Fire Escape Cast #60

Hello, everyone, welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It is drum roll both of you do it? Oh that's not a drum roll A why the hand was the drum? And then my voice are just getting excited. Let's start over dru roll please both of you. It makes several bakers dozens minus like four? Wait, moved past it plus? Yeah, moved past it. It's episode sixty a fire Escape Cast. You know what they say,

the big sixty. That's the tipping point. That's when you go from the best podcast ever made to the best show ever made of any medium. And I think I'm gonna podcast biz. That's that's they say sixties. Where you starting in your stride. I was on Conan. Conan had me as a guest the other day, and he really had he's a huge fan, and he mentioned to me he admires me most of all. Yeah, wow, you're on the Tonight Show man. That's crazy, crazy thing that's been

He's been the host of the Tonight Show for almost fifteen years now. I got high with Leno the other night too. Yeah. Gross, And I'm made out with leather leathermannim Denham leatherman. He wears denim, not leather denhim is the gene material. Welcome back to the Tonight Show with Denham Leatherman. Leatherman. That's that's your Grays is like cute nickname for each other. Woman. Denham Leatherman, the host of The Last Night Show, took over from

fallon. It's the first time all three of us are back in episode. Yes, and it's been three weeks. Has been a long time. Gallivans all across au Guys Trus challenged my live. We both were GA. I was on a Constlate Gaunt and then show was on show was on a reveren Are up do we like? Do we both have the same voices that I was on the I was on the Almophic cost. I got pizza. It changed my loof that Belgian pizza. That's what they're known for. I had

Belgian pizza and I had some Italian beer. I don't know had Belgian. I had Belgian McDonald's with Jake Jecker, me and the cool judge had some McDonald's and Belgian together. Well that you did that together, the two of you, I know Belgium. That was awesome. I'm so glad it was. It was really fun. So yeah, Jake recount Regald, Regald, Vinnie and I last episode with some stories. But uh, do you talk

about fuck that Pong? No? Well, maybe it was at a comic video game bar that we went to like eight times, and it was a pong table, but it was physical pong. Uh. Things that moved back and forth of the handles and the ball were like foam things with magnets underneath. So there was like a weird delay, like you're spending a knob to move the magnets, which moved the pong above it, and it just felt weird, like pong with real world physics. It was. It was a

lot of fun. I thought you were describing air hockey for a second, and I was not wanting to disappoint you that that was just air hook. It's just just somebody slapped a pong bumper stick around played this game. There's like there's these a bunch of these colored balls and two sticks and a triangle and there's some turf on this flat surface. Oh pool, yes, pool, nice, you've Pokemon pool? Yeah? Yeah, what you went?

I thought you were just saying ping pong and shortened it. You were like, it's physical, and I was like, I know, no, physical. Yeah, I was a rock star table tennis, and then it's virtual. But if it's the Weaver version, then you're getting a little physical. All games are a little physical. Oh likes d of like sports, our game sports. So what would the people that play these games? Yeah, vacatitions. You're gaslating the shut out of me. You started both other times

everyone agreed. It was so peaceful the last two episodes when you two didn't argue. I felt like a dad with good empty nest syndrome, good empty nest syndrome, horny nest syndrome. Your life was hollow without us. We've been gallivanting around the world gaining knowledge, and you're just sitting there an uncultured slut missing Mary. Do you ever do the Polaris on the United going overseas?

No, Oh my god. It's the thing where you can recline all the way and you get your own little pod and they give fancy they give you pajamas and uh and slippers and stuff, and it's, oh my goodness, it's a it's great a specific kind of is it first class? It's above first class. So it's like, no, it hadn't been booked and

normally they're like four thousand dollars tickets. But I waited until like the last second and they hadn't sold any and I saw I could get something for the equivalent of like one hundred and seventy dollars worth of sky miles, and so I just paid with that, and holy it was just an eight hour flight out there, full recline, just tons of space. It's it's just you did you put Jake and coach? Jake flew from Canada Canada. I flew United Chicago. He was like in your luggage? Wait, why was Jake

in Canada before Belgium. We were both supposed to fly and connect in Montreal to go there, but my flight to one of like my connecting flight got canceled, so I had to get routed through Chicago. I got switched over to Chicago and then went out there. But man, I have not flown overseas and white sometimes. Well I did Iceland, but that was like, you know, New York State five hours. That wasn't like that bad. That doesn't feel. Yeah, this was a defe flight and I just don't

want it. With the moving going on for the last several months and all the travel and everything, I just really want to not Mike, I'll apply to your wedding. I think that's about the only thing I want to do for the rest of your in terms of appreciated. You can drive if you want, don't care. I drove, I drove. It was a three day drive coming out to the Midwest here when we came out. So for the for the subset of our audience that doesn't see you anywhere else, I

think this is the first time you're talking about moving. Oh yeah, it's worth bonk. And I and the dogs were moving back to the Midwest, so we were yeah, yeah, we were out there for for rassling, and uh, you know, I don't work for the rassland no more. And so we're moving out to the Midwest. So nice, that makes sense. I think it's stating tacos and whatever what else they known for occasion food. There's burners and tacos and the Midwest. Yeah, burritos, corn out

here, cornos, California. Midwest is burritos, sushi, Italian waffles, and I came back from sushi. Yeah. I think we're just a little bit too mature for this type of humor. Now you're cultured how I had so much wine. How was your trip, Mary? It was pretty transformative for me because I never thought that I would ever go to these places in my life, and because my work took me to Parish, it made sense. I had a girlfriend who works at Twitch as well, who essentially is

an incredible planner. In fact, that's what she does for Twitch. She works on the event planning and was like, I've always wanted to go to the Amalfi Coast. If I booked it and I planned it, would you go to which I was like, Yeah, if you plan this amazing once in a lifetime trip, I will follow you. And we did Paris for Twitch Con, and then we went to Naples, Italy, and then we took a boat to Positano, which is in the Amalfi Coast and it is

probably the most beautiful place I've ever seen in my life. It is a bucket list place your Instagram at. Really it's like postcard level, like it like big hilly houses on the beach. It look it's crazy. Yeah, I don't. I didn't deserve it. When I was walking around here, I was like, I don't deserve to be here because I've done no effort. I did no research, listen to everything, and I was just like, this place is cool. She probably did so much research to be able

to get all the It's not easy to get there. It's a it's a like a flight, then uh, like a bus and then a boat to get there. It's like all these different pieces to be able to exist there because it's it literally is like on the coast. There's the only way to get there is through a boat. And then once you get there, you see how if you look at photos of this coast, it's houses like stacked

on houses. It's just a huge hill. And my Google Maps would say, oh, it's ten minutes to your Airbnb, but it was actually like forty five because everything's so vertical. It's all steps, so you have to do like forty minutes of steps to get to your your place. It was it's exhausting and it's so worth it that you post something about the john Wick

Steps. Yes, I did go see the john Wick Steps. In fact, I was amazed with how many times I saw a beautiful piece of like European history and went John Wick. Uh snapped the guy here, and I kept like it happened like three times I saw your pictures by the Eiffel Tower, and all I can think of when I see the Eiffel towers twist the metal too, So it's amazing how much it happens. Right when I was in the Coast, I kept thinking about hit Man because there's a hit yes,

and that's that's like the coast, that's them Offie Coast. So it's like it's all the same stuff. Man, Like we were every time we'd go to like this gorgeous cathedral, I'd be like, John Wick killed a guy here, this is where he like touched down and was like, you can't kill me. I'm safe. Like I saw a lot of it and

was amazed at how much I referenced it based on John Wick. I mean, I don't think that probably fares well for US Americans that that's how we like remember stuff like in Europe. But it was the easiest way for me to remember the locations that I was at. A couple of my friends did Poston of one leg of their trip or like at the end, and yeah, they loved it. The one thing that didn't throw them off once they got there because they planned for it, was like beaches are clubs. You

have to like serve spots on. Yeah it's expensive. Yeah, but it looked nice based on your photos. Yeah, worth it um super expensive, It's just a lot. I was grateful we had three people who split one spot and so that obviously, like really it's probably the only way we were able to afford it. And we only spent two days in the Almafi Coast because it is expensive. I think the beach the way it works is is, yes, it's a club, and I think it was forty euro a

person and you can't swim without it. So it's like it's essentially forty dollars a day just to just to get him at ocean, and you bet your buns I'm gonna pay it because I'm there now. It's kind of like Disney, right, like, once you're in Disney and they charge you ten dollars for water, you're not gonna be like, well, I won't do it. You're there like it's over man. And speaking of Disney, I also did Paris Disney because I thought that that would be a neat experience, and

I also went with Disney adults. Do they know who Mickey Mouse is? In Europe? Yes? And interestingly enough, real question it was, I mean they barely know who he is in America, so I didn't know if he'd like went across the pond. You're bringing up bringing up an old giant bomb argument or something. Yeah, no, truth about what you're doing. Culture that no one cares about anymore. But anyway, they own, they own relevant pop culture. Mickey Mouse is not that. But anyway, he's

so infamous infamous. Did he killed people? Which he might have? Did you like Paris? I liked Paris. I have heard that I should lower my expectations. You know that it's not like this incredibly gorgeous romance city, so I curbed my expectations going into it. It's a pretty city. Um, and the Eiffel Tower is bigger than I thought it would be. It's big. Yeah, Liberty big, bigger, smaller, way bigger, it's bigger. Uh one World Trade Center big? No, okay, not at

all. Actually, now I'm curious. I think I would estimate like two statue liberties on top of each other. Okay, I'm gonna look us up. I'm curious. A good question. How and funny, funnily enough, the statue of the other statue liberties over in France. Uh, there's its like because it was a gift the sister. Yeah, it looked just like, yeah, what what it's in a look it up? Okay, three hundred and five statue Liberties three hundred and five feet. Eiffel Tower height is

oh in Pont Big Grinnell nine hundred eighty four. Okay, so Eiffel towers like three statues Liberty. That makes sense. It's taller than I thought. I thought it was going to be about the size. With my course strength, it was easy. They had this one France. Does it say the same thing? But I'm like, hey, come here, even if you're hungry and sick or whatever. Does it say the same thing? Say something

different? Pretty sure? Yet that famous slogan get over here, even if you're hungry or sick or whatever, take a nap every toe of your what does it whatever? Refuse of the teaming shore, come here and take a nap. I love Paris. I had my expect I had low expectations in the sense that everybody told me Parisians would hate me because I'm American. But everybody that too, Everyone was really nice to me too. I didn't have any issues, uh with and I don't speak any French and I'm fairly ignorant.

I thought they were very kind and polite to me. I laughed. One time a person in a grocery store was helping me pick a wine and he could barely get through it because he didn't speak that much English and I could didn't speak any French. And when I went to pay for it, I went to the wrong register, and so he was like, it's the it's the wrong register, and I went sorry, and then I heard it.

I heard someone in the store mimic me and went Sammy. And I think they enjoy practicing their English. And when they would hear me say things in my natural way, they enjoyed it and would like mimic me and say it too, either or they were mocking me, but I think they were enjoying it. They mimic mocked Jake Decker in Belgium once because we were doing a travelog for Giant Pong and he had me do like an intro to a thing or say a thing, and then when I rapped, he goes perfect,

and then some guy in like the square. It was just like perfect pafect, the most innocent dude. That's incredible, perfect Daniel. I don't think you were here when Mary told us a quite embarrassing story about how she entered a restaurant in Tokyo. Can I tell this story and then you tell me how accurate it is? Sure? Mary, at the time and maybe still continues to have somewhat of a weird thing about going into restaurants, first at the head of a group. So then finally in Tokyo, at one

point she decided to take the lead. And a lot of the doors going into Tokyo restaurants are sliding, but she didn't know that, so she pushed on this door and just collapsed it, like an entire wall into the restaurant. Wasn't it like that? First? I think you should leave sketch where he's well, it's sort of but no, it's Mary just like pushes and

demolishes a wall. And then the entire restaurant turns and sees this American woman be like sorry, I didn't say that cool catchphrase, and the lady was like get out really yeah in English too, It's like she converted just to tell me to fuck off. Oh wow. Yeah, she was pissed, and I was like, I turned around, I looked at the group and I said I'm never going to be first again. You guys have been traveling and gallivanting for quite some time. But we're back. I've done anything crazy

interesting. It's nice to be home. I really enjoyed my travels. I will say I'm good to be away from my house for about seven days. After that, I miss my dog, I miss my bed, I miss things, and I was gone fourteen days and I genuinely like it was too much for Mary. I don't think I will do that again. Fourteen days was a lot for me, like towards the end of the trip. And as happens apparently, and know this, in Italy, it's very normal and

regular for them to have protests and literally shut down the airport. And guess what, they shut down the airport on my way on my day home out. Yeah, they want better wages and like working conditions people in general, or the airport, the every airport worker like United uniformly protests and just shuts down. And they even announce it. They'll be like, we're protesting on you know, September fourteenth, so heads up. And but the thing is

is the book flights. I don't know that because I don't subscribe to like Italy times, so I don't know. I didn't know what's happening. I did, I know, but I already said it I call you that I know. Um. So I woke up and they canceled by flight and there were no more flights for two days. And I had a panic attack because I want to be in Italy by myself, you know. Alyssa was off to Rome. So I was like, what am I supposed to do? And it technically was a work flight. If that happens, you have to

call your work and be like rebook me. And it was like three in the morning at my work time. It seems like a system. It was a mess. It was a mess. I was so scared. What I ended up doing was a last minute booked a train to Rome so that I could follow Alissa, because I was like, I'm definitely afraid of being alone in like this city by myself. So I followed her to Rome, booked a hotel in Rome, and then I finally got ahold of work and booked a flight out of Rome. And then the next day I got out.

But it was like kind of a freaky last day because I I didn't know what I was doing, and I had all my luggage and I got the last ticket on a train and I had to sit by myself. Once the trip is done, everything and all you have is exhaustion and wanted to get home. And when you have a whole ocean mentally, I was over it. Yeah. I was in Rome. I was in this insanely gorgeous city, and the taxi driver or whatever was like giving like a full review of

the buildings, and I was like, I don't give a shit. I don't even want to be here. I want to go home. And I was the worst, you know, guest in that city. I was such a bad tourist because I didn't care. All I wanted to do was go home at that point. And I think I had one more pizza as like a way to give myself a treat, so that I was easy on myself and that I was up at like five am the next day and out of there. So I saw Rome for like all of forty five minutes. Yeah,

we're starting to actually plan out our honeymoon in France. Yeah, we're aiming for two weeks and I'm super excited. It's going to be great. We're doing a few parts of France, but then I'm like, well, we're thinking of like asking our parents to come live here for a couple, like the two weeks so they can take care of my plan cat cats and stuff. That makes sense. Yeah, you got to have a cat solution for that. We have solutions, But I was like, that long.

I don't want the neighbor that we usually rely on to come watch them. She would be fine. It's just like that's a long time from Yeah, that is a long time. I will say, um, if you're still in the planning stages and you're open to it, I personally from doing the Amalfi Coast, I think it is the most stunning, most beautiful place I

have ever been in my life, and I do recommend it. Yeah, well, we had we had several ideas, like multi country ideas, but then we're like, no, France, I mean, France has more than enough. We're we're basically at the point now we're trying to figure out whether we want to do Riviera like nice Anti book Can or Central Pay in part of it. But we're doing Bordeaux and we none of this is concrete.

We're doing. We want to do Bordeaux Paris, maybe a few parts like like a Provence, which Amanda knows, but we're sticking to France because then we want to do like a big Italian thing at some point. Can I also recommend something nudydd Yes, I saw a nude review in Paris and it was amazing, Like, yeah, it's called Crazy Horse and it's an all nude art like a dance I guess, um burlesque maybe, but they don't take off their clothes their naked like they're not they're not teasing you. It's

really crazy about it. Um stunningly beautiful women obviously, so that you got they got that going for them, but then they're they're just kind of cheeky humor littered throughout, Like as the show opens, it kind of like lifted the curtain midway. I don't know even know how they did that. They like lifted the curtain only halfway up and it was just like eight butts and they were all dancing, and I really really recommend it. I was blown

away with how artsy, how beautiful. It's very thoughtful. The music numbers, the dance numbers are are like perfectly done, but also they're like wicked hot naked ladies. You can't beat it's crazy horse. Sweet, we'll go to that. We're down single asshole. I didn't see one asshole. You

Belgium was promised assholes. You know where they are. Yeah, they're not fooling anyone that customs on the way out, just put like right in my passport, I saw zero anuses if they stamp and the stamp is looks like an anus one of course, yeah in ink in case that wasn't obvious. You know you probably your but whole is probably very similar to that. I don't think you could like use it to like unlock your iPhone. No, I'm saying like it could be a calling card that tell you from experience.

My butt is bigger than just my thumb. It's at least three of my fingers. I'll just say that the whole. The whole allows for U full got a situations been doing? Oh I'm in Kansas, so I've been having plenty of that looks like an in room here I'm in Kayla's basement while I'm waiting for my house to close. Yes, Uh, it's all I have to say. If you're not going to be in your home, you're in a space that really looks like it could be Yeah, this is Kayla's set

up here. Yeah, it's She's got her whole deal going on here. This is where she streams from. UM. Lots of lots of Paul I've been doing dealing with he bought. Here's his exciting thing he did. His new scheme is he found eleven pairs of dog socks. They're just socks with like cartoon dogs on them, and they were on clearance. And he's like, I'm gonna buy all of these dog socks and sell them on eBay for fifteen dollars each. And so he did that, and he was like telling

me, he's so excited about it. And so I go and I buy one for fifteen dollars. But I set the shipping address as his address, and he got super excited when its soul its oh I got I just sold one. He's like, what, you asshole. So I said, listen to dad, this is a simple operation. Now. I paid for it, just like any customer would. I just need you to do the stupid thing and mail it to yourself. I have bought this legally. I need a tracking number. I now hold the feedback keys in my hands, and

I need a train. And he's like, no, I'm just just come over here and I'll give them to you. And it's a Dad, I don't want them. I want you to have to do a stupid thing and mail these socks to yourself. That's what I want. Otherwise, look, i'm buyer here, you're the seller. I can leave negative feedback. He's like, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna that's so stupid. I'm not gonna mail these socks to myself. And so I message him on an eBay. On eBay, he's saying, Hey, I'm super excited for

these socks. Can you provide a tracking number when they ship? And then he goes full like big boys serious voice and he goes, Dan, you can't do this shit. eBay can monitor messages. This could ruin my credibility with the site. That's like, that's a normal message, Dad, I just said I'm excited. Can he send the tracking message? And did he send that to you in a different way? And he was like called yeah, yeah. He's like, dude, they can monitor my message. This

isn't funny thing. Okay, yeah, I'm sure this is all real funny. Everything's funny to you when it's not your livelihood on the line. Dad, I bought them. You you were selling them. You were gonna have to ship them anyway. This is a win win for you. You can ship them to yourselves, then you get my money, and then you can sell them again. But he just refused to because he thought it was too

stupid, so we just canceled the order. I mean, it is stupid, and you know for a fact that you did put him in a weird spot, even though yes, when you walk through the logic, it's like, yeah, he made an extra fifteen dollars, but you know that's not how He's got just one of them to do a very stupid thing, and I was willing to pay for it, like fucking mailed fifteen hundred live ladybugs to my office desk. We had a periodic, And when I say we,

I mean one of my co workers she took an interest. She had a periodically release them, like a hundred at a time or something. Otherwise they just collapse in on themselves as a colony. I don't know how it works. I'm not a ladybug expert. I'm out of that game. I'm out of the ladybug shipping game. We have an appointment with the dog or sorry cat doctor this week. How that cat became a doctor is anyone's guest, though, I do that joke a lot. It's been fun though.

We had Vinny on last week, Me, Jake and Vinnie held down the fort. We had you and two jerks. Huh, Jake and Benny just too just straight up assholes, real big jerks. Yeah. Well that notorious curses were flying, fists flu good dudes, feet were loosed. That sounds like a pretty good crew, it does. Yeah, and Mary have to have to worry it all we're gonna get Yeah, I'd worry. Yeah, I would worry. If I was you, I would worry all the time.

I'm not worried. Baby's a top notch. I'm trying to think people like podcasts with over the years, he's got to be on the mount Rushmore. I think he's he's a great guy to do a podcast with. Oh my god, how how are you going to find a forty something white guy that plays video games and talks into a microphone about it? Dime a dozen my ass trying to find another one. I could replace you. I can tell you. I can talk about a link to the past and super Metroid.

Find someone else who can do that, Okay, I will, there are no anywhere else. Let me just go get the naughty I guess fits the build, oh grub and I guess. Okay, well there's like four or five of us. Yeah, you should make a site based on that. Oh, I guess you're in a podcast from anywhere now? Yeah, you can do remote. You should make a site. We'll branch off from wherever you're working now and then make a site and then get bought back.

Oh, and then and then play hit Man with some kandomized find someone who hasn't played Metal Year Solid can yeah, play the sims and kill everybody. Uh huh that sounds pretty good. Yeah, it'd be fun. These are some good ideas Hereoster. Yeah, I think this this bit is played out. Yeah, I think so you want to go for another like thirty minutes. Yeah, what other shows you guys do? It's another famous thing? Mary stop us? No? Oh what else? What else? In Kansas?

Oh? I'm kind of lotion up my legs and feet now with plamine lotion because I was trying to cut through the woods and I ran through a bunch stuff and I got a bunch of chigger bites all over my er bites. I think this is a I don't it's not just kanzas. I don't think. Yes, they are very very tiny red bugs and they I am just eating up all my feet and legs and stuff. I had to go to urgent care today and get a bunch of stuff and it looked, yeah,

legs were completely on fire. What were you doing amongst the trees? Well, it's one hundred and five degrees here in Kansas, and I went on a two hour walk through a park and I was like, there's no tree covers at all, and I was just burning up. I was like, and I didn't have any lotion or anything on. So I'm just like burning so bad, and I'm like, I need to get in some tree

cover. And so I tried to cut through the woods and there was a kind of a trail, but it also was like really muddy because it had just rained that morning, and so I it was covered in mud and then up my feet and everything. We're getting just bit up by chiggers the whole time. And then like two days later, I'm just like, it's just a fucking mess down there. So and I wasn't even able to use the shortcut. I had to go back to the road and burn up and everything.

So God, yeah, it gets hot here, gets really really hot. It's been hot everywhere. I think it's been hot as hell here too. I mean not that hot, but hot. We're getting We're getting close to a hundred tomorrow supposedly till meno. Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, but apparently El Nino came earlier than planned this year or this cycle, however it works. I don't know. I'm not a meteorologist. I'm just the best god damn ladybug doctor in the entire world. I

could see you as him. No, you would be the lead news guy. You shave your facial hair? Uh and do you have a news voice? Welcome back to Evening News at nine. I'm Chud Fuckers. I will just said like fourteen things at once. Chudus. Chud Fuckers, an eleven year olds was an eleven year old stabbed his father to death because his father quote made him order sucks to his own own house. This is more an you know with sports, Dano. It's probably the World Cup time. Yep,

they're playing right. I got very small seasons. The World Cup US is playing Netherlands right now. Oh okay, I hope they win or else this one eighthwel he's not a very good sports guy for you to tell them that. Over the weather, I had no idea. I learned something every day over the weather with Marvin Garvey. I brought my own Mike. Thanks Marvin, get your let's pivot. Let be a news organization, local news done remotely from three different time zones. Jud fuckers, look up the look

up the stories that are breaking around my neighborhood. There are twelve armed sailants outside of my apartment right now. Can you be in a silent if you haven't a salted anybody yet? Is that the definition of an assailant? You could have like assailant vibes, but I don't think you can be charged for that. You know what a good SNL sketch was? Was Will Ferrell? And I think it was clown Penis dot Art. No Tim Meadows with the weather man like, oh the blood spraying thing, Will Farrell be heads.

I think it was Tim Meadows and I said the weather man is dead. He's on the teleprompter, goes out. No one knows what is good morning Terry finding that very funny. Yes, it's fun The best Will the best Will Farrell SNL sketch ever is the he's just singing It's the most wonderful time of the year on that spinning platform and then eventually he just starts slowly projectile vomiting because he's on a spinning platform while he has to finish singing the song

that is Evergreen. Any SNL sket from back in the day when they would have the hose attached to their their sleeve and just the cartoon vomit like that pops was good. Yeah. But the thing about that and like a dummy, you know, like when like a dummy gets like thrown from a window, is it doesn't matter how fake it looks. That's like a part of the gage, And it adds to how funny it is because it's so stupid. I love the the puke tube and throwing a really crapy looking dummy.

A blood spurred if a hand or a head gets cut off, a good blood spur, it's very good. Oh yeah, and it's just like us. It's like it doesn't it doesn't really look like anything. It's just like one tube of blood coming out yeah, puke tube is reminding me of Nathan Fielder's chili dispensing apparatus. Yes, yes, it's horrendous. I hate the ore when he's like, what is he doing? He's filling up his glass of whiskey with a tube that's like actually just like sugar water so he doesn't

get drunk. When he's trying to lure people over the antique shop. Oh right, because he's trying to get him drunk and wear a sumo suit through the china. It's the stupidest, the best TV. It's just pizza under a heat lamp at the end of a very expensive aisle of antiques. Yes. Do you guys want to talk about video games? Yeah? All right, Dan, really quick before we talk about what you've been playing regularly. I guess might be the right phrase. We talked to Jake about Balder's Gate

three. Actually, if you're listening to this episode the day it goes up, people who pre ordered Balder's Gate or have had the early access version, I believe can be playing it today. But I'm as Vinny and Jake and I were gushing about how excited we are for that game. I'm curious what you think because I know you're not really into capital RPG role playing games most

of the time. No, And I'm also not into anything that is Like, if I see the words dungeons and dragons, that's just code for I'm going to be confused and not understand what any of this stuff is or means. So I never ever gave a second thought the Balder's Gate. You know, I never had the computer for it. I played the PS two co op action games, but like didn't know shit about out the actual game. And I'm sure Jake had probably went into like greater detail. I'm sure if

he talked about it. I'll just say, from my perspective, it seems less impenetrable than I think I assumed. I think it seems incredibly sharply made. I was really impressed by Like, for a game that has a ton of dialogue in it, it seems like it handles it really well. Like everything animates really well. The vo and lip syncing and the facial expressions and everything are great. It seems like there are so many different outcomes to damn

near any conversation you have in that game. It's I've said for a long time that I don't think video game writing is good when it tries to do comedy. I just think as an industry, like for some reason, we suck at it. But this was actually funny. There were like numerous things during my time with it in the presentation where it's like, oh, Okay, this game gets what it's doing and it's like super funny. And the

amount of customization. I know they like trumpeted up the amount of endings and all that stuff, but it just seems like there's a million different ways to play the co op element. I haven't played at all. I would love to check that out. Like it's I came away very impressed by what I saw and like it went from not at all on my radar to being like okay, I would need some time, you know, to really sink into

it. It's not something that I feel like I could just dabble in from time to time, but buying a chunk where I didn't really have anything to play and I wanted to really dive in, Like I could see myself playing that this year, which is August. I mean, they were that was a really I think that was a good move on their part to get away from Starfield more. I mean, PS five versions launching on the same day as Starfield now unless you pre ordered Starfield. But the co op seems super

fun because as opposed to like Original Sin Too. Even the co op is great and Original Sin Too. I loved it. However, at the end of the day, it still did sometimes feel like three or four people playing their own campaigns and then kind of convening between them to move forward. That it wasn't always the case, but Bad's Gate three looks like, based on some co op I've seen and tried out, you can actually be fucking with

other people's quests and it actually feels like a cooperative campaign. Looking forward to that but nice. Also, your party's not locked after the first act, so it's more keep describing it to people as like, I think it'll be great for BioWare fans who have felt short changed for like fifteenish years. Now you're just like gathering this party of companions, getting to know them. You

can romance some like, you know. Even the animations in these dialogue cut scenes remind me of like Mass Effect two and three, the way they animated everything speak of that what is like I know this isn't really my genre, but like was Mass Effect to the last, like pretty universally loved BioWare game, Like, what have they made since then? Mass Efect three? They

made a dragon Age Inquisition and sty mass Effect. Oh Anthem sucked. Andromeda, Yeah, I mean Andromeda, mass Effect three and Inquisition all have their fans. But the last, like the last like universally loved BioWare game, I would say, is probably mass Effect two. Yeah, which was twenty ten, thirteen years all right, yeah, and you know like who you know they have? Yeah mass Effect? Well yeah, Larry and is coming to take that, hopefully take that crown for a bit, because we don't

know where is going on with mass Effect four or dragon Age four. Have they announced a new mass Effect? Those are both in the works. Well, dragon Age is definitely in the works, and I think mass Effect four is assumed in many ways. I got to catch up on some news there,

but it didn't a lot of people like a lot of people. There's turnover at by Way, right, like a lot of the like original like that team has gone, right they were struggling for a bit, Yeah, I mean no, yeah, the original team has been gone for a while, but even lately, like Anthem felt like it kind of and I enjoyed Anthem on a mechanical level, but yeah, they that definitely was a dark

spot on their resume. And I feel like there's just been a lot of like, you know, Massfect three I thought was pretty good, but I know, yeah, I like it, certainly not universally loved. And then the things past that, specifically Anthem and and Raw to seem to be just like pretty universally panned. Right. Uh, yeah, there are defenders for um Andromeda and they've updated apparently, but yeah, it wasn't. I really disliked it. I thought it was boring. Um, well cool. What

else you've been playing besides that? Pickman four? Have you either played this now? Oh my god, I know that. I know that I just did it. Though I feel like we, I think, just video game fans and the press in general, I think we've just been kind of sleeping on how goddamn good Pickman is was on the WIU, like the last three was on the WIU. Correct, So like, now that more people are playing this, it's like kids like it. It's like a kids thing.

Well, it's like, what was it? What was the game was that last year? Tiny Kin when I was tiny can people are like, basically this is basically Pickman. Yes, I just never played a Pickman because I didn't play the one on was the first one on GameCube. First two were on GameCube. They've both had we updates with new play control and then we drawn we You, and then they put out Deluxe on and now they're all

on Switch. But I didn't realize how much of it was like I played Overlord, but I have not played a Pickman game kind of like commanding that little army of Lemmings but for puzzles and some light real time strategy elements, but also just a lot of just like kind of zen collecting from what people have told me. Yeah, there's not a lot of pressure at all. I know once in the past have had a thing where it's like, oh, you've got like thirty days of you know before that they need to take

off of this plan and otherwise you just fail. This one is not that way. There is still like a day night cycle type thing, and you need to get your pickmen to the ship before it takes off at the end of the day or you lose them. But you just have to accept that you're gonna lose pickmen, like it sucks, and the way they animated and the sounds and everything make it as horrifying as possible. What are the sounds?

Well, for instance, like today I was taking off and I had like I had a party of sixty Pickman and you know, when the sun's going down, you're trying to gather them all to get back to the ship because otherwise if they're left behind, it's not good. So I had fifty nine of them and I wasn't able to get the last one in time.

So there's this like animation of me and all the Pickman I saved getting into the Onion, the spaceship and taking off, and it's this top down view and then you see the one little guy that you left behind and right now like like waving at the ship like like a kid who missed the bus. And then a giant like crab, like three crabs came in and the big one just took it within the pincers and just ate him. And then his little Pickman's spirit, his little baby Pickman Sir, just comes out. It's

the most fucking heartbreaking and terrifying sh shows his soul leave his body. Every time a Pickman dies, you see the soul leave the body. It's not just in this one. That has been a long time thing in the series, and it's heartbreaking every fucking time. I have watched thousands, if not

tens of thousands of Pickman's souls leave their bodies as they perished. It looks like the outline of a Pickman, but it's just kind of like ghostly, and it's like hollow eyes and it just floats away its heaven towards Pickman heaven. It's white. Yeah, that's not his soul. Oh my my goodness.

This does not sound like a game for kids as they die. That's also stressful, Like the idea of leaving them behind alone is like already sad and distressful, right, But you might be like, you know, maybe he had a good life, maybe he learned, you know, good lessons down there and was happy. But in the same shot showing a kid eating as a friends and yeah, yeah, take off, it's fucking terrible. Uh. You mentioned for kids, which reminds me some more Paul Rakert wisdom.

My head was he was telling me that they still make the weed, and I was like, no, Dad, they don't. They don't make the wee anymore. And he was, well, sure they do. I mean it was a huge success. Of course they don't keep making them. And I was like, I'm telling me, Dad, they don't, and he goes, Dan, listen, not everyone lives in your little bubble where you have to have the fancy, knewest you know, super switch and spend

five hundred dollars. Some normal people just want to spend less money and still play some video games. And so that's why they're still making the Week And I was like, well, they haven't made one since like twenty thirteen, but I guess you would know more than me. And then I asked him to get about it last night and uh he said, like he's I handed them a Switch controller and he was like, see, like this can't be like kids don't play the switch And I was like, what are you talking

about? This which is like super popular with like all ages, Like no, like kids would this would be way too confusing for a kid. These controllers. It's got points on it. This controller's got points and it's for a little kid hands like they they're using the Wiimote and it's like, oh, okay, so he's a kid that playing with iPads when they're like a year old. Now, yeah, yeah, he understand how this stuff works.

He thought the switch controller was too confusing and pointy and uh and that they're just playing the weed So apparently I didn't know it's projecting because he can't understand the controller. Yes, and for most older people, the Wei remote was like I get it. It's like an extension in my hand, and when I flick it up, it's like bowling. I get that, like

everybody's parents could like comprehend bowling. And now that we're going back to like games where you have to understand X, Y, B and A, parents are reverting back to like, oh I ain't learning that ship, like let me know if you want a fake bowl again. The fuck up thing is that he plays super megab Baseball. Well, he plays super Mega Baseball two, even though I bought him three and four, but he won't ever play

those because he four is awesome. He thinks it's kind of like he has to switch a cartridge out or a chip as he calls it, but he doesn't. It's downloaded anyway. But he plays plays whist switch controllers, so he understands that he's played Breath the Wild for like two hundred hours. But he's just like, oh, kids couldn't figure this out, and the kids don't play the switch. Okay, Anyway, every once in a while, because I have my Steam up and you know, like it lets you know

what your friends are playing. Almost every day when I'm working, I will get a little notification that my dad is paying is playing Peglin, which is a game I bought him like four, like three years ago. He fucking loves that game. And I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know why he likes so much, but it makes me really happy because like I was the one who gave him that game. And every day and it's almost like always around like ten am, I'm like working and I'm probably gonna start

a meeting and I'll get a little notification. I'm like, oh, my dad's at his job too, because he's retired. He's just like playing oh yeah full time now. But here's my question, what is both of your peglan What is your weird specific game that like, obviously we're not going to be embarrassed to be playing a specific game over and over, but like, what is the that weirdly specific game you keep going back to? I mean,

we know about Mike Tyson. But that's like, that's such an obscure Yeah, and this is not obscure by any means, but like any any time of day, I could pick up Twist Metal too and play a campaign and have a blast. You know, I love it. That's not obscure, but it's you know now, Yeah, mine's mind's more recent. They are Billions the Zombie. That's like the most calming zen just everything I loved about every RTS, like turtling and being defensive. That's they've made that game

for me. So I go back to it all the time. I've never I have not uninstalled it on his PC since I put it on there in like twenty nineteen. This is also not obscure. But I still go back to Rocket League. It is a comfort game. Yeah yeah, uh, And I will reinstall it because it's been like, you know, six months to a year, and they'll be like, I want to play it. I can. I have I told you about you talk about Dylan on Giant Bomb right back of ours kid? Oh yeah's a punk? Yeah yeah,

he well no, I like he cracks me up. But they this was months ago and they stopped by here and came over to hang out, and then we went out to dinner. We were just like they had not been here three minutes, and we were talking in the kitchen and Dylan was sitting at the Brex bar and just interrupted. I forget who it was, just saying, I'm this is boring. Yeah, And then so we had to come back here and I had to install Rocket League for him to keep him

entertained while we went back to the kitchen to hang out and talk. That's what Mary reinstalling Rocket League remind me. I was Dylan demanding that I installed Rocket League because he was this boring? Yeah, yeah, I was. I was at Backlar's place a month or two ago with Grub and we're sitting on the couch while Dylan plays roadblocks and he starts face timing with the kid he's playing roadblocks with, and the kids like, who are the who's behind

you? It's like, oh, it's my dad and it's two friends. It's just like so it's like three bad YouTubers. But no not but kids. Kids really know how to cut. Yeah, but they know the thing about you that will just rip you to shreds m yeah, and they'll just say it. They'll just say it to your face. Yeah yeah, uh yeah, like you said like comfort games and stuff like that. Like I thought that phrase like comfort food a lot with Pickman four because it is not

high stress, it is not high stakes or anything. They've added a ton of quality of life improvements. There's just so much stuff where it's like, oh, I bought this upgrade to where it now like any idole Pickman will come right to me and you get this dog och that you can like order him around and he'll like scoop up all the straight Pickmen from around there,

or he can go go do one thing while you're doing something else. It's not as much of you remember Pickman three had this kind of division of like you're controlling several different characters at once. This is like you are you and you can switch to the dog. But it's just kind of those two. But there is there's a new mode that I love called Dan Dorri Battles and it's like a two player split screen thing. I've not played locally yet.

Kaylage's bought it, so we're gonna do something against each other. But it's like a real time strategy light where you both start with like you know, a certain amount of red Pickman and you're on the same physical like battlefield with there's enemies, there's pellets, there's like treasures, and it kind of cycles between high value treasures like lemons are worth times two points or you know, pumpkins are worth this, and so you are scrambling to like get more stuff

than your opponent and bring it back to your onion. And it's just this really fun push and pull, like literally like you'll see the opponent's dog and a bunch of pickmen pulling like a big ass, you know, strawberry towards their onion, and you'll just fuck you. You've got four pickmen and dog. I'm gonna do twenty pickmen and a dog, And you see them doing like tug of war until it breaks and you can I get bombs and delivered

to the other person's onion. There's Mario Kart style like power ups. It's a super super cool mode even against like the CPU during the story. Um so I'm one hundred percent in this game. Like I've always liked Pickman, but I've played them through when they came out, never played them again, never really thought or remembered much about them other than a general sense of enjoyment this one. I'm like, I am fucking one hundred percent of this game.

There's like the normal daytime stuff, there's these new kind of cave sections, there's a there's this night time stuff you can do with these different type of like glow Pickman. It is. It is the best Pickman, I think, and if you have not played one, I think this is like an ideal jumping on point. I check it out. I need I'd like like a among some other things I'm playing, I'd like a more mindless, more mindless games, not not mindless, Yeah, when it's more more like

fluid than a lot of like the dense strategy stuff I've been playing. It's an easy one to pick up and be like, I'm going to do one day on the surface and then I'm gonna call it like or you can sit down. I've played it five six hours at a time before, or I picked them and like, I'm gonna spend twenty minutes and just do like one day and get a couple of treasures and then put it down. It's it's great for both of us. Cool. Can I check it out? It's

high high on my top games of the year, right now amazing. Nice mine, Uh, there's mine. I'm not going to spoil what my current is, but oh man, I can't. I guess by the time people are listening to this, I've been playing ballders Gate three. I've got some contendees for Goadie already for sure. I don't know if we want to get into that yet. Save it for December. We're gonna flight soon. We

gotta get some logistics together on that. That's pretty wild. I actually need stressed about it because you know how, like Dan, when you do it, you have like different camera angles and stuff like. I don't know if I'm going to be able to like swing that much coolness. I think you guys are just going to be shoved into this closet with me. I mean, we can do whatever setup you got or different different camera in the fire escape, or I'll be in a new house in a new city if you

guys want to come there. So it's I'm game for that if you guys want to do that, but Portland doesn't. One of the main reasons I want you to come to Portland is specifically so that I can get tickets to die Hard the Musical. Every year they do it, and every year, I really every time I see it, I always think Mike would love this. It's really good, and you text me during every year the show. Every year it's really good. And I've seen the same show like three times

now. It's amazing. Anyway, if if I can swing it, I specifically want you to come, just that I can get those musical ticket and do that. I want to do a makemdimons. Wait, I've I'm looking forward to Portland if we make it happen, I want to be putting in a padded room and the doctors feed me mushrooms. Oh yeah, wait yeah, oh yeah you did tell us that, didn't you. Yeah, that's my legitimate plan. When have you been to Portland? No, I'm gonna

go there and do dude, petwan Is whack both of you. Cartland's fine. I've been once for four nights with Jake. We're shooting a video at the time with the Developer that you come from vacation and that's how we get you. You come from vacation, You're like this place rules, and then you know bike city. Yes, it's a heavy all they talk about biking, biking, we're really annoying. It's micro brewery, biking spoops, but were actually very known for our strip clubs. Like we have so many strip

clubs per where what are the address? Blow? Oh god, so I know not to go. Where are they? And they're all really good and the girls are like super tattooed and if they don't like you, they just yell at you. It's great. Super tattooed strippers is like covered in tattoos from head to toe and they and they and they just kind of don't take

ship from it anyone. I think. I think it's really cool. Like if a guy is annoying, they'll just grab them and be like I don't like you, and I'm like your face and I don't like your money, get out, and everyone will be like, she's aku partland life, Mala. So when I went on my trip, I had a very difficult decision to make because I was still playing Dave the Diver and I'm also playing Zelda. But those are different consoles for me, and I didn't want to bring

my switch and my Steam deck. That just felt like a lot to run around with. I ended up bringing my switch and played Zelda throughout the whole trip. I probably put in a good uh, twenty five maybe even thirty hours during the trip, because obviously I played it on both flights I flew, when I was flying to Italy and when I flew home, all of those I was I was playing it. So I put a lot of hours into Zelda over the trip. I haven't beat it, but I could.

I am choosing to like dick around at this point. It's I mean, there's just like really probably nothing else for me to say. I think it's so good, and I was like loving it. When I got home, I immediately was like, I've had enough Zelda, and I picked up my steam Deck and put way more hours into Dave of the Diver. So I've been playing both of those right now. I know this feeling of like wanting because they're both such good airplane consoles. But even in the case the travel

case, like the steam Deck is kind of a beefy boater. You know, it'll take you up a lot of a carry on it like you slide in a switch and some headphones and stuff in there, and suddenly you're you're full. That was a part of the decision. It was a very difficult decision because I was also thinking, so I was early stages into Dave of

the Diver. I think I'd probably put four or five hours in a day of the Diver at the time of this, and so I was like, I could easily put like a lot of time into more time into day. I was more interested in playing Dave of the Diver. But here was my like worry, if Dave the Diver, which is an indie game, is like twenty hours long and I beat it, all had to download a new game on the Steam Deck, I won't know if it'll be good, and

I'll be frustrated. And what ended up like my decision was decided when I was like, I could easily put forty five more hours into Zelda. Sure, I probably could put one hundred hours into Zelda. So I knew that if I brought my switch, I would be satisfied for the whole trip and never question it or worry about having to download another game. And that's why I that's why I ended up going with the switch. But as soon as I got home, I picked up that Day of the Diver and I fucking

played the shit out of that game. That's on my shortlist. I started it one night, but I played like thirty minutes and I was super tired. So like I understand the loop of the like Okay, you're you're fishing, you're at the sushi restaurant. But like I definitely am not played enough to like get a sense of like it's a rogue light, right is it?

Or is it some management sim? It's a management sim, but it is a rogue So I don't think it's a rogue light because it's more like Stardo Valley, like if you die resets, Yeah, you don't lose everything. You just lose the fish that you went down there that day, you know how like when you go to the mines and start do and it's like if you get if you get too hurt, then you lose that. But

it's not like you lose your house. They don't like repo your horse the next day and you lose some items or something, right, Yeah, So Dave the diver is the same. If you get hurt or you don't get air in time, they find you and you lose every item that you went down there for, and that does suck because you can only um dive twice a day and you are going to sell that fish that night. So if you get killed both trips. You can't make money. It's a it's a

stall, but it's not that punishing. Once you learn the rules of the water, you can really get away with it. I got now that I've put in like fifteen hours or so. First of all, that game opens up. I thought it was just like dive selfish. There's so much more going on. It's crazy. It's not. This isn't a spoiler to say that. It's like, yeah, it's you're diving. It's like a fishing simulator, kind of Arcady phishing simulator. Then you're bringing that to the sushi

restaurant, and then it's like Overcooked Light as a single player thing. Then all of a sudden you're meeting this like anime obsessive who is making really into making weapons, so you're salvaging stuff from underwater to bring to him to make new guns to shoot bigger fish. And then all of a sudden you're encountering this like conspiracy theorist. And then there's an underground civilization and then aliens come. Like it just keeps opening up, and it just management opens up.

Two. Yeah, not only is there a sushi restaurant, there's also a fish farm and then and then a freaking rice farm. Yeah, it's a lot. It's funny. I have a feeling I will need to play a bunch of this before a Game of the Year because I'm sure it's gonna come up based on like everyone I've talked to you that has played it likes it a lot. Mary, obviously you like it a lot. It's you were here, Jake, Me, Vinnie and Jake I think talked about it.

I'm so you've all been playing. Yeah, it's it's everyone's been playing it, but I've been moving for two and a half years. You've been seeing the souls leave, but I don't. I'm doing it now. I've been May get Mike, Let's let's just a touch on Zelda real quick before we're talking. Okay, I'm not going to spoil anything. Mary. I did the thing that you were talking about where it's like I could have beaten it, and then I was like, no, I want to do more.

I got way more I want to do before. I want to see credits and be done with this for a bit. Um. So I probably put it off for thirty hours, like actually beating it. Um But I had heard this hyped up a lot it didn't get spoiled for me, but a lot of people are saying, like, this is probably my favorite Zelda ending. This is one of the best video game endings ever. Like it was built up up in a major, major way. Who was saying that that's

the best video game endings ever. I've heard some game review a mutual friend of ours said that Mike already and what really? Yeah? Yeah, and so it was. It was hyped up quite about me and I saw it and I'm like, yeah, okay, that's like that is a top top tier video game ending, and maybe its top three Zelda endings ever. For sure. It's like wind Waker, this are you talk about like the actual story resolution or how I've never given a shit about the story? It was

Oh okay, yes, the actual yea, yeah. It is like brand in a way that Zelda endings sure think about. Like you know, Okareina ends and the castle's crumbling and you're running out there and it's like a fun set piece thing and everything, but this wakery stabs him the forehead. I don't know, that's the thing. I popped huge for that, but it's this was like, what did you say? Oh God, I forgive what

I'm used to talking to wrestling people. Sorry, I'm sorry. I don't mean they're upt I mean no, no, it's but I need reminders from time to time that not everyone knows wrestling language. Yes, it sounds like a sexual thing. That's you heard me right, um, But no, the the the actual ending thing with a game play and everything. Yeah, holy shit, this is awesome. H It is better than Breath of the Wild and damn near every way it is. Just I think it's the best

game of all time. I've said it several times, Like I think it's a better game than Breath of the Wild, but like I do still think Breath of Wild is way more important and impactful. Yeah. That that's what's tough, because like I do believe that this is the best game of all time. I don't know, like I compare it to like my personal experience with Breath of the Wild, and it's hard to like for sure, and

Tears the Kingdom is better. But in terms of favorite it's like Breath the Wild was so like it was such a revelation, like people didn't know what to expect from an open world Zelda, and then it was Breadth of Wild and so you can't recreate that. It's it's tough. It's like, you know, I ran into this when I was reviewing games a Game Informer, where it's like I were to review Super street Fighter four, which is objectively

a better game than street Fighter four. It's everything that made street Fighter four good with some new characters and new stages and more moves. It's just like it's an upgrade, but it's like, Okay, street Fighter four got a nine point five. This is a better game, but it doesn't have that

same impact of like, holy shit, Street Fighters back. So it's like people would argue all the time my comments and ship where it's like, well you say this is this better and street Fighter four, but you give it a nine point two five, and it's that is just it's a hard thing to juggle. Is that that impact and the surprise factor and all that stuff,

and that very much is what's going on with Breath the Wild. Here's the Kingdom, Here's the Kingdom is better in every way, I think, But Breath the Wild was the first of that kind of Zelda, So yeah, it's not as magical, it didn't have Yeah that it wasn't that much of a surprise as much of a surprise as a breadth of wild So no, yeah, I agree on all Friends. Yeah, Tears the Kingdom,

it's a god. So much of that happened during that review Fervor that, but I remember the ending being like, Okay, yeah, this is fucking this is sick. They go for it and like it's it's grand in a way that Zelda has has usually not gone that at the end. Yeah, and it's still like thematic for that game too. Yeah, um I have What have I been? I've been playing Day of the Diary. Between stuff, I talked about Age of Wonders four, which has been a very very

fun. That's kind of the game I'm playing the most now four x Grand Strategy from Triumph Studios when a paradox Interactive Studios and I talked about Jake and Vinny. You're creating your own race like Civilization, and then you are playing this kind of civilization hex based strategy game, but you're also just kind of

watching fun shit happen. It's kind of like a cross between Crusader Kings three and Civilization where things will be going according to plan, but then all of a sudden, this Empire of toad people that hates magic like it is really pissed because you just like cast this spell over this part of it's really like high fantasy bullshit. But I'm enjoying it just for like the emergent stuff that's

happening outside of that though. Yeah, David Divers, I'm going back to and then I'm just really fucking game wise clearing my schedule for Balder's Gate. I can't wait to CRPGs or one of those genres, the few genres I can still play that. I'm like, all right, I can put a few, like five hours into this at a time. You just kind of I think you get the most out of those games when you are really just like enveloping yourself in them for a while. Mary, you play anything else?

What else did I write down? I've been splitting my time between Zelda and Dave the Diver. I think that's where I've predominantly been right now. I think they're both exceptional. I think that's it for me. Dan, you and I both been playing Viewfinder as well. I forgot that I played Viewfinder for a couple of days. It's not that I disliked it and put it down. It's just id it's really, in my opinion, phenomenal puzzle game. Yes, and then it's just something you can move on from.

It was nice for Yeah, it's short too. It's definitely for those that don't know. It's in that vein of like Portal, Tallos Principal Witness, like first person puzzle game. It's a it's it's got that. It's got a really cool gimmick where it's like you're taking these pictures or you're aligning pictures and things like that, and the world itself is changing based on the pictures and how you align them, so you can like create bridges out of a

polaroid that you basically place in the environment. You're kind of building the level as it goes along, and it really works. The gimmick works great. The thing that I really didn't like about this this finished release is the narration and the like story element stuff. I just feel like it didn't need it. I mean, like in Portal, it was additive. It was a really good story. It was very funny. This is everything from the acting

to the writing to the actual content of what they're saying. It's just really just kind of cheesy in a bad way. And I feel like the game would be a lot more atmospheric and better off for it if it didn't have that constant voice going on. Yeah that they've talked on Steam and in trailers about how there is this meta layer all a portal and glad us that that shit, and it honestly reminds me of like the worst. It reminds me of like a poor Assassin's Creed metastory. It's like, why you don't need

this. I'm in fucking Victorian era London, fucking knifing dudes who are enforcing child labor, Like I don't want to go back to this modern day and actually I'm a sucker for that modern day storyline, but it doesn't need it, and viewfind it reminded me and I was like, oh, come on, like just let me, let me do this. Yeah. The puzzles are very good though, like I mean, it's it's it's if you like

those type of puzzles. I haven't checked to see people like just turn off the dialogue or anything, but maybe you can just do that and play the puzzles and have a good time. But there's there's some really cool ideas there. Yeah, and mechanically it's fairly deep. Like once you can figure out some of the battery hacks when you need batteries and you got a photo of a battery, yeah, or you could take a photo of a battery and then bring it with you when you do need one later on, put it

on the floor. Yeah. Very briefly, I'll just say I played a little bit of Remnant too for a giant bomb quick. Look, it's perfectly competent in terms of, like if you just want to find a game to talk to your friends and shoot shit with while you're doing it, like, it's it's it's good for that. Like the shooting is good. It's just

everything about the the environments and the story and the dialogue. It's all just very like you've seen it a billion times before, and it's it's just kind of boring on that front, but mechanically it all works really well, and it's if you just like again, if you just want to shoot ship with your friends while catching up, it's it's a decent one of those. M I gotta play more of that. I've played a little bit. I love the first game because I was just I liked a co op third person shooter

souls like, and it was barrel. It was like a souls like in Passing, but this one it feels like they definitely were trying to create more of an identity with like certain bosses and some dialogue that's happening. But I also the trench coat and post apocalyptic melee weapons and AK forty seven vibe. Just I don't know a little like it's all just it's just not doing it for me. No, I want to be making vehicles that are glued together

with green goop. Yeah, that's what I want. Logs to a rock and a bunch of little primary colored little dude just following me around, Yeah, getting dogs and pumpkins. Yeah. I want to spend ten minutes on it and then watch it fall apart in front of pixelated scuba diver going down for debris to come back up and make it as sushi restaurant. Yeah. I don't need this shit remnedant. Two. I don't know what our game of the year looks like at this point, you know, and like we

don't need to like list it out or anything. But just like from our conversations this year, I mean there's obviously there's going to be a giant conversation about at Zelda and well maybe not a giant conversation, but like it is going to loom over, like you know you will loom over that top ten la. Remember when we picked Haities for number one without without discussing time? Yeah, yeah, I don't even think we said it once. I mean until the end. Will we announced it? Oh yeah, yes, good

bye Haities two this year? No? No, I don't think so. Okay, okay, I don't said twenty twenty four. What are the big ones we have it? So? We got Balder's Gate, we got Starfield, we murmured Course six, Spider Man two, Oh yeah, Assassin's Creed, Mirage, Alan Wake two, which I'm excited for, Super Mario Bros. Wonder Oh right, yes, what are the November games? I'm forgetting? So we got some stuff. We got some stuff for sure. There's some stuff like if I find it a shotgun blast just the ones that I

think will be contenders for our top time. We got Zelda Resume before remake. I know I'm gonna push hard for Pickman. Dave the Diver is gonna do well. Um, seem like I'm gonna One of my favorite games has been uh Octopath Traveler too Wow. Okay, yeah, what else has been? Oh Age of Age of Wonders for just like weird things I've been playing? Uh what else was this? Hear? I gotta play. I don't think Star Wars Jedi Survivor landed hard with any of us, but we'll see.

I gotta play more of that. Um. But yeah, I'm I'm really looking forward to, like, honestly, Alan Wake two more than anything, probably if they're if what they're doing with that comes to fruition, this two character parallel storyline in a Resume four style game, because that first game got boring action wise, but uh yeah they're no one said Dredge, But I think that's going to Dredge, like David Diver game feels like Dredge.

You didn't Dredge will come up a nice little game that's not a compliment. It was like demeaning, like if you that's like a kid being like, uh hey I was able to like go to school and you're like you're a nice little kid, and he's like, fuck you, I worked really hard to get here. You had a nice little man. Yeah. Yeah, all good for them, their little studio and their little game. They're little, their little fish game. Oh you know, amazed for that little team.

Oh fuck you a little bit. No, I was gonna say, Dave the Diver reminds me of Dredge, kind of on steroids, like a very compelling, like sleek gameplay loop that I keep coming back to. Is the best thing people have ever created. No, but they made what they were doing really well. Good for them. Yeah, okay, so patronizing I hate. We'll bring up We'll bring up Dredge. You can overrule him.

We have the technology. Yeah, I look, I don't have a bad word to say about Tredge. Death Stranding is down for grabs this year too, forgetting not something. Yeah, I will not be gas lit in July. We must be. You wait until December. It didn't years ago. I don't let me go. Let me go to the great Polygon. Where's Shake? I must call him Drake? Where's Judge Shake? Let me let me look up, let me look through forgetting some games to get you

that sound? No, Dan, actually you have played you played Exoprimal, which I'm curious with you. Oh yeah, I just did. You just remembered I played it once on up Giant Blom and like it's very fun and like we had a great time playing it, and hearing about what it does if you keep playing is so interesting. Like it's like the game changes like narratively, adding modes like shared boss fight type stuff. It's really cool.

It's just I don't think I'm gonna ever see that stuff because like, I don't play a lot of multiplayer games, and I'm certainly not gonna like I'm not gonna play with Randos and I'm not gonna get four friends together to fucking play this, Like, I just that's not what I do. So I respect the game. It was a great upf but I I just don't see myself playing enough to really appreciate it. Yeah, I'm because I was just looking through. I don't think. I mean maybe with Jake, Final Fantasy

sixteen hit hard, but not for me. Amnesia the Bunker I really fucking liked Mary. Have you played that yet? Um, I've only played like an hour, so I don't think. Man, I like it. I liked it because then there's Ania super Mega Baseball four. I really fucking like it's good. Started over. Um unfortunately play baseball too because of my dad. But yeah, I still I have not been able to yet Street Fighter six. Oh yeah, oh yeah, System Shock remake, which I have

not played yet. I gotta play more of that. What else Humanity? Oh wait? Fuck? There were like a lot of games of right at the beginning of the year. Wild Hearts was fine. Um, that was like a monster hunter thing, right, Red Fall fucking Red, Well, that's that's gonna be the hadies of this year. We don't even have talking about it. Kayla loves that Woe Long Fallen Dynasty. She's been playing that kind I like that game a bit. Yeah, it's quite a bit too.

Dead Space remake right, A fire EMBM came out this year. I love that fire emblem. We owe some RESI Mike, I know, yeah, we do. We uh we will get back to that. Oh yeah, company Harrows three. But it terms like big games. I think we got them all. See. Is there enough fishing category in Game of the Year this year? Between Dredge and Dave the Diver, Is there enough fishing going on? Trying? Remember Chia had fishing. We could even do a

fishing category. Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, you're just trying to like shove them all together. I know what's going on. No, No, like a game with best fishing, like resume before you can technically kind of fish you can't. Yeah, you can, you shoot them. It's not a rod. But you're fishing. I mean, who's to say what fishing is and isn't. If you shoot a fish, is it not fishing? Yeah, it's a good point. I think that's fishing. If you, yeah, throw a spirit of fish and eat it off, that that's fishing.

Oh fucking PSVR two baby, Well yeah, that Horizon whatever climbing and that's gonna be our game of the year probably. I really like Company Heroes three, like a Dragon Eshan, Hogwarts Legacy, Octopath Traveler two. I really like Octopath Traveler too. Yeah. Yeah, oh, Metrid Prime. That was more of a I wouldn't. I don't know if I consider that, Like we could do a remaster category. I think we've done that before. Wait are we did we do a mid year bonus episode last year?

Last year? I don't think we did either. I think we did that just that first year before we were actual, before we were doing a podcast. Now we do podcast, which is our mid year, our quarter year, our first week of the year rather week year. Yeah, and then some yeah, we gotta we should figure out like some sort of midway through the year, but it doesn't have to be about games, but like bonus

episode of some sort. So working on these games, oh, remind me, reminder we should do a biggest fart of the year of just a game that was just a fart, where it's like Bayonet Origins. I feel like they were making a Dead Island too, just like just a fart. I okay, Dead Island too. I am such an easy mark for everyone you're wrestling, such an easy target for my bar is very low for mindless zombie crafting games and god whold Like I liked Dead Rising four, I enjoyed what

it was. Dead Island two, Oh my god, it was so boring. It didn't even feel good. If you you want to make those games, you okay, we're just doing well. This is stuff that'll come up in December or whatever. Saved saved saved. Yeah, I mean we've been traveling. It's a slow game period. I think it's about to heat up a bit more with Bald's Gate three, got Armored Cores six. That'll be

my personal first Armored Core. I'm definitely gonna play it, though, like everybody else who now loves from software since the last time they released one of those. Looking forward to it though, Yeah, I've never played an Armored Corps uh, you know before, but it looks I know they were saying, it's not really gonna be like an elden Ring from software something from software style thing, but like it looks enough of that for me to get interested.

Yeah, but yeah, I've been traveling game light games like games. I know I've said it before, but it's just this experience was Zelda, and it was the opposite of my breadth of wild experience. It was that was crammed two weeks, fifteen sixteen hour days, playing all day trying to get to a bargo versus like I'm moving, I'm gonna play I'm probably gonna have, you know, a week set of time where I'm not able to

play it at all, uh, and stretching it out over months. I can't remember the last time I played a game over the course of months, And holy shit, if that didn't feel a lot, lot, a lot better and like a more natural way to play a game. I think it really helped my enjoyment that game. Like obviously it didn't hurt my enjoyment of Breath of Wild it was, you know, like my favorite of all time

for for a long time. Um, but I prefer this for sure, And of course it makes me think about like Red Dead Redemption two, if I could have played that differently we saw with the Stranding. I liked it a lot more once I was able to play it at like a normal human pace. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. I'm curious what the end of the year will we'll bring about. But yeah, who's to say we won't. There's always gonna be other Dredges and Dave the Divers between all

these games that we are like anticipating. Wait, that New Holland has to be this year, right they have? They hope Direct. Yeah, there's been no discussion about it. Also, shut up, I'd always be serious. I was just being serious. I was just wondering. I don't love it, and I don't like you, and I just you know, it seems like they've been announced it a long time ago, and they it sounds like they're very good video game developers, so it's just surprising that they it's

going to be one of the greatest releases of all time. That's why when every direct happens Chat is basically like Hollow Night when Silk Song, Actually when do you think they care about it more than like anything? Do people expect them to surprise drop it during a direct or would it be a release date thing. It would not surprise me with the hype of this game that they could do that they have the power to just be like and it's out.

That would upset me. But they absolutely have these because you would have to you you would probably be working. I mean I'd have to like canceled my work day age it just happened. Do you feel that much hype because I feel like I just hear it from you. No, Shreyer doesn't shut up about it. Like into it too. I like the first Hollow right, but it's fucking into it. It's a huge anticipated game. It is No. I talked to a lot of people there every day about video games,

and I just honest, this is not trolling. And I know your enthusiasm is genuine, genuine, and he really loved that game. I have not heard anyone else. They first announced it. Keep in mind they first announced it as a DLC and then they're like, we have too much shit, this is a sequel. Then people started getting really fucking hyped, and then for like a year they were like, wait a minute, when are they

gonna say release they when are they gonna say release it. It's been long enough where it's just a fact of everyday life that people are waiting for it, that it's not something people vocalize much recently. I see people X, but I don't see real people talking about it. There are a lot there are it's I will, however, say, I don't think it's like one of the most like one of the most anticipating games ever, but it's it's

highly anticipated. It's highly anticipated by no fins. I know there's lots of bots. They don't play your garbage. Oh oh oh Mary, Mary just spend an all day on argument I've ever been in. What is? I love how it shifted from attacking her as a Hollow Knight fan to attacking her

as an ex user. Well, she's just one of these big elon musk devots, and I know that they're probably bot Army is probably very excited about Hollow Night, and I marry driving around your tests like getting excited about Hollow Knight. But you know, I love misinformation X and Silk Song tattooed forehand. No, put it out into the back with Nixon put it in the band. I would rather be known as a Nixon like apologist and appreciator than an Elon like her wow wow yeah, because he's such a little freak.

Yeah. And the next episode was Forever Ago. And I think people are our age, you know that, like water Gate, but never know what the fun Watergate was. Like nobody today knows what Watergate was. People know Elon catch phrases. He had a dog, Yeah, what was the sound? That's what he did. Yeah, yeah, he got on a plane, you got on a helicopter and president yeah yeah. But like you know, people are a aren't familiar with that much. A butthead and Richard Nixon

was He's got an aura A butthead around him historically. But we don't know why. There's something with a hotel and a microphone. But Elon is loudly a butt head for everyone that's on the internet in twenty twenty three, we all know how much of a butthead Elon is Nixon. I think we just think, oh, he's a butthead, but we don't know the details. Who could know? Yeah, I don't think oh, yeah, to your

point, whichever point you're trying to make. I know we've talked about like today, if Watergate happened, people would be like, all right, whatever, yeah, just today, be like, hey there's fo we got some alien bodies and it was barely in the news. Okay, let's you want to do emails. She's all over the place. You want to do mushrooms? They said, we have aliens. Like a guy who worked with the

aliens, You're gonna like, what are you talking about with aliens? There was a guy that went to Congress today that he worked in like the alien division of the government, and it was like, no, no, we got we got a ship. We got a little white ship, and then

we had pilots that were non human in origin. He was on in the Capitol building today testifying about it. You're like saying like, hey, we should be like working with other governments because way we all know about the aliens, we should work together and try to figure out their technology and make sure they're not trying to independence toy us. And I'm not an alien. I'm not a weird alien conspiracy theorist guy. But this fella wore a suit to

Congress and said I worked with the Alien division. There's a whole bunch of ding dongs in Congress. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. This guy was like he was like an alien research guy though, so, I mean he was doing once you can afford a suit, Dan paid is at tension. You give me a suit, you give me a lab coat and stethoscope. And I'm like, well, you probably went to college and know a

lot more than me, and I trust you. Uh huh he I have seen an uptick in UFO like news things that appear put out the fucking like video of the thing flying around all crazy. What does a navy know about space? Water? Is there thing? I am confused. That's why the Navy is flying planes because we have a whole airplance. No, hold on, don't lumb dam that. I know why the Navy is planes. They have their own like they have their own air division as well. What do

you think you can have an air force? Yeah, but we have aircraft carriers, that's naval jets, well, the aircraft carrier shop and the airplane top gun. He's a naval gun, Maverick. I've seen top about okay, but he's not an air force pilot. He's naval. He's the air Force's fly. No he's not your Okay, he's Navy when he's on the boat. He's air Force when he's on the plane. No he's not. It's a naval pilot. He's a confusing. Why are they making a confusing

I don't know. We've got a pretty big military. It seems like they figured some things out for that. Seems pretty clear. X wings and shit. Yeah yeah, um planes, trains and taxi cabs. We got aliens. It has always been aliens. This isn't new. They've just been hiding it from us. Baby, make the pyramids. I do. I do believe, Mary, Mary, Mary. What if an alien comes down? Is Dick is huge and he's like, here is silk song and then leaves.

Where's the question? That's just with the monster Dong just gave us a silk song and then pieced out. I would be thrilled. What's up? Who's the guy that doesn't intend to direct? I'd play the game two weeks later? What has been dead for? Like the snappy guy? Snappy guy doesn't know? Yeah, imagine them being like that alien had a huge monster Dong and old trendon has to translate it just as Bowers like Huge Monster Dong just dropped off Silk Song. Here you go exclusive or is it gonna be

another stuff? Why do people expect it on a direct? Uh? I guess Nintendo Direct seems like a likely place, but it will be on Steam, so okay, I think it's just like wishful thinking that they would do it. Nintendo Directs gets so much excitement these days, and they always surprise release stuff. Yeah, but was wasn't the first Hollow Night on Did they poured it to switch? Or was it because I played it on Steam?

Yeah? But no? Okay, so the alien ye huge boner? Oh okay, well it's not at first, but they can like change it at will. That's really into Hollow Night. Yeah, this thing's anything but hollow And then uh, he presses his butthole to this touchscreen and it opens it and Silk Song is in it like an old school CD rom case. It's silk Song. Here you go, the end of Close Encounters. But imagine if an alien with a with a sticky butt hole and a huge dick comes

down with Silk Song. But it doesn't work because they're still like making games on floppy discs and he gives you the stack of floppy disc that is silk song. He's like, here, I gift this to you, or like, dude, we're on the PS five or like eighth generation and he's like, sorry, I've been traveling from XZ one one, three, four, And then he just goes enjoy and like floats away. Yeah. And then I was about to ask if one person the gaming industry was a secret alien,

who would it be? But then I really it's just Keiley, right y is most likely. It's just like I think he might be like one who is the secret alien? No? No, he is the outfront alien. Okay, yeah, who's Oh good Molly news. Not he's too he's too down to earth to be an alien. I think he's just British. He's just British. He yeah, he's just uh like mix mixed stuff up. Kajimajima absolutely predicting the future stuff. Yeah he could. He loves it.

And he also he also just posts stuff he likes, which is very alien esque, Like sometimes he just posts a movie poster he posted after he saw a Mission Impossible Dead reckoning. He posted his thoughts on it and a picture of himself sitting in the theater with a shirt that just send COVID on it, just like a picture just watching Impossible in a COVID shirt. Have you seen that movie yet? Yeah? I have you. No, it's

good. It's good. It's good. It's not my favorite one. It's very good, though, Amanda and I, I don't don't think she's seen any mission Impossible, So I got to catch her up. Do it do it in order because the first one is so solid and it really actually stands the test of time. I think it's a great opener to explain how ridiculous this series is. Um. I saw the new one. I think it's okay. Um. What I found interesting is is did you see the behind

the scenes of the jump? I remember, like during COVID and all that, like two years ago. Yeah, so the behind the scenes of the

jump is so cool. But when you see the jump in the film, because you've seen the behind the scenes, you might be like, oh my god, they CGI that like hill Yeah, and it's it kind of sucks you out once you realize, like how CGI did is But you've seen it, like that's the biggest stunt in the movie, and it's like there are other fun sequences and stuff, but that is the biggest like stunt stunt and it's like there's a two years ago you know, there's a fight sequence in

a hallway like this wide and I think that's the other cool part. Are they doing what's an old boy again? It's not like a big group fight like an old Boy. It's it's like one on one type thing. But it's it's it's really really good. It's it's it's very meddle your solid for AI uh storyline, it's it is continuing to just be Yeah, they're like the movie series. Yeah, they're preventing like people from getting hold of the two keys that could unlock this AI entity. Right, it's like a Zelda

meets medal gear solid. Yeah, it's just like twisty like you know medal key puzzle thing. Yeah, it's it's convicted mentioned Tom Cruise as Link not talking, just not talking the entire time, looking in the middle. Would never who would pay? Would it be like uh Timothy Shallow ma would he be Link? He's too much like Link in Really it's too he's getting old Bob Dylan. Oh right, Yeah, there's like Oscar chatter for Glenn Howarton

for his uh black Berry CEO portrayal Dennis from It's Always Sunny. Oh, there's like Oscar chatter about him being the CEO in the BlackBerry movie. Oh wow, Yeah, I don't know. It might not be. It might have been, like I don't know how far that will go. It's not during uh not during Barbie Oppenheimer times, Oppenheimer was Goodheimer is good. You guys, I Barbenheimer. I'm seeing Barbie on Sunday. I saw I saw Oppenheimer, and then I U took a break and then I saw Barbie in

the same day. We consider very long Oppenheimer's very long face. It out done either we have not. Oppenheimer is probably one of the most important films of our generation. But I do have to prepare people that it is three hours of talkie and that is hard. But it is so good. And at no point during this three hour film was I like, how much is left? Like I was in. I went in just expecting it to be about like the making of the bomb basically, and you know, him wrestling

with that, which very much is about that. I did not know anything about the actual Oppenheimer. I didn't know how much stuff about the like Communist Party and all that stuff, and it was like, yeah, it was really interesting and like Robert Downey Junior was awesome in that role, Matt Damon was awesome, the whole the cast was just fucking fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, it's I feel like Nolan. I thought Dunkirk was fine and Tenant sucked, and so this is like I'm glad to have another. Is that you

like it? I think dun Kirk is his best movie. Wow? Yeah, I think it was good. I just didn't find it memorable. I just think he's try. I love it, but I mean, I don't know if I it's just it's anxiety inducing his hell, but it's like do you think that for Like Oppenheimer is so exhausting, Like every scene the music is just like a bomb is coming up, bomb is coming And then they talked for like three hours and then the credit throw all it's just stressful fall.

I don't know if you can spoil Oppenheimer er, I shouldn't talk to Simmons. There were certain scenes where I was like, oh man, this is very effective, Like goddamn it was. It's a movie that I liked a lot as I watched it and it's been about a week since I saw it, and I've just thought about it more and more and it's like, God, damn it. They really nailed it with that and the audio design,

and I don't think this is a spoiler. The music of Oppenheimer is also extraordinarily brilliant because they utilize things that I think help you think of atoms that sounds kind of weird, but like you know, like uh, those clickie balls, like those metal balls, and it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those yeah, the balls. In effect, I think they use those in the music because there's like times in the music where you can hear this like ball clicking noise, and then they also use like a

like a sand noise. All of that. If you close your eyes and like you think about it, it's just like, oh, it's like it's like what they're trying to imagine Adams and splitting and fusion, Like what does fusion sound like? Is something they actually thought about and then tried to replicate in their music, and it's and it's spot on. It's really fun. If there were like a Lifetime Achievement award at the Oscars for just like acting

without saying or doing anything but being very effective. I think Cillian Murphy in this a lot of just like kill imax close Killian Murphy imax close ups of his face and his eyes just be like, oh god, what have I done? Hype expressions like but not really like he's not emoting or anything, but you can he's selling it so fucking hard, like he was so so good. Humans are the real scary machine. I mean that is like at the end of the day he had become death. I heard that he like

massacred his body for that role. The other actors were saying, um that they would like go out for like beers and stuff, and yeah, Killian Murphy would be like, sorry, I have to memorize like three pages in German and eat one almond, yes, emaciated. And I know that's super unhealthy and people probably shouldn't do it. But whenever I see like this, like the Christian Bale and the Machinists and then like the fucking Batman began to write after, it's like, yeah, that's cool. I think that's like

all right. My toxic trait is I root for actors to destroy their bodies for roles because I think it's interesting. I like, like crazy commitment to stuff, you know, like the Nero method and stuff or whatever. It's like, ah, yeah, all right. I like it when people care that much about shit. You can't just memorize your lines destroy your body for

this. But I also see your hunger in the screen. I appreciate the opposite too, though, where it's like fucking uh Kendall Roy was being a budded a method actor in Succession, But then do you hear uh Brian Cox. I'm like, no, I don't have to do that. I'm an actor, Like we've talked about that before. It's like, yeah, I also really appreciate that, Like, no, I'll just act like could kill myself. They're like, how do you put on such a convincing performance and

then go home and have a normal life. He's like, I'm an actor. I'm pretending and then I go home and I live my life. Yes, that's the job. What's the behind the scenes of Succession is really fun because they like would have these like huge fights in the behind the scenes. They're just like click of my hands and talk about how much they love each

other. I think I'd like die. I'm the eldest boy. I still stand by out of every celebrity I've ever heard of, the one I think I would be instant friends with and I need to meet in person is Karen Colkin. He always in great, but then that that hot ones where he's just talking about CRTs and playing punch Out to reduce input lag and then talking

about wrestling stuff. It's like Karen me and that dude. But yeah, interest wise, I'm interpreting this solely through his body language and disposition in interviews. He just seemed like he'd be a dick though stuff. Wow, come on, now, I think you'd meet your maker like you'd be like giving him a little bit of shit and he'd throw it right back at you, and you'd be like, oh, that was mean. I like you. I don't give everyone shit. Fucking I can't even beat in thirty seconds.

Yeah, he would be better at punch Out than you, and you'd actually end up hating him and he's your nemesis. No, I'll do a feature Giant Bomb Meavers Karen Colkin and punch Out. Well, but he like, he doesn't spect to you. That's fine, that's fine. We could be enemies too, that's fine. Yeah, I just I gotta meet that guy. Fucking chud bugs over here trying it can't beat Tyson in thirty seconds. No chud fuggers right, chud suggers juriously close to like so many. Yeah,

let's put chud fuggers to rest. It's it's a risky name. Don't risky, nothing to lose. Um, do you want an emails? Sure? Really quick though, guys, I'm getting married in October. Congratulations. Yeah, you're you're both in the wedding. Dan, you're officiating it. Mary, you're in the wedding. Shit, Okay, I gotta figure that out. Amanda, you can still back out and Dan. I hope it's easy to set that up in New York State. Yeah, you went through

the gauntlet, but Dan, let me do the s Dan. You Uh, I'm gonna get you a tie and I'm gonna get your pocket square. And people are always asking me based in photos or like, where'd you get that tie? That's a sick tie, that's a good pocket square? Where you're getting these tie clips? And I tell them every time it's ota ot aa. They're Australian. Mary. You know you know you know someone down Enda? Oh, I know several people down Unda. Tell me about the

pocket squares. I wear Ota ties all the time. They have a great selection of floral ties. You can go for more like standard stripes. You can also do some like super cool fun stuff like anchors or kangaroos or dinosaurs on the on the ties themselves or the pocket squares. You obviously, of course don't want to match your pocket square and your tie. That'd be of to see um. But they're always a great way to make a good looking suit even better if you're not really sure where to get ties there. I

order them online all the time. I'm outfitting my groomsmen with Ota ties and pocket squares, and I myself, I'm also going to be wearing a for once. I'm gonna be wearing gold accessories for the wedding as I opposed to my normal silver. So I got a tie clip. I got a collar bar, looking real fancy with a gold collar bar. You guysn't know what that is? You ever seen one in person outside of Madmen? Is it

a collar? It goes under the tie and it like elevates the tie a bit, puffs it out, but it goes through your collar and then I'm also can you see it? Yeah, you've probably seen it for Roger. Yeah, but it goes out each side of the collar it. Trust me, it looks good. I'll look great because I'll be wearing outa So are they helping you out? Uh? We're gonna be wearing them for the wedding. Yeah maybe nine. Yeah, Dan, you'll you'll be wearing them.

Mary. I won't have anything for you, but you'll get me. I'll try to get you something gold or silver, but you'll be They've got some really cool lapel pens. They've got like panthers and anchors and stuff. All right, I'll look for a pin, not a pen. Yeah. So if you need a new tie, if you're in like wedding season like I am, or that year where everybody is fucking getting married, then you want

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email. It's labeled trash, but I do actually want to read a correction tonight because I found it useful. But Vinny Jake and I were talking about the final Fantasy numbering between Japan and the US, and I actually fucked it up, and I want to make sure I get it correctly. Wait, what did you say? And let me see if because I don't even really

know final fantas I want to see if I had this right. Okay, so if I recall correctly, my belief has been that there were two final fantasies in Japan, one and two before it came to America, at which point Japan's Final Fantasy. No, So I'm so sorry. What did I say? One? Two? Three? Okay? Yes, yes, I thought there were two final fantasies in Japan before once and then once Japan got to Final Fantasy three, that's when it came west and that was America's or

the North America's Final Fantasy one. So by the time we got and then it kind of realigned. Obviously, saying it out loud it doesn't make any sense, but I do want to Matt b Rode in Oh, Wait, Dan, Yeah, Dan, what do you think it is? Oh my, my understanding. It was always the Japanese six was our three, four and five never came out here until the PlayStation one, and it was like that Final Fantasy anthology or chronicles or something like that, and four was like

beloved for eventually got the DS thing. But one and two were they the same in both here in Japan one and two you got kissed out on three, four five. You were way closer to me than than I was. So hey, this is Matt from mass and only here to correct Mike Abo. The final Fantasy numbers, so quick rundown USA correct USA, Final Fantasy one in Japan, Final Fantasy one were the same. We never got two

or three until years later. Final Fantasy two for the Sness in Japan, No sorry, Final Fantasy two is for Sness is Japan's Final Fantasy four, and then we never got five until years later again, and last is Final Fantasy three, which was Japan's six. So so R two for Super Nintendo was four there, so one R three was six And it wasn't until later that we started calling Final Fantasy six through six what it is? Final Fantasy

six got it? Yeah, So my first so like it skipped a few games, and then Matty said, my first Final Fantasy was the remake of the Japan Final Fantasy three for DS. Pretty sure it's the only one I played. Two. Might get sixteen when it comes to PC. Anyway, love you lots and have the second best shirt from you guys. Still need to order that banana yellow at some point. Thank you, Matt b the rare correction I wanted to read, but I do have one question this week

because I think it might take up some time. Knowing us Vinny, Jake and I had a blast last episode. However, this question I had on our run of show, and then I took it off because it's like, no, that's a Dan and Mary and Mike question. I'm looking at this on the page right now, and this is the easiest answer I've ever Yeah, but I'm gonna challenge because I've got some ideas. Mary, can you

read this? And also it's from He's from Syracuse, so I you know, represented the hometown with this one question of communications Syracuse University and that's a new house at Syracuse University in Syracuse. All of your financial needs are met for the rest of your life under one condition. The condition is that you have to eat a bathtub full of ice food while sitting in it. The food is your choice. It will be filled to the height of your belly

button once you're sitting in the tub. There is no time limit, but you're not allowed to leave the tub until all the food has been consumed. You will have an unlimited supply of water at your disposal, and any utensils or dishes are permitted. What is your food of choice and how long do you think it would take you to finish? This is every day? No, it's okay. That's why this is an insane premise because like I would

do this with something I hate it. You could put me in a bathtub full of sour cream and you're covered financially the rest of your life, and I'd be like, signed me the fuck up the fact that it's any food and we get to choose it, like I would do this like for fun. This is or you know, one hundred bucks for whatever is a challenge, whatever financial needs for the rest of your life. This is the easiest thing the world. And also for me, it's it's just a creamy macaroni

and cheese. It's easy as hell. Okay, but I would enjoy here's every second, especially even the handful that's been touching your butthole. But until the time you get down to my financial needs for the rest of my life. And butt whole adjacent, Macaroni and cheese is still macaroni and cheese. It's like he's spreading his cheeks in the cheese. Yeah, cheeks, probably not. I'm not like curbying it up inside me. There's our next shirt

is butthole adjacent. Macaroni and cheese is still macaroni and cheese. It's macaroni and cheese and cheese. So but you said you would do it for a hundred dollars, Oh well, okay, i'd have to rethink that you're coming to my house in December. I give you a hundred I will fill a bathtub with mac and cheese. I'm just saying it would be an overall enjoyable Okay. Let me let me pose this to you. I fully expect you

and enjoy much of it. Dan, I want to stress and want you to really think about how much mac and cheese a bathtub up to your belly button is. You're telling me you would not get sick of that at any point. I mean I always get like the giant family sized things of sofers and just wolf it down. I'm like, I can do two more of those, right, youth. You would need like one hundred and twenty of those to fill a bathtub. I know those are big, but I'll yeah,

but well you don't have to do it all at once. You have tensils. Oh okay, so keep this in mind. You are not gonna do it before you need to go to the bathroom. You're not going to finish all that mac and cheese, so you're gonna have to pee in the tub. Oh. Then we're getting weirder. And yes, I know that's why the questions. Well, you can probably hold it like that's a that's a lot of mac and cheese to finish before you piss. You're also getting

liquids from thee I was gonna needs. I was gonna say like something malleable and easy like Captain Crunch, and I would I know it would go days, but I would have like a little baggy for pee. I don't think you can have no, no, you can have wait. Let me read this thought about this, and I think it would be better if it was

dry and I drank water. I know it wouldn't be as enjoyable, but hear me out, it gets soggy if you add milk in yes, of course of CoA, and imagine how gross it would get after like six hours. And I am planning for the long Paul, finishing a bathtub of anything in six hours and then when you start paying the cereal is gonna get really gross. I bet you're not. I disagreeathtub of anything. I bet you I can eat a bathtub of peace. I will bet you all the money

I have that you could not finish that in six hours. A lot. I mean, the best part about beings. Having my financial needs for the rest of my life is ruining you financially. I will put my organs through whatever they need to. You guys are being You're not financial needs for the rest A bathtub pece total freedom the rest of my life. If I just like oh, I had to poop and I couldn't find I one thousand percent would do it. However, it would take way longer than six hours.

So here's what I would do. I would do like a bathtub full of like diced cut up watermelon. There's already some weird water. It's airy, but it still would fill the bathtub. That's the key. That's not really much it's but it's still filling up space, not dense, but still volume. And it wouldn't water, oh peeing in there. Sure. So if you're just thinking about something that I'm going into the bathroom in what I'm eating, but I would you're trying as much, you're trying to cheat it a

little bit. I was thinking terms of enjoyment, because I would enjoy the macaroni cheese. We're just on ourselves. I mean, could you just do rice cakes, you know, like the like rice, like just the right rice, like the pucks of Yes, how long do you think that would take you? Twenty five minutes? A bathtub full of rice cakes. There's

like nothing's a ten calories. No, it's rice. It expands in your stomach even I know it's not the little like tiny pieces of rice, because you know how like you're eating rice when you're having Chinese footage puffy, I feel like it's already puffed out so much. Yes, I one thousand. I agree. It's not expanding as much as actual regular rice would when you get in your stomach. But you think you could eat a bathtub full of rice cakes in twenty five minutes. Yeah, and the mac and cheese.

If you double that for a mac and cheese. Yeah. I hear the emails from this. Wait no, actually wait did they say liquid? Wait? Food? Did you do tomato? Soup? Yeah? Soup count Oh this is the sign a bunch of cheese. It's really not a meal, Jerry. If I can put a bunch of shread and cheese and oyster crackers in there, I would just go tomatoes. Just do the soup. You're enjoy going to enjoy this? No matter what would I enjoy it. You

will not enjoy eating a bathtub full of food. Okay, speak for yourself. Imagine the fullest you've ever I want you to recount the fullest you've ever felt in your life. Like two Saturdays ago, what were you eating? We all went at a family thing at a Jose full of rice cakes that touched his butthole restaurant in Kansas, and I ate a whole bunch of Jose peppers. And then we went to the bar and me and my dad and my ex step dad and all of us were just sitting there so fucking full.

At the red balloon and uh, I could barely take down my giant drinks. I promise you eating a bathtub full of anything, your stomach literally could not hold bone broth. I can suck a bathtub full of bone broth. I'd be fine. No, still, that's did you remember the people remember? No, remember the Nintendo we contest in Miami where people, yes, hold your ways all water and salt, it's red. Oh my god, you guys can't wait until for once the emails will not be gunning for

me. I why, like the logical one all of a sudden in this group. It's just funny that you're trying to add crackers though, because like all, soup's really not a meal. Jerry did he crumple crackers? The sign Feld bit? Okay, okay, soup is a good a good angle. I think I don't know though, that's like that's water, you're you're

peeing no matter what, there's what I'll drink my own peace. Yes it's financial, but no, it's like tomato soups tomatoes right, yes, but there's water like bra If I the ingredients on canned soup water would be listened, I think they just it's implied that it's in there. Imply. I think you have to say it is water and there's water in tomatoes. Yeah, okay, Uh, people say that you make it with one can of water per one can of soup. I don't think there's actually water in soup.

You just said they make it with one candle straight. That would be gross. Oh my god, you're just eating tomato paste. That's so disgusting. That's okay. So that's when you're like scooping it with your hand and you're naked in the tub and you're just scooping paste and few things. I

actually rice cakes is I would go more I need. I think watermelon makes sense to me because it's sort of solid, sort of liquid something too liquidy to eat all of it, you're gonna be like slipping and slid on your back and like trying to get every last drag that's been like all over you. I know what would happen, what would be best for me? Either skittles or red vines, because whenever they're around, gettles eating them. I've

probably eaten half of a bathtub and skittles in one sitting. No, that's you have not, probably, I promise you you have not eaten a half. I don't know. You don't conversations because you are parties. If I went to a party and there was a bathtub bule of Skittles, there's no am leaving that party before I have eaten half of that bathtum there. You will not eat half a half bathtub of Skittles. I'm gonna do this.

I'm gonna I'm gonna saw you, like do the jigsaw thing and make you eat a half bathtub of Skittles, just so you know how painful that would be and how long it would take you. I'm not saying I'd be physically comfortable. I would take you would be happy. I would be happy. Beare minimum to eat half a bathtub of skittles twelve hours? Beare minimum? And also the shit that would do to your one hundred bucks. You might be set for the rest of your life. I'll fill the tub with skittles.

I'll fill it. Yeah, this look, I don't need a that bad but lifetime all your financial needs of course, yes, yes, but okay, so wait really quick. Skittles I think is on the right path, though, because they themselves are protected by shells to like they're not gonna though that food that dial saltines No, no, no, saltines are famously no cracker. I don't think crackers And like chips of the Way to Go, those are a bathtub of extra toy cheeses. That's like twenty dance.

You're just hungry right now, Like I need you to go eat a meal and then come back and tell me he's making me hungry. Kayla had a bunch of Japanese saltees. There's there's an actual cell challenge. Oh, jello would be good? That would that would be better? Suck it up? That is that you well, yeah, once you get inside, you would digests a bit more, I think. And it's so compactable, it's still it's still so much yellow in fifteen minutes. No, you could not.

Dan got sit in your bath Kayla's bathtub after this if she has one, and just like really contemplate how much jello that is. It's a lot of never eaten a meal. That is that much food in one sitting. But I've never had a lifetime of financial freedom on the top. Oh, I agree, Like if you could do the skittles and you have a lifetime of financial freedom, sure do it, but it would take you at least twelve

hours, and I think that's being generous. And also your stomach would have you would need to spend a lot of that money right away on like getting your stomach pumped. He's got financial freedom, he can afford it. It is where you can buy a new stomach, I guess, but I think so that the top of the line for me, it would be Jesus jello and cheese soup. Cheesus is so much flour and like random artificial shit that would just be wreck you within. I love that idea was Velvita, that

dude loves to wreck his insides with cheese straight not cheese. Imagine just you would be diarrhea ing into the via. That's the Gebers makes about taco bell and all that stuff. I've never wanted, like if your body just you've never wants diarrhea, diarrhea, But I have diarrhea when I have like a normal like thing, no matter what you're eating in this quantity to get out of that bathtub, you will have dire I'll have like big poops that hurt

when they come out, But I'm not gonna have like diarrha. You have to empty, though, keep in mind, oh wait, that's a question. Actually it's sorry to get gross, and we went pretty long without talking about poop in this episode. I'm proud of us. How do you need to empty just the food that you started out with or do you need to empty everything on the bathtub? Well, if it's no, what no,

what? No, No, I'm not gonna my poop. But what I'm saying is is like if you fill it with saltine crackers and you pee, the saltines are gonna get peaty, and then you have to eat those saltine I mean, okay, if we're talking a lifetime of financial freedom, I would like eat a turd, But I'm not gonna eat like a full evacuation. If we're dying a lifetime, I never have to. You're saying you wouldn't need one turd if you never had to worry about money. Again,

let's not care ourselves here. We wouldn't be proud of it, we wouldn't like it. But you do it. Yeah, I think you would hurt yourself quite a bit by eating a piece of poop. But again, if you're kings tacks here, But if you eat, but you just eat one. This isn't too much. We've gone past no question, no, no, no, I'm gonna ask the question directly, Mike. I go to your house. We think we're gonna hang out and go to the bar, and said, Mike, change a plan. I have this guy here the

paperwork for you to send mine or someone else's. Uh, you get to choose the turdum. But it is the turd will be the same size no matter who it comes from, or it could be a dog. I don't know what's what's this size? We're talking about normal turd size? What's a normal turd size? Like six inches? About like a quarter in a quarter in circumference? Okay, quarter six inches is a normal turd size. I mean it's a good turd size. Okay, don't say okay six inch long

quarter circumference. No, you'll get to pick where the like in little little fucking pelis six inch turns? Is that normal? I'm trying to think. I guess I'm like three foot turds. Okay, now we're just bragging. I have a three foot petis you don't see me bragging about it? Three feet? Love? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I want to really answer, really answer here, six inch turd? You never have? You have an infinite magic fucking game shirts bank account.

I think that's a I'm not saying I've never pooped a six inch tird. I think that's pretty big, though. I don't think that's normal. Would you eat it? No, Yeah, it's mine. You get to pick. It's every This is all on topic. You're you taught, you brought up to know, and I'm saying you get to pick who or what made the turd. It could be able to anybody. It's me, Why would I it's you. It's your turn, because you could be a little freak

for okay, demanded turn. Well that's different. I don't do that for money for love, for love yeah, define financial time, yeah, define. So walk me through this monetary situation afterward. Okay, no, no, no, You sign a piece of paper. It's with like a representative from the bank. You give your bank details. Yeah, yeah, just like exactly wired. It's like any time you need to pay for anything, you just have a magic card and you don't need to worry About's like it's

like it's infinite money the rest of my life. Yeah, yes, of course, Yeah, exactly one thousand percent everybody. Okay, you're dumb if you don't do that exactly. Mary, Yes, okay, okay, what you brought it up when you said financial freedom, I thought you meant like, live comfortably. I'm like, okay, okay, so that infinite money. Okay, lets let's change it then, that infinite money unanimous. Yes, Let's say you're in a downside guarantee every year one hundred and twenty k

eat a turd? Is this one? You can do what everyone, you can work, you can make money, do whatever you live. No, eating one turd for one twenty k a year for the rest of you actual one twenty k a year for the rest of my life now for one third. Correct, I'm not doing that. I'm fine, fine without that. Ask a question again. All Right, you eat one turd once and you get one hundred and twenty k a year for the rest of your life,

and you can also make whatever money doing your job and whatever. There's total freedom. Is this It's it's a it's a suitcaseful of cash. No, wow, that's millions of twenty Yeah, but like you could make that in other ways without eating a turd. I can make that be the easiest I can make money in other ways eating anna, but I'm gonna get drunk. I'm gonna hold my nose. I'm gonna not like no, no, no, no, no no. It's not just the taste. It's now we're

getting way too in it. But it's it's like that your bodies are not meant to eat that. Yeah, I'm gonna get sick, but I'm gonna be sick and then I'm gonna I think you could die from that. Okay, there's also a doctor on hand, So you got the referent in from the bank and a doctor. And the doctor's gonna be with you for a week in case something goes wrong. Yes, the doctor's there with with the proper tools. No, I still would not, not for the one hundred

twenty one No. Wow. Wonder is that you don't have to like re up? I understand the I like my job, are you. I don't need Yeah, I don't need to be convinced to like you do this. I can just make a wage. Yeah, but like this, But it's just the the it's the safety net. It's the safety net of like, Oh man, I'm glad I ate that ten years ago because now I don't have to worry now the mortgage is going to get paid. You know, it's not a safety net. Okay. But also it's not a life changing

amount of money. I mean actually it is. Yeah, it's not. It's not enough to like to like ease my my financial burden. It's good money. I don't mean to like scoff at that. I don't think it's worth legitimate amount of money. It's not worth eating a turd. Yeah, I would rather just have a job and work This industry we work and is ripe with layoffs and uncertainty all the time. And you could just secure your income of the rest of your life for one turd one time. No still

now, okay, well I'm still doing it. Yeah, good for you. Um. But still food wise, though, I feel like skittles were actually on something. The shells, like Eminem's themselves, are designed to protect the chocolate from melting. And World War two one M and m's were created to ship to soldiers, and the shells prevented the chocolate from melting while they're shipped. MS can melt right, the shells made them more durable. It was to get chocolate. I can't I don't know which World War was let

me. Look this up. There's only two of them. I think we've exhausted this question. No, we haven't. We got very off course. Eminem's in the America, the original milk chocolate M and M's, the brainchild of Forest Mars, which is just the coolest name I've ever heard in my life, were created in nineteen forty one exclusively for US service members deployed overseas

during Ward War two. Chocolate bars were already part of military rations, but the Eminem's candy shell made them stand out, so I guess there's more durable. I think the Eminem's thing is kind of a rude because they do the different colored shells, but they all taste the same, and Skittles they all taste different, So like, yeah, Eminem's just skills are I think Skittles is like the real deal. You know, Skittles over Eminem's every single day.

And I'm a chocolate person. I fucking love chocolate, but I'll take Skittles every day. Base Base Eminem's I don't love. I love some of the gimmick ones are great, the peanut, the pretzels, the caramel, like, all that stuff's awesome, but just base. Same with her Hershey kisses. I'll have the ones with the nuts are the almonds or the cookies and cream stuff. But a bass Hershey's kiss or bass Eminem's or bass Hershey's just the like grid that you break up. That doesn't du a lot for

me. No, I agree. I mean that is like the quintessential chocolate to me, which is funny because I really like dark chocolate. I like chocolate when it's like Snickers where it's like it's just a coating around all the real good stuff, you know, the nut, caramel and all that. Yeah, yeah, let me okay. So bathtub though, what's your definitive? A bathtub filled with Snickers and one her you don't know it's gonna surprise you, and they disguised it. They put the snickers outside so you don't

know. God, that's gross. That is saw. This is a Jigsaw plot. You are in a tub with snickers. One is a turn. You cannot leave until you've eaten all the snickers. You have four hours. We're giving when James Wan hits rock Bottom, we're giving him the idea for his next horror movie. Yeah, there is a key in one of the snickers to actually like unlock. The chains on the rest are normal Snickers, and there's also one fast Break and one Take five. There's a nutrageous in

there too. What okay, tell me what what you would choose the tub to be filled with, and how long it would take you? KFC mac and cheese, and it would take me forty five minutes. That's asinine, jello four hours. I think jello is a better answer, but I don't think I think it'll take you longer than four in four hours Arby's white cheddar mac and cheese forty five minutes. KFC is not as good anymore. I couldn't do anything with any lactose. I would immediately be shitting into everything around

me. Um. I think I realized the piss implications, but I'm accepting piss as a thing, and I would rather drink my piss than eat my poop. So I'm going to watermelon. I'm going to watermelon. I would watermelon. Watermelon takes up so much space for what actually goes into you. It's like fiber and water. Yeah, no, that that that would probably be poop. Watermelon is my favorite answer in terms of just ease of this challenge. I'd but I want to enjoy it. So that's why I'm sticking

with Mac running Cheese. And I love how optimistic you are. I love that you think you would enjoy this. I would I don't think there's any scenario in which you enjoy this. I definitely wouldn't. Thank you. Davis from Syracuse. Uh, that's the question. I figured it might take us on some turns. I think I was correct. I was. I'm glad I saved it. Jake and Vinnie, I'm very curious that their answers would be Jake text me once you you you uh you hear this? That was

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