Rob Deering • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #196

about ry. Abraham Lincoln didn't know you were a fan. Every week I invite a special guests over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and even Bed Brambles. But this week it's the Amazing comedian podcast of writer and runner at mister Rob Deering. Head over to the Patreon at patron dot com forward slash Brett old Steam, where you get an extra twenty minutes

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There are tickets and they are selling fast for the big live films to be buried with Live, Live, Live, Live at the Hackney Empire on July second. Make sure you get your tickets from Plosive dot co dot uk and Hackney Empire dot co dot uk. We'll have a right out laugh or a cry. Who knows we'll see You have to be there to see it. Jaman So Rob Deering, Rob Deering, Rob Deering. Rob Deering is a

brilliant comedian, musician, runner, podcaster and writer. I met him when I first started to stand up, had loads of gigs with him, loved him then, I love him now. He's fucking brilliant. He now has I think two different podcasts, one where he runs and discusses music to Run to You and one where he runs with the other excellent comedian, Paul Tomkinson. He's got books out, he's got it all going on, and he's so brilliant and he's so lovely and I really really enjoyed getting to spend some time

with him again. Hadn't seen him for a while. It was a real pleasure. I think you're gonna like this one. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and ninety six of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by a podcaster, a writer, a actor, a music quizzer, a musician, a runner, a book writer, and most of all, extraordinary comic. Please welcome to the show.

It's the wonderful, the beautiful, the glorious. He's only here, it's here with himself. It's mister Rob Deering. Hi. Oh yeah, thanks, thanks, Yeah, I see how that works. Now I feel comprehensively bigged up. How are you, Rob Deering? Good? Yeah? Right, My ego is huge. It's like a it's like a barrage balloon. Now, now, Rob Deering, I ain't seen you in a while. It's lovely to see you, but I was thinking of something.

I don't know if you remember this, but you did a great act of kindness for me once, which to tell probably sounds quite weird. But I think it was like fourteen years ago. It could have been fourteen years ago, and I want to check this. I was writing, working on a script that had kids in it, and my sister didn't have any kids, and my friends didn't have any I didn't know anyone. I didn't know any kids, and for some reason, you and I were talking and I said to you, can I study your kids? Yeah,

because I need to know what children are like. And I came around your house and we picked up your kids from school and we spent the day studying your children. It is absolutely yeah. The thing is you were really worried that this was a weird thing to ask, and you know because on paper to your listeners right now, yeah maybe, but I completely understood. And what's more, for

better or worse, my kids are totally gregarious. They're they're the right kids for the job, and like you say, they were little, so I just thought, you know, it's like, you know, talk to Brett and they're like, okay, off we go, la la la. So I don't know how representative of kids they were, but it was. It was right up the deering family street. So you're welcome. Well, in a way, your kids were so lovely and funny and nice that they were like movie kids that this

doesn't seem realistic kids. I'm gonna have to change this. Well, I mean I can't, you know, I agree. I think they're absolutely marvelous and obviously, like like most parents, I think they're the best ones. But yeah, they're not necessarily representative of their generation. You also told me something and I was thinking how I would word this so it didn't I figured out how to say it so that it doesn't out anyone. But you told me something that's stuck with me, and I think ever since I've asked

parents about it. Where we were talking blino nature versus nurture, and you said about your two kids, and you know, the same parents, same loving home, same love in which they were brought into the world. And you said one of them, and I won't say which was born with a certain personality trait again, I won't say what, And you said, and they were just born that way. And you were just like, oh, wow, that's there. They they're

going to be like this regardless of how we raise them. Yeah, I think when it comes down to it, you're you're being too obliquent. I don't know what I don't know what trait we're talking about, and exactly what you mean, because again remembering when they're really little, and actually they were tiny at the time, but it was still late

in the day that I cottoned on. My wife pointed out to you one day, quite close in age my kids, they're like a year and a half apart, so when they were kind of two and three or three and four something like that, my wife said to me, of course they like completely opposite things. They're completely opposite people. And I was like, of course they are. They're totally opposites of each other. And I've never got there before because they're not. They don't they don't bump. They're excellent

friends and they really get on. It's just that if you asked them about anything anything from like I don't know, popular music to Marvel DC to Marmite, they would have opposite opinions, you know, And that's just so nature, isn't it, Particularly as they get on, and they're part of our family and everything, but they're they're opposites. Do you think that they're more opposites because they're brother and sister, as in, do you think that their opinions are in direct relations

to each other? As in, my brother likes marmite, So I won't. No, I don't think so. I think the opposite is true, in neither of them particularly conformed to any in the wider scheme of things, either conformed to any particular gender stereotypes. And in terms of within the house, I think the fact that their brother and sister gives them and the fact that they're different gives them a distance so that they get on. So they're they're kind of non competitive as a result of their difference. So

it's like the reverse of what you said. I love that. Also, what's weird is I feel, I was going to say, I feel like we're talking about them as these little tots, and they are the most biggest, most grown up children there. And my daughter's about to be sixteen and my son seventeen. Also, he is like, here's me. He's like that, he's several inches taller than me and quite a lot wider he's like he's strapping. It's impressive and kind of slightly scary.

In fact, when I told him this morning about my difficult journey last night, he gave me a hug and I found very looked after. Indeed, these are in a fluffy onesie and I was like, oh, thank you, you're my emotional support animals, So you know, the hands on the other foot, and then yeah, my daughter slightly younger, but she could. She could run the world starting tomorrow a few if you wanted her too. So they didn't

become scary, horrible teenagers. No, No, they're they're great. They're teenagers, but they're great. And also Lockdown was amazing because we always got on as a family. But it was kind of good timing because I think we'd never really been all been together at the same time. So I think if we were all sick of each other, it could have been a bit of a flashpoint. But actually, because we've never had sustained time together as kind of four basically four grown ups, we liked it and then we

got we got into it. And I tell you, we've watched a lot of films like this. It's a phrase you don't hear enough, lockdown was amazing. Yeah, no, it went well for us. I mean obviously highs and lows. I think schooling was really tough for them. I think their school did really well and got better. But equally, yeah, we enjoyed our house. We enjoyed each other's company. I enjoyed the break from touring and you know, and all those things that we're doing this, doing that. You know,

me and my wife did yoga every day. I wrote a book. It was a special time. And you're a runner a very so, as it turns out, you don't expect these things happen to you. And also, I'm so I'm really crivocal about it because people say people being boring about running is such a thing, and yet I am. I am not safe from that, you know what I mean. I've got two podcasts about it, I've written a book about it, and if you look at my timelines on the socials, I'm like, oh, I see, yeah, that's it.

That's what I talk about, That's what I do. My only claim, my only hope is that I'm that I'm the runner. You know, I'm not interested in talking about numbers or laps or interval sessions. I'm talking about what songs I listened to, and what birds and flowers I saw, and where I went, and how much I reminded myself of people of Matt Damon in the Born Supremacy. So at least hopefully it's a it's a it's a deering angle. I'm running. I remember when you did your first marathon.

I've forgotten this until just now, and you did it. You you felt like dissatisfied with it, you were surprised, how much like it didn't make you feel happy at the end of it, so you had to do it again. Do you remember that? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, I didn't like it. I mean I completely said never again and meant it, which apparently, again I'm not the only person who ever

did that. But I went off really fast, and went off like a rat out of a trap, and then had this odd balance where I knew I could still get a good time if I just crawled the last however, you know, the last however many miles and I never so I kept sort of stopping and then just running on. And I couldn't handle the crowds. People say, oh, it's so great. You've got all the crowds and all the support and it's true. I mean, I think I've done in London marathon like eight times now and I love it.

I think it's fantastic. But that first time, when I was all tired and feeling angry with I'm not sorry for myself, angry with myself, and everyone's going, go on, you canna do it, I was like, shut up, you don't know me. You know my dad. And I think also as comics, you know, one gets a bit more blas are about having an audience. I think you're you're people doing a marathon are like, it's so great to have a crowd cheering. He's like, I've had crowds cheering me.

Go away with heckles. What would you fucking say? I was just saying, go on, mate, I'm proud of you, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Well I come to where you're running a marathon and shout at you yeah yeah, and knock the trainers off your feet. So yeah, I said, never again. And I am now in a week a couple of weeks, I'm running my eighteenth marathon and I'm trying to get to twenty this year this year, so you're gonna do three this year? Yeah? I don't know

what happened to me. That's very okay. One one marathon question. Do you plan a playlist for the marathon or do you have no music? What do you do? I'm very much into running listening to music. It used to be always music, and then I'll get into running and talking. And that's how I got into. First of all, it start running with Paul Tomkinson and talking, and then that became a podcast where we run and talk, and then I realized that that's a good thing. So I've run.

I've done quite a lot of running chatting with strangers because people who supported my book did that and I met them, you know. But basically, my number one is running with music. So my playlist for a marathon, my playlist for running basically is an enormous It's a huge playlist, but totally curated, so I always get a surprise, but it's always a song I wanted to hear, and these days I've been trying quite hard to share that. So first of all, that's what my books about running tracks.

It's runs listening to specific songs in specific places. And then I've since then, I've been doing this other podcast, the Running Tracks Radio Hour, where I and host a playlist and honestly, you know, putting my own marketing feelings aside. I've done a few of those now, and those playlists are fantastic. I want the world to know. I mean, obviously I would like them because I chose them, but they're quite eclectic, so I think everyone would find something

and it's reinvigorated. It's the second time my love of music has been reinvigorated by running, because you know, when I started running, what mid to late thirties. I mean, I love music, music is my life, but I hadn't really I wasn't really listening to much new music, and I was listening to like re released CDs of albums that have when I was growing up in the car. You know, I got into running, I started finding new music just I just needed so many more songs. I

just dug in. And when you dig in, you get better at listening to new stuff and diverse stuff. And then and then a second wave of that is when I started doing this radio show. Honestly, my own playlist from my making playlist for other people that next time we're doing marathon, I'll just be listening to Rob Doings running tracks because it's there's a thousand of them, a nesting perth. Yeah, how many songs are in your marathon playlist?

It will be in four figures hopefully thousands, definitely a thousand plus. Wow. I won't listen to all of them because that would take too long. Then you'd be quite slow at the marathon. Yeah, you'd make quite a bad time if you. If you'd finished the playlist, I'd be like one of those people seeing the news that, like you know, when someone someone did it on their knuckles for the gorillas, someone else did it just as a

deep sea diver. And then it'd be like that, you know, see coming on the news kind of eight days later and I'm like, wow, what did you do? It's like I just listened to my music. I stopped at a hotel, I slept down a couple of nights sleep. I really wanted to know what the next track was going to be. Yeah, Rob Deering, I've forgotten to tell you something. What's that? And I should have told you. I should have told you earlier, probably before we were talking about the running um,

but I feel like a dickhead. I just have to say it. You died. Oh oh, yeah, that is bad news. Dead. Oh yeah, dead, Okay, how did you die? Give me a minute. I didn't even know I had thinking back. Yeah, I was. Well, now I come to think of it, I think I know what happened. I was in a little detail. I was there. I was in a small country village where I grew up. You know, it's one of those places, little church, a little bit of shop, old lady doctor, you grew up in Sylvanian families. No,

it was humans. There were humans. I think there was one hedgehog. And anyway, there there was something sinister going on around the place. I wasn't really tuned into it. And then someone I knew and trusted came to see me, and I said, oh hello, And I don't think I'm kind of seeing it from my own point of view, so I don't even know how it was. But I definitely knew and trusted him and said something like, oh hi,

what are you doing here? And then I don't know whether they stabbed me or shot me because I couldn't even see. I can just see my own face with a sudden look of shock. And that's it. What I'm saying is I think I was the second murder in a little village murder mystery. You were midsummer murdered. Yeah, if you want to know more about who it was and how it happened, you're going to have to talk to Bergier act or Miss Marple or someone. Because it's too late for me. I'm in the back garden looking

confused before the second efforts. You're the first guest I've had he's been midsummer murdered. I think, to be fair, I was miss marpled. It's you who you were missed? Yeah, my god, isn't it in the dream. I feel quite happy about it. Really. I feel like I'm part of the great heritage. I just wish I knew who it was. You're definitely added to a list somewhere and you'll get your own wiki page. You know. It's something. Do you worry about death? No, I don't think I do. I

worry about getting old. And there's a there's a there's a sliding scale, isn't it? Because I worry about I'm aware of time, you know. I kind of think, oh, I must do that. If I really want to do that, I should really do it, because I'm not I'm not immortal or like, Oh I did that? That was really good I probably never do that again. You know, that's a that's a kind of vague sense of mortality, isn't it. But no, I don't. I don't worry about it. Well, it's about time you did, too late, int it. What

do you think happens when you die? Oh? I am pretty confident that we merged once again with the nothingness. You know what you can remember from before you were born. Yeah, assuming you're not in the kind of showing the Clane line of things and that kind of just nothing at all, that's what I'm expecting. Well, sorry if that's a bit of a dark perspective. No, I mean it's it amazes me that you're like, you don't really you're cool with it.

I'm cool with just murdering with the nothingness. Well, you know it's all good in it. Well, well, I've got news for you, actually, robbed hearing. You're completely encouraged. I've got to tell you. The last thing you told me was pretty bad news. So I'm hoping this is good news. This is good news. I think there's a heaven. There's a heaven. I called that completely wrong. Yeah, and they're very you're very welcome there. They're actually really big fans

of yours. They love your work. They love the fact that you offer up your children as a scientific display. They love everything you do. They also love they love your playlist. They're like, where does it play this for the next millennia. It's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Running? I just want to run and run and run. They're my favorite thing. What you mean apart from films? Yes, apart from films, because they literally are.

That's the problem. I think nice places to run and films and you know, somewhere as long as in the evenings in heaven, I can have a beer whilst making a nice dinner and listen to some good music. Is that on the card? You know what? Your heaven's pretty fucking sweet. It's got long, long, beautiful nature runs. You've got you've got your bridges, you've got your lakes, you've got your seas. I love. I've got to tell you, I'm a big fan of Victorian engineering. They were all

over the running. We've got toe paths and disused railways with all the sleepers taken away. Yeah yeah, yeah, all that, that's all. They're brilliant. And there's screening rooms and at the back of them, there's you can have you brought your own beer and make your food or whatever it is that you do, and they're delighted. They're delighted to have you there, and they want to talk about your life, but they want to talk about your life through film. The first thing they ask you is, what is the

first film you remember seeing Rob Deering? Oh wow, okay, well I saw. I'm sure it's not the first film, but it was so iconic that I definitely remember going was Star Wars. And that's why, to this day I always referred to it as Star Wars as opposed to, you know, A New Hope or anything like that. But I'm talking about Star Wars episode for a New Hope. And I saw that the cinema and I think I would have been five w so that was quite full on.

And because I do remember seeing those, you know, those steaming corpses, the ones that have had all the flesh burnt off their body, Uncle Owe and Aunt Beru, I totally remember them. So that does suggest that it was a bit scarring, because oh, that's what a flame Showard's corps would look like, and says says Daring, age five. But I loved it. You know, I love Star Wars

and it's funny enough. I remember showing Star Wars to my kids when they were about five, or one of them was, and I was like, wow, this has got loads of guns and explosions in it. I have regrets, but forget all that, because I don't think that's the first film. I sort of the cinema. It was just like a really early experience, like I really remember. You know, obviously I'm the generation I'm sure everyone else is, but

a similar shocks thing. I remember being at the cinema and we were queuing, you know, like you used to. I don't need to get this anymore. We were queuing by a little gold sign in the corridor with like red carpets. It might as well have been the thirties, but it wasn't. It was about nineteen eighty and we were waiting to get in. We're all very excited to go and see the big new film, and the audience before came out and like I was trying not to listen.

I don't want to be plot spoilers. And there was loads of little boys in my age coming in the opposite direction, and they're all going it's face the faces a mounting is mounting, were mounting, and they were really excited about it, loved it. But I would also say, with a sprinkle of traumatized it had been a bit much for them. What film was I waiting to get into? Last Art? I remember that very clearly, and I was a bit scared, frankly, And it is quite a lot,

isn't it? That Last Tear? But no, sorry, none of that before either of those films, victorily before Raiders, because please answer the question. I answer the question. Simbad and the Eye of the Tiger, that's the first one I remember seeing the cinema and I loved it. Wow, that is cool, because people don't. You don't talk about those films because they they're so rubbish now, but they were

great at the time. They're kind of good, and it was It wasn't the same era, wasn't it, because there were the real high watermark for those kind of films. It's like Jason and the Argonauts. Yeah, and that was great as well, but that would see that on the telly. But they were still making them the kind of Harry House and yes, stop motion stuff, Greek myths. Simbadd and the either of Tiger, I remember being really exciting. And then another one that Class of Titans with Harry Hamlin

and the little Robot owl Burgess Meredith Spurgess. Meredith loved those and Simbad and we went to see Spider Man and we couldn't get in. So we went to see Simbad and the either of Tiger, and I was really disappointed. And I don't know if you remember version of Spider Man that is, but it's not in the cannon put it that way? Is the one with the sort of TV movie version? Yeah? Yeah, they released quite loose fitting,

quite a loose fitting suit, yeah, and teeth scrailers for eyes. Yeah, it's sort of like pajamas and he keeps having to pull him up. That's right with Toby maguire. No, so, yeah, we couldn't get into that. Muency Simban, the Eid of Tiger. Who'd you go with? I've got You've got a brother, my big brother. He's a few years older than me. Yeah, he would have been there then because I was really little, but he's like six years older, so when I was a bit older, he wouldn't necessarily be there to be

off teenager. He had been there there's about four and ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, okay, lovely. What is the film that scared you the most? Do you like being scared? I don't really. I've avoided that line of country. I mean, I've experienced it, you know what I mean. My particular take on a scary film is if it's iconic, you know, if it's in the cannon, a film we ought to have seen and I want to see it so that I've seen it,

but I would seek it out for the thrill. So I've seen the Blair Witch Project, but I didn't enjoy it. I mean I did enjoy it. It It wasn't it was kind of before everyone's like yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, so I think probably it's a difficult one. One of the scariest films I've ever seen was the original I don't know if this counts TV movie version of The Woman in Black. All right, We're dandy naman, Yeah, And it was it was not They lost it for ages,

didn't they. No one happened right recently, and it's difficult to travel is it's slightly harder to see exactly how scary is if you see The Woman in Black as as miss Lemon from Poiro on ITV that undermines it. But honestly, that that that really shook me out. But I watched that on TV, so I don't need accounts. Oh again, Generationally, I am that generation who couldn't go anywhere near any water, including the upstairs toilet after Jaws was on TV. I think it's one particular Saturday night

in about eighty one. But the scariest film actually got to I want myself in the cinema to answer this probably, so we jumped forward a few years. I did a gig at Nutting in Junglers and it was a horrible audience and bad sound and I'm not going to lie to your breath, it didn't go well for me. There was there was booing and through things, and I mean it was like that. It was like a fictional comedy death. And then I drank a lot of gin and then I went to a pub and I drank a lot

more gin. And then I went and saw The Orphanage. Oh my god. Yeah, that's a fucking great film. It's absolutely fantastic. And the thing is it's the emotion of it. It was terrifying. I mean, particularly for me, I don't really watch Gary films as it's been established, and it's so scary, but it's also so sad, so sad. Oh god, it just I mean, it just broke me. I couldn't think about it, couldn't think about the end of it for months, for months and then but from here it

was like the timing of it was amazing. It was like the worst night of my life. But I drew the steam of the whole thing with this incredible film. I'm really great but awful. Just what's not in your junglist? What is the film that made you cry the most? Are you a crier? I imagine you're a crier. I'm a massive crier. The the speech Jude Law gives in The Holiday, I'm a weeper, a weeper, a greatest cards. Um,

that's me. That's based on me. He was quoting me directly. Um. But no. The funny thing is, though, and then it's obviously he connected is I wasn't. I thought I was. It's all to do with an emotional repression. Originally, I

remember going to here we are. I would like to apologize, Hey, you didn't cut me wherever you like, But I'm going to continually tell you about films that aren't the answer to your question, because I yeah, particularly as I'm in a generation where we're going through a barrier that is all the films ever, you know, sort of Steen seventy seven to eighty four lived it me. But yeah, so me and Richard Osborne and Richard Osborne's mum went to see ET and he was on my left and she

was on my right. And for the last half hour of the film, I was passing tissues and I couldn't cry it. I mean I watched ET and didn't I not only did I not psychopath, I know, I didn't understand why you would, you know what I mean. And I've seen it in recent years, and yeah, I've been as messed up. I mean, I'm a terrible crier. When me and my wife came out of Titanic, we started the car and then stopped it again and just sat crying, like for ages. I can't drive. Well, this is happening.

And I went to see, uh, what's it called an English patient with my friend of mine in Finland, and which she was just chatting away about doing the post film debrief, and I just said, I want you to stop talking about anyway, the thing that where it broke was it was One over the Cook's Nest. I saw it on TV when I was I don't know when it was, but it wouldn't have been that long after I'd seen et in psychopath Style, and I remember watching

one for them. Yeah, like there's no soul, not even understanding what what is got what they wanted it was? It was, you know, logistically the scheme is complete. Um was it your beath? So you know? And they had a lovely bike, cried for goodness sake. And the funny thing is I remember that I remember just when the floodgates went, I didn't know what to do. I mean, I hurt in my soul and I went and had a bath and was all upset. And my mum, it

probably thought, was traumatized him. We don't know what to do, she said, one the other bath, And I went and had a bath, and I was just lying in the bath and saying but even then, I remember really insisting that the end of One Flew Over the Cookstness was a happy ending. But I don't understand this. It was a happy ending. It was just like after a fashion rock. But come on, so yes, I really had to learn,

and since then I've been terrible. Another way, I was at university and we watched Awakenings and I was trying to be all not crying in front of my new flatmates. Yeah yeah, but I held on. I was like, we're fine. And I went to go to my room and my room was locked and left the keys in the kitchen and I just got to my room door and I was trying to open my own room at university and just in the corridor and the organ crying about Awakenings

in the corridor. So I've caught up since. But yeah, the Floodgates was one play of the cooksiness such a great psychopath test. Handstand it because it's a happy ending any t. I mean you know here, you're insane. Not a remotely happy film. And honestly, and I cry at anything I got, I'll cry. I'm more likely than not to cry any given episode of The Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, sets me off. Yeah, any Simpsons so that it's about

Homer and Lisa around mcgin. Oh. So I'm just thinking of the bit where Maggie thinks that the ice cream is Marge's hair. Oh, what is the film that you love? But it's not critically acclaimed. Most people don't like it, but you don't care what they say, because you yeah, yeah, yeah, well I love I really enjoy a film that's and I think lots of people probably agree with this. I think I've only ever enjoyed Hudson Hawk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of fun. Hey mister, are you gonna die?

But if I'm honest, this one's more culturally complicated, and I have a real proper relationship with it. In summer nineteen eighty three, during our two weeks summer holiday in the rainy British countryside, we have the proper rainy day and went to the cinema and I always dreamed of that day because then we'd go to the you know, and see and it would often be a James Bond

movie and uh. And in summer eighty three, I thought saw one of the what at the time was the best film I'd ever seen, and I would still watch it any day. And that's Octopusy Yeah. And I have to say, obviously it's fairly socially indefensible, but I'm I'm pretty right on, and I think that it is much more crash and properly offensive ill judged. I mean, but don't get me wrong. I'm not going to stand up and caught and defend it against charges of sexism and

racism and stuff. But I still find it. And also I'm not saying I wouldn't say, oh, I love a Roger Moore James Bond film, because a lot of them are howling dogs. But I've got a real soft spot for Octopusy and it's exciting. The soundtrack is great, and the action sequence is a superb He has that long chase where he has to get all the way across Germany and he's got like four hours. I love that.

Then you don't see that, you know, when someone's got loads of time and they can make phone calls and do hitchhiking and stuff, and yet in the end he ends up with just thirty seconds to diffuse the bomb. It's great, great film. Love it. I'm shown that I said it indefensible. I stand. I'm watching this to know, is I take it to my grade? What is quite literally? Apparently? Yeah? Maybe what is the film that you used to love but you've watched it recently and you do not like

it anymore? For whatever reason that might be. Do you know It's funny. This one the ones that really jump out. I remember really enjoying at the time, and I feel bad about this, but I just want to speak. I know, like you know, this is an issue, isn't it? Where you where when you realize the stories of the films and what they mean and people make films, you know what I mean. Don't want to hold anything against anyone.

But having said that, I think there's a national treasure, a legend, a very talented guys making brilliant films whose early films are quite hard to watch now, and I remember enjoying them a lot, and that's uh. I feel bad now. In case is your best mate Peter's Friends? And what's the one Dead Again? Have you seen Dead Again? Dead Again is amazing? And the funny thing is that it is a difference in perspective because at the time, maybe it was just my immaturity, but I just thought

this is great. Yeah, this plays like a head shop like i'd seen Vertigo, And then I watched Dead Again. I thought, yeah, that was good. It doesn't feel like that when you watch it now, how does it feel? I've not watched it? Used to? I used to fucking love Dead again. Yeah, well it is close key and after a while you just don't buy into it. You think this, these British guys are just doing American accents,

and it's there's there's like a cartoon. They're just kind of and in a way, Peter's Friends is like that too. You see the big chill and then you see Peter's Friends and I don't know, they just don't feel I can't buy into them anymore. They feel like drama exercises, you know. Thank you for checking. If Kenneth ber is my best friend, well, I shook his hand once. I think, I mean, obviously he's great, and he's and he also he's all over. I love his work. I love his Shakespeare.

Shakespeare films from the time day amazingly. I think much to do about Nothing is underrated from here. I think it's fantastic. And a Hamlet, that whole Hamlet is really good. But having said that, my Miss Marple, I went from Miss Marple over Pyro anyway. Yeah, so that would definitely be it, although I feel bad about it. I think there's a couple of films that I really loved that

are probably appalling, but I'll avoid them. Those kind of eighties musicals, and they'd be really rubbish and probably like all kinds of offensive as well, films like Electric Dreams, okay, and what's the other Zanna Do? I thought Zannadue was great? Right, I have seen Janna Do. It's doesn't even hang together. It doesn't make any sense, and I thought it was. It's amazing how open minded we were. The stuff would just go, Okay, yeah that's a film. Yeah, I'm entertained,

I don't know what's going on and incomprehensible rubbish. So yeah, Zanna Do an Electric In fact, I'm sorry, Sir Kenneth all wrong. Zakay is in US nominated this year, of course, full respect. Zanna Do Electric Dreams. I haven't seen the Electric Gyms again, so we go Xanadu. That is a film which I have to admit that I loved. I don't know why, probably pre et full Psychopath and I've seen it since and it's one of the worst things that's ever been through in my eyes, really good at

I'd like the journey to get there. I'm just I don't think I'm ever going to work with Seken now. I think it will forgive you because it seems like a very magnanimous man. Is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but because the experience you had around seeing it, that

will always make it special to you. Mister Rob Deering, Well, I'm slightly embarrassed about this film because the answer ultimately comes to me really obviously, and it's definitely a film. But I'm a bit embarrassed because it's so kind of on the nose. But I think that when it comes down to it, these are the films I love, you know. I love films, entertaining films that work is where I live, you know. So I've got to learn to lose my shame of Hollywood doing what it does best. Anyway, Fairest

Viewer changed my life, just changed my life. I was on i'd seen a poster for it at the cinema. I'd have been what we're talking in eighty seven, so I'm fourteen fifteen, and I saw the poster, you know, the kind of screenprint poster of the cargoing the opposite direction in the traffic right, and it's called Fairest Viewer's Day Off. And I immediately thought, oh, that sounds great.

I love the sound of this film. I mean, I'm so lazy, and I was sad, and I mean when you think back to that, I mean, why did I lie on that thinking that that's good? But it was something different, wasn't it? And then I went on a school trip to America. I mean, you don't get those anybody. Isn't that fantastic? We went it was an arts exchange, so it was absolutely you know, there was a proper non dead poets. I was going to say, like Dead Posts Society, only not sad. But let's say, well, what

was sad about Dead Posts Society? Really? I mean, you know, the children get educated. No, I was emotionally awake by the time I saw that film. So I was on this arts exchange to America, so I was I was doing all real you know, actual. I was in a play we loved doing. We went to see we went

to all kinds of music things. But also I was hanging around with these cool Americans and properly, yeah, I said, that's when I kind of decided to start wearing black clothes and listening to the Cure all day long and everybody and it was just I was really it was a real teenage moment where I was finding out who I was and that was already happening. What was the play you were in? What love we wore? Right? Yeah?

And it was good. You know, it's a good play, right, And it's basically a very workshop script, so if you do it right, you're doing it like they did in theater Astra at least. And we did it in this big theater in Marblehead, north of Boston, and everyoneent a good job and I didn't know what that phrase meant. I was like, what does that mean? Good job? And then and I spent all my money on a Mickey Mouse baseball jacket and literally decided the next day to

wear black for the rest of my life. So you know, it's it's a moment in time. Anyway, my friends exchange, not mine. Mine was a crazy man. I said, what's my exchange like? And they said, hmm, he spent a year thinking he was a bird. But my friend was at the road staying with this girl who was lovely, and we went to his exchange house and watched a video and it was and again shows the timing because

it was veryous. Few as Day Off released on VHS before it had even been on the cinema in the UK, And yeah, so just watched it on VHS in this living room. But in America, in America and the very few asself, and honestly, life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. Honestly, you know, wwf D written on my underpants And I know that from here. I was just the other day someone was saying, Oh, it's such

an arrogant, little privileged scroat, you know. But I think I think John Hughes knew that, you know, for when for a few of the complains about not having a car, you're not supposed to sympathize with him, you know, spoiled when he says that, you know. But anyway, it changed my life. It was it was a It was a it was a compass reading for what to do with yourself at an incredibly vulnerable moment when I was actually in America thinking who could I be? What could I do?

As a teenager? And Ferrest came along in what to me looked like a really cool cardigan, amazing decisions that I really respected. Yeah, and now it's only now that I like watching back to the future and stuff. It's just amazing how these apparently rebellious teams still basically get married at the end and then get a girlfriend at the end. They get married at the end, Martin wick Fly and Fairest Buelah and these women who were just a function of them decide to get married. It was

the fifties, not the eighties, it turns out. But anyway, Yeah, it's very much a cultural you know, I'm obsessed. I'm not obsessed. I got into yeah, all right, I'm obsessed. Called The Bachelor in America, I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's such a fascinating sort cultural thing because it's a show in which the Bachelor, a man is encouraged to date and I think sleep with twenty five women over the course of a few months, but at the end of it he has to marry

one of them. It ends in marriage. So there's this weird, sort of puritanical, weirdly like, go and have some fun, but at the end of this you're getting married. Sad. Yeah, And I mean, how old are these bachelors in their twenties. It's too old, you know, I'm a saying, like, at the end, just go like, do you want to go on another date? You'd have to marry him now exactly. I mean, I loved my wife and we got together and we liked each other immediately. You know, it's been

a lovely textbook relationship. Lucky me. I don't know, you know, I really lucked out. But still when we first met, we kind of got together, and then we didn't see each other for two months and it was a shame. We really missed each other, exchanged postcards and stuff. It was still very healthy. And then, you know, and then then we got out, you know, and then we didn't get married when I got back. You know, it's just life takes longer than that. You know, life, I suppose

life moves pretty fast. And by the way it workspace ways. Just so you know, it's the Bachelorette. Happens after the bachelor of the bachelorette dates twenty five men and then in the end she has to marry. Well, the thing is that it basically works on the assumption that well, first of all, that you know everyone's straight, and secondly that you are everyone from the opposite gender is just is just a possibility. But to be a life mate and that's just no way to approach other humans, is it.

It's just no way to go into it. No shame, but it is. You know, I think that Back to the Future is like, you know, it's near perfect, isn't it. It's such a great film. So I didn't realize until recent years that they were just as would have been, just as worried about it, feeling queasy if they did it wrong. I just thought they were blase about it. But they it's so well judge him with the thing with his mom and everything. It could be awful. That

was a bad film. You go, oh, this is this is awful, And as it is, it just works, and Michael J. Fox is perfect and the whole You know, they worked really hard to make a perfect film. The fact that there's Steven Spielberg thing where he said, start really slow for ages to make it exciting, is that true. I've heard that. They say, yeah, it was. It was

Steven Spielberg's advice. The reason you spend ages looking at Doc Brown's alarm clock and he has an audition for the band thing is so that the rest of the film seems so exciting because you just really take your time for the first fifteen minutes and that was a

Steven Spielberg to anyway, so I hear. But the thing that is that he basically has this girl he says, I love you, then she isn't in the film, and then at the end they get together, and particularly with the sequels and everything, that's it they start the clan of people who look exactly like him. I mean, it's all you know, it's more Deliverance than Back to the Future in, isn't it? What is the film you most relate? Obviously, Ferrisbula still know that's James a lot, but it was

a moment in time. I have to say, I'm kind of reverse engineering this because I'm not sure I particularly watch films in that way, you know what I mean. I'm a little bit a shamed because I still really love the kind of James Bond model guy with I suppose really notes modulated. I like the I like the Matt Damon model, you know, the guy who is it was just whatever he does, he's an absolute expert at it,

but he's very diffident about that. And then he's a hero survives, you know, whether it's being on Mars or playing poker or being an international assassin, but with guilt. You know this is so, But you can't identify with those guys because there at best it's it's male fantasy and at worst you're you know, I'm a psychopath again. So but that's what I love. I love a Jason Bourne. I love and Ethan Hunt, you know. And I suppose where I relate to them and where they've actually influenced

my life is the running. Talking about running, you know, when I go for a run, I'm not trying to be mo Farah. You know. I don't read the magazines. I don't know what people who run are doing, and I don't want to see myself running because I run like a big rolling I run like a fat bloke and always will. But I am Jason Bourne on the beach in Goer. That's who's running when I go for

a run. And that thing that people always take the mickey out that Tom Cruise runs in all his films, yea, oh god, I love those scenes missing usle three just turn left and run three quarters a mile down there, Oh my god. And then they just do it again on top of Black Frize Bridge and missing Pustble fall out. Honestly, I'm literally trying to find a ladder on Blackfries Station so that I can get a faster run across the top of black Frize Bridge because I love that that thing.

So yeah, films where Tom Cruise runs, I love it. I love it. What was it? Excellent answer, Rob Deering, Let Me in the Eye was the sexiest film you've ever seen? Look away? Sexiest? Well, I gotta tell you in a minute. That's a sexy stort of a scene. Though. Yeah, okay, full disclosure. You know again, I'm talking about things being crashed and quite on the nose. I just didn't know. I didn't know what I was getting into when I

sat down to watch Bound, and that was that's right. Yeah, I mean I obviously it seems you know, it's just basically in any other circumstance, it's just me saying, hey, so I was watching some pretty on the nose, not Born. But the thing is, I was expecting a good, tight, little thriller. Yeah, and so when is it, Jennifer Tillian Gina Gershon It is when they got together, which is a sexy scene. Yes. Oh, I didn't know what's going to do with myself, So yeah, probably that great answer.

What there's it's not a great answer is that. I mean, I don't come off I listen. All I care about is people being honest in this question. It really his best. It really annoys me when people go like, oh, the romance of a screwbald comedy. I'm like, shut up, liar, what's There's a subcategory traveling bone is worrying? Why dones a film you found arousing that you weren't sure that

you should? Well, yeah, this is this is this is really interesting in terms of what you just said, because sometimes you think, oh, I really shouldn't fancy that person or find this thing sexy, but I do. But I think in the history of cinema again, you realize looking back that people meant that you know. Yeah, So for example, I really fancy what's her name, Joan Greenwood in the Eating comedies. That's Joan Greenwood, isn't it, with the with

the posh sexy voice, Joan Greenwood? Yeah, possible to say greens such a sexy Joan Greenwood. But the thing is, at first I was like, oh, you're not supposed to fancy her, she's all parsh and in the old days or whatever. But like you know, those seeing guys knew what they were doing. They were trying to work around the hayscoat and sell those films in America. She's supposed to be sexy, so there's no shame in that that.

I had an experience I want to tell you about where I felt guilty, but again, the film was sexy, so it doesn't really count. But you remember Sliver with Sharon Stone, huge fan fan, Yeah, it's all and it's all you know, hidden cameras and people, you know, masturbating in hotel rooms and you know it's it's grubby, isn't it scrubby? And great film? Well I saw that on a boat. I used to tour around a lot, going off to Europe on ferries, and on the longer trips

she'd be able to go to the cinema. And I thought, this is brilliant, you know, and I'd watch I saw a Spice World on a boat. Goodness say it was my life. But anyway, I want to sit and sometimes the cinema on a boat would be a little cinema and sometimes it would be a more multi purpose room where a screen dropped down. Anyway, I went to see Sliver in what was this this voice rism thriller in what was essentially like a conference room, and there was just and there was no one there. I just I

found it. I had a ticket, but no one showed me in or anything. I just saw W four or whatever, went through this boat door, sat a comfy chair next to a table. I was smoked. Then there's an astro and lit a cigarette, and then they started this film about watching people and there's no other people around, and I just there's nothing to do with the embarrassment of the film. You're supposed to find that film. But I felt like a ridiculous character. I felt like I was

now I felt like a watcher. I was mister grubby producer, you know. I felt like I was going to scratch line. Yeah sure, And again why they'd seen back And it was such a weird experience, But it was like it was like what it was like. It was like secret cinema. It was like my own little secret cinema loyalistic experience. But neither of those answer your question. And I'm going to get up to cut to the chase. Now. You know we were talking about seem Bad and the Eye

of the Tiger. Do you remember it seen it. Is it the one with Medica. No, that's clashing the Titans. That's good stuff. No in Simbady either. Tiger the Baddie is a witch. I think she's quite gorgeous and sexy. I don't remember, and she embarrassed. I'm going to finish

the story now and you can have it. She u. I think towards the end of the film, she disguises herself as a seagull with a potion and she's got the potion that can that can change her back, and she just makes it back and has the potion, but there isn't really enough and she's left with one seagull leg. I thought that was pretty sexy at the time. Whoever, what was going on when I was little unbelievable frightening child.

I don't know. Maybe someone's going to sit down, I mean some an imagine new person is going to sit down and watch him the Tiger and see that last scene of this witch going oh no, my one seagull leg and go oh yeah, no, I get it. Yeah it sound sexy when you describe it. Yeah, I mean, who you know, one seagull leg with very poor special effect. She's also she really cannot resist chips after that, particularly eating outside. Also the one seagull leg, So does that

mean she's very Is it a very long leg? Oh no, it's human science. It's a human size, I mean. And also in terms of special effects, I think it covers up her actual legs. It's more like an elephant's foot. Yeah. What subjectively the greatest film of all time? Yeah? Okay, so just on the list, not from me. I have to say, I really don't think you can say this, Kenny. I mean, you could pick a film for all time, but only subjectively because you've got to be in the

mood for it, you know what I mean. You could say, Okay, it's The Searchers, and then you know, you could argue that point or Citizen Kane. But I think in real terms, in real life, if a film hits all the dots, if a film is within its own compass, perfect like a juel, you know, and then you see a film and you think that's really good, and then it starts to become multi dimensional, like so you see that. I don't know. The script supports the story, the casting, the

music is perfect. The storytelling is helped by the music and the casting. The storytelling builds up to the surprises, and every every time you look at it, every time you watch it again, you find a new detail which supports your very first idea of how good it is. That's one hundred percent, isn't it. That's five stars. Those are the best films, and there's loads of them, you know, I think that. I don't know. I think Frozen is a perfect film that really, you know, and a school

of rock. School of Rock is the matrix they all in terms of succeeding in what they set out to do. Good were hunting. They just bang right on the money. So I think, you know, my true answer would be those loads. But I think really maybe, And that's also to do with what we're saying about popular films. You know, it's very easy to say I love this piece of art.

You know, a couple of years after first views day off, if you'd ask me this, I'd just said, winds of Desire, No two ways about it, that's be fantastic, Windo Desire. I stand by it. It's a great film. I loved it, but it is just a specific film for a moment in time, and it's not better because it's the arthouse

or black and white, you know what I mean. So I think when films really say something and are really entertaining, and specifically you could walk in and say, well, that was a really cracking yarn or that really changed how I feel about the whole subject, you know, like a good poem, and those are probably the best, like get Out or Bloody Parasite. You either works as a kind of treatise on modern society or just a cracking story.

And I watched one the other day, which I think I did see once years ago, but I saw it again and it fits that description of being perfect and small and everything supports everything, and it's an entertainment, but it's also truly a piece of art that sort of has echoes throughout the conversation. Let's go with the conversation. Great great film, great answer. I mean, when you think

about everything, how everything supports everything. The music that David Shiner is so odd and intellectual, and yet it's also a great thing too. It's just it's melodic. You can hook into it. It's a fantastic film. It's a really good that film. Good answer. What is the film that you could or have? What's the most over and over again? Yeah, I mean it's funny, isn't it. I think it's really important your past tense have watched over and over again.

It really counts, doesn't it, Because you don't plan it, you know, like I would think it would be. I'm sure this is everyone's It's an obvious one and I love it. It's midnight Run, but I don't actually watch Midnight Run that often. I think it's too important to me. Whereas a film like The Fugitive, if it's on Telly, I'll watch it, watch it to the end. So I think the one that kind of sums it, I'd just

like men running, you know, let's see it. But Harrison falls a flappy Runny's a bad runner, remember Joe Heenan pointing out that's why Joe Heena loves a clumsy hero. So it's Indiana Jones in that first scene is all dusty, so it's gonna fall over and Robert redferends clumsy, isn't it anyway? What did I say? I didn't say the one that I always watch, but I do really love. But it's a sort of classic, sort of generics in

the line of five, what a great film. I can't I'm always going back to in the Line of five. I think it's just exactly that, isn't it. It's like a good old fashioned it's well, I think there's something. I think Clint Eastwood in it has got a elevates it with them. I mean, he's he's miscasting. Really, he's older than the characters should be. But it's so lovely to see Clint Eastwood gives such good vulnerable, doesn't he. He plays old really well. Really, there's no modesty to it.

And the other thing he does in the Line of Fire, which is really weird, how much I love it. But it's one of the best colds and he gets a cold. Ah, he's got a cold on the plane and says, oh, it's astonishing. I love in the Line of Fight. It's definitely in the Line of Fire, great great, great, great film. Although I should say say, on, behalf of my children, and you know, like, ah, she's so much younger than him, come on, that is true. But if it's going to

be anyone, that should be Reneusso she's perfect. She plays that role a lot, the kind of in within sexist Hollywood, giving the agency to the slightly older, you know, get shorty in the line of Fire, Thomas Crown Affair, you can't really Nathan. Weapon three is great. I always liked to important the first two. Yeah, we don't like to be negative. What's the worst film you ever saw? Well? I like to be negative. It's interesting, isn't it? Because I think when you get down there, I don't really

like to be negative. I don't know why I said that. It's just being contrary, which is the same thing, isn't it? Cut? Please cut that, Please cut that bit from joke. I don't want them to see the real me. I've learned to cry. I won't kill again. I come back. I do miss you. I couldn't want it now. I'm like, wouldn't sit down to eteen now because it would ruin my day. One of these days I'll get back to it. It's too hard. In no way, I will never watch

that film again. Do you find getting older that you avoid films that are going to make you cry? I've avoided et since I was six. Yeah, I'm no fault. Yeah, if you're emotionally letter at the time that I'm talking about the scarringiness of melting faces and burnt certain things on fire, But what about the scariness of a Broken Heart. It's lucky, It's lucky my hard carapace of emotionlessness was in place. Now there's two, specifically, two different kinds of

terrible films, aren't there. There's terrible films that are just completely flat. They just don't engage, don't care, you know, the scripts, rubbish, nothing rings true, They're just they're just flat. They're just inert And then there's terrible films where you don't know what's going on, what were they thinking, what's

even happening now? And what's weird is that the second kind they're probably worse, but they're also much more entertaining, you know what I mean, because you know something like I don't know, Battlefield Earth. It's a sharking film, but it's eminently watchable. It's all over the place. Yeah, Whereas there's sort of various sort of like sequels and things that you just think. So I think one of the worst films I ever saw in the cinema was the

was the was the Avengers, the British TV series Avengers. Okay, I don't know what was happening in that film. I mean, it just didn't Piny finds in with Therma Sean Connery and years it looked like it was going to be good. It was incomprehensible and loads of people not talking. People worry about a script. They just cut the script. It's like Moonmaker, just screeds and screens and screen time and

nobody talking and not much happening at all. But anyway, no, No, the worst film and history of cinema is Michael Winner's Bulls Eye with Roger Moore and Michael Caine, which is fabulously entertaining, but my god, it's bad. And it's because it's bad anyway, because it's got this kind of gleeful They made it as their mates, and they're both playing duel roles, so you get Roger Moore and Michael Caine doing accents, Michael Caine in full bad Michael Caine rather

than good Michael Caine road and Roger Moore. I mean, it's fun, but it's so bad, like technically bad. There's a bit where a guy goes and knocks on the door in the train and then the person who answers the door shoots him. I think it's a long time

watched it again and somehow the special fit. I think they did it with a mannequin or something, but the guy kind of shatters, you know, it's like bits of non It's a similar effect, but without deliberately being a joke, as when the guy in Top Secret falls off the tower the GYMNASTI he goes, there's like Willham skin falls in the tower and then when he hits the ground at the bottom, he smashes like a vase. So Michael

Winner does that, but without any comic intent. And my friend Ferg was watching this and I was sitting next to him, and he said to me, that's the worst thing I've ever seen. You know, I could stand by that. It was the worst thing I've ever seen. There's a bit at the end where they oh, and the other thing is that Michael Caine being an expert at darts is a key is a key thing in being able

to throw darts. Oh god. And there's a bit at the end where they jump over a building on a motorbike, which is terrible anyway, But then I remember the scene. It's so obviously an assistant just pushing a motorbike front wheel into shot. You know what, I really Oh, it's brilliantly bad. I don't think you hear enough about how bad Fall's Eye is and it's watch all right, you've probably sold that what you're in comedy. You're a comedian.

You're very funny. Thanks the film that made you laughter most. Oh yeah, I've just mentioned Top Secret. That's that's got a lot of good jokes and it's good. It's funny, isn't it? Because I think the ones who we laugh the most tend to be a little bit you get slightly less narrative, like they need to really commit to the comedy, you know, Like I know that on Sean of the Dead they really made a point of saying,

let's not go that's. If it's a choice between the laugh line and keeping the emotional curve of the film, We're going to do the latter so that you get a film. And that's that's absolutely inspired. They're exactly right, won't they. And when you think about this, the ones that make you laugh the most the ones that don't

matter and it's just funny, you know. I mean, honestly, when Joe Peshi sets his own head on fire at the end of Home Alone, I don't think in that specifically at that moment, I don't think I've ever laughed louder in the cinema when just they just hold on it for oh god, I laughed. So I think a film that made me laugh all the way through, even though it's decidedly patchy. But when it made me laugh laugh, laugh, I you know, was people around me were looking at

me in the cinema. I think, what's he going to do? Because I laugh loud anyway, laugh like my dad, that's my And then and when it's really funny, I kind of flail around. You know people do that, they sort of fall up the chair and stuff. I think it's Wayn's world too, ways world too when he has Cassandra's dad. Honestly, I didn't know what I was going to do in the I laughed as much as when I saw Rick my ole life. It was like, oh my, oh my,

would and when is the scene going to end? You know, it just kept coming and again I don't understand by it. Doubtless pretty indefensible, but my memory. And it isn't as good as a film. It's not as good as Waynesville. But the funny bits in it. That scene, oh I laughed. I like that. Answering, Rob Deering, you have been an absolute delight very much as expected. I too have fantasized

about this episode with you. It has outlived my expectations. However, when you were hanging out in the small village where you used to be, yeah, if they found out who that was yet, well they have. What happened was you were you were, you know where you lived, next to the baker and the doctor and the candlestick maker. And you've gone for a walk and there appeared little old lady called miss Marple, and she said, hey, I'm just visiting.

And he said, oh, it's lovely to see you. And she said, would you mind walking me through the woods, And you said, absolutely, of course I would. I love nature trails. I usually ran Miss Marple, and you took her arm and you walked. And as you headed towards some trees where no one could see you, she pulled a axe from her back pocket, little MINIAX, and she chopped you in the fucking head with it, and she repeatedly struck you in the head with her little axe

until you were dead. And yeah, and then no spoilers, but she then framed the candlestick maker for your murder. And that person is still languishing in jail and she are you saying, do you think that she did all the murders in all the stories? Apparently it's not for me to say what other murders she may have done. I just know she did this one. And an axe

that small could be very convenient. Now, I was walking through the woods in this little Sylvanian family town and I and I sit and I'm like, what's this up ahead? I'm walking along with the coffin, you know what I'm like, And I see animals tearing apart the corpse of someone, and then pull up and I'm like, oh, that's robbed deering. When you say animals, were they wild animals or were

they hedgehogs dressed as doctors? There was doctor doctor Badger, and Baker Baker of Beaver, and the candlestick cat and the ropolis. They were there. Their essential nature had been revealed, and they were tearing me to and that's interesting. They were eating your SI said, shoe, get out of it. And I did what I could. I got the bits of you that I could into the coffin. But there was shrubbery, wood sticks, all sorts. Anyway that stuff you

in the coffin. It's absolutely jammed in there like some kind of nightmare usually, and there's no room in this movisually there's only enough room for me to one DVD into the side for you to take across to the other side. And on the other side it's movie night every night. What film are you taking to show the

people of heaven when it's your movie night, mister Robding? Yeah, yeah, this is really interesting, isn't it in terms of what we said, because you want to take you want to say, I'm going to take this film that I absolutely love. You know I could. I wonder Wat's too grit? Every day? I would cry so much every day. I don't want to watch Midnight Run every day. I would cry so much every day in the middle of there, in that

scene where you know the scene. So I think, if I'm brewedally honest, let's be completely honest about this, I don't think I could ever get sick of watching in the Line of Fire, So I would stay with that

it's going to be. And if I can make an emotional claim, I think that I really relate to Clint Eastward in these films of his vulnerability, because he does remind me emotionally of my late wonderful dad who was absolutely fantastic and the best dad, but also in the manner of someone born in nineteen forty two, not given to bold, wild displays of emotion or hugs. And so what I'm saying is that what seems like a fairly crass answer does actually have some emotional depth. So yeah,

I've got a psychopath. All I need to tell you, Mother of blood blood, I'm taking in a line of fire and I'm not ashamed. Rob Deering, is there anything you would like to tell people to look out or to listen to or to read in the coming times, Well, if you are basically the stuff that you should look out for relating to me, it's currently all running related. So check that out. I did, and it's all. I've got two podcasts, Running Commentary where me and Paul Tomkinson

talk about life and running while we run. You got the Running Tracks Radio Hour where I do the playlist. You don't have to run. You could just listen to the songs. They're great, but you will have to listen to me running telling you about them. And then there's the Book of that which is nice. Again if you want to, you know, dig a bit deeper into the emotion of thing. But it's funny. My book Running Checks. The playlist and places that made a runner is available.

It's gorgeous. It's got Oh can I show you a picture? Wait there, wait there, You've got to see this, damn it. It's relevant. I should have had one handy. He's running to the back of the room. He's running back saying, yes, the running have you been standing this whole time? Yeah, that's that's where the computer is. Love it. Look you can see why I got this bass inspired cover. That gorgeous.

That is genuinely very cool. It's by me Coop, but it was my idea and it looks like for those of you listening, it looks it's called Running Checks, but it looks like what we're talking about anatomy of a murder that's even murder of a man running on the grooves of a record. Yeah, yeah, well you did you imagine a murder with an axe from a sweet little old lady. Thanks very much, but yeah, and fifty percent of the profits of that go to Parkinson's UK. Very nice.

I'm thinking I am going to start a movie podcast because I feel like, you know, there's a gap in the market. Yeah, Yeah, that's going to be called the extras D of the movies, and it's not going to be as good as this one, but look out for it. It Rob doing God, bless you. Thank you for your time. Have a lovely death. Thanks for having me. Sorry I had to die for that to take place. Real shame. Lots of love. Good day to you, good bye. So

that was episode one hundred and ninety six. Head over to patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes of chat Secrets in video with Rob. Go to Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating. But right about the film that means the most to you and why I'll tell you why you should do that because my neighbor more In loves reading it always makes her cry. Thank you so much to Rob for doing this show. Thank you to Scruby's pipping the Distraction

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