did like a five k a few days ago, and like I wasn't really sweaty afterwards, but like I stink and I was like, and I don't notice that bike ride diet is I guess I've been drinking less over the last few weeks. Just been eating my same like mail delivery food stuff, nothing crazy, fairly healthy over. I was in Philadelphia for a week and oh go on, I was, I ate several cheese steaks and now like half of

what I drink is prime water. I don't know what that is. You're drinking prime and you're wondering why you stink because it's not water. It's coconut water. It's okay, look at the ingredients. I read articles from nutritionness. What is what? Oh it's co water. Well. The unpleasant part is it's owned by Logan Paul, So let's just skip let's skip past that. He's not the guy in the lab putting beakers and stuff together. He's just the right one that got Yeah, it's uh, it's very good.

I love her. He said it's coconut water. It's ten percent coconut water. I mean, is that not coconut water? Yeah, but lots of things can contain. I'm good. And then have a bunch of ship that makes your butt stink. I bet coconuts aren't ten percent. Dan. If you made that drink the Jungle Bird tonight and you swapped out like ten percent of the Kompari for coconut juice water, I would not call the drink coconut water. The inclusion of ten percent not making coconut Okay, Well, I've

been looking at the ingredients and stuff. I've been into this. Now and turn this into prime. Guys, you are into it. J grub Jan got into it a WrestleMania with me. We tried all the play. Oh grub got his kids into it today. A sticky thing. I don't think. I think it's a running thing. The running would make more sense that Prime is good for you. I've been talking about it so much to people, think of to make it clear. It's not a mad spot. I

just love this ship. Now, wait, hold on, Mary, what else isn't it Okay, twenty calories, coconut water, b vitamins, antioxide and electual lights caffeine free. But that's hold on. You can get all this from food. I agree. No citric acid. I don't trust food associated with Logan Paul, I hate this too. I hate it, but I love it first. This has got a ship ton of chemis in it. Yeah, chemicals are great, so to starbards in crime. OJ's all of the news dance having a great week, so superlos. I might be

wrong. Let me look this up. A big OJ fan, Dan Simpson is probably actually feel he's dead to start this bit. It's an artificial sweetener. Yeah, I know. I mean most of what I need is artificial sweet Mary. Did Dan call you crying last week when OJ died? Because he called me, Uh, he was weeping and I was like, Dan, what is wrong? I think I'll never heard another great norm joke about

him. Yeah that was normally not OJ. God, that joke that Jim Downey was talking about the lucky murdering cat or cat the stabbing cap one's good. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, Hey be careful that that's my lucky stabbing cap. Have you ever seen any hosted the sb Awards and uh, he was like, oh, you won the Heisman. He's on stage hostings like, oh yeah, this guy won the

Heisman. Don't and be proud of that. And they can never take that away from you unless you murder your wife and a waiter and the Kim Grippy in the crowd, and Kim Grippy is just like, hey, like, don't show me right now, and a waiter as an afterthought. Yeah, so Prime is your new obsession. I mean, I'm drinking a lot. I'm gonna I'm gonna have a couple tonight. Yeah, I've had like five

today. Maybe you are legend. Symptoms of Superlose can include floating gas, diarrhea, nausea, skin irritations, runny nose, anxiety, anger moods, depression, and stink butt shovel poles of superlos every day Since before Logan Paul was fucking alive, it ain't the super Loose, And now you're paying him to drink Superlos. I'll you're just sitting there drinking Prime and running and stink sweating everywhere, and you're like, I have no idea where this stink is

coming from. And the only one thing you've changed is that you no longer drink water. I did go to Philadelphia, the city of Philadelphia for your steak. Yeah, this is it's a nice city. It's a nice city. Mostly. We'll say that the inclusion of dairy into your diet could also be a thing. And if you're eating a lot of Philly cheese steaks, that's a lot of But again, I'm eating ninety pounds of cheese every day for my entire life, you know, so like that's not a new variable,

are you? Maybe your body can just no longer process all of time. Let's just be dying. Yeah, here's a question, are you because can I assume you're running more often than you ever have before? Uh? Yeah, only at least in a while ten years ago. Going to the last half, are you, how diligent are you with like laundry, with your workout clothes? Uh, with the workout clothes, I'll get a few

in on some shorts. Definitely run. Maybe that's I'm saying, Maybe that's where the stink, that's where you're associating the stink because you're done with running, or you're just putting these clothes on and they're smelling. No It'll be even like after I showered like a few hours ago, and then it's just like I'm just noticing. It's not like a weird It's just like it's just that underarm smell that like I don't ever notice, and now I'm like,

wait, what the fuck is that? But go around. I'm this is probably obvious, but like when you're in the shower, you're getting in there. I'm getting right in there. Yeah, you're getting into all the crannies. Oh yeah, cranny's Yeah, all right, I assumed. So I just think it's worth ticking all the boxes to see what's going on here, or maybe doubling up on the on the deodorant and stuff. Every day, I'm to be running a lot more. Okay, yeah, I mean I've

actually we talked about this last time. I've also been running pretty consistently five times a week, which is really good for me because I do not like running. And I don't know about you, but when I'm done running, I am bad. And I don't shower after a run. After a run, I just like change clothes and get right back into my world, like

I just go back to work or whatever. I lay on the floor for a bit like I start stretching and then I'll just like like do one of those things you put your like behind you and laid back on it, and then I'll just lay there for a while. Uh huh yeah, or after do you? I mainly do like the the you know, the what do you call it? Not explosive, but the movement like jumping Jackson stuff before I run and then the stretching heavy stuff after the run is what I've been

doing. Lay on the floor normally instead of showering. Well it's more of the lawn than the floor, but yeah, that should be it. I'm kidding on like in the lawn that I couldn't. I'm allergacy grass solved. I think I'll be fine. I think maybe, yeah, maybe I'll just switch out the clothes more often. I think it'll be all right. But time, no, no, I can't. I can't think. I wouldn't think of it absolutely quit anything before Brian, what do you like about it

so much? Weird? I'm drinking candy and it's good for you. It's not good for you. What part isn't? Superlose is not good for you, I know, but it's not hurting you. It's probably like you know, like, so this is the thing that a lot of people are doing. Now. Have you seen there's like a huge rise of non soda but their sodas. Yeah, it's not a commercial during the super Bowl where it's

like better. Yeah. Yeah, there's a change in marketing for the new gen which is anti pop. So like back then, diet coke or diet pepsi was the ultimate form of beverage. It was diet, so it was like marketed as good for you or healthy, and they would have all these like attractive celebrities drink it, and it was like diet coke whatever, like that's the drink of choice. That's like your mama's drink. Now it's superlose,

you know. Yeah, like fake alternative sugar in a beverage that's marketed as healthy, and they usually do it with the form of we've shoved an antioxidant in there, bitch sure, and and then they like market it as like non soda. But it's very similar as a diet coke in the sense of like its health or its value to you. So no, diet coke

doesn't hurt you. Should you drink six diet cokes in a day? Probably not so I'm here, Like if I'm Coca Cola or I'm the Pepsigo company, I would start advertising hard towards children and just say some bullshit about how it's healthy and just go straight for the kids. Or like you know, if you're like a tobacco company or something, just get those kids going on it. You got to make it seem like it's candy, it's good for you. And I think that's the path to riches. Yes, that's exactly

what they all do. And as long as you don't get caught specifically targeting children. Well, it was like a casino and I just want to get kids into gambling that's illegal because kids aren't allowed to gamble. It's the same thing that the cigarettes company got sued for Jewel. Jewel that fucked because they went they marketed too heavily towards kids, and they were very successful at it

because they had things like lemonade and like blueberry. Yeah so smart. Yeah, And the case was, ye, monetize them, that's that's right. They did, and they were so good that the government stepped in and sued them. And so I think jewels like completely ruined from that. You don't they flew too close to the son. You want to like market to children in an unhealthy way, but like discreetly enough where you don't get in trouble.

Like Joe Cammel, Yeah he did. There was a cool camel with sunglasses, and a kid would look at Joe Cambal'll be like, I want to be like that camel. Then they start to earth. Would they even have a cartoon character like you would Tony the Tiger unless they were going after children. That's the perfect example, Dan. I mean, yes, fast food is super unhealthy for kids, but that's extremely marketed towards kids. Right.

Well, it's not illegal for a child to have a burger, it's illegal for a child to smoke a jewel like tobacco, and it's illegal for them to be at the casino. I'm just like, I'm imagining a four year old. This is an untapped market is children and gambling, let's get into it. But I do in a way, we've got new merch for all you toddlers out there, cigarette holders with the fire escape logo motter as Thompson's cigarette things for kids extend straight off it's licorice, so file I do

think, you know, I wonder what our demos are. I suspect I'm a gambling woman, and I do suspect that I have a good gauge of what they are, and it's not children. Sometimes advertisers will ask me, and I just guess, and uh, I usually guess they're not listening. They're not listening. Yes, Also, I don't know where to look to find it, so I would give them the normal lemperts. But I don't

know, I said, an educated guess. I do say, approximately, it's like twenty five to forty five, twenty five to forty five gamers, enthusiastic gamers. Yeah, dudes, largely enthusiastic gamers. Contains twenty percent women. Now how much super loose? Ten percent? Enough that you think that it counts a super low stock? Do you own? Can you buy stock in super loops? No? Yah, don't buy stock in anything, well, not in superlows like it wouldn't be called like s u see, but

like the company that you, oh, Child would do it. Okay, stock and casinos, and then we'll start vamp. We'll start vamped about Child Casinos every episode to drive the price up, and then we'll sell the stock and then we'll buy stock and kill child cigarettes and then we talk those child cigarettes once they all get addicted, sell the money, and then you know what we go for at that point, Uh, baby baby caskets as good.

Then we get into the baby casket business. Jesus Christ will have very short little crabs tables and stuff and fun like Christoper Price chairs and you can rent like little power wheels to go from like the three card poker table to the crabs table. The levers on the the slow machines are just lollipops. Yeah, that you can just lick. But there's like no sanitary stuff at all going on there that we don't swap them out. It's doesn't taste good

any country where this is legal? Uh? Is it just us that makes it illegal to do this? No, I'm certain there's some country were Campbell child casina. I'm going this summer lolly pop summer machines, cigur a slot machine right itself, sanitized bluey machines are legal. Uh. Slot machines by country came up Wikipedia. Australia is the first entry. Oh it's because it starts with nay. That makes Australia is notorious for not allowing it. You

know, Australia is actually really protective of their children. Did you know, like they're cereal that you can't I in Australia because Australia is like there's too much sugar in here. Oh and they did the like leopardad had to change its cover because the gore stuff and everything. Yeah. Oh, I mean when you shoot Red in Australia, they just disappear. It's such a they've

like completely ruined that game. But but I'm talking about like Cereal, So like when you get Captain Crunch, you can't get Captain Crunch in Australia because they've deemed it unhealthy. Good, that's so fun. I'm typing in where can I gamble if I'm a kid? Oh? I didn't, Okay, But like also where gambling age by state? Amazing? We like one of the unhealthiest countries. Ever, I think that correlates to all the artificial shit we haven't food. Yeah, but it's also the place of freedom. Like

I don't want to be told I can't have Captain Crunch. I'm with the America doesn't want to be told that she can't have her guns, that she can't like Ronald Nixon, she damn wants to like, OJ, you guys, you're true patriots, true patriots. I always carry a gun in one hand, my nick flag in the other, and I like Captain Crunch. Unfortunately, the lowest age you can gamble in America is gambling on Bengo in Maine. What age sixteen? We've got to go seven eight, I think

is the way to go. Let's go to Maine and bet on Bingo. Yeah. Make the Bengo casino for children in Maine. Yeah, okay, sick, but there's got to be cigarettes, no hand sanitizer and jewels. Yeah, they can get jewels. There are do you guys do you enjoy gambling? I have enjoyed it when I did it. I haven't done it in forever. It was one of those things where it's like when I started going, I was like, man, there's a lot of fun. And I kept winning, and I kept winning. I was like, I'm having

fun with my friends. I'm getting free drinks and money. And then I had like my first couple of times where I left with like, you know, I didn't have a lot of money back then, and I'd be like two hundred dollars. I remember one time there's probably the last time I like seriously tried to gamble, I was down two hundred dollars, probably like twenty three years old. I go in, I lost two hundred dollars almost immediately felt like shit, and I was like, okay, wait, I could

get that back. Okay, I'll just say two hundred out of the ATM, put it on red un Roulette, I get it back, and then I just leave and I lost that, And so I remember that drive home. You know, four hundred bucks back then was like critical for me. That was like a good check of rent and games. Yeah, and I was like, you know what, this feeling right now is not worth the

good feelings when I won. And also I realized that, you know, there are people in my family closed to me that have like struggled with gambling stuff in the past. And it's like, all right, I might have this in me, and I don't really want to flirt with it much. So like I did it once my wedding in Vegas, I threw a few hundred on a craps table either once when I was in a Ruba a couple years ago. I mean, I'll do it if I'm ever in a casino,

I'll throw a couple hundred on a crap table or something. But like, I'm not ever going to be a regular gambler. I don't think too risky. Yeah, I don't just want to, you know, dip my toe into far in the oops. I have a gambling problem. You know. My dad loves to gamble. It's what he does. It's his vacation.

And every year he always saves up a certain amount of money. And because he gambles so much, he gets like the extra diamond version where they're like, well, we'll cover your hotel and we'll cover your meals, and he just goes and he stays for free at a casino and then he gambles and he gambles, and he usually statistically, This is what I find fascinating about, like legit gamblers is statistically, even though the house always wins,

he's very likely with the amount that he gambles, he always plays the same game. He always plays like poker on a machine machine poker, yeah, video pooker, And the amount that he plays usually twice a year, he hits it big. Usually twice a year he gets either a royal flush or he gets like four aces or whatever, and he pulls like like a two thousand dollars hand that goes back into the amount he's allowed to spend. If he had the ten and four joker, then he yeah, it had eaten

that more. That's right, Oh yeah yeah. And he usually like basically calls it at the end. He's never up at the end of the year. It's not like he's like, hey, I made ten thousand dollars gambling this year. He always spends probably three to four thousand dollars gambling every year. But if he hits it big, he can he can throw eight thousand dollars gambling because he always gambles his winnings and that's like his thing. And I think I got that in me too. Yeah, I have that in

me too. I usually set mine or like way lower stakes because I am afraid. My stakes are usually five hundred dollars, and so I'll be like, when this five hundred is gone, I'm out of here, and I consider every penny of that five hundred just like whatever, don't worry about it.

But we had TwitchCon in Vegas last year, and there was a girl from our sales team who was like, sit down with me and play blackjack, and I was like, I don't play blackjack, and she was like, I will show you how to play, and she taught me everything. She told me what to do for every hand, and I walked out of there like with fourteen hundred dollars. It was crazy in token, like in those little chips and it felt so And you know what else I did.

I kept like giving the chips to a person and then they would massage me while I was playing. Oh wow, so they would just do it four chips they different, right, they did it, yes, with a cigarette. Yeah. I love gambling and Maine I had what I would consider probably the best case scenario with gambling. The first time I went, I bet twenty dollars in blackjack and I lost. I said, oh, this sucks, and I have not gambled since. Ye, it's just kind of like

an asshole. After about doing I played poker with friends. Were like the table stakes like though small, the you know, the buy in was like twenty bucks, but I have never I don't count that, like I'll have over for poker. And it's like if it's a tournament where you're playing for five hours and it's like a twenty dollars buy in. It's like that's not

that's twenty dollars for like a night of fun with your friends. That's yeah, And there are certain moods them in when I enjoy the vibe of a casino setting and I'll go and hang out and go to the bar and whatnot.

But like gambling, from what I know, is not a vice that's anywhere in my extended family and my family like you know, the disease I should say, like, but in terms of people who enjoy gambling, I actually don't know, but yeah, it's it's never I can put I can imagine the rush of winning a lot of money, but I just I I maybe think more about the negatives, which I guess is healthy. And I'm not trying to bread because it's not like I don't have other problems, but

like, yeah, I don't know. No, everyone's got their stuff, and like the gambling thing is like very directly in my lineage, and so I just kind of feel like if I had flirted with it, it's like,

ah, that's could go bad. So probably not got it. Yeah, but if there was a casino with a bunch of children, they'd be easy to beat at like poker, or it might be that thing where it's like, you know, if you have a friend that's never played and they said at the poker table, and you can't really because like they're not following normal logic, so I can't. Like I would really hate to lose poker to a child. I did have. There was a sixteen year old over

here. It's a Jeff Cork brought a son over for poker a few months ago. He started with that context for poker, put your money on to get your parents' money. This smells kid. Three cigarettes all you can smock. I think sixteen is too smart or like Jeff Cork's kid was too smart, because like I think, if you're going to take children's money, it should be dumber and younger. I think it's sixteen. You can play poker.

That is not crazy. You can. It's pretty smart. You can be a chess champion at sixteen, right like you can get it done. So, yes, you can be absolutely spanked by a sixteen year old. I think that would be very embarrassing to lose significantly at poker to a child. Game. Yeah, like at Backlar's kid beat me at poker. I would just move to another country. You're already ruining his life. Don't play.

Don't beat him in poker. He shouldn't be embarrassed. I beat him a poker because I should beat him at poker because he's an idiot kid and I'm a grown man with a job and I went to college. True, I agree, Mary, you're shaking your head. You haven't met this kid. Sucks. I just don't think you can address children like that. I can, and I will, and you can't stop me. I can't stop

you, but I will shake my head disapprovingly. I loved he. Have you told you a story about the time Jeff and his family came over here to hang out for a night and oh yeah, yeah. Twenty seconds in Dylan sat at our breakfast bar in the kitchen while we were all just kind of catching up. He just like interrupts by saying, I'm bored. Yeah, he sucks. That's right, awesome. I love it. This is how Backlart teaches his child to act at a stranger's house. Power pees.

No. I liked it, and then he made me download Retown. He's gonna be in jail in six years. Jesus. I think children are when they like mixed it up. He should be. I had a kid come over a couple like a month ago. I had a friend who was driving to California, so they stopped for the night and they had a kid. I want to say twelve, that's my guest nineteen. But functional, you

know, And what do you mean my functional? Yeah, like when they're like five and they don't even have like awareness that they're alive yet, and they're just like a twelve girl can have a conversation. That's right. Yeah, I think five year olds know they're alive. Do you know about death? When was your last memory? Right? Like, it's not when you're five, it was way before when I was like four, I was four.

Yeah. Yeah, shitting your pants is not a memory that holds water, hen because I was like twenty six the last time I shited my pants. I'm talking about like being cognitively aware and like knowing enough that if I was like, here's twenty bucks, can you go to the store and get something, they could do it. A twelve year old knows they're going to die someday. A five year old night not sure that's fair correct, Although I'm self aware of hell, five year olds are going to die someday.

You're going to die one day, Timmy. Anyway, this kid comes over and he's like, I'm showing them the place, and I'm like, here's our basement. We have a row machine. And then we go back upstairs. I'm getting everybody a drink and the kid's like, I want to row and I was like, well, you can use the row machine if you want to, and he went down. I mean, he's twelve, I hope not oh twelve. Oh okay, okay, this isn't. First of all, this is not Mike Maharty like two years ago. This is this

is a fresh, normal twelve year old. He went downstairs as far as I'm awhere, and he rode for forty five minutes while I hung out with his parents. And then he came upstairs and went tired, I'm going to bed, and I was like it's nine and he was like it's past my bedtime. And I was like, well, yeah, I guess go to meds. And he washed his face, he brushed his teeth, and he took his ass to bed. And then, first of all, forty five minutes is a long row session. Fifteen that's a lot. And he was

completely like he was taking care of himself. Nobody bothered him. And I like kind of looked at the parents like this, isn't that weird, and they were like, he's a weird kid, but he doesn't bother anybody. He wanted to work out, and he wanted and then he was tired. He worked himself out and then went to sleep. It's probably one of my sound prettavorite child well adjusted. Yeah that's me at twelve. Holy shit, I agree. I was a nightmare when I was twelve. I was like,

I don't give me attention. I will ruin this night for everybody, never working out, staying up till three in the morning every single night, Like his row machine is so sticky. Yeah, when I was twelve, I don't know how you would make that work. I was probably trying to figure out how how to like have sex with most of the things in my basement when I was most twelve year old. Yeah, yeah, I started boys. Yeah, I was not fucking row machines when I was growing up.

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first leaf dot com slash fire Escape to get your first box. That's try first Leaf dot com slash fire Escape. Try first Leap dot com slash fire Escape. Daniel, Yeah, you've been playing Tales of Canzera Jao mm hmm. But you're goddamn prime down and to talk about tails. Oh we're recording that. Okay, Yeah, we're just talking. You're not going to get drink, Just so you know, I'm not I'm no grub. I have willpower. I've drank so many things that you have told me to drink.

Yeah, I know, because I have good taste. Oh I don't drink Prime. Sorry, I forgot my Prime. So once once Prime has a Beaujeleet flavored drink, then yeah, then we'll talk Prime alcohol. Yeah they should do Yeah, yeah, doing so fight to do white anymore, I will get a headaches. I could drink three bottles of it. Show fight so terrible. Sounds like Dan's impression of his father. No, No, that's my impression of my dad doing impressions and mocking voice for me. Yeah,

yeah, I love, I'm married. That was me doing Dan doing his dad doing Dan. That's correct. Yes, yes, Tales of Canzera Zoo. I think we are a Metroidvania friendly podcast, aren't we we are? Yeah? Everything, Well, I won't make a holid night joke. And it was a tough tough week for you. Very sure, okay, So yeah, Tales of Zarah it is. It's okay, So I'm liking it. It's good. It is one of those things where it starts out and I can instantly tell I like the movement, the platforming it's very snappy.

It starts you with a double jump, which, look, the moment you get a double jump in a Metroidvania is always so great, but sometimes you just get it from the beginning. It's like, you know what, fuck, yeah this this, this feels good. It kind of has a or type of it's very saturated. It looks like or I'm looking at it right now, good looking. Yeah, it's got a good look. I think it is definitely going more for a story type of experience, in a

narrative experience, than it is like super challenging exploration heavy. I mean, there is like, oh, you can go down the mines and go this way or that way, but there's not this like labyrinth like giant maps that a lot of the genre entries that I like have. And also I do think the proximity the Prince of Persia doesn't do it any favors because all of this is like the platforming is good, the combat is good, but having just played Prince of Persia a few months ago, I think that really raised

the bar. And also the quality of life stuff like the memories and all that, even though there's less backtracking and stuff in this game, like it seems like I'm just going forward and following the story, so maybe you don't need that as much. But there are a lot of like combat arena type things where it's like, Okay, we're gonna wall this place off and we're just gonna drop in waves of enemies, and there's not that many different types.

I'm only like three hours in, i would say, but there haven't been a huge variety of enemies. The combat. It's interesting in that you have these two masks that like, okay, here's like the sun mask and the Moon mask, and the Sun one is you know, shooting arrows and it's melee focused. I'm sorry, it's not arrows. That's like a bonus ability. It's more melee focused. It's like light and heavy melee for the

Orange one. And then the Blue one is you can shoot arrows that kind of they just recharge on their own and there's like an active reload thing like gears, and it's all snappy. It's fun. You can you know, jump in mid air and shoot off a bunch of arrows at a flying enemy land you know, switch to your sun thing, do a watch of that,

juggle all that. It's all good, but I do think that when it's coming off of Prince of Persia, which you know it's it's not the game's fault that another game came out that is better recently, but you know, the game on its own is good. But Prince of Persia was great, and I'm not loving the combat, Like it just doesn't feel as deep as I think I went from the genre from every element of like exploration to

combat. The platforming is probably the best it's got. It's got a lot of fun, like you know, kind of wall running and while jumping, not while running, it's more while jumping, but like you get this ability where you can freeze water, so like a waterfall becomes a thing that you can kind of wall jump up and things like that, and it all feels very snappy and good. It's it's very generous with the checkpoints, so challenge

wise, it's not too crazy. It does some really smart things. I'm playing on PlayStation, so, like you, the Orange Mask has a thing where it's like if you swipe and then new time your next hit perfectly, it'll do super damage or whatever, and it'll do like the audio cue on the controller speaker, which I normally hate, like ninety nine percent of controller

speaker stuff because it's just so obnoxious and gimmicky to me. But it's cool that, like you see the glint on the weapon and you hear it in your controller, it's like you can kind of get that timing down with that. So it is doing some smart things and I think everything that's doing is good. I just don't think it is exactly what I want or expect from a Metroidvania nowadays. Again, it's it's narrative heavy, and you know that's

not really my thing. It seems very earnest. It sounds like it was the creator made it to kind of deal with his like he lost his father and this was kind of like you know, dealing with you know, grief and the afterlife and things like that, and so it does seem like there's

a real personal touch to this game. But yeah, I'm I'm just very much one of those Symphony of the Night blood Stained Prince of Persia, like give me a big ass map, give me a bunch of weird enemies to kill, bunch and bunch bunch of upgrades, and Persia had so much fucking story. I don't know if like that is the one that is like The Golden Child. Remember how much text you had to go through there was?

There was, Yeah, and I didn't like it. That was definitely the weakest part of that game to me, that that's just constantly bopping through that text. But the thing is it had all that other stuff going on though, like it had a reason like, Okay, on the other side of this conversation, I'm going to get a Killer upgrade or something like that, and here it's like I feel like I'm going between story things with some like light platforming and combat challenges and things like that. So it's, uh,

it's good. I would not say it's great. And yeah, I look it up, you know, looking like the story stuff and everything, but seems like something that would resonate with you. It might have something price point though, because like you know, I never know. Let me the reason I don't Tales of Can praise. Let me see the reason I ask, you know what Persia isn't cheap? You know, this is seventeen ninety nine on Steam pre order and says that I'm PlayStation as well, twenty twenty dollars.

Looks like if you don't pre order it, yeah, twenty honestly, and how much is Prince of Persia. I swear it was forty? Was it? I look new Crown lost crowd that was fifty on switch at least for Aye. There you go. Maybe that's an interesting thing. I should be aware of what I'm talking about. Your lucky I was here. Yes, I always think about that with prices and never buys anything she doesn't need to, Batchel, I always think about my wallet. Correspondents curiously they call

me money Mary, and I'm always thinking about it. Here the Pire escape cast money Mary. How much is it? Mary? It's seventeen dollars, which is a pretty good deal. It's seventeen dollars. And as a reminder, I would not eat a piece of turd for one hundred thousand dollars. I can't trust her with money. Then, definitely that's true that you can quote me on that seventeen dollars and I would not eat a turd. So Dan does that change it? Are you saying like it's better value than Honestly,

that's like for seventeen ninety nine. If I was just someone who just wanted like a Metroidvania fix, like this is good enough for that. I it feels almost like like a we're not insulting or talking down like, oh it's good enough, it's good, it's it's a good little like it's it's a have to The dollar value actually absolutely matters, for sure. I don't think that's the only way to talk about a game's value though. No, no, no it's not, but it's it's important in the context of it.

Yeah, I'll put it this way. Quality, Like if I were reviewing these back up the game and former scale, this would probably be a seven point five, whereas Prince of Persia was like a nine point five plus. Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean Prince of Persia is phenomenal. But I actually remember I think the reason I said that is because I remember when we were trying a hardcore sell people on Prince of Persia and talking about

how good it was. I had people tweet at me and be like, yo, that's fifty bucks, and I had to justify it and be like, oh, really, I do think it's worth it. I think it's worth it too. But that's like the context, right, is that like for a person to spend fifty dollars, it has to be not only a

good game. You start talking about things like length, and I know that not everybody is like length is super important when it comes to it's the quality, right, not girth is more mean Anyway, there is a breaking point where if the game is like ten hours long, it's fifty bucks. Is

a hard cell? Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, yeah, but I also, yeah, Prince of Persia, despite being if some people are like, oh, it's fifty dollars, I think it's probably my game of the year so far, and have to look at what's actually coming out this year, like, yeah, because Prince of Persia is very high for me. I think it's a very good game. I like just a

transition. I played pepper Grinder again and I beat it, and I want to talk about it again because pepper Grinder is fifteen dollars and I don't think I really processed that that's also an extremely affordable game for what it is. And the first time you and I talked about pepper Grinder, we talked about how it is pretty good. Right, It's a platformer with some combat.

It requires precision. It's not an easy game by any means, and it got so complicated or like so kind of the difficulty spike hit so hard. I was thinking about quitting and was like thinking about calling it because it was just getting a little too much for me. Well, the other day I decided to go back to it because I do like the game. I think it's really neat and I beat it, and I just want to say I do actually think it's pretty fucking good for the price point actually changed my tune

on it a little bit. I think Pepper Grinder trains you for one of the most epic like final boss fights of any game I have ever played. And I was I was like in tears when I beat this game. It was a very difficult boss fight, but everything that you're learning, it's kind of programming you to be like, you do need to do this because the final boss fight is going to beat your ass and it and he did.

It's so rewarding to be able to finish this game. I love a good boss fight like that that it's not just like, you know, like a lot of great games have a boss fight, but you fight it like every other boss or use the Master Sword or whatever. I like ones that teach you a ton of different mobility things and attack things and Perry's and all these things you have to keep in mind. And then they have a really great boss fight at the end where it's like, all right, now, show

that you know how to use all that you know. That's really good A game pulls that off. I don't think it uses all of the different moves in the final boss fight, but I think what I'm saying is is like all the things that I was like, Oh, this is like really tough that you're making me navigate my drill so expertly, and the final boss fight is like, if you don't know how to expertly use your drill by now, you ain't gonna beat this game. Sure, And I think that's really

cool. I think it makes the player earn the credit sequence. I felt great playing it. I also think that it continued to mix up the gameplay, which I was also very impressed by. We talked about in the last one. Like I got a snowmobile and I was like, this is great. It does more cool shit like that. There was like a train sequence. There was like a couple other like really rad boss sequences that were very difficult to get through. Oh there's a mech that you can go into and

you can control like metal slug style. Nice. Yes, it's really cool and it's just like all these different and all those were really nice surprises for me. You should experience them yourselves. But this was like the first time where I was like, oh, you did really make this game evolve over times that each level feels a bit more distinct and more interesting. And again I think the final boss fight for me, it was such a slog It

was so difficult to get through. By the time I hit credits, I was like, this game is beautiful, Like I love what they did with it. It's just a dewey game in its core. There's no fucking text. It never explains anything. Who the hell knows what this story is about? Like, what the fuck is going on? She's got a drill and there's like all these goblins that are trying to kill her, Like it doesn't make any sense at all, and they don't give a shit about the story.

I think it is like it is a really well made game, and I think for fifteen bucks, like I basically have become sold on it. So I am a fan of Peppergrinder. Now how long would you say this like for you to be and we checked my hours on Steam, Yeah, I should go back, Like that seems like a good one to uh lit up on like a for like a flight or something like that. It's a great I think it's a good one. I think because a Steam deck, I would definitely want like a game pad for it, So a steam deck

would be a good one. You know. I'll put it right now on Best Playing Game for I got the twenty twenty four category lit just so we don't forget it. I'll put it there. Yeah, I think it's great. I was very impressed, and let me just check my library. But I was I remember saying to myself like when I finally finished it, I was like, oh, I'm glad I finished it. Glad I finally completed

it. That is not accurate. It's saying three point one hours. That's that's impossible because I streamed it twice for three hours apiece, and then I and then I played it. I've never seen that be so wrong before. And then I played it for at least four hours on vacation, so I

want to say it's a minimum ten hours. I wonder if you're if you played on that vacation on your steam deck, but you haven't connected that to the internet since you played that into that that could be that could be the case that it did an update, because I've played it on two different occasions on a stream, so that alone is like seven hours plus I played it on I would say twelve hours minimum. Nice. Yeah, I definitely liked what I played. Yeah, it's it's great. I was really proud.

I was really glad. I'm glad to like say, I like concluded. I think it has a good, like satisfying ending, not that there's like a story, but like there's a really nice ending sequence that's cute. It's just it's a it's a well made little piece of little piece of game. Nice. I'm looking for stuff because I got a long flight coming up in a bit and I'm looking for stuff to bring on it. And I got

a light next week too. Maybe we can share some recks. I've already beaten pepper Grinders, so I can't recommend that to myself, but I would like a recommendation that you have for a playing game. Well, I was thinking to load and stuff up, and I was going to download pepper Grinder because I just got this ion Neo flip ds this thing here, so it's

like a screen like grub got me turned on to this stuff. It's straight up just like the bottom screen is a touch pad, so you can put like for emulation for three DS and for WEU and things like that, Like I want to put wind Waker HD on this thing. But it's also just straight up Windows, so you can put Steam on it and you can do like unlike the same deck. I'm sure you can do like Fortnite, the Epic games. If you do illegal, what part the device or to hear

the device is not illegal? I mean said enough, I mean it's legal. It's just a win. It's a PC. So it's like you can download Steam Etic Game Store and probably does not want you to be playing their games on there. Who said anything about Nintendo? You did? Oh you said you were gonna put your show on right now? This could be anything. It's look, it's an audio podcast. No one knows what I have in my hand here, uh huh. But but yeah, it started.

It's like it's it's gonna make me wonder like if I should bring my Steam deck or this on things, because like this actually has a smaller form factor. I can do everything the Steam deck can do in terms of like I can download Steam games on it. I'm sure, like horsepower wise and tech wise and everything, the steam Deck is probably superior. And it also is just like since it is is a thing that is meant to like play Steam games, it does that so perfectly that like, man, I might just

let up the steam Deck. But anyway, it's just it's a good time. I think we're talking really, but it's a good time to be in a gamer on the go because between like all the portable options and phone stuff and Steam Deck and switch and like now this thing, like I love that. When I go on a long flight, I'm like, Okay, which of these numerous devices or the analog pocket or whatever am I gonna load up with games and play on this long flight? So yeah, it's a it's

a good problem to have deciding which will bring I agree. Talk about where you're going anything anywhere interesting? Uh, Europe is the plan. I got to see how my head is doing before the flights and stuff's going nuts about something. But yeah, so I should be going to Europe in next month, but we'll see. Next week, I am going to Saint Jude for

the Saint Jude Play Live festival. Every year, they always bring a bunch of creators who help raise money for Saint Jude Children's Hospital to Memphis, Tennessee, and I will be going. It's such a tremendously powerful experience because you meet children who have benefited from Saint Jude and have been who are either like experiencing treatment or finish their treatment or now living like healthy, normal lives. It's wild. And then all you gotta do is like get them hooked on

gambling. You got like a whole yeah time left to get them. Yeah, absolutely, very I have I went, I've been to. I have done this Saint Jude tour. I think four times now. I love. Yeah, it's super awesome. Based in Memphis. Yeah, I think it's where they're big because it's a campus. St. Jude big juge. Yeah. Hey Juje, Hey Jude, don't forget your deck on that flight from Oregon to Memphis. Keep going, keep going. I remember the Empire Survivors

has a DLCA coming out with guns. That's pretty weird. Hey Juje, stop drinking prime. You are Sacha. I'm ju Logan. Paul Shoe, Now he sucked. Don't let your kids into Dan's house. I agree with their money. I have them. Some stove gees leave the money in their nail box. Yeah, I have not played. I've been playing a lot for work, but free time wise, i've not played a ton. I did start a new Elden Ring play through character with the intent of preparing for

Shadow of the Urd Tree in June, the big DLC. I guess I could have just used my other character to get ready for it, but I don't know. The prospect of seeing a lot of those early areas with a different build was fun. I could have done the respect with the Pope Turtle, but again, you know you wouldn't go back and see Margaret the same way. Now I'm doing the I never did the bleed build. I'm doing

the dual Katana Samurai build right now. It's fun. A lot of bleed damage just builds up really quickly, and then they lose like a quarter of their health bar when you hit them enough. Yeah it's pretty good. Yeah, I will say that. Let me think back on so two years ago? Was it twenty two? Yeah? I love Eldon Ring, but I'm

getting bored more often than I remember the first time I played it. And granted I'm not into the very interesting parts yet, Like I'm still ling Grave and the first Legacy Dungeon the Castle, but also maybe the Bleed Bill is just a bit more powerful, so it's not as challenging yet, but I'm definitely finding that as I'm exploring on Torrent the Horse your mount and I'm going

like down to the Weeping Peninsula down south. We Obviously a lot of the mystery is just by nature of it being my third playthrough is gonna be gone, but I'm getting just Also, Tiers the Kingdom like kind of ruined, like getting from point A to B in a way that elden Ring wasn't trying to be Breath of the Wild, But then Tears of the Kingdom came along and just went so much deeper and also in a way that elden Ring does too in terms of going underground an a high but down. The game's still

phenomenal. I'm it's still just so well tuned mechanically, and I'm still just having a blast exploring, even if it's not the same as it once was. Yeah, it's still good. I'm gonnamute my mic and see why my dog's losing his mind. Sorry, I'll be back. Woodpeckers, it's the

woodpeckers. Mary. I need you to stop me from doing something. Okay, I've been I'm not traditionally an MMO guy, but for work purposes, I've just been looking more into momos and kind of getting into the MMO space lately, and I have I'm trying to not get into Wow when I'm this age and at this point, huh, I'm pretty confident I won't get like into Wow in the way that people used to when they were, you know, eighteen. I'm not gonna do that their lives away. Yeah, I

won't be doing that. I don't. I just don't play games like that. When Wharf, when I got into War from like that was like all right, I'm done. But like, I kind of want to dabble in Wow because there's so much I've missed since I played it in two thousand and like seven or whatever. Okay, should I just not? Uh? Yeah? Are you asking me to tell you not to play Wow? So apparently they had their like best year? Yeah, yeah, it just stop me. Just tell me not to. Don't you waste your life in Wow.

Get out of there. There are other things for you to do with your time and your money and your energy. You are not eighteen dropping out of college anymore. Go outside or play a different game, don't play Wow. Okay, I muted Mike's talking about playing Wow, so I was telling her

for work stuff. Lately, I've just been looking deeper around the MMO space when I'm not traditionally an MMO player, and I have like a code for like this, the Wow Ultimate Edition, and I've been reading apparently last year was one of its best years ever. And I never I've never really gotten into a game the way some of my friends got into Wow. I've just never really I think the closest, like I said, would have been a

Warframe. But then Wow is something that I'm curious what they were doing with Season of Discovery, with some of the classic stuff, with the hardcore. I was tempted to do one of the Permit Death characters, but I also just it's not that I would get sucked into it and spend all my time doing that. In fact, i'd probably bounce off. It just feels so weird to go back to Wow in twenty twenty four. There's got to be a better like MMO to put your time into, too. I don't think

so any better MMOs than that I played. I played a decent amount of final Fantasy fourteam. For what it's worth, I mean that genre I vowed in two thousand and forward never to get into because like I just remember seeing first of all, the idea of paying every month for a game was the craziest thing in the world. In me, I was like, what the fuck? Like that cannot wrap my head around that. But like I saw a good friend of mine that I knew au Thor junior high in high school,

great friend of mine. He was like an athlete. He was in med school at my college. He had this great relationship that he'd been with this girl for so long, and he got into Wow and he lost. He dropped out of school. He uh, he got super out of shape. He broke up with his girlfriend, like all these things and like that just became what he did. He stopped going out. He sat like all he did was play Wow all the time. And like I wasn't super interested

to begin with. I like Warcraft too, with the RTS, but like nothing about the game appealed to me anyway. But then like the money thing and the potential, Like and he wasn't the only case, you know, you would hear about lots of people just getting sucked in it was like, I'm never fucking with this. I love video games, but I got enough. I don't need to ever play a game that I have to play for a thousand hour or same with Doda League, any of that shit. Just

never. You're not wrong about how it can be so addictive that it can be harmful in a way. But I will I will make a shout out about the money for some people who I'm trying to think of, like a good example, I know people who were like really financially struggling, sure, and the thing that they did was they paid for a subscription to Wow, which back then was like what ten bucks a month? Yeah, is it

not anymore? If models? Yeah, going back in the day, right when you're like poor eighteen year old in college or whatever or just fresh out and you're figuring your life out. It can be your movie ticket, it's it's your Netflix, it's your everything, it's it is the thing that you do for entertainment, and it's ten bucks a month is no matter how much you play, and for an MMO, you can play that shit like forty

hours, like eighty hours a week. So for I debate the idea that it's like too expensive because it's monthly, because the idea is that it's it could be everything for your entertainment for the entire month. And I get that. And that was a pregame pass world where you could just pay, you

know, a subscription service and get a bunch of different stuff. So like that does make sense, and I think it was more just personally win against how I play games, where it's like I always wanted to play pretty much

everything, you know. I know I'm saying right now, like entire genre as I've said no things, but like I like to play a ton of different games, and so the idea of paying every month and possibly getting like way too into this and at the expense of playing other games, you know, Like he used to play everything and then he got into Wow, and I would ask him like, oh what do you think about this? Or this just come out on a GameCube, be like, oh no, I'm

just playing Wow. You know. It's like, well, okay, that's all you do now. And I've seen the same thing with Doda, with League, with things like that, and it's just like, I don't know, this is not not ever how I've wanted to play games. I spend my time on worthwhile things like speed running quackshot for the Sega Genesis, but chugging prime and yes, my time is value. Yeah, okay, now

for what it's worth. I'm I'm exaggerating. I'm gonna I just am curious what's going on the Wow, it's hardcore, permanenough mode, it's classic mode, and people are just saying, like, last year was one of its best ever. I played. I never got sucked in a while. It's

something about it. It didn't grab me like it did other people. But I've just been in the space for my day job and looking into the MMO space more so now I'm like, huh, maybe I'll see what was going on last year in a while, but that would take too much time away from Warhammer three, which has a good looking DLC coming out in two weeks. Oh RTS Warhammer three. Yeah, Total war War Total warkably long run Total War series, right, I don't. I've never played, and I've

talked about this game like so much time. You say, like Warhammer, or like there's the Mice one, there's the Orc one, and like it all. I've heard these words decades. There's there's the forty K thing, and then there's the I just I've heard Warhammer words for decades and never once had a good sense of what anyone's taking. Okay, but I have to point out that, like I've talked about Total War Warhammer three so much on this show that I believe you youto, Like we had a we have a

running bit about how YouTube tune out when I talk about it. Why No, But it just probably just sounds like a mic game. I don't think I realized it was the same game over and over again. Are you fucking with me? No? I don't. If you put a gun to my head and said it is Total War Warhammer three a real game, I wouldn't know. You might, you might, You're losing your mind. I don't.

First of all, I don't remember anything that we do on this podcast, so not just Total War, but I especially don't know what the Total War is outside of like it used to be like a Command of Conquer type thing, and now apparently they're doing stuff with the rat or series with the painted things. Okay, I don't know. I don't know. I to be faced down to my head coin flip. Aside from the fact that I've talked about this very game, I think maybe twenty separate episodes of the show.

I'm gonna say twenty times. Hang, let me let me try something, Mary, describe Total War Warhammer three. It's a strategy game. He's talked about it twenty times, so you got a lot of material to work with here. Okay, But when he talks about it, he doesn't say like, he just tells about how he feels. So he it's a strategy game that no matter how much time he sinks into it, he feels like it still pulls at his brain. Remember him understand of his decision making?

Yeah, wait, what tile the movie is rat to? Yeah? Yeah, but play now? I know, I know, I mean it's a call back, But what is the what is the game? I'm I'm not mocking you, Mary, I'm saying you're on the same level I'm at right, Like, can you describe this video game? I listened to his passion. I don't need to understand the mechanics played my game. I'm Mary, kiss let's talk about a three leg This game is a three like okay, side, No, you're not you're telling me you don't know what this game

is. Okay, it's not just me. Neither of us know what the fuck that game is. We understand fair enough that it's a strategy and there's probably mice. You're looking at the Wikipedia article right now, are you your other monitors? Okay? Really? Okay, quick rundown, Yes, you're right. When I say Warhammer three, I'm referring to Total war Warhammer three. Okay, that is the fantasy old world side of Warhammer. There's also

Warhammer forty thousand. There are orcs, but there's orcs in the Warhammer forty thousand, which is the future sci fi the stuff. What are you trying to do? Explain Total war war Hammer three once? What are you trying? It's a four X game, so half of it that's not gonna help. But how do you not know what a four X game is? You're a video game professional and you don't know what a four X game? It's

before more than one x. That sounds right, okay? Civilization Oh okay, anything made by parasymmetric tile based Yes, basically Fox into the Breach four x not it not in any way. No, just because it's isometric or tile based does not make it four x four X. It's explore, expand exploit. I forget. It's basically civilization games, but it's not exactly real time strategy because there's also the turn based element. Okay, and then it's

not it's not completely Grand Strategy because there are real time elements. It's like a strategy that's more if it's just the civilization aspect and there's not you're also managing like there's kind of interchangeable between four X and Grand Strategy, but that's something like I guess parts of Iron four would kind of blend between them, where you're actually managing supply lines during World War Two, that kind of stuff.

Like Grand Strategy, you're not just managing separate armies, you're actually managing every intricacy of war. So it's like the Madden franchise mode where you like set the price of hot dogs. Yeah, I guess, so that would be Grand Strategy compared to the real time strategy of an actual game of Madden.

Okay, I like that. Yeah, But Total War Rammer three is half of it is turn based campaign maps, and it's more like civilization where you're building up individual cities, but then you're building up armies and when they meet on the map, you go into real time battles. What about the chaos gods. Oh there's four of them, and there's factions revolving around them. There's nerves. You're right, I don't think she's looking at the Wikipedia.

Yeah. There's Nerd of Hustlence and decay and the Cycle of Life, and his followers are all about just uh, the plague and how it kills and then revives and fertilizes. Then there's Slanash, who is all about excess and greed and classic pleasure pleasure, and his followers are all about just like, uh, you know, seeking pleasure at its highest amounts. And then there's more of a real time hybrid four x guy like sort of the Stars

and Showgun Total War. Starships Unlimited is really good. Show Gun Total War is in the same series that we're talking about right now. Sure. Yeah, So I'm saying like Glass dread Lords was a good one. Yeah. See, Hype and Evo was great. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I like how the genre has been extended by gamers who have supported free sopper releases like free seven, free Calling, free writing. Yeah, it's Scotty Jails coming out soon. I'm looking forward to it. What do you do

in it? Just more of that. But they they're reworking factions, but they're reworking some of the They're reworking two of the original factions for the first game, and they're reworking one of the launch factions from the third game. I just like the idea that their marketing is like some more of that boy forgot that gets out a lot and it go to restaurants and has friends and stuff. You like some nerdy ass games. I know. Honestly, Okay,

here's here's a real thing. Now that I'm not an editorial and like, not forced but kind of forced to play everything, I really do. It's one of the great joys of my life to be able to just play like strategy games. I'm actually in the mood for. It's nice. And not to say I'm not gonna like I want to play. I mean, I love Prince of Persia Bilastros awesome. I'm still going through Infinite Wealth. That Infinite Wealth might actually I have done quite the one ad of that game.

That might be my leading game of the year right now. I've not played Rebirth yet or a Rise of the Ronan, and I'm very excited for Home World three, which is a strategy game in may you don't have to tell me. Yeah, I know Home World was one of the original arts is at the time of like Command of Conquer, But yeah, no, I like some deep cut games. Yes, you might be a smarter game. There's no butt stomp. Oh sorry sorry, double jump Okay, that's

what Mount rushmore of things you can do? Yeah, sorry sorry. You can't put out a bottle of Prime that distracts a guard while you shoot him with a blow dart in the neck. Hey, al right, sounds pretty cool. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool, Mike. You let's call up. Let's call up Hideosan Coachman. I fucked that up. Let's call up coach Masan. Get some Prime in Metal Gear Solid three remake with Hideo and drink Prime one day. You'll regret your words indeeds about Prime. Never unless

it makes me stinky. It's there's evidence, there's evidence that suggests it's not like bad bad. It's just noticing a little bit and I've never noticed it before. So Prime, that's the worst of it. Bad at it? What does Prime smell like? Candy Skittles? Really? Nothing that can't be good for you. It's like the popsicles with the where you cut the tops off. But it's like if you melted that and just filled a jug with it. That sounds good. Yeah, it is water, good for you.

I can Google. You're gonna find good stuff. Uh oh, Mary, we can all Wikipedia. Mary, thank you for backing me up on neither of us knowing what the game. I didn't back you up. I fucking don't know. I know me too, but you help prove my point. No, you called me out, and I was not able to do anything to get out of anything. We're both it's not a solidarity thing. I didn't want to be involved. You can't make me in solidarity. You with you. I was trying to get away. Look, we're a team.

We did it. We didn't know something to get you. You're an ignorant, bad friend. And I listened to him talk about I knew just as much as I knew what I knew about the chaos gods. What is your head turned? Why your head turn? You're looking at something else now the realm of chaos. Uh huh. Bac Lava has imprisoned the Wounded Ersen and the Forge of Souls in the realm of chaos. I know all about that. We know. You knew so much about this. You've been listening

to Mike. She listens, so that's what she does. Every word, Dan, what else are you playing? Oh god, this is not gonna. I'm just the name of this game. After Mike mocking me for playing stupid, I've been playing Yellow Taxi Goes Room. You fucking moron. You going up about these like deep complex strategic poor X games. I play Yellow Taxi goes Room. Tell us more about this Yellow Taxi. Tell us about

it. You wouldn't believe it. I Uh, it's a n sixty four throwback, and I enjoy that because I don't know, if you know. I like the Nintendo sixty four and it's like a platformer but you're a car and it's weird and it's funny and it's a collectithon and it's uh. I played it on a plane to Philadelphia. It made me laugh and I liked getting all those coins and stuff. There's a Hub World. It's a throwback

on PC that released this year to the n sixty four era. Correct, it's like like a like the same way that like a Yuku Lele or a cave story or things like that I have done. I feel like you're starting to see more of those sixty four throwbacks. These it's like inspired by yeah, totally, but it's got its own weird sense of here, we're in everything, and just the fact that like you're a little car driving around instead of like a little mascot platformer. It's a yeah, it's fun so good.

Yeah, that's Yellow Taxi Goes Room. It's so funny. It's just like hearing two adults in the room and then some fucking moron comes and goes I've been playing Yellow Taxi Goes Room. I'm ten years older than I. Like getting the coins. I'm jerking my logan pole juice and playing Yellow Taxi Goes Room. Yeah, good job, Dan, Go take a shower. Mike's going to vineyards and talking about four X strategyn't leave your house because you're

battling a family of woodpeckers. Why are you stinking when I run? Now? This is like it's always sunny. The farther into the the farther into the show they get, the more they become caricatures of themselves. In season one, oh I took six seconds off my quackshot time this morning a fucking really reductive potion. The other day it was like actually offended me. I spin on the waiter. Oh god, I'm bringing Nixon back from the dead

and I'm campaigning for him. Road finished his story, but we're gonna do it. Ronald Nixon's cozy Tour campaign for president. Oh god, games, I have one more that I think actually I've really enjoyed and so I'm excited to talk to you guys about it. It's called Children of the Sun. Have you heard of this game. It's a sniper game. It's a sniper visually styled to hell. So the person who made this and it seems like one of those like one person games, it gives me a one person game

vibe. Uh Published by Devolver, this game gives you some of what's it called, uh Hot? What's the one where you're also sniper. It'll give you some super hot vibes and you might be like, that game was cool and stylized. This is similar. It is a sniper that is very cool and stylized, but it's a totally different concept. The concept is you put someone in a space and you say, shoot these six people, and so you get to like tag them all metal gear style, like you tag their

little heads. You know where they are and where they're walking, and you see their AI patterns and you decide to take your first shot. And when you take your first shot, let's say it shoots Guy one. Your second shot is from Guy one now and you're that's a starting point. Yeah, that's right. And when you if you're able to successfully murder Guy two, that's your new starting point. And then you shoot Guy three, and you

do that until you kill all six people and you create a path. And it's neat because once you've killed everybody, it shows you your path top down, bird's eye view style. It shows your unique path. It also gives you a unique scoring system. You get more points for headshots. Oh, this is a cool one. You get more points for being able to kill

people in succession within like maybe two seconds of each other. So if I'm able to like boom boom, boom boom and like ZipZap around the map and kill all the people quickly and finish my murders, that's a higher score than someone who takes their time thinks about it. There's additional points for distance, which I think is really neat. So if I'm taking the longest distance between my people and zigzagging around the map, which also makes a fun design that's

worth more than shooting people really close to each other. So is there almost like this like Tony Hawk like combo score element of it? Like, is there a like leader board at the end? Yes? Not? Is there a leaderboard? Dan, there's a friend leaderboard? Oh no, And I'm going for Okay, Grub is fucking crazy. His scores are out of this world. But I've been going for Grub and Alex and I've been getting a lot of their scores beat. So I challenge you, Dan White. It

has so it's very different than Neon White. Friends scoring system is so addictive to be able to beat your friend's scores. And like again, I just have to say this, Grub is fucking out of his mind. His scores are so high that in some of these he's in like the top fifty of all gamers, which is nuts. Yeah, real, what Mike, what's happening? Is the right? All right? So just now when you said it's like Neon White, I was like, Dan, I just said that.

I was like, oh wait, I muted my microphone like twenty seconds ago to fart. I forgot to unmued it. But I legitimately said it's just like Neon White and then you said it immediately. You're so ignorant, Mike. It looks like a yeah, crossbitch, I mean Neon White, and like you mentioned super hot. And then I like the path of the bullet it shows at the end based on the Steam videos kind of what the

hell is the hotline Miami almost like the overhead. Sure it has a hotline Miami Vibe too, because at some point you are going for speed because there's there's a couple other points things that I think are interesting. So yes, doing a combo between people will give you a higher score. It costs you points per bullet. So if you can kill multiple people with like one bullet,

that's where too. Yeah, because this video I'm looking at is like he got to a guy in a cabin where he couldn't see the people below him, so he shot to this arrow like on the outskirts of the map to readjust but that cost it him points because he had to use like the maps shortcut. Yeah, there's a couple like really interesting things. I want to be careful with how much I give away. I don't think this is actually giving way too much. There's little things like you can shoot. Uh,

you can shoot like the cars, you can use. There's explosion this game, like you can you can kill people in unique ways, which I don't think everyone will think about. And uh, there is a point in the game where it starts to really alter what you're able to do. And I think that's really cool. And Grub ain't there yet because I've been beating some levels and his name is an almost more so I know he hasn't gotten there's some crazy fucking levels coming up now where they're starting to allow you to

like manipulate the bullet very slightly bend the bullet. You can bend where it's so you can bend the bullet. You can do this really cool thing now. They they put a lot of rules behind it. You can't just do whatever you want, but yes, you can slightly bend bullets. And there's this really neat thing you can do now where you can shoot your gun and then maybe like halfway through will be like, okay, now I want that

to be my new spot where I can pick up a spot. It's like say, there's like a hiding mind a wall you can shoot and then be the bullets new trajectory. And then like and then completely change. It's really fucking cool. I think this is a very well designed game. I think it's very interesting. The friend systems that you can like compete against your friends awesome, it's not. There's a couple quality of life that I wish they had that they didn't. For example, in a lot of those other games,

you can watch other people's replays. In this game, you cannot watch other people no replay system, so like you have to imagine how they got that score and do your best. You Also, yeah, and uh, you cannot see the friends scores from the menu. So if I want to be like I want to beat Grub, I have to go into the level, watch this little intro cut scene which like who cares right, and then like and then like click to the friends scores and find out that Grub has

like an insane score before I can compete against him. So I find that to be a little annoying, considering, like, I'm a very competitive person, and that's why I'm getting really into this game. But I think if there were no friends and it had nothing to do with that, I genuinely believe that this is a very interesting take on the sniper puzzle genre. Of games. I don't know how many others there are. I think this is an extremely well made game in terms of like just style and the concept of

it. It's awesome. Oh you can fucking shoot birds and then use them to shoot from It's so cool, Like it's wow. It's a very neat game. So I do. I really do recommend it. I will say though, one more warning. For whatever reason, this designer really likes s flashy stroby lights. It is not good for people who are like epileptic or have issues with flashy things. I didn't see any no, and some of it was like inexcusable. It was just like you are trying to give me

a problem with the flashing going on. So I don't care for any of the c I skip every cuts in this game. I couldn't give a shit about the cut scenes. Sure do you think this would be a good playing game? But I'm trying to like load up these devices. That's a really good question. I think that it will be. Yes, I am playing it with nothing but a mouse right now, Okay, not a lot of keyboards because you're not like moving. It's not like was the It's you're just

shooting and shooting and shooting. You're just shooting. I'm sure that they've solved it for a uh for a Steam deck I played it with. Like I said, I played it on my PC and every button was mapped to my mouse. It was like move your mouse left and right click, right click and the middle wheel. That's it. Okay, five button game. It's crazy. It's good. The story sounds like Mandy, like the plot and all the psychedelic graphics are very psychedelic. If you're like a like PS one

era or no, like early v R graphics, Mandy. You're killing a cult that like, you're getting revenge on a cult. That sounds great to me. Yeah, the poblems, you're transparent that you're killing cultists. Yeah. And it is kind of fucked up, like all the cut scenes are basically like kill them all, like fuck them up, and it's like kind of like sadistic and weird. But the gameplay is so good. I've I've like overlooked anything that I'm like, I don't really care for that because the

gameplay is amazing and it just keeps every level they add something new. They just added armor, and it's really fun because sometimes there'll be a guy right next to you, and you'll be like, I can kill that guy, but he's wearing armor. And if you want to kill the guys with armor, you got to be really far away, which means now I have to kill like four men really far away so that I have enough distance for my bullet to gain enough speed so that I can kill the armor guy. That's

fun. You guys will like it picked up. Yeah, Devolver did it again. They have a really I always say this, like I just feel like, usually not all the time, but like when developer published something, I'm always like, I gotta check that out because we have a vibe, and this game is well made, is a well well designed puzzle sniper game, and their brand is super strong. Like they they do have a vibe to them. It's yeah, yeah, you kind of know at least the

vibe you're gonna get with a developer game. And yeah, they also have like pretty reasonable price points. Again, this game is fifteen bucks, which I think is pretty reasonable. I have not I haven't beat it. I think I've put four hours into this game, and I'm loving it. It looks great. I mean that sounds good. I'm going to play this on EC tomorrow. I would love that. Let me know on the scoreboard because we're buds. You should see my scores on there, and then you should

see Grubs. It's nuts. So like my scores are like two thousand points, Navarro is usually like right with me, like we're both right around two thousand, and then like Grubb will be like eight thousand, you know, top fifty of the United States, Like what the fuck does he did this with me? On White is like he played that first like chapter or whatever, of like ten levels and got crazy scores on all of them. But you, you know, we wanted to see at the end of the game,

and you just his scores drop off early. He just super perfects some which which is a way to do it for sure, But he doesn't like do the whole thing like me. I mean, it's his vibe. I'm the opposite actually, So like I just get through the level. Beating a level is solving a puzzle, right, like figuring out the right way, and there is no right way, right, Like, you will beat these levels very different the way I do it. But getting through a level is

a huge achievement. And then when you see your score and you see grub score, you'll be like, if I replayed this level half a dozen times, I might be able to beat that. I am fucking doing that. I move on to the next level, and so I'm on like level like twenty seven, and Grubs stopped after like level fourteen. He's just he's just like an addict for the ones that he did. Yeah, I think I'm

closer to you, Mary and that. Like I'll beat the game and then I'll go back and I'll be like, all right, let's get everything, all the ones that are like bronze level. I'll get the meddle for that, and it's like, okay, now these aren't silver, and I'll like just kind of go around, you know, scattershot though. I don't think I was able to beat him even once, not on one level. Now, you're really making me want to get in there. I couldn't. I

said this on stream too. It's not that I have to beat him all the time. You just gotta beat him once and then you screenshot it and be like, job, you're no good. Job didn't job, You're no good. You just do one. You just gotta get one. I think we had that for like thirty six hours. Marry me and you with that what was the hyper Demon game or whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's like we had like with that that was just one level, you know, that's all there. Yeah, there's like one little thing, and it is fun

to beat your friends. Like I think this is a very important aspect of this game is that there is a score. I don't think I fully understand the score system, but they try and explain the score system to you. I think it's very addictive to try and perfect the system that it's teaching you so that you can get a really high score in some of these levels. But again, like I said, even even beating some of these levels is tricky. So when you beat them, you'll be proud of yourself and be

like that's it. I'm done, Like that's a that's an achievement, and you know, in itself, just to get them done. Then it sounds I'm excited. I don't play that soon. I'm glad that you guys are into it. I really liked it. I think it's really neat all right because when do emails or okay, as usual, you can write into fire skate Pass at gmail dot com questions, comments, concerns, et cetera. Write in questions about video games or anything else you might read them on the

show. Mary, do you want to read this first one we have from listener Eric? Actually yeah, actually no, not to do the thing. This makes more sense with Dan because of what he's been talking about. Oh okay, uh last Fortnight, you all discuss how music can provide a boost when running. What are your favorite workout songs and music? Eric? Oh,

I this is something I've actually been let me get my Spotify. Uh yeah, I uh, I'm finding that the thing that gets me the most kind of hyped up when I'm running or working out is obviously it started with like rocky music, you know, like it was always that's the classic.

You know, it's the most generic, like or most what's the word I'm looking for, you know, it's the most obvious, like this is the music that listening when you're working out, but that like has extended almost to like I don't know what genre I would call this, like rap of like boxing, walkout music type stuff like just aggressive confident. Uh yes, but I remember like the fight night menu we would have like you know, Victory

with with Biggie and Pup Daddy and then like Creed. I watched Creed three recently, and uh, Nipsey, Nipsey Hustle that last time that I checked song Diamond Dame comes out to, and so I've gotten into Nipsey Hustle. I'm listening to him a lot while I'm running Meek Mill because Mick Mill was in that the Creed thing. They they layered Lord Nose over the Gift rock music, but it's the rocky it's a game soundtrack. But it's just that,

like this is what I listened to as well. It's meek Mil, it's Nipsy, It's it's also like Kendrick It's yeah, yeah, yes, I'm starting to do with all that, and I'm liking it a lot. But it's the same way that like back in the day, I would watch ECW and you know, when I was only listening to classic rock and stuff. Now I'm hearing Pantera. Now I'm hearing you know, like Metallica and things like this, and like I'm getting into like more recent at the time

stuff you know, Rage against the Machine things like that. So yeah, I think now I'm actually like getting a like I haven't really listened to hip hop much since the early two thousands, and so now it's just like, wow, any suggestions. I was talking to jan about this. Yeah, it's like Meek mil Nipsey Hustle, like you know, any just like really dream confident, what's that? Do you have? Dreamville anything? My dream for Anthem by Dreamville is a really good song that I haven't No, no,

it's similar. It's on Creed three. Oh okay, I forget when it comes on in Creed three, but it's in Creed three. Yeah, even just like albums that I should check out, and I can just kind of cherry pick songs that I want to put on my like exercise playlist things like that, but like, yeah, I've also got like some days it's like, okay, I just want to listen to Megadeth and Alice in Chains

and like more like a metal playlist or something like that. So and then I've got like a big one where just like let's just put it all together. So uh yeah, it just kind of depends on what a feeling that day. Yeah, sound of my Ceremony My Nipsy Hustle is probably a song you have. Which one sounded my Ceremony? I don't. I've just been listening to a Victory Lap so far, which is like that sound my ceremony is really good. Okay, okay, cool, I'll check it out,

but really quick. I just because it's like related my uh. I listened to very similar music when I'm working out, but like more specific. There's a lot of like Meek Mill does this, Future does it where it's like rocky sound bites but oh set as a bassline to the like a hip hop song. It's really good. I send me any of. A few weeks

ago, I said, like, like was almost done my workout. Then this came on and I recognized what they were doing with the rocky bassline, and I I was being a douche and I said, like I did, I did another sixteen sets. Okay, let me look at it and maybe added yeah yeah, but yeah love that. We should each add a song from each other's and run to it and see what it's like. We're just gonna give each other a fake one to no, I'm gonna give it one.

You know what's a really good hype of Boogie in Your Butt by Eddie Murphy. That's a good one. I'm writing it down. The Alcot by the National is really good for working out too. Weird goodbyes by The National featuring Bony Verar really good. Oh they're so sad and slow. No, they're sick for working out. You'll be crying while you work out. I was digging about She's Gonna Die the yellow text he goes through YO tip tip

for anyone that has really changed my music listening while I'm running. I got the bone conduction headphones, and I'd heard about those a lot when I was starting a bike a lot, and now that I'm running too, I went ahead and purchase because then I can use them for running in cycling. So it's the thing where it goes around your head, so they're not gonna come

out of your ears or anything. But nothing goes in your ears. They just go like over, and then there's some little things like press like in front of your ears, and it's just like shooting sound into your skull, like not for your ear drums, and it's not good. So you can hear it. It's a safety thing. So it's like if you're riding a bike or you're running, you can hear cars. You can hear things like that, and they are not going to come out of here, like you

can shake your head. You can check blind spots things like that. Nothing's fallen out. It has been fantastic for running and biking. That's pretty cool. Yeah, they're called a like shocks pro. I think it's like shokz, but game turn. I'd be interested. I don't care for my Apple iPod whatever is. I don't care for them. I don't care for them at all. I feel like they do not hold a charge. I swear to God, I charge them all day and then I'll go on a run.

In like fifty minutes into the run, it'll be like we're running out of juice. And it's like you they're like two years old, and I know apple products are meant to die after a few years, but it's just, you know, it was just like a hundred bucks, like I would have thought they would have lasted a little longer. It doesn't sound right because I don't I feel like I can go on, like you know, several long bike rides like hours and hours and they're still going. But they charge

in the case. Are you putting them in the case? They charged in the case, but I think that the case, like you know, it takes a long time, and I just feel like I just think they're old and the battery is dying and I've had enough, so I'd like to move on from them. My suggestion is, I've been getting really into Uh this is strictly workout. I don't listen to this any other time unless I'm working out. I do not listen to this like in my free time. I

do not listen to this when I'm working. It's just what I'm working out. It's Galantis and it's a song specifically called Peanut Butter Jelly, and it's really good. And I Galantis is a band. I don't know anything else about them. I found them. Uh. I was doing like one of those class passes where you just go to a random class, and I did a random what's it called not like boudoir is not the right word. It's like where it's like you're dancing, but it's also like you're now we twerk.

Yeah, Like there's like there's like sluttiness to the dance and you were supposed to get your heart rate up. It's pretty fun. Anyway, we did the class to Galantis Peanut Butter Jelly, and now I'm like addicted to this song and I really enjoy it. So I think it's really fun to get your heart rate up. And then recently, and this is a big twist, I've been getting really into an album made by Michael Sarah, the actor. He makes music and yes, and he made uh an album.

See if I can find the name of the album. I mean, he's just a really interesting guy. It's not workout music. I will be very clear with you on that, but it doesn't matter. Sarah and I just want to go nuts. Yeah, dude, it's it's a crazy like listen to listen to Clay Pigeons. It's just a really fun I don't even think it's an album, but like he's on Spotify. He's just a funny little guy. And most of his songs are like guitar and him singing casually about

wanting to move down south where everybody says y'all. It's really calming and charming and sweet. And I think he just made them in a bedroom or something. I love them there. They won't get your heart rate up, but they're they're sweet little tracks. I think it's great. I had no idea who's doing that. I know I stumbled across that too. I listened to Joel a lot. He's got some good music that the guy from super Bad. Okay, Wow, we're doing okay models sure to sleep a chance to

dream? Uh? Okay, Well, thank you, Eric, appreciate it. Uh married one to this one from Ryan, Ryan, Dude, do this one from Ryan? Please? Hi, friends, longtime, first time, et cetera, et cetera. What's something ultraspecific video game or otherwise that you feel like you are the best in the world at or at least exceptionally talented at. For me, I think I have an uncanny knack for knowing when a door or a hallway in a game is going to trigger a cutscene

or a point of no return. So I got out of my way to explore the rest of the map available to me. I visit all the shops to check out all the buildings before moving on. Especially in RPGs, there was no like goodbye, It just says Ryan. So thank you very much for the question. Ryan. That's a good one. Best in the world at or at least exceptionally talented at twenty third in the world A quackshot so, and that's only going up every day. So what Mike just very deliberately

put his glasses on. No, the glass has nothing to do with what I want to say. I thought he had a bit and we're all preparing ourselves. We're bracing here it comes. I don't know, Mary, I don't know. I'm not prepared. I didn't read this in advance. I assume somebody does. I I don't know if I'm the best in the world or exceptionally good at anything. I will say I don't know how many people

in the world have beat down well. But that's pretty difficult. And I was very proud of myself for completing that game on a live stream under a lot of pressure, and I'm very proud of that moment. And I would say that under pressure, I feel like I can deliver still beating a game without like you know, like a lot of people can do it, but if there's a lot of people watching them, they'll crumble. Hm. I

feel like I could beat down well on the stage at the Apollo. I feel like even with a bunch of people being like you suck, I could be like, fuck you, I'll do it, and I and I can, and so I think I can. I can overcome extreme stress or pressure and still perform. I don't think I'm like the best in the world, but I'm definitely accept I think I would call myself very talented at darts.

Playing darts, oh really, I mean I'm not going to farewell and actual like reel those like World Darts competitions where they do insane shit, but like the most most the average bar room, I'm definitely going to be one of the more talented people until someone comes up and wants to put money on it. Then I'm like, I know they're probably good, yeah, and soul caliber. I'm up there darts. I feel like I should know that about you. I didn't know you were good at darts. I know play,

but I didn't know you were good. I another more of a social thing, not as much a quantifiable skill. I continually amaze my wife and several of our friends when I remember I'm very good at remembering names and faces, like I'll meet someone once and then remember them forever. I don't know why worst in the world of that. I don't know why I can't I meet someone and I learned their name, and I just I couldn't forget it if I wanted to. And I don't need to like get to know you that

well. I just meet it and meet you once and something about like I think there's like a synesthesia aspect where I like remember where I was and what it smelled like and what I was drinking at the time or eating at the time. When I remember, someone was like, Oh you're Wan or oh

you're Patrick. That's so weird how brains work is Like I have that specifically with Like, Okay, if I was driving around and a song came on, and then I hear that song again two weeks later and where Wolves of Blending comes on, It's like, oh, I remember I was driving past the Mall of America and this part of the song was playing, and I'm like, what the fuck do I remember that? But then like names and faces and stuff like that, I just absolutely, I'm I have to know

someone pretty well to remember a name in a face. It's it's we had a we had a I still remember their names. We had like an like a not an argument, but we were out several months ago and this like married couple from Alabama who was visiting New York had like said something about me

and Amanda. I forget what they had said, but the point being I remember their name is because on their way back from the bathroom, I had done like a aggressive, Hey, how's it going like to you know, call them out to let them know I heard them, And then they actually ended up being friendly. They just told a poorly, a tasteless joke and they I remember their names. It was Lisa and Morgan, and then I will not forget that anytime soon. It's I don't know why that is what.

Of course, I can't pick up on normal body language social cues, but I can remember names and faces. I was like excited the other day because I've met so many neighbors and stuff since we moved here, and like, I'm so bad at all their names, even if I met them. And I met a couple that lives near by and their names were Paul and Nina, and I told him like, oh, Tecan, and they were like, what's that? But to me, I was like, yeah, all right, tech and I can remember this. Just shouted tech in at

them. I didn't shout teckn but I definitely said Tecan. Let's go, honey, this is a tech and mag we're moving. We're gonna call the local police. What a weird man with our children's cigarette smelly Tekan prime man, He's given our kids cigarettes and video games constantly jogging around our house. I'm trying to think of video game wise, what is something I'm really fucking

good at in video games? In person, I'm really good no matter how much I drink or how tired I am, washing my face and brushing my teeth. I've heard you brag about this before. I know this is something to take a lot of pride in. This has been a long time thing in the world. Yeah, no matter how drunk I get, my teeth are clean. I drunk, Mary no to do it, God bless her.

I have to be up there in terms of, like I'm not going to say all across wrestling knowledge, but if we want to talk North American televised pro wrestling from nineteen ninety three onward, I've got to be way up there in terms of like history, trivia and even like inside stuff, you know, as far as say, a wealth of knowledge of that stuff. Yeah, there's probably other stuff that I'm now there might not be. I

don't know. Those are the things that I'm aware of though. Video games wise, I'm trying to remember the last time I got very good at a video game that like other people noticed, But did you notice that the Sorry I want to like, did you notice that Ryan's specific example was not that he's really good at a game, but that he's really good at knowing when there's a hallway that it's going to be a cutscene. Yeah, it's not

that you have to be really good at counter Strike. The idea here is that you're no, I know, sure at acknowledging something in a game, and he does say he does start with saying something ultra specific, So I guess it's more like, what is a weird little thing? I think we're all way off here. I think it should be something like like you know when you're in water, knowing, even if it doesn't give you a timer, that you're going almost out of breath in Sonic, right, And it's

just like I know the timing of when Sonic will drowned. I'm very good at knowing it. As an example, it's very clear with audio. If you don't know Sonic's about to drown, you're an idiot, because it's like dun dun dun dun dud dud dud du du du du du da dun dun dun dun dundad No, it gets so clear. I'm really good at the end of the classic Tony Hawk run where it's like a two minute run where I just need to I'm trying to get every single point out of it.

I will just like stand still pogo and new kickflip into another pogo and new kickflip, and now I can eke my way into a grind and just like every little like post two minute thing I can get out of it. When I was playing a lot of Siege, I got specifically very good to the point of like people in the match would get annoyed of me and saying chat

like that's such bullshit. There's a character named Maverick. He's got a His gadget is basically this blowtorch that can blow like melt holes in the metal fun. Yeah, I got very good at like knowing exactly where they had not where they would not be looking to shoot their feet a lot until they die. Like I know I was good at it because people got pissed. Yeah,

that was mine. That's mine. Really good A chance time in Mario party hmm, Yeah, I know how to like because each one gets progressively faster, So I know I want to do me and then arrow to me of a star or something and then whoever the fucking lands on one. Great, it's coming to me, you know, going through my Steam library to

see if there's any old gems that are really worth talking about here. I don't feel like I was particularly like amazing or have like something really interesting to say about Offspring Fling, you know, which I played in twenty thirteen last Oh Jesus, it's crazy. These are so old. I love looking through these. Okay, keep that in mind, keep browsing. I'll keep that in mind. I don't know if I had anything good, all right, I got one from stupid. I'm not talented. I don't know why he

said this said. I'm assuming Micha will be the one who reads this. So hey, Mike HBO. Max listed the Rocky movies as ones that are leaving Max soon. So I watched all of them in a row, some of the some of them again, the later ones for the first time. And after watching Rocky five just now, I wanted to know what's the worst movie or game in a franchise that you otherwise love. I mean, that is the classic one, because it's like, here's a ton of movies and

only one one of them is bad. You know, It's like I can't say Terminator because like, Terminator is two great movies and then it's several Godfather, Alien, same thing, god No, I mean Godfather one and two are great and three is bad. Is that what you're just saying. No, I was saying, like with Rocky, one of them is bad. I was saying with Terminator, it's like two good, but then there's like

a lot of bad ones, like Godfathers. I think Godfather is a good answer for this, and that one and two are really good and just has the one outlier bad one. You know, Yeah, Alien has a bunch of bad ones part of their I'm talking about the number of Aliens. Oh sure, sure, but yeah, I mean I'm I'm the weird of who likes Covenant. Oh I got one. Well, no, this doesn't count. I was gonna say Jurassic Park because the first one is so good and

all the other ones are fucking god dog shit. I can't and they kept making billions of dollars though, m Yeah, I want to say, but no one counts that. No. I was gonna say, like Devil May Cry three, is it? No? Three is the best one? Which one's that two bad one? But every other Devil may Cry is good. I'd say my joke answer was about to say was Zelda Links Awakening. But my real answer for that series is a Spirit Trax okay, terrible. It's

not like a Rocky five level. It's just it's that Zelda good. No, I like Panamerica. Spirit Traxx is h and Spirit Tracts is better than Rocky five. Mario doesn't really have any stinkers like in the mainline series. Yeah, it's it's it's like the we don't talk about X child meme that there's a better example than Rocky five. That is just like there's eight movies. No, there's nine movies now and only one of them is bad. The rest are like good to best. Ever I'm trying to think of like

a TV show when there was one very bad season. Oh, is it just drop off? You know? Yeah, it's usually like just a downhill. Yeah, like Dexter or whatever, you just drops off for lost literally like name them. Yeah, the Office like they just like have this, like even the Wire people didn't. The last season is the worst one. Yeah, I yeah, I would say this is very much bending the rules. But I guess Sopranos season three, I like the season a lot.

However, it has the Columbus Day episode, which is probably the worst episode of the Sopranos ever. Oh really yeah, oh, while we're on the HBO train, True Detective had two weird ones, and then I actually really liked the last season. We talked about this. Yeah, I'm gonna act like the first one. I only liked the first season. I've seen them all. You're wrong. The last season of True Detective is so good and I've actually I've thought about it. I'm like sad on it. I've slept

on it. I've processed it. It's really good and I were all in until that ending, and then it's like, where the fuck did that come from? That nothing that happened before it led to this Like this, it was sprinkled in the whole time. I'm telling you, it was sprinkled in the whole time. It's really good. That is a one season show. Nope, it was season four for Soprano Sorry apologies. Thinking about the game franchise, Yeah, like it definitely cried two is definitely the one resident evil

did that really have? Like like the number six are six? I mean, like, look, there were ones that didn't like Aide super well, and things like that. But like in terms of the number, if we're just talking one through or eight or yeah, I think that's valid. Six ships the bed like five issues. But you're like, oh, there's some volume now. But like, I enjoyed it. It came out and it's a really good COPI is a bad game. But yeah, yeah, I agree, Yes, six six was bad when it came out. Dan is

right specifically about resident Evil. That is the correct answer. But now looking back, there are several stinkers in the middle of those numbered or five and six. I both not all of them aged well, But I don't think it's super fair to be like I just c I'm just saying you clearly didn't listen. I listened to you all the time. You're always talking about the debatched Prince of Damnation. Yeah, he's a he's a warrior, chaos legendary

lord, a follower of Sigmar until he betrayed his lords. Forget when you told me about Swaanish who led the extatination. That's just the leech lord. I remember him. I remember him and the Kundits speaking dactyls. That's freaking a warrior queen. Oh wait, actually, okay, so total war Warhammer three players will get this, depending how Thrones it Decay turns out. I would actually call Shadows of Change the rocky five of Warhammer three DLC. Wow,

that's very spicy for Warhammer people who know like me. Yeah, right, that's very that's a very controversial statement. And I talked a lot about Shadows of Change when it first came out. God, I'm in the minority here. I don't know anything about this. Just not the most popular of the Warhammer series. Dan'l. Yeah, I should look this up. Yeah to war Pharaoh. So when I'm stuck in yellow Taxi goes verbal war what about? I believe that the coins are are parents. They're very symbolic in

in this essay I will discuss now. I'm just curious about what else might come up if I google. Of course the fucking Gamer has an entry ten game series with the only one bad game the Gamer Oh my god. And of course Devile make cries there Fallout seventy six that hasn't aged as well. Also, I think there was one resident on his listve Dino Crisis three. I wouldn't know that Gears of War judgment that game's fine. Yeah, that was like a side sort thing. And also I think fine, it was

fine. It doesn't have any like serious stinkers do. And they also weren't like building judgment up to be like the next big one, you know it's the best God Bless them Doom three mm hmm. I feel like people kind of came around on that Devil Dead three. Yeah, I agree with that. I like that, I think it. I think the problem was is that it was the third installment and everybody was so excited about like the complete that. But I thought it was fine. I didn't think it was like

a total stinker Metroid Prime Federation Force. I mean, now that I I think about him, I was gonna say, other m actually comes to mind. Uh, Final Fantasy one thirteen. There's a few bad Final fantasies. Oh, Final Fantasy is like a total total space we didn't touch in this of bad games in a tremendous series pack. Final Fantasy is such a weird one to me because I feel like everyone goes crazy every time there's a new

number one coming out. But like, I can't remember the last time somebody was like over the moon about one, Like people like twelve a lot, Like when was a lot, but that was fucking twenty years ago. Like, I'm surprised, Like people get freaked out over every trailer for Final Fantasy, and then like sixteen comes out or fifteen comes out, and just no one really talks about it that after it comes out, Like is it are they considered good? Because I don't hear any enthusiasm for these and Rebirth,

Yes, Rebirth, I know there's a lot of enthusiasm for it. But outside of that, I yeah, I don't. I don't remember the last ten was ten? The last one? Everyone's like, fuck, yeah, Final Fantasy. I don't even remember that. I came on another one Hitman Absolution that is that's a bad one? Ye, yep, that's that's a good answer for that. Yeah, A three. I don't know. That's just the first one I played. It's a sim City, Yes, the remake, the twenty thirteen one. Yeah, wow, that's so specific.

Yeah. Silent Hill Book of Memories, Mary, there's a lot of bad Silent Hills. I thought I've played every Silent Hill. There are a couple of weirdos in the Silent Hill series, the wee one Homecoming. I So the thing is is like even the ones where are like this isn't very popular, Like I liked Homecoming, but I played it without all that stress with

a friend who enjoyed the series. And so when you do it under those con that's kind of like when you play RESI five, right, Like when you play RESI five under the right context, Like if you play it with your sister, like somebody who is like enjoying it, it ain't bad, Like I played Homecoming with the right part, and so I enjoyed that experience, whereas like some of these are just like they can't be saved. Yeah, all right, Well, if anybody else thinks of any please write in

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close it's a thrill. Jeez, it's it's a Minnesota law if you ever go ninety miles an hour on the freeway with nothing on, it's fucking exhilarating. Dan, what do you have going? I got a lot going on. A giant bomb, Doc Corver Sneeze. I was trying to fight through that, trying to wait through it, Giant Bob, we have a lot of stuff going up. Tailgating video from Philadelphia was very fun. I went to the Eagles Stadium before WrestleMania and met a bunch of characters at the tailgate

for like six hours. So look up Giant Bomb tailgating WrestleMania. There. We'll have another WrestleMania video going up soon where I interviewed Jade Cargill and aj Styles, got a fight in front of me, a whole bunch of stuff going on there, and then well I usually plug fire Escape at this point, but that's what you're listening to right now, so I'll say go check

out. Ben Hansen on mid Max did a Hot Ones interview. I guess it was like a dual thing where we both went through the actual Hot Ones sauces and wings and interviewed each other back and forth as we ate all of the ten sauces. And that was a very fun thing to do, so too derivative for my taste. I think you've never seen hot Ones. He just yeah, he's got the exact same sauces and had the same Yeah to

watch that. How do you use one? Can you do? They have like a store where you can find all their all the ones that you can just find like this is the season twenty one store, and here's the ten sauces and like it was interesting after seeing like the bomb a million times on that show, it'd be like eating the bomb and be like, oh this

kind of sucks and it's very hot. You know. Were the bad ones as bad as some people let on in the show, No, because I've done those, like you know, one chip challenges and stuff like that, and like those are like crazy, super duper hot. This got very hot by the end, like that last ab one is is definitely very hot, and the bomb is nothing to sneeze at. But yeah, it's it's I've done worse. I mean I did spend a good amount of time on the toilet the next day, so it's not like it's nothing. So yeah,

nice Mari. What do you have going on? Yeah, just twitch ice stream on Mondays and uh Saint Jude. I'm excited to visit so that'll be a really nice experience. I'll tell you guys about it next time. Nice. All right, what about you anybody else? Oh, Gizmo, No, you're good. Gizmo is sleep here. I'm here. The day job is not not a forward facing thing anymore, which is very nice for me personally. The games you're playing, oh yeah, play I played metal your

Solid six. Oh yeah, don't tell you. I want to just spoil everything for you. Are you're working with the Day on that? Oh yeah? Could you signed me. We're drinking Prime, we're hanging out Helen. Helen was there, mm hmm yeah, her, her step son's doing the music again. She's in it. It's got sick. I can't wait. But no, I'm just I'm here in fire Escape easy. Yeah. Anyway, that was episode eighty nine. Thanks for joining everybody. We had a

great time. We'll see you in two weeks for episode ninety. No wait, it's not episode seventy nine. We'll see you next week for episode two weeks from now for episode eighty Bye Bye Bye Yellow Cab Go Room Power Story