Fire Escape Cast #53

Hey, welcome book. It's episode fifty fucking something Fires the Fires Gift Class. What is this? Hey? Hey, are you doing you beatiful little babies? Daddy's Home and he's got a podcast. It's Mike, that's Mary, that's Dan. Daddy's Home. You're the youngest person on this show. Daddy's Home. He's gonna tuck you in. Stop doing weird stuff. You prompted me. It's too much, too soon. I've taken seventeen improv classes. I will never not kill a joke. I would love to see you

in an improv troup. I've never taken an improv class or done improv because it's never funny. If a good Yeah, that are good. It can be pretty good. The problem is that there's some good. A lot of people are bad at it. Yeah, oh the large majority or terrible at it, like ninety five plus percent definitely terrible. One a very impressive. I've seen some good. She's good at it, and I think she is. She's gotten in some good stuff. Funny, it's funny. I saw

that. Yeah, I was there with you. I liked it because they like were weird as fuck right away, and I was like, Okay, I'm into it. I'm on their wavelength and yeah, yeah, I liked it. Yeah, but everyone while in LA. I've done an improv not a course, but like seeing improv, and they're not always bad. There's a couple in Portland that I think are tougher, a little rougher all the

edges. I think if you're going to go to improv, maybe you're going to find more talent in the LA area than you would in like rural spaces UCB in LA like the UCB Theater there is pretty good. That was a Harold ramis Is quote Portland's where comedy goes to die. No, I made that up, and a weird person. It's like, I don't know it's gonna say Robert Zemachus, Zamechis zamechis Oh, speaking of what your film snob up there, Mike Mhardy, I heard I heard from Bonk that last week

he got a little intellectual with this Kansas City boy. Yes, no I wasn't here, Yes you were. No, Wait you had a Kansas City and yeah you had Chris Planned. Here's a smart guy, right, different person. What do you mean when did we get I got intellectual? Or did I heard the chat was uncharacteristically intellectual for this Podcastmber, Yeah, you you're just bringing us down every week other week most of the times that without you, I was like, I'm unprepared for how highbrow this chat is getting,

and I don't I can't chime in. Okay, that was Do you remember that? That was shortly before Chris Plant did a vampire impersonation about a guy kicking him out of a car and a Brooklyn bridge during a hurricane. So I think it got pretty low Fitzgerald novel or something. I'm shot the thing everything and he knows the date and he knows who made it. And then they were like, they were like, who is don Quixoto's best don Quixote's best friend? We're back fires gave cast is back don Quioto. It's

those snobby Kansas City boys. You can't trust him don Quixote. Did you just change it to don QUIXOTEO? You're just shooting syllables into it. It's done, Keyote hands, thank you? Am I a stupid bupper supper. I can maintain my second place trophy as not the dumbest we test. We should all take an IQ test. I think there's a legit I think, for shoot, I think there's a chance I could win that thing. Yeah, but I Q tests are bullshit. That's like being good at trivia.

It doesn't mean anything, but it's a nice and if I had the highest one, I could gloat. We could also do a spelling bee, which we have done before and you've won. But if we did an egg cooking competition, you would lose. Let's measure our dicks where Mary would win win. Um, but how have you guys been busy? Dan? You especially, you've been gone. You weren't here less. Yeah, episode I was in califucking hell hole. Actually not California, most San Diegolifornia is a hell

hole. I was in Los Angeles, terrible city. Uh. But then I went to San Diego, which actually was very delightful. I really enjoyed San Diego a lot, Like everything about it seemed real cool. Wait, you've been to San Diego before that? Uh? Look for like one day for a Transformer story that I had to do with performers, so experience it or know what I was doing. So this time I got to spend a few days there doing the dream Hat convention and uh, yeah it was it

was a really good time. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, fucking Supernintendo Land, fucking San Diego Convention. It was a It was a whirlwind for sure. San Diego I always associate with. Uh. We stayed in Airbnb for Comic Con. It's like justin Haywall, Jake Decker, I think Eric Tay, Josh Shaw. We stayed in the Mission Hills outside and we had the best burrito of my life right down the hill. But then I remember the gas Lamp District. That is where we're staying in the gas Lamp District.

Yeah, that was really nice. You really walk around to a lot of cool restaurants and bars and arcades and stuff there. I would never get anything done if I lived in San Diego. It was not The weather was nice. Everything was just really like I really liked San Diego. Yeah, it was like cold in La. Like everything about La sucks. But then the thing that's supposed to be good is like, oh, palm Tree was in the weather and stuff, and it was like fucking cold. It wasn't

even that in the morning it would be cold. Like when we went to Superintendo Land or World. We were wearing jackets and jeans and stuff like that. And then we get there and it gets super hot in the middle of the day, so it's it's shitty and inconsistent, and god, I just fucking hate that city. It's just terrible. LA's grown on me over the years. Do you believe you hate it? I saw more. The more I see of it, the more I like it. San Francisco's worse,

for sure. Francisco has the perfect weather in my opinion. It's always about seventy it's never too hot, and it's never cold. It never snows, and it's never so hot that you can't stand it. It's really ideal for me. I think La is really nice, only at certain times of the year. It's so hot in the summer in La you'd be miserable. And gets colder than you would expect in the winter months for sure, Yeah, it never gets that cold. But like, it's interesting coming from four seasons

because I lived in Ohio most of my life. I when I moved to San Francisco, I thought, man, this is amazing. It's basically spring for ever. But the second I moved out of there and moved back to a place with four seasons, I forgot. I love four seasons. I like fall. I like Winner. I don't like winter being six months long, but I do like Winner, So I prefer the four seasons now that I have it again, if you had to have a year long, like

you know, weather situation, San Francisco's is the best. I think like that, you know, sixty seventy degree like that, it is really nice. But like you, I prefer the four seasons. Like I like a good snowy day, and you know, I'm not big on a super hot summer day. But I like to change. I like to change. San

Francisco did not have enough thunderstorms. I missed that too. They were worst never rained there or in LA. What's interesting right now is that it won't stop raining in LA and everyone's freaking out because they're not prepared for it. There's been a lot of like unprecedented weather as of late. It won't stop raining in Portland either, but that's normal. Everyone here is completely standered and expected it. We're all just be grudgingly like it's the rainy season. We're

not going to see the sun for three months. We've all accepted it. By know. It always killed me when I was living in Minnesota and I would see other game journalists, Like in San Francisco, there'd just be a rain, just not even a storm, just it would rain one day. And I won't name names, but I would see certain types that would always just be like, oh, really rough out there, like they need to need to run the cvs, but I just don't know if it's safe right

now. And it's like it's fucking sprinkling mouth mouth their names, so only US and video patrons know who you're talking about. No, I'll, uh, you're ill. I'll i'll it's almost fire escape you here. I'm going to call the fire escape you. I'm curious. This is This is the guy that would always just be like he was like god, you know, like reporting on a hurricane. If he stepped outside in the drizzle away,

Yeah, he shut the fuck up. He made a big deal, a lot of a lot of stuff, a lot like breathing, like dramatic. Yes, game journalists are Yeah. I think sometimes I connected to being a really good writer because a lot of really good writers are in tune with their feelings, which means they're whiny little bitches. Well, that tracks for this industry. I know I'm in touch with my feelings, but I'm not a whiny little bitch. M I think I'm touch with mine. I don't really,

Oh, I'm in touch with something on me. I stopped forcing those ones. You can't. You can't make them all work. That's improv baby. You know it just felt wrong not to swing to sing improv and Mary'd be easy because I would just say that line and it always gets her. Yeah, I'm always like the audience who also love signs by m Night Shamalan and hasn't soured on Mel Gibson. I've soured on Mel Gibson, but like maybe they haven't. I'm also a nostalgia junkie, so it doesn't matter how

many times I've heard the same Simpsons joke. If you reference an old Simpsons joke, I'll be like, that's hilarious because I love it. So I'm just easy to please. Simpsons is absolutely leave just like it's safe forever. I don't think you can overdo it. I don't think like I'm fine with

that. I'll never get tired of it. But like I feel like most sitcoms, if something gets too way too quoted, I feel like the Office and that that's what she said stuff, or the Moore ad Impressions or back in the day like Boston Powers. Yeah, baby around and it's funny again now though I went through the whole cycle, it's pretty good. Like I'm probably gonna save my wife at the way at some point, and it's gonna be funny. Are you gonna say it? Um, and you're like nuptials,

Yeah, and the marrying house. He's gotta let me slipping. I'm say wife that way? Will you lose it up on the stands, it's not the stand that's co at the stage, I guess. Yeah, we're not gonna be We're not. Can you please rise at the stand? Oh, I'm already up. I'm gonna do the whole fucking ceremony as bore At with the speedos, the whole character pouring champagne out of a person when it because the bottle stuck in the guy's ass um. But yeah, I hate

improv. Yeah, it's really not fun Yeah. Yeah. If you if you invite me to your improv show, which happens more often than i'd like, you make it good. Make it good. Yeah, don't don't suck up, and if you fuck up, make it funny. That's the whole thing for me. Would Chris Plant be good at improv um. Well, he's from the Missouri side of Kansas City, so I hear they're a bit over there. No, No, but Chris Plant says they're a bit cooler

than you. Missouri. No one says that. Mary. You know what Grandpa's epson says about missouris nobody goes it'll be cold and dead in the ground before he recognizes Missouri as a stay state. He has a flag that only has forty nine stars. I picked the right state and not attention to Chris. It's very funny to me because when I ever since I've known Chris, he was always living in not ever since, but when I first met him, he was living in New York. I think he was in New York

for like a dozen years or something, and then he moved elsewhere. But he still see like strikes me as a New Yorker. Seems pretty New York. Yeah, but every three once in a while, the Midwest slips out. You can't stop it. Yeah, trying to think of the last thing it was. It's very rare. You have strong opinions on barbecue. No, it's like, I think we really do that. It'll be in casual

conversation. It's nothing like specific or like a factoid that I'm like, oh, that the fact that we can catch a greased pig in less than sixty seconds. There you go. Well, Mary, you're kind of like me, but also kind of Midwestern. We're both. I don't think Ohio's Midwest. It is. I'm going to revoke that. I don't think that. I'm not provoke that I'm revoke you're not Midwestern. I'm sorry, miss better. Midwest is like I was surprised Minnesota and they said that Minnesota was the

Midwest. Maybe in Minnesota was North Midwest. I thought it was like Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois. You know, like Texas isn't kind of its own thing. You know, it's the middle of the country that you can get in Colorado. You know, you get up to you got like the Great Plains, and then you've got like longitudinally speaking, Yeah, it's

the Midwest. But Minneapolis or sorry, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. That's more like three states, which I love the Great Lakes area up there, Great Lakes, Yeah, rust Belt, but rust belt's more like former that's like a more of a geopolitical thing. Syracuse's rust belt as well, formerly industrial cities that are now rusting. I'm sorry to tell Mary though, that she's not Midwestern. I you can't tell me that. You don't get I don't make the rules. It's just can't revoke licenses. I went, I'm

just breaking the news. I'm just breaking the news. Why are not You don't get to make these up. I'm from Kansas, which is the most Midwest. Well, apparently it's not as good as Missouri. And now I'm on Chris plant side. No one's gonna agree with you on that. Sorry, I don't most Missouri and Missouri, and it isn't as good as Missouri. I love it is also not that great. I love it very far southwest Missouri. They're just garbage states that are going down the hill at the

same speed. And well, Ohio is the third. I'd say, no offense tall our Ohio overs of Ohio. The Civil War, those fucking Missouri assholes kept coming over because Kansas was the free state and they kept burning down Lawrence over and over again. Which state sounds like the cooler state there? Well, yes, Kansas. Well I don't. I don't think Kansas sounds cool at all there, because why would you keep rebuilding the city and letting it Lawrence is the one cool city in Kansas. I I've heard good things

from friends who have Bento, like basketball and football games. I just don't want to live most places besides New York. We've talked. I love Montreal, I love I love Minneapolis. I had a really good experience in San Francisco personally compared to a lot of people, but I would not move back there. I love to San Francisco. I just couldn't afford it. I loved everything about it. I just couldn't afford it. I had to say no to so many things weddings, you know, birthdays, okay, like

traveling to other things. I was like, I've hung out with you a lot in San Francisco. You did not say no to many things I was proposed to. All the time, I had to say no no. I mean like I couldn't go to things because I couldn't afford to. Yeah. So I don't want to live that way anymore. Where I have to plan whether or not I'm going to be able to see my mom because I can only fly once a year, because I can only save that much money. Very rarely, So it's just sucked. All my money went in the rent

and you could never buy there. No. No, I mean even people that are you know, my age and have worked there forever and like make good money and stuff, they can't. You can't buy a house in the fucking Bay Area. Not in the Bay never. Never. And I think LA is there too. Um in the last like ten fifteen years, prices of skyrocket in in LA. And I feel bad for a lot of my buds that live there because I don't think you can afford to buy there either

really anymore. Um, all houses are pretty nuts. O. I wonder if we're headed for a collapse. Is this what we talk about now? Or getting older? Yeah? My mortgage, it's crazy, It is crazy. Yeah, Um taxes, Like so, I never really gave a shit about taxes. And the other day I got my new uh mortgage payment which includes taxes, and my mortgage was hire your mortgage is never goes up, but the payment was up because taxes were higher, And I was like,

what the shit is this? My mortgage can't go up and it's because of taxes. It's because we're building like a new fucking school. And I immediately became that like old person that was like I don't want a new school. Yeah, you're going to use that box, Like, hey, are you going to use this? And if you don't, like I'm not going to drive on that road. Fucking school I went to in prison. It's not funny. We have a lot of problems incarceration. Let's sky. Why really

second guessing yourself this episode. Why just because you own a house do you have to pay tax on it? I don't really, I don't understan anything about taxes, but like, why just because I have a piece of land and a building on it or taxes involved? It's not I think I understand sales tax, you know, Yeah, but what forever tax is the homer tax? The homeowner tax is permanent because it's kind of what separates um like

one of those giant things that you get in your life. Once you're able to own property, they consider you like more of a permanent resident of that state, which means you should have permanent buy in for taxes the state. Yeah, because you're you're a resident, you like live there, whereas like when you're a renter, you're never you are living there, but you're not considered like permancient. Yeah, I love war, I love advertising. Missouri sucks. I'm a tax evader. Who am I like? One of those

things was true? I like advertising, advertising, school, war, war bad advertising, cool, never made taxes, and Missouri does suck. So, okay, have you watched Madmen? Have we talked about this before? Nobody started fucking Sopranos? Y? Yeah, four episodes in the Sopranos.

Wait, I thought you'd started before. Yeah, but it was back in college when I would like start shows and just be like fucking around in my laptop while it was on in the background, and so I didn't actually take anything in, So like, I might as well be watching it for the first time now. It's really fucking funny, and I think people forget that who haven't watched it in a while. It's one of the funniest shows ever, so far as you get into it. I didn't expect Tony Soprano to

be playing Mario Kart sixty four in one of the first episodes. The way he holds them controller is really good, and then he just puts his hand on AG's face. I do like that show a lot. Yeah, very into it. Yeah, we got We're like watching four. Is it four? Yeah? Four current shows? Did you watch the new no spoilers, but did you watch Barry yet? No? Okay, all right, there's just something Yeah. Three shows and then we're doing Barry tomorrow. We're doing

ted Lasso, Succession and um Marvelous Missus Maisiel season four. I believe Teo so far, I am stopping down with that show. I haven't seen it. We're just doing success or. I'm I'm just doing a succession and the other one, uh something else behind succession, and I think I'm up to date with Miss Maisel. The succession one is Unfortunate is a bit of like a dark tale, but it's honest, which is I always watch it with friends, and then one of my friends, UM got situation unexpectedly but literally

we couldn't watch the episode. Oh like, yeah, let's let's yeah, don't what's not? No? I mean, I'm just saying, like it's I get what you're saying, but we understand. Yeah, okay, how don't we do with that? Um? I think that's still pretty fresh. But I felt like I curved around it like James McAvoy and one U that fucking Ever since I saw the Onuma gameplay presentation and he shot that key sideball on the arrow and it went around corners like James McAvoy the Nintendo stealing ideas

again, I'm kidding um. This weekend I flew to North Carolina to visit my sister. She turned forty and we had a surprise fortieth birthday for her, which I thought. The one meat is North Carolina, the one on Bottomer It's a stupid you really should do him. I hate that guy. I should do stand up. I'd be big, big. How's your sister's birthday? It was good. Lots of interesting things that happened. In North Carolina. Having garage parties is very popular there. So her party took place

in a garage. This is standard apparently to my knowledge, everybody there parties in garages. Um, and there's built in bars in everybody's garage that you can serve you I'm moving to North Carolina. Like drinks. Typically they had karaoke and speaker systems, and it's all based in the garage. And so when you go to somebody's house, it's essentially like going to a bar.

That's awesome for that to be like a standardized thing like I've seen those before, but not like standardized statewide somewhere, like I would love to see that more. My friend had one that was like he had his TV and couches out in the garage and then he had this like little drum guitar and shit. But he was the anomaly. I wish it was like a custom where I was from, I could do that. It was. It's so prevalent that when we weren't drinking in my sister's garage, she'd be like, we're

going over at a Robin's house, and Robin had a garage bar. And then we were like, we're going over to Kat's house, and kat had a garage bar. We went to Like we just kept going to people's garage bars and we would have drinks and then we'd go to the next person's. It was like a very standard thing there. I found it pretty fascinating. And everybody has more booze than you could drink, like they have full bars.

Essentially, it does feel like your bar hopping. But when we did Katie's party, she didn't know we were having the fortieth, so it was an interesting experience to surprise her and then have all these subsequent party up like surprises. We had a this was interesting, a Michael Jackson impersonator do a full set at the at the at the party, like actually singing or like dancing. It was lip syncing to hit to Michael Jackson's music Picture This.

We're all sitting there and they turned the music down and they go, Katie, this one's for you and your fortieth and then they turn the music on and it's like the beginning to Beat It, and my sister's like dancing, and then the garage door opens and Michael Jackson standing there, yeah, with

his hand over his hat, just like you could imagine. And the guy even had that mike that goes in front of your mouth like Michael Jackson would have if he was performing, and he had everything that made it seem like he was doing a legit performance, but was lip syncing the entire Beat It performance and did like the moonwalk and everything. It was really surreal. Holy shit was it was a pretty like dance moves pretty good. It was not

bad. I think that considering he was doing it on a cement walkway, he did a pretty good job doing the moonwalk and his little spins and stuff. He was fully dulled up in all the makeup and hair and everything. It was definitely like later Michael Jackson if you're curious, like what style he was in at the time, But it was like towards the end of his tenure. Yeah, and guy kind of did have tenure. He did a bunch of fucked up stuff and he oh yeah, yeah, it's a pretty

crazy person. And then we yeah, towards the end, he he let everyone dance with him, and he even he even had some cake with us when he was over. Michael Jackson had cake with you, he did, he had some cake goodness. It was Yeah, it was very interesting. And then and then the party bus, which was also a surprise to everyone. So there was a party bus that showed up. We all got on the bus. Uh, we put on Michael Jackson, and then we went bar hopping. I'm a big fan of party buses. I think that is

a great deal. Like it's almost like a bummer when you get to the bars, because yeah, this was really fun, Like can we just drive around more of this kind of cake back here? It's only people we know, Yeah, it's not crowded everything everything. Yeah, yeah, we're moving

on a road, which is a fun novelty. We could put our hands over the driver's eyes and say, oh my god, I don't know where you party bus I've been on. Somebody has taken their pants down and put like smushed their butt cheeks against the back window while the car is in motion. So this tradition. Look, how many party buses have you been on? A lot? That was a movement that happened every time. Pretty, that was a moving yours is you? No? No, I don't do

but Willie and hilly stuff like that. I just solid that's a fucking girl. What is it? Oh, that's just a several hamrhoid sweetie. That's really You've got like seven assholes. God, look away. No, I would do a thing where if like a party bus pulled up at a bar I was at in college and also longer pass college that I should have a week ago. Yeah, basically, just like up until I was like twenty

eight, I would do this. A party bus bulls up and I'll just convince everyone I'm with it's like, let's just get on the party bus. And we would do it, and we'd walk on and I wouldn't lie or anything. Really, we would just like walk on. Somebody would be like eventually be like, hey, do you know the bird the birthday boy or you know the couple or whatever. It's like, no, I just saw

the party bus. I thought it'd be fun to come on and have some drinks, you guys, And every single time, everyone's in such a good mood they're just like, yeah, hey, random guy, and I would just wherever the bus win. That becomes like the story we uh. Like a couple of years ago, we were at this dive bar over in Brooklyn and we walked in and it was like right after like things had opened back

up. So we walked in and we were standing at the bar. The back court yard was open, et cetera, but it was all full and then this rehearsal dinner in the back room, one of the guys came out to the bar, just like Kendall Roy and it's like, hey, you guys looking for a spot. I'm like, yeah, let's pack that over. I think we're gonna go somewhere else. You could come and hang with

us if you want. And it was like close enough after a lockdown where I saw the big like family crowd in the back room, was like I appreciate it, but sometimes I want that to happen again so I can go hang with some random family during their rehearsal dinner. You guys are talking about like wedding crashers, but you're just like crashing party buses. Yeah that seemed less. Uh, I don't know. Wedding crashing seemed like too much of

a like a someone's wedding. This is very expensive. This is like not I wouldn't feel comfortable crashing a wedding necessarily, but like a party bus, like that's just a fun time for everyone. Yeah, that's like not the most important day of someone's life. No, that's someone getting fucking wasted. Yeah, exactly. Know this random guy came up and that we're all friends, you know. Yeah, ideally partybus are fun. Um. So we did the party bus and eight Barbecue and Carolina Barbecue I did. Yeah,

it was very good. It was a couple of places there that have excellent barbecue grits. I had collared greens and I had mac and cheese as my sides. Mac and cheese barbecue places grits North. I have grits tonight. Grits are good as hell, underrated. I think I like gritz I haven't done that in a hot minute. But I do love I love shrimp and grits. I've only done that. I've never like ordered shrimp. I don't

think I've eaten it. I'm not like I won't leave a room if shrimp are present, but I don't go out of my way to be near them. Them the weirdest way to say I'm a different about something. Yeah, kids never left a room if there were Irish people present, But I've also never like gone out of my way to be near them. I'm just fine with Irish people. Yeah, but now he's made you anti Irish. I did not expect this turn. I don't understand as the most Irish person in

games media. I can't think of anyone who's Mico hardy Irish present. Yeah. God, I can't think of anybody either. No, North Carolina sounds r though I don't want to go. It was cool. I used to go there all time for like epic stuff when I was in a game Informer. And then there's extended family out there. So we was Raleigh, right that Carry which is near you'd fly into Raleigh and then go out to Carry.

Yeah, and then we got some on the end. Last side they got a trailer down there, so we spent some time there during the pandemic. And yeah, I like North Carolina. That's good. East Coast development studios are always kind of in like this random little spot outside for Axis epic. Who else is out of around there? Maybe it's just them? Oh no, there's like rock Star Bangalore. Are they still there up in Maine?

Oh? I didn't even know they had one. I think it's like a purely corporate spot, though I don't think it's the actual studio though New York doesn't have as many as you would think. I mean they've got like there's a decent like publishers and stuff like private Division and Avalanche Avalanche, Yeah, I mean rock Star. Yeah, people can Fly has like a branch here. Yeah. But rock Star, even though is largely like PR and like some upper level, it's like a corporate office for the most part.

Yeah, yeah, it really is. I wish there was more. I do too, But I also kind of like, now that I live here at this age, I kind of like that it's all over there away from me and keep the games people out of me. Yes, yeah, precisely. Um, but yeah, God, San Francisco, there are everywhere.

Oh, lousy with games media, lousy with them. I don't like leave the room when they're game developers there, But I don't developers seemed pretty pretty like nice folks overall games media and there the games media in sufferable idiots. But a game developers seem all right, a bunch of babies, a bunch of whiny bitches. As I said not too long ago, I need to get in touch with her. Shit. Um anyway, I want to talk about video games. Sure, I like video games. All right, we're

gonna get some video games. We've been playing as usual. However, we had a listener email voice message. Close friend and family had a bone to pick with us, Dan, I don't know you frame it. I don't know if she has a bone to pick with us. It's Kayla, and she's just insane. We've talked about her radio rankings, and she has now played through most of what I would call like the real Resident Evil games, which are like all the number numbered ones and all the remakes. Well,

I guess you only played one in two remakes. She never played the original one or two or three? Um, so she sent it sounds like she doesn't have a very good education for this argument sounds like she has no grounds to stand on. She's my family, but I will not defend this. These are not my opinions or my words at all. I'm just gonna hit the button and play it. It is very funny too, because people keep

sending her on her disorder, on her community. They keep sending her like more and more obscure as an evil games and she feels if someone sends her a game, she has to play it on stream. So now she's done Code Verona. Stop feeling that she's been doing. She's doing both Revelations. Now she got like umbrella chronicles. So she just keeps getting and playing through the first of all Code Veronica, both Revelations and what was the These are

good umbrella chronicles? Oh that in dark Side Chronicles. The Wesker Chronicles are the rail games, not dark Side Chronicles. That's a new thing coming out. Wesker Chronicles, those are the rail Laura dumps. Yeah. I just find it very funny that, like if she hates Resideaval two and four remake, and yet she's playing through these fucking like wee games, and even Resideaval

fans don't like It's it's very funny to me. Very like your family though, which is if it's a gift, you're like, well, I I have to I need it because it was free, and well then I have to yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to take full advantage of this. Yeah. It's like your father, like fully involved. You know, it's just filtering through to the children with him. It's like if he sees a half smoked cigarette on a parking lot, then he asked to smoke in

the same same concept. Basically, I'm gonna play on this. Okay, never mind, I'm gonna hit play. I've not heard this. It is a audio file from Kayla going over her rankings. I think she recorded this right after she finished four or five or six or something like that. So here we go. Hello fire Escape through big fan of the podcast, listen

to it all the time, of course. And uh, you know, I've noticed that Dan likes to update you guys about my Resident Evil Journey, which you know, I have my thoughts about it, and I know that you guys are curious of my Resident Evil rankings. That's where you're actually not disclosure did not grow up playing these games. I officially started my residume Evil Journey keeping Ny February, three weeks ago. In the order I was born

on a cold day, Reside Evil, Biohazard, then Resideval Village. Then I played Resumeval one, two, three, four, five, six, and then Coveronica. So that was all. So I played and beat nine Reside Evil games. So officially I am a Resonaval professional. I have a fresh and popping perspective series that I would love to share with you guys best. Much like a YouTube video, this recording could have started. Now we'll go from my most favorite first place all the way to ninth number one.

So here they are in first place, Resideval Village, second place, Residume Evil Code, Veronica, Resident Evil Biohazard, fourth place, resid Evil five. Okay, it was actually kind of cool. Three sixth place, Resident Evil four, seventh place, Reside Evil six in eighth place, Resident Evil two in the last place where it belongs, Resident Evil one. You belong a long and happy life if I never have to watch a door open again,

So take that as you would like. I know that you're probably seeing in your praises a list right now, so feel free to send all your fanmail to my peel box, and I hope you enjoy that. See you later. Fire Escape, thank you, kay. I will actually say that ranking is thank you. Most of that ranking is actually kind of interesting. The first Yeah, first three, I was like, okay, this is Resumeal Village being number one. It's actually not like that's a really it's a

good game. It's a very taken as a strong like weirdo, I love this. That's like a tim Turry number two. So again that's weird because she the fact that she couldn't handle one or two because inventory management, but she likes fucking Code Veronica. Of all Code Veronica is the worst in terms

of inventory management. There's that whole FIREX thing with your puzzle with the metal detector that you have to like double back around the entire Arctic research station, and the thing where you can break the game if you don't have the right step for the tyrant fight. Like, I just don't understand how that's so high on her list. Seven being high is also seven very seven, seven my second favorite Resumeval game. Seven's like it's very very good, but six

being that high, and then yeah, one remake being that low. No. Five was really high. I was number four for her. Five. There's nothing to write home about and one and two remake being the last two is but she played five Yu Dan. I think that that can make it go up, because playing with a friend or family that you enjoy really does elevate and experience. Yeah, and honestly I had fun with it. Two. I saw more of its flaws like I talked about, but it's it

was fun honestly, even six was kind of fun. Up one remake is one of my favorite games. Ever, However, I'm not surprised when people say they don't like it if they play it for the first time today when they're like upper twenties, I don't as salt them for that. But remake is so to remake that, to remake that low is what throws me. I mean, that's just it. That's just wrong. And to put three above both of those is just confusing. I like like the original three more

than I like three remake, which is a weird outtake. Remake is there's just not forgettable. There's not a lot there. It's so thin, and it's got like really you know, wacky lines. Yeah I did. I didn't love it him, Yeah, sucked up. It's better than having a boring ranking. I guess. I guess that's yeah, there you go. I'm being the nice one. I can't believe she told us her whole life story before explaining she gave the date I think we're talking about. She gave

the date that she started playing her resident. It was like an essay that you write class. In this essay, I will prove that I am a resident evil expert. Furthermore, ergo, I have come to the conclusion that perchance you can't just end a sentence in perchance. Oh is the Mario thing you're doing it? Yeah? Um, okay, I'll give Kayla's ranking. Yeah, let's let's four out of ten. Let's I'll give it a two. Fire escape it. I would say that fuse fuse it. I don't

think I have the button right now. God damn it, just to a fart. We have not fused anything in like thirty episodes. Yeah, we gotta get back on that. I couldn't possibly give her more than two. Okay, I think two is good, So we'll average out of the three, or it's actually like a high two if we were road two and he was a four. Four is just purely because it's like a unique list. Yeah, she's a unique person. Yeah. Before Yeah, I went to a comedy seller. Yeah, it's fun. We don't hate her, I

don't definitely don't hate. Don't hate my sister. She's fantastic. She's just insane. After that list, do you love her more or less? You could say a little bit less. You don't lie exactly the same. Would you leave video as you just saw Dan wink and shake his head and watched him squirm? You followed team Kayla on Twitch. She does a great job up playing through residentavals on Twitch. Yeah, followers less less love. That's the trade off. That's right, I'll take it. I supposedly blue check

marks are going tomorrow again. I can't heard that. Yeah, I can't good. I want Twitter to burn again. I want it all. I was so excited. Remember there are those nights where everyone's like doing their like memories of Twitter and stuff's like, oh, it's not going to be here in the morning, it's all crashing and burning. I really wanted it to actually I wanted them to fucking die that night. And it's shambling along. It's getting worse and worse and worse, but like I wanted to actually die.

I want it to be done, and I want to lose the check mark. I want all that stuff. Um, it's just it's kind of still happen right, Like giant news outlets are leaving everything now right. Microsoft said they're they're done supporting Uh what do they say? Microsoft said that their API campaigns, which is like this marketing packages, will no longer support Twitter because Twitter's charging big companies like forty six k a month to be part of

those. Yeah. Insane, Yeah so that yeah, anyway, you know it is not insane, but kind of because there's like this insanity panic meter. Is the game Dredge? Oh I want to hear about I know Lucy's hot on it. I've heard good things about it. Tell me what this deal is in why I should play it As someone who appreciates like a very tight, nuanced gameplay loop that can keep you coming back and hooked and rewarding

every step of the way. Dredge nails it. It's like, sure, it's a fishing game, but it's got this incredible like, Okay, go out fish, grab a couple certain kinds of fish, maybe dredge a little bit for supplies from shipwrecks, and then come back trade it into certain villagers, and it's super quick. You go back to the village and you click on one icon that's like the shipwright or the tradesmen or whatever, go back

out fish, and then night starts to fall. You've got this like day night cycle, and obviously if you've gathered anything from the game, it kind of takes on these lovecrafty and horror elements. I haven't seen a single image. I don't even know how to look. Is it start fishing? Is it like what type of fishing? Is its third person? Um? Is it trying to compare it to what game it would look like like Watercolory Indie looking Um. Yeah, it has like a maybe like a low poly third

person but it's not top down. It's it's um isometric, and the actual fishing element is two D. It's typically a timing thing where you're hitting X at the right time or you're moving up and down at the correct time to get the fish. But traveling around on the boat is very wind wakery. You yeah, you are controlling the boat and moving around with your left joystick.

It plays like a dream on the steam deck and traveling around in the ocean has these wonderfully like iconic moments where sometimes dolphins will start swimming up next to your boat, and a whale breached in front of me once and I actually went, oh my god, like it's like I would if a real whale breached in front of me. I had these. I had so many moments where I yelled out loud because this game really surprised me. As Mike

said, the lovecrafty and element is really interesting too. What hooks me The gameplay is fun, but what hooked me is the bait. Right away, they start saying that something weird is happening at night. The former fisherman went crazy, and to be careful swimming, or like swimming, be careful fishing at night. And if you keep your boat out at night, weird shit

happens to you. Oh, stuff starts coming out of the dark. You see eyes staring at you, whispers in your ear, and then you'll actually get attacked by stuff like there's crazy like there's tentacle stuff, there's ghost sharks, there's all sorts of stuff that starts to like come after you. I think what's fun, though, is the surprise element of it. So I hate, like I don't want to give all it away because I think experiencing those surprises. It's like an eight hour game total if you play through it

supposedly, do you know if it runs well on Switch? I don't know the Steam Deck, and I couldn't. I couldn't recommend steam deck more. It's such a wonderful game on the Steam Deck, man, I don't. I don't know why. I for some reason, whenever people were talking about I was picturing, I thought it looks like down well. I thought it was like like black and white pixel. No idea why I thought that.

But there's just I wanted to look at this some of these images. Yeah, so it's you come back to towns and when you're talking to the mayor or the ship. Right, those character models take on more of a disco elysium kind of watercolor. They're really good looking, but most of the game is that kind of low poly. Yeah, maybe Unity Engine kind of look it's very simple like minimalists. I think it's really good looking. There's you go to New Islands. You meet this engineer, weird scientist over on this

island with a lighthouse, and he gives you more missions. I'm trying to think of what game reminds me if it does remind me of Started Valley in the sense that like there's this day night cycle, and in this one day you're like, Okay, the fishmonger wants three sting rays, four giant bass, and then two carp That alone will get me more money because it's a specific quest he gave me. Otherwise you can still selfish to make money. You do those quests. So that's your day right there. Sun falls while

you're getting your last carp It gets kind of creepy. You turn your lights on, which you can upgrade. The lights will help you not crash into rocks, which will require repairs when you get back, but they will also they're more likely to attract weird shit at night. So you get back to the village. Maybe it's like four am. You could sleep. You talk to the ship right in the morning to repair your ship, and then you

get new research stuff. It's like, oh, a better rod to catch ocean going fish and not just shallows fish, as well as a more powerful light, a faster engine. You're kind of constantly upgrading stuff, so it's like survival light elements meets crafting, but it's all like really bite sized. You're not out on the yeah, the horror stuff is like really well done

because it kind of sneaks into that gameplay loop. There's been a couple times where like my ship got really fucked up and I had it took me like ten minutes to get back to town, which is rare because most of this game is really cool, like pick up and play bite size like go on the water. A day in game is probably like five minutes and it's click. Yeah, it's pretty rapid fire, like go pick this stuff up, dredge the shipwrecks. Get oh, the stuff I just picked up from the

shipwreck. One of these things I could just sell. But another this widow on that island wanted to remember her husband, so she'll give me this thing. It's it's just like a really tight gameplay loop of like they're back, they're back, Oh right, ten other things I could be doing right now, But it never feels overwhelming. It's the creepiness of it that really gets me. If you fish at night, Dan, sometimes you'll get the weird

ones and you'll get a variation of a fish. They're called to aberrations, and they will be like or I think that's what it's called, and they it'll be a bass, but maybe it has no skin, so it's like all the meat and bones. I love that because like I'm a sucker for even like straightforward like stardu or animal crossing fishing stuff where it's like, oh, this season or this time of day, I can catch this. Oh, but I gotta go at night to catch this thing. It sounds like

this has that, but also with like a weird element to it. It has a fucked up element. And the drawings just like how he was saying how the drawing of the mayor is really good and artistic and a little creepy. The fish are fucking creepy. So if you get a weird fish, um an alternate version of a fish, sometimes it's an absolute freak of nature.

I saw ones that were like all teeth man, just like teeth on teeth on teeth, and then they have descriptions of them as well that help explain what happened to them or like what's wrong with them, and they're really messed up to all. The writing is really messed up. You find bottles in the water and they're telling a story and the story gets really creepy, and you'll meet people who will need things from you, but they'll be really

creepy. Everything's so creepy. I met. I went to an island randomly, and I met a hooded figure in green that was like brain May at aish and he asked for a very specific fish. So I go get it for him, and I deliver it to him, and the text said that before I could even give it to him, he snatches it and just eats the head right off and like grinds it in his teeth in front of me. It's just like these like weird descriptions that make you really stressed out.

There's an area in the aisles where you have to get something and you can hear a fish tracking you or being near you, And the first time you can see that you could possibly be hunted or be in danger from some of these creatures, it freaks you out. I fell in love with this game. I beat it this week on stream. I've put more than eight hours into it at this point because I'm trying to get all the fish. I've fully upgraded my entire boat, I've gotten all the collectibles, and I absolutely

adore this game. Similarly to Zelda, it said, you have everything you need, would you like to finish the game, and I said no because I can't stop playing it. Okay, this is yeah speaking like I am looking for something between this and Zelda, and I don't really have anything I'm playing right now. This sounds ideal right now. Also, the inventory management

your cargo space is a Tetris esque resuval for inventory. Case you have to say no catch you catch certain fish, like the car will be t shaped, you know if it Tetris them with the the man raise, which are huge, but they're sharing space with your rods and yours and your engines. Yeah, so sometimes you have to get you have to like say no. You'll get like a giant, amazing fish and you'll be like, I literally don't have room for this. Um. There are people that get on your

boat and you have to make room for them. It's really interesting. That sounds awesome. Okay, it's good. Yep, yep, Okay. I mean I think by the next episode I will have played it. Think it might be second or third favorite game of the year so far. It will be in my top ten, no question. What big ones have come out this year so far. My favorite game of the year so far as Octopath Traveler too. Oh Okay, so Dredge and resume before are both Oh yeah,

yeah, yeah yeah. Bonk has been playing I don't think this is new, but Bonk has been playing not fucking down Well dome Keeper. Uh yeah, that came out a while ago, right, For some reason, I thought it was a couple of years old. But every time I passed by and I look at the screen as she's been playing, and I'm like, I like everything I'm seeing right here. It looks just super dewey. It looks like, you know, it's got like almost like a missile command

type thing up top and then instead it's like rogue like down bottom. It looks really really cool. Like, that's another one I want to check out. Me. Haunted Chocolate Tier is supposed to be this year. Yes, what's that? It's a sequel to start you it's it's it's chuckle Fish. It's the guy that made that. It's not a sequel, but it's the same same guy, the same guys. It's starting valley, but you're a chocolate tier in a haunted mansion, like selling Chocolate to the showed a trailer

for this sometime, right. It was a direct or, was it? No? It was a state of play, I believe, okay, and that's coming out soon. I was asking, I don't know if there's this year or not, but yeah, it's uh, what's his name is chuckle Fish or that a publishers. I think it's chuckle Fish. I mean I think that's the developer that's like pseudonym or whatever. It's the next star to But yeah, you're a chocolate tier in the like lobby of an old medieval

haunted castle. Is there like like crafting farming type stuff involved? Yeah? Yeah, really you're instead of a farmer, you're a like artist and chocolate maker. But what who goes into like like a farm is like animals and vegetables and beards, like chocolate is just that's where the haunted part comes in. Yeah. Like, yeah, I was gonna say, I like that you're saying it's nothing like farming. But then you're like, I realized, I don't know how chocolate is made. I don't know if you're going to

actually be going from the cow. Do you think that you'll be getting the cocon Yeah you can. You can tell me it's made from eggs, and I would believe you. There's eggs in a lot of chocolate, but like you could be going to get the actual cacao from a jungle. But I imagine it's just like stuff being transported the castle. I have no idea. The mind wanders, imaginations run wild. What a time time, I don't know. I was just God, video games are so fucking stupid. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, I think. But no, Dredge is fucking awesome. It's it's good steam neck game and I have not heard any complaints on Switch, so either one would be good. Dredge is my number one game I'm looking to play next. Oh you'll pick You'll pick it up, and then it will be three hours later and you'll excellent. Yeah. Amen, good. We're talking about crafting in the Sufferia. And I want to bring

something up here because I have not played this game much at all. I was just getting it ready because I think we're gonna play it on Giant Bomb, and so I had to get to the point where could unlock co op and at Island two and so I have no thoughts on the game as a whole, but it made me think of a couple of things just in the

twenty minutes I played or whatever. First of all, I thought this game has come out like eight times, because the first one came out forever ago, right, it was like fucking twenty twenty third around there, right, And then there was Dead Island riptide right, yes, which felt like was that not a sequel? What was it was? Yeah? I don't know, it wasn't. It was an expansion that turned into a it has a different case. It was a standalone game, yea different four characters. So

I assume that was Dead Island two. And then Dying Light comes out and it wasn't Dying Light like supposed to be from the developers of Dead Island and the game, so I kind of assumed, like, oh, well, that's the next Dead Island it is. So that's why Dead Island two is was kind of weird and obsolete to begin with, because Dying Light and its sequel are both, in my opinion, very good games that kind of rendered Dead Island's formula obsolete because they took a team. Is it the same team

that made The Winter? Is this just a total they on the IP or something? No? So this one between three studios. The final release was from Dambuster Studios. I believe they're Dutch. Might be wrong there, Okay, but it was a trio of studios that passed between that Deep Silver kind

of moved it between. Actually, now I'm curious, Well, I started to get to the co op stuff, and it's like I got anything about crafting because like just in the first you know, ten fifteen minutes or whatever, I noticed I was like picking up like, oh, you got a plank of wood and you got some bolts or something, and I could just tell the way the weapons where it's like, oh right, there's one of those games where I'm doing a lot of crafting and stuff. And I realized,

like, hey, does crafting suck? Like there are games where it's really good where it's like I think games that are focused around it, like Stardo, Minecraft, Valheim, The Forest, you know, games that are very much survival like like this is the system is like that is the game is the like crafting and surviving and everything. But like I think like that Island is a I think more in first person action games open world type stuff.

Isn't it just more of a hassle? Like at this point, I'm trying to think of, like I hate crafting outside of crafting dedicated game. Did you like crafting in God of War No, No, the New Ones No. Well I guess well, then I would think, like maybe our edge is that like sometimes crafting is an essential core mechanic of the game because it's about discovering and putting things together and finding out what you can do with it. Whereas I think in the games we're talking about, they were like,

well, we need a way to do upgrades. If you find shit in the world and then you find enough of it, then you can upgrade your weapon, which doesn't feel as satisfying to me. Like I feel like though, if the game is like an action game, like I don't know,

like the Old God of Wars or Devil May Cry. I know those are cyclist action games that's different than what we're talking about, but like you just got red Orbs and you just funnel the red Orbs into whatever you want to, like, yeah, level up all your bullshit with red Orbs. Like I don't get any more satisfaction by like oh, I found some tape and some scissors and some solution, and you know, like I didn't just did Last of Us. I did? I did, And like I'm trying

to think, like is it fun? Is anyone do we like this? I like when you have genuine choice. So what I liked about the last of a system and that exact example that you're bringing up, is that when I found Solution and when I found Rags, I could make bandages with it, but I could also make maltav with it, so I could choose whether or not I was making something for violence or making something for defensive for myself, and I changed it based on what I needed at the time. That

was fascinating. It was about like giving me autonomy to decide what I needed. Us did a good job with it. That we Last of Us was like it was simple enough. There were like, you know, a handful of different things. You got it and like occasionally would find a bench and

could do stuff with it. I think I'm thinking more of like Horizon, Like, yeah, Horizon, were eight million dumb fucking things that don't mean anything and they're everywheres so nothing feels like it matters, versus like you go into a supply room you found were like, yes, exactly where it's like

Horizon, You're just constantly picking shit up. And I'm not trying to just single out Horizon, but like there are a lot of games like that, whereas you're constantly picking shit up. None of it feels special, and it's just busy work to build a fucking stick weapon or something. You know. It's yeah, it's like that. It's a combination of scarcity, which Last of Us does well. Like when you find stuff, it works because you're

already so ill equipped. Fallout I like it as well because a lot of that stuff Fallout A is more obviously this open ended RPG where you're building this huge inventory. Dead Island, it's more like the difference between the spike baseball bat and this electric machette. There's still ultimately doing the same thing and then

hitting two. Yeah, there's no scarcity too, and that first I played Dead Island two up until I defended those rich people's house, until the character from the first game showed up with the shotgun to the actor um, and I just got bored really quickly. And it was the same problem I had with the earlier games, where scavenging doesn't add to the game because you stop paying attention to what's around you. You're just looking for It doesn't matter what

those little items are. You're just picking the shelves clean and you're just like putting the camera really close to the shelves, whereas Last of Us are still paying attention to your surroundings because the items are not littered everywhere, and there might be a zombie right around the corner. With dialand too, it's like there could be a zombie right around the corner, but it's still this dumb

action game. Yeah, Dying Light figured that out because Dying Light actually made night scary because the zombies get fucking terrifying at night and you're sprinting and you can look behind you and there's the park or element we talked about at Game of the Year Dying Light Two's grappling hook. There's there's a lot more at playing Dying Light. And so tech Land moved to Dying Light, and then Yeager, who did spec ops the line. Yeah they did some weird stuff.

They also did dreadnom Yeah they did Dreadnought that ship to ship dog Fighting sixth thing. It was spaceships, but it was like dog Fight specific, like it was almost a first person shooter but you were using spaceships. It was actually really fucking cool. I don't know what happened with it, but then it went from Yeager to Sumo Digital and then it went from Sumo Digital to dam Bus or studio who released it. But it just I'm playing Dying

or Dead Island too. I'm like I would, I would just much rather go play Dying Light too. Sign Light two figured out a lot of these problems to keep you engaged in this world that that Island two has not seemed to do. Give you a lot of mobility, something that was really interesting about Dying Light. I mean, you're You're so right. It solved a lot of problems that it also added so much gameplay element climbing buildings, being able to run and dive and jump away at such a speed. I'm turning

around and seeing the zombies chasing like that. Um. Environmental damage was extremely fun in uh in that game. And I just think like this at this point, it's not that we're not interested in zombie games. I'm very interested in zombie games. But you do have to move forward, and I don't see what this is doing that we have an already experience, Like what's new about Dead Island. What I'm hearing you say is it's time for Dead Rising to come back. Yeah? God, I loved Rising. Um Well,

firstly, Dan Busters not dutched their English. Um. And secondly, I'm so fucking done with people setting games in this like ironic California. Oh my god, we're movie stars and it's Dead Island too, And none of these studios are American, and even the studios that are American like have this, Even studios from California have this perception to California, like have you guys actually lived there and not like in your development studio, Like game developers need to

get out more. Is my take on all this. Except for Nintendo. They're doing fine. They could keep doing their thing. They're the only good development studio left. Oh yeah their first party stum. But in all seriousness, yeah, I I I actually kind of liked um. Well fuck, I'm forgetting the name of this game. No, um, nintend Motorcycle in Oregon and Zombie Game the Day's gone. Everyone's face like you were the guy, You were the guy? Okay. Yeah, it's super fun, but

like at least they were doing new stuff with it. They were doing something new. It was a warm base. It was really fun. Yeah, good for you, But I don't know, Oh, yeah, you're so high brow if you're like meeting of like a quality writing. Yeah, it's the writing that bothered me, not the boring game. Um, but writing is what I judge games though. Yes, yeah you know, uh less must do more talking as it's no hemingway, he said, And if you play a game and it is true and it is good, then you will

see it for what it is and it will be good. JFK. No, it's hemingway. J boat guy, did you have a boat? My fellow Americans, Dead Island two is out today. You must go go to your local Toys a Ross and get it black Ops, for they're like zombie motors, like your JFK and fucking FDR right you were to know it wasn't black ops. You were brainwashed to assassin ate JFK in No. Yeah, I think one of you could play as JFK and like Castro. I remember,

as if I haven't thought about that before, Trey arc Um. Yeah, Dead Island two to not leave a great impression. I mean I played an hour. I'll play it for the stream and then I will never think about that game again. And I'm a sucker for mindless isombie games. I love zombie games. I'm always interested, but I think I think it does at this stage. You gotta mix it up a little bit. You have to be offering something we haven't seen before. I just I can't get into

it. I don't like Dying Light. I don't know like Dying Light too. I don't like the first time. I don't like any of those games. I just don't like melee when you're I don't think it's fun to do melee when you're surrounded by like just hitting urt while you can't move in a bunch of shits all around you. Like, that's not fun first person gameplay to me, Like, that's I don't know, I can't get a dead

rising. I like because it was wacky and third person and like there's a lot of variety of the ways it was and yeah, and again it had a lot of innovation, like figuring out the first time, figuring out that you could put stuff in the blenders and make original concoctions and being like, okay, I'm cooking now, that's really neat, getting really rare weapons and saving them for like, you know, specific situation, combining things to make

them into new weapons that you wouldn't you swear wasn't possible. And then, like you said, doing silly things the first time you like find out that you can put masks on those zombies. It's funny pictures and stuff you could take. Like there was just so much like personality there. And I feel like every time I play a Dead Island or Dying Light, I'm just mashing urt while things are like bad, bad, and it's just like that's not

fun to me. Ever, It's I've never had a second of fun with any of those games, and like, I don't are people liking this one? Is it supposed to be a good one? Mike? You don't seem hot on it. I from what I've read and edited, I don't think so. Okay, is it out yes Friday or no? Advanced Words is Friday. Dead Island two might be out now, I could play a dance Wards right now. Okay, seventy five on Metacritic. That sounds about right. I thought it came out mid April past mid a. No, no,

no, it's not. I'm pretty sure Otober of twenty one, two days. Yes, Friday, Friday, so it'll be out by the time this is out. Advanced Wars is also Friday. Hell yeah, I'll play that. I play that. We talked about that last time I played More Jake was listening to recording and recommended I played the second game instead, just kind of skip over the first one, Rising black Moon Rising. Yes, yeah too, as much. I didn't dislike the first one. It's just

I see where it started. Oh they're both on that, aren't they. Yeah, And it's kind of misleading because they gray out the second game, I believe, until you do a bit of a tutorial and then you can choose the second game. But they'll say, hey, we highly recommend you play the first game first. But Jake was like, now, I just play the second one, and it's better. There's way more options, there's

more considerations with different units, better more involved maps. The first one was more just kind of a cool glimpse into like this game Boy Advanced Tactics light era that they were messing around with when fire Emblem was already in its stride. Uh. But they're really snappy, the animals, like I like. I love that you can just fast forward ship when the combat actually happens. It's simple enough. It's a nice break from the fucking shit I play most

of the time. That's like, I spend forty five minutes preparing for a battle and then actually doing it as like ten, I feel like, yeah, Advanced Wars and like Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced those were like, that's my speed of tactics stuff like like Mike, I know you go super deep into that stuff, and I think it's cool and games let you do that. And I like x Com and I've played enough of those too appreciate those, but like, I think Advanced Wars is kind of a sweet spot for me.

Yeah, I would take Jake's advice and as soon as you can play the second game, just go to that. The first like feels just like a big tutorial. Okay, but they look great. Nice. I didn't play the originals, but yeah they're snappy either. Quick good nice? Um, are you been playing anything else? Dan? Just real quick? The Vampire Survivors DL see as ow. There's another one who's Tari. Yeah. The three Majors in the like the hog orts ish thing in the woods basically,

uh, there's some new characters and a couple of new maps. I don't really know what the characters are, but they got different weapons and they're supposed to be these three majors that are from the school nearby in the woods, like a Wizards school or something. I mean, there's no fucking text or talking in that game, so I don't know what the fuck they are,

but description entirely, Oh what are the new weapons? Um fuck, there's like this, Uh, I don't know how many are new and how many games since like the last DALC, but like there's like this prism thing. There's this like arrow thing that goes through like in a seven Enemies, but it has like a really slow reload. Um. You know my thing with every new DEALC with that is I just go to the challenge thing because

I've I've beaten all the challenges in that game too. Every time there's a DLC, it's like, oh, here's eight new things I haven't done, and I'll do those didn't unlock new ones, so I just you know, checkmark checkbox, go through twe of those, and once it's done, I would wait for the next thing. So it's just more of that game. There's like weird puzzles in the couple new maps or whatever, like oh,

there's this crystal in the middle of the map. I gotta figure out how to break that thing, and you just wind up fucking googling, and you know it's not It's not like a fun puzzle thing. It's just any excuse to keep playing that game. I'm gonna keep doing for like a dollar eighty. So what was that Nicholas Cage vampire movie like that came out recently Renfield? Did you see Renfield? They have a game that's gonna just be a Vampire Survivors clone. No, I'm almost positive I'm not making this up.

I mean, I guess that's Vampire Survivors. I see is the movie is what Nicholas uh Cage is his name, Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt from Mad Max and the what's the what's the fucked up Chef movie from Last de Menu? Oh? Yeah, yeah, here this on polygon dot com. Nick Cage's vampire movie. Rinfield now has a Vampire Survivors like game tie in. Let me see Mike mcborder right that I think Owen s Good Oh Good wrote that. Okay, yes, let's I think that movie looks very lame.

Uh. I just I don't like any of the ones where it's just like, hey, I feel like I'm being really complaining this episode, but uh yeah, we're sucking open God, open your eyes, enjoy things say one thing you like, Dan, I don't think say one thing you like before you go forthing I like, Yeah, um anal pocket. I played a bunch of that on the Pathway. Three. Three things you like? Three things I like? One has to be a person. Bunk fucking didn't even

think, yeah what. I mostly like things, but yeah, like Redfield is like, I just don't like the things that are like, oh, meme, Nicholas Cage, Like I feel like there are a lot of Nicolas Cage movies Uncei'll take every fucking role where its like, oh, we're he's gonna be wacky Cage. We're gonna write a bunch of wacky Cage in where screaming. It's like, no, you don't need to do that. He's gonna have his own flavor. Let's let him do his fucking thing. You

don't have to try to force it out of him. And and it just seems like it's trying to be a Nick Cage and I don't like that as much. But anyway, yes, it looks like there is a Vampire Survivors Like here, Jake keeps telling me to watch Pig Dude. Yes, fucking who I trust him? Who tell you Jake. Jake. Jake's right, Jake, Jake is. I know a lot of people think they are. Jake knows Nicholas Cage is portfolio better than anybody I know. So Nicolas Cage,

Oh yeah, he was such a fan. Jake uses the what's in the bag a shark or something line like three times a night when we're hanging around or something. Yeah from Wickerman. Oh, the woman at the dock or the guy at the doc comes out. He's like, what's in the bag shark or something? Jake. Jake also does a really good depression. Why do you not know this? What do you think pig is? Um? I've heard it describe briefly as like or at least my understanding is that

his pig gets kidnapped and he goes in a killing spree. Okay, that's what the trailer is, and yes that you're you're not wrong. You should watch it and then shut up for the rest shut up, trust Stake. So it's like, I'm going, you don't to couch. You can just tell me to shut the fun I'm saying, it's not what you think it is. Shut the fuck up. Okay, it is so genuinely good it's not like Nicholas Cage is so waggy. It's just fucking good. Treach the

choir. Like again, I trust Jake's taste there and like he I've just told him i'd watched it. But I love Color from the Screen and Shake You. Mandy's awesome. I love I love Mandy. I think Color out of Space was fine. Pig is better than both of those pigs are really good. It's the one where he's in the theme park overnight. That's meme shit. That's yeah. And there is a five Nights at Freddie movie coming out. Hold on, what is the Nicholas Cage movie where he's in the

theme park overnight. It's like wally World's World something. It's some dumb weekend at wally Worlds or something. It's Memel Cage. Yeah, that that looks really stupid. My favorite Nicholas Cage movie is Conner. So that's the bar you gotta surpass Willie's Wonderland. Yeah, yeah, I'm kidding. By the way, it's okay. What is my favorite Nicholas Cage movie Moonstruck. I haven't seen that. It's good. My parents love it. It's one of

their favorite movies. To get like to watch together. I haven't watched it, so I can't speak to how it holds up. But he has this whole speech Okay, I don't know if this is like cool nowadays, but he has a whole speech about how so his brother is gonna marry Share from what I remember, but they live in Brooklyn and these brownstones, and he has a Nicholas Cage character as a wooden hand. So he goes off on this monologue about how his brother has everything because he's got a good job,

he's got Share. And then he's like just going off for a while about how his brother has his hand and he doesn't. But it's Nicolas Cage just like pointing at his hand and yelling at chair that he has doesn't have a hand in the basement of this brownstone. Now that I say it out loud, I don't know how the movie holds up, but I know the movies about it, didn't She wanted to ask her for that, right? It's

a rom com. Yeah, oh, but like to Brooklyn Italian Americans in Love Crazy Kids, the mine wanders quit saying, Oh, to be an aunt on the wall in that set, an aunt not a fly that's the new that's the new fly. Oh, to be an aunt, to carry things much heavier than me, to move breadcrumbs from one spot to another, to be with other aunts in a line, to all the sexy stories of people who think they're alone. No, just to be an aunt, to go into dirt and to cover myself and dirt, and to go into holes

I love. Just to puke into my friend's mouths when they need a meal, showing up way too late. No, my favorite Nickels Cage movie, probably The Rock is really good. Yeah, incorrect information, So Mike, correct me with your aunt knowledge if I'm wrong. But I was under the impression that worker ants literally don't do anything besides work, so they don't get

food for themselves. So certain ants have food and essentially like they share mouthfoods so that everybody's alive, but like they don't all like make sure they're eating. I have no clue. What about that thing I just did makes you think I'm an ant expert. I just assume that you would back me up on them. He was not logued about ants for four minutes. Pencers, he has pencers. So there's worker ants, and are you saying is they're like an aunt who's jobs, Like they have a station, like they're the

water cooler and you walk up in the middle. Yeah, I think so. You know what's really funny is I actually think that this information is based off of a video game I played in the early nineties sam Ant? Was it the ants EA game based on Woody Allen's Aunts ants with a Z Either. I think that there was an old game in the early nineties that I played, and I remember that you when you want to feed another aunt, you vomited into their mouth. What game would that be? Or you just

basically went that and like food went into their mouths. What possible game would that be? I don't know. I haven't really thought about it until just now. This game it's like Sonic Bonus level video games again when I was a kid. Maybe like sim Aunt when I was a kid. Makes sense? Yeah, I played this game attack for Doss. Oh it's sim Ant. You vomit into each other's mouths. Okay, wait, Mary, is it sam Ant? Damn it? No? I was trying to mess it

Dan. I was going to Protici for guessing was cool? I like, oh, no, can you mute him? Uh? The power Jake can that look always gets you in real life, makes you let you really you laugh when I do it, I don't see it before. If I say a joke and you don't laugh, I just go okay, yeah, and that contexts that's pretty good. Yeah, um Mary. Even playing anything else besides Dredge, I've been playing Factoria, or some people might call it factor Yo. That's a viny game. Um fucking addicted. It looks that I

thought you were gonna go on what that you just got? You took a long time to get to the tid at the end of it. I did. When people say anything you have that has like Dick or listens Gin in it, You're like laughing before I can finish the sentence. No, lessens just huge. He's superfeeddate anyway. FACTORYA is not a new game, but it's a game that my friend is really into and convinced me to play. You can play with other people on a server, so we decided to play

three people on one server. And it's like Minecraft on steroids because you're not just surviving, you are building unbelievable machines. At one point, I could not believe all the stuff that we had constructed and all the machines and factories that we had built to essentially make science, which is how you can get to the next level in that game. It was an ungodly amount hundreds and hundreds of machines and conveyor belts to acquire materials that we could get something,

and a lot of this. To be honest with you, it's for a certain type of person who really likes optimizing. They really probably like efficiency and learning how to consolidate. It's not really a game I should like, because I don't like when that is the only function that I do. But let me tell you this. There are bugs that attack you, and somebody has to go and bash those rats. And it was me, And essentially I

became the bug basher of the group. And every time I would create these alerts, these walls that would protect us from bugs, and then it would alert me if a bug was attacking us, and I would go out there with like a big bunch of weapons and massacre those bugs. And then I would find out where the bugs were coming from, and I would go to their homes and I would kill the entire nest. And I got really addicted to kind of being the security of our fortress sheriff. I was the sheriff.

So is this do you have direct control over the character here? Because like I'd always seen screenshots Factorio and it looked like it was just like a wunch of conveyor belts and stuff. I didn't realize you could ever like control. There's a person in there, and all those screenshots probably has a person. You probably just didn't notice because it's all fucking conveyor belts, so it's

top down and there are little people running around the whole time. Now, when you're probably seeing those screenshots and a lot of times you're seeing gameplay, you're probably seeing gameplay of these giant machines being constructed. And when you construct these machines, it's not like your little person is like building them. It just appears. As long as you have the materials, the game, you know, magically makes machines and conveyor belts appear to serve your needs. But

the combat is all live action. Eventually, as you're building up all these machines and these parts you can construct cars, your little person goes into a car. I put a gun on my car, and I was like driving around shooting like ants and stuff and was like die and everybody else was like working on conveyor belts. It was totally different experience for the people in this

crew. So let's say you are somebody that like you, you have no interest let's say in the optimization in the building and all that, and you just want to like go out there and do what you were doing. So that's basically what you're doing the whole time, Like there's enough for you to do just in that role. I didn't build shit. They tried to teach that the forest, you're just killing squirrels while we did bash those rats were

building. I was running around. I killed everything. But I was head of security, so I had a very important job because if the bugs get into the into the world, they eat the machines and they ruin all of

your processes. This is a very fine and important setup, which is your harvesting materials from the world, like you're harvesting copper and whatever, iron and would and so once you have all these automated machines and systems, it all harvests and runs and melts all your metals and refines it into materials, and then you can make machines that turn the materials into goods, and so I would basically say I don't have enough bullets to kill these bugs, and they'd

be like, I can make a machine that will harvest all of the iron. I will turn it into bullets, and then I will turn those bullets into mega bullets, and I'll make all these machines and like kind of conveyor belt everything. And I was like, cool, put them in this box, and then like every twenty minutes, I would go to this box. I would get a bunch of bullets, and then I would kill those fucking bugs. My job was head of security to make sure that the bugs didn't

come into the room and disrupt the workflow. If the bugs attack our ability to harvest iron, then the whole thing falls apart. I was very important that I didn't realize I had all that going on like that. That's like on the flip side, if you want to if you just wanted to do the optimization in the building, and all that stuff is there, like you know, like Minecraft allow the mode where there's no creepers, and it's just like, oh, it's like creative mode or whatever. I believe that you

can turn down. However of the bugs are we actually had it on a mode where the bugs were very intense, and I think that that's interesting that the game allows you to do that, because originally, the first time you were to play this game, you should probably play it on a lighter modes that you're not worried about that and you can learn the process of building and

learning an efficiency. But because I was playing with two Seasons players who have played this game a lot, it's a very fascinating gameplay loop as well, which is you're not just building machines. You're building machines to eventually take over like all the resources, and eventually your science gets so good that you build a rocket and you fuck off, Like what a cool ending. But here's the interesting catch that I feel like the game doesn't mark it well enough.

As you're building all these dope machines, all these machines make they are making like smog there, you're making environmental damage because you're bastards, and that environmental damage pisses off the bugs. So when you start the game, you never get attacked. The bugs don't really notice you. As you're building these big machines and you start harness like harvesting all this material. The bugs are getting pissed off and they start to attack you. Later on in this game,

they are coming out of the woodwork. They're coming from the north, they're coming from the southeast, they're coming from the west, and all these different bugs, big bugs, and they evolved too. These bugs also evolved. There's some commentary there. The more you pollute the land, the more you're agitating the natural order of things. Yeah, that's right, but it's on our side. Like unlike those other games where it was like about how we're

ruining the planet, it's about how you destroy a bug land. You harness every material you can, and then you just like fuck off, you like get on a plane. Oh, I see you. Okay, all right, all right, you're kind of telling me on that. I'm telling you it's actually really good. My concern Dan is, I know, I think I know you, and I don't think that you would enjoy playing this game alone, because the idea of like building all these machines is very like draw.

I think you might be wrong about that because like that, I've always been somewhat curious from Afar in seeing screenshots at this game, and I've heard vi Any describe it, and like I do actually really like like organization and efficiency and stuff like that, and like, oh, I can actually skip this step and that step if I just go straight from here to there, like I like, you know, like and it's a totally different type of game, but like Livings, you know, or even like city builders stuff

and everything, like I like being able to find solutions, you know, out of the box and stuff like that, and like that sounds that sounds pretty fun to me. Honestly, I think maybe you'd like playing with other people then, because it's fun. Yeah. I don't know how many people you're allowed to have on a server, but we had three, and we all had very specific jobs. Someone was like an innovative lead, basically a

scientist. Their job was to make as much science as possible, which helped advance technology because when you start, literally you're like melting iron and wood and like hoping that you can just make some nice iron bars. Towards the end you're making cars, you're making oh my god, you make trains and all this. The first time you build a train and you have all these tracks, it's nutso Dan, you're so proud of yourself. So we had we

had one of those. A good example is shit I just realized, I don't think you play this game or like this game deak stranding, but talking about optimizing, I'm not gonna go and hold that tra anything, but like just once you get zip lines and stuff, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh my god. I used to have to like ride a fucking bike all over this ship and it took forever, but now I just right like that feeling of like, oh my god, I've skipped all these

steps. This is so much more streamlined. Like that is one of the more satisfying things I've felt in games recently, and I don't think I play enough games like that for as much as I find joy in that feeling, So like you actually might like Factoria then, because I think I think there's definitely some similarities there with basically taking ten minutes to be able to make one thing and then fast forward and it is a time suck, but like fast

forward eight hours later and all of a sudden, like every time you go to the box, there's just one hundred in there because it's automating everything for you, so it's really easy to make everything. What I really enjoyed was in our trio we had ahead of innovation and technology. We had someone who

was only working on like harvesting and efficiency. Uh oh, I can make a machine that will make all of this automated, and then I will use a conveyor belt system to hand deliver it to you because you're north two hundred miles. And then I was head of security and a bashed fucking bugs. Okay, I want to play this, Dad. Factoria is great. I was surprised. I didn't think I would like it, but because they allowed me to play it the way I wanted to play it, which was,

you know, attack defend. I love tower defense. I love I love just being able to like U feel like I'm I like playing a little bit. And it was really fun making these giant towers and these belts and protecting us from bugs. And every time we had a wall, they would be like Mary, we're being attacked on the north wall, and I was like, I got it, and I would like head over with my car and like hill bugs. I had a fucking blast. I think I played.

I think I'm like twenty two hours in now. It happened really quickly, but man, it's a really really fun game. Okay, awesome. I want to go back to that. I also I also want to I need to play Taryn Nil. I still have not, but I've heard good things Tary Nil is. Okay, we talked about it last time. I do love, you know, making forests, but man, I did not like cleaning up after myself. Yeah, I heard the late game was like a problem for a lot of people. I don't want to clean up after myself.

That's not why I play games. Do you guys have any other games played? I just played More Resident Evil with you. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, what about Mercenaries Mercenaries Mode? Oh yeah, that's one two and uh Dredge actually played. I haven't played enough to like really go super deep on it. You know what game's super fucking cool in twenty twenty three is No Man's Sky. I've been very curious about that. It's holy shit,

that is just nothing like what I thought it was. I played it in twenty nineteen, to be clear, when they did next Okay, that big update, and I've played since launched, and I assume it's. Yeah, you get dropped in and the onboarding is much better your it's survival light elements. At first, they're teaching you how to replenish your life support systems, which it's it's never gonna get bad enough. You just need to find

like oxygen lying around. Um. You go and you gather some supplies, you get in your spaceship, you jet off the first planet, you go to a space station, you upgrade your egzo suit. The game becomes this really kind of engaging loop of going to explore new solar systems. Once you get your warp drive, then your warp drive runs out of fuel, so you've got to go down to certain planets that you've scanned, okay, in order to create plutonium or whatever the fuck it is, and plutonium casing.

I need to go get these elements. But also you get base building stuff really early on, and you can have several houses on several different planets, and you can build warp portals next to each of them, so you don't have to like travel through the stars again. You can buy your own fleet of spaceships that you can send out on convoy missions to bring back supplies. You could build like hydroponics farms on those frigates to continue getting you necessary materials.

But holy shit, just I don't know the planets I've been finding are pretty unreal. It's crazy how the game is obviously like it's infinite, but it manages to still feel pretty personal, Like you'll discover a planet that it'll tell you no one else has ever seen my favorite Yeah really wow. Yeah. So I landed on a few that's like, hey, this one's toxic, and then I get through the atmosphere. Suddenly color starts to fade. On this planet, color doesn't exist, so it's black and white. The

animals are all these like Bronosaurus looking characters. You scan one for some money, but it also tells you like, hey, they survive because they like inhale toxic fumes and expel oxygen, and so it's like, oh, that's how I'm not dying right away. But then I go to another planet that it's like, hey, no one survived, no one's discovered this, and it's all these weird stained glass formations, and I claimed land on it to build a base because I really like the planet. It also had useful resources,

so I named it Cathedral after the stained glass. And then I went to my this copper deposit, there's this whole there's terraforming. You can just create caves. I mind this copper deposit and accidentally blew open a hole to realize that this planet had a massive, like planet wide underground cave network, and ended up going super deep into one. It was all this glowing fun guy and whatnot. And I got to the bottom and I was like,

I kind of like it down here. I'm gonna build a house. I'm gonna put my warp portal down here, and that was like my third house. It was a terrible location in terms of like being near materials, and also you can't land your you can't summon your spaceship down there because you're underground. I could bust out a hole above it, but I kind of just like having it there. There's an elements of role playing and being attached to that planet, but then you go back to the space station you're doing.

You could do like smuggling runs for certain factions. Every once in a while you'll get ambushed and being dog fights. You can buy like on your frigate, you can have a hangar full of like eight different spaceships that you're flying around that are good for one thing or another. One is fast, one is better, has more cargo space. If you're doing it a resource run, holy shit, Like I don't have a fleet of frigates and cruisers yet,

but I want one, and also I haven't yet. You need you need to upgrade your warp drive to be able to travel like four dimensionally or sorry, three dimensionally. Right now, I'm just traveling along one plane a different solar systems, but you can end up going up in the star chart, and from what I've heard, things get really weird at a certain point. But God, just like taking off from a planet, going up through the atmosphere, being in space, they've streamlined so much to travel it's really

fun. I considered going back to it because, like again I haven't played since launch. Now, I everyone hated it to launch. I actually kind of thought it was interesting, like meditative, and I was kind of into it at launch, and I got a code for it when PSVR two came out, and I was like, oh, man, I wonder I'd like

to go back and see where that is. But and I also realized, like, I don't know, I think I'm curious about that game, but I don't know if I want to go back in VR, because like I feel like that's the type of game where I just want to like play late at night for hours and just get kind of lost in it, you know, like I think that might be the way I want to go to it. I tried it in VR for the same reason, and then I was like, Oh, this seg game's cool. I want to see all this

normally to not have a headache for ten minutes. Yeah. Yeah, because it really is still has that meditative quality and it's it's you can you start off like I said, it's like a survival light game. It's almost like Valheim without the bosses because you're going from different biome to different biome and crafting

oat in order to get there. I need to go harvest this. Eventually you can become this like role playing game where you are like in these guilds or if you want to be doing that, or just keep doing this single player meditative thing like it has not gotten old yet. Going to a new solar system and finding a planet that's like, holy shit, I didn't know planets could be devoid of color. That didn't I love that idea of like not every time you land, Just like, what the fuck is this?

Um? Did they did they add multiplayer? Like real multiplayer? Because I know where there was all that confusion. There's there's so I could like see you running around and we could go like build stuff. Oh you can vite. Oh they're straight up co op and you can mind each other. You can help each other, share resource and build stuff and fly with them.

It's great munds fun. Yeah, it's really good. I also I don't I'm sure they've updated the algorithm or whatever it is that creates planets when you're traveling, but um, the base options. Like, right now my focus is basically I like always said I haven't played enough of this, but I

really have. Actually now they think back in it. But right now my my focus has been on getting base upgrades to just make cooler houses but also more useful houses so they actually have plants inside that I can harvest, um bots that can go out and gather stuff. Um. Yeah, I had no idea how in depth the variety of planets gott. I knew it was like infinite, but I always assumed it was like, oh, different color palette, different animals, like no, this one, I land on another

one that's just eerminent fog. And every once in a while I would just come across this random jungle in the middle of this like planet wide fog, and then the jungle. I scanned the plants in the jungle, and it said that the plants themselves were dispelling, like in order to survive, they

were dispelling something to keep the fog away. So then I tore down a couple of those trees, made a clearing and put a house in there again like and then made it like cleared out a little landing pad for my space ship, put the warp portal there. So I have like four warp portals across the galaxy right now, so you can immediately go back there from any space station. I believe there might be an upgrade to a spaceship or a

frigate that you can get to work back. But it still has that meditative quality because a lot of the time you're just fucking mining sodium and oxygen to supply your eggs of suit and whatnot. It's good. I feel like there were like three games that I want to like start playing tonight, and from just this conversation, yeah, it's it's good. No meds. It takes about an hour until you're really free traveling because they're it's still pretty complex.

They're teaching you how to do a lot of stuff, and the UI takes them getting used to It's it's a Destiny esque cursor or Assassin's Creed cursor. You're moving around the screen. Yeah, and once you select an item, you then have to drag it to the slot where you want to use it. But once you get the hang of all that, it's it's meditative.

But it's also just like it's the first time in a while I've just been enjoying exploration for its own sake as opposed I mean, you're still finding some pretty useful stuff on all these planets, but I keep taking these quests. It's like, go take a photo on a toxic planet, or go take a photo on a desert planet. And one desert planet I went to looks like an everlasting gob stopper from space because it's like just desert. But then

it's got these weird obelisks every like ten feet. So I planted, like half of it has been licked and the other half is unniched. Yeah, I had hair stuck to it. Yeah, so good, got Linton goop on it. You just kind of wipe it off on your chest and go back at it. Yeah, I got it. No, man, Sky is rad Um. I haven't tried the smuggling stuff yet, but I might at some point. That's I really think I'm gonna start that up too. That sounds I think. I think no Man Sky and Dredge I think are

my immediate after this podcast. Dude, Dredge is such a winner. Um. What an absolute surprise of a of a game this year. I had no expectation that I would fall in love with that game as much as I did. I'm excited. I feel like I've just been in like a loop

for with the travel and everything. I've kind of just been doing the analog pocket and just like my Fortnite stuff, Like, I haven't really had like a game game that I've been like sin Freseni before, which and it wasn't that long ago, but I need a symptom so holding pattern until Zelda. Yeah, definitely, because I know that's just going to completely take over my leg. Yeah. Do you guys want to do emails? Yeah? Okay? As always, you can write into fires get cast at gmail dot com

for questions, comments, concerns, corrections. I won't read the last ones. I throw them in the trash. Right click delete permanent delete, Get out of here. With your fucking Actually this is all through job. I'm just kidding. Julie fires get cast at gmail dot com questions. We got a couple tonight. This first one is from Tim Dandy. Wait, does it make sense to do no? Mary, Actually makes sense for you to do this one because this Canini related the first one. Yeah from Tim.

Okay, Hey gang, I'm very glad you are all back doing Canini again. Me too, Me too. This is not the email now, I'm just reacting to it. We love doing I love going back to Knini. I get really excited. So this makes you very happy. Okay, I'm now I'm gonna start reading this again. I've been rewatching Mike and Mary stream the original Resident Evil four at game Spot over six years ago, and I'm really enjoying the banter and seeing the differences between the original and the remake.

That's cool. Mary just lost a piece of jerky down her shirt and then ate it shortly after episode fifteen fourteen thirty. What a good time stamp for all those who want to really know, specifically when I lost a piece of jerkey. Girls so embarrassed jerky ovans all the time. Anytime I wear like a v neck or a low cut shirt. I always get something in there and then I find it later. You're always eating food out of here. Hey, if guys can have the flavor savor beard, so can we.

Wouldn't the analog be like if we'd dropped some popcorn under our scrotum or something. No, no, scrotums and boobies are not equal. I don't need the parts. No, no, no, no. Genitals are its own world. You just you just wish you had an equivalent to titties, But you don't get a range A movie rating. It's in the same general ballpark. You know, I don't know. You don't really see peen in movies

like you do see titties. You see titties in PG. Thirteen. Right, if it's hard, if it's like, if it's it's Titanic Titanic, If it's that, it's you can do it, but ours more. Have you guys seen The Deep Fake with Arnold Schwarzenegger as her? God damn it, that's such a tangent. It's like, look at my boobies. Jack, maybe, like, what do you the voice too? Oh dude, it's I watch it maybe daily. He's like, He's like, I expect you get what I want. Look at my boobies, Jack, look at

them anyway, I'll send it to you guys. It's greats go on, okay? If no, no, If Jack was painting her and she dropped some jerky while she was getting painted and picked it up and ate it, it would have the same rating because boobies are not the same as like him showing full scrolls. There's not a lot of scroting movies either, trying to think in a movie we're mortal enemies on this What movie has a scrowed a minute? You guys are having can name a billion of the arguments. Oh,

there is a scrotum in uh Waiting? Oh that's right, yeah, Mike. Is that the one you watched in my basement by yourself? I know you maybe watch the sequel, which is somehow worse. How could you possibly want to watch the sequel to Wait mis visiting? I know I'm not here often, but I need to watch Waiting two. When you're in this dungeon basis wat Rana the chat. It was not me. I sat on a concrete floor like legs crossed, and then he drove the Mario Carmen to

read this email. Yeah, in the spirit of this jerky moment, what's one thing that you cringe about from those old days? And how have you seen your fellow hosts grow over the years. I hope y'all are stoked about having built a great community and maintained cool jobs for so long. Cheers, Tim, Tim, think you that was really cool email? That makes me this like made me smile. Fucking Jedi moment. It's not my favorite, but that was that such a moment. Oh, I'm going to writing too.

Oh man, that's okay. Boy. When I when I cringe about from those old days, um, probably a lot. I don't tend to watch stuff from that era. Really. I'm specifically because the video I did that i'm embarrassed of. Well, it's not like full embarrassment. It's like I feel like watching that it's like reading really old writing. It's like it's just inherently embarrassing, Like, oh my god, I'm so much better than

yes, I think. Yeah, if I look at a video from like twenty ten or something from Gaming four World, just be like I had no idea how the fuck to talk and just be natural on camera. Just I feel sort of like, hello, welcome, to replay and just not even that I'm just monotone and like I just didn't know what the fuck I was doing, though not really cringing, but just like, oh fuck, I was clueless. I wonder if it still exists before I worked at game Spot.

I'm actually very proud of a lot of my Game Spot stuff, even the embarrassing stuff. I think is funny, and I look back very fondly. I remember doing a lot of news with Jake actually, who edits the podcast. So anytime the person who hosted our news traditionally, which would either be Chris Waters or Jess McDonald if they were sick or they were out unexpectedly, I filled in for the news, and Jake and I would always team

up and do the news together. And every time we did it, we did something really fucking dumb, and we did it possibly because we were just like Wiley and maybe because we were bored. But if we did the news, we did something so wacky because it was funnier to us. And so we came up with all these really funny ideas, and you'd think if I look back on them that I would be like, oh my gosh, these are so bad and are like ideas were so stupid. But I love every

one of those videos. I have a reel, Oh my gosh, like

so wild. I would say the equivalent of Mike, You're about the author is like maybe one of my old old videos that I used to make, because I made a lot of videos before I worked at game Spot, and one of them I made a fake show called Indie Pick where I talk about indie games and pretend to be a host so that I could send it to game Spot and be like I can host and real that you made intended to work in games media so that I could get the job, and I don't.

That is embarrassing. Ben was not going to fact check you at game Spot. I know, but I didn't know that, and I, um, I'm actually I like at that time, I man, I was hungry. I would do anything for that job, and so I I invented reels. I like, I did odd jobs I could put it on my resume. I did everything that I could to be like, I'm the perfect employee for you game Spot. Like I it was all manufactured. None of that is an accident or luck. I mean, there is always luck in getting

a job. But what I'm saying is is like it was calculated how much. I basically was like, yeah, check out this reel I made of you know when I covered games in Australia, and it's like I just invented that show. I just made things up. It's like a Rob Handley's and the Weatherman. That's right. Yeah, that's a really good example. Or you just like you're kind of getting by, but you do use those things. Rob was playing this Weatherman and then all of a sudden he's he just

starts like cheering and shooting fire out of his hands. It's really good Rob Handley clip. Yeah. I probably if I were to watch more of my old stuff, I would find more stuff that I was embarrassed. But like I think a lot of old stuff I did was funny. There is an old video, Mike, what is it? Me and you were in a game Informer record my Heart a game inform searching? Is it the you draw tablet? But you look like you're a literal child in it? Uh?

It came up recently, What the fuck would you have been on? We had you look on? We talking about when I was like clearly miserable to be on the video. Maybe do you remember what why we would have had you? I would have been very early we you days? Yeah? Fuck? What the fuck was that? You're on the couch, we're in the meeting room. Probably zombie or zombie you? Zombie you? Why would we have been at cams for that? I don't know, ah, man, I wish I could find it. Um, I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, that's weird to think about, because god, I was twenty years old. Yeah yeah, fuck, I yeah, I can't think of but sorry, UM, I think the other half of this is also not just what we're embarrassed about, but um, how have you seen fellow hosts grow? And I've absolutely seen people expand and grow, And I think someone

that I think really grew a lot was Abby. I think that she's phenomenally entertaining and she was always funny, but I think she learned a great deal at her time, and I always loved watching her flourish in LA now and I like seeing where she's going to go with her career. But it's really cool to see that fundamental knowledge of like how to produce a show and how to construct something four games with her background. I think she's a fascinating person.

Yeah, totally agreed. Who else has grown is that it? She's the only one bunch of losers other than that hell Hanson boy, Howdy Hanson went from like when he was the video guy Game Informer. I found him

fascinating. I was immediately really good friends with him, and he had such interesting personality and I was like, we gotta get you on the ship that you you say when we're just at the bar or a party or something like that, like you're fascinating to talking about this stuff, and man, I want to be hoss, be in the backgrounds, just edit the stuff all does. He never wanted to be on it. And occasionally I'd pull him

onto stuff. I pulled him unto like a play through of Yoshi's Island and stuff and kind of got him like a little more comfortable with that stuff. And now he's mister look at me. Here's mister hey, it's my show, The Men Max Show is starring Ben Hanson. Hey, Razzle Dazzle, He's you know, razzle dazzle. He's listening right now and he says all those he's but no, he is so obviously comfortable in that role. And after seeing him like on those cover story trips where you know, I didn't

know what the fuck to ask any game developer about anything. I could review games all day long, but like I didn't know what to ask developers. Hanson would be there. Just ask he if you gave him five hours, he would fill every one of those hours with questions for developers, and like fascinating questions that you could tell he was really interested in. And it's like, why not harness that for why don't you do this? Why don't you

interview people? Why don't you host something? And now to see what he's doing and like killing it like they're they're killing it at Men Max, and he is fronting the thing. I think he's easily the first person that comes to mind as far as that goes. Yeah, I don't know him as well as you do, but I've liked watching Midmax as a whole thing. Grow. Yeah, he comes up with amazing ideas too, Like he really does like and I like the fact that he'll do out of the box stuff

where it doesn't even have anything to do with video games. And yeah, he's he's absolutely killing it, he really is. I like deep dives, or I like the doing a thing deep dive with them. I did that Mario six four one with that with him and that was really fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great. Okay, thank you, Tim, appreciate. I feelure just brokfe by. He's a psychopath. What a weirdo. He's kind of crazy. I mean both can be true, you know. All right? Uh, Dan, you want to read this one.

It's not as long as it looks, just like a block of text. Yes, from rich in Pennsylvania. Yeah, hey guys, this question is for everyone, but it involves dance, so I guess he can read it. But a little background about it. About a year ago, I was watching Dan stream Battledome hell Yeah on Twitch shout out to tell my battledome freaks that the email said that he ended up rating a small random channel because they were playing Mario Sunshine. I followed the raid, ended up sticking around for

the whole thing, then kept tuning in. I got to know the people on the channel. I like small channels because you can actually talk with people without getting lost in a sea of chat. They ended up being super cool. Fast forward a year and now we talk on discord pretty much daily, played games together on the regular, and I consider them to be good friends, not in like a weird one way para social way like genuine friends.

Plus they convinced me to stream on Twitch myself. I just hit affiliate tonight. Congratulations. So my question is, has there ever been a seemingly small, random event in your life that ended up having a big impact on you going forward, maybe a chance encounter leading to a job opportunity or something. Thanks for all you do. Love the podcast that's Rich in Pennsylvania. Wow, that's a really good story. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah,

yeah, no, no, I'll go for it. Mine is such a random little thing that I think could have had huge ramifications going forward. I was in college and I needed the job. I was living in the dorms and it was for like raising money for the KU, just the school for KU. And they had like a like a cattle call type not audition,

but what do they call it? An interview process? I guess we're like, Hey, a bunch of students are going to come over and we're gonna have a cattle call interview thing and at the end of the weekend or whatever, we'll see who gets the job doing cold calls or whatever. And I started walking over to this thing. It was at like seven o'clock at night, and it was like across one of the main streets, and I was like, it was snowing, and I was like, I'd rather just

go back and hang up my friends and play double Dash or something. And I turned around at one point to turn back to the dorms and not go to this thing. And I was like, nah, we'll see, maybe those would be a cool job. I don't know, let's let's walk over there. So I decided to go. Wound up getting the job. Wound up like most of like my social circle for like the remainder of college, and this was just like sophomore year was all kind of based around this job.

And it was about a year into that job a friend of mine, Charlie, was looking through the local paper and he knew I was obsessed with games. I really wanted to write reviews for games and stuff. And he's like, oh, damn, look at this, and he pointed to like there was like a wanted thing in the paper of like, oh, do you know video games? Do you want to review video games for the Lawrence

Turnal World, you know, send in some samples here. And it's like holy shit, and got a warad just come out, the first one, and so I wrote up the sample long story short that led to the whole thing of me writing reviews, going to E three, you know, the game and former stuff. So like if I had actually turned around and been like, I don't want to go to that interview, I who the fuck knows what happens, you know, and that seemingly just like add snowy,

I want to go back to the dorm. Like if I had done that, who knows, who fucking knows? None of this ship could have happened. Wouldn't know beyonda wouldn't have had my jobs, wouldn't know you guys, just that one little tiny fucking thing, you know. So yeah, I think about that one a lot. Yeah, mine would have been my career wise, it was. I don't I don't know what it would have what the moment was, but I definitely remember telling you i'd never seen Terminator two,

and that's when you actually started like talking to me way more. I just started yelling loudly. Since then, you've just been screaming at me every day of our life. Yeah, Mary, it would have been a game spot. I remember there was one day when I kind of overstepped because I was had just moved to San Francisco and I was maybe a week and a half, two weeks into working there. On the way out, I stopped by Rob Handley's desk, and He'll be the first to say it, like

he's literally coming to stay here at my place in like two weeks. We're good friends now. At the time, I barely knew him though, so I was like, oh, I know, I made friends a game inform fairly and I was super young, so like a week and a half in a game spot on the way out, and like I just stopped by to chat to Rob and kind of like him and Josh were sitting near each other, so like cool, yeah, I mean, like if if you guys

end up doing anything, just let me know. And on the way out, and then I think Rob took it as like, who the fuck is this guy? He's trying to encroach on our fun? Yeah yeah, and now flashboarded now and I'm like the cool one of the group. Sure, so it's kind of funny. Let me bring you back down to earth. Here. I found the video. It is the test Chamber of Zombie You. I'm not on it, but Mary if you want to go to thirty three seconds on it to see Mike Mhardy, adult gaming professional looking like a

literal child. We pulled out a daycare to be on a video. Send it for you, the fire Escape. I still look kind of like a No, I look like an adult now in this fucking video. This is unreal. Yeah, go too. So anyone at home search test Chamber Game Informer Zombie you and then what's the time frame. It's like thirty two, thirty two seconds or something. It cuts to mahardy. Oh my god,

I went to the Oh I still have it. Oh my god, you're so cute, little child, this tiny little boy talking about the faborite video game. God, he's a fetus. Oh my god. I don't even look this like my skull has changed. You look like a different person. Has your falls not dropped when this was shot? Absolutely not. I wasn't old enough to drink legally. No, it didn't stop me. Um no to get sappy though. Two years ago, I came home after like my sixth annoying date in a row. Not in a row, not days in

a row, but like six people I had went on dates. So I was like, oh, this sucks, and I was like, I'm gonna delete Bumble. It's really annoying. I hate it. I didn't hate it. I was like, I like being single, it's fun, and I like being solo. Uh. So I went into Bumble and then I was like, oh my god, I never responded this message from this girl named Amanda, so I said, and she was super cool. She said, hey, what's up cat dad and a few other things. I was like,

She's like, are those are cats? I was like, yes, those are my cats. It's not my frenchie. I use Simone as my like front photo. It's all connected. I'm the reason you're getting married. And then we want on a date a few days later, March nineteenth, twenty one. And then we wanted to date the next day, and then we spent well, now we lived together and we're getting married, but we spent like four or five days together every week. And I almost just like,

straight up the lead of the app. Wow, yeah that story at the wedding. Wheneficiate it's on the web because it's because of Simon. Yes, Semon, that was my like bio. It's like the cats are mine, that dog is not. Can Simone be the flower girl. Oh my god, Yeah, we can kill that just farting down the aisle. Yeah, um, I think for farting down the aisle, I can, though, if you want it's your wedding, I'll do it, Mike, if I'm up there, like doing the efficient thing while you're both there and I

just tear asked, just loud enough for you two to hear. Would you be able to like no, sell it like not? No. I would lose my I would jump into the harbor, laughing, lose my mind. The powers give me a microphone pretty close to you. Yeah, I'll grab it. I'll just go back there and do that. And rolling in her chair so uncomfortable. There's a lot of times where I feel like I did

something seemingly innocuous at the time that ended up having really awesome results. I think very similarly too, Rich Twitch has a lot of those moments where you think you're doing something small and then it ends up being really meaningful and kind

of alters your life. And I am obviously biased, but I have to say that this story is very meaningful to me because I think it's a part of the reason why I I really believe in twitch as a service, because I think what ends up happening is is you go there for entertainment and then you maybe sometimes find more and you find deep, meaningful connections in people or the experiences that you have, and I do believe that they can be life altering. When we worked at game Spot, I remember Eric Tay, who

still works at game Spot. He was telling me about the site called Twitch and how crazy and awesome it was, and he was like, it's live, like everything that's happening, it's like all live, and it's just a crazy place. You have to see it. And so Eric Tay like convinced me, like, check out Twitch for the first time and understand a little bit more about it. And I knew some friends in the industry that were going live once a week each so that it wasn't overcommitted, and to me,

that was enough that it didn't scare me. I think, for whatever reason, sometimes starting your own channel is really scary. What if no one watches me and I'm live to no one that's you know, that scared me. But going live on a channel that had maybe like six other women on it, it was like, oh cool, somebody will be on there because there's all these other people that are doing it and they're cool. So I went live for the very first time on somebody else's channel on a shared group

channel, and I did a show called Indie Discovery. I think I forget actually what it was called, but it was like probably Indie Discovery or Indie whatever, and I played an indie game every week. And that actually resulted in me falling in love with streaming and starting my own streaming channel, and that caused me to think a lot more deeply about my relationship with streaming,

and I got really interested in learning how to technical direct. A very small but important caveat to that is that Vinnie asked me to help with the Big Live Live show and I said, I don't know how to, but I'm

really interested in learning how to technical direct. And Vinnie showed me how to use my very first switching board, and it was a very simplified version of a switchboard, but I learned how to switch from the Big Live Live show, and then from that, another friend of mine who worked at game Spot named Shaw told me he would teach me how to use a TriCaster, which is a very complicated piece of hardware, and I learned how to use a

TriCaster from that information and like essentially and eventually switching a lot of our live shows at game Spot. I used that education to get to Twitch, and so when Twitch started looking for people, they were looking for hybrids. I believe this fundamentally to my core, and I'll say this to anyone. What was really valuable to a lot of companies is if you can do multiple things, not just right, but beyond camera or maybe even like you know,

technically direct. And I had all of those skills. So I think what helped me in my career was picking up technical director from Vinnie and Josh and picking up all streaming from my friends. And I think all these different components is what led to my career. I think it's what led to the life that I live that I love so much. So I think this is a really cool story. Rich Like I'm I'm really glad that you found someone from

a raid. That's literally why raids exist on Twitch is so that you can have an experience like this, and I want to, like, I want to like screen shot it and like show it some like my company, because I think it's really important to remember that the things that we create at Twitch

they're not just for fun. I think they make meaningful relationships. And I can't tell you how many people I've met that got married because a twitch, or met their best friend on twitch, or change their career because a twitch. And I think that's really cool. And now I'm gonna stop talking because

it's obvious that I work there and I really like it. No, I do not work there, but I will also say that, like what you're saying at raids, I feel very strongly and like that's one of my favorite things when I'm ending a stream is like, you know, how easy is it to just look up like okay, I'll look up Mario Party or Mario Sunschin or just a game or whatever game I was just streaming and find I always like to find someone that has like three, four or five view ors,

twelve view or something like that, where it's like, Okay, they're clearly like they've got a little bit of traction here. They got some people watching, but what if they had five six hundred more people watching? And like it's also great that my community is always very very cool and very welcoming and polite and all that stuff. So it's like you see it happen where people are just like, oh my god, oh wait, huge is that? How many people just came in? And then everyone's really nice and then

you see them kind of calm down. They're like, oh my god, this is crazy, this is awesome, and like people will subscribe, people will come back, and I found a lot of people who are doing really fucking cool things on Twitch. Two very very small audiences, and I love like it's it's a couple of clicks, it's a command in the chat, and then all of a sudden, it's like, here, here's a thing that will help you get to affiliate or help you find an audience. Like

that is awesome. It really is. Yeah, I think it. It is. They're small things that can be really meaningful to people, and I think that's important. Right. It's a small, seemingly innocuous thing, and then all of a sudden you found your new favorite person or you found a really good friend. So um, I think that's a great story, and I really appreciate you sharing it with me. So thank you, Thank you

very much. Rich, appreciate it. Those are emails, thank you everybody who wrote it in Rich, Thanks folks, Rich and sorry and Tim as usual. Like I mentioned fire skip past at gmail dot com. That's our show. That's episode fifty two three. I never I want to look at the fucking calendar. When can we talk about Zelda? When's the episode? How many episodes until we can talk about Zelda? It's okay, So this one goes up on the twenty fourth, The next one will go up on

the eighth. The game comes out the thirteenth, twelve twelve, okay, okay, so that's twenty second. We will have had some good time with it. I mean that whole fucking weekend of the twelve. I'm definitely planning it, okay, all right, hell yeah, I'm We're a few episodes away. Yeah, it's gonna happen. Looking forward to it, Dan work. What can people do on Spotify in the meantime, Let's click a couple of buttons, not really buttons, it's your phone. Just put put your

sweaty, gross flesh on your phone screen. I don't know if it's sweaty or grows. I don't know. You look, you probably have very nice fingers. I don't know, but just just press your your grubby little paw on well. I don't know, I don't know if your hands grubby, I don't know what grubby means. I don't know why I'm insulting you when I'm trying to ask you to do a nice thing. Here, take your well manicured, perfectly clean, just wonderful to look at, wonderful to the

touch, I'm sure, and just press it against your nice phone. There on the five stars on Spotify and that's all you got to do. It's a very nice thing, thank you. But if they want to give us four stars? What was the name of our podcast? The kind of funny game cast and sunny other aliases. There's min Max. It's the besties min Max. Definitely. Yeah, no good stuff there, yeah yeah, Mary

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fire escape Mama. Yeah, okay, here here's the deal. Okay, I if you get a banana hammock made or a speedo, I will sell all and people and people buy. We sell thirty of them. I'll wear it to the pier one day in my backyard. How about this? Uh? We use we use fourth Wall. Correct, we use fourth Wall. We also have Merch on Bonfire. They're both legit, but fourth Wall is the one that has more items. Fourth Wall has fanny packs, so if that counts. Oh no, that's I'm just naked but wearing a fanny pack.

Calendar. Fanny packs are in, are they? Oh they're outside of our business. People wear them a lot. Really, let me see. I bet you they have more stuff. Um since the last time I did a fourth Wall review. So why don't I check out the new items from fourth Wall and see if I can find like a new item drop because I think it'd be nice to be like it's summer, summertime. Here's a thong, fire fire skate merch dot com. And also, you want to go

support us on Patreon. You want to unlock our ad free episodes and you or and or the video episodes that fire escape cast dot com. Go check those out. That's our episode, Dan, what you have going on? A fire Escape song? I would, I guess for novelties for my own be a funny thing now own just objectively, Um, Mike guy, I am. I got the giant bomb dot com. We've been doing a lot

of really fun stuff over there lately. She should have a bunch of travelog stuff from the California Trips, Superintendent Land, WrestleMania, stuff like that going on. Did some live stuff dream Haack playing four Swords Adventures through the Magic of the Internet. That has been very fun to It's this held the game that no one could play because you have to have a bunch of game Boy advances and shit. So yeah, that Mike Mnadi's playing RoboCop for Xbox.

That's hilarious. So a lot of good stuff going on Giant Bomb right now. And then my twitch is dan Rykert and doing a lot of fun stuff there from late night Friday streams. So follow me there, Mary, what about you usual twitch? I'm on there. I stream every Monday, streaming lots of indie games as per the USU and that's it. You can find me in m E. R Y kish on all the stuff I post on Instagram about my weird travels to see my sister and other places. We'll be

doing a lot of traveling, uh for twitch coming up. Actually, So next week I'm going to Saint Jude. I'm really excited about that. I'll be touring the facility and learning about, um, you know, all the stuff that they do to heal children, which I think is really cool. Where um, isn't it? It's in the uh damn it? Uh? I should know this because I'm flying there next week. It's um uh no, no, no, no, it's not New York. It's in a state. Yeah, okay, but come back to me. It's no Nona.

We're gonna wait on this. Um. They have good barbecue, but it's not in North Carolina. Its down Texas. It could be South Carolina, Memphis, it's Memphis, Tennessee. I'm so glad that you got that out of nothing, nothing, nothingecue. We just name every state. It's my least of my barbecue plays, but it's still goods weird get it. Tour Saint Jude, and I'm really excited about it. So if you're interested in learning more about what Saint Jude does for the kids and how amazing they

are join me getting off of the airpie. But I don't know wo I don't know. I should know where I am. My dad would be so disappointed in me. He says that to me all the time. Anytime I'm traveling for Worke'll be like, He'll be like what hotel are you staying in? And like what city? And I'll be like, I don't know, and he'll be like, how do you live? And I'll be like, I don't know. I just look it up like on an app, like when I'm on my way, like my phone tells me where to go.

I don't really think about it. My dad like ten days before a flight will be have you check the status your flight? Yeah? My parents are crazy about that. My mom will be like, you have to check in. It's twenty four hours, and I'm like, it'll be okay. I can check in, like eight hours before my flights will be just check in right now, it's twenty four hours. Were free flight? Have you seen the weather weather? I'm monitoring the storm. This cold friends coming in and

my messo the engines. No, it's fine, that's fine. People are crazy old people, all right, let's spend an episode fifty three. We'll be back in two weeks. Who on it? Dan said maybe eight, oh, we could do a little sinker to Mayo. Maybe there we go. That'll be that'll be fun. We listen some tootskis. Okay, everybody, thanks for joining. We'll be back two weeks. Who appreciate it? Bye Bye st