Vincent D'Onofrio • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #283

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Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Okay, thank you, thank you. It's so good to be here.

Very nice to meet you, Vincent. Thank you for doing the show. I appreciate it. Where are you and what are you doing? And why?

I'm in my apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York.

And are you working on something at the moment you can tell us about that.

I am in deep prep for the new Daredevil series that we're about to start.

Fantas can I ask what it is like to do something I assume you have loved and then there's been a very big gap, right, how do you feel about going back to it? Is it like exciting and im a weirdo or nostalgic or how does it feel.

It's a character that I've played often now, so it's this will be so is the original Daredevil and then Hawkeye and then Echo. So this is the fourth, okay, series I've done playing Fisk, which is it's a strange thing. That's something that I've never done before in my career. I've played the same character in the same series for a long time, but I've never played the same character in four different series for a long time, so it is,

Yeah. Do you feel you've changed, like how you play it? Has it evolved for you yourself as actor or is it in something you feel very comfortable even slip in?

Yeah, I mean I think it evolves. First off, as you know, my job as an actor is to service the story, and so each each series has been a different story. They're connected, but they're different for the reasons I just said before, and so so yeah, so my job is to service that the best I can, and

Yeah, because you also did you have played? You did Laura and Order you did for like nine years, ten years exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah, Wow, you're you're You're you commit, you really commit. I also think that you are very underrated as a comic performer, and I think you in The Breakup is one of my favorite comedy performances. I think you're so funny in that film. And I really love that film. I think that's like a real gem and you're funny in it, and you're so funny in such an unusual way, like it's quite hard to work out. I just remember being like, this guy's fucking funny. I really like doing that thing.

Yeah.

Do you like doing comedy?

I do? I do very much. I like physical comedy. I had a blast doing The Breakup. I had a blast doing them in black, like I do like that kind of stuff.

Yeah, yeah, well, I think that's what I think you should be doing more with that. I'm gonna have a word and I read that if I may, if I may, and forgive me because this might not be true because it's on Wikipedia. But that you're a magician or you.

Or I was when I was a kid. Yeah, for sure?

Really is that? Do you still have these skills?

I have some skills, Yes, I did. They never work on Zoom, though they work live much better.

Okay, well if we.

But yeah I do. I do. I know of some really amazing card tricks that were taught to me by other incredible magicians. And I know some Yeah, I know how to do illusions and all of that stuff. I started when I was thirteen. I started reading books. There was a Cuban family that moved into our neighborhood and down in Florida, and this little town that I lived in at the time, it was a little town. Now

That's fucking serious.

Yeah, I know, but it was my first time. It was my first experience those experiences as a young boy. You know, we're obviously the first time was around stage, and yes, it was good for me.

Now, so you've got a load of cops and fire fighters around, and they watched the thirteen year old boy he drowned.

Yeah, just just cops. So just just the cops came over and yeah, I forget if it was two or three pairs of handcuffs on me and then put in the mail bag. It pulled with the chain and locked and then pushed me in. But I had, you know, we had made sure that you know, they knew, they understood that it was not it's not wasn't dangerous at all.

That's pretty impressive, Vincent. I've forgotten to tell you something. I know we've just met, and I should have probably told you at the beginning, but uh oh yeah, I just have to. I just have to say it. You've died. You're dead dead sorry, okay, yeah, okay with that, Yeah, how did you die?

It's well, I was on stage and it's ten years from now though, oh wow, okay, which is wild itself. Finally, I was doing leir on stage and I screwed up one of my lines. I couldn't recall a piece of dialogue and it made me. At first, I just thought I was going to cough, but it wasn't a cough. I think that the idea of not knowing my line for the first time in my career ten years from now, I think I was too old and too baffled by it, and I just couldn't. I just stopped breathing. Oh my god.

Wow, on there they carry you off on their shoulders. Yeah, ham I was saying, oh god, that's beautiful.

Well like a log. Yeah. I don't think haml was carried off stage.

But yeah, well in the film he is. And that's the only the anything I've understood vaguely understood.

This wasn't that romantic. This was basically yeah, there was like several women. I think there was like seven of them. I hear from other dead people.

Were they in the play, these women or they were just women from.

They came up on stage. They were in the front row. There were was some kind of women's league or something, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's beautiful. Where did they take you? They seem to know where they were going, these women. Where did they take their buddy?

Just they took me right right down the block too, to active studio. Wow, where the birth of my acting began. And then and I'm still there. I'm still there.

They buried you under it, or you're just rotting in the middle of there.

No, they never buried me. They just left me in the garden. I'm in the garden.

Right, right, So just sort of slowly getting sort of rutting away in the garden of the actitute.

Yeah, I'm next to the lie because the Strasbourg amazing. A lot of people don't know that story. I mean, it is ten years from now.

No, but I tell you this, when it happens, people will definitely talk about it for quite some time. And I think a lot of what's also lovely, and I think a real sort of gentleman gentlemanly thing about your death is I think admissions to the actor studio, we'll go through the roof. I think it'll be a real uptick in applications, and that's because you're there, you know. I think a lot of people be very excited to be to learn at your feet.

You mean literally at my feet.

Yeah. I just think they'll be very like, wow, we're so close to greatness, you know, and maybe some of it will rub off on them, you know.

Yeah. But what I'm confused about is that, well, I do like the notion of people being at my feet, but since I'm in the garden, yeah, yeah, you mean that, that's well, they'll be literally at my feet in the garden.

I think, like, I don't know the layout of the actor studio, but I'm imagining people are going to class, They're walking past the windows, They're looking at your rough and corpse. They're constantly just their eyes are always drawn to it. They're distracted in class sometimes because I just

You know. It's so touching. Yeah, it's so touching. I actually started to get emotional just.

I think it's it's a really I'll be honest. I've done this show a while. That's one of my favorite desks. I think that's very romantic and lovely.

I just have to say that when you see me in the garden, though, I still have the expression of not being able to breathe on my face. So they put a planter close by my face so you can't. It's not a great look.

So so there's a there's like foliage around your face.

Yeah, yeah, but my feet were very clean.

Oh, I know, which was strange. You played lea barefoot, I remember, but your feet were just pristine. It was a real interesting choice. He was going mad, but he kept his feet clean. It was interesting. It was beautiful. And see the best performance of lir I've ever seen, and the best ending. I think I killed it. Yeah, yeah, you fucking killed it. Do you do you worry about death? Vincent? Is it a thing you concern yourself with?

I worry about that particular death, but yeah, no other, no, other particular death. I don't like the death of others. Need too, that bothers me.

Yeah, I think that.

Yeah, it sucks other things, other people in that context, death sucks as far as you know me. It's like, you know, ten years from now, die on doing lyric. It's like okay, like, okay, I get that, I get it right. You'll be all right?

Is there enough to life in your mind?

There could be more ice cream?

Mm hmm. Well I'll tell you what. I got a surprise for you. There is a heaven and you'll go into it. And it is filled with ice cream. It is like one giant ice cream parlor. All the flavors, Oh my god, favorite flavor, what's your favorite flavor?

Rocky Road?

Oh my god, you ain't seen this much Rocky road. There's a man in the rocky road. You can eat your way through it. It's rocky road everywhere, and other things, flavors you never tried. Everything's there. Everyone's very excited to see you, Vincent. They're very excited. As you arrive in Heaven, they all give you a standing ovation for your leah and they're like, we watched from up here that.

Was in hand me, Like they hand your rose, isn't it? Well I can't wait.

Yeah, well you've got ten years so just you know, made the most of it. But everyone in Heaven so excited to see you. They want to talk to you about your life, but they want to talk about your life through film. And the first thing they ask is what is the first film you remember seeing? Vincentinofria?

So we're talking film, not TV show, right, correct? Yeah, so it would have been to Tora.

Oh shit, the driver never come up on this, but the driving and the drive in Yeah, where was that?

Flora? Nice Toro, Toro, Toro. I pronounced it wrong at first, I said Torah, which is different, isn't it to Toro? Maybe it's Tora. Anyway, let's talk about both of those titles as if they're the same, dumb, so nobody is confused.

You with Torah.

In the car there was three people, Torah, Torah, and Toro.

Right, yeah, great? Who was your favorite?

Torah?

Yeah? Good choice has to be hastivate some people. I think. I also think that's like a thing that's changed with time, because it used to be Tora that was everyone's favorite. And I think that it's kind of like the changing sort of political landscape, you know.

I mean, well, you know how, you know how like sometimes you make a choice too quickly and then you realize that, you know what I felt rush, So initially I was attracted to Torah, and then you know, I realized that Torah was more interesting and that Torah the other Torah had no significance whatsoever. So the Tora that I liked was just a I think I was rushed into it. I think Tora took over.

Yeah, well the other the other tours. Sadly, it's like no matter what age you are, that tour is not interesting, you know what I mean, Like it does it like the other two? It was? I think the first toy you're like, yeah, sort of dazzled by, but as you sort of revisit it, you realize there's more depth to the other tourer. But the other tour is like sort of dead, dead weight.

Yeah. I don't even know whether there could be to Yeah, it would have worked, It would have worked, would have.

Worked, and it would have been tight, you know what I mean, the whole thing, because because the film is constantly trying to accommodate Tora, and you're like, we don't need Tora.

Yeah, I think they won't wait too far. And then you know, there's Toro. Those three. I loved all three of.

Those, flawless Toro, Toro and Toro. I defy anyone to pick a favorite, because they're just wonderful in their own ways, you know.

Equally yeah and similar ways.

Yeah, in their own, unique and identical ways.

Yeah.

So that's a good first film. Did it make you want to be in films or just you just wanted the case of the Tories.

Well, it made me want to be Japanese and attack America. Right, And I think that started my imagination really going. And I think I just eventually saw Lawrence of Arabia and I realized it's not all about being Japanese.

Sometimes it's about being that.

It's mostly about being English with blue eyes and belong hair.

Yea, writing cameras.

And even knowing that watching that film when I was a young man, Lawrence of Arabia, the David Lean movie, watching it, I knew that one day it wouldn't be politically correct anymore. I used to think a lot about that kind of stuff when I was an adolescent.

Yeah, what is the film that scared you the most? Do you like being scared? Vincent?

I do like being scared? Yeah, the other? Do you know that film? The Other?

Not the the other singular?

Now that confused me. Just then the other signies.

Well I know the others, the others, which maybe is the sequel to the other?

No, no, no, no, no, the other.

Okay, Okay, tell me about the other.

It's about two blonde I think German boys or Austrian boys on a farm. I don't know that film was It was made in the early seventies. I believe that was a very scary movie. Super scary. Yeah, what happens in it? What did these boys do? Well, you you never really know if there's one or two of them, Like it's either one really fucked up kid or it's too kind of screwed up gods. Right, So it's just

Them, either one really fucked up kid or two slightly fights up kids. Yeah, Jesus, really scary.

Yeah, Yeah, I mean I don't know, like that that had a huge effect on me.

Ye, did it change the way you were in buns.

Well changed the way I jump out of lofts into hey.

For sure, Yeah, you don't forget that. Lesson, what about crying? What's the film that made you cry?

The mist Old Yell? You're right?

In the human.

Such a fucked up ending. Why would they end a movie like that? I believe that they would end like that, films like that.

I did, Yeah, I go, who is this for?

Yeah?

What are you doing? Why does this have to happen?

And you know, and to sell it to dog lovers, do you know what I mean?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Hey, it's a film about old Yeller. You know, all you dog lovers. Yeah, you know. And then fucking hell, the way it ends is so brutal, it's just wow, okay, yeah, you know.

Sometimes you read these things where they say like, oh, but these things teach kids about death, and it's good for them to learn about death. My friend said once when her when her dad died, she said to me, I realize now that Bambi and all these kids films where the dad did in no way help me. Like, at no point we're like, oh thank god, I saw oh Yeller, I'm fine about my dog dying. These don't help.

No, but it does make the point. Maybe they should make more movies about dad's time.

Yes, I feel like there's quite a few, though, I feel like I've seen a lot, and I still don't love the idea, you know what I mean?

Trying to think of the last movie I saw where the dad died.

There's a dad dying genre, surely. Well, yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe they've stopped. Maybe they've stopped killing dads in films.

Well, I think that's probably why she was so effective.

By her dad's Yeah, right, we need to sort of get back to making dead dad films. Yeah, well, we've got some work to do, that's for sure. What is the film that you love unconditionally but critically it is not acclaimed. Most people think it's shit, but you think they're idiots.

Wow, that's a really tough one. Well, I don't know. Do people like Tremors?

It's fucking great Tremors.

Yeah, so that's that can't be wrong.

I think people do like it. But I know why you why you've picked it, and and if if you want, I would allow it because it looks like a film that's not good, but it's really good.

But it's really good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's now three three hundred Tremors films and a TV.

Series and Kevin Bacons in it. Yeah, he's great. Yeah.

What about the other side of it? A film that you used to love but you've seen recently and you think, I don't like this anymore.

I hate when that happens. It does happen, though, you know, some films just don't hold up. I saw Arthur, and Arthur is still half of it is still really really funny, and then it's you're just waiting for it to be over. But it's really him Dudley Moore that keeps you going for half of the movie.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good answer. I imagine that's very dated. I haven't seen it in a long time. There's one for you. What's the film that means the most to you? The film itself might not be any good, but the experience you had seeing the film will always make it special to you. Eed a first date.

Just hang on a second. So you got very excited when you said that last thing you sat up, you projected a little bit more. It's like tickets for all of our you know, like you were, I mean selling tickets on the West End or something. Tickets for all of us, tickets for all of us. You know what's what was the question?

What you got distracted by the vibe?

I was just so like, Wow, I got to get a ticket for all of them?

Yeah, right, right, right, Well, the question is what's the film that means the vice to you because of the experience you had seeing the film e g. First Date with a loved one in.

That Cowboy go On for what I had never seen anything that honest and raw before. And there was all this stuff where I was living in New York as a young actor at the time, and even though it was made by an English director British director, you could smell New York in that movie. And I just I was at the right age. I was in the right place in New York, starving, you know, like like all the other artists, like sleeping in Central Park with my legs wrapped around my ten speeds so nobody would steal

That's a pretty great onset.

Yeah.

Perfect.

I matched your excitement.

Yeah, you did. You know what I was like, He's selling tickets for forty second Street. I was like, oh shit, here we go.

Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

I'm buying I'm buying one for the how the Women's commit just in case he drops dead.

And a row for the a row for the Women's League. Yeah, the whole roll of them. They're very excited. What is the film you must relate to? Is there a film you relate to?

Yeah? Of course, Wow, I think Sound of Music.

Which which character Maria?

Yeah?

Right, because you're an inspiration.

No, we just have the same octave in our voices. And also, I don't know, you know, I want to be surrounded by Austrians in little outfits like come on, it does fun you know what I mean though, Like yeah, and to have some guy in the house named barn something Bonds, Stroker or something like that, like something bizarre, something inviting though, but bizarre and just you know, running around in the fucking green hills and yodal and ship the little outfit with you know, the suspenders and stuff.

Yeah, and you want to live with that, I guess want to live with a guy who's like warm, but he also has a whistle, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, it's all funny guys, but I do have a whistle and I will use it and that's dinner time.

Yeah, and you know, like me and that cowboy, I can smell that at house.

Yeah, it's the realism. If that film is astonishing, I think, yeah, it does feel.

Do you feel like you're you're there in the little outfits? Yeah, and you're like just just singing your ass off in the hills. You know, the hills are alive, by the.

Way, Oh they're terrifying. But also every time you're saying good night, you never say good night, you sing it. You know it's time time for bed, time for song that's felt. Well, it's like a documentary, isn't it. I can see how you feel about that. It's a lovely answer.

Yeah, and you don't have to be Look, I just have one more thing to say about this.

Please.

There's no right in the context of the answer to your question. So you don't have to be scared about the hills being alive, because it looked like you were scared for a moment. So let me look. Listen to my words. The hills are alive with the sound of music.

Oh okay. I thought they they had like cannibal creatures in them. They were the eyes. The hills had eyes and they were gonna like eat. But that's not what's living in them.

The hills are alive with the sound of music.

Okay, Okay, I feel better about it. Sorry, I freaked out. That's on me. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Vincaid, the sexiest film I've ever seen? That's a really good question. Thanks. Thanks.

I mean, I know a lot of people think this, but Paddington there too.

Oh too. I mean I knew everyone felt that way about the first one. No, no, what about the sequel? Well, I mean, you either know or you don't know, I guess, but yeah, I do. You know what. I think it's because I was so spent after the first one. I didn't I didn't think it could get sexier. But you're probably right. Yeah, it's one of the few sexy sequels that's more sexy.

Well, if you ever do it, if you ever watch both of them again, hydrate.

After the first one. Yeah, you really have to be prepared. That's a slug if you're doing that, if you're going in a double bit.

You know, there's also sea moss. You know that, right, you can get jars of sea moss. Right, it comes in like a gel in the jar, just so that you you're not spent for the second one.

Oh right, you just you just put it on there, put it on you.

No no, no you no no no no no no no no no you you put it in your morning drink. Oh you just mix it in with a tea spirit, Okay, and it stays. It's it's really good to not I don't know, without getting too specific, to not be spent.

I'm order Someoneline. Now there's a sub category to this question. I don't know how you take it, because I feel like you've gone hard on the first. The subcategory is troubling bonds worrying why dones. It's a film you found arousing that you weren't sure that you should have. But I don't know how how you feel about that, because you're you know, proud of pasiging too, as you should be. So I don't know what you're shamedful.

One is oh, shameful one. That's tough. It's tough to get shamed by a film.

I mean if you don't, if all your bonus are proud, I respect that, you know. Not everyone can answer this question. Some people don't have troubling bonus. They're all good, you know.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not ashamed of Yeah, I'm not ashamed of my favorite movie being Sound of Music or my success movie being Patting to Bear Too. Respect Like, I'm not ashamed at all.

Shouldn't. I think that's great? What is the film that you could or have? What's the most? Over and over again, I gave you a bit too much energy. I don't know if you listened, because forward you did.

Every time you do that, yeah, yeah, it gets me a little overwhelmed. I watch Patting to Be Too way too often. I watch it way too often. I watched Paddington Bear too, way too often.

Yeah, it's a this is a fucking perfect film. You know, I can't argue with it. What about the worst film? What's the worst film you've ever seen?

Oh, my gosh, like from the Gecko from the first time I saw it. Yeah, there was one I can't I can't remember the title, but it was about citizen band radios and trucks in like big eighteen wheelers. It was called like, you know, some name that had to do with talking in one of those things when you said goodbye or something like ten four, not ten four, but like good buddy, yeah, good buddy, you know, like something. I don't think that was the man of the film.

Good buddy. Could be one about dead dad films that we make, Yeah, because it's sort of it misleads you in the same way like oh yeah, like oh yeah, that'd be fine, and we're good buddy, that'd be fine. Night that dad dies, right, it's not so good, yeah, not so good buddy buddy. At the end, Yeah, we tricked you.

Yeah, I tried to tell you, good buddy.

I tried to warn you good buddy. Good buddy means over and out.

Now, yeah, I'm not shrip does, but yeah, I think it does. Over and out would be yeah, what happened to Dad? Over and out? Yeah?

Yeah, good buddy, buddy.

There is something sweet about it though. You have to admit, like you could just say buddy, but instead you'd like put the good in front of there. Yeah, it's smart, it's smart writing, Thank you.

What is the funniest what's the film that made you laugh the most?

The first half of Barth?

Yeah, I remember in the second half, does it get does does he? It's not a film where he learns not to drink? Right? Is he doesn't learn that he's an alcoholic and he has to stop drinking and he.

Never learns anything. And yeah, the funniest thing about the movie is that he never learns a thing. Yeah, yeah, good and that Yeah, that money is everything. That's the funniest thing about the actually says that, Yeah, having Liza Manilla Manelli not Manella. Yeah, yeah, Manila is like a poisoning, right, Manella poisoning or something like?

I think it's just an envelope, isn't it. It's a type of envulape.

Like a Manila envelope. I think I'm saying it wrong. Anyway. None of what we just said has anything to do with Liza Minelli.

No, who is it?

So if you have Liza Minelli in your life and you have a lot of money, that's the moral to that story. Life is good, buddy.

Yeah, life is good, buddy. Life's good, buddy. Life is good, buddy. Vincent, sir, you know what a time, what a time we've had. You've been wonderful, and you wouldn't know for a second that you had no idea what this what this show was. However, in ten years time, when you play king Lear Bearefoot, you're on stage. I was sat behind the seven women the Women's League who were in the front row, and they were they were like this the whole the whole play.

Well, Daredevil's coming out. We'll we got to shoot it first and it'll come out.

Okay.

Yeah, there's lots of things that I can't talk about, but yeah, there's things coming Okay, cool stuff.

Vincent, You've been in absolute joy and a delight. Thank you for your time. I thank you enjoyed this as much as I have. I have thoroughly enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you, Vincent, have a wonderful life. I look forward to your leah.

Good day to you, sir, Thank you very much.

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