Rachel Fairburn • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #228

think about it. I'm trying to concentrate. It's hard out there, man, Yeah, it's hard, okay, Henry, Well, thanks for sharing. Every week I'm about a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Sharon Stone, Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, Jamila Jamil and even Shed Clambles. But this week it's the brilliant comedian Rachel Fairburn.

Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra twenty minutes with Rachel, where we talk about secrets, we talk about beginnings and endings, all sorts of stuff. You get the whole episode, uncut and ad free, and as a video. You can find all of that and more over at patreon dot com. Forward slash Brett Goldstein So, Rachel Fairburn

is a brilliant comedian and podcaster. You know her from her podcast with Kirie Pritchard, McLean, All Killer, No Filler, Massive hit Show. She also has her own podcast she's launched recently called Goold Guide, which is right up my street, and you should check that out. We recorded this over Zoom a few weeks ago. She's fucking funny. I think you're gonna love this one. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and twenty eight of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and

welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer, a award winner, a comedian, a podcaster, a serial killer, a true crime pioneer, and a hero and a myth and a person. And we can't believe she's here. Yes, you asked for it. If she is, I can't believe I've got her. You can't believe she's in your ears. Ladies and gentlemen, please run to the show. It's Rachel Verburn. Hello, thank you very much for welcome there. Hi, welcome, Thanks

for doing this. How are you pleasure? I'm all right. How are you? Where are you? I'm fine? Thanks? Where are you? I'm in wealtham Stow in London. Oh that's where I live. You don't live in Manchester? No, no, I sound like this, but I live in London. So this is this is fake. This is a just character bit, is it? Oh it's it's just a character this. Yeah, yeah, I genuinely been I stop before. Yeah, yeah, so I did.

I was like semifinal, so you think you're funny. Years ago in Edinburgh one of the judges came up to me, when are you a character? It was like, no, I'm a person. That's so. I mean it's a good character. I've really committed it, really committed committed to it. Yeah, you got for Landy cover on it. I respect. Now. You famously did a podcast for many years which just stopped. Now right, it's still going. It's still going. It never stops. It's been going for eight years. Never stopped. So sorry.

I thought there was a threat if you stopping it. It never stopped. No, oh Kirie who I did the podcast within She did say one of the episodes, we're going to stop when we get to sixty nine as a joke, and then and then that sort of people panicked, which she kept doing, and I said, you gonna stop doing that because people are getting upset, which she continued with it. And now we're on episode eight or whatever it is. Well, I'm sorry to say that I took

me having no sense of human took. They're very seriously stopped listening at you say this is what happens. I told yeah, yeah, Now your podcast is about serial killers, killers, yes, killing, true crime, murder. Why do you think there is such a desire for true crime stuff? Why is it so big? And particularly with women? If I may say, what's your theory?

It's always been big? Though this is a thing like every so often you'll get asked to go on like a radio show, like I'd say, twice a year ago, I need someone to come on and talk about why true crime is so big, And it's like, well, it's always been big, because even if you think back to like say, even you know, people used to go to public executions, people used to enjoy, you know, reading about horrible murders in the Victorian days and stuff like that,

even going further and further back. But true because I remember I've I was been into it when I was about thirteen or remember reading something that said and I was shocked at the time. It is, you know, women are the people who buy the most true crime books. I was like, I was like, oh, that's amazing. But then obviously, I think it's because men are out committing the crimes mainly, so they ain't time to read the books. It's busy doing them, and we're just like, like, we'll

read about them. I just think because women. I think it's because women are less likely. I mean, obviously not all men are murderers, but I just think women are less likely to commit violent crime. So we fascinated by it. How many female serial killers are not that well, you tend to know who they are. So I mean, you've got Eiland were us, Yeah, shout out to Eileen. There's um, I mean obviously, then you've got Rose West and Marie Hindley, but they did it as a couple. There's Carla Homolka

as well. Who's he committed crimes? I think it's a Canada and she did it as part of a couple. So women tend to do it in pairs rather than on their own. What does that tell us? Yeah? What does that tell that tells us a story? Doesn't do it too easily influenced? No, you just you just like a company while I was doing stuff. That's it. Yeah, also one to chat with that's really interesting and a great theory that men and that insustry grows there too busy doing it and they don't want to read up.

Oh I don't want to read about what I did last night. You know what I mean? I did it. No, having a podcast that relies on history and stories and stuff, does it become a chore? Do you ever think, o, god, we're running out of fucking stuff? No, well, this is it. When we do live shows. We don't really do serial killers for the live show because it's too much and we've only got like ninety minutes or whatever. So we pick like an historical murder, or we'll pick something like

the Craigswins, you know, something like that. But there is a lot of research goes into it, and I don't know it's it can get a bit boring, and you do it you I'm not. I'm genuinely asked, like you you two do the research? You don't? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah we do. We do everything that there was talk about. Oh, you know, to take the pressure off a bit. Do

you want someone else to research? Absolutely not. No. If you don't do the research, you can't find the funny bits, which sounds stupid because it's about murders, but you know that's there's all the sort of you've got to find that springboard to the funny story that you're going to tell. So you can only do that from doing all the research. I love it. It's very committed, very committed. Do you ever go, Fuck, we've got another episode and I haven't done my home works? Well, do you know what? I'm

really good? So I like, yesterday I sat and did about an hour and a half. I tied up all the notes and I sent it to Kiy like there you go, it's ready done. But I have another podcast now as well. I do one about ghosts. Oh please tell me everything about this. I'm banging into ghosts. I bang into ghosts, ghost and Tree grow, I see I

love ghosts as well. So it's called Girl Guide and it's out now and it's six episodes and basically I got to go to haunted places around the UK and or, as one person on the internet pointed out, we didn't actually go to Northern Irelands. He didn't go to all of the UK, but we'll leave that. And I stayed at night and you know exactly name all the UK. Realize I don't know what it is. I went to England and Scotland there you go, and Wales there you go.

Thank you? And yeah, so the premises, I get told three stories by a local storyteller about the location and I've got to decide which is the true one. Oh wow, have you seen a ghost? Oh well, I'm going to ruin the podcast now, But no, have you? Yes? Have you? I've talked about it a lot. I've experienced the post. It's another story you have to I've told this story too many times. I'm a friend to go into it

with you. But okay, well you've got you can have to tell me where I can hear you talk about it. I'm all pro ghost post. Wow, but having done your podcast, do you think there are ghosts. Ye, see the things. I've been obsessed with goals since was a kid. It's pretty much all I engage with. Supernatural reading, spooky story, is any old ghost crap, I'll read it right. I'm into it. So I'm on the fence all the time. Sometimes I'm one hundred percent there are gods, and then

sometimes I'm like, no, there's not. And then, you know, a couple of things happened when we're making a podcast that I was like, oh, this is spooky. This feels a bit odd. There's bad vibes here. But then you don't know. You might be getting in your own head. So have you had any experience that you would say

is unexplained? Yes? So I used to live with my grandparents and when my grandma died, me and my mum the night before the funeral, was sitting in the living room at my grandma's house and we were just chatting. We're watching EastEnders. Don't get me wrong, we were grieving as well. We weren't, you know, we weren't just like Poppy standers on. And so then we watching it and cheer ourselves up. And I said, did you put the

washing machine on? I almost said no, I was just going to ask you the same question, and a washing machine had just started going in kitchen where we were doing. Two people in the house, so I was like, that's weird. Al we thought it was a bit peculiar. About ten minutes later, the doorbell went. I went to the front door. There was nobody there, and there was no one on the road. There was nobody. It was if someone had a rung the doorbell, I would have would have seen them.

And my mum does not believing anything supernatural whatsoever, but and I do an adult, you know, I sort of flip between two. But I think it was one of those things where maybe because there was heightened emotion in the house, and you know, I don't know. That's the only thing I can put it down to. Even though it was me Graham, Grandma. I put the washing on and then rang the doorbed and said, don't forget to take the washing out there, you go something like that.

Although she did, I was threatened, like she's because she didn't believe in anything supernatural. She's to say, I would approved to you if there are ghosts when I die, I'm going to come back and I'm going to haunt you. I mean, she was lovely grand much was. I'm going to haunt you in the way you'll know that it's me is You'll be in bed one night and I'll grab your feet so I now can't sleep with my feet out of the bed. Wow. You know, I'm going to tell you somebody. I'm not going to say who

this is because they're close to me. I hope it's so gay to tell. I'll just keep it as an anonymous person. I know their dad died when they were quite young, and they was so desperate to see their dad again that they prayed and prayed, please just let me see you again. And then their dad appeared at the end of their bed, and they were so scared they just they ran away. They screamed it right away, but like sort of and half regretted being so scared,

you know what I mean. Anyway, Oh, wow, that's incredible in it it is and I think why not? Yeah, I think why not? I think yeah, I definitely think your grandma put the washing end. I mean it might have been the equivalent. It feels a bit passive aggressive from you. Was your name passive aggressive? She could be well I'll do this, shall I like pretty much. Yeah, yeah, very much. So ding dong. I'll do the washing, shall

I fascinating? I like all this. Well is the thing, Rachel, something I didn't that I'd forgotten to tell you, And it's very interesting in this particular case. You're dead. You're a ghost right now. You already died. You died, You're dead. Thank God. Well, to be honest with you, I do feel like I'm dying. I've got the worst sore throat and I feel like that kid at school, you know, like I was wiping its nose on it. I feel like that kid. But I am dead. How did you die?

I'd like to thank you ro quickly. But I always think that I'll probably die in sort of some unfortunate accident, like someone on any scoot or hit me or you know, are always get that feeling because you're when you're on the tube or whatever at a train station. I always think someone will pushed me onto the tracks. I always think something like that. But that's how I'll go, And it will be one of them where I'm like, oh, no, not to day. Did you think it pissed you? Oh?

Just a local nutter. Yeah, I didn't even know me. Just somebody thought, you know what out that it will be wrong place, wrong time. That's that. Yeah, and it'll be one of those things going oh if she, if only should have left the house half an hour later, none of this would have happened. Did they think you were carrying because they'd mixed up your voices from the podcast? There you go, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, man, it was someone else to carry, and they pushed in

front the chain. And I hate to get into maybe we shouldn't talk about this. Let's talk about it. I don't understand people who jump in front of trains. Oh god, yeah, I don't understand the mechanics of it. Do you know what I mean? Are they are they killed by the impact of the front of the train or are they run over by the train? Or is it I'm sorry to be so, I think it's both. I think it's

probably the impact. Bo. I think you've got you've got a time, it's so well, the timing's got to be right, you've got to be like you know now and then, But also you are going to be dragged under it. I imagine. I do think about it. I'd say every time I'm on the tube, I think about it. I think where in the platform do you stand as well? Because if you if you're too far down, you might jump and it's not going fast enough. You just saw. That's what I was think. When it's coming into the station,

it's not going faster a visit, it's slowing down. Bounce a bit and then fit a bit embarrassing. Yeah, sorry, but I think that's probably you get dragged under it there. That's probably the I think you've got maybe more chance to survive in But I think most people that jump in front of tubes maybe do it when it's out you know where a bit where it goes outside and it's like a it's an outside train. Then oh you

think they do it on an outside train? Yeah, So like when sometimes when the tube comes out, like when you come out of Paddlington or you're going to Heathrow and it goes out, Yeah, and it's an out it's an outdoor train at that point. YouTube, Yeah, it's an outtube. I think people do it there. But then obviously all that the backlog is all the trains have to stop. Why do you think they do it on an outta Because it's going faster, is it, and it's easier, right,

I just think it's I just I don't know. I just think it's a bit difficult. If the trains come into a station, so you're saying they do it not at the station, they walk up a bit. Yeah that's what I mean. Yeah, you have to walk up a bit. It's very awful and awful for the driver everyone and horrible. Yeah, I mean it's a terrible, a really terrible time. So thank you for choosing that death. Of course, a lot of kind is a real shame. Do you worry about death? No,

not really, I'm not scared of dying. When I was a kid who used to be scared to death of death, and I used to be worried about people dying all the time, like I think this is why I've got obsessive compulsive disorder now. I was obsessed, Like I used to be so frightened thinking, oh, my grandparents are going to die. I mean, obviously they are dead now, but it was just this worry that I used to have constantly,

constantly worried about people dying. I'm worried about I don't want other people to die, but I'm not really asked if I Once you found out your grandparents were carry on doing your worshing. Did you relax a bit? I did, actually, yeah, sort of chilled out a bit. Do you know what started that? Do you remember if you had it when you were young, what made you go, everyone's going to die? Do you remember where it came through it? I think it's because I was brought up by my parents and

my grandparents. But I lived with my grandparents because I just really there was no people. I was going, oh, why did you live with your grandparents? Were your parents me? And I'm like, now, I just really liked my grandparents.

I just loved it. I thought were great. But they were old four grandparents because my mum's the youngest of six, so even as four grandparents, they were old people because like my granddad when she was like ninety three at ninety four, and I just I just think one day I realized like, oh, no, they're old and they're going to dine. I don't want them to. And I think that was probably from when it was about seven. Wow, So I developed this sort of It's definitely why I've

got OCD. Now. I used to all these weird, little sort of ritualistic things, like I used to say this sort of little prayer in my head all the time. If I saw somebody like an old person, I say his little prayer in my head so that they'd be all right. I mean the arrogance really that I thought any control over someone's life. Do you think there's enough

to life? I don't know. I believe it's sort of I think I sort of believe in not reincarnation, but I do think you can retain someone else's memories about things, or like you can pick up on feelings, which is what I think ghosts maybe are. You can pick up on someone's sort of emotion in a certain scenario, if that makes sense, or you know, any you get these weird kids that are like, oh, I used to be a fighter pilot and I remember dying in this field.

And there's a really weird case. I think it was in Newcastle, this young lad who said that he was from being a kid, who said there was a German pilot who had been killed in a war, and gave all this information and then you saw a picture them both together and there was spitting image of each other, and it was so weird. It's such a weird story. Yeah, And I was like that and this lad died really young as well. He died like when he was like twenty five in a motorbike accident. I was like, that's

too fucking weird. Even his parents were like, this is weird. We think he is this man, We've got no explanation for it. So I do think sometimes you can sort of. I don't know. I think something like that exists, but I don't really know how to explain it. Well, you're not far off, no surprise. There is a heaven. Oh great, your grandparents there, everyone's there. It's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Oh, my favorite thing? Oh god,

is it serious? No? Probably oasis, right, okay, well it's the oasis. It's filled with the gallaghers. I mean there's I don't regret this, but there's a million gallaghers there. Oh they're really fun and they're seeing really catty, so for they're great, but there's a million of it over there. Oh wow. I'm still happy with the choice. And they are very excited to see you. The g and well, they want to talk about you, but they want to

talk about you through the medium of film. And the first thing they ask is, what's the first film you remember seeing our Kid. The first film I remember seeing was Pinocchio, Disney's Pinocchio in the cinema. I'm not that old, but it was re released, you O Disney, just like when it was hard to see a Disney film. And I was very, very small. It was the first time I ever went to the cinema and I must have been about three, maybe maybe a little bit older, I'm

not sure. And it was in the cinema which I think was the Audience on Oxford Road in Manchester, and my mom took me to see it, and I remember the horrible bit in the film where the boy turns into the donkey, yeah, and that frightened me. And I remember towards the end of the film, a very very tall man came and sat in front of us, and my mum kicked off. She was like, he for real coming in here sitting in front of her, which three

years old films nearly over. So I remember that and I think being a bit scared because my mom was kicking off and be scared of the film, and I didn't. I don't. I don't really like that film now, to be honest, I think it was a bit horrible. It is horrible. It's horrible. It's a very creepy film. Why did the scary man come in so late? That's so dodgy? What was he doing? This gay tool man? I have no idea why this block came in so late. I mean, we will never know. But he came. It must have

been five minutes towards the end. Maybe he'd seen it yesterday and there'd been a fiery alam and he haven't seen the end, and the cinema and said you can come back. He needed to see the very end of which I can't remember the end of that film. I mean, I'm sure it's a happy ending. Well I think he becomes a real boy. Ah, yes, I think he does. I'm going to say this is a shout out. Yemo del Toro has made a new Pinocchio. Stop Stop most Animals.

It's fucking brilliant. Really, it's so good. It's when the films of the year, and I recommend you see it. It's fantastic. Okay, it has its moments scary. Do you have ciblings, Yes, I have a sister. She's six years younger. We never used to get on, but now we're getting a lot better. Now we're older. Okay, basically, your mom took me to the cinema. But what a scary film? What is the film that made you cry the most?

Are you crying? Not? Really. If I see an old person, I just immediately get upset and I go, oh, gonna hope they're all right. Oh, hope that they've got a family. Oh, I hope that they're warm enough. And I started getting upset.

And I think this is because I was brought up by my grandparents, and I'm one of those people that just automatically thinks that all old people are nice, right, So you know, you know when you see these like war crime trials and there's like a nine year old man in the dock and he's been a horrible bastard and he's committed awful crimes, I'm like, oh, it's just an old guy. Now I have this, and I know I'm just gonna so stuff like that upset it. Or like twenty four Hours in A and E that kind

of stuff where people are injured. I get very upset about stuff like that. For films, I don't really get upset. I remember watching I mean I really liked the film Brief Encounter. Yeah, I remember watching that and thinking, well, this is sad, isn't it. I think she should just have left her husband and yeah, gone off with him. You know, she's miserable. Yeah, it's a really sad film. The ending of that film is devastating because that fucking

woman comes in interrupts them. Remember absolutely, it's such a sort of British thing as well. It's such a British film that there's just two people too polite to say, can you fuck off? We're actually having a private moment. This is actually very very important. Yeah, this is literally the end of the film. You're having weather or whatever. Oh it's very cold, that isn't it? Shut up? Yeah that really still. I can't believe that the train was late today. I just says that. Yeah, it's like not

now dooe, yes, do you too know each other? Yes, we're in love. Oh god, that's that's the see. I don't really cry. I remember watching that film Edward years ago. Yeah, and then I got very upset, and I can't remembering about the film. This is the problem I watch films. I can't remember I about it. I just remember being really upset about Belle and GHOSTI being like like dying. Yeah, I just got very very upset. You're you're a Nan kid. I am a Nan kids, N kids, I'm a Nan kid.

I under I'm a Nan kid. This is it very sweet. It's interesting because nine kids are are often sweet and lovely and very like you say, very caring about how people. But it's interesting you're not moved by fiction. It's interesting that No, I'm not. It's I think I think I'm just very like, well, I know this isn't you know? They're not really in love, he's not really dying. I don't have that. You like your crime true? I do? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever seen a fictional film of a true

crime that you've gone like? Yeah, that was great. Weirdly, I watched like an old nineties TV movie about John Wayne Gacy the other day, and he's got one of the one of the Baldwins in it, the one that know, the one that you can't remember, Daniel, who's the other one? Another one Stephen. It might be that I'm not sure you're making it something now. I'm not there. It sounds like one of my dad's mate. I started watching it thinking, oh, this is going to be shit. I think I got

really in it. I was like that was actually quite good. So, but I don't know, I don't really like I hate all these you know, I don't like that Netflix drama about Jeffrey Dama. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's necessary sometimes to make a drama about something that that's happened, that's really been really horrible. Yeah. True. What's the film that scared you to my Do you like being scared? With all this stuff you do? Do you find it scary or are you just interested? Both?

But I love being scared? Okay, love it? I think no idea. I just really really like it. I sort of. I think I'm always chasing to feel frightened constantly. I'll love it. I'll love it, love being scared. But it's like it's like anything, the more you engage with it, the harder it is to scare me. But the film that scare me the most was Poltergeist. I was working this out the other day, So polter Geist came out in nineteen eighty two, and I saw Poltergeist when I

was three years old. And the reason I saw it when I was three years old because my dad had got it out from the video shot Porky's video genuine shot in Manchester. And my cousin, who also used to spend a lot of time with my grandparents, she was off school ill, and if I remember rightly, she had something weird, like months or something. And I was sitting with so she's she's six years old than me, so

she would have been nice. I remember sitting in the front room at my grandparents house and my dad was like, my dad Welsh. He was like, oh, I got to take this video back to the shop, but I have watched it yet, and he was looking afterwards and he thought, oh, it'll be fine. I'll just put Poltergeist on and this three year old and this nine year olds could watch it. And I remember being so it was one of those you know, it was like a sort of a sunny

afternoon as well. And he closed the curtains, you know, so he could see the TV. But and I remember sitting on myself being so frightened, and my cousin was crying, and I was so frightened. My dad was carrying on watching a film, and my mom came home from work and she was like, are you off your head? How? Why are you letting these two watch this, and then that that was it. Then I was I just remember

I wouldn't go to bed on my own. I remember being even up until being an adult, because my grandparents lived in it was a council house, but it was a Victorian house because it was such a big family. They got they got moved into one of the big Victorian houses. And I remember being so frightened of everything, and I put it back to seeing polter Geist. I used to have to get people to wait at the bottom of the stairs while I went for a week

because I was so frightened of everything. But yeah, it has to be polter Geist, the one you know, like the just little bits of it that the TV. And oh yeah, so my dad blame him for that. And then I actually, probably about six months later, we still at my mom still got the picture I was drawing and said, oh, what are you drawing there? And I went, it's Poltergeist. And I threw this like, oh my god, Mom still got it. I drew this like monster with all these eyes on its head and stuff like that.

She was like, Oh, I can't believe this is so that. It's definitely that one that scared me the most. This was the beginning of your love of being scared. I think so, yeah, so you knew you started making sense to the word. That's all you know. That's sort of sort of what happened with me and twim peaks. I blame my but you know, I'm grateful for It's all I think about, you know nothing, Yeah, yeah, what is

the film that you love? People don't like it, critics hate it, but you think it's fucking brilliant and you don't care. This is really difficult because, as I say, when I watched things, I just go over go oh that was all right, Oh oh that was scary, or I've just wandered off half way through while started reading something. I mean, it's a film that is that is bad and he's meant to be bad, but I absolutely love it.

It's The Room, Yeah, it's it's it's brilliant. I remember the first time I ever saw that was years ago. My friend Martin, who's brilliant of films, he said to me, this, this film, it's the words film ever made. It's called The Room. And I remember, and I'm not I don't download things illegally because I don't really know how to do it, but he got it for me, and I remember watching it and I was like, oh my god, this is amazing, Like it's just so bad but it's

so enjoyable. Yeah, I always want. Asked to help on a jury for films offer an awards. Thing turned out I really didn't enjoy it. I didn't I didn't like sort of judging, you know, I didn't like because all films are very hard to make it anyway. But we watched a number of very like worthy, incredibly boring films, like really really boring, so boring. I was like, all these films are so boring and they're good, I suppose

like they're well, they're so boring. And then there was this film that a man had self financed, he acted, wrote, produce, directed, and it was so insane and so bad and so like every actor was terrible. It was very very bad. But what it wasn't was boring. It was so not boring. It was thrilling. And I said to the to the to the group, I was like, I nominated this one, and everyone was like, come on, take this seriously, and

I was like, I am being serious. I can't tell you why, I can't explain it, but this was far and away the most entertaining. Like I was all the the films we're talking about, I was bored, I was checking my watch, I was thinking of other things. This one I was engaged. I was lust in it. I had so many questions. It was fascinating. It's like I remember, Yeah, I remember more about the room than I do most things.

You know, little things that you'll say, like anything for my princess, that kind of thing, or like when it just says hi dogging so that dog fits in the shop. Yeah, oh hi, Mark. It's so funny. It's just so funner. And the sex scene in it is horrible. It's horrible. It looks like it is physique. It's like a badly packed sausage. But he doesn't care because he's making this film.

I think it's just incredible. I think you mean you get more enjoyment out of the room than you do out of like you say something like, oh god, here we go. What lesson? What lesson do I have to learn in this now? Yeah? And there's a magic. There is a magic to it. Because there are bad films that are not entertaining, that are just sort of bad, and usually they're boring. It's when they're boring, I think, but yeah, the room is not boring. No, not at all.

What is the film you used to love but you've watched it recently and you're going, oh, no, I don't like this anymore. Whatever. Well, as when I was growing up, I was obsessed with Bill and Ted, obsessed love Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Love Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. And I did start watching The Excellent Adventure recently and I was like, oh, I'm going to have to turn it off because I don't think I'm going to enjoy it. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to ruin this to myself,

and I want to keep it. I used to watch it every single day, every day on video, come on from school, put that, watch it again and again and again, and I just I went to watch it. I was like, no, don't leave it because a couple of minutes and I went, I think it is I don't think I'm going to enjoy it as much as used to enjoy it. To leave it. So that was smart. Can you can you point why or was it just a general I don't know what it was. It was just it was my

good instinct and I went along with it. I was like, no, I'm going to have to just leave this bridge because things. If I like a film, that's it for me. I'll watch it every month for the next fifty years. You know, I can't really think of anything that. Okay, here here's something, this is this is what I learned. So I used to really love Sex in the City. Yeah, it was very of its time. When I was young. I was like,

this is amazing. Love it, love it, love it. And I went to the cinema to watch the film and I was like, Oh my god, I can't believe they made a film of this. It's amazing. And then I started watching the series and I put the film on and I was like, oh god, that film. I just like I was like, oh no, I can't. That's how i'd say. And even as a series, I still enjoy it, which seems very dated now. A lot of the stuff and they don't they don't have moan. Every character just

moans and complains. I think the only four one is Samantha. Yes, like Miranda, stop moaning. They just complain all the time. So i'd probably say from being so excited about the original Sex and the City film and go at the cinema and really enjoying it and being obsessed with that. I probably would say that, and I think I've avoided Bill and Tech, so I'll leave that where it is in the past. I would send defense of Sex in

the City, the TV show. It's a fantastic show, and it was ahead of its time, which is that it now is dated, but that's because it was. It was very modern. I guess it's the way of the time it was made. It was very like wow, So we all moved to catch up with Sex in the City and said, now Sex in the City seems dated exactly. And I used to enjoy it. Bes in love to Sex and the City's great. Yeah, it was a good show, but yeah, it is quite cringe now when you look

back on it. But still it was, as you say, very ahead of its time. Yeah, we were chasing Sex in the City for a bit. You know. There you go, What is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience you had around seeing it will always make it special to you. Rachel fair Birth, I would say School for Scoundrels, the nineteen sixties version interesting with Terry Thomas Alice to sim and Ian Carmichael, because here we go,

the nan kid is back. I my granddad used to you know, I used to watch a lot of used to record a lot of films off the TV, mainly black and white films, and he recorded School for Scoundrels. And I remember watching it being a very very small child with him, and I remember, this is how much of a nan kid I was a lot of the time. I used to pretend to be ill because I do so I didn't have to go to school, just so I could hang out with my grandparents. And we used

to watch School for Scoundrels. So I would say that is probably probably if the film means to me, your nan kid status is breaking my heart. I know it's sad in it. It's very lovely, very sad, very sad heartbreak. He's so sweet. It's just so sweet your grandpads. Oh god, what is a terrible, terrible link. What's the sexiest film you see? I was get embarrassed about stuff like this.

It's weird because like everyone was assumed because of what the way I do stand up and things to talk about, and you know, I just get really embarrassed about sort of sexy things like I just remember, like you know, in Channel five used to show the sexy films on Friday nights. Yeah, and I remember all the lads at school. It's old Red Shoe Diaries around tonight. Oh, like I remember, I remember Jamie the Lads go with Jamie Chadwick. He in French class on Friday, and he went, yeah, lads

and got his matron gathered round. He went listening lads to the top porn or on Channel five tonight it's called Confessions of a Window Cleaner. So yeah, set the video right, and he was being dead serious. I was like, oh no, this is so embarrassing. So but I don't I remember watching ET and being embarrassed when Elliott kisses that girl. And I've always been quite embarrassed about things

like that. I'll be honest. I mean, it's mad that I'm not more into sexy film because if my dad showed us Paul the Guys when us three, he may as well have shown us last time ago in Paris when it was five, you know what I mean. But I am sort of things that I find quite attracted, Like I'm not a big fan of Star Wars but quite fancy. Darth Vader interesting with his hat on. Yeah like, I just like it, I like his vibe. Yeah. I

also find Patrick Bateman in American Psycho quite attractive. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you're it was really telling a story here. You like it? You like it? Bad guy? I mean you like your true credit. I've all like any character in any thin lights growing up, even like, for example, I used to really love the care Bears when I was a kid. Yeah, but I didn't like the cheerful ones. I like the grumpy one, and you know, sort of I used to love anything I watched. I always liked

the Baddy the best, Like I liked skeletal rather than him. Yeah, I like I always engaged with the Baddy and like the Baddy the best. Or your true crime stuff? Are you like do you find yourself being I think I'm on the side of the criminal in this listenesses never no bus fictional Yeah, fictional bad guys? Yeah right? Interesting? Yeah, Okay, Thatthade is an interesting choice because he's you know, sort of a big, sort of plastic final man. It's just

take he doesn't return the jed. I don't think you'd like what's under the Is he a monster? He's a sort of sad ravaged old man. Oh, he just wants to be loved. Oh my god, you'd love him even more. He's an old man. Oh no, Oh my god, he's a sad old man. That perfect man. I just like the vibe of him. I like the way he struts about and yeah, you know, cool voice. He seems like,

you know, he's in charging it also. Yeah, Gaston from Beauty in the Base, Yes, an No one talks about how Bud dismisses Gaston immediately, doesn't even give him a chout, works out a lot, you know, driven it good with a gun. You know. Look, I'm telling you, you know what, right, she definitely would have had a girl. She might not want to be in a relationship with him. Yeah, but I think I'm spit. You'd have a great weekend. You'd have a lovely weekend. I mean, you'd have to talk

about him quite a lot. You wouldn't get any eggs for brectically, you'd have all the eggs. But but you'd have a you'd have a laugh. You'd have a laugh. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great reboot in the guest And she doesn't even make it to the curst with she sister. She says, yes, the guest done early on. See what happens. That's a good rum com. I want I'd want to say that tame him the beast is easy to try and fucking tame Guess done. He's the one. He's got issues, He's

got deep seated issues. He is toxic masculinity all over. And she reads books I reckond together. That's a rum com. Can you imagine? Oh, what's going to happen? Disney? Are you listening? Thank you? There's a subcategory, of course, troubling bonus worrying. What's a film you found a rousing you weren't sure you should? And that sounds like maybe all films? Yeah, well I think it might be. See that's another weird one.

I don't know. I think again, maybe it's American Psycho, right, Yeah, it's got to be, because I just think he's like the coldness, and I like it's just the you know, when he's getting ready in the morning and he's you know, he looks clean as well. I like that he does look clean and he puts plastic down, he does. Yeah, yeah, his house is clean. He's very clean. That's true. He's very clean, So I think I think it might be that, but don't I don't know if they're not really not

really anything. I mean, I know a lot of people's gateway has been the fox in Robin hood. Yeah, but and I totally got that as a kid, But now as an adult, I'm like, it's a bit of a drip. Actually, I don't he a good guys. It's not for you. Yeah, it just thinks he's too cleol. It's just like, hey, nothing's a problem. I'll do it, like, yeah, all right, it's not good for you. Yeah. Yeah, he's a real virtual signal. Yeah, yea social justice for shout up Robin.

We'll be fine. Yeah, exactly. Oh, don't worry about it. I'm here now, brilliant. Yeah, no, thank you. You need gas. Start in there, kicking, kicking doors and shit, that's what you need. Yeah, get him in there. Also that the cock crawl at the beginning of that that played the yeah whatever it is, loot? Is it a loot? I don't blood enough. He was a big lad. Yeah, it doesn't getting it. Could have got involved. It was huge him. Yeah, he doesn't get the credit. You're right, he's just and

he's a storyteller. You like stories, maybe he's yeah, I prefer what is the film you most relate to? So weird choices, but the shining Because Jack torrens like I feel like him a lot of the time. I just I've got to I've got things to do. You know, even if I go to the middle of nowhere, something will happen that means I can't do the thing that

I need to do. So you know, I'll be in my flat and I'll be like, right, I'm going to write, Oh the door goals, or oh someone's got a fucking parcel that I've got a tech or oh this has happened now. Oh no, now I've got a gig, you know that kind of thing. And I just feel like he goes to the middle of nowhere, he wants to do his writing. His wife's getting on his nerves because she is irritating kids annoying. Yeah, yeah, because the kids annoying. Yeah,

and then he ends up it's like all brilliant. Now I'm haunted as well. It's just it's just a man who had an idea, who wanted to write, and everything got in the way. That's how I feel so real. That was the original title. A brilliant Now I'm haunted. I'm haunted. Fuck my life excellent, don't say I get it. What is objectively the greatest film of all time? And I'm asking you, who doesn't like films? What's objectively the greatest? Well, I can only go off Mike what I think, and

I would say An American World in London. Yes it is, even though it's got an embarrassing sex scene in it. Oh oh what's embarrassing about that sex scene? Oh it's embarrassing. I don't like it because it exists. Yeah in London, I love it, Yeah, I could, you know, I watch it several times a year. Here's something I love. The London Underground, right, I'm a bit obsessed with it. I get quite excited by it and I think it's a feat of engineering. And I never tire of the tube. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And the scene on Tottenham Court Road where that businessman gets eaten murdered, the scene the scene in that it's fun in the cinema where everyone's like, oh you've you know, I'm pissed off he killed me. But there's that couple who are like hello, I think they're really funny. I love it. I just think it's great. Not many people get this answer right, and you you have. That is greatly an excellent answer. It's fucking fund of that film, and it's fucking scary, and it's fucking sexy, and the

end is truly tragic. It's a great film. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah. What is the film you could or have watched the most over and over again? And is it School for scoundra prope School for scoundrels. So, like most young girls, I used to just watch Grease constantly, constantly, constantly, you come home and put that in, watch Grease, watch it again. So I've seen that a lot. But I think the film I probably watched the most and could watch over and over it's Jurassic Park. Yeah, he good, good, I

love it. It's brilliant. Yeah, it's It's probably just one of my favorites. Never get tired of it. I still think the dinosaurs are scary. They still look good, excellent. I can't go into an industrial kitchen without thinking of a losciraptors. There you go, Yes, yes, that's true, always looking which which which carbon am I going to hide in? Yeah? Exactly where yes, very good. Yes, what is we don't know? To be negative? What's the worst film? He ever? So

I've got it. Going back to my dislike of making films about true murder. The recent Ted Bundy film, I thought it was terrible. What was it called extremely wicked? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so that was awful. But even worse than that. There was a maid for TV Ted Bundy film years ago. Because I'll tell you what, I will happily instead of watching a well crafted film that's a classic, I will happily sit there and watch TV movies. I cannot get

enough of them. The shit are the better. But there's one about Ted Bunder and I saw it was on Channel five in the afternoon once and I was watching it and the end of the film, obviously Ted Bundy is being electrocuted, but the executioner has a has a black mask, like a black hood on. They pull this lever and then as he's like frightened, the person takes the hood off and shakes her hair and it's a

beautiful woman. It was just like. But the thing is, I've never I've not tried to find this film since I saw it because I just remember going, oh God, please and I was watching the time. And then every time I relay this to people, I go, as I'm telling it, I go, have I made this up? Sounds like I keep thinking of Yeah, I keep it like a twist, like it's one of his victims or it's

someone anything. So the twist is like, you know, because all of his victims were sort of young, attractive women with long brown hair that was sent to be the kind a woman that intended to kill it. So it was like, oh, look, and it's like his victims are getting their own back, not a ship. That's so ship. Tell me this. You're in comedy, You're very funny. What's

the film that made you laugh the most? Rachel fair Ben Okay, I will have to go back because I think it's quite difficult to for me to laugh at figure out because it's very tragic, isn't it. I find things like general conversation funnier than I find things that are meant to be funny, airplane correct funny, so funny, stupid, funny, so stupid, silly, so funny, Yeah, funnier. But and then so that's probably films made me laugh the most, and that I still will laugh at, even though I know

what's going to happen in it. It's still funny. In fact, how I feel like I want to watch that. I want to watch it now. That's that's that's how much I like it. Well, then again, I find films. This is not the correct answer, But for some reason I find Home Alone Too really funny. But that's only because once I watched it with my friend who was making

up his own storylines to it. So whenever I watch it now, I've got his storyline, which we're quite frankly filter in my head because I watched it with f one Christmas Eve, and I just remember like crying, laughing when he was doing his own sort of drunken commentary on it. So now I just find Home Alone Too just funny for the wrong reason. So that is a film that makes me laugh, so so phasically he's, oh god,

this is awful. So when Kevin's talking to the pinching woman, he said, pretend that they're not talking about whatever it is they're talking about, you know, Christmas and loved ones and things, and pretend they're talking about rimming. And he was just so stupid. I cannot and when it gets to Christmas, will send me a message. You'll say you watching Home alone too this year? Oh yeah, so that makes me laugh for the wrong reasons. For airplanes is definitely,

I think one of the funniest. Rachel Fairburn, You've been an absolute delight. I've loved doing this. However, when Kary Preachad McLean made an enemy and that enemy went looking for her on the podcast but didn't know what she looked like, but knew her voice heard you talking on the Tube platform, I thought confused. The voices thought the whole time they've been listening to your podcast that you were Kerrie and Rachel was the other voice. Anyway, you're

having a chat with someone next to you. They're a fan as well, and you're chatting about Yeah, no I like I think I like Patrick Bateman because he's clean. And this person pushes you in their time. It just right, just as the tube is coming. You're on an out one by the way by Paddington and they push you. You hit the tube, then you get sucked under, then your body gets trampled into bits. What to do, it's a real it's chaos. Anyway, I'm getting the tube myself.

I'm coming down the station and I've got a coffin with me. You know what, I'm like just wondering around, like looking for where we'll see what happens anyway, Oh, I say, is that Rachel forever? And then they go yeah, everyone goes yeah. It's a fucking mess. So between trains because you know, I keep having to jump off the platform. Ye come down picking up bits of you pebbles. I mean, it's awful. I'll be honest, one the one of the worst clean up jobs about to do stuff you in

the coffin. There's more of you than I was expecting because of all the bits and the fucking you know, train tracker to shop up all sorts. Anyway, you're stuffed in this coffin. It's round. It's only enough room in this coffin. Now for me to put one DVD in the side for you to take across to Heaven. In Heaven, it's movie night every night, and one night it's your movie night. What film are you taking to show all the gallaghers in Heaven when it's your movie night? Please

rateel favorite. I've got at to take an American World in London and they will be grateful for it. Yes, what's a choice what's a film? What's a guest? What a life ratefel favorite? Is there anything you would like to tell people to listen to you look out for all killing, no filler and the Gool Guide. Yes, that's it. You can listen to my new podcast, Duel Guide that's

available on all platforms and on Global Player. As I am told to say, right and also I'm on tour in January and all the information you can find it all on Twitter. You know what to do. You're not daft, Rachel, thank you for your time. Thank you, I've really enjoyed yourself. Good day to you. Good day. So that was episode

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