Look out. It's only films to be buried with the Resurrection. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with the Resurrection. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, a director, a Bonsai gardener, and I love films. As David Beckham once said, people just assume over the years that soccer players are not intelligent. As with most assumptions, they're wrong. I've watched the Kristoph Kislovski Three Colors trilogy and I really not only understood it, I loved it.
Fair Play, David, excellent films, good shout. Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. But not this week. This week I use my newly acquired shamanic powers to bring back a former guest from the dead, and I asked them twelve brand new questions. And this week it
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question your relationships. July third, I will be doing a live Films to be Buried with at the Underbelly Festival with an amazing guest. Get your tickets online somewhere on the internet. Look it up. Films will be buried with live podcast Underbelly Festival. I'll see you there, a real life thing with people in the room and everything like that. What right, This is episode one hundred and fifty. You come a long way, baby, I said I'd do two
hundred of these. We are three quarters of the way there, So thank you all for listening and making this so special. I do really appreciate it. It It was just a thing to try, and here we are, one hundred and fifty episodes later, and I thought to celebrate this one, I would resurrect the robot Overlord, the master of the Distraction Pieces Network, and the man who helped and encouraged me to start this podcast in the first place, the actor, artist,
podcaster and corner boy himself, mister Scrubious Pip. We recorded this a couple of weeks back. It was a very lovely time and very nice to catch up with him. I think you will love it. So thank you once again to everyone who listens to this show. And that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and fifty of Films to be Buried
with the Resurrection. No, I think I'm good. Yesterday I thought I've not got any good answers for any of these questions, and then I had a pooh fleshed him out and I think some crackers. Now, okay you want Hello and welcome to Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. I am joined today by an actor, a writer, a rapper, a poet, a runner, a salmon uplifter, a beard wrestler, a MMA referee, a podcaster, a writer, and a human robot man. Please welcome to the show. The man, the legend,
the corner Boy himself is mister scrimas Bet. Hello, mate, Hi, how are you welcome back to the show. It's exciting to be back, mate. I'm glad you've highlighted the uplifting of the of the salmon community. I do. I really put a lot of time into building their spirits. Forgot what it's called salmon ladder. It's a salmon ladder. You know a lot of people say that I'm responsible for their motivation to swim upstream. You're just at the side of the rivers going go on, Lad's good Scooby's Pip.
Since we last spoke, you've had quite the life blood Dale. Now tell the listeners. You got a massive part in a massive, huge NBC show called Debris. Congratulations. You went off to Canada to film it, and then Canada went into lockdown and you were trapped to the house for how long before you started filming? Well, there was two months before I started filming. So the pandemic started while we were finishing the pilot, so I got to come home.
I was on set on the Friday night at like one am, and then I was on a plane by about eleven o'clock on the Saturday because they were about to close all the airports. Sometimes get me home. And then I assumed the pilot was dead and it wasn't going to happen and then we got taken to series, so I flew back out and yeah, all sorts of delays, none of which COVID related really other than the two week quarantine. It meant. Yeah, it was two months of being in an airbnb before I made it to set.
And I think that is the longest scene ever shot, because the first thing I was doing was wrapping up the pilot, So that pilot was, or that scene in the pilot was nine months in making. How long does it play on screen? Under a minute? I'd say under a minute, and they edited it as well, probably under thirty seconds. Wedd me this Now, what's interesting about you? I know you, and you know I'm a fan. You tend to you like the idea of being alone. You
like to do stuff. You're what you know, troubling was the word troubling loaner, scary loaner, Yes, troubling loaners. You're one of the troubling loaners, worrying, worrying solo boys, pidons. But so we also like people and social interaction stuff. You were kind of forced into this situation of actually genuinely being alone for at least like two months, where you were in a country you didn't know, you didn't know anyone, and there was a lockdown and you're in
an airbnb. How was that? And did you think I don't like being a laner as much as I thought I did or was it a dream? I struggled massively, brett, mentally, physically, in every way. But yeah, it's the two things I think that made it harder. Was Number one, I hadn't thought about being on a different time zone, so by about two pm in the afternoon, everyone I knew was asleep. So it was a new loneliness kind of thing because there's not anyone to message, or even there's not anyone
you really know post on social media or anything. It's all it's all happened. But the other thing was you also know, because I think it's one of the things that we connected on is we're both workaholics in many ways and we like creating, and our creative worlds were on hold as well. So I found it really hard to get motivated to work on scripts, to work on anything else because it felt like, well, weirdly, it's always the case that it's not going to happen for many
years with most scripts or anything you work on. But knowing that literally no meetings, no one was going to pat you on the back and say that's good, that's good, this might happen someday, just made me really struggle to get motivated creatively. So yeah, it was a weird one. The first that two week or I think it was a ten day quarantine in Canada. That was a struggle. But part of that was I wasn't allowed to leave my Airbnb and jet lag. You know, jet lag makes
you more emotional. It's like as planes make you more emotional. Jet lag also makes you a bit of a broken character. So yeah, the first four or five days I was I was furious about my airbnb, which is I ended up living in really happily for seven months. But I was looking up other options. I was looking up the legality of canceling it. I was looking at where else I could stay. I was looking up all sorts of stuff. And then I kind of calmed down and oh, it's fine,
it's just I'm just a bit sleepy. Yeah, but yeah, it did get a lot better out there, and there was like the work was amazing, Like, yeah, you know as well that sets can be really hit and miss. The tone on a set. The vibe on a set can really influence how that whole job goes. But the two leads on this were amazing, the show runner was amazing, and everyone involved. I always forget the terms. Is it the third ad who runs kind of the base area? Third?
Our third was just the most positive person in the world ever. So it just genuinely always felt like a ah, here I am. In fact, I've got a story about that that I'll tell you on the first question. But yeah, I think things like that really made it a joy
to be on set. But then, as you also know, you get scripts an episode at a time, and you'll be scanning to see how much you're in it if you're in it, and every now and then I'd at one point where I hadn't been in Oh, I knew I wasn't in for three weeks, And then I got the next script through and I wasn't in it, so I knew that that was another two weeks or three weeks.
In those periods of time, what were you doing, Like, what were you doing in the three weeks when you weren't filming and you were in watching a lot of stuff? And again that's a massive thing for me It made me love and appreciate this whole industry more because finding good TV shows really helped I go for a lot
of long walks. I've got some kettlebells and stuff, so I was doing a lot of home workouts, and I got weirdly into schedules, Like there were points where I'm waiting to be on set and then i get my filming date through and I'm working on a Wednesday, and I'm like, I've got my plans on a Wednesday. Wednesdays when I do my big workout and I get a takeaway and the rest of the week the west of the midweek, I'm very healthy, but I do a big
workout and against a takeaway on a Wednesday. So I'd get all grumpy that I've been waiting to be on set. It's like any other day and I would have been happy, but that's the main day that I haven't planned out. So yeah, I got weirdly regimented. Yeah, those runes were the hardest after that two month wait where I watched all of the Sopranos and just all sorts of stuff
like that. Oh, I let my guard down. I was prepared for a wait at the beginning I'd prepared a lot of TV shows I was going to watch, but when we got up and rolling, I was like, oh, we're up and rolling now. So when I had Yeah, there was a six or seven week period in the middle that I had no time on it. And it's because the episode I was in, they happened to shoot my scene on the first day of that episode, and then I wasn't in the next one and a half.
I was the in the third, but I was the last scene, so it just timing just left this huge gap and that was again, yeah, tough, because you can't so we were we were the only show in that period in Vancouver. I think that didn't get shut down for COVID because everyone was being such a team player and not taking any risks, not doing any socializing. But yeah,
that made it tough at points. What fucking date, man, Now you're back, You're back in England and I assume seeing friends and people and stad was it like overwhelmed? We like, oh fuck, this is too much or is it like well? That was another thing that got me through was that to keep reminding myself that I'm not away from normal life like if I've been in the UK I wouldn't have been seeing people, and that was
a really hard thing to get in my head. In my head, I'm missing all my friends and all my family. It's like, no that I wouldn't have seen them anyway. And since I've been back, I've not seen any of my pals, but I've seen I've seen my mom and dad and brother and my partner all outside or you know whoever's in my bubble inside. But yeah, I've not been going crazy on it because being on a production trained me well, if you know what I mean. I was like, I don't mind wearing a mask, I don't
mind not going out and and taken precultures. It's made a big difference. Again, it's all psychological, man, But knowing that I'm near in that period, my dad had to have some surgery and all sorts of things like that, which not being near, It's not like I would have been around there. It's not like I could have done anything. But not being near really put me in a weird place, and all friends and family in a pandemic. It's like, I'm not going to see them, But if something happened
and I had to, I couldn't. It wasn't an option because again, particularly with the quarantines, so if I had to pop home for anything, I would have had to quarantine for fourteen days here and then ten days when I get back. So it literally wasn't an option. Christmas and New Year weren't an option because we didn't have enough of a gap to fly home quarantine for two weeks, have Christmas Day, and then fly back quarantine for ten days.
What did you do on Christmas Day? Not a lot? Mate. Again, everyone was asleep, but two no earlier on Christmas because people fall asleep early, so about midday, everyone I knew was asleep. But yeah, I got a takeaway. I watched some films at a lovely time. I did do a lot of walks around a creek near me because I think it improved a lot of other people's Christmas to hear someone with my accent say Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, young man. It made everyone feel a little bit more
Dickensian in Canada. So yeah, I did a bit of walk in. I did a bit of hanging out on Christmas Eve. Actually, one of the producers and a few of the people in our cast bubble all have some food around there's and man again, as you know, I'm not that socially guy. Man, I appreciated being invited to that. Yeah, I still left early. It's me but I had a lovely time minutes of that, but yeah, had a lovely time.
I socialized and then I walked home with some headphones on and feeling all Christmas and yeah it was good. That's I mean, man, you really that's a that's heavy. That's really quite her core. It's been a weak respect to you surviving that. Listen. Debris is not here in England yet, but I did see the first twenty minutes when they do the teas fucking brilliant and you're the opener, you're the code opening. It looked great. I'm opening it
all up. My question is if you haven't answer to this, having now done, I assume that's the biggest production you've done. That's a huge role wise, definitely like or my involvement. Is there anything you've learned knew that you could tell us in a succinct sound way bigger questions I've continued to learn. I love it like it's still amazing on all levels. I've learned there's constant compromise artistically, personally, all sorts, but that's part of the game and it's motivated me
all the more to turn number one do more. It was a really weird one because, as you will also know, we didn't get a series too. There's still a chance of it being shocked about. But it was such a weird one to be tied because I was signed on for five seasons and it's such a weird thing in anything artistic doing it and knowing I absolutely adore it, but my mind works in the what am I missing out on? And I had a few things that I missed out on because I was doing it, which again
it's for fine. I was doing something I adored. It also made me think you've got to be really careful on what you're signed onto, because if I didn't adore it, then that would have been heartbreaking. Because the things I missed out on were really good shows, shows I've wanted to be part of for years, but I was more than happy to pass. And one of them, I think I mentioned it online was Peaky Blinders. I got offered a part in Peaky Blinders, a small part, and you
know that's very much my kind of show. Yeah, but I was like, well, I mean, it's a shame, but I was amazed at how unfazed I was because I'm working on a show that I'm having input in, I'm going back and forth with the show runners. It's a character I'm developing and working on. It was a dream. But yeah, it made me even more adamant to be cautious and selective on what I do rather than go Actors, similar to comedians, seem constantly scared that someone else is
going to take their position in the industry. But if I turned down this role, then that's me over someone else will get it. Like I've talked to a lot of comedians about it over the fringe, about the Fringe this year, so many people so pleased to take a year off from the fringe without the fear that someone else is there taking their position and getting their opportunities. And yeah, I think also partly because I'm new to it, there's an overthing of oh, someone's offering me a role me, Oh,
how beautiful, how kind of you? But you, yeah, you do need to be selective on these things and careful. So yeah, it's made me even more I've always been on that route, but it's made me even more on that. It's it's firmed up that belief that you need to select carefully and work with fucking awesome people. Fuck yeah, scrubious pimp. You have been brought back to life. Welcome to the planet again. But what point in your life have you come back to? What will you change? What
will stay the same? Hello? Welcome back, Thanks mate, Hello, don't have to answer those questions or yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you've been brought back to your life from your death. Where would you like to be brought back to him? Now? I'll come back to just at the start of the hellish quarantine in Canada. No, no, I won't be horrendous. No, yeah, I come back. I come back to now. I really would. I wouldn't want to have missed any of your wonderful previous episodes, Brett so but also I don't want to
go through any of them again. Yeah, I'd come back to now. I think there is an air of if you can find it, there's an air of positivity. I think everyone has been taken down a Notcho two because of the pandemic that we've just been through. Not saying I think a pan the damn it was what we needed but you know, everyone's been taken down a notch or two. Everyone's been reminded of the immortality. And I've just been reminded of my immortality as I've come back
from the dead, so I've got the advantage. Well, welcome back. You've been resurrected, and on Earth things have changed a bit since you died. People are sort of more obsessed with films than they used to be, and which is weird because obviously TV is quite big at the moment. But yeah, no, people still obsessed with films and they want to talk about you through films. And the first question is what is the last film that you saw? Sreous pit. The last film I saw was Holy Motors. Ah,
that film. I haven't seen that film. I'm on a bit of David Levant obsession at the moment, and I enjoyed Holy Motors. But I've seen three of his films so far, and it's my third favorite. Okay, but it's really good. I think he's just mind blowing. I haven't seen his other films. Are they all mad? He's the lead actor in it. Another film he was in called bold a Travail, which is Clared Denny. Is it Clared Denny or Clared Dennis. I don't know, but I think
she's amazing and he's amazing in that. But the other film I saw of his was by the director of Holy Motors, and it was called Lovers on the Bridge, Okay, and it's one of the best things I've ever seen. His performance in that is mind blowing. And this is the story I was going to tell you about the third ad because I'd heard about this. I'd heard about this film Lovers on the Bridge from who was it? I heard talking about it. I heard someone talking about
it on another podcast. There's a podcast that's about that people go and talk in theaters. I can't remember the name of the podcast, but it was it was Jesse Buckley who was talking about it and she recommended it. I love we worked together on Taboo. She's amazing. We yeah, I think it's been so good watching her just do
better and better. And she mentioned this film and I struggled to find it, but then I found it on Blu Ray while as Canada ordered it popped it into my PS three which I've taken with me, and it's the wrong region, so I was like, oh man, I can't watch it. And then I had this break for I was like, you know this, all film trailers completely unneeded, have a little TV and a DVD player. I've never used them. Why are you going to be watching a film in costume on set? I was like, I'm taking
this to set. And so I said to Michelle Fish, who was a third it was amazing, I said, I said to her. After one day, I was like, look, at some point we're going to be here for filming. You're going to wrap me and I'm not going to want my car home for two hours because I'm going to sit in my trailer and watch a film. I explain the whole story. She was like, this is the best, right,
We've got a mission. This is amazing. So I turned up for set one day and I get out of the car and she goes, Pip, have you got the Blu ray? And I was like, what's happened? And She's like, we're running behind quite a bit and I think today could be the day. So I was all right, I'm still not sure. I'm not sure if I want to watch it pre filming. This feels madness. After filming, maybe pre it feels dangerous, partly because of professionalism, partly because
you and me. No, if you can't stop a film, yeah, I'm not being interrupted, that's hell. So I did. I was like, look, let's let's not hedge bet. So I do hear and makeup. I did hear and makeup. I got in costume and at that point, and my character is in prison, so my costume is essentially pajamas. So it's perfect for watching a film. So I get my lunch, eat my lunch, I get a little cake, go to Michelle. I was like, how are we looking. She's like, look,
we're still two scenes away. I was like, but they're short scenes, right. She's like yeah, but they're in different locations. So there's going to be receptions like I think you watched the film and I was nervous, and I did. I popped it on. I'm in the trayalists, so I'm feeling like a film style, you know, all of this is still new to me, and I feel completely out of place constantly, and I was like, oh my god, come on set. So I put it on and I
crank up the volley. I've got a little sound bars, so it's given me this nice, this good sound, and it like literally as I put the blue ray and it starts to rain outside, to rain on the outside of my little caravan. It's so perfect. And I watched it got all the way through, literally all the way through, no one knocking and no one interrupting, and it is a beautiful film. It's just his performance. He plays a homeless guy in it. They both play homeless people in it,
and it's just amazing. I assumed that that's somehow found this amazing homeless person, and then I found out he's one of the classic French actors of this era. We've finished it. I digested it for five minutes. I started going over my lines to get back into the scene. I had a knock on the door to say fifteen minute warning. It was perfect, and I told people. I caught up with friends and family the next day and I said I had the best day on set I've
ever had. And then I told the story and they're but none of this is to do with acting or the show or the scene. You know, but no, but you'll know how hard it is to time, because the worst thing is if you've got a two three hour weight and you're just sitting there on the edge of your seat, the whole time. So not only did the film fall perfectly, it filled that gap. I would have had two hours of going I'm ready, I'm ready. I don't want to get two relaxed and I want to
get two out of character or whatever. It was perfect. That's wonderful. But yeah, I mean I totally get that, you absolutely nailed it. But Holy Motors is amazing as well. It's good. Did it really good? And it's really good. It's an illustration of him as an actor. It's basically the dream role for any actor, because it's like you're going to play ten different characters that they're going to get to see you transform. They're going to get to see what an absolute master you are, and it's this
weird You're this weird dude. And yeah, I loved it. And every time you think you get a handle on it, we're going to change the role. Every Yeah, yeah, very good. Yeah, scribbiest Pip, Who do you think should play you in the film of your life? Well? A bit of an obvious answer here, Brett, but I think it should be me because to cast someone who hasn't got a stutter to play a character with a stutter would be disgraceful. And I'm the only actor out there that's really got
I've not met any others. Just basically, if people start to write more roles with Stutters, I would have to get every gig because it would be a crime. You're the only representation. You're the only one out there. There can't be many. I can't be the only one out there, but there's not a lot. So if I played you, it would be really offensive. It's so offensive even you saying that out loud, you could get canceled. But but even if I'm like, but I know him really well.
I've spent Lotovia, it's not you know, I'm not like you know, And I wouldn't play it for laughs or anything to really respect. I know damn well that if that room was private, you would have said, but I know him really well to try and get a gig.
But that aside, and this is going to sound like an arrogant one now, but genuinely, before he became a national heartthrob, the one time I've been mistaken for someone else, it was hugely embarrassing because I was doing the Camden Crawel and it was the first time that me and Danasaka started to feel, oh man, are we are we famous? Like we'd had a queue outside our gig around the corner. And I went to another gig and this woman came to two people who have been at a gig's gig,
asked for a photo. I had a photo and this this middle aged woman saw and she came over and said, I know who you are. And I was like, all right, cool, and she's like, I'm not going to interrupt you that, but you know, I'm going to leave you to your day, but I know who you are? Is all right cool? She's like Ryan Goslin and I was like, oh no, no, sorry. I was being all all timid and humble because I thought she knows who I am. I'm Screwby Witch. You're Ryan Goslin And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no no
I'm not. And this was like half Nelson hera, so it's before it was a heart, probably was a bit scruffy, and I was like, no I'm not. She's like, it's okay, I know it's you. I just want you to know I think you're really talented. I was like no, no, honestly, no, you made a mistake that I'm not going to interrupt you. I know it's you, just literally it was the yt awkward, an embarrassing thing because I thought, oh, I've been recognized, but I Hadn't you do look a bit like him?
I reckon, he's talented enough to get back back down to my level of attractiveness. I think he's talented enough that we would forgive him playing a stattering part exactly exactly. So yeah, i'd go fair. That's a good choice for Ryan Goslin. Speaking of Ryan Goslin, Screwbysit. What's the most romantic film you've ever seen? Now, I've got a list of films here, and I've got a bit of a rant.
So the one that came to mind first was one twenty BPM And I talked about this on your sister podcast Cuddle Club, because I talked about this for Best Hug on Screen Huge, And I asked, is a hand job a cuddle? No, it's a very located, it's a very specific, but there's a hand job scene in this that is one of the most beautiful and romantic moments everyone. It's in a hospital. But then I was thinking of other most romantic What did Lily? What did Lily say,
did she say hand job? She said it wasn't until I pushed her on it, and again this sounds very me too, but I argued my point and she said a clear no, and I said, look, just hear me out that a man's blinder, it is, and she said,
now you're right. Okay, Yeah. But the other films I had were Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Ammonite's, God's Own Country, Beach Rats, and they're all gay cinema, and I had this realization that in heteronormative romantic films, the goal is always to fall in love, and in most queer cinema, the goal is to fuck, and that's about it. And then the falling in love then means all the
more and is all the more powerful. And even you know, I'd argue against that in Portrait of a Lady of Fire, of a Lady on Fire maybe, and Ammonite, because the goal isn't to get laid, but it certainly isn't to fall in love. None of the characters that are there looking for love, and in hetero love stories it's nearly always at least one of them is searching for it, or it's implied at least and it feels like gay cinema gets to miss that cliche more often than not.
That makes it all the more powerful that when they do find love, it's all the more beautiful because it wasn't either of the character's end goal. It's almost particularly in Ammonite's, there's a huge reluctance. It's completely against what either of the characters want are looking for, and man, that makes it more powerful. So what's your answer? Amn't it? No,
I'm going to stick with One twenty BPM. But it was, Yeah, it just it surprised me that all the films I was going through were all all gays in the ons. Really interesting. Yeah, um and yeah, I realized that that was the theme. That's very interesting. I think about One twenty BPM a lot. That film has really really stayed with me. I think that beautiful, isn't it. It's come better, It's come to the four again after the amazing what
was the TV series? It's it's a scene of course it was, and that did a beautiful job of telling the UK story that One twenty BPM tells the French story of the same era, the same period. The acting in one twenty ppm as well that's one of them films where it's like this must be an I don't understand how any of these people are acting. Yeah, it's so natural, amazing. I love that. Um, what is the best film you ever saw that you never want to
see again? And a good, good, good thing about this And the answer is Honeyboy, all right, good one, And the reason I never want to see it again is Shia la Bouf's. It's also it's more than that because this I think it's a wonderful, wonderful film. I really enjoyed it. But it also excuses Shai la Bouf's actions a bit because it is kind of his story of his childhood, which was very rough and very horrible. You then add that Fka Twigs is in it, who is
Her performance is astounding. I think she's a wonderful artist and to hear what he put her through is heartbreaking. So it's a really In general, I struggle with films of people who have been outed as abusers, but this one jumped out because it's almost his. Yeah, but if you know what I mean, and again it's true as well. I do think there is that thing of most people
when does the victim become the the the abuser. He was abused in many different ways in his childhood, so he's the one that we're sympathetic too, and then when he starts to repeat some of these actions, he's rightfully the one that we're we're hating on. And I think it's really complex, and I do think fuck Shila Booth, but then I also think fuck Shyla Booth with help and therapy and assistance and fuck him. Well, you know, I think I think he needs it's it's it's a
tough one, man. I think all of these things are tough ones. I think cancel culture is hugely exaggerated. But also I think there's something there, and we're too quick to make the solution to everything that person's career is over, rather than that person deserves to suffer the consequences. But I also leaving rehabilitation rather than punishment in most situations, and I think that's what our prison system is meant to be. It's meant to be rehabilitation. It's not meant
to be punishment. It's meant to be it doesn't work because of the way they're run. But yeah, that's yeah, that's why I struggle. I really enjoyed Honeyboy, and I got to enjoy it for a very short amount of time before everything came out. There's like, nah, massively fucked this guy before you wanted to fuck him. Well, yeah, yeah, it's very interesting. But to fuck him with love and we've understanding and with some kind of I don't know,
as said, he's someone who's been through some shit. And that's what irks me about that film is it makes me more sympathetic to someone who I would normally be let's just get rid of this absolute dickhead. Very interesting, screvious pit. Tell me this day, what's the best action film you've ever seen? Now? This feels a lot less interesting because it feels really obvious. But it's conn Air, isn't it. Isn't it? I could think about it. Yeah,
I couldn't think about anything. I enjoyed more. I went towards things like On Back, which were kind of a bit of a crossover of a martial arts and action. The Raid and Dread were both in there, but I think all of the others have some kind of tinge of credibility to get them away from simply being an action film. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's not it's not just an action film as the action films. Really it's an action film. It's very much an action film. You don't have to justify it. It
doesn't try to justify it. It's got Cusack, it's got Cage, it's got I mean, it's got questionable characters and lines, I guess, but yeah, it's a lot of fun. You could have corn air. I'm not taken that away from you. What screams Pip. Of all the films that exist, if you had to, which fl film do you think you could have made? And why it's when the question is no, one's a turly feel what it means, including me, But
I think you get it. Oh, oh, you've got some questions on the patron exclusive that I've got a lot to discuss with you on because I'm not happy with several of them. But we'll get to that exclusively over on Patreon. Great, great, great, a little advert there, Brett mid I thought about this. The obvious answer is a clerks or something, because they're they're famously the point of
them clerks is punk bands. Like half of the point is to make you think I could do that, And that's half of the thing that's exciting about them, but the one I've gone for because it is the film that not so much made me think I could do that, but made me think I want to do that. And man, I'm bringing in a gambit of troubling people. But it's a Buffalo sixty six, right, Yeah, I could see you
making Buffalo sixty six. Actually, it's got just the right level of pretension for me, but it feels achievable and I'm standable enough. It's got just the right amount of references to kind of French and European cinema, but probably haven't actually watched as much as I want people to think it's got everything there. But yeah, Buffalo sixty six for a long time was my favorite film, and I think it was the first kind of indie film I saw properly that made or indie slash art. It's a
bit of an art house film. Yeah, it was one of the first ones. And then that made me go, old, man, this is a thing, and it was. It was. It was a proper or to It was written, directed, starring music by you know, it's real. Yeah, who's the dad Ben Gazzara? Is that the dad in it? I think so, I think so. Yeah, And what's his name? Just popping
in them Mickey Rourke with a little cameo. Yeah. What I love about Vincent Gallo is when he made I believe it was the brand Bunny, which was sort of universally nutlike, but it may have also been to do with Buffalo sixty six. We're pulling it now. He drove across country America to beat up all the critics he'd given him a bad review. Yeah, yeah, I really respect that. Which, speaking of Kevin Smith, that then got written into Jay and Silent Bob strikes Back or whatever. That was the
big ending, wasn't it. I'm no fan of violence, and I don't think it's ever justified, except when it's Vincent Galley driving about his film I Love It. For a long time had a note of the name of one critic of one of my albums because I was I swore that if I ever met him in real life,
I was going to punch him in the face. And the reason being was I think people have started to forget that there's consequences in the real world to what goes on online, and I think we see it a lot on Twitter, a lot on these kind of things, and this particular article had written a bad review of one of my records, but had theorized that I'm racist,
and that really annoyed and offended me. And I'm not going to drop some of my best mates are black, but I've got black family who are younger than me who it was a real moment in my life, just a heartbreak. I thought, the idea of them being racially abused, it would make me so angry. Like my niece who I used to babysit since she was like that big. The thought of that adorable child being abused because of
a skin color would infuriate me. So his theory of it came from I'd been asking an interview who some of my favorite rappers were, and I think, off the top of my head, i'd said some white rappers, and again, I like a lot of different rappers, and I would in reality, I would now make sure I didn't just give a list of white rappers, because I think that is damaging and it is an art that has come from the black communion. It's important to pay correct homage
in that way. So I get the point there, But to write in an article that I'm likely racist or have racist tendencies just infuriated me. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah, it's it's beyond I mean, my first album or second album got a note point two out of ten in Pitchfork, and I didn't make note of the journalists there. I've not threatened to beat anyone up. So it's not a bad reviews thing. It's a that's offensive to say thing. Yeah, you know, I'd say that's totally legit. What is the
film you have pretended to like to impress people? By impressed people, do you mean get through a podcast with the star of said film. Let's say yes, because because I think I'm good at lying to myself. Because when I had Michael Fassbender on, I genuinely enjoyed The Snowman, and when I think back, I don't think it was great. And when I had Kevin Smith on, I genuinely enjoyed Jay and signent Abob the Reboot, and when I think
back now, I don't know if it holds up. I think I enjoyed it because of nostalgia that we previously may there. And Yeah, I think I'm good at lying to myself because genuinely, I've had ones where someone has got work I'm not a fan of and I've just dodged past it or I've turned down the interview. But those two I genuinely raved about the films, and I've had people furious with me going up, what do you mean? So I remember texting you about the snow Man. Yeah,
is it okay? But on the podcast I said, and I stand by I think what I liked was it felt like a BBC crime thing, and I think that was actually the fact it was. It seemed a bit amateurish in places, it didn't feel as filmic and cinematic. Yeah, I enjoyed it at the time, And again I would have in private, I would have fought my own corner. I'm sure I did them. I'm sure I didn't just
say no. It was just for the interview. But yeah, the more I think back or see clips from stuff that I was like, Oh I rated that, I think, Oh, am I just good at lying to myself? Am I good at going? I really want to talk to Michael Fassbender. I think he's amazing. You'd best enjoy this film. That's a good skill. I also do think that we have a really important thing that we need to hold true too is we often get to see films before the public or the critics have told us if we should
like it or not. And I think on that one, I watched it and enjoyed it, and by the time I was about to do the interview, it started to get a bit of hate. And I think that made me more resolute to the No, just because you've told me it's rubbish. I watched it at the time and I thought it was amazing. So just because you're all telling me it's rubbish now I'm not having it. But yeah, I think it made me maybe more resolute on that to go. Man, it's kind of a masterpiece. Is it
the greatest film ever? It might be. I mean the choice to cast an actor who couldn't put together a sentence in Val Kilmer at this point was so powerful. The choice not to film twenty five of the script was powerful. What is the film you've never seen that you think it's mad? You've never seen it? Brace yourself, Brett. It's Paddinton too, That is mad. What is the film you love that you don't expect anyone else to like? Are we moving on that quickly? Okay? Well, it seems
I've seen that. Reason I do the Resurrection is for that. For that question. The film I love that I don't back to anyone else to like is Killer Joe. Go on,
I've seen Killer Joe. I like that. The reason I don't expect anyone else to like it is it's the first film I raved about two people that I then got abusive messages back after I made them sit through it or That and What Way of the Gun and the first two films that I was like blown away by, and Killer Joe stands out because I recommend it to to Amy Ballman of the Mum and Muma podcast and Network for You, and her and her partner at the time watched it and messaged me going, what the fuck
have you just made us sit through? And I think it made me realize that there are certain things that I've very much an acquired taste, and I think, yeah, I don't notice that enough again on my first album. I'm having flashbacks now. But on my first album I talk about death a lot, and it was only when the reviews came out that people saying it's all quite morbid, even the positive reviews where it's quite morbid, but it's important to talk about these things. I didn't realize that
we don't talk about death much. I just didn't know that. And yeah, I've had that with numerous films and numerous other things. So people will think of me as this bleak or morbid or morose person, but it will just be like, oh no, I just didn't know there's certain things for certain times. I thought everything was for every time. And I guess I probably recommended Killer Joe to a couple on a Friday night and it might not be
a couple's Friday night film. But I loved it. It's one of my favorite It's just yeah, yeah, yeah, Killer Joe is also it's where I first saw Love of my Life. Tina Temple yes exactly incredible in Killer Joe. Yeah, absolutely, performance and McConaughey's performance just astounding in my opinion, and then later finding out it was a play, and that's why it's kind of it didn't feel like a film.
It had something, But I think they did a really good job of because I think it can be bad when you adapt a play and essentially you've just filmed a play, because film and the theater are very different art forms, from the acting to the directing too. Everything in my obviously plays a boring Yeah exactly. I think they kept the beauty of the play in there, but yeah, yeah they did. What's the film you would show a lover as a test to see if you should be together.
It's uncomfortable time break because it's Super Bowl. I always get superbove in, but genuinely with my partner, and we both adored it, and I've watched it at least four or five times at that point. And this comes back to the thing of because I don't know that there's certain things that aren't for certain times. I think people often from an ounce from the outside, have an opinion of me as being quite dark, quite brooding, or whatever else.
Like there was another day years ago that a girl came over and I was like, you've got to watch this film, and it was Dead Man's Shoes and I love it. But it ended and she was like, I mean, it was great, but why have we watched that. I'm so sad, like I'm saying this is miserable. When I was like, we go to bed, Yeah, I just feel great. I didn't think about it. There's anything other than a
great film. So super Bob is that one, because it's so as I tell you all the time, it's so beautifully addresses love and happiness and positivity, and at no point point feels saccharin or cheesy over the top. And I think I love that ship too. Just because you might know that I'm putting on this really weird, I've written loads of songs about suicide or whatever else. I also think these things are beautiful when they're done right. So yeah, you're very nice, crewious Pits. I appreciate it,
And you're right. If you show a date superb and they don't like it, you immediately should break up. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense if that's the you know, that's sort of the message of the film I played it. I love the idea of it. As your answer to that question, Yeah, if you don't like this, you enjoying this. You enjoying this, You enjoying it. You didn't laugh at that bit was wrong. This is basically an advert for being in a relationship with me. So how you feeling about it? This is
what it's like. Yeah, it's going to be this awkward. Yeah? Uh well what is thank you? Though? What is the film that made you the most uncomfortable? Now? I've kind of got a prelude to my answer here because I'm reading uncomfortable as as as unwanted uncomfortableness, because I go and see every Gasperno film in the cinema for the uncomfortableness.
Like there's a lot of things I enjoy at home, but Gasperno films, and again, a lot of things I'd rather be in an empty cinema, but Gasperno films tend to be only on incursons and stuff like that, and it'll be quite full. And I adore the uncomfortableness of when the end credits are rolling and everyone asking, get up and go into this, even if it's just the light of the foyer, and be around other humans and
know that you all saw that together. You will. You couldn't see each other in the dark, but now the lights are up and you can see each other's faces.
And I saw a reversible in the cinema with Amy Bullman actually who I previously mentioned, and people I went to see enter the void in the cinema, and the most and the most recent climax, which is my favorite of the Gasponneau films, I just adored it because I think gasper obsesses over one thing in each film, And in Irreversible he was obsessing over violence, and Enter the Void he was obsessing over the brain, and in Climax he was obsessing over the dance, and I loved that,
as in Love he's obsessing over sex, and yeah, I love that the focus of dance. All of them will have violence, the brain, and sex in all of them, but he obsesses over one, and yeah, I loved it. But again I felt that was a cheat in the question, because they're chosen discomforts. So one year, on Boxing Day, we were visiting my uncle and we decided to all go to the cinema as a family, me, my mum, my brother, my cousins who were all younger than me,
me aunts, and uncle. And the only thing that we all fancied was Girl with the Dragon tattoo, which heard the book was good, heard, it's good. Heard, it's a good adaptation, And there's a pretty unpleasant rape scene in that film Bread And sitting there on Boxing Day with uncle's aunts and younger cousins and my mum and my brother, that was the most uncomfortable I think I felt in
a film. Although it's just come to mind, I did also go and see Shame with a female friend that was a platonic female friend, and within moments fast Bender's big old wang is swinging about on the on the huge screen, So that was fairly uncomfortable as well. But yeah, it's got to be girl with a dragon tattoo purely for the quantity of people to feel uncomfortable near. It wasn't one person. It wasn't at least it wasn't your idea. At least it wasn't like, hey, guys, I'm taking you Yeah, yeah, one,
I've got this that. Yeah, that film was not a massive success, and I find it so fascinating. So I'm like, it seems so obvious to me that it was marketed like a putting out on Boxing Day is a terrible idea. Be the tagline it was called the feel bad film of the Year. It's like, yeah, no one's going to go see that. No one's looking at that tagling. What no one except the Pips Gladdest Night and the Pips
Saddest Night and the Pips. Yeah, I've never realized that you were your family and the backing vocus the Gladdest Day we are we Are. That's mad films put on Boxing Day. Yeah, really weird choice, I guess. And yeah, I think it's because of that that we didn't really anticipate quite what we were getting ourselves into. Yeah, because normally Greatest Showman is that's a Boxing Day film. You put the Greatest Showman Boxing Day. We're all going, we're
having a lovely Little Women. Don't thank you, Little Women, Little Women? Thank you? A Christmas miracle than in the Heart of the Sea. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, so so so Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was the Mad World of Christmas, of Christmas entertainments? Why is Mad World Christmas number one? That's not a Christmas number one song? Come on, if you could, if you could show a child one film, what would it be? And also what
are you doing in this scenario? Still deciding on this because I've got three written down here and one I just I just want to talk about with you, Okay. Another one we've talked about before, and it's got a good child performance and that was the only real reason. But I'm going to go with because it's a cartoon and kids love cartoons. Akira minds they show that. I think at some point they have to learn that the
world is unpredictable and scary. And I think starting with a cool kid in a cool jacket on a cool motorbike and then going into everything that comes in Akira would be a hell of a hell of a ride. And why have you been left alone with this kid? Well? I told them I was going to put the Trolls film on you see my kid. Answer was Black Coldron. But we discussed Black Couldron in the last episode, so there was a few things on this that I thought. My answer was one thing. I was like, no, we've
discussed that film before. I think, so, yes, I think I saw Akira when I was little and you know, like this, So yeah. The other one that was on my list was Mono's which is one of my favorite films of all time, and it's an almost all childcast old children. Not a bad idea, but almost all childcast.
And I think a lot of kids in England need to up their game and they're messing about and just being children, and then you see a film like Monos and go, these are children and they have not only in the real world, they've made this film and in the fictional world they're essentially fighting a war against an invisible opponent, and yeah, that film would blew me away. So that was one I was like, well, that'll get kids in line. Yeah, Monus is really good, so good
at it's really good. So I watched that in the cinema just on ad it recommended by an acting teacher I was working with at the time. Just getting that in that I've trained, I've trained now Brett. I didn't know what to expect, and man, it just blew me away. Just every performance in that was just absolutely astounding. And it's a film that could not be made in the West, but the risks that were taken in that film would not be taken by an American production or a British
a production. And when they're going down the rapids and you can't evaked it, you'd be like, no, we're not doing that. That's crazy. And it's just really astounding. It feels like a year a wrath of God, where it's like, Wow, these people have had an experience here and it's probably not the best way to make films because they've almost died, they've changed permanently. But man, every but theoretically every actor wants to make films like that. Theoretically, yeah, probably not
in the reality. I spent the first ten minutes of this moaning about being in an airbnb for seven months and being a bit bored. So living in the jungle is stuck down in mud rapid Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I love a little trick. In the Pilot of Debris, we had this bit where me and the garden we've had to disappear, and it was all done as a one shot and a little trick where we just have to jump behind the cameraman at a certain point and
there's a slight and just things like that. Probably no one else gives a ship, but I adore it, Like from doing a lot of one shot music videos. The video for Stunner has got loads of little tricks. There's a bit where I switched with a double and stuff like that, and I nerd out over that stuff, but I stand by it. It does matter. People may not know subconsciously it makes a difference. You fucking react more if it's real. Then if it's a computer, you just
connect to it more. Even if you don't know you are, you do. I think Monus is partly why Minus is so amazing, because it's definitely real and you're just like well scrubious. Pivot's been wonderful to resurrect you, and having listened to all your answers, I've decided for now to let you live. Thanks. But before you go, a lawyers popped over just to take your will, just in case, because you never know when I'm around what could happen.
And the only thing he needs is what DVD would you leave in a will were you to die again in the future. You can leave one DVD for whoever you want. I think it's a big callback to my first appearance on here, and it's going to be Harvey, and I'd leave it to literally everyone I love because I think it's genuinely a bang on about it before, so I won't bang on too much, but I think it's one of it genuinely changed my outlook on life
in many ways. In what way? How did it change without the kind of lay, just the character, his approach, the fact that the kind of end of the film
is going year. He's a bit weird or he's a bit odd, but he's happy and he's positive and that's okay, and we don't have to This is going to sound really heavy now, but there was a period in my life where my parents were giving me or we're putting me in speech therapy, and they took me out of speech therapy because they didn't like the fact that all of the teachings seem to imply I was broken and needed fixing, and they believed I wasn't broken and didn't
need fixing. If if I want helping can help my stammer, then great, But if not, that's just who I am and part of who I am. And I think that's a really I'd never realized that that connection, but I think that's really the story of Harvey. And there's a quote in it that I put on my first record that he says, my mum always I used to say to me, in this world lle Wood, as she'd always call me Elle Wood. In this worldale Wood, you can be also smart or al so pleasant. For years I
was smart. I recommend pleasant, and I love it. It's beautiful. So yeah, I'd leave Harvey for literally everyone a copy each. I'd proper oprah Winfrey it you get a Harvey, you get a Harvey. You all get a Harvey. Yeah, Harvey, that's very lovely. Scrubs Pit, thank you very much. Now, is there anything you would like to tell people to look out for, to watch, to listen to before about your day. Not at all. Everyone should just enjoy themselves
and watch more films. Or what I would tell them to watch is when you feel safe and comfortable, watch films in the cinema. Because you and me have both been banging on about this for years, but man, is it more important than ever for two reasons. I think number one, we're going to lose a lot of cinemas because of the pandemic, and number two, also partly because
of the pandemic, but it was already going there. We're going to lose a lot of amazing films because you will know as well, every production company is looking for TV shows because TV is where it can reach everyone. We've got Netflix, We've got Prime, We've got Apple TV, which also I need to mention having one of the hits of the year on Apple TV makes it even more impressive with ted Lasso, because let's not be about like not everyone had Apple TV. Everyone hadn't Netflix. So
Tiger King goes on their bang everyone's watching it. Not everyone had Apple TV, and Ted Lasso be is so praised and so huge a lot of the people who saw it got Apple TV to watch ted Lasso, and man, that's mind blowing in this day and age, right when people are so lazy, like you would have had stuff before, independent stuff that you're like, it's available now where you've got to buy it on iTunes, that's honestly, you can rent it on iTunes. Yeah, I'll get around to it.
Like people are so lazy. It's not already on their phone, already in their streaming system. So fucking amazing, man. So yeah, a big bit of love on that. But yeah, just cinemas, man, it worries me and scares me. As I said, I adored doing Debris, But one of the things that that seven month period had me feeling was I want to make more films, man, because I love getting to develop a character and be a character and potentially have series after series. But I love films. I love the focus
of films, the freedom of films. They're not being restricted to a tie a running time, to advert breaks, to all these other things, to hope fully all of the artistic decisions being made for artistic reasons, and film is still really the only place that that happens. I know. Netflix I know Apple TV can have more flexibility on that,
but still there's some resistance to that freedom. There's still we want to kind of get the running time around this or around that rather than around how long it needs to be for this story and film is where that is. So getting the cinemas, man, when you feel comfortable and safe, I'm not. I'm also not trying to rush people out of a pandemic to indoors. You know. Lovely Lovely boy. Thank you Scooby as a pit. Thank you, Brick Goldstein. I hope you have a wonderful life and
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