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Catholic Confidence and Identity

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Episode description

Some arguments against the Catholic Church sound devastating. That's all an illusion! 
Catholic confidence doesn’t collapse overnight. It erodes when narratives replace knowledge.


In this episode of Fire Branded, we examine how claims like “the Church changed teaching” spread inside Catholic circles — and what happens when Catholics accept them without doing the work.

From Protestant objections to the Eucharist to tensions over liturgy and authority, we look at how arguments that sound devastating can reshape Catholic culture. Instead of reacting, we step back into history — the early Church, the Fathers, doctrinal continuity — and ask whether the Church actually fractures under scrutiny.

This isn’t about debate tactics.

It’s about whether Catholic identity is grounded in knowledge or shaken by headlines.

The Church does not fall apart under examination.

The question is whether Catholics are willing to stand firm when she doesn’t.


🔗 LINKS mentioned in the episode 🔊

🚨 My  Video on Spanish Inquisition Myths/Truth:
https://youtu.be/vMfM8Swi_14

Article at The Forge on the Inquisition and what I learned from my experiences as a young Catholic apologist:
https://www.theforge.fm/p/from-inquisition-to-inquiry-how-knowing

Firebrand Files: Promised in this episode, a post of evidence from Church history for the Catholic teaching behind the Eucharist.
https://www.theforge.fm/p/firebrand-files-the-eucharist-and

"Enter" The Forge. Visit, subscribe for free. It's Catholic Commentary that HITS
https://theforge.fm

Chapters
00:00 Catholic Identity Kickoff
03:34 Misinformation and Death Penalty
11:18 Protestant Challenges and Eucharist
19:23 Catholic Confidence Built
22:30 Notre Dame Identity Crisis
25:59 Chat Room Q&A Wrap

Transcript

Catholic Identity Kickoff

TJ Haines

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Catholics of all ages, I welcome you to Fire Branded. I'm TJ Haynes, the undisputed technician of the truth. And today, we're talking to you about some of that truth. We're talking about Catholic identity. We're talking about Catholic culture.

We're talking about Catholic confidence. You gotta have a little. In fact, you better have a lot, my man, my girl. This is recorded live on February 28 in the year of our lord 2026, and I thank you all for joining me. Let's fade that music out. Get right into it. Now listen. This is going to sound like an ad, but it absolutely is not. Okay? So I want you to hear me out.

This is not I'm I am going to ask you to subscribe to something later, but that's not what this is. I just published something to YouTube, a video to YouTube just last night and an article at the Forge. The YouTube video talks let me just get up the title here. The cover says the Spanish inquisition lies. The actual title of the video is Spanish inquisition, the lies you've been told.

The article at the forge is titled from I'll leave links to this in this episode's on demand page. In that article let me see if I can put this in front of you. In that article, I talk about my early days, young teenager in the field of Catholic apologetics. This is the forge, by the way. Doesn't it look beautiful?

Young teenager in the field of Catholic apologetics, occasionally intimidated because of people that were picking fights with me, theological, philosophical fights. And then some of the people that I was picking fights with knew more than I did. Sometimes my confidence outpaced my quality. That's the truth. So this store this is a story.

This article is basically the story of how that started and what Catholics should take from it related to Catholic Confidence. Catholic Confidence. Okay? Catholic identity is something else. And in that article at theforge.fm, I've also embedded the YouTube video.

The YouTube video talks about facts versus myths related about concerning the Spanish Inquisition. Okay? So basically the article is the story, the background, and what I learned and what you need to take from it, and then the video is the fruit of that story, things that I learned, discovered, and so on. The reason I bring it up here is because it's important it's an important lesson to learn related to something I'm, I guess, experiencing lately. I don't know a better way to put that.

And that is dialogue and discourse with Protestants. Which I guess I'm becoming famous for, and it's really not what I want to be famous for. Here's the deal. I am here for my brother and sister Catholics. I have no interest in converting Protestants. I will help. I hope that what I do for Catholics helps the Protestants or Pagans or Atheists. Of course, that is not my objective. My objective is the betterment of my brothers and sisters in the Catholic faith. Okay?

To help you to be more informed, nudge you closer to sainthood, help you to to to learn how to think more clearly. First to think rather than to to emote, to be emotional about something, but to think with your mind, and how to do it more clearly because there are a lot of people lying to you. It's not just secularists lying to you. It's not just secular media lying to you. It's people in the church.

Misinformation and Death Penalty

It's people in the pews. It is people in cath in independent Catholic media, not all, but many. So what I'm trying to do also is to help you to think clearly, to discern truth, to know it when you see it, and to know the lie when you see that, no matter how well disguised as the truth it may be. And these days, it they they are very very good at disguising lies to look just like the truth. They convince tens and thousands tens of thousands of pop.

They convinced people of lies that actually aren't true. I I just addressed I'm not gonna call it out because it was friendly, and I don't wanna embarrass anybody. I I don't wanna embarrass anyone even when it's not friendly. But just today, I I received a comment on YouTube from someone I'll get into that exchange later. But one of the things that they mentioned was the church's change of the teaching on the death penalty.

I'm not going to get into this right now, folks, but I'm gonna say it again. I've covered this to death in articles and podcasts, plural, in the past. Not gonna get into it now all over again. But the bottom line is this. The church did not change church teaching on the death penalty. I'm sorry. It absolutely, positively did not. Period. There is no argument to the contrary. There is none.

One plus one is two. Gender is binary, And the church did not change teaching on the death penalty. I'm sorry to disappoint you. I'm sorry if that scandalizes you. I'm sorry if that upsets you because you were so convinced that the church did change that teaching, but it did not.

Okay? Not gonna get into all that now all over again. But the reason now folks, there is no way in hell, I believe, that let's just throw out a number. A 100,000 ordinary Catholics have their had their faces buried in the catechism of the Catholic church. Let's knock it off.

Let's knock it off. No, you didn't. Most of you, and I say this friendly even though I don't look like it, most of you didn't have your faces buried in the catechism of the Catholic church. So let's stop the crap. Do you know why most people think the church changed teaching on the death penalty?

Let me go to the chat room. Here we go getting heated up, man. This is why it's called Fire Branded. Let's go to the chat room. Why do you think most people obviously, some of you out there I'm so sorry. I think this is a little over modulated. Okay. Obviously, some of you out there are were knowledgeable of the catechism. Not saying I'm not saying none of you read it, but most ordinary Catholics do not and still don't. Let's go to the chat room.

Where do you think most people got this idea that the church changed teaching on the death penalty? And by chat room, I'm mostly talking about YouTube and Substack, home base@theforge.fm. Where do you think most people got this false information? Wow. Mountains of Vesilium. You're dropping knowledge, man. You're dropping truth bombs like it's crazy. Trad Wolverine on YouTube says social media? Yeah. But you have to have it to share it.

Right? You can't share it on social media if you don't possess it first. Where do you think it came from? For most people, I'm not saying all. Nobody on Substack is chiming in because they're lame. No. I'm just kidding, Substackers. It was no. Okay. So someone is saying Catholic, but was it Pope Francis? Oh, I'm a new Catholic, but was it Pope Francis? It was not Pope Francis. Okay. Let me just chime in here as the that music comes to a close. Moe and folks, I wanna say this very respectfully.

Okay? First of all, I'm a very passionate, fiery person. So when I'm excited about something, I raise my voice, I get animated. Please don't mistake that for hostility. I know it looks like hostility. To anyone outside of my orbit, it looks like hostility. People who know me know that it's not. My hostility looks very, different. On occasion, you might have seen that on a show or two directed at opposers. But so when I get animated in fire like this, don't interpret that as hostility toward you.

I love you. I'm doing this for you because I love you. I care about you. Okay? Alright. Most average Catholics do not have their faces buried in the catechism. Okay? But many many, very many Catholics were saying the pope changed teaching on the death penalty. Where did that come from? Social media?

Okay. But somebody had to have it in order to post it to social media. Somebody had to had it have it in their noggins be before they had something to share, before they could share it. Whether it's the reporting of it or the knowledge of it. So where do you think this originated?

Independent Catholic media. Independent Catholic media had hundreds of thousands, possibly more people, Catholics, believing that Pope Francis changed teaching on the death penalty. Independent Catholic media did that. And their satellite agents, people who don't do blogging, they're very popular and famous on social media. Okay?

They're, they're proxies. The proxies of independent Catholic media, and low level bloggers, and so on. That's who told you that the church changed that the pope changed teaching on the death penalty. It is not true. And I hate to have made this about the death penalty.

It really isn't. It's just the example. Okay? It's an example of something that is absolutely, flatly false, but misinformation and disseminated from an independent Catholic media, and then poisoned the Catholic culture with it. So what does Catholic church Catholic culture do with that? What it receives is the pope changed teaching. Oh, the pope broke sacred tradition. What do you do with that? The pope is untrustworthy. This might be a false church.

We have a problem. Let's take cover in the SSPX. Let's take cover in the traditional Latin mass. Let's take cover in sedevacantism because that probably is the real church. How many people took that and went to sedevacantism with it? Probably not many, but definitely not zero. How many took cover in the SSPX? How many took cover in the traditional Latin mass communities? I'm not it's not an attack of the mass, in case you don't know me. I'm I'm not anti TLM.

Many took cover. Or if they were already there, they just deepened their cover. What prompted that movement? What I'm not gonna go all philosophical on you and and talk to you about the gravity of promptings and movements. But what prompted that movement? Independent Catholic media and their proxies in social media. So part of what I do here is to help to help you to think better, to think clean. Because the truth is often masquerading. I'm sorry. Lies are often masquerading as the truth.

Not on my watch, my friends. Because I'm I'm an idiot at pretty much everything I'm passionate about, but not when it comes to the truth. I can see it from space. If it's on Earth. Can see it from space.

Protestant Challenges and Eucharist

Going back to the where where I started with this. This Protestant thing, I'm not here to attack Protestants, I'm not here to convert Protestants. There are Protestants I cross follow on Substack notes, who I really like. I like what they post as long as it's not theologically errant. I like their questions.

I like answering their questions. I like presenting small challenges to them, challenging their thinking in something that they post, and they do the same to me. This is not Protestants are my brothers and sisters. This is not anti Protestant. Okay?

But I gotta tell you, some of this nonsense really needs to stop. Okay? When someone, as just recently happened, This is what's sparking this segment. When someone tells me that the Catholic church's teaching on the Holy Eucharist isn't Christian, I'm sorry. You just told me you believe in unicorns because you live in fantasy land.

Okay. So the Catholic church's teaching of the real presence in the holy Eucharist, that the holy Eucharist is the body and blood of the son of God, Jesus Christ. That's new. Okay. What's your theology?

And then insert broken, fractured, distorted, make believe, theology here in between these brackets. My response to so in other words, it's metaphor, it's spiritual, he didn't mean literal, and so on. My response to that is, it's very interesting. Do you know that theology was born in the late fifteen hundreds? Late fifteen hundreds.

Do you know my theology dates back at least to seventy AD? That's true. Well, it's a lie that, your theology I'm kind of paraphrasing. Your theology, spans across, you know, fifteen hundred years before the reformation. Is it?

I'll provide this as an article at theforge.fm. But I wrote a long comment loaded with substance and references of church fathers throughout fifteen hundred years that wrote about the holy Eucharist as we teach it today in the in the Catholic church of today. Forget about the Bible. I can make a biblical argument, but they've probably heard that a million times before, so I go to the church fathers. Because here's the thing.

If you want to know what truly is Christian, you need to know what were the Christians doing just after the period of the book of Acts. Because that's Christianity Catholicism. Right? Everyone can agree on that. Protestants understand that. Catholics understand that. Okay. Well, how do we get a snapshot of the early church? We can't go there Unless you guys have a DeLorean hidden someplace. I would love a ride.

I wanna I also wanna go back to 1985. Please DM me. I'll pay you. Whatever you ask, I'll pay you. If you don't have a time machine, how on earth can you get a snapshot, a picture, an image, a reflection of what what the early church was like? What were Christians doing? Because that's what Christianity is. You have to go to the writings of the early church. You have to go to the church fathers. You have to go to the Didache.

And I presented again, I'll put this in, like, a post show thing at theforge.fm. Go to theforge.fm. Subscribe. It's free. Stop screwing around. Stop being stupid. You know you wanna subscribe. Go to the forge.fm and just do that. Okay? So you have this in the DiddyK. You have it in second very early second century writings. You have it from folks like Justin Martyr, and Irenaeus, and several others. I can't recall names right now. But anyway. So this is what I did.

I put this long list of who wrote it, what he wrote, and what he said. Like, what he wrote. Like, what was the document? And what did he say in that document? And wouldn't you know?

The response was, well, Catholics worship Mary. What? Did you just say Catholics worship Mary after I set your Eucharistic theology on fire? My friend, if your home is on fire, may god forbid it, do you hang out in the living room and say, well, at least thank god it's only the upper floors. We got some time to sit in the living room. Come on. Give me a freaking break already. Listen. If that's how you wanna play, fine. I can't force you to accept the truth.

But lord have mercy. Don't double down with your anti Mary nonsense. Please don't do that. Because if you can't understand the basics, why are you even venturing into the nuanced? Into the advanced? Why am I bringing this up? It's believe me, it's not to gloat. Okay? In a second, if you have anything to say or ask in about a minute after I'm done with this explanation, here here's how this episode is gonna go from this point forward. I'm gonna finish this explanation.

I'm going to go to the chats to see who's saying what or who's asking what, and then I'm going to tie these things together that I just spoke about, and then bring the show to a close. Okay? Again, if you're not doing so already, go to theforge.fm and subscribe. It's free. You get my stuff emailed directly to you. There's no middleman. There's no algorithm. Okay? Enough said about that. This is why I'm sharing this with you.

These arguments from our protestant brothers and sisters used to intimidate me to no end. You have no idea. Because I didn't know what I was talking about. But I knew they had to be wrong. I'm talking about when I was a young teenager.

I knew they had to be wrong. But I really didn't know what I was talking about. Oftentimes, and I said this in the video that I posted last night about the Inquisition, oftentimes I knew just enough to buy myself some time or to not look totally stupid. But they were making very strong arguments that I didn't really know how to respond. 90% of them I did not know how to respond to.

What triggered this in the first place? Well, you don't know what you're talking about, why why did you enter the fray? Because they were issuing these arguments to other Catholics. My peers and older Catholics, they were bringing these arguments to other Catholics. And immediately, I went into pit bull mode because I'm very protective of my brethren. You have no idea. I am here I am. I am very protective of other Catholics. Even as a young teenager. So when I saw that, I was not having it.

That's why I entered the fray, but I didn't know what I was talking about either. Part of what triggered me was observing that these arguments the the protestants were making, you could see the intimidation and shock on the faces of the Catholics they were giving these arguments to. Okay? And then I entered the fray. Today, I hear these this is the thing.

I used to see these arguments are so strong and so authoritative. Today, I view them as absolutely ridiculous. Complete so ridiculous, I don't know how anyone could hold on to these lies. Ridiculous. They used to really intimidate me.

This story holds true in my exploration of the facts of the Inquisition, my exploration and research of the facts of the Crusades, my exploration and research into the facts of the Bible, biblical theology, patristic biblical exegesis. Here's what I took from that. The Catholic church is always right. Clear enough? The Catholic church is this is not a blind claim. This is an earned claim. The Catholic church is always right. Has the church made mistakes? Of course. That's not what I'm talking.

I'm not talking about administrative mistakes or even moral mistakes. I'm talking about the church functioning as the church is called to function. Salvation of souls, the preservation of apostolic tradition, teaching, preaching, issues of faith, morals. This is what the church is supposed to do. Right?

Catholic Confidence Built

This or this is what it was, I guess, bred for. In those areas, it has never aired. And then you have little historical hiccups like like the inquisition. Did the church air? No.

Because the church, the Vatican, tried to stop the inquisition. I'm not gonna get into that whole history. The point I'm trying to make is what I learned as I sought and found and processed the truth and allowed it to be challenged. Folks, I've had to go through a lot of correction over my you know, people think that people say it to me all the time in in in comment exchanges. You don't like to be told you're wrong.

Oh, my friend. Do you know how many times I've had to be corrected since I was a young teenager? Holy crap. And I subject myself to scenarios where I can be corrected. I challenge people who know way more than me.

Try being 13 and picking a fight with a protestant pastor whose lean is like fifties. I was always subjecting myself to opportunities for correction. Not necessarily from Protestants, but that did happen. But from, you know, Catholics and theologians. Meanwhile, I'm I'm like an idiot subjecting myself to correction, but by theologians whose corrections may hurt because I thought I had this right.

It may bruise my ego, but I don't care. I don't wanna be correct. I'm sorry. I don't wanna be right. I wanna be correct.

Point I'm trying to get at is is basically this, and then I'm gonna go to the chat rooms to see who's saying what, and then I'm gonna conclude the show tying it all together. By the way, follow me everywhere on socials at real t j haynes. If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm very active on socials, especially on ex real t j haynes. And if you subscribed to me to theforge.fm on Substack, I'm also very active on Substack notes. Substack notes is like a Twitter, but with nicer people.

Smarter people. True. True. I'm not trying to be snobbish. I'm probably the dumbest person on notes. So I'm telling you this is a dumb person. Nicer people, smarter people. It's a good app, good platform, great people. So there's that. Real t j Haynes everywhere on socials.

Anyway, so what I took from all of this, all my study, my research, my fumbles, my recoveries, what I learned from all this is Catholic Confidence because the Catholic Church is always right. The Catholic Church is always right, and the Catholic Church always gets it right. And where the Catholic Church falters, it recovers. What I took from that was a Catholic confidence that's earned by knowing the church's history, by knowing what the church teaches. Speaking of Catholic confidence and Catholic identity, I know I kind of foible this just a little bit, but let me just go back to it real quick.

Notre Dame Identity Crisis

This is theforge.fm. This article here, wanted to bring your attention to. Just a little update on the Notre Dame situation because it comes to bear. So the professor, the pro abortion anti Catholic professor has, I guess, resigned from Notre Dame. Okay.

This is an article I wrote there on at the forge, bishops stand tall resigned. And the latest news on that is Catholic students at the university are doing a prayer rally for praying for Catholic identity at Notre Dame. Well, why is noted why is it that an anti Catholic pro choice and anti Catholic is my word based on my interpretation of her record. Okay? That's my opinion.

My opinion. Anti Catholic, factual, pro choice. Professor, why did this professor have more moral integrity than the the administration at a Catholic university? She resigned. The university did not rescind the appointment. She resigned. She had more moral integrity than the universe than the Catholic university had. Why is that? That I really don't know. That's a puzzle I just can't solve.

I can tell you some pieces though. One of those pieces is Catholic culture is deficient. And because Catholic culture is deficient, Catholic identity is is deficient. And that's what we're talking about here, and this is part of the tie in. Catholic identity and Catholic confidence.

If you don't have Catholic Confidence, you will not have Catholic Identity. Or you'll have deficient Catholic Identity. You'll have anemic Catholic Identity if you do not have Catholic Confidence. You have to be careful with that Catholic Confidence. You don't wanna turn it into a weapon.

But for Pete's sake, you have to at least turn it into a shield. And don't be shaken or stirred by what the Protestants are telling you because some of them make very good argument. Well, they make very good I'm sorry, Protestants. They make very good sounding arguments, but they're very flawed and deeply flawed arguments. Don't be intimidated by them.

Do you know how many in the past week or two, how many really very good sounding arguments against magisterial authority, the papacy, the Eucharist, I heard from Protestants in the past couple of weeks? Really, really, really good sounding? Arguments that might have made me cry when I when I was a teenager. But they're not good arguments. They sound great, but they're not good.

Sometimes the protestants that are telling you this just have it wrong. Or they're uninformed. Or they know zero about church history. They think the church started in the fifteen hundreds. Not in thirty three AD. Some of them, though, are not honest players. Some of them are lying to you. They don't know what the hell they're talking about, and they know it. They just don't want you to be right because you're the Catholic. So don't get shaken by any of their arguments.

Because take it from an expert in this, I've been doing this since I was a teenager, their arguments can sound great and some sometimes their arguments, there there can be a grain of truth in there. Something that you didn't know about before. It hasn't happened often in my experience, but it can happen. Okay? Or they might have an angle that you never it doesn't change the truth, but they might have an angle that doesn't help their argument, but actually strengthens yours, and you will have and you will have learned something.

But don't be intimidated. Alright. Before I start going on and on and on and on, little traveling music there as we see what's going on in the chat rooms. Let's see. Mountain of Ecelium earlier said, as a good priest told me, we need daily conversion.

Chat Room Q&A Wrap

Daily Daily conversion. That's true. Otherwise, it's far too easy to be led astray. That is absolutely true. Conversion from fallen to sainthood, because that's really what heaven is.

Conversion from fallen to sainthood is literally a daily process. And I wanna tell you folks, if you feel like you're only making progress within baby steps, I wanna tell you that's good actually. Because an inch you've heard me say this before. An inch an inch closer to holiness for you is the value of a thousand miles from heaven's perspective. An inch closer to holiness is the value of a thousand miles from the perspective of God and the angels and the saints.

Step by step, even if it's baby steps, don't lose hope. Don't get frustrated because you think you're not advancing at at the pace that you think you should be. To repeat what mounts of Vesilium said, as a good priest told me, we need daily conversion. Otherwise, it's far too easy to be led astray. Absolutely true.

Oh, yeah. That's yeah. That's so a couple of comments here are a little bit dated now, so I'm not gonna repeat them because now it doesn't matter. They were they were in response to something I said earlier in the show. TLM and Novus Ordo are both valid ways of celebrating the mass.

I have seen reverend and also awful examples of both saying, neither really have monopoly on the correct or the correct way or right to call the other of being wrong. True. The Novus Ordo and the traditional Latin Mass are both Roman Rite liturgies. Okay? The traditional Latin mass is an evolution of what the mass was before I forget the year now.

Before the traditional Latin mass was codified, the the old mass was slightly different from the TLM, but the TLM is very similar to it. It's very similar to it. It's not identical, it's very similar to it. But the TLM is a progression. The Novus Ordo is a progression of the Roman rite, but it's not a change of the Roman rite.

It's still the Roman rite. Okay? There are better and more sloppy ways of celebrating the tradition, the the Novus Ordo. That's the sad truth. I wish people would keep, you know, celebrants and parishes would keep it very tight, Throw a lot of Latin in there and stuff.

Maybe we'll get to that. It it is popping up. It is bringing up a more the Novus Ordo celebrated in strict accordance. Now there's a lot of there's a lot of latitude a celebrant has or a diocese has or parish has in how the how the novus order was celebrated. But if you keep it tight to what the what the Vatican Council, I guess, put forward, The Novus Ordo, unless you know what you're looking at, looks very much like the traditional Latin mass.

I wish we could have something closer to that, but but it's still a valid mass. Okay? Before I beat that horse to death, let me just keep moving forward. Trad Trad Wolverine said the Didache, that's that's an early church source. Between '70 and a hundred AD, Didache was written.

We don't know who wrote the Didache. Early on, it was believed that one of the apostles did, but we don't know that. So you can cough it up or you can you can mark it as anonymous. But what we do know from from the historical record, okay, from archaeology, it was very, very, almost certainly written by someone close to the church. Not just, you know, like an average layperson.

But let's say it was written by just an average layperson. It doesn't matter because you don't have to take theology for I mean, you could, but you don't have to take theology from it. Really, don't take theology from it. But what you take from the Didache, which if you don't if you've never heard of that, it's it's spelled Didache, d I d a c h e. What you get from the Didache is what Catholicism, Christianity, looked like in in the very early era of Christianity.

What did it look like? What were Christians doing? What was regarded as normative and normal and natural in Christianity? Even if you don't take the theology that might be gleaned from the Didache, you still take an image of what the church was, and it looks strikingly similar to what the church the Catholic church is today. You see that in a lot of early church writings, actually.

Mounds of Physician Leaves said, I use mister fusion to power my home electricity bills down. Yeah. You're gonna have to hand those one one of those to me if you don't mind. But if you want, you can keep the mister fusion. Just give me the DeLorean. That would be a fair deal. Catholics are part of the body of Christ, so that makes Mary our mother. True. We must I'm just gonna move on. Try it a little quickly.

So we must honor our father and mother according to the 10 commandments. Yeah. And somebody on I think it was was TikTok. Might have a Facebook. I I don't remember. Where does it say Christians should follow Mary? I'm just so tired of hearing dumb stupid things like that. From this day forward, all generations will call me blessed. What do you make of that, Protestants? What do you make of that?

We don't worship Mary. We venerate Mary. Please get the hell over it. I asked Protestants that don't believe the Eucharist if every Christian since the inception of Christianity believed the Eucharist was the real presence of our Lord. I asked Protestant oh, I asked Protestants that don't believe in the Eucharist if every Christian since since Christianity believed in the Eucharist.

Are you saying that Christianity went off the rails right from the jump and needed oh, I guess this is what Maury tells Protestants. Are you saying that Christianity went off the rails right from the jump and needed the reformers to correct it? Then I watched them intellectually tap dance the answer. That's exactly my that's exact that's literally my experience. Exactly as you just described.

So you're telling me the Holy Spirit damn it. You're telling me the Holy Spirit waited fifteen hundred years after the resurrection to get it right? You're telling me the Holy Spirit enables the authoritative personal and private interpretation of the sacred scripture canonized by the Catholic church, but whatever. You're telling me the Holy Spirit has led to 30,000 non Catholic Christian denominations Because people are free to interpret on their own because the holy spirit enables private interpretation. 30,000 denominations?

My friend, it sounds like the holy spirit is very, very confused. Or sola scriptura is a mistake. It is not Christian. It is an error. One of those two things is the truth. I'm sorry, and only one of those two things is the truth. There's no third option. Authority is in the Bible. Mountains of Icylium, you're getting a lot of airtime today, so I'm going to skip to other to other commenters. I read like three this is okay.

It's okay that you comment. I'm just kind of razzing myself there that I keep reading your comments. You and Maury are chatting up a storm. The Diddy Kaye Maury says the Diddy Kaye was very close to being in the New Testament, if I'm not mistaken. I don't I don't know.

My guess is I don't think so. The funny thing about the Didyke is if you read it, it looks like the New Testament. It looks eerily like the New Testament. But I think the Didyke was discovered in the early to mid nineteen hundreds. Okay?

Has scholarship produced the result that, oh, it turns out the early church had not only had this, which it did, but it was considered for inclusion in the New Testament canon. I mean, has modern scholarship arrived there? I have no idea. What I can tell you is the Didache, what is a in in human history, is a fairly recent discovery. And it's a valid discovery.

Okay? This is not like Catholic church propaganda. I will also tell you the Didache what's found in the Didache went into the formulation of the ordinary form mass. The Novus Ordo is prompted not prompted, but the Didyke the Didyke and other modern scholarship, valid scholarship, went into what the Novus Ordo is today. So when I tell people, you know, the Novus Ordo is is closer to the original Roman mass than the traditional Latin mass.

They lose their minds. And I'm not saying it to hurt people's feelings. I'm just saying it because it's a matter of fact. They they do not want to hear that the Novus Ordo is closer to the original mass than the traditional Latin mass. And if you're a traditional Latin mass person, I'll I'll I'll say this. Okay. Here here's my compromise. Okay? Maybe we can compromise this way. If you don't wanna believe, and it it's the truth, but if you don't wanna receive it, that's that's up to you.

If you don't wanna receive that the Novus Ordo is closer to the original mass than the TLM, okay. Can we at least agree that the Novus Ordo is a reflection of the earliest masses? Can we at least agree there? Because it's the truth. I'm not saying the traditional Latin mass is invalid or inferior.

None of that. But can we stop this nonsense that there's nothing traditional about the Novus Ordo when technically its framework is older than that that that went into the TLM, which is very old. But the Novo Nordisk framework is older. Okay? Let's be friends. Okay? Let's just let's let's agree on let's at least agree on that. Okay? I'm not taking your mess away from you. Alright?

One last thing from Trad Wolverine because I I haven't read many of what what he put forward. Quotes oh, the Diddy Diddy quotes Matthew like it was the only source available. Matthew is traditionally the first gospel, and may indicate how early the Didache was. The Didache was very early. '70 to a 100.

Most scholars lean in the direction of seventy A. D. So you could be right. I haven't read the Didikay since the nineties. So I'm I'm not going to speak too much about it because I I don't wanna talk about something that I don't know anymore what I'm talking about, because I haven't touched the Didikay since.

Except maybe a couple of times for references, but I haven't read it, you know, since the nineties. So there's that. Alright. Catholic Confidence and Catholic Identity. There was another story.

I'm not gonna read the story. I just wanna let you know that it's there because it's important. But, The Fathers Know Best, I published another Fathers Know Best series. In this one, this was a really good one. Usually, in with the Fathers Know Best series, I take a subject, like, in this case, I think it was Fidelity to the Church or something, or Fidelity to Rome, something like that.

And I come up with something that the whole that one of the church fathers said about that, not just a little snippet, but like an extended quote. Okay? Either like that or two of that size. And I explain what he's what the church father is saying, and then I give my personal reflection on it. That's usually what the fathers know best articles are.

This one, I tie it into the situation, going on between Rome, The Vatican, and the Society of Saint Pius the tenth s s p x. Saint Cyprian on fidelity to Rome. Wisdom of a church father and a juicy story from church history, and it is a juicy story from church history, tied into something we're seeing in Catholic news right now, the SSPX Vatican tension. That was a really good one. I usually don't tie it into something modern, modern, but that one was just too juicy.

There's a couple of articles I'm gonna publish that are really juicy. I'm going to be posting some really good stuff. Everything I post on the forge is good. But I'm gonna be posting some really good stuff that I really don't want you to miss, and I cannot rely on the algorithm of social media to send it to you. Sometimes there will be videos or podcast episodes and stuff like that.

I really want you to be part of the crew at theforge.fm. The f m stands for Fiat Media because the father of the forge is a big time Marian devotee. Theforge.fm is a Substack. If you're not familiar with that, it doesn't matter. You'll figure it out. There's also an app. The Substack app is really, really, really good. The podcasts play tremendously in there. The chatting is tremendous in there. Substack notes is really, really great.

And you don't have to do everything that the app can, you know, offers. But, at the very least, even even if you don't download the app, come and check me out of the forge.fm. It's Catholic commentary at the point of impact. Catholic commentary that hits, baby. And and I write good stuff there.

I post my podcast there. I do extra articles there. Like, there's a couple of things related to this episode that I'm going to post to the forge and so on and so on. I really want you to check it out because that's where I'm building my truth army here, theforge.fm. I hope you learned something.

I hope I don't go back to edit this episode, and I'm like, damn. I didn't really I didn't really tie in that point very well. I hope you learned something. I hope this motivated you. I hope this inched you closer to Catholic Confidence, nurtured your Catholic identity, and brought you a step closer to holiness and sainthood, your personal excellence.

This has been Fire Branded, available everywhere podcasts are found, and it is the flagship podcast of the forge, which you will find at theforge.fm. I'm TJ Haynes. God bless you. God be with you all. Bye bye.

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