Fire Escape Cast #47

Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike. It's Monday. Is it February yet? I got a January thirtieth, So tomorrow is January thirty first, and then Wednesday, February first? Is it's episode forty seven. That's Dan. Hi, Hello, that's Mary. You sound like my parents when they send me a voicemail. My parents are the last people on earth that when they call and I do not answer, they will put in a voicemail and they will say, hey, Mary, it

is Tuesday, seven pm. This is your mom trying to call you, and I'm not able to get ahold of you. Give me a call back when you get this. Yeah, And they give me all the information that the phone gives me. Do they give they text? Are they texters? They are becoming better texters, But their preferred method of delivery is telling me

the information of the date and the time on my voicemail. That tells you all that, yeah, you know what I need to They could just hang up and you would know who it was and when they called, and that you should get back to them. They want me to know that it is I think they like to look at their watch when they do it. It is uh seven pm Thursday. We're just trying to get a hold and then they'll tell me stuff that I know. Right, I was just calling you

to catch up. You weren't available. Give me a callback. These are all things that I missed. Call tells me crocod Crocodiles have shorter snouts than alligators. But the teeth there's two rows and then yeah, but it's about eight fifteen now, Um, just wondering when you're gonna call me back, factory. Did you know there are Did you know there are fifteen cities in China with populations over five million? Are your parents a page of day calendar?

Just a little trivia fact. I love page of day calendars. I'm a big mark for the smarlways at the fireside ones. In my teenage years, I had sports illustrated swimsuit ones. I had joke ones. Yeah I've gone through it. Had a Garfield one back in the day. But yeah, they don't give me except the Yeah, it'd be cool if they gave me a little factoids. You know, the Burge Khalifa, tallest building in

the world. Call me back. We had a coach in in wads class in high school that had a page of day vocab calendar, and every day he tried to like shoehorn the word of the day in and it was just so goddamn obvious, where it's just like, all right, this big dumb ass, there's no way he was saying this word with more than three syllables, and he's not using it right, he's not pronouncing it right. That deadlift was a tokthinus bronic. Oh nice. Those push ups were sacra sanked.

Actually, I would probably say that if a Jim Bro said that to me, I'd be fucking amped and do another fifty. You're accused me of saying slang. I've talked last time about how I'm not cool enough to do slang. I described one of my punch out runs is I had a really clutch like round one win on Don Flanco two is clutch slang. Yeah, I would say that's like young millen or that's like millennial slang for sure.

Wait, no, I feel like I always heard that from like nineties baseball, being like, oh, jip Or Jones is a real clutch pitcher. No, no, no, no, clutch pitt in baseball is an actual like that's like a lingo for baseball, But the way that millennials started using it was like that's clutch, like good save, or like, oh that's awesome, you really came through with that gatorway when I'm hungover, that's clutch, Like oh, I wasn't trying. Yeah, literally speaking, literally speaking

in baseball, it means exactly what it sounds like. But baseball they use it as an actually clutch, clutch hitter, that was a clutch, you know whatever. And for the record, that's the that's how I'm using it, that's the context. I'm not trying to be a cool millennial. I'm

trying to use it as an old baseball term. Yeah, because then people were also saying that you say, like shoot and mark and that's the industry karni shit lingo, that's fucking I guess technical back like nineteen twenties carnivals. This is not cool kids stuff. Yeh, shoot and work in kabe.

I would take industry talk. Technically, lingo jargon could like be seen as a form of slang within a specific community, but I still wouldn't consider them like worldwide slang in the way that slang And I think like this is what the kids today are saying yeah, and I'm never going to do that. I'll use my industry terms, I'll use my old baseball terms, but I'm not going to say anything that the hip kids and the millennials. Wait,

millennials aren't hip kids anymore. I'm a millennial whatever today. I think most of our listeners are millennials too. Listeners. I wonder, we're going around the clock again, and now we're at jen A. You're double A, double A then double B. Yeah, we're on the same page. Wait, I wonder if we have any gen Z. What is jen Z? They're like, they're like young twenties, mid twenties. And the kids today, aren't they they're college ish? Yeah, yeah, because one baby,

there's one. There's one under gen Z that's like in high school. I believe what are they? I don't know. Supposedly this is these are all just like marketing things that are made up to sell shit and to blame people in news articles. It makes yes, it makes thing. It's the millennials. We know, that's no it is. I've never liked my generation. I've always preferred older people. When I was a kid, I always associated

with old folks. You've ever talked to people in class or anything, because they all listened to the hip music of the early nineties, and I was listening to my old stuff. Like I never liked you. You two folks are fine, but yeah, you know, thank you. Maybe you're like a combo. You're a moomer. You're a half millennial, half boomer. I don't think any part of me is young. It wouldn't gen there's a generation body of an old aged millennial, but the soul and rugged anger of

a boomer. I go to physical therapy three times a week. I got nothing young about me, speaking of I'm very curious. You told Mary and I last Friday, or actually, like I don't know, last Friday, before this recording, that I'm going off the grid. I won't be able

to talk until Sunday evening. Uh talk to you then, And alarm bells went off in my head because that's a very mysterious thing to say before you get You said I'm going off the grid specifically, like I can I read it out loud if I find it anyway, continue and then I'll read it well if I can find it. Yeah, So here's why I was off

the grid and unreachable last weekend. Nothing crazy here, but you know, I'm i ever, never ending quest to just remove myself from the Internet and you know, the modern just bullshit of the Internet and all that stuff and

social media. I read a lot of books about like digital digital minimalism and stuff like that, and like just you know, ways to come back way and what this shit's doing to our brains and we're the first to grow up the Internet and we're all fucking we don't have attention spans and blah blah blah. So as I've read, I've probably read ten plus books about like specifically this topic. I try to read anything recently written about this topic. Um,

a name kept coming up, and it was Henry David Throw. Yes, go on, I know who he is. Waiting for dramatic effects. No, I was just laughing at Mike, laughing because well it's it. That's like, yeah, I knew he wouldn't expect Thorrow to come up, and that that's why I was gone left Throw and Ralph Henry, Yeah, I've heard of both of these very famous writers and thinkers and philosophers. Did not really until I started reading all these books about like, hey, fuck

the Internet. Um, and they keep bringing up Walden Pond. Yes, okay, yeah, a philosophy course. Oh okay, all right. So for the listeners who maybe you don't know, I guess, I guess he's famous. But if you don't know, he like in the eighteen hundreds, when like factories and shit and industrialization or whatever was happening, he was like, dah, that's probably unhealthy. I'm gonna move out to the fucking woods

for a couple of years. And so he moved out to a pond and he built a cabin, and he just fucking like he didn't like ruugh it. He was going into town in Concord, Massachusetts, and he was doing all this other stuff and everything. He had visitors and all that shit. He just wanted to step away from the ever busying world around him. In

the eighteen hundreds, he started valid for our listeners exactly. Yes, So he did it for two years and just kind of lived in a cabin and wrote a book called Walden about he's talking about looking at the ice and fucking like how to build a cabin and how much money you need to survive for a year and stuff like that, and just really like boiling life down to the essentials and all that stuff, and you know, just I don't finding himself whatever now. And every time I read about this, I'm like,

man, that sounds fascinating, that sounds that what a cool idea. I liked that, and so I took inspiration from that. I booked a cabin in the Catskills and I went solo. I bought Walden, and I bought a collection of Ralph Waldo Emerson essays. I left all my electronics at home. I made sure I picked a cabin that did not have there's no TV, there's no anything. And I brought my phone for GPS and emergencies and music, and I just went up there and I spent a whole weekend by

myself. I fucking made a fire and just stared at it. It turns out you just stared at a fire and it's fire, looks cool as hell, and listened to you know, like it was. I got a bottle of wine. I fucking read Walden. It was great, amazing. I fucking loved it. But it was so interesting too, because like I brought a puzzle, like a thousand piece of puzzle, and I was putting that together on the floor of a cabin and stuff by myself. It was just

it was fun as hell. And one thing I did do and I asked bon because this was antithetical to kind of what I was trying to do. I had a friend who lived up in New Pault's, New York, which is kind of not too far from it. I was, I don't get to see him often I worked with them, or a good friend of mine Alex, and uh. I was like, well, I'd love to see him while'm up there. I don't get to see him very often. And you know it's I figured, well, the point was to unplug. It

wasn't to not talk to human beings. And even like the Row, you know, met with people and stuff. So I was like, okay, well I will use my phone to call an uber to New Pauls and I'll meet up with him. But I called the uber at the second I get it. First of all, I had to make that I was staying on like this giant farm and I had to make this like uber come down this long farm road. And I seemed like a fucking serial killer, Like it

was just completely dark, just pitch black. He's going down like an unpaved like gravel road. And I'm just like waving a light for him to see it. I'm sure I look completely insane. But so the second I got in the uber, I turned off the phone entirely. It's like, all right, that's it. I called the uber. I won't turn on my phone again and tell if I need to get a ride home, you know. And so he takes me there, but the guy will get the New

Pauls. And the guy can't find the restaurant or the bar that we're going to, and so I was like, I'll find it. I get out, and I'm like, oh fuck. I would normally just I reached for my phone to like Google Maps and walked in and I was like, wait, no, I gotta stick to my guns here. So I'm just in New Pauls. I've never been there before. By stars to termining what North

based on the constellation leaves yeah out And so I'm walking around. I don't see this fucking place anywhere, and I just like stop a girl on the street and I'm just like, hey, do you know where this bar is? And she's like, oh, yeah, it's down there. It's past SuDS or snugs or something. I was like, I don't know what the fuck that is? But I'm not gonna bug her, and so I start walking in the direction, still can't find the place, not gonna pull out

my phone. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna walk into a liquor store here, and I'm gonna like, where's this place? That? Like, it just felt like such an old thing to do. I've never had to like stop into places or stop people in the street and ask about where something

is eventually found it and everything. But like, you don't really realize how often we use I mean, obviously we use our phones a lot, but it's like, Okay, the food was on a menu, but the drink menu was a QR code thing, and so then it's like, well, fuck now, if I'm doing this thing, I gotta be the annoying friend who it's like, Alex, can I can I see your phone after you're done? And I want to pull my thing out. It's just like, it's kind of crazy how much you have to use that. I stuck my

guns. He gave me a ride back to the farm and everything, but yeah, I just fucking hung out there. I had a night where I was like, okay, I bought a bottle of wine. I'm just gonna kill this bottle of wine and read in bed all night, and it was like, this is the most middle aged dad fucking night ever where I started out a fire for like an hour drinking and then I laid in bed with Walden and I poured my first glass of wine and I put on Miles Davis

What this is? They? Did you wine? And Miles Davis reading Walden in bed? Did you get a did you get a sleeve tattoo as well? Are you just trying to become me? Oh? Oh yes, I was thinking of this entire time, because it's like I didn't give you any indication of what I was doing. Yeah, I had. It wasn cling that it might be something like that. Okay, yeah, after recent news and everything. Sure, sure, Yeah, well actually I booked it a few weeks ago and then yeah, turned out to be really four two at

a time in because stuff happened like the day before. We're yeah, let's get away from the I didn't see any of the aftermath. It could be really good for you. I we did something similar are right before the last presidential election. Oh yeah, and I actually think we both we kind of just like mentally were like I'm gonna not wanna like be around people or look at the internet. And so we booked the tiny house like in the middle of nowhere and kind of just like got away. Um. I had a

similar getaway as well. My mother invited me to her retirement community in Florida for the week, and I spent my last week in the Villages. Have you guys ever heard of the villages? Jerry's parents live in Seinfeld. Compare it to that. It's a bit crazier than that, because the concept of the villages is a community where you have to be fifty five to have a house, and it has like a fob so that people who come and go in the villages are all fifty five or up. The median age is seventy

two. And your house comes with like fees that allow you to partake in all of these community events that happen every day. It's like camp but for old people, and you could go do water aerobics, or it comes with all the golf you'd ever want to play, and there's like a bunch of different golf places to play at, and there's put putt and there's game. I went to the gaming rooms. It was really funny. Yeah, there was one. Uh there was a gaming center had you know, the electronic

basketball, like an arcade basketball. Uh, it had a foosball, it had um oh, I don't forget what these are called, but it's got those little pucks and sam and you slut shuffle board shod yeah, table shuffleboard. They had that too in a different place. You know, all the classic old people stuff. Oh, and they had arcade machines that just had preloaded like three hundred old school games on them. So I played like you know, Galagha. Of course I played Frogger, got my name on the

board on Frogger, as you do. And uh, I basically hung out with these people. I was allowed to visit, but you are not allowed, Like you couldn't own a place there even if you wanted to. And then every night at the town Square they would have a band play and all these like older people would come out and get their little two for one beer wine from the special and then they would dance to this old school band. It's kind of like they call it Disney for a like for old people,

it's essentially Disney World, but it's only like for retired people. That sounds awesome, Like honestly, like that sounds like a great way to spend your Joe. Look, I went in there laughing about it, because you do research on it, you'll find all these like really funny facts. Right, it has the highest is very high std rate because all these old people are

fucking yeah, and everybody's like super old. So like as you can imagine, like it's just a very strange environment to be walking around and everybody's like seventy oh, and I'm sure there's a lot of widows and widowers and they're just a lot oh boy, yeah, you know, like you know, pregnancy isn't an issue at that point, so everyone's just going for it. Right. Then ask a stupid question, yeah, oh god, is this

about menopause? I think I think I know the answer to this for the record, but I went into my head is like, I know it's dangerous to have kids over like thirty four or whatever, but like, can you could like an eighty year old lady get pregnant? It's just super dangerous. I think it's extremely unlikely because you are set with a certain amount of eggs. Oh right, and you run out and okay, um, while there's

like recorded precedence of like forty five year old women having babies. I think even like up to like fifty, and if you freeze your eggs, right, like I could freeze my eggs and then have them implanted in me, that would possibly even have me go into it later. At the point of like fifty, you are pushing your body. Um, you know, science can only go so far. I think if it was seventy, right,

that doctor would have to be a pro. So they're just not using protection because they're not going to get anyone pregnant, but they're getting there's definitely no eggs left at that point. Yeah, Like most people go through menopause way before that, so I don't think so you guys probably got the old the old v v oh yeah yeah yeah, I think a lot of them. This is old school, right, Like that's probably before a lot of men

get vasected me as you should. Um, but like especially us, especially especially if you're not gonna, like if you don't want children, because it's so much less invasive on you than it is on the on the woman, Like getting your tubes tied is like really difficult and hard on like a woman's body. You don't even get put under for it. That's the park concerns me. Yeah, well they just my friend had it done and he said that they numb you. You don't feel it, and then you sore for

like two days. Yeah, two by four of the head knocked me silly, you know, just fucking knock me out. In what kind of hospital do you go to the right one? Hello, I'm the anesthesiologist. To be unconscious for anything medical, anything I don't just medical is done. We're talking about the rehabilitation. So the procedure is done for me. But you're

growing has been sure cooked. I've surely told the story about my dad after he's protect me and trying to jump over the thing in the parking garage and god, yeah, yeah, okay, yes, yes, Dan, I think you were thinking of I think, for on average, if a woman every year above thirty five, for the average woman that you have a baby, I think the chances of complications in the baby, like down syndrome for instance, increase. Every woman is different. I think thirty five is like

the average age of that. From my understanding, it's really great just never having to worry about this because we're not having kids, so I don't have to think about it. I don't have to know about it. Abuts not as a dude, I'm saying as a couple who's not getting you're not having kids. It's just like we just don't have to think about this at all. It's not like, whoa fuck the clock's sticking, you know, It's like it just doesn't cross our minds. Ever. So, do you ever

like think about retirement and what ideal retirement? Because here's what going to the village is really kind of where it resonated with me is that I've never considered what happens when I'm fifty five, Like that is future Mary. I don't even consider what's supposed to go down. But walking around and seeing all these like pretty old people, and like when you're like sixty, like upper sixty

seventies, not everybody's like super mobile. No, but even with their like walkers and canes and with their like everything that they needed to keep mobile, they were dancing, they were like double fisting wines. They were like talking to women, And I was like, I do want to live like that? When I'm like, like, don't. I don't want to die when I'm sixty five. I want to like live my whole full life, and I think what was inspiring about the villages is like it's a silly place,

but I'm really grateful that they're like out there doing shit. And it's the first time in my life I ever thought what do I want to do when I'm sixty five? Like when I retire? What do I where am I

going to go? Yeah, And honestly, that is something that I've kind of been thinking about the last couple of weeks because it's like I have been having like a lot of fucking issues with my neck and stuff and see an X rays and it's like, oh man, I'm kind of fucked up physically right now and thinking about like, Okay, well, I'm glad I'm addressing this at thirty eight because I've been thinking a lot about like, fuck, if I'm in this batter shape, it's just fucking structurally at thirty eight,

I need to fucking do shit now. So when I'm fucking seventy, I am not just completely you know, immobile and things like that, so you know, I'm doing things. I got a standing desk, you know, I'm doing the physical therapy three times a week and all that stuff. So I'm trying to make the chance I can, but it's like it's fucking hard. I've been able to get on the peloton or anything for this whole month. I got that COVID the first couple weeks of January, and then i

had the pinch nerve also at the beginning of January. So I've been in like physical, fucking severe pain and sick for the whole month. So I'm over the COVID now and I think I'm starting to get better with the next stuff. But like, man, it's just like again, I'm thirty eight, and I've talked to all these doctors about like they ask what my job is and stuff, and I'm like, listen, it's it ain't great as far as like posture, and like I spend a lot of time in this

fucking chair and playing video games. You know, I do it all day during the day, and I'm streaming at night or podcasting at night, like I'm sitting a lot, and they're all like, yep, that'll do it, So yeah, something to think about for sure. And spurs and fucking spinal stenosis and vertebrae they're trying to fuse together and all sorts of shit, and it fucking hurts. I don't want to live like this, you know, Yeah, next stuff sucks, it sounds I don't. I don't know

if your's a spinal or muscular both. Yeah, I've slipped a disc in my I mean I've fractured my tailbone, which is obviously the other end of the spine. But I mean that was no walk in the park. But I've slipped a disc in my like between my shoulder blades a couple of times. It sucks. Yeah, like for like the recovery too, Like you have to You're like Batman before he gets that new suit in Dark Night that can help him turn. I specifically brought up Michael Keaton Batman in my physical

therapy. It can't turn normally because it's it's spinal and it's muscular. Because because my neck so fucked up, my upper back, Yeah, my upper back muscles have had to basically hold my head up. And so because they've been taking all this undue stress, it's fucking knotted up. And it is like everybody who's touched my back and the last few weeks has been like oh shit. And my neck is fucked up too, so it's like it's all

bad. Up here, so I have a I like for doing what we do or like, I mean, I don't know a lot of different professions just sit at desks in front of computers all day. But I got that, like, I don't know, it looks like kind of a detective's holster thing they put on my shoulders back. You try to use that at least a couple of times a week. Stuff. You do it over the shirt or under it, because like it's itchy. If it's under I do it over A short ideal, I'll just put like a flannel on over that.

Got it okay to cover it up? Like because people have seen it, be like, what is they think it's a bit it looks weird. Yeah, but I just stay in the house. I guess I don't know why I'm worried about that. I do have to ask Dan, as someone who kind of often will scoff. I know you're you're not like a verse completely a verse to highbrow stuff, but like, what did you think of Not that Walden's specifically highbrow, but what did you think of Walden? I loved

it and I haven't finished it. I thought I would. Well, so here's the thing I thought that night. I was like, I'm kill this bottle of wine. I'm gonna read this whole fucking book, because like, here's the thing. I and I was already you know, a good I was like one hundred pages in or something, and there's like three hundredth pages there. I'm gonna finish tonight, and I'm no stranger to staying up super

like, God damn this, sorry, audio listeners. I have a new camera and if I hold my hand up, it activates tracking and I'm gesturing a lot and then my camera starts yes, yes, um. So anyway, I lay down in bed day Mike late ast fuck, I will stream and till the fucking sun comes up. I will stay up, like after we record this tonight, we'll probably finish around midnight, and then I'll fucking I'll play games and watch Tonight's a w and all this stuff like, I'll

be up till two, three, four in the morning. And so I thought, no problem, I'm going to read this whole fucking book tonight and drinks the bottle of wine. I poured half a glass of wine. No, no, no, I poured a glass of wine, drank maybe half of one glass, and fell asleep in bed with Miles Davis playing with a book on my chest. I it's never fucking fallen asleep unintentionally in my life. Really, Like I fucking like I never understood like if I'm watching a

movie with someone they fall asleep. I've never been able to do that because I think I just have so much energy all the time. But my hypothesis here is, since my day wasn't filled with like NonStop playing games and being on the Internet and different things in stimuli and all that stuff, I think I just had a normal day where I was just doing normal, non digital

things, and I think my body was just ready. It's like, well it's like midnight, Yeah, you're gonna fall asleep nowt Like I've never done

that before. Well, blue light itself also can break havoc on your sleep sleep yeah yeah, so it's like that's kind of my theory is that, like, well, fuck, I just fell asleep at midnight, which I never do U. So yeah, I mean that that's even more to me like evidence that like, yeah, okay, this is the right path to go here where it's like, yeah, I know I work on the internet and I have to look at a bunch of screens and I love playing video

games and shit, but like dial back where I can like, you know, I don't know if I talked last time about the Twitter stuff I did where I like muted everybody into the list, and like now I just don't even see Twitter. Really it's great. It's fucking amazing. Um, yeah, dial back where I can um reading more. Uh, it's I got that whole Ralph Walda Emmerson book and yeah, it's been it's been good. So I'm very very happy without that's going. And yeah, I'm not would

I make fun of hyebrows stuff, I'm fucking I'm channeling my friend. He believes it. He's like, ah, you fancy pants, fancy boy whatever, it's like some coastal elite thing or whatever. I'm just being a dick. I'm kid in a book, whine in a book. At Miles Davis in a cabin. I realized that you know this, uh honestly sounds like an incredible weekend. I would. I loved it. I drove home from there just like fucking just calm and well rested and fucking like it was a

great time. Um, that sounds great. Speaking Mary, you mentioned table shuffleboard I thought you were gonna say you played shuffleboard. Well you said they're shuffle did photos. Me and my mom played shuffleboard for real fun, the physical you know, one with the stick. I did it. I did it last weekend. Um place. There's a place in Brooklyn called Royal Palms. I had a funny weekend because, um, we weren't Amanda and I weren't, or I rather are not. January is not over as of this

recording. We're not doing dry January intentionally, but we were also not feeling well like the first two weeks of January. So then kind of two weeks later we realized like, oh shit, we haven't had like a drop of alcohol, and of course we're like sleeping much better. We're feeling better in the Morning's like, oh interesting, I'm not sure what to learn from this. No, um, But then we went to play shuffle board and then had drinks. The first time got really drunk. It was really fun.

A shuffle board's fun. But B I had this. You guys know my sense of humor. I guess people watching this no my sense of humor. Um. I don't know if this comes through in the podcast, but sometimes I will just like lie as a joke, like boy who cried Wolf well for instance, Okay, so, um, like someone will be going to hand me a drink. I'm like, oh no, sorry, I don't drink, and but like take the drink anyway. It's dumb, it's not

even funny, but it makes people laugh for some reason. Amanda and I were sitting at this bar and we're We're at um the bar in a hotel. It's a fairly well known hotel in New York, and Amanda's back was to the entrance of the cafe, and uh, all of a sudden, Channing Tatum comes into the cafe, sits down at a table, and of course I'm like, Amanda Channing Tatum sitting right behind you, and she's like oh okay, And then I had to say it like yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. I had to say it no joke like six times. I'm like nope, okay, I realized this sounds like a bit, but he's behind you. I'm pretty sure Zoe Kravitz lives in Brooklyn, so maybe that's Ray I know, so yeah. Um. Finally she looks and he's like, oh, holy shit, it is And like that was Friday night and I never bother celebrities when I see them, just because I don't want

to be a most of the time. And I'll get to this, but I usually don't bother people because I know that there are people they just don't want to be like That was embarrassing when we were in New York that one time when you saw Cosby. I've never seen anyone Mark. If you're a new listener, I do not like Bill Cosby. We've gotten a bunch of new listeners recently, and I don't like Mark photos with the cause, I would say the cause I don't like this joke. I genuinely don't. Okay.

So that was Friday night, Saturday night or Saturday. We go to play shuffle board at the Royal Palms in Brooklyn, and I'm with my buddy Dan or you both know, Drew. I think at this point, um, we're on a team or no, rather we're on the same side of the court, so we're not on a team. But you know, I'm talking to him and all of a sudden, Steve Nash, for those who don't know, most recently, was the coach of the Brooklyn Nets. He was a very famous guard for the Phoenix Suns back in the day. Famous

Canadian basketball player who came in was a big NBA player. He sits sound this boothy behind my buddy Drew, and I'm like, oh, Steve Nash just sat down, and again I had to tell him like six or seven times until he finally looked. He's like, oh, you're You're not kidding, because of course that's something I know, you crab wolf, and I'm reaping what I've sewn. But it happened two nights in a row, and then I actually I did get a photo of Steve Nash because other people were

like, fist bum me. He was being friendly as hell. He was great. I was like, hey, man, I've been a fan here since you played for the Suns. You known if we get a photo, and I got one, and that was my that was my. There were very few people I would like get starstruck by. We've talked about this, Dan, Dan, you always say letterman, I would be David Byrne.

If I saw David Byrne, I'd piss my pants and still go up and talk to him and then ship easy with anyone with common sense, It's pretty easy to tell if it's a good time to ask a celebrity, like talking to him or you ask for a picture or something. Sometimes they're just being you know, smiley and fun talking to people and stuff like yeah yeah when they're eating. No chanting to him was like hunched over winter hat on,

clearly covering up his face. I was like, okay, let's not Steve Nash though, was like kind of wandering off by himself with a drink looking or whatever. He's drinking looking at They had like NBA banners, the pennants on the wall. He's looking at all those. He went to get to the food truck and line like he clearly wasn't like hiding, and the people start fist bumping and we're like, all right, let's go ask. And he was super nice. He seems like a good guy, and I'm surprised

he's still hanging around Brooklyn. He got canned unceremoniously because of all the the bullshit of the players on the Brooklyn nets. He got done dirty, as they say, speaking of slang. Yeah, but you guys had some cool weekends. Yeah, it was great Experio And I'm going to San Antonio this weekend so I'll have another one. Nice. You are very active, These young viril active. I'm so viril, so viril. What is the definition of viril? What's the Lariam Webster here? It's about like child able to

have children? Is there something weird like that? Is that? No? Yeah, I would say it's like, let me look, I think up viral the dude version of that, and what's the lady version. It's uh, there's a word too, viril and new bile beef in the oven. You ever call me new bilele like au bile the same thing. No, new bile is I'm fairly certain like a young young, young sexual. We all look this up virile. The dude person of that thought all viral,

he's very virile or they probably gross words we shouldn't use. They're all having having strength, energy and a strong sex that drive for a man. But no, that's it looks like virile. But I think you usually say like viral, viral. Okay, new bile, let's look that up. Nu ball is a young woman sexually mature. But if she's sexually sure, that's better. But the you know, old enough for marriage. I thought it was versions of what country. Yeah, I've only ever seen on corn sights,

which is not a good start. I know that word. I see it all the time. What sights? Where are they? What? Just so I know not to go there. It's my favorite category. Yeah. No, I'm gonna say I'm very virle this week at work and see what they say. They're gonna tell you to get rid of your word of the day calendar. Yes words, that would be so ghosh if they did that.

Um. There's an old Disney show called Even Stevens and if you guys ever watched it, So the older brother who was like such a good character on that show, he did this bit where he had a word of the day calendar and every time he would walk into the room, he'd be like, there's so much going on in this room. It's almost like a cornucopia of items. And then he would walk out and they'd be like, this fucking guy, Chyla move was No, it's brother, but there's like an

older guy. Oh okay, okay. Spans was the neighbor who came in and just hung maybe it's that guy whatever. Beans was their neighbor that was like his best friend or like the neighborhood was popping in at dinner time. Disney Channel. I never had the Disney Channel, and I never had Cartoon Network, and so there's realms of things I didn't like. I was Nickelodeon through and through me had dug Nicktoons ran and steppy end of that ship.

Absolutely, but like Disney Channel stuff. We would have like three weekends and I'd get see a couple episodes of goof Group or whatever, um, but never any of the like there was that whole like live action era. Like when my sisters were young, we had the Disney Channel and it was all even Stevens and Hannah Montana and all that shit that they were sister sister. Yeah, exactly like that era. But I was, yeah, what a good era? Well yeah, because then Nickelodeon was my favorite by far,

but then Cartoon Network had Dexter's Laboratory, had Invader Zim. Fairly I had that growing up, but I knew them because my parents. My dad had them, so my dad had cable, my mom didn't. But I live with my mom, so I never grew up with that stuff. Um, but I was aware of how cool they were, how chicken that was like the the young version of having different streaming services. I'm like, yeah, I mean I had whatever, Cartoon Network, All right, swet channel because

that's well, it's like Nickelodeon for us was channel thirty four. Also shaquea Eel's number, So I remember that Cartoon Network was fifty two cards in a deck? And then shit, what was what was Disney Channel was like way up? It was like it was like eighty five Dennis Rodman's number. Nickelodeon growing up wasn't Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Uh, CBS for Letterman, NBC. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, you you judge, you you knew networks by their talk show hosts. I didn't think you knew enough

about it to question me the most famous team in sports ever. Um, yeah, I missed those days when I did not have a phone, when I just had to worry about what cartoon channel this next show was going to be on. Cartoon Network also had Looney Tunes all the throwback stuff when I watched that, that was on Nickelodeon or what. But like, yeah, I definitely grew up watching like Looney Tunes. And you know why the coyote and all that shit, Um must have been a Nickelodeon. I would think

that ship was from like Mary Melodies. And all that. That was like the sixties, right, what was it doing airing in like the early nineties. Well, because Nick Nickelode did Nick at Knight. I was always like

Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dye. You know what were you talking about, like like Looney Tunes like that Space Race, Like I imagine it's just like syndication shit like this is I don't know, I guess it's not that different from streaming services now where it's like that's where Jerry sign That's why Jerry Seinfeld has so much fucking money because Seinfeld got syndicated, so he was just

set for life. Oh yeah, syndication rights are massive. Yeah, I mean that still happens, like you know, big Bang theory or whatever. It's just raking in money because it's a syndication. But yeah, it's just

a bunch of different landscape now. Yeah. But then among the many other not to be a downer, among the many other economic concerns recently, it's like, um else it the phrase Hollywood Wall Street, Like the people on Wall Street who inform the Hollywood market are saying like, oh man, all this money you've been like catapulting into streaming is starting to not pay dividends.

You should pull out. We'll not pull out, but like, hey, here's a slight warning that you're you're kind of you're kind of poking the bubble um, which I think has been happening for all. Like Netflix hasn't been great for a while, but it's also just white noise. Do you guys know, Speaking of books, do you know um Don DeLillo? White noise? Have you seen on Netflix with Adams Driver? It's credit Girwig as his wife. Okay, so it's one of those books that's like widely considered Gwig.

Is that the the Global Warming? No, that's cred A Fundberg. Oh okay, she's married. Okay, like Credi Gerwig directed Francis Ha. She she's done, like she did Ladyberg, Ladybird. It's so new bile though, you know that word sounds gross? Yeah, it is gross. You've ruined that word was quite. I didn't know what it meant, and you guys got weird with it. No, you didn't know. I mean you were correct. Mike had the immediate reaction to someone who feels guilty because

he knew where that word came from. In his mind, what he's a writer. You know, he's got don't don't don't be, don't be, don't be, laconic um White Noise. Yeah, kind of more like laid back, easy. Yeah. Wouldn't people describe orange cassidy. He's a laconic Yeah, Okay, all right, he's the definition of it. White Noise. This book by Don de Lillo, who also did Underworld. His first book was Americana. He's done a shit ton. It's one of those books

that's considered like unadaptable to movie. Basically, Noah Bomback, who has done like marriage stories done Noah on the Whale. He's just done these like low key dissolving marriage, divorcing parents, kind of family drama stuff. He took on White Noise, which is also where the band Airborne Toxic Event gets their name. But the amount of money that they just threw at this dude who had never done a movie of this scale and scope and by the I mean

Netflix, is absurd. I started watching it the other night and it's long. I got two hours in and I'm like, this is the most expensive movie I've seen in a long time. And Noah Bomback, who the last movie I saw by him was about Scarlett Johansson, Adam Driver breaking up for three hours in like three rooms that directed it. Yeah, yeah, which I liked, But it's crazy and I'm like, if Netflix is doing this, this must be like a tipping point of some sort. And it's not

that I didn't. I actually kind of enjoyed the movie. It's not perfect, but from what I saw, I liked it. I feel it was just a spending spree from like maybe the mid twenty tens, like we'll say, like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, until maybe a little bit into the pandemic where it's just like, you know, Netflix and Hulu and Amazon everyone

just spending so fucking much money just trying to get their exclusive things. Ever since, I feel like House of Cards was that first really big one, you know, where it's like, oh, we're just going to dump all this, you know, the whole season goes up at once and it's Netflix exclusive and all this stuff, and we got a list actors and all this, and then like spending and then like I feel like, was it mid pandemic or late kind of pandemic lockdown era that it's like, oh it should

like Netflix had a harsh drop off they went like seven hundred, eight hundred to like fucking one fifty or two hundred or something like. It was precipitous. Yeah, because other like others with your calendar words it three ones real quick and trying to yeah, it's really okay, and it really is. I think I think the the natter thing when things were nascent really would have been ten. And then it just really did it really did just um precipitate

several wells. There were several defining factors of the of the of the It was really raining shows. How would you describe that dead lift? Oh, that dead lift was absolutely inscrutable. All right, dude, that guy, that guy that's doing those uh those lateral raises looks pretty nonplussed. I never plus okay, actually no, what defined nonplused? Well, it's confused because I used in a bunch of giant on once and and people told me I

was saying it wrong. So oh yeah, yeah, okay, so I see it is like unaffected unbothered, um, which it's like the opposite. Okay, it's actually the opposite. I always thought that too, And then I use it and someone was editing one of my like reviews or something, and of course I use non plus in a video game review because I'm a douche bag. But they're like, actually, this means that they were very agitated, like upset. I was like, oh, that makes no sense.

It doesn't sound like that. The one I always remember from writing a video game review was saying something like, oh, this thing, the visuals don't jive with the whatever you know something? Yeah, oh gay, and it's jibe with a B. Yeah yeah. But we debated it. Yeah, and I always thought it was jive as well. And we talked about coming down the pike as opposed to pipe right right right right. But yeah, m hm. My vocabulary is real big. I know a lot of

words. I don't think I know what most of them or a lot of them mean. I just hear them in a certain context and I think I know how to use them, and I think ninety percent of the time I'm right, but sometimes i'm pretty off, like non plussed. I was off. Yeah, it happens. I pronounced a ray as ari until I was like eleven eleven. Yeah, I was eleven. Uh, never forget when you know, the old amuse bouche conversations happened and I embarrassed myself forever.

What's the actual thing? What did you? Well, that's how you said. What did you What were you saying? Uh? What did I say? I always a yeah, I just embarrassed myself. Fully, I don't know how to say uh oh, hors, divors. Yeah, you're just just tough though, Like I know order of when I see it, but like when I actually go to spell it, But why don't we just convert it like we do everything else because we're dumb dumbs. It's a lot of

problems, Mike orders, can you look it up? And I want to see if I can spell a French word correctly, spelling prowess so technically I believe it's more than one word. But sure, I turn up. Okay, I got it? Uh, okay, do you I'm gonna need like actual like exclamation points in it. Well, I don't know the lots or whatever. It's r R S right, sure, d apostrophe O U R B E S. No, you got the right letters, they're out of order. It's d apostrophe O E U v R E s U ship.

But it's also v R e s all right, all right, it's it's a dumb language. No, I'm just kidding. French is actually pretty cool. Amanda speaks it really well. I speak Spanish proficiently, and Spanish makes way more sense in my mind. Spanish is not that hard. No, it's not read most Spanish. Yeah, French, Spanish, Italian. I

mean just they're the romantic languages. That's not a thing there. They come from, like Roman, like largely affected by Roman Roman romantic m wait does like love Romantic well, like Roman language is largely like Latin from what I believe then, like a lot of different like what is it? There are certain like this is like sat stuff that I forgot, like to know whether the plural of a word would be like pie or like octopie or octopuses.

You have to know whether it's Greek origin or Latin. Latin is awesome though, Like I loved learning, Like in junior high, I learned a bunch of Latin stuff and like the prefixes and subfixes and you can like it's like, oh, I can see where a lot of English words come from. Where it's like uh, liberaate you know, liberty, freedom, you know things like that, Like it's I thought that was really interesting. People don't speak it now the five most widely spoken. Okay, I'm gonna look up.

Okay. The Romance languages, sometimes referred to as Latin languages or Neo Latin languages, are various modern languages that evolved from Vulgar Latin. They are the only extant group subgroup of the Italic languages in the Indo European language family. Holy shit, there's a lot of different things there. What does vulgar means? Also known as popular or colloquial Latin, is the range of non formal registers of Latin spoken from the Late Roman Republic onward. There you go.

So there were the prominent languages in the Late Roman Republic that carried on into like big languages nowadays. When was Rome like a big deal? Was that like hundreds or thousands of years ago, the thousands, when like Caesar and all that ship was happening, Caesar, Augustus Marcus Aurelius, was that near Never forget Augustus Gloup that part of the Renaissance? Or was that this

would have been before the Renaissance? Okay, well, I mean, like the Renaissance sparked near where all this shit happened, but it was long before it there's so much creat because you learned about, like I know of the Renaissance. I know of like the Roman Empire and all that stuff, but there's crazy shit that you don't realize where the crossovers were, Like what was

that was then Assassin's creed in origins were with pyramids. That was one where it's like there was like Roman statues and stuff, and it's like, what the fuck does all this? Yeah, I heard that like Rome and Egypt had like a crossover view going on Libya, which is just west of Egypt. Was I'm gonna mix this up. Was a initially, I believe. I think it like changed hands between the Greeks and Romans several times through like

political and bloodshed. So the Rome like invade Egypt and like own the pyramids and stuff. Oh yeah, Rome, and like what Cleopatra and Caesar got super tight. I fuck it with Clepand whenever I hear about Cleopatra, they were historical context, they were virile, they were new bile anybody that he

boo. Whenever I hear Cleopatra brought up in a historical context, that fucks me up because I think I always confused her with Medusa and I think Medusa was fictional, and so like when I I I'll hear Cleopatra and I'll picture like the snake hair and everything. I'm pay a minute. That wasn't a shoot, Like Cleopatra wasn't around, but I guess she was like a historical real person. Yeah, Cleopatra's brother was told me the I forget the number,

told me the sixth or second or something. He was installed by that. I believe, I'm fucking so much of this up. I think he was allied with the Greeks, and then Cleopatra was like in exile, she got close with Caesar, believe they were they were bumping uglies. And then she came back to Egypt and she had her brother killed and took over. I actually want correction on that because I was interested in that stuff for a while. UM, just make make sure you're correct, because if you're not,

we can't air this. I know, you know, all right, I can't wait for the emails. No, I'm actually asking for corrections there because I think I'm sort of fairly close. And you know how you know how history exams go in high school when your teacher makes you you failed, like I was in the Ballpark. Yeah. Anyway, Um, do you guys want to talk about video games? It's two thousand and eight the USG issue. No, I'm just kidding. Death Space Make It Out is now

out? If you're listening to this came out Friday. Does it have any kind of like remake or it just it's just all dead Like if you look at the two titles listed side by side, there's no correct, it's just both dead Space right correct? Yeah? Yeah, I guess from from here on out, we'll have to say it like Doom twenty sixteens, like Dead Space twenty twenty three. Yep, yep. I don't necessarily like that, but it works like if I say a Hitman twenty sixteen. You know,

I'm not talking about the fucking PS two games. So yeah, it works. Got a Wars same thing. Yeah, I'd rather that than like a clunky subtitle. You know. Oh yeah, what are the I mean some of them lean into a tomb Raider anniversary tomb Raider legend. You know, there's there's like they get recently, they have really bad ones. Was it remastered edition? Yes, that's exactly the one I would have. Was that

Red Faction Gorilla Remastered oh, there was a Darksider's Death Definitive edition. Yeah, yeah, which the remarkstart, I don't mind because that game is already like dumb fun that Darksiders, which is not really that. So that's when I was like, oh my god. Yeah, the first game was very serious of Darksiders, like let's do gritty mythical or like biblical. Yeah. I like that first one a lot. I like the first and second one. The second one was like a bit more over, like open and collectible

laden. But now here's a question, what's the new dead Space like? It's I like it a bunch. They made some changes. I would say, right off the bat, if you really liked the first game, you played it, it'll be noticeable how much Isaac Clark talks. Now. Yeah, I had forgotten because like in two and three he had a voice, right, but I forgot he was silent in the first one, and they like totally changed his face. He looks like Lance Armstrong. Now they changed

his face. They couldn't um, I'm assuming it's contractual thing. They didn't get Hammond back pretty the dude. He's the actor who gets kicked into the bottomless well in three hundred played Hammond, if memory serves, But oh yeah. At first I was like, oh God, what are they doing? But the more I played it, and I think I'm about halfway, I actually like it. The voice actors are all good, but specifically with Isaac talking, but he'll take his helmet off and walk around and talk on the

radio sometimes. But I think they actually did it in a creative way, in the sense that when you have objectives Isaac when he's talking to Hammond and should I forget his other shipmate's name after Chen gets killed, he'll like give more engineering centric reasons for what the objective is. That kind of lend a bit more flavor to it. It's no longer just like Hammond somehow knows how

to decouple this thing and then refuse that. It's Isaac being like, oh, guys, someone they'll give him an objective Isaacly like, that's actually not as easy as you're making it sound. Also that the medical wing is flooded with necromorphs or whatever, like guys like I will have to do this in that and this that's a complicated process, and the like, well we gotta I was like, oh, okay. In the original version, it was like Hammond being like, you'll have to go there reattach this and somehow he

knows this, so it actually works. It's not just ham fisting dialogue. In For the most part, I think all of the changes work really well, and I was surprised because like I hadn't really follow the development or announcements

or anything. There's more changes than I expected. In fact, I one of the things I definitely remember about the first one was the asteroid thing being a giant pain in the ass, Like there's a part where you just have to sit and like, yeah, just shoot a billion asteroids one die. Yeah, I remember being like a pain in the ass. And this one, like there is still that sequence where there are asteroids coming at the ship, but the way they handle it, Mike, I don't know if you've

been there yet is like totally different and it's fun. It's just like basically you're kind of flying around in zero G, which they added like a bunch of like zerog like mobility stuff to this one. And yeah, that's really well, which you know, that's an easy thing to kind of fuck up and be disorienting, but like they made it really easy to kind of like

write yourself and rotate and all that. So you're going up with these different stations of these turrets and you have to calibrate the turrets by pointing them at a certain amount of asteroids, and once you've done that, you can leave it and it will shoot the asteroids for you you move on to the next one. It just makes it a much smoother experience there. Yeah, the map's a lot better now. It looks more like kind of like the map from like you know, Resival to Remake. It's not a clunky like you

know, mid two thousands where everything was trying to do the worst. According to Kayla, goddamn god, damn it. Yes, it's everything was trying to do three D maps in the mid two thousands and most of them sucked. So this is like flat and works better. Yeah, this zer g stuff is good. Some of it doesn't. Some of it really shows the

time it was made. There's a lot of very obvious like environmental storytelling or stuff like as soon as you get the plasma cutter that's cut off their limbs written in blood on the wall, and in the span of like five minutes I got the mcutter. It says that in blood on the Wall there's an audiolog I find where they're like, we shot it in the face, but it didn't die. We had to shoot off its arms and its legs before

he died. Yea. And then I got a tooltip that was like, hey, just to reiterate, oh my god, it's arms and it's legs. And then a tooltip pops up and says, hey, hey, you should shoot their limbs with the plasma cutter. You can rotate it if you need to cut the limbs better. Then you get a call from your captain and he says, don't even try to shoot him in the head, and Isaac goes, yeah, the only ways to kill him is to cut off

their limbs, their arms, their legs. Clear. I wrote that down verbatim because it was so just like, hey, shoot their fucking limbs. I have a I have a screen shot at one of the tram stations. I forget which one, in small paint chalk, I don't know. There's several of those, kind of like a hyper corporate propaganda posters the tram station to say come work for concordance. It's the whole like Verhoeven, like RoboCop,

like yeah, doopian um. There's a little. I don't know who wrote this or if it happened after the outbreak or what, but it just says, in case you guys weren't aware of the very subtle themes of the trilogy, someone wrote, fuck this ship, it's a shitty capitalist organization. Yes, And then I saw I took a picture of one sent at the bunk where it's just like a post it note or something, and it just says, we have run out of body bags here the spray painted it on

the wall. Well, I realized that I forgot how kind of dumb this game is with stuff like that, and like spoiler story mute for ten seconds if you went through here. Um, but like the whole gimmick of the yeah the Nicole is dead, gimmick of the first letters of all the chapters, It's like, that's such a dumb thing, like but love. And I was seventeen, I'm like, oh, that's that's so brilliant that that

means. That does not mean what I'm saying. It means. Okay, I remember thinking it was back then, but it seems kind of just like okay, sure, right, I don't think it's a neat idea. It's kitchy and it's silly, but it is like an interesting thing. I was reading a whole thread about how graffitian games rarely does what it's meant to do, because graffiti is pretty much about trying to say something to the masses that you're not supposed to or allowed to say. In protest right, it's not

really meant to be something that you yeah, it's not. It doesn't work like that, and so you can do that to get the word across. But that's why it always feels awkward to the player in terms of like story building, because no one would actually write that down. They did write like anything. They would just probably write like it, you know, like we're

all gonna die or whatever. Did you guys remember the Left or Dead storyboards that would just say like, you know, we're all gonna die, and then they would fight in the storyboars and be like I hope you died. He'd be like, you know what, screw you man, and they were like fighting in the spray paint like that's like a classic. Well, we

talked about Signalis last year. That was the first game in a while that did not do all these tropes like you get a code you could read emails on computers because there was a power surge that reset the security on the computers, which let you there was people complaining that someone had access to this channel. It all was, I don't know, more diagetic that like actually I'm serious about um no, yeah, actually good diagetic. I wrote my notes

for this because of all the digetic hud stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, you know that holds up like seeing the AMMO on the guns and seeing the health bar like on his back, like fucking no hut at all. It's all diegetic, like in world like that. That's awesome, I think. Yeah, and they did make so Yeah, the zero G is no longer you're picking a point and leaping shooting there like a laser and then you're magnetized

to it. It is. They retrofitted two and three, especially three zero G into one, so that works like they've retrofitted a lot of two and three stuff into one, whether it's the zero G or Isaac talking more. But they also messed with the weapons a bit in ways I love because I don't know if you remember, in the original version of Dead Space, the

pulse rifles alternate fire. He would kind of stick it in the ground and it would rotate like a sprinkler shooting bullets, but the bullets were never powerful enough to do anything. Pulse rifle is only good if you can shoot them like seventeen times in a row in one specific spot. So like, what the fuck is the point of this? So now it's the proximity mine that was not the alternate fire in the original game. They added that, um, did you get the flamethrower yet? Yes, the what was the flame

the flamethrowers original alt fire? I forget what it was. But now it's like a wall of fire that anybody who goes any necromorpher that goes through it just is incinerated. So in like a room, you can like you know, you can set up like okay, well that blocks off that area. Yeah, yeah, they did that some of the like for all of the dumb blood on the wall stuff. Some of the text logs are I forgot.

Someone compared one my coworkers, who knows the game the original much better than I do, show the difference between two text logs, and I was like, oh, the writing is better now, Like I don't think I would have noticed when I was seventeen. Hub and I've played that game many times since, but I don't read the text slugs anymore, or I haven't read them since I was seventeen and played the game for the first time. So it was really I was like, oh, wow, they are a

bit less ham fisted than the first game. It was all that, like the same annoying, overwrought in your face, blood in the wall stuff, but same text logs. And now not that they're all perfect by any means, but they definitely show a bit more understanding, and it helps that the trilogy has been completed for a while, so they have more context for They introduce the alien technology unitologist stuff much earlier markers a unitology or unitarians a real

thing unitology. Yes, I get a mixed up. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of that, Like it seems dated now, but also everything was doing it at the time, so it's like, you know, I get kind of oh, there's a lot of audiologs here. There's these video

transmissions that play and you can't really do anything until it's done. It reminds me of the like Gears or the Arkham like slow Walk and talk about like it's annoying now, but like that wasn't really a big problem back then, so it's like it's not bothering me too much here, But like there are those moments where you realize that this was a game that was made two thousand and eight, but a lot of it, like the fucking stomp is still

so good. I still think the objective marker, just that tram it shows it on the ground is great because then it's like, Okay, that's the way forward. I can go down these side things if I want to explore and get some nodes or whatever. I forgot about the kinetic stuff though, like the I love any game that has like that psy ops you know,

Force Star Wars. You can throw stuff, Yeah, and I forgot about the stuff where it's like, oh, I can cut off a fucking spiky arm up one neck or more kinnetic that into my hands and then use it to impale another one against the wall, which she feels good. Yeah. I love that. There's also like three levels of security doors now, yeah, which gives it more of a metroidvania feel, which the game was always somewhat of a metroidvania, but now it's specifically like, okay, mental note

to come back to this room. That the story will probably not take me to so I can get past this into this locker. Yeah, it's like metal Gear. You get like a level three key card and find yourself in an early area. It's like, oh, fucking go into this room now and give both the famaus or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, in general, it's faithfully made, but they changed enough little nitpicky things. I probably would

have had if I played the original nowadays. I think that played the original like three years ago maybe, Yeah, replayed the trilogy the best weapon Mary, it would have been when we played it for Knevil. Those were good times. Yeah, And I don't I don't think any of the Dead Space games have aged particularly poorly. Really enjoying them, every one of them.

I remember like kind of breezing through and not having too much difficulty. I do remember the Asteroid sequence fairly well, Dan and like how that was a little annoying but such a scary game. It's a spoopy game. It's great but tense and like it had a lot of action. It wasn't it wasn't full on survival horror where you're like scraping by for Ammo and stuff, like there would be those rooms where you walk in and it's like, Okay,

there's gonna be a bunch of fucking action in here. There's gonna be a bunch of ship coming through events and everything, and like it was just tense action more than I think it was horror. And also it was the game that most channeled Event Horizon to me, and I love Event Horizon and just that like idea of like space horror, like just fucked up stuff is happening on the ship. Like I thought it worked so well then, and this is a really really great remake. I think, Yeah, it's super good.

I don't. I it's all so darker in a good way, not in like a Game of Thrones finale way. It's like it makes it scarier because you go into some rooms and they purposely the lights will go off and the power is faltering, and like, oh fuck, and it's you're not supposed to be able to see. It's not a screen darkness problem, it's oh fuck, the lights are off in the game. In the world.

In the room, you have that new mechanic where it's like you go up to the circuit breaker or whatever, and it's like, okay, you can only use two of these three things, and one of them is the lights. So it's like, Okay, I can unlock the elevator and the doors, but that means I gotta turn the lights off and I gotta go through this scary ass place with no lights. And I was HDR around when two thous newer technology, so like DR and just getting those like darker blacks and

everything like that's uh, it's really really effective in this. Yeah, I like it a whole bunch. Yeah, I'm getting excited. I'll probably maybe play some more after that. I want to play it. It's really cool. But it's got that the last of us resival for perfect pacing loop of like Scavenge Crap at Kale Gather Upgrade Puzzle Solve Scavenge Craft. It's like it's hard to put down. It's like I'll just play another ten minutes until the next day point. Yeah, oh but now I can go I have another

Yeah, I have my notes. I put every note in the plasma cutter, so like if I run out of plasma cutter, mo like the other stuff works, but it's like my plasma cutter is just amazing. Yeah, that's the that was the achievement. That was a really fun achievement to get on three sixty the pla. Yeah yeah, um yeah, I uh, I like that game quite a bit. Great, it's still very good if you never played it back in the day, Like you don't really need nostalgia,

just just play it. It's very good. Yeah. What a cool looking suit too, Yep, very cool. Yeah, I love the suit. Yeah, you're toast her head. Yeah yeah, Mary, I'm curious what you think having played Dead Space for the first time, Like, what, I haven't played it. You guys played it. I haven't played No, sorry, excited, I'm curious what you think having only played the first one. Finally played the first one three years ago. Right, it's I

don't know, like there's a lot of stuff. I forget that that circuit breaker puzzle wasn't even in the original. Yeah, it's it does what a good remake should do, and kind of it's like, oh right, this is how I remember the game, even if it's up every once in a while. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure if I looked back at like footage of eight, I'd be like, oh wait, that actually looks way worse. But in my mind, like this is how I remember playing this game.

It's good. Timing too after Plissa Protocol was not great. Actually, yeah, that's that's great. Having past that game was not we did. We talk about that on here. It's not good. Yeah, okay, um Mary, would you play playing? Um? So, I gave up on a game a couple of months ago and I talked about it on here. It was called The Night Which, yeah, we talked. We were all excited when we heard the Elevator pitch for it, and we were all

excited about it. And I played it and I said, it's kind of ridiculous and it shoves you in these like really small spaces with a shit ton of enemies and it's just like good luck, and like it's really kind of chourney in that space. So I quit. Well, I went to the villages in Florida and I brought my Steam deck. I'm sure you were. That was a hit. They were all paying those couldn't get enough. What are these night Wich You didn't spoilers? You had to walk around with your

hands over your ears. Yeah, what is that? Dead space? I needed? Uh? I needed a game I could play on the plane for like five hours. And this is a game you can really sink your teeth into because it's all about improving your skills. It's like I said, it's very churney, like these boss fights can take a lot of turns to get through, and I needed something that I could spend a lot of time on. So I restarted The Night Wich and I kind of like it now it's

pretty good. Um, I think putting in time, I hint, I'm a better person now. I needed to put more time into building my character, and I also think I need to get over the hurdle of this game. You build a deck and you are you are a Nightwich, and you fly, so you can you can go anywhere. It's a bit of a

bullet hell where you can fly anywhere with your left stick. Your right stick is your aim, and you just kind of basically want to always be shooting abs so that you can constantly be hitting all the enemies that are coming at you. You can either point your stick at them to shoot them that causes more damage, or you cannot. You will auto target the closest enemy for a little less damage. But then you don't have to like you don't even have to point at them. You can just shoot and run around like a

little what was this a while ago? You talked about this a couple months ago. Maybe it was it was recommended to me by um like another streamers while Kim Chika does like a lot of cozy games and so on my Steam deck and no, I got it on my switch or something, and I played it on a plane. I totally forgot I played that. It's like, oh wait, I remember flying around doing this like my third Vanian thing. That's right, That's why I played it too. A bit was it

was impressed, but I only played it on that one flight. Yeah, kind of. It was just ramps up the difficulty really heavily, and I got to this point where I was like, this game isn't worth like beating

my head against a wall to beat these spaces in these areas. This trip, however, because I was sitting on a plane for five hours, I just kept churning these areas, and every time I beat one it felt good, like it gives you a nice feeling when you can get through these very difficult spaces or that like tough boss fight and so kind of burning through it, I have felt a bit more confident and a bit more of an understanding

of what this game is trying to do. It just push you and again the mechanics of like, so you pick this deck and you always have three cards. They're randomly going to give you three cards. You get manna from killing enemies, and then you can use that man to play a card. A card could be something like a shield, or it could be a really heavy weapon or a machine gun. There's all sorts of line. I'm I'm now, I'm so far in the game because I played it all the way

there. I played it while I was in Florida, and then I played it all the way back. So now I've like sunk, you know, fifteen hours into this game. I have all the cards. I'm pretty I'm a powerful witch, and I am murdering these things. And I've started to notice that the depth of the game is a little deeper than I was giving

it credit for. The art of the game is actually pretty good. There's a couple areas I've been in now that are fucked in a good way, you know what I mean, where like they put a lot of energy into like showing really sad ass creature, just like a gross grotesque, like fucked up creature, And I was like, man, the art team had a ball making these like weird ass creatures in what I would consider if you were to look at this game, if you were to look at image of this

game on Google, you'd be like, this just looks like a cute like kitchy sweet game has a dark underbelly, and it has a decent concept of a story of like how you know how the media plays a toll on like war and like a person who is in war, whether or not they're on the right side. And you know, I mean, these things are have been said before. But I think it's an interesting take on the game and I've enjoyed it. I actually I've I've completely flipped my script on it.

I think it's a good game. I do think people should give it a shot. Thanks Kim Chica. Sorry it took me six months to come to terms with it, but I actually think it's pretty good. The thing that I got that I bounced off of with it is a lot of games are using deck building in interesting ways to mash up with other genres. My problem with this was, like in a bullet hell and correct me if I'm wrong. I think if memory serves it's, yeah, you're building a deck of

three cards and then you're using the three. You're using X, Y, and B the face buttons to cast that random card that's as signed to that button. In a bullet hell, when things get difficult, I would rather know which button the shield is on. But the way that they randomize the buttons, I'm like, I don't feel like that fits with a bullet hell.

That was one of the things that really kissed me off. Yeah, because you're talking about like a screen filled with bullets and I have to look at the lower right and be like, okay, so why is a my machine gun? And you can have I think your deck can have like eight to ten cards, but it's random which three you have at any given time. So just because you have a show doesn't mean it's in your three at this time. Yeah. I don't know. I just didn't It didn't feel

like a fifth. Maybe I just wasn't there too, because I'm finding that I can't have the card that I want at the appropriate time. I think that's honestly the reason I quit. Am I here. I think you're frozen, Mike, No, you're completely Wait now you're back, You're coming back, You're coming back. Okay, I think you might be back. Okay, Am I back, wait, wait, tell you something like I am,

I am saying something. Oh you're slowly waiting too, And yeah, Mike was telling him where he started that he's had some bad internet because there's been storms in the area. Well, I'm also in the area. But I have you known adult internet? You know you had internet problems like last year for two weeks straight. It's a nightmare. But then I did the adult thing and I got, you know, stuff that worked, so we come on, it should work. Yes, Well, okay, let's get

out of the screw driver or whatever you are there. My biggest problem is just my power goes out, like not all the time, but like if there's a storm with wind, I'm like, oh, I better stuck up on candles, Like it's a It's a consistent enough thing that I've gotten to accept it. I guess mine is the basement flooding. If I had to pick one thing, yeah, powers good, but yeah, basement flooding. Snakes is fucking phenomenal. But every once in a while, snakes. I'll

take good Internet if it means I get a snake or two. I don't think they're connected, honest, Like that reminds me like when we worked at Gabe Spot. Mike used to do that all the time, with those stupid like um like something really good, but something bad happens to you. And there would be like two different versions of them, and they were both so horrible, like they would they would just be like terrible things like you know, your feet are hands and your hands or your feet um or you know

you have to like poo and pee out of the same hole. And every time you do you have to whistle. It's just like no one wants to pick between those. Well, that's the whole point is you got to debate which one's worse. And I had a book I remember once and the one that always stuck with me. The book was all would would you rather this or that? And it was would you rather poop a watermelon or pam Marble?

And I assume it is meant for dudes, and I would I don't know, no, no, no, no, not a watermelons, poop a softball or pam marble? So like watermelon would wreck you for life, but like softball would just be a bad day. So like, I don't know which one would be worse. I mean they sound awful, I would say me the marble. Here's the thing kidney stones sound back is they're jagged and they're gonna rip up your urethra. I think a marble being smooth,

it would just be like whoa, that's stretchy. But it wouldn't be like cutting you up, you know. Yeah, you just squeeze the hose a little bit and it kind of shoots out. Yeah, you can just kind of grab the base and scoot it up like a toothpaste tube and just get that marble out of there. Probably, I don't know if that's like honest for you. If that, I think I have a normal I don't look like you're the kind of person that says that you want to be knocked out.

Looking Dan with the big pepole, look got the big hole on Dan. I don't think there's a lot of variants in that, is you can shoot marbles out of that thing. No, I don't want to do you guys, I probably shouldn't pose a question with my internet's unstable. No, you're coming back for now, I'm back. Do you remember the movie Little Nikki? Yeah? I never saw it. I played the game Boy,

so I mean he's the Devil's son or something. Adam Sandler, but like he's in hell and Hitler shows up and his punishment in I Forget Um, his Hitler's punishment is to get a pineapple shoved up his ass every single day for the like eternity. Okay, and the watermelon reminded me of that. I got to look up who played Hitler in Little Nikki, because there's no way it's just a random person I think it was. It wasn't a character, it was just someone. It was a cameo from Hitler. Really,

er Carroll. It's Chris Carroll. Oh yeah, that Hitler looking guy. Okay, Yeah, it just looks like Hitler. Okay, I thought it'd be Chris Kitain since it was an SNL guy. Okay. I don't think this movie was super SNL heavy people. Was it that Lauren most of the time? Maybe this was like Happy Madison era, but a lot of the SNL stuff early on, like producing it. Yeah, Oh yeah, this is a Tim Hurley that the Sandler squad. Yeah. I would rather Yeah,

I guess I would rather Pam Marble. Yeah, I'd be smoother. The softballs have seems and I don't want that fucking up I wrecked him or whatever. Yeah, I'm trying to remember now what some of the weirder ones I said would have been. It's like, would you rather be buried alive for thirty seconds every time you sneeze? Or or uh, be falling from a skyscraper for ten seconds every time you poop? I can hold in my

sneezes, but I can't hold in my poops. So fun. Yeah, if you know you're not gonna land and be fine, Yeah, I'm totally fine. Actually, i'd be fine with the baried to life teop. With the baried to live part wouldn't be fun. It would just be like, all right, I gotta do this for ten seconds. The falling while you're falling. Oh um, no, you don't actually poop. It's like falling from a skyscraper replaces the poop function in your body. That just sounds fun.

I love skydiving. I would love to do that every time. Yeah. Um, would you rather have game cubes for nipples or plasma two thousand little plasma TVs for nose hairs? Do I have to have? Do I have to have three GameCubes as nipples? Since I have nipples, have three?

You'd have the orange one, the purple one tiny GameCube. Yeah, okay, yeah, I get the spice orange for my third one, I get the end to go for the all right, yeah, yeah, I guess I'd go with the GameCube nipples, although that'd be hard to hide the shirt. I guess the plasma TV nose hairs if they're tiny enough you wouldn't really notice. I would do the GameCube nipples because I think you could sell that. Do they work? People would pay good money? The GameCubes and

the TV's work. Okay, Oh if I had, can I choose both? And then I can like component from the GameCube nipples to the plasma Which would you rather have? GameCube nipples are saying you could play like sunshine on your nose hairs, but you couldn't see it. You'd have to have like a mountain thing that came out. Yeah, yeah, you run, You run Sunshine on your nipples, but you the images in your nose. Someone else could play. You could just sit. You're like one of those consoles

that the McDonald's. You just sit in a chair and kids play Sunshine with your nipples in your nose. The officer get ordered for bachelor parties, but you stop after you take off your shirt and then everyone starts playing plays Warrior were Mega party games speaking of nipples for hands or gamecubesure this. I'll do my best to not make this boring for the audio listeners, Hey, what the fuck are you doing? Not being video? Yes, video people, I have a dual sense edge. It is. Uh, it's the it's

the elite equivalent that it's PlayStation's first like quote unquote professional grade controller. Uh. Comes in a cool roundish like astro hard yep. Okay, what do you put that in a luggage and it's not going to get squish? Correct? Yeah, it's it's but it's got a little cool velcro flap so you can be charging it while it's in here. Nice. Um, But I don't know if you're looking at it, I guess describe it. It's just if you're looking at head on, it honestly looks like a dual sense except

there are two. You could see these two like kind of extra small like outcropping like yeah, nubs under the analog sticks. And you'll notice I have the PS three half dome analogs I swapped in. Those are the coolest part actually, So it's not super different from the Xbox Elite. But UI wise it is great because I have control layouts. It's got the two back buttons

here where your middle fingers are. Those can either be levers more like the Xbox Elite like that click, but I accidentally hit those a lot, and I prefer these, which are like half PS three analogs, and they're very satisfying and they're easier. So in games like I used a few examples um

Horizon for Bin West, Red Dead Redemption to Elden Ring. In games where you normally have to use the dpad to cycle through items, you could just put them there so you don't have to take your thumb off the analog during

boss fights or anything. You can swip, swept, swap incantations or spells in Elden That's what I do with the the I have the Elite for Xbox and for like Fortnite and stuff, I have it, so like I switch between weapons and stuff with those paddles and the super helps and so these nubs here though they both do the same thing, it's just oh shit, A my damn, am I out again. I'll continue for the audio listener, he's probably sounding fine. He doesn't sound fine here, h I'm gonna wait,

no, wait, you're coming back. You're going back, You're backs back. I'm going to continue for the audio listeners and for people in video. Yeah yeah yeah, but um, there's two of these nubs. They do the same thing, just depends on which thumb is free. You hold it, it brings up a menu. Each phase button is assigned to a specific profile that you saved. So I have one profile it's called dead Space. I have one profile that's Horizon. I have one profile it's elden Ring.

You could swap like in a matter of two, like a second immediately, so I jump into Warhammer Vermontide too. I'm like, oh right, I saved a specific analog sensitivity, a certain button layout. I'm going to switch to Vermintide. There's six different default analog sensitivities. You can fine tune

them. You could do dead zones, you could do actual you can change it shows you like the bar graph of how sensitive they are in the middle compared to when you first press end let go, so you can get really into it. If you're playing like Overwatch two semi professionally, I don't know why you'd be playing on console, but you could do it immediately, like I have Red Dead. I was just testing it out and I'm like,

oh, Red Dead would be a game. I want to change the analog sensitivity because that game can be kind of floaty in a lot of ways. That game just doesn't for as much as I love, it doesn't control all that well. So I use the steady analog sensitivity, that's what they call it. It's like you can aim smoothly but also quickly, so I don't

have to rely on the audio or auto aim. So it's it's cool, honestly, it's it's nice to be able to jump between these games, which on modern consoles it's super easy to jump between games, so now it's nice to be able to I was like, oh, I'm going to play a shooter game, so I'm going to go back to the default dual sense and just you pull them off like that and put it on and now you have

that analog. There a couple of main questions here, because I love my Xbox, I'll lead, Does it have the thing where you can adjust the throw of like L two and R two. Yes, the trigger stop there's two. You do a real quick pop up to shoot. But if it's like more of an analog racing game or something like that. Yeah, you can see if you're watching there's just two notched. His next game, there's

only three settings. That's what Yeah, I just had too. So for Vermintide a game where you're hacking and swinging a lot, or maybe if you're playing Skyrim when you kind of its fingerstrained and be swinging a saurdaton, you can raise the trigger stops so it's like clicking, it's only going down like a quarter inch inside the whole trigger pull. It's Red Dead game, a game where you're pulling triggers for like old school weapons. It kind of I

like keeping it the original, like all the way down. But yeah, that's there too. That does not you cannot save that to the profile because that's that's analogic flip. That's easy, just flip. The other one is my other question is um I just one of my favorite things and so simple about the Elite is just the weight. It just feels like less plastic e it's heavier. It just it feels feels legit. You know, the dual

sense dual sense has some weight to it. Um. Yeah, it feels the yeah heavy with good but the controller light the okay the Honestly, this reminds me of why the steam deck feels so much better than the switch. It doesn't feel as like flimsy. The edge feels a bit heavier. I like it. The only thing is visually. Oh. Also, the grip is different on the back where your middle fingers rest. It's a bit it's not as coarse. I kind of like it. But there it's like a

separate plate on the back instead of just one smooth thing. How much is it? Two hundred? To be clear, I got it sent from Sony. I wouldn't about this fight, didn't. I just like it's a novelty to have, and this is just like one of Polygons units. I just have it at the apartment. Now. That other difference is again I'm trying to describe this as well as I can. For audio, I've got the black dual sense here, it's more of the Matt Black where the PlayStation logo

button is between the analogs, the dual sense edge. It's like shiny now specifically because that's the plate you remove if you want to swap out the analog, The actual the base of each analog. Let me see if I can do that. I didn't realize that made different colors for the dual sense. I thought it was just the white one. They brought up the black, that blue, and now there's a maroon as well. Really, so you can take that off, you can take the plate off, and then you

can actually pull out the analog housing. I don't I won't do it right now. I don't have to. But which the main thing to do there is, or the main reason they do that is it's because like hey, joy or analog drift is a thing nowadays. So rather than buy a whole other two hundred dollars controller, just pay like I don't know, those are not included the replacements. It's like, just pay for whatever, like forty

bucks for the new one. I'm like, on the one hand, I guess it's nice to have that option, but also it kind of sucks because it's just like saying analog drifts like we can't fix it. It's a break. Yeah, So I was like, oh, come on, yeah. One thing that really annoys me about the elites. I've had two of them do this now is it's got the kind of rubber like feels good. It's

got the rubber textured grip. But I've had two Elites now, and maybe it's just because I use them all the time, but um, they flap out and they like they get disconnected and then like there's no good way to shove them back in. It's just like it's a lemogram. This one has not done it. But on the back here there's like a break basically here where the like rubber pad is, and then like it'll just like get loose and flappy. It's just like, well, okay, that's just like that

now, and I can shove it back in. You can't like hot glue it back in there. I could see that having there. Yeah, there is a similar ridge here. Um, I hope I do tell if that happens there. Yeah, I mean it's a wild for both elades that it didn't too. But yeah, I've gone I have like five elides. I mean it's it's largely a novelty for me as someone who's not like who doesn't

really get super care that much about like dead zone and whatnot. But like it is kind of fun to again jump into vermintied two, switch my triggers to the highest trigger style. I said everything audio listeners, I said everything I want to say my internet still messed up. Yeah, you're you're you're back, You're back. You don't go, don't for too long, and that's all your listeners should be. Right. I probably wouldn't say, I

probably wouldn't spend two hundred dollars on it. But I'm not playing like I don't again, I don't get into like dead zone stuff and too deep into it. It's just nice to have options for different games. Yeah, we're not doing competitive fucking fps or anything like that, but like, I just

like the weight. I do like the paddles. I use those sound mainly for Fortnaite, but I use it for Elden Ring two, So like b I mapped to one of those paddles, so like I can dodge and I can sprint, which is that kind of like back right pinky without without taking your thumb off the camera analyog exactly. Yeah. I did that with this too, eld and I find it very useful. Which yeah, I'm near the end of that again. So yeah, you guys been playing anything else?

Yeah? Yeah, Mari, what do you planned? Um, I'm playing this game called I'm probably not going to pronounce this right. I believe it's called moncage. It is a three D cube puzzler in the vein, would you burge anything? Um, turn, I'm picturing like a three D cube puzzler spirit than a cube. Let me think if this could be compared to I'm like trying to the Intelligent Cube Intelligent Cube for the PlayStation. Does that even mean? I don't think I played that. It's been it's a

cube puzzler. Oh okay, yes, yeah, I believe I believe you.

Okay. So the idea is like, you see a cube and you can move it around three D and in the first view, maybe there's I'm gonna make it up because I want to give away the puzzles, but there's a fire and then if you turn the cube, there's like a note and if you rotate the cubes that you can see both pictures pretty much, and you line it up just right, the fire will catch the thing on the other screen on fire, and then it will alter the images and progress the

puzzle. So is this superlative? Yeah? Yeah, but that was like it was like a two D thing, right, It was two D, but it was always about picture progression. Right, So you see something and you're like, I think I know what it's going on here, and you could like alter it so that you could progress the puzzle. This is very similar. It is about perspective. It's very perspective puzzle based um and sometimes it's even timing base, which is crazy because you have all the different sides

of the cube. So sometimes um, like maybe maybe they'll be like a marble on the top and you'll get it to fall, and then you have to line it up so that it falls perfectly on the side, and then you got to rotate it again so that it perfectly goes down this ramp and then like lands in a tunnel or something like that, and each of these pieces will progress the story. Maybe like that marble lands on a gas pedal, which makes a cargo and now you're in a different environment because you did

that. It's like a mc esure, what's the fucking Rube Goldberg device where it's like, oh, it's kind of game or something. You were right the first time. It sounds like a combination of both. Yeah, it's both. It's definitely visual puzzles and you are kind of connecting the dots to see the different types of puzzles. I've gotten stuck a couple of times, but they're well. I love about this game is that if you hit pause, they have a hint like aspect to it, and so there's a couple

times where I'm like, I literally don't know what to do. I've tried to get everything to line up, nothing's happening, and the hint will be like, looks like you need to light the lantern, and it's like, okay, okay, I can work with that, and doesn't tell you what

to do. It doesn't tell you what to line up. It just gives you a bit of a nudgee and if that still isn't enough, you can you can increase the hint, like it'll be like cool, so if you want to light the lantern, you're probably going to need to use the light source here. And then if that's not enough, it's like all right, dumb, dumb, and then it gives you like a really plain out hint at the end, so you don't really get stuck with it. I find

it very zen and calming. I've really enjoyed it. I actually streamed this game, and then usually when I stream a game, I don't always continue it. Sometimes I just I move on. I've played it for three to five hours and that's enough for me. But this game, I played it again in Florida. I played it a significant amount. I'm probably pretty close to finishing it just with how many hours I put into it. I think it's cool. I think it's a really calming experience if you like If you

liked Gorgo, I think you would like this. It's also got secrets littered throughout it, so you can find little photos that are hidden in the space and they give you extra lore. But I think the interesting mechanic of it is that real joyous feeling you get when you perfectly aligned two pieces and then they animate together and you find out that you can switch scenes or move things around. I also think there's a couple puzzles that I've found to be very

thoughtful. It's hard for me to explain them without giving them away, but there was a couple that worked with mirrors that is more than just lining things up. It's about thinking about what things look like upside down because of the mirror, because of the reflection, and then using the reflection to your advantage when you're sinking things up and moving something along. And so it's more thoughtful

than just just lining up two items. That's cool because like I feel like I've done a billion Zelda puzzles where I'm like pushing a mirror around to like reflect light. But I'm like, as far as like this going into this in the perspective of like what's upside down or like that sounds a little more in depth. Yeah, And it's also neat to see different items and how they might connect together. So, for example, the marble concept, maybe

it goes down a pipe. So they'll be like a pipe in a building, and you'll be like, oh, that that Marble could go down that pipe, But then you realize the pipe would perfectly match a child's like playground ladder, and so the Marble goes down this pipe from a building and then matches with a child's like playground slide, and then the Marble goes down the slide and you're like, actually, that slide matches this train track, and so now the Marble goes down the train track. So you kind of you

kind of start to like detect all these different components to it. It's very simple in nature, but it does get complicated. I don't think this is like a super easy game, but I also I wouldn't say, it's hardy there, you just kind of like you should kind of go through the motion with it. I find it very zen. I found it very relaxing. I enjoyed it very much. This game came out in twenty twenty one.

I don't know why what made me. I've been doing this a lot where I like, I kind of go through different like I go down like a Steam rabbit hole when I'm in a lull. You guys know it's a lull, right, there's not a lot going on right now. I will on a Monday when I'm streaming, I will go on Steam and I'll be like, here's games that I like, and Steam will be like, here's sixteen games, and some of them are totally not my style. But every once in a while I'll see a game and I'll be like, I would play

that. I play that shit anyway. That's how I found Monkage. I think it's great nice. Yeah, that sounds cool. I like those kind of like perspective based puzzle games. Like that sounds fun. Yeah. Actually, oddly enough, my favorite puzzles in or my favorite side activity and Horizon

Forbidden West is lining up. Have you guys done those or when you play the game, you gotta you get this little transmission that shows a like hologram projected in front of you of a forced perspective of the landscape, and you've got to find the exact point in the landscape where like that satellite dish in the distance and that mountain closer to you and that bush next to you line

up. Those are really fun. I like Fight Night round three where you get knocked out and you look at the referee and there's two hazy versions and you got to make them go over each other before you can stand up. Yeah, exact same. Yeah. It reminds me. I saw a photo once of a person who had the tobler own package and he lined it up perfectly with the actual mountain that the tobone, you know, and he was just like, ah, I made it. People doing the leaning tower of

piz Oh. Yeah. Speaking of Fight Night round three, Yeah, how's punch out going? Yeah? Just I figured this might be a regular recurring segment here where I just let you know my current status. I don't need a wax nostalgic about a punch out every time. But what's your number? Dad? Right? Launch chime? I was at thirty nine minutes, twenty six seconds and forty three milliseconds or whatever, So about forty minutes, and I think I was around sixty seven sixty eight in the world last time.

I shaved fucking eight minutes over eight minutes off that. I said a personal best last night, and I said a personal best this morning shaving it down. Oh wait, no, that update is out of date now, Holy shit. I wrote down an update that was thirty one ten. No, this morning I got fucking twenty eight oh one. So I am sub thirty now I'm it's up thirty. The world record is like fourteen fifty five forty minutes fifty five and what's years again, twenty I'm at twenty eight minutes now

twenty eight o one, So that's a huge difference. Oh my god. Yeah, there's there's ship. But I'm learning all the time and I'm doing great. What was I gonna say? I'm sixty fourth in the world now, So sixty fourth in the world of punch out. My next goal is I want to hit under the time. I want to be in the top fifty, and eventually longer term goal, I want to get a sub twenty minute time and that would put me in a good spot. Is there a

world in which you're ever top ten? That seems crazy right now, But with the fucking progress I've made this month, I'm not going to say anything's impossible, because it's fucking crazy how much I've learned this month. And I mean shaving off ten minutes. When we're talking about like how much that means in the speed run community, I will see I got a lot of work to do, a lot of work to do this long term in the like

most defining moments of your life. I guess here to four. If you were hypothetically to become the number one Mike Tyson speed Mike Tysons punch Out speed runner in the world, where would that rank in your achievements in life? Honestly, that would be above you know I did the two top ten? Would it be top ten achievements of your life achievements? Achievements? Is that different than like big like you know, I think about like getting married and

stuff. No, it doesn't have to be like a life milestone. You can can give you the same list Mike Tyson's punch Out top ten stuff you have worked for that you then accomplished. Where would it rank it can be

getting hard work, accomplishing type stuff. Fuck I mean in terms of just difficulty in practice required, Like I was never a kid who played a lot of sports or anything like I would have to think this would be number one, because I remember in twenty twelve they said, in twenty eleven they sent me the Guinness Book World Records, the Gamers edition when I was a Game Informer, and I was like, I am making it my goal to win a Guinness World Record, and I wound up winning two of them, but

they were both because I would see the speed run records and be like I kind of like flirted with it. I looked at like link for the past and everything. They're like, this is just impossible. There's no fun way. And so I did the marathon stuff like Okay, I can sit around with my friends for thirty hours for fifty hours, and I did that, but that's just sitting around. I wasn't really doing a lot of work.

I just it was a stamina thing. This is the first time it's like, this is pure skill and focus in response time, and like, this is about the most challenging thing I think I've ever done in my life in terms of like working towards something and getting better incrementally at it, and god damn it, it feels good every time you get better and seeing myself kind of just even just one or two or even sometimes I'll get a new personal best and it's not enough to even move me up the ranks one but twenty

seconds better it. If I was able to get into that top tier, that would be yeah, top top accomplishments my life in terms of, like I get not talking life events, getting married, stuff like that, but like it's just accomplishments. I would say maybe number one. I'm so glad, Like I mean, if you did have kids, I knew you were just like son, Yeah, you are right behind getting in the top ten. He would. If I had a kid, it'd be like never one

regret. I think, like I'm talking things I like, I would hate my kid. But you can't say that. You gotta be like, oh he's great, Oh he's a little scampy. Like no, I'd be like fuck you run. In my life, I used to sit around and play video games and say four more. Yeah, fuck this kid. I would hate that. Bunch out just universally positive. What okay, So you're at twenty nine plus twenty twenty minutes twenty eight minutes is shaving off more time.

Obviously it's a matter of skill, But are there other Are there like tricks that you still have not learned yet or is it just literally a matter of combination of the perfect run and skill slash reaction time. There are a lot of tricks that are just insane. They're not even really tricks. Like if you look at like the thing for like Don Flamenco two, it's like, I can do it at this point where I've gotten a few round one tkos

and that's a huge deal for me. But if I want to go crazy with it, it's like, okay, so if you were holding a star here, you get a one sixteenth, one out of sixteen chance for a star punch every seventh punch when you do this or whatever. But then if he gets up and he gets a medium health refilled, then that alters your strategy and so you have to like have different strategies refill. They get it's fucking insane. But in terms of just like the base level speed running tactics,

I'm getting there. I need to be able to be ticon round one. I've never done that. I've never been ticon round one. That is a major milestone I need to cover. Mister Saman's the only other one I've not beaten Round one. I can beat everyone else round one. Once I can get ticonto mister Samman down around one. That'll help a lot. I had a breakthrough today with Don Flamenco two. That's gonna help me get around

one a lot. I had one of the best speed runners in the world coaching me last night on my stream, and now I got great Tiger down. I got the Greater Tiger method where you can knock them down with star punches, and I learned how to farm star punches off him. There's this well goes fucking deep, and if you're watching it, and I have a lot of people joining my stream and just watching, like, oh, you're

just punching or whatever. The amount of bullshit I am doing every fucking time, between buffering punches and guard manipulation and all this fucking crazy shit and things, you have to pay attention to that well, like for a game that was made in the fucking late mid eighties or whatever, it is so deep, but it's insane. But as a lot of this by the developers intended people to learn this, or it's a result of the code, that's just

how it worked, the way they put it together. I haven't looked like deep into it, but I've heard people mention that like they wanted it to be kind of like a boxing match where it's like you can do guard manipulation. So like, let's say, okay, so here's the classic guard manipulation. So the first time you fight Piston Honda, when he comes down,

he will guard low. But as he's coming down to fight you, if you hold up, you will manipulate his guard because he thinks you're gonna hit up, so he'll bring his fists up and then you can get some gut punches in and then you can get star punches. So it's kind of like trying to emulate like, oh, if somebody looks like they're gonna hit you in the face, they're gonna guard their face. If they look like they're

growing for body blow, they'll guard their stomach. So this is very basic anys stuff or whatever, but like it is them trying to emulate that. But I've heard that I don't know the development history, but like it seems like a great deal of thought went into this game's development. Is there I actually have that I haven't read much about his develop Is there a lot of party as? Just like this was before they knew speed running was even a

thing. It's not like they considered it. They're just making a fun boxing game. But like you know, I mean, is there a lot of Is there much reporting on its development or is it still No? I don't. I don't really look up, Like I don't know a lot of development stuff and I just see people say stuff in the chat or whatever. It's I think it's a perfect fucking video game, and I think it's the most

perfectly aged video game of all time. That I've played this game my entire fucking life, and I'm having more fun with it now then damn near any game I've I'm having more of an adrenaline rush and more feelings of personal accomplishment

playing this game than a video game has ever made me feel. And I've been playing this since I was a fucking five year old or whatever, Like it's insane, Like I hook up, I do a heart rate thing through my Apple Watch when I get to a Tyson thing, because like that's the thing, Like you can have the best fucking run of the world. But if Tyson kicks your ass, it doesn't count. You can't put it through.

So I will. Literally before the Tyson fight last night, my heart rate was over one hundred and forty one fucking getting ready for Tyson, just because it's like, holy shit, I've got a good run. This is a personal best. If I'd just be Tyson and around two, then I got a personal best. But no game gets me that fucking jacked up. It's amazing. Is I'm getting exists. He's getting jacked up just talking about it. So good. So it's but it's no fort Spoken. Oh nice,

Let's let's discuss this force Spoke. Have you played Spoken yet? I haven't, but I've been reading all the controversies online and I am enjoying that. Oh boy, it's this It might have you played it? No, then this will be short because I literally played like fifteen I've known for a while it's just fifteen minutes. Well I was so just turned off, but as fuck this thing. Yeah, before you say that, I will say it seems like some people are enjoying it for kind of like a lity.

Threes out of one hundred on critic yeah, I just don't. It is so it seems at face value to me such like such triple a game design fodder that I have no interest in it. And here's the thing, as someone who's only played fifteen twenty minutes, but I certainly cannot go into like the open world or I didn't even get to the fucking fantasy dragons y or whatever. We made fun of the trailer, which is a really bad trailer, and the tone of that is pervasive throughout the fifteen or twil like it's

really bad dialogue, really awkwardly delivered. But um, the thing that I want to bring it up for was I read Austin Walker's piece on this.

Did you guys see this? Yeah? I read it too too, Yeah yeah, And so I read it and Austin again, he put it much more eloquently than I'll describe it here, but he was basically saying that, like this snarky Marvel bullshit writing, like if these characters in this world aren't taking any of it seriously, then why are we as the person playing it's supposed to like if the writers are making fun of like, oh, hey, okay, so I'm fighting dragons and you're like a queen and you're speaking

poem. But why like they are trying to be like, yeah, we know it's stupid, so why the fuck are we supposed to care about it? And maybe but then why did it work on High on Life? Well, I'm serious before before we get into like the weirdness of that, like you like you don't have to touch on that High on Life completely made fun of itself and we've and you played it and you liked it originally, Um, I played it. I haven't played it since the last time we talked

about it. No, no, no, And I'm not going to get into that part. But what I'm saying is is, yeah, yeah, Like that's totally separate the my point, which is that that game was self aware and was making fun of itself the whole time, and that was acceptable to you. I don't think I was saying I liked the stuff. I think I was more into the action and like the gun play and stuff like I maybe I'm wrong. I always forget what we're saying immediately, But like,

what was I saying I liked the like stuff working? Because like I don't necessarily like this. You accepted it were tutorial and the game in spite of it. Yeah, I do remember kind of enjoying that. I think this is more than pushing you to see like where I understand, Like I agree the dialogue is like pretty whack, but like, is it because the gameplay can't make up for it? Like is that why I would think it's more because like High on Life, it seems like it it presented itself as

a silly, comedy, gross out game. You know, it was certainly not trying to be anything serious, and like this one started trying to be. This one starts with like, oh, this girl's down on her luck in New York City and el she's got is her her cat, and you know this gang is like, you know, trying to pressure in to steal a car. Like it seems like it's it's not a comedy game, you

know what I mean. So it's like I think the fact that it's trying to like be somewhat of a serious story where it's High in Life is like this is the game where the gun takes a shit or whatever. Like I think I think that's the difference to me where it's like I didn't necessarily love the self aware like oh, the tutorials bad or whatever in high in Life, But like I didn't bother me as much, I think, And again I don't want to be mister high in life depender. I played at that

one time and did not mind it. I thought it was fine. It was better than I expect. But this one, this is trying to like tell a story. Like you're in court and you know, you're in court for felony theft, and like for some reason they've laid out all these photos from your life and all this stuff and you're talking about the judge about your shitty life or whatever, and it's just like but then from the clips I've saying and everything, I didn't get back to the like oh, you know,

you're traveling back in time to dragons and shit like that. It's a lot of just snarky like, Okay, so I'm talking to a magic cuff and you're speaking in poems and blah blah blah. It's like I think about in metal you're solid if solids Snake was like solid at snake. Huh what a dumb Oh So you're the president and you're my clone brother whack off motion. You know, it's like I would like, why would I give a

shit about that story if the characters don't give a shit about it. Like, that's why I like the Austin's blog post a lot, is because it's just like you're making like a mockery of this universe that you're trying to present to people, you know, Right, It's like it's like a friend who

only uses self deprecating humor. It's like it can be it can be effective when deployed, you know, in moderation tastefully, but if you do it too much, it's like if you hate yourself this much, then it starts to like sink it, Like I'm going to start to actually dislike you and think these things are true, right, or it's like yeah, like a person who just like has low self esteem, right, and you're just like, well maybe you do suck y. Yeah, now I'm just concerned for

you. Yeah. Maybe that is like kind of what's happening at some point is that the writers were writing this cheeky dialogue being like, you know, I don't know if this game is going to be any good at all, and it actually kind of rubbed off into the way that we see the game because we're like the writers didn't really think this game was any good, I guess did they. Have you seen the clips people were posting of like the

bad dialogue example, it's seen a couple. It's great, it's grating, But I will also say there are some passages in God of War Ragnarok that are not that much worse. I think it's good to compare it to other ones because this game's getting so much shit. And I agree with you.

There was lots of like awkward, uh dialogue in Gotta War Ragnarok. But Gotta War Ragnarok did take itself really seriously when it talked about the dad and like boy dynamic, Like it was very it was a very serious dynamic about whether or not like they were going to be okay and what happens to like the fear of losing a son or a father and things like that. This game, I don't know at any point it felt like she could have she could have like woken up on a futon and been like it was all a

dream. Like it just never felt like it was actually invested. Well, if somebody actually if you get transported back to crazy Magic Dragon Times or whatever, you'd just be like, what the fuck is going on? Oh my god, what the fuck like I would just heard what is this dragon? Would you like? Mister Game of Thrones? All right, shut up, I like I want to like. This is just purely for me, you and Mary. But the voice you're doing with forre spoken is a very specific

person that you mock and it's really annoying me. Wait, thinking of this person you use that same voice. This is terrible radio. I know this. I'm so sorry. No, no, but let's let's let's let's keep this going. Give me some hints. Well no, so I give you too many hits. That person might figure it out if they listen to this someone we all know. Yeah, there's one I'm thinking of you you're doing the voice. I'm trying to figure out a hint that would not I'll tell

you after. I know people, I'm so different Terribordio. You should you should know it'll click. I think I know. Yeah, that was the worst bit for the show ever. It's not a bit um, but it actually is like braiding me because you use that voice and it makes reminds me of this person that I love. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't loathe anybody else. Well a couple of people, um, yeah, I don't have any attention of the I love term my TV,

I don't have any intention of playing it. I like the aspects of it that seemed like Infamous Infamous three E. I'm like, Okay, that looks super fun, but apparently that combat doesn't even get that fun until pretty far in. That's what I hear. I love good mobility and an open world and I can look bast a lot of stuff if it's got that.

But it's just like, man, I like, I can't even handle fucking Spider Man half the time where he's just being snarky flying around like it's just like, let's like I hate just that marble snark and like that marble humor and it's god damn it. It's so pervasive now and like you said, even it got a word Ragnarock. So I'm climbing around a magical force that I met another giant and I'm it's fuck yeah, it takes seriously Yeah if

I if he doesn't count, I should make every game. Well. Yeah, Metal Gear broke the fourth wall in more like a melodrama way press the action button, but it took itself seriously generally, didn't this story did? Yeah? Like when when something shitty happened, Solid Snake or Big Boss was like, oh fuck, you know, like they weren't like, okay, Solid is, I'm fighting my elderly twin brother on top of the looks badass sword fight him on top of the US Treasury building. It's cool, serious

storytelling, very serious. It's all Deadpool humor. I'm we seen a second of Deadpool, but everything I've heard about it, it sounds like that is like the prototype of like, yeah, okay, he's like up to turn up to eleven, but yeah, um he he's supposed to be so self aware that it's funny again. He's making fun of Marvel, making fun of the family guy thing where it's going on so long it got funny again and then it got boring. It's more like him pointing out how dumb Marvel pointing

out how dumb it is is. I don't need that. I don't need that, Like I don't think you like meta whatever, like it's not clever, yeah lazy. Um yeah. Well I should also point out we're recording the day that Hi Fi Rush Surprise released after the Xbox event, the new Tango game work game that looks like Sunset Overdrive meets jet Set Radio but with Nine Inch Nails music. Did you see this today? No? I got a code for it and I redeemed it and I heard people. Yeah,

it was the Xbox Bethesza event. Shinji Bakami showed up Tango game work. They made well obviously Shinji Bakami of Resuvable fame, but then they made Evil Within, so people are like, oh, Evil Within three maybe, but then sorry, it's Tango U Ghost Wire Tokyo yes, okay, okay um. So they also were like, okay, well now, um we're gonna show this new thing. And it's basically like Sunset Overdrive movement okay, and like grinding around on stuff. But it looks like jet Set Radio almost,

but there's also Nine Inch Nails music in it. It looks like who knows, maybe like I intend on playing it if not after this recording then tomorrow, but actual Nine Inch Nails music or like inspire almost positive, it's actual, And you know, I really like Sunset Overdriving. It feel like it's kind of just played it agout. I just played every single game pass. Yeah, it's still really fun, good game. The humor there, though, is it's Marvel Humor. But but yeah, it has a really good

gameplay mechanic and loop um and travel is really fun. Yeah. A lot of grinding around on rails and power lines and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's high rash Insomniac. Did they make sense? Yeah, they give us fun Xbox One launch game. Um right, yes so and then also tomorrow, as of this record, last Thursday, the twenty sixth hit Man Freelancer Mode comes out. Still confused about what it is, but I'm excited. It was trying so for my understanding, and I think it's live right now.

Technically I might play that after. My understanding is they took nineteen locations across the trilogy because I think to prepare for this, they made if you wrote an assassination. If you go by to Hitman three now on marketplaces, it's just all three games bundled into one. If you already owned Hitman three, I think you got the first two games unlocked. I might be messing

some of that, but that's the gist of it. But from what I understand it, Freelancer Mode, they took nineteen locations as of now for the time being, and your ultimate goal across a run is to or over time, is to kill four elite targets. But in order to you you do not have the backing of the whatever the organization is, the CIASH organization that gives you intel, gives you baseline supplies. You're on your own. You're

this freelancer, hence the title. So in order to get the locations, like where are they even, what map they're even on those four elite people, to figure out what part of the map they're out, and which disguise would get you there and which weapon might help you, you need to first in like a sort of mercenaries esque way, like take out very low rung people on other sort of that's what you reminded me of. So you're taking out like lower rung targets, well a, you're figuring out who those targets

even are. Like it's like Berlin style map across a bunch and I haven't played it yet, but based on I was reading the website today and the press release, it sounds like you're like slowly building up your arsenal, Like I don't know if you even have the piano wire at the very beginning. So you're like, oh shit, okay, I got the location of one of the elite people. But they are deep in the labs on Sapienza. So where can I get a hazmat suit? Oh? Right, they have

one on Colorado. And this is you can't You can't just go to Sapienza and get it. That's where I'm confused. I'm like, well, if you figure out where they are, couldn't you get it? So I think they're doing some like what's what's the term randomizer to Okay, But again I could be watching a lot of this, but I know it involves nineteen A locations across the trilogy, and you are like taking out like almost Shadow of Mordorish, like taking out thugs first to work your way up to high profile

targets. But you're coming back between missions and I don't know how the roguelike expect kicks and like if you are to die at once in a mission, do you lose everything? It sounds like you lose a lot if you do, and there's like risk rewards stuff. So in theory, it sounds awesome, but I haven't touched it yet. Um I plan on it, and it's a free update. I want to try this. Yeah, it sounds

awesome. Like it's funny too, because I mean, Mary, you've been playing a lot of Hitman recently, and it's in the time when roguelikes are just very good most of the time now, or at least like, sorry, I shouldn't say that, but like, rouguelikes are this force. I always like, yeah, and I'm very addictive. There's no feeling like the feeling that you are in a run that's taken you hours and at any second

you could fucking lose it all. But hit Hitman specifically, like playing through those games, I've always thought, or at least since Hitman two three, I'm like, oh, man, this would work well as a roguelike. So now doing that, and I'm very curious how it's gonna work. Um, I don't know if it's live at midnight or what, but I want to try that a sap. I'm gonna play it tomorrow for sure. That sends what you should talk about that next time. Yeah, so that if

I rush I want to try. Both are free if you have game Pass or sorry. Hitman is free if you own the game Hi Fi. Rush is free if you have game Pass. Yeah. So Xbox has certain like visual options and upgrades, but the one does not have online multiplayer, which I would have like online multiplayer but split screen like shitty ate. Yeah I would. Yeah, it's still crazy that that's finally getting added to um Rare Replay now. Yeah, I think that's cool. I'll play it on an

Xbox just to get the chimns in Golden Eye. That sounds fun to me. That was fun, um watching you play on double O seven difficulty. Yeah, another Friday. Yeah, yeah thing. Yeah, that's the only time I've ever done it that way. Yeah, that was fun. But yeah, so I'll play those two games before then. And then there's actually kind of a bunch of like medium profile stuff on the horizon. There's Atomic

Heart that like military shooter set in like a Soviet city. There's Wild Hearts coming up that's like EA Omega the developer Omega and published by EA, their take on Monster Hunter but Japanese like Beautiful Japan. Um. There is deliver Us Mars, which I think is a sequel um It's like open world puzzle like they're describing it like tomb Rader on Mars, but based on what I've seen it doesn't. I'm not optimistic about it. And there's one more thing.

It's tomb Rader proper been dead for a while. Was that last one, Shadowed the tomb Rader, Yeah, two thousand and nineteen. I feel like I feel like it's been ten years since I've experienced the fun of a of an old school tomb Raider. I want to Yeah, I really like Rise, the second one. I think that was the one. I liked the reboot and I liked Rise. I don't know if I've played the role of Shadow Shadow Shadow went really hard on like, oh, we need big

hub areas. I was like, it's like, that's not what I was playing these two. There are these games, Um yeah, but yeah, so we'll have those to talk about next episode. Nice. I think that's is that all the games? Anything else? Guys? What I touch on cool sounds any game very lightly And I'm probably gonna butcher the way you say the name, but I think it's called Chia. You play a lot of games that are like not immediately pronounced pronounceable, I know, and that's terrible

for me. So uh huh, all right, um, it's early. I think it's alpha. This game is uh a kind of an open world physics sandbox game right where you can like run around. But what's cool about it is that you can put your soul into shit. So you can like see a turtle on the beach. You could be like soul and then you could like be the turtle. And you could see like a chair and you could be like soul and then you could be the chair. Is this I

remember that game Everything? Oh yeah, where you could be like I'm the shark, I'm the tree, I'm the planet, I'm everything. Right, that was a gimmick there, right. This does have that similar gimmick.

I forgot about that. This game has, Like I think it's like I think it's loosely like trying to be uh well, I don't think it's trying to be I think it's it is loosely based off of like either the people who made this game like grew up in an environment like this, and so it's not literally based on these same people, but it is heavily inspired by these people. So you were like an island kid, you're definitely like learning

from the island people. You're learning from the land. I thought it was interesting and one of like this scenes, one of the people on the island was playing music and you play along and it gives you these like little blurbs to when to play music. And then it had this sign that goes, you know, you can try and play it on the beat, but you also cannot because it's music, so like you know, go go nuts. And I was just like playing my little bongas as I wanted to, because

that's true. Like it's such a funny little anecdote, which was just like it's music, so like you know, you can't really go wrong, so just enjoy yourself, bud. And I was like playing music and enjoying learning from these like different people that I was meeting on the island. Um. It's very cute concept, but it's very early, so you know, there's like some bugs. Not everything worked the way. It needs to cook a

little longer. But I like the idea of it, not just the soul swap, but of kind of being a little scamp on an island and learning from island people and they're they're different, you know worldviews. Also, there's just a lot in the game, um boating, climbing, Um, you can pare, you have a glider, which I think is fun, swim and collect items. There's a lot to do. Yeah, I've been a scamp on an island with a glider. The sounds glider. Yeah, the

climbing with a with a limit. Right. It even has like I think a circle of like how long you can climb, same thing for how long you can swim and be underwater? For everything you can? Now when did they show this? Was it like an epic game showcase or something? But it definitely was showcased early. But I think it needs more time in the oven, Like there's no question that it's not ready. But like I enjoyed my alpha playthroom, So that's all I have to say about it. I'm

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of my tongue. No you can, I don't. I think I just like ever, like you didn't realize you saw something, but you did, and you're trying to look around where you saw it, like a sign on the highway. Anyway, Firescape cast at gmail dot com. You can write into fire Escape Pass at gmail dot com. Questions comments can earns corrections the ladder of which I never read, but I do want to hear them about our conversation about Egypt and as it relates to uh, Greece in Rome and

Cleopatra with the snake care know each other? Yeah? Were they the same time? Quite a long overlap? Yep? Okay? Were they at war several times? Yeah? They butted heads? Who is the Rome guy? If Caesar was Grease, who was a Greek guy. I don't know. I mean there were a lot of Caesar's Spartacus. Uh no, I think Spartacus is fictional. Oh real? Uh fire Escape cast at gmail dot com. We have from about Lincoln. What was he doing? Background? Okay,

you brought up a president. We know who you really want to talk about. That's your trojan horse into talking about Lincoln. Nice, all right, get to it. Okay, she's not gonna talk about Nick all right. First one from Bianca. Uh yeah, okay. This one doesn't say hello, it just gets right into it. It makes more sense now that Dennis told us she's I read this before Dan told us what he was doing over the weekend from Bianca. When Dan returned home, he described the sounds

he heard at night as hyenas and coyotes. He was surprised to learn that he Anda's aren't typically found in New York or North America in general, this hemisphere. I don't think. He continued to tell me about the church Cheetah Bianca. I'm pretty sure hyenas are specifically Africa. I didn't know that. Now I'm curious. I mean, I know they're at least Africa, where are hyenas? I was in a cabin laugh it was late, and I heard crazy. It sounded like monkeys at or in a Planet Earth episode or

something. But I knew it couldn't be monkeys, because that'd be ridiculous. There's not monkeys just running around. The catskills and you know. So I went out there and it was just crazy, just like what he said, the same sounds, and I was like, oh fuck, there's like some warring packs of hyenas in the middle of the night and the catskills here. And I was like, but so I just mentioned it's like, oh yeah, it was like hyenas or coyotes or something or Bob gats. I don't

know what the bucket is. And then she laughed at the hyena's part, and apparently, to my knowledge based on her laughter, hyenas are not found here, correct, correct, not in the western hemisphere at all. Okay, I was right in Africa, but they can also go toward India, okay. And so the church Cheetah, I just kind of realized that I don't really know, there's like a class of animal. I don't think I

understand. This came up today I was recording a demodist thing with Jeff Grubb and they were showing a raccoon at a live action rack, and I didn't know. I called it like a hyena or a cheetah or something like. I think just animals that have pointy ears and run around the four legs and have tails. I get confused if they're not like housecats. And so the church cheetah thing, raccoon, it's not a cat, that's the thing.

I don't know. I don't know what's what. Actually, if you police line up all I can point it out, like that's a raccoon, the church cheetah. I was reviewing Modern Warfare three, uh, the you know old one, and so Game in Forma. I got flown out to fucking some press event things, so I was the only one who got to see it, so no one a Game in Former could like fact check me on this. But I was talking about how crazy the campaign was, and I was like, yeah, it's typical over the top call of duty stuff or

whatever. Like. At one point I was in a church and I got attacked by a cheetah and I had to shoot it in the head. A bunch of times. There was like a quick time event where had to shoot this cheetah on the head a bunch of times. And I wrote that in the review and it went to the proof reading process and Joe Juba was like me, Dan, are you sure that it was the cheetah? And I was like, yeah, like a cheetah like burst in the church door and

you gotta like blow his brains out. And he's like, it's cheetah and it's like aggressively like attacking you and stuff like yeah, I think so, and he just kept questioning me. I don't know why he thought that was impossible. I would imagine a cheat that could attack something. Um, but it was about to go to print and then Joji but I don't know if he like contacted activision or whatever he wanted to pack check it. It turns out it was a hyena, And so I confused a hyena and a cheetah.

Well, have you seen the Lion King? Yeahs are those like evil twins that are like Hyena's laugh, I get that, but like Hyena's cheetahs, wolves, coyotes, big dogs, some cats like panthers, yeah, bobcats, Yeah, I don't I can't tell all those apart I'm not get that. I know, boon, I don't know what the fuck like I confronted with this, No, yeah, I'm not an expert. I definitely still would have laughed along with Bianco and you said hyenas specifically, because hyenas's

impossible. Is it impossible that I was in the catskills and there were some gangs of hyenas fighting. I'm pretty sure it's impossible. Like I can't imagine literally impossible, well not literally situation where they drop in a bunch of hyenas, but it would be it wouldn't be found here. Yeah, if someone's parachuting families of hyenas into the catskills, then it's not impossible. But but

that's artificial. Yeah, what's the naturally what if in Pangaea Days, if a bunch of hyenas, No, I get where you're going here, that happened, That's happened with a lot of animals, But like, if they were small enough numbers, they would have died off by now. So maybe they were true like six hyenas and the Pangaea Days were like let's go northwest

here and they wound up on this continent. It's possible they've just been roving around right well, and again that depends on again Pangaea days that they would have if they didn't survive the environment, they wouldn't have evolved to survive, and they die out and be extinct. Who knows, really tough though, I don't know enough to refute this, but it sounds wrong. So it's unlikely but not impossible that I heard about jo hyena's last night. Um,

I don't know. Let me. It's sounded fucking crazy. It's coyotes, man, They're fucking weird kyotes howling. This was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, coyotes do like these high pitched barks. They they're dogs, many they're wild dogs. How big are there? Are they like like horses? Like? No, no, are you an elden ring? I was thrown off because I set the thing forever going giant bomb where I said I could beat a wolf in a fight.

You know me, wolves were like a billion times bigger than I thought, So maybe I'm off wolves big, but they're not as big as horses, but they are big. Hyenas are like I'm trying to think of a domestic dog that size. Are they bigger than cats. Yeah, well domestic housecats. Yeah, but the animals can be sucked up looking like copies. You like, they're shaped, but from what I would compare the size of a coyote the size of a fox. No, little, there's maybe a little

little bigger, probably a little. Boxes are tiny. I've seen foxes in my backyard. Yeah, true, No, foxes are small, bigger than bigger than a fox, but smaller than a wolf. What about a dog? What about like my like razors gizmo, bigger than a coyote? No, no, no, no, no, okay, no coyotes. I'm trying to think of a domestic dog. Tokyotes are probably like labrador size.

I've seen them several times. They're not. They can be small though, because if they don't like eat a lot, they're skinny little shits and they're just eating. Oh Dan, okay, Dan here, actually googled it. They'll eat your cats. That's what they do. Everybody who knows if your cat gets out and you don't see it. No more. This is actually really funny, Dan, look up hyen is. When you get the chance. They are odd looking. They have like maple leaf shaped years. Okay.

North America used this is a headline from Smithsonian maag dot com, So you know it's official. North America used to have its very own hyena. These giggly beasts didn't just roam Africa in the Middle East. They were right here in our backyard. But this was the as recently as the Plio scene era. When was that? The fucking pictures hyena? I need scale though, Put me a hyena next to a fucking quarter or something like hyena first scale. Okay, I really have no sense of how big they are.

Oh wait, ear scale? What the fuck? No, they're huge? Are they really? Oh? My god? Picture? Okay, they lived in the North America until the early plant plus the scene when was that? Freak? Wolves have been considered the likeliest explanation for sightings of modern America hyenas. How big a hyena is? How big are hyena? You're gonna have a bunch of weird scale photos here. This one makes them fifty nine inches Jesus hyena versus wolf size. The hyena and the wolf are very similar in

terms of their size. Okay, they're huge, they are large. They can weigh up to one hundred and ninety pounds, But those are that's like not normal. I spotted hyena. Spotted hyenas are smaller. I went to a wolf kill. No, no, no, no, no no sorry. We were talking about coyotes northwest, and they are. We were talking about the size of coyotes though, let me look at it yet fox sized they were. Now we're talking about most adults are about forty eight sixty inches

long. Okay, Well, these kids, like if I if a coyote was in my backyard, hey, get out of here. Would it kill me? No? They're pretty skittish. From everything I understand. They kill they can. I have a friend whose house gat got killed by a coyote. But they wouldn't. They'd run away from me. They wouldn't, just fairly, I think, so I wouldn't test it. But yeah, three feet long, two feet tall, that's not that big. Okay, So coyotes are kind of tiny, Like you could probably beat a coyote in a

fight. I could be wrong, I don't know. But a wolf no, no, not wolves ever since I saw pictures of wolves there. But also there's always like seven wolves. It's not never just one. That's right, ring fuck that wolf pack? Oh uh, thank you bianca Um again Fireskift cast at gmail dot com for corrections that I will routinely. I have. I have a filter that sees the word correction and then just puts in the trash. It's just the word, actually, and it just filters out.

It's the word Mike, idiot, completely misleading. I heard you say this filter trash immediately fum. All right, thank you, Bank Church Cheetahs. You can't prove it was bob Ba. I'm going to read this one because this one I just put in completely selfishly, because it's kind of a suite. I don't know if you guys remember I talked about Gus and I at the Polar Bears at the Central Park Zoo that I saw when I was nine, and then also when I came back when I was twelve, I

got an email about that. I also said both of them died. But anyway, good evening, Fire Escape Crew. First, you were a great listen for my long commutes, and I love your banter. Thank you. Second, my wife and I are lifelong zookeepers, and not only was I thrilled to hear you speak so positively about zoos, but Mike also mentioned Gus and Ida at the Central Park Zoo. My wife and I met while working

at the Central Park Zoo and both were there when they passed away. The outpouring of compassion from the community at the time was amazing to see as many people sent or brought flowers and we left them outside their habitat at the zoo. It is entirely possible that one of the days Mike saw them at the

zoo playing with their toys. They were put into the exhibit by my wife, and that it is and has always been our mission to not only educate and bring joy to the public, but give the best possible care and enrich these animals lives as best we can. We are now zoo keepers living in New Orleans. I would love to see your show. Make it down this way. Keep up the good work, too, lifelong zookeepers. Oh my

god, God, I love New Orleans. I'll be at the New Orleans Zoo in May if you happen to be working in the New Orleans Zoo. I've been there before. It's a great zoo. It's awesome and there for a honeymoon. Why are you zoo? It's my fifth trip to New Orleans. I just love it and we've got some friends together and we're going to do a New Orleans trip and one of the days we're talking about doing a zoo thing the awesome Yeah right in again. Please if hey we get to

hang out as animals and take some like that, that sounds great. Uh yeah, May Memorial Day weekend, I'll be in the and yeah, that sounds awesome. Yeah, that's crazy that I was there at the same time. I remember Gussneida miss him. Um oh well, thank you. Good to the zoo zoos I've been. I love New Orleans as well. I have so many good memories there, but I don't think I've ever been to

the New Orleans. It's a great zoo. Do it. Take a day and just walked on Magazine Street and all the cool little shops and everything wind up at the zoo there and then there's a great diner not far from there bank and I had an amazing day. That makes me happy. Get some prolins at a little shop. It's man New Orleans. Ohe yes, you guys, is that is Prowlins. It was New Orleans. You say prowlin.

I've always said pray lining, but I was very much informed by someone who would know that you say prolins when you're in Okay, good to know, um Dan, do you want to read this? Last? This question? This is actually a question, Hi fire Escape crew. I know twenty twenty three has been treating you well so far. I've primarily been a console game or my whole life, but the PS five and Series X are starting to have games with lower performance and or resolutions than I'd prefer this point in

their cycle. I feel that's going to be the case even more so going forward. Since graphic card prices had finally come down to reasonable prices after cryptocurrency crashed earlier in the year, I decided to pull the trigger and build a gaming PC myself over the holidays. I was super apprehensive since I've never met, never spent this much money on a non essential thing like this, But after having it for a few weeks, I can definitely say I'm happy with

it and I'm glad I took that chance. Do any of you have a similar experience with being nervous about buying a luxury item, gaming related or not, but are really glad you did so. Thanks for everything you guys do. Justin p there is no question that a Steam deck is a luxury item and is not necessary, and I fucking love my steam Deck. It's worth every penny. Is so awesome to have a portable computer. I love my steam Deck. I take it with me everywhere I go. It's more important

to me than a wallet. It has been the greatest gift. And I think it's unnecessary. I say it's luxury in the sense that it's absolutely unnecessary. But my god, do I love my steam I mean doing my PCU during COVID was also the same thing, pretty nerve wracking. But this is a bit different, but two things. Most of my life, I was always afraid to have nice sunglasses, expensive ones, because I was like, oh, I'll lose these and it will be way more sunken cost. However,

it was the flip. It was the reverse, where it's because they're expensive and nice, I took way better care of them. Yes, that, and I have a nice pen the same thing, because it's a nice pen. It was a gift. The pen was a gift, so it doesn't really apply. But like, because it's a very nice pen, I know exactly where it is at all times. I'm not just gonna leave it on my desk at work that like the janitor will then clean up. You

don't just throw it in like a junct drawer or something. Yeah, I feel I got my first prescription sunglasses recently, and I used to do the dorky thing where I put the sunglasses over my glasses and that's just uncomfortable and looks stupid. So I got prescription sunglasses and it's like, okay, you take care of me. You know where they are. You take them when you're driving in some places and it's sunny. Yeah. Yeah. Watches too.

I have a bunch of watches, but the ones that I sort of splurged on are the ones I most I have like sentimentality attached to some of the cheaper ones, but the ones that I spent the most money on you can tell, like the actual winding mechanisms, they're just lifespan, still on time after X number eight years and I wind them. I like those two. Not that I don't enjoy like a nice fifty dollars watch that looks good. But yeah, Dan, you have luxury alcohol that you bust out on

special occasions. Yeah, thank you consider luxurious in your life. I'll name two non gaming things. One is recently we bought this. Neither of these things are sponsored. We just bought them, um, just like giving them disclaimer. Uh, Peloton I got. We got the bike and the treadmill, and there is something like I've had. I've gotten elliptical down there, like a dumb elliptical or whatever. And you know, I've had treadmills and

bikes and them all that shit in them. But having something with like that subscription service where it's like, oh, okay, I got my favorite instructor and like I follow all this stuff and like that shit is a really great motivator. And I've really like Mak and I really love the Peloton stuff and that's been excellent. The other so I'm sitting in right now. You might remember I used to be in a big couch that I bought from Box Discount Furniture. It was it was good, it was comfy. I enjoyed it

at cup Holders, but especially like I sit here so much. We were talking earlier about the post stuff and everything, and it's like, all right, well, I got this love seat, this two seat thing. I live here at three hundred and six to five days a year. I have guests here that sit in this room maybe fucking ten or twelve days a year and space is a premium. You know, I want to make sure I got a lot of shit in this room. I want to make sure this

is where I like broadcast from. I want to make sure I'm making the best of the use of space. And so we went to a Lazy Boys store and we found this one that's fucking got the power stuff and the lumbar support and all that. It is comfy as shit. It's very expensive, but it's like that was a very like like Monk was like, you should splurge on this because, like talk about something you use every day. I Am going to sit in this for most of the day every day and it

should be comfortable, and it is fucking awesome. I love this thing. So yeah, this Lazy Boy has been very, very good. I'm glad to hear that. I do think that people who sit for a living should invest in a good chair. It will save your ass, it will save your back, and I think you should have ergonomic setups. That's worth investing in for sure. It's like protecting your bones and your body and things like

that and making sure that you're comfortable. I'm trying to think about things that I like, literally was like, oh, like should I do it? And you know it's interesting is most of the time that I've like debated that and done it, it's been a wonderful purchase. Like it's not very often that I do that. I go, what a waste of my money? A lot of times when you are really on the fence about buying something quality, it's a wonderful thing that you get to have forever. I really like

coffee. I'm a pretty big coffee person. I splurged on like a more expensive, like like a drip coffee thing, and it looks nice and it makes wonderful coffee, and I get stoked about like having my coffee every day, and that's super worth it to me, even though it's like, could I have just used a cureg Probably, but I wanted this like nice drip

coffee system and I like it very much. I remember when I was just getting into game Spot, I used to always wear the same fucking like shitty tennis shoes that I've had for years, like they probably had holes in them, and I never fucking changed them. And everyone was like, you should get like good shoes, and I never would because I was like, I'm like, I've just got to wear these shitty old shoes because they're cool and they make me, you know, like they're they're whatever, Like they give

me character. I fucking bought a pair of Ultra boost and it changed my life. I'll never leave Ultra Boosts. They're so comfortable. Wear good shoes. Buy expensive shoes. Please buy good expensive sneakers. It's your feet, it holds your ass, it holds every part of you. Like, don't don't cheap out on something that like you walk on every day. Good shoes is super valuable. I didn't even think of that, like the clothing thing, like that's a recent thing for me, like in the last few months.

It's like my entire life up until like six months ago, I always just bought like every fucking shirt I ever wore was some screen printed it or like thick like Gildan fucking like just shitty twenty dollars shirt that was just itchy and heavy and not comfy or anything. And at a certain point I was like, I'm just kind of tired, like I just it just kind of feels shitty, you know, And Bonk, I asked Bond because like I

just don't know. I was like, what are good brands? What can I just like quality because like I've had a couple of like comfy shirts. It's like I want more stuff like that. I want comfy jeans, I want comfy shirts. And like even like what I'm wearing now is like a white T shirt. It just looks like a white T shirt, but it's like from a brand that Bonk told me about there, like oh, they make really high quality stuff and you can tell the difference. Like I just

assumed Barry Paul Rakard here and it's like Dad, the white shirt. It's all the same thing. Why are you gonna spend more or whatever? Like like no, actually, sometimes you get what you're paying for and it's going to feel better, and it's it's not a look thing. It's not a status thing. It's not a high flutent thing. It's just like it's a higher quality product. You know. Yeah, not always too right, Like there are like things where you're paying for the brand and you're paying for the

name that you wear. I'm not a huge like brand person. I don't like wearing things that have like Louis Vitan on it. Like that's not a huge thing that I crave, but I do crave quality when I went to

it's not that crew behind you. I was gonna say that's the gap or like equal you say, Tanning Chatam on purpose, Channing, I always fuck that up, Sanna, the same thing, mister Chatum, Yeah, would have been I've spent decent money on one bottle of wine in my life that I was like, oh, that might have been too much, and then I drank in and it was worth it. Well, it makes sense where it's like like we had that Johnny Blue when we did the Game of the

Year thing. But like literally when I moved into this house over two years ago, Anniball, one of my best friends, sent me a housewarming gift the day I moved in of like, here's a bottle of Johnny Blue because I like Johnny Black. I've drank Johnny Walker a long time. I've never had blue and he sent it to me, and like, I saved that and that's only for like, okay, the first I think the first time we recorded fire Escape, I think I had a little sip of that.

I think, like, you know, if I Bunkt's new job, we'll have a sip of that or something like that. Is it is saved for those things, so like that has lasted like a couple of years and I

just bought a new one because that one's about done. But like, like I think that's that's fun to be able to do that, But like I don't necessarily understand the like I feel like there's like statusy stuff where it's like, yeah, I think with a car stuff like I'm not a car guy at all, and as long as a car can get me where I want to go safely, And it's like, you know, I can hook up my phone and I got beaten stuff and back when she like, it doesn't

need to be fancy. You don't need to range over. The cars can go insane in price, but like you can spend thirty K and get a car that is like very nice, or you can spend fucking three K and get like a status thing or something. It's like, well, it just seems unnecessary And I never even I've never even bought a new car my entire life. I do think that there's probably something that feels good about driving a

car off the lot, but I've never experienced that. I remember, like from a very young age, like having a car was such a wild thing to own, you know, when I was growing up. I don't know what you guys like your first car, but like my first car was a Chevy Cavalier and I think it was like it was probably worth like seven thousand

dollars. And I remember Cavalier was one of my cars, and I remember thinking to myself when I was like, when I got in it, like put the key in it and stuff, I was like, this is seven thousand dollars, Like wow, that's so much money. And I like couldn't believe that I had like seven thousand dollars by my hands. No, my parents had to help me. I had to, like Dad, my dad calls it the Bank of Dad, and he's always like he no, he well, yeah, he would buy it and then I would pay him back

and yeah. My dad would basically say like he'd help me do it, um and then I would what was the VG was it? What was the vig on that action though? The vig? Yeah, what's the vig with Bank of Dad's interest he's charging so none, that's his thing. That's the that's is like, what's the what's the interest charge? Yea his catch sopranos. Of course I taken a loan. I just I didn't know the word vig. My dad always said that the Bank of Dad doesn't charge interests.

Um. It was the same thing for like several things in my life. I'd be like I need help, and he'd be like, oh, you want some Bank of Dad and he'd, you know, he'd always give me like, like, you know, five hund bucks if I need it, but you got to return the money from the Bank of Dad. I've only

ever personally owned one car in my life. Before that, I was just borrowing my parents whenever I could, And I think I spent like something like eight thousand dollars a night that I had saved up for a two thousand and seven Super Legacy turbocharge GT. I didn't want a turbocharge car that would require premium gas to not fuck the engine up. But like it was there, and I was like, as soon as I paid for I was like, oh, this was a mistake. But then I got in and it's it's

like I want that car again, like that exact one. I loved it. As soon as I was just fucking cruising, I knew that was the car I belonged in. I thought it was bullshit. My my grandma used to tell me and my cousins that, like, all right, so damn Matt, Melissa, if you if you don't do drugs and if you don't drink alcohol before your eighteenth birthday or maybe you said sixteenth, we will buy you a car. And I was like, hell, yeah, I don't

know. I'm not gonna drink, like, yeah, that's easy. And I don't think I did, like I didn't like And I first of all, if I did drink alcohol like sparingly a couple of times or whatever, there's no way my grandma would have known. But I think I got disqualified from that at some point because they didn't buy my car. The old the old LC got to you. I got screwed. He got drink, he got drink extra make up for this drink. Yeah, L will get you when at least expect him. I mean, I think like it's it's it

is what it's worth to you. I know that to some people that I know who love cars and they love old cars, they invest in an old, expensive car, brand new, fucking you know, expensive car, A lot of people use it as a you know, I never thought I'd be able to purchase a car of this magnitude. Before, and now I'm in a place in my life that I can so I'm buying this expensive car because so be it. And it's like cool if that's like you know, your

jam, and then that would be worth it to you. I don't invest in cars that get me to A to B. They are not they are not prestigious items to me their utility, so I don't care about that. But um, there are things that I've like I don't know if I want to say like waste, but I've spent extravagant, Like I've had like a fancy meal once that was like way more fancy I would ever buy usually,

And I remember being like, I can't appreciate this. My pellette is asked, but I was like eating this like moose like chicken shit, and I was like, this is so nice that I can like pretend to like be this fancy person for a night. And I enjoyed the experience, and like, hell, I think that was worth it, even though it was so extravagant and unnecessary. So whatever, you pick your spots though, because it's like you don't do that on a random like Wednesday night, but abolutely not.

And I went to a Ruba it's like, Okay, we're going to go to these like restaurant we're on vacation, Yeah, go for it. I think about the money stuff, like let's go to like an expensive place we normally wouldn't go to, And it turns out it was one of our favorite nights and favorite meals we've ever had. So like, you know,

you gotta pack your spots. Basically, yeah, the bottle of wine I bought, and like in the grand scheme of things, it's it wasn't like nearly as much as you can spend on a bottle of wine, but I spent like several hundreds when I was like twenty. It was for a family get together and I hadn't seen my family since I had moved to the West Coast. So I'm like, oh, I'll send this back from a winery

in California. And I was like, oh, I could get that that vintage would be great from like what little I knew, and I could tell the difference when I had it finally, But like that was that was that was a different thing. It was like you buy a gaming PC, it's gonna serve you well entertainment and hobby wise. For a long time, I mean, you might have updated, but like a bottle of wine is pretty fleeting in the grand scheme of things, so you gotta savor it while you're

drinking it. Yeah, a bottle of wine is like very precious. I think a gaming like our dear writer justin that is going to serve you for years. You will have that for a long time. You're going to spend so many hours, countless hours enjoying the benefits of this purchase. In no way could I consider this a poor decision. I admire you from making this big purchase that you probably like questioned a little bit and like thought about, and I hope you get to enjoy it for as long as humanly possible.

I do not believe that you will ever come back to this decision and be like, I shouldn't have bought it, I should have just played like games on lower rest. You're gonna love this experience. You're gonna enjoy that you did this, and I think you made a great call. And honestly, if you're in that position where like you are like that, that is a thing that comes about every like a handful of years or whatever, buying a

new gaming PC. If you do a half measure, and if you skimp on stuff, it's like, okay, well you're just gonna have to do this shit again in a couple of years all the way, just go nuts and then you want to deal with it for like five six years or something like that, Like just go big now, don't deal with it for a while, you know, don't don't have asset right now. Yeah, I'm not a fiduciary, but like, spend fucking money on your gaming PC, dude, yeah, put it all in important shit? Yes? Who needs

to retire? Do you have children? Justin? Are they going to college? Can you borrow from the Bank of Dad? I'm glad you heard. Can you say that again the audience heard. I don't want to repeat it, due Mike. I was proud of you for that. It was good. I said, more like borrow one k. That's really good. It's just it's the Billy Madison joke. Just but the two is good. You did a good job. Let's hear it from. Don't patronize me. I know I'm funny. I don't need your praise. What is this condescending?

I don't need this funny? You are pretty funny. Thank you. I know you baby left a lot. I know you both have a lot um, but yeah, it's thank you. It's like listening to four spoken right now. You're telling me I'm on a podcast talking to Marry and Mike. We got microphone video game voter pills. That's not Marvel. That's just me shouting things all right. Justin thank you so much. Oh my god, No, it reminds me too much of him. Um, thank you.

Justin pee frequent person. Right in you narrowed it down, you said to him. No, not justin Pea really narrows it down. Game to me? Yeah, um, yeah, there's not many hymns in games left. Yeah, all right, Mary, tell them where they can go to get some hot threads. Uh yeah, you can go to fire Escape merch dot com, get mugs, get my mousepads, Get mice pads. Will redirect you to fire Escape dash shop dot fourthwall dot com because that's where we put

the new merch. We still actually have our old shop. It hasn't we haven't taken it down. But I like the new shop because you guys seen that banana yellow shirt someone tweeted today multiple banana yellow shirts are in the wild, which I did put in and I want to just say I specifically put those in because you guys asked for it. I expect to see some people wearing banana yellow shirts. Um, there's also a mug. There's a beverage container. I'm sure it has a fancier title, but you know, like

water and stuff. The banana yellow shirt, hoodie, crop sweater. For those of you that would like to see your entire belly out, I know that you're out there. The Dorky Christmas line, the fire Escape coaster and the about the author MIKEL. Mhardy coaster and computer Matt Now, these are very classic. You're gonna want these in your life. Yeah, number one, you should get those first and foremost. Just let them know that you know Mike as a person. Well, holidays coming up. Get these as

Valentine's gifts, so they're not Holidays are coming up. Yeah, yeah, the holidays are coming. We're about as far from holidays as you can be. There twenty well twenty six days from you need unless you celebrate Chinese New Year. You're the rabbit. Yes, you you guys. We talk about indulging, we talk about splurging. Why don't you splurge on some splooge on these deals, on these hot deals, Hot on these deals. You cream

your jeans all over our merch. Let your soul out of your out of your d it's your s onto these this m your wide hole, just blue down, get that marble of a soul onto these sick hot sweet threads. Oh what I'm just most to like fucking ejaculate my soul onto the sick merch through my big Yes, it's pretty simple, justin it's pretty simple. Just jay it onto our banana yellow shirt. You can do it. Everyone's your

property. You can jay onto it. You can ja into it. It could be your jay sock for and you don't want to go to the bathroom for tis jacks. Buy our shirts. You this jay socks? Let me see if Yeah, it's just a sock. It's just a sock with an actual dick on the side, so like it looks like a continuation of your dick. That as you can tell your mom it's a sock, and then

in the meanwhile you're doing ungotten things. Yeah, walk into the kitchen naked except with the sock on, and then it'll be discreet and tell your mom don't worry about it, because it'll be just gree Okay, thanks sweetie. Did you did you clean the gutters out yet? Yeah? I got come on our merch all right, thank you. Justin we're past the emails.

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We will be back on February thirteenth. Yeah, and we'll be talking about hit Man Freelancer Mode. We'll be talking about Hi Fi Rush. That's March Resume Be four remake. Yeah, that's farther out. I want to play that bad trying to think it for PSVR two by then, I don't think so. Maybe we'll have be able to talk more about Atomic Heart. I think wild Heart a fucking minute. Mary, did you fucking lose?

I thought I was. You know, sometimes you get a thing and you like it's got Was this a fucking did you put a fuck googly eye? It could be Bonk? I was, she put I put that ship all over your house, dude, but it's very I was like, oh, there's like one of those things where it's like, oh, a packing glue or something. And I was like trying to like and I saw googly eye going around, Yeah she did that? Does this? I think this is you man. I've been googling all your ship and it is actually derived from

Bonk. Because Bonk came up to me without any like reason. There was no discussion about this previously and gave me entire plastic container filled with Google eyes and said, hey, here are some Google eyes and they said, oh cool, thanks thanks Bunk, and I just I just grabbed a handful and put in my pockets and I just went to town. I did not expect to find one on a beer like two months later. All right, nice work, nice work, I hope you enjoy. There was a lot.

I mean, it could have been her, I think, I know, I remember doing that. I don't want to take credit for her work, but I remember doing it to a lot of different like pieces in both of your houses, and they were both surprises. Um. The cat one was my favorite, though, Mike, because your cat looks like it should have though she already has googly eyes. Yeah. But yeah, that was when I was sitting at this desk working because you were here an extra day and

you were just kind of like walking around looking around. I was like, what are you doing. You're just like and she went into the bedrooms like just snooping, like all right, And he didn't question it. He just went to his bedroom and said, I'm just snooping, just a little friendships, like all right, whatever. Yeah, I just don't go into the little red door in the wall. Oh my god, there's a gimp in here. New mile gimps. All right, everybody, thank you. No,

that'd be different. Wait no, no, no, hold on a second gimp. Someone in a gimp suit, I think is what you meant, right? Uh yeah, a gimp suit. Nubile gimp suit. Nubile gimp suit. That's my favorite, Mario three powder, ubile gimp suit. Socks, blue je cum sock. God, do not google that. We've gotta sell those socks. Gotta get them the fuck out of our house. There's a bunch of dicks on socks that I don't need anymore. Buy them. They're three hundred dollars. It's just a logo. You can come in.

Your heart is a rock, Aim for the Flaming f Thank you, Thank you. Alex Greenling. Put the music on. Okay, Jake, play us out. We'll be back. We'll be back in February thirteenth. Thanks everybody. You could have been anywhere in the world tonight, but you chose to hang out here. Go get your cum socks, get your cum sacks. Get that soul out in that cum sock. Yeah, get that soul. Into that. Long will we go, Mary, how long will we go? Get that soul, Get that soul deep in that jake,

Get that so deep in the fibers. Get that so deep in the fibers, and and keep it there and then get more in. Let it layer so, let it, let it kick up, let it lay dr Get that CUM sock three hundred dollars for three hundred socks. Get one sock the Costco of CUM socks only get one, all right by everybody. The acronym of costco of CUM socks would be cocks Wait, costco? Oh what the chop the sticks style