Punkie Johnson - The Resurrection! • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #195

always be grateful for that because I love it. Oh, it sounds like you've got a good mate there, Albert nice One. Every week I'm by a special guest diver. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. But not this week. This week I use my newly acquired shamanic skills and powers to bring a beloved guest back from the dead. And this week is the incredible stand up writer, actor and SNL regular Punky Johnson.

Tickets are selling fast for the big Live Films to be Buried with Live, Live, Live, Live at Hackney Empire on July second. Make sure you get your tickets. Come along. We'll have a right old time. You can get tickets from Plosive dot co dot UK and Hackney Empire dot co dot UK. We'll do the show, we'll do an audience Q and A. You can tell me about the films. I mean, the most of you. It will be very special.

Come along. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward Slashbret Golstein, where you get an extra twenty minutes with Punky Johnson. I'll tell you what in this one. We laugh. There's a secret that is one of the top three secrets we've ever had. On the Patreon, it's very rude. We do a lot of rude chat. We talk about beginnings and endings. We laugh, we cry. It's beautiful. Check it out. You get a video all sorts. Check it out over at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Golstein.

You can watch ted Lasso season one and two on Apple TV Plus, and you can watch Soulmates and Super Bowl on Amazon Prime in most places. So that's all that. I hope everyone as well. Punky Johnson. I fucking love Punky Johnson. Punky Johnson, she's one of my favorites. She blew my head off as a stand up when I first saw her in LA and now she lives in New York. She's a regular on SNL. It was so good to be able to spend time with her again. We recorded this a few nights ago and zoom. It's

a very funny episode. It's very very rude. If you don't like naughty business. I don't really know why you're here, but maybe be careful if you get an avoid that sort of thing. It's there. There's naughty business in this episode. I'm sure. Anyway, she's fucking brilliant. This was so fun. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and ninety five of Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. Hello, and welcome to

Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. It is I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor, a writer, a sketch coat, a stand up superstar, a legend, a person who has moved from LA to New York for a very exciting reason. She is an SNL cast member regular. She is a genius. She is one of the finest comic brains I ever had the pleasure of being with. Please welcome back from the Dead to the show. I can't believe we've got it back. It's the amazing,

it's the brilliant, it's the favorite of everyone. It's packy John's head. Stop it Bunky Panky. Oh, I am blushing the hard Punky Johnson. I have missed you. I'm so excited to see you again. Congrat your late I miss you too. I'm excited to see you big thanks popping you are in New York. I have so many questions for you. Since you last did films to be Buried with. Look, when I first met you, you were my favorite stand up that I saw in La You blew my mind.

Since then, you have become an SNL cast member, moved to New York. Tell me everything I want to know? So many things can I ask you? And if you're bored of talking about these things, you cannot tell me. Firstly, moving to New York, have you moved with your wife? Are you going back and forth with you there? Full time? Haws? That working, So let's just put it out there. Done with the wife. The wife is done with the big news.

That's address that we are active. We are actively in the middle of a divorce that I've been trying to get for the past two years. Actually, congratulations, I hope you're this is okay. Congratulations is a great thing. Okay, good. Yes, I'm so glad you said that, because a lot of people say, oh, I'm sorry. I'm like, nope, it's a good thing to get out of toxic relationships. I just want to put that out there. I am really glad to hear that. Punkke, and I hope it's going all

right these proceedings. You know what it's going, how it's going. It's been a hassle looking for her and getting her to do these papers. But other than that, I don't even care as long as it's in process and I'm healthier, my skin looks better. So so have you felt free? Have you felt free and single for a while? Are you still in the mess of that? So it's been two years since I started the process. The first year I was a home and I mean I cut up.

I was out every night, spending money, drinking. I had just got slow. Yeah, I had left her before I got SNL though, so it's not like I didn't. I didn't even have the audition for ES ANDL at that point. But I got out of there. Then after I left her, I thought it booking stuff. I got SNL, I moved out, I got a new apartment. Like great things started to happen after I left, and um, it's been great. I honestly forgot what the question was because I started rambling ahead.

The question was have you felt and or are you still in the mess of it? Oh? That's what it was, Okay, Yes, So I hold out for a little bit. I wild out because you know, I was with her for a long time and very young. M I was since I mean we were off and on. We were together for twelve years and then we broke up for three years, right, but we was on and off those three years. So I was wilding out, just tab it then. But then

I got married. But I don't know what it feels like to be in a relationship with nobody but her. So um, like I said, I hold out for a little bit. But then I, out of the blue, I met this really gentle soul. And I've always said I'm never getting married again. It was trash da da da da da, and I'm actually thinking love is possible again. So it's been one year now, Wow, and where did

you meet this? I met her in Rhode Island. I was on stage my first time headlining as a comedian, and she just stands up and she's like, I just want to let you know why I came here for you. And I was like, sit your stupid ass down, and you know, we don't like all of that. While we I was like, shut your ass up, you know me, y'all stopped going crazy popping off at the mouth, and then all of a sudden, I don't know what happened, but we had this really interesting, like ten minute talk.

While I was on stage. The audience swamped. There was like no, don't worry about us to her and um, and then afterwards I just thought it was what it was, and I went to my green room and I turned around and she was like right there. She's like, no, what was all that? You was talking back down stage? And I was like, all right, what's you're doing? And security came up, the manager came up and then like punking you. All right, we gotta get this crazy bit out of here. I was like, no, no, no, no,

I want to see what. She took a mask off by this, so now I see she's very pretty, you know. I'm like okay, let's talk. And then, of course I was still married, but she didn't know I was in process of the divorce. But her friends were like, she's married. Get out of there. She's married. And she looked at me and she said, you think you're about to have me in a triangle? You you you think you're about to do that to me? And she like walked out.

She's like, I ain't got time, and she walked out, I mean stormed off, walking out, And I was so mad that she left me, because I'm like, if you would have listened to my set, you dumb bitch, you would have heard what was going on. So I chased after her and I grabbed her and I turned her around and I was like, if you won't cha chattering doing my whole set, you would have known what's been going on in my life. And then it was like a movie. We just she just looked at me like,

oh did you chase me? And we just we just started kissing. Didn't even know each other, and it just it's it's just I've just been at peace ever since that day. Ever since that day, I just been like, she's such a giving person, like I've never been with a giver. I'm not saying my wife was a taker, but she definitely wanted to give her. But but this just this woman is just like she's you know, it's she reminds me of my mother. I think that's what

it is. Wow. Just kind and soft, um blunt when she needs to be, and she can cook her ass offa The first time me, I was on FaceTime, I said, what you're doing? She said, oh, I'm cooking, and she from rolling out and so I was like, girl, you aren't cooking nothing. And she showed me the part she was making smother cabbage. I say, a girl, I know you're not making cabbage. She said yeah, because I thought only people from the South knew how to make cabbage.

And where she from? You from Rhode Island. Rhode Island, all right, small small town. I called Rhode Island the god forsaken town because the sun is never out, is always raining or snowing or dark outside. It's like a lasca. It's like, why is it only bright three months out of yeah? Out here? I got two questions because it's very interesting your story and it is like a movie. Well one, it's a very nice thing to say about your mama space, because I think most people try to

avoid ending up with their parents. But if you're actively I try to be with your mom, that's probably I was wondering if that sounded kind of weird. No, it's no way, It's lovely. As I think most people. I think what happens is from what I read of therapy books, etc. Everyone ends up with their parents. They try not to, they sort of go the opposite way, and then somehow

they end up. Oh fuck, you're just like my mum, even though I thought you were the opposite of my mum, Whereas in your case, it sounds like you want that, so you may as well I skipped a bit where you think they're not and go straight towards it. Well, that's I'm very happy for you. I'm excited to hear this. So that's going on in your love life and in

your work life. You got s andl Now, well, I guess there's everyone wants to know all sorts of things about us, And now I guess the first thing I'd like to know is what was your stand What was your audition? Because I've seen your stand up with some of my favorite stand up, but I would also say it is stand up that in no way can be on the network TV. So I wondered, what your audition was?

It cannot. Yeah, I did a college the other day, and I was just like, well, y'all, I'll learned the day because you're gonna I'm not shrinking and I'm not changing nothing up. Y'all gonna get this real okay? But SNL okay. When I auditioned for SNL, which it was a great season for me because it was the pandemic. Yes, and usually if your audition you have to go to New York, but since it was a pandemic, I had to do everything on videotape, which was a monstrous victory

for me. Because I am very awkward in rom auditions. I would not have I know for a fact, I would not have gotten this job if I had to go there. And second, I was very surprised to get the opportunity to audition because I never thought I would be on network TV ever because of my stand up. So I was like me so off the bad, I just didn't even believe in myself. I was like, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna do these little characters. They ain't gonna like it whatever, and I sent the six

six characters. I think I sent the like Kerry Washington, of course, WHOOPI Goldberg, Mary J. Blige, and like two other things that I made up of something, and I just sent the in. I forgot I senting, and I was like, what if I'm never gonna hit from those people again? And then like I think a month later, they were like, hey, you know you got a callback fast. And then I was like what they say. Yeah, they say you can send in the same audition or you

can do a different audition. I say, oh no, hell no. And then I thought it was like oh no, no, no, they really looking. Then I'm gonna give them something for real. So then I sent the in. I added six more characters to the previous one. So then I sent them twelve characters. Wow, what were they having? Six? Do you remember? I don't remember. It was like this is how black people. It's the stuff I started making up, like this is how black people break up character I think I did

Black people break up place. It was like, um, it was like it started off where I had this piece of paper and my husband came home and I was like, how are you doing, mister pockets? Why do I call you mister pockets? Because I found this in your pockets, That's why. And I was like, I can't take it. Them get out, and then I put like this this crazy dramatic music in the background, and I put my face really into the camera like this. After I told

him to get out. I said, you really gonna leave after I told you to leave, because you know that you're not gonna stay after I told you go, You're not gonna stay and fake sick. You know what, don't try to stay because I told you to stay. And now that you say stay, you try to stay. Get out where you going? Like it was? It was, yeah, it was. It was funny and auditional course, but and then I had all these crazy wigs that and they

kept like they kept coming off. But I was like, you know what, I'm not even gonna try to make them perfect if they're coming off, let them come off if they if I'm doing this, because I felt that it added whatever it added, because you know, I was like at that point, I had nothing to lose, you know, like, now it's a fifty percent chance you're gonna get it or you're not. And I ended up get I did it was so crazy. It was very bizarre. Tell me about if you can, like day one, were you very nervous?

Was it overwhelming? One thing about SNL is they are very comforting, you know when when you go in that build. The one thing that was worth was bad was the COVID situation and we really couldn't make friends last year, and I was kind of really just on my own and I just got thrown in up. You know, I just basically got thrown in the pool and was told to swim. But I'm pretty that was not their intention. It was just it was just COVID. I was nervous, but everybody was so kind and if I needed help,

I got help. And they're not. It's it's a it's a good job to have. It's stressful, very very stressful. You work every single day. Sometimes you work all day. They got days like you always on call, even when you're not there, you're on call, like like for instance, just what I mean by on call, Like Friday. I was off on Friday, which was great. I got the box all day. I was with my trainer all day

watching people spar kind of learning footwork and stuff. And then I was like, you know what I'm gonna go do some comedy tonight. But then something told me don't do it. Something said go home. So I come home. It's out of put some chicken in the oven. I got some asparagus on the stove. I'm cooking. Iota took all my clothes off and button nick and I'm watching grizz In the anime. All of a sudden, my phone

start ringing ten forty five. We gotta get you. We gotta drive and come and pick you up at all at this time. You gotta be on set by eleven fifteen. I'm like, oh lord, well, I guess I gotta take the chicken out the oven and put a fucking bright on. So I get out there, I go to work. As soon as I get to work, they say, you know what, We're gonna do it tomorrow. But that's the But that's why I can't make like people always think I'm giving them to run around, and I'm like, no, I actually

really cannot. Every single time I booked something with somebody else, playing something with somebody, it is a I have to cancel. You're like a doctor. You're a doctor of the sketch comedy, right, So that's why I'm just like, you know what, let's play I'm always telling people, let's play it by ear. Monday is a good day because Monday we work from home. Everything's on zoom on Mondays, right, so Monday is a

good day. And what how is the Because you know, I work with Jason Sudeikis says, you know, he was on it for ten years. I believe in and I've spoken to quite a few people have done SNL and it sounds like it must be very hard. I guess the thing I'm curious about is like managing your own ego in terms of every week you cannot be on it. You can be on it next week, you can not

be on it the week after that. So there's no It's a constant roller coaster of you're, you're, you're, you're big, You're not big, you're you know, and how do you cope with that? How do you cope with that part of it? Meditation? Yeah, is it? I have never meditated in my life. I I've always been Christian, I've always prayed, but this job has driven me into going back to therapy and some meditation. It's it's really really like, it's

the great thing about it is. It's nothing personal. It's just not what it is, and it it messes with your heart, you know, like and I went my heart on my sleeve. But good thing I got thick skin because my mother don't play all of that foolishness. So I meditate every day, at least fifteen minutes a day. I say, I say my little mantra, I take deep, very very deep breadths, and and I just cope. And it has zended me out this season. You know, of course,

I can't tell you that I'm numb. I can't say that I do still feel but I feel it better now now I'm at first I'll be like, man, what am I doing here? So now I'm kind of just like you know, it is what it is. You know, I got paid. I'm on a really great show, and this is a great problem when I have, I got my bills paid, I have a great fan. Like now I'm looking at the good things more and complaining less. And it's a it's a hell of a sort of

a training ground for everything as well. Right, You're constantly you're constantly creating, constantly writing yes, yes, and what about the actual performing it? When like last last week, I'm glad I'm seeing you this week's last week you had a banging sketch and then and and was it Did you get nervous when you're doing it or is it just you know, sometimes it really really depends. But for the most part, like when I get on a comedy stage like you you know how it is like I'm very,

very nervous before they comment to go on stage. But once I'm up there, I'm up there and I just feel like I'm home because this is what I was going to do. Yeah, you know, I'm not too much of a character actor, but if they asked me to do something, I'm pretty sure that I'm capable of doing it. But as of right now, I just pride myself on having really good comedic timing as to you know why I think I'm still there because I do have the potential to be a character actor. I just don't know

how to get the things in my head out right. Yeah, but they but they're helping me to do it, so that's good. I relate to this, and I've I've started to think it's different as in a different point is when I they stand up, I think I'm always nervous, always every time just before it. It can be depends on sort of the size of the gig. It might be five minutes before going on, it might be half a day, could be a week, depends I think the gigging.

But once I'm on stage and I've taken the mic, I'm fine always pretty much, And I always think about it and I'm like, why do I go through that? Why does my body sort of not remember You're going to be fine what you're nervous about. But I've started to think that it's not necessarily nerves, that it's like adrenaline, that it's your body going you need this bit because this is the thing that's then going to make you

good once you're there. Do you think that never thought about it that way, But now that you say it, I'm like, I can agree. I can agreethe that I because every time I have that feeling, I just I sit there and shake it off. I'm like, I'm like, this is I'm like this what you here for? This? What you here for? Baby? You know you gotta talk to yourself. Come on now, come on, because because guess what you're going out there recalls Yes, you can stop the show. So let's go You're gonna do it anyway,

to fucking do it. This is this is my new thing. You're gonna do it anyway. Why waste the time where you worry about should I be doing it? You're fucking doing it. You know you're gonna do it. Okay, stop the show, the carousel, I'll never stop turning. Let's go show you wanted the show. It's fucking happened. Oh yeah, yeah, I like you. So I have decided to bring you back to life. You have been resurrected. But what time in your life would you like to be brought back

to the present or the past? Is there something you regret you would like to fix? Where would you like to come back to? Punky Johnson, please say now, present, now, right now? Love it right now. You wouldn't change anything in history. You wouldn't fix COVID. You just come back to Oh I got this job because of COVID. I love COVID. N Okay, come back to nothing. That's a lovely, lovely positive thing. Now, when you've been brought back to life, everyone is very happy to see you. They still want

to talk about your life through films. It's not that much different from being dead. In a way. But you're alive again. So that's good, isn't it. Basically anyway, the first thing, the first thing they ask you, is the people excited to see you include it. I'm very excited you're back. What was the last film you saw? Punky Johnson and the reason why I'm so happy to do this, And I needed it to be on Monday because every Sunday I laid out on the phone and watch movies

with my with my girls. So we watched movies to We're so Weird and We're weird, And we watched three movies yesterday and the last one we watched was Any Given Sunday with l l Alp Puccino Jennie Foxx. Yep, yep, I love Any Giving Sunday doesn't hold up. I actually haven't seen it in years, but I really loved it back in the day. That's why I watched it, because I haven't seen it since probably the day it came out.

And when I saw it was on Netflix. After we watched her two cute little movies, I said, can we watch a football movie? Well movie? We watched Monster in Law and actually, I do really like this other movie. I'm about to say, it's actually on the list because I really really like this movie. But something's gotta give. We watched that one too. It's Monst's with Jane Funding and Wanda Sykes. Yes, wow, I mean it's the heck of a cast. Is it good? Oh my god? You

know mystin law man, Jane Fonder is hilarious. She she just everything she do, all her choices she made in that I was just like, I loved this lady. I loved this lady. And then Wanda Sykes come in with her stupid side side comments and remarks and just holding up the crazy weird old my, Oh my god, it was It's just so funny. And then of course, you know, Jennifer Lopass is one of the prettiest women I've ever put laid my eyes on. I love her. I think

she's so sexy. Yes, yes, and then punk, Oh my god, man, I don't know. We we we will fight Ben together, Yes, then we were battle or maybe we can talk to her and see where her head is on polygamy. Yeah, maybe we can. I'm very happy with that arrangement actually, And also hearing that you've been training in boxing, I don't want to fight you, I will see live in Harmony. In Harmony, what's a life? What's a life? That'll be great? He was the other one, it's what's the other film?

The other one is something I actually have on the list because if I can't lie, it's one of my favorite movies. Is um, Something's Gotta Give? Oh love it? And you know, come on, I mean it's it's Jack Nicholson, you know, playing not the bad guy, you know, and Dan Keaton doing a very good crying montage. So hang on any giving Sunday holds up. I forgot how kind of boring and again even Sunday and I felt so

bad to put my girl through that. But you know how it is like we started it, we gotta finish it. I can't be the person fighting for this movie. And then I'm like, you know what, So I had to even force myself to watch it. It was just, you know, it's it's like why did I pick this? I was like, this is why I haven't seen it since it came out. You know, Punky Johnson, who do you think should play you in the film of your life? That was very interesting.

I was like, I'm like I was thinking and thinking and thinking and then I was like, you know what, just give the narcissistic answer me. Okay, so you're playing yourself, but what if someone else is written it and they've changed stuff. You're like, hey, this isn't how it happened, but you have to play it like you signed on. You you have no creative control in this film. It's the Punky Johnson film. You have no creative control in it. But you are playing Punky Johnson. You know. I think

I do a good job. And I know this might sound really really crazy because she's older. She's like maybe about fifteen years older than me. Freaking Taraji p Henson could probably jumping man, Taraji. Cant you teutorizeing what you want? She gonna give it to you. Stat Yeah, I actually think that's a really really good choice. Oh yeah, you put some dry lights in her head and let her and give her the script. Just let her go. You just let her do whatever she do. Should we make

this film? I think that's a that's a fucking film. I would watch the Punky Johnson starting. Oh yeah, I could play it a little. She could play the older me. I really like that, really good answer. What Punky Johnson is the most romantic film you've ever seen. Now, we know your idea of romance is being shattered at in the club by someone reminds you of your mom, So what is the most So I mentioned this earlier, but I think it's Something's got to give, which I love

it because it just comes full circle. And I think everybody can relate to that movie, whether you're young or whether you're old, and everyone understands, well, I'm not gonna say everyone. I can't see for everybody, but I would say for the most part, people understand what the breakup is and what it feels like to not know if you're gonna ever love again. And then on Jack Nicholson's side,

is he never was in love with anybody. I don't know if he was afraid, like you know, you can just tell that he was just afraid to love or be loved, like he was struggling with his own inner situation and what he was sixty three years old and he finally fell in love for the first time, and I'm just like, immediately, at some part it was tragic, you know, because he couldn't be loved or allowed himself to be loved. But then what I loved about it was.

They allowed him to He went through his past to understand why he was the way he was and why he act the way he did. And that's when he was like, hey, I can love so. I love the fact that they made him do his homework on himself to hold himself accountable for the person that he was, and he and I what I love love. He went got his bitch, He went to Paris. He said, always sharing Paris. Oh okay, all right, I'm gonna get him, that's right, and set at the dinner table with her name,

giving her to Miyes the puppet dog eyes come. You know, that's balls right there, that's big paid for the meal. I'm just like, man, look it was. It was the most romantic, most funny gangster movie about love, but at the most part, for the most part, I mean, it just resonates with me because you can find love even after twenty years, because I was what my wife the twenty years. You can stick there. There is somebody out there if you just you know that they got somebody

out there and we can all be loved. We can do it. Can I ask you a very personal question, if you if this is two personal whatever we can cut it. But breaking up with someone you've been for twenty years, like, was it must have been so? Like?

Are there still so many aspects of your life that in twenty terms of friends, in terms of stuff like that, or is it the hardest thing, the hardest thing I ever had to do walking away from that situation, Understanding that you're in something that is not beneficial to your mental health, your well being or your spirit. Understanding that and come into the conclusion that it's not going to get better, that is also hard. But but literally walking out of the door, it's the hardest part. It's the

hardest part. Oh my god. I cried and I cried, and I was just having a self pity party for such a long time. And but I can tell you want you out the dough? Yeah, you know. Then then you get to decide to start here. It's a choice to sit in and just and drown in this wave of defeat, or you can say, you know what, Nope, I'm about to start healing and I'm about to do the work. How long do you think the drowning pop

I was? The crazy thing is I was drowning inside of my marriage, lying to people, making them think that it was okay lying to my parents because I didn't want them to worry about me. Just I was just a lying and I just I was just drowning and I felt hookey and ridiculous, and don't get it twisted. I loved her, but we was just going through stuff that was way it was just past where we can could fix. And I was just like, no, I got

too much to live for. I got too many things that I want to do, and if I stay here, I'm not gonna be able to do them. I'm very happy for you. Yeah, but the only thing I'm sad about is she had the dogs, and the dogs with my heart. Those were my kids, man, and and I'm never gonna see him again. But really, I get to start a new family. I get to get more dogs. And one thing about her, she was a she was she was I'm not gonna call her a shitty wife, but she was a shitty wife. But she was a

great dog mom. So I'm and I'm at least at peace with that. Okay, Yeah, that's amazing. That's such a big deal. I mean amazing. Congratulations. Yeah, I'm so I am happy as he Yeah out, and I don't have no residual feelings. The baggage is going amazing, amazing, Punky Johnson, Funky Johnson. What is the best film you ever saw that you never want to see again? The wrong missy, Oh that's what David Spade. Yeah, yeah, I loved it. It was hilarious, but I don't need to see it again.

That's really fair. This is the first covered the answer I've add to that question. I don't need to it no more. But it was, but it was hilarious, and I do recommend and seeing it at least exactly one time. What is the best action film you've ever seen? Do you like an action film? So, look, my favorite action is Kung Fu My look, I love hip Man. Ip Man is the shit. You get action and you get to be educated on Japanese and Chinese culture at the same time. Man, I think it's wing chung. So I'm

gonna box for another year. That'll be two years boxing, and then afterward I'm gonna incorporate wing chung. Yeah, I'm gonna do both of them. I've always wanted to learn wing Chung as soon as I saw ip Man, which was I don't know, maybe ten years ago. Maybe it could have been less. I don't know. But as soon as I saw that, I'm like, well, I'm gonna learn this. I'm gonna learn it. And are you learning it? Are you actually gonna fight or you're just learning it? I'm

not gonna I don't you know what. I can't call it. I don't know, but I do want to fight in boxing. I do want to. I'm almost to the level of sparring right now. I think my trainer said, like, in the next month or two, I'll be able to start sparring with people. Wow. Yeah, I'm getting up there. I'm getting strong. Okay, you bloody be careful place. Thank you. I'm getting strong and it's good for my knees. You know, we getting old. We need to stay active. Yeah, you

got to look after that face. I'm not having that face. What all the films, of all the films if you had to, which film do you think you could have made? And why? Oh man, let me tell y'all. Oh you got it, set it off, Set it all. Jada Pink and Queen Latifa, Vivica Fox um um. I forgot the other one name and no disrespect, but I did forget the name. But man, what that's my type of move. Be right there, we're gonna we're gonna get together. We're

gonna rob the bank because the government ain't shit. Y'all gonna kill my brother. Y'all gonna make me get fired from my job because I knew this man, I didn't help him brought this bank. Then you gonna kill my home girls little brother who had a scholarship even though his ass said he wasn't going to um going to college no more. After Jada Pinkin had done gave her body to that man for that money that can sell a dealership man, she took the hardest bath I ever

saw on TV. She was really getting that man off of her. And y'all gonna do all of that and and and nobody's held accountable for that, really, or we're gonna show y'all. And then Black Underwood he come in, he getting his bank case and he don't even know it that that's gonna show you. They're gonna show you, Bob. When Chris Brown said these holds ain't laul, you know, he was talking about Jada Pinkin and what she did.

The Black Underwood in that movie. Ain't gonna gonna rob that man Banks, y'all is your sort of this is how this is my this? Oh? Yeah yo? If they do a set it Off too, I hope they don't do a set of remake. You cannot remake that movie. It is a classic. Leave it alone. But if they try to do something like it, like I Set It Off Part two or something like that, if I'm not in it, I'm gonna like this world. Don't fight it. Yeah,

well maybe you can be. The reason you can't be in the Punky Johnson biopic is because you're doing to set it off too? Or would you do say it Off TV show? Yes? Ade Okay, it's good to know. I make a note. Yes, Adell. What film have you pretended to like to impress people? Man, look not I pretended to watch it. I didn't even watch it. She she liked this movie called The New York Minute. It's with I don't like movies like that. I'm just like

they sold my girl by the way. She you know, like we are week, we come from the hood, so to like movies like these, it really I really be like we already like something's gotta give. But New York Minute, that's one step teeth I can see that Yall minute. Oh man, She's like, you watch it, and I'm like, whole time, I was on my whole time, I was on my eyepad watching something else. Well even it's the premise of New York Minute that they're twins and they're

busy or something. What's the but I didn't pay a tent look. You know how when the movie first thought on Netflix, they give you like a little um, like a little yeah, not even a trailer, the what you call I'm having a brain for They go, what synopsis or something? They give like this the through line. They give you the through line. I didn't even read it. I didn't even read the through line. I was like,

for me, I'm like, I ain't watching this. I mean, eventually she's gonna say, because every month or every other month, she's like, tell me something you've never told me before, you know, you know, all those stupid relationship questions, and eventually she's gonna ask me something like that, and I'm gonna say, I didn't watch that fucking movie. I still don't really know what a New York Minute is. What film have you never seen that you think it's mad?

You've never seen it? Honestly, blow with Johnny Deal. That is mad. What's the film you love that you don't expect anyone else to like? Sometimes I'm even embarrassed to see this. I love love all media movies. Oh listen, Punky Johnson, that is such a good answer, and please elaborate on all your reasons and working out too. I don't, my dear, I don't know. It just be is they're just so trashy and funny and you can always predict what's gonna happen next, and I just think it's I

don't know, you know. And then pairing that to the rumors that I hear about Tyler Perry, about how he just shoot scenes one time and then you go, he'd be like, I went out top of the ship booploop, all right, cool, And I'm just like and when you watch the movies, you can see he was like this man only had a New York minute to fill this. But they really forgive me. I haven't seen the media films,

but I do know. The things I know about them is one everyone thinks they're rubbish, but two they're incredibly successful, right, They're massive, massively popular and successful. Even though everyone yes, of course your favorite I think it is. My favorite part is Medea. And I think just growing up in a black community, we always had a big mama and

madea remind us all a big mama, our grandparents. They were very very blunt about things you're not about to be coming up and here crying saying all these things that we never understood, don't come up in him smeller like outside, got my house, smeller like outside, but being here before the street lights come on. They got some cold drinks in there, but they're hot like grandparents, big mama say some crazy shit. But the point is she always on point with what everything. She's sick, and I

think it just reminded all of us. She just reminds me of the things that my grandmother would say, right yeah, And that's why I watch it. And violent, you know. I love when she's bringing the violence in. You know, Pete, you know, piece be still. I got my piece right here. You know. Do you have a favorite madea film franchise? I would think probably Diary of a Mad Black Woman was probably my favorite. Yeah. Yeah, Shamara Moore come up in there with that horrible bread and with I love

Charles in the hot tub about to die. He just looking he looking like and you know, like, I'm a relationship person. So it was about getting out of It was about getting over a relationship. That woman was going through a divorce, so very painful divorce. She didn't understand why he husband didn't love her anymore. She did every

single thing from that man. It was about her starting over from the bottom and learning how to be an adult all by herself again, be a woman all by herself again, taking that that baggage, taking that bitterness out of her mouth. She had to start from scratch, no money, like, she was humbled living in you know, going back to being poor like chet you a job like. She literally had to start from scratch, and in the end she

became happy. And that's the thing. It's okay. We I am not afraid to start from scratch anymore, you know what I'm saying. But that's because I had to start from scratch. But before that, I was afraid to start from scratch. Yeah, I mean I understand you, I understand, and I think that happens a lot. It's everything is fear right. As soon as you actually experience the thing you're scared of, you it's always like, oh well, this is fine. Everything's fine. It's all fear, you know of it. Yeah.

And it's all comfort too, you know, you know, you know, you don't, you know. Once we get comfortable, things don't change. Things don't change till we get uncomfortable. Yeah. And that sucks for me because I am a lazy I am lazy and I am comfortable. I hate when I have to adjust. It makes me sick. But it's also it's helpful because it's growth, you know. So yeah, yeah, I mean you absolutely completely seldom a dear films. So well, Dad, when you say don't expect people's like them, I'm like,

I'm being surprised they don't. It's so fucking brilliant. What what is the film? Now? Maybe you've even done this recently. What is the film you would show a lover as a test to see if you should be together. Is there any film that if your lady didn't like, you'd be like, fuck, you're out? Please tell me. The one that I chose was Fun with Dick and Jane, because if you're not about to sit through the mud with me, if we can't watch this movie and be like would

you do that? No, we out because let's go. We we got to rob. We got if we got to rob people, we got to sell it. If I need to know you in it, and that is the film because they lost everything. Yes, you like a rubbery, a bank rubbery. If we gotta do it, we gotta do it. Let's go. It ain't my fault because I feel like this, like I feel like most of the for the most part, we're all good people. That's how I feel. That's how I choose to view the world. We all good people.

So if we are here minding our business, doing our jobs, take care of our family, and the world just up and fucks you. That ain't fair, That's not fair. I'm in this world. I'm doing exactly what the government told me too. I'm not cheating, I'm not steal and I'm not doing nothing. And then you want to take everything from me and I did nothing wrong. Fuck that. We're robbing this bank. You're robbing this bank with me, bitch, you better say yeah, that's all this if we out

What did she say, Oh she died, baby girls. Yes, she sounded like it. I'm really pleased to hear that. I can realize baby girl is down. What is the film that made you the most uncomfortable. So the way I can answer this question is, honestly, I don't really get too uncomfortable with things because I'm an artist and I have a really weird mind. So whatever happens, I'm like, Okay, great,

this is art, right, right? Great. What makes me uncomfortable still to this day is watching movies that have sex scenes in them. If my parents are in there film, I'd be like, oh my god, I cannot still me and my parents. I did not If I know they have sex in it, I'm not gonna watch it with them. But if I don't know, in a scene just happens, I'm just like, oh god, we watched that. What is that movie? They'd go on it. I'm catching another brain for We watched the movie with that old time singer.

It's on Hulu, Billy Holliday. I think it is Oh yeah, the People day or Day right. We watched that, Okay ball they had a sex scene. I was like, okay, okay, that wasn't bad. That wasn't bad. Then they had another one. I was like, oh, I didn't think they were gonna have this. Then they had another sex scene where it was very intimate because Billy was used to just have

sleeping with men and that didn't care about her. And then this one man was just doing her and then he just he was like, I don't want to, you know, violently, do you anymore? I'm gonna make it up to you. I was just like, oh my god, I just I just fake sleep. I was just acting like I was sleeping. I just can't. I can't. I'm just it's like, I can't believe I'm watching this. Parents, you will just starting

to silence. I was shocked at all the sex. Yeah, you know, yeah, and it was like violent, you know, like one thing, one man like slapped and grabbed it was just running her in the wall. I was like, oh my god. Meanwhile, if I watched that with my girlfriend, she's like, I want you to do that to me. I'm like, oh lord, oh please, my parents are right here. I can't. I can't. But that's what I can't do that anymore. That's a great answer, I mean, a terrible

segue into the next question. Though. If you could show a child one film, what would it be Scarface? Let's go that's right, that's right. I want I think every child should see it. How old is the child zero to ten. I don't think zero to ten should be watching I don't think zero twelve should watch that movie. But if I had to pick a movie, it'll be that one because you believe it everything you need to know.

It's a classic. Star Face is a classic. It will be my pleasure to show it to a kid with their with their parents' permission, of course, and you know, and you get to see the ride. But you know, look, overall, yes, it was about a lot of yayoe in that movie, okay, But overall it shows you how you could come from Columbia and be a king. It shows you how you can how the grind starts. And a lot of kids don't understand that ship. These days, a lot of kids

just want to damn spoon in their mouth. They just want things given to them right now. And it's like, no, bitch, you got to go out there and work like the rest of us did earn it. So that movie, to me shows you how to earn it. Hustle, be a man of your word. This is how you get the money, This is how you get the power, This is how you get the bitches. But you can do that without selling drugs. But it also shows Ultimately, if you do sell drugs to get deep in this game, you're dead. Yeah,

you will eventually got to do. Yeah, but you will die in quite a sort of ethic, pretty cool way. There's also that it'll look at least it will look cool. Yeah. Funky John said, what a bloody hero you are. I really really like you a lot. Now you've been wonderful, as wonderful as you were when I killed you. I'm so glad that I brought you back to life. In fact, i'm so glad you've done so well. I'm going to let you live. Yeah. But having said that, that doesn't

mean I won't kill you in the future. So what I need to know is there's a lawyer here and he wants to know what film will you be leaving in your will just in case you are killed by me in the future. All right. Number one off top Sister Act, because Sister Act is just what it is, point period. I should need no explanation on that. And number two, believe it or not, I love Sandra Bullock and I love The blind Side. I do not believe it.

That is a real twist. The blind Side. I just think it's so many it's just I just love it because it's black and its white people. It's just so much racism going on in discrimination, and just it shows you that that's not happening everywhere. Not everybody like that. Black people could take in white people. White people could take in black people, and the same with Asians and Mexicans and Latinas and everybody else. We that It just shows me that we could be one. Damn it. They

took in this big black man and gave them a home. Dude, Yeah, get sent them to college. Man gave us through the future. Didn't notice man from Adam and he was he wasn't even playing ball. I could see if he was playing ball already. Yeah. They you know, they spotted them out and took him and did it for that reason. They simply did it to care for another human being. The rest of it is the universe and guide repaying them for doing something great. So and I want to do

that one day. You know, I was telling my girl, I'm like, yo, I want to save a kid. I want to adopt. I want to put a kid in a good home. Yeah, that's a nice I did. Do you have a timeline for that? Oh? We already talking to men we we we were about to start. We're about to have a baby, like next year around this time for her to be pregnant. You know, I'm not having no damn baby's Was there any discussion between the Tavy as he was going to Corn wants She's great,

She wants to She's a family oriented woman. She has twenty two nieces and nephews. Her family is huge. She she has a solid family foundation. One of the things I love about her. So you're looking, you're looking for men, as in, you're gonna use a man that you know, Yeah, because we I talked to a lot of my gay friends about babies and they do like the artificial insemination and stuff, which is fine. But I want my child to know they're dead. I want a man in their life.

I want them to know what it feels like to have a father. I want to give them a sense of simplicity and normacy, even though I still feel like I'm normal, but the world doesn't. So I'm not. I'm not that type of dike to be like no, no, no, no men, no, let this baby have a father, right and and I'm gonna tell her that, look, you ain't you know, I'm not gonna put your child support. But when this when I tell you, come hit this little motherfucker,

come get them. So you're you're so you're like looking at friends of yours, right, You're looking at people you know, yeah, like yeah, yeah, And of course it's gone. You know, the business side is gonna get a little technical and you know, but I would love for even him to get married and have a fact like we gotta make sure his girl not tripping about it. And even if he did have a baby with another woman, I'm like, here, go go be with your other family. You know, more

people are better than no people, period. I want to marry you. Let's have all the support, man, let's do it. We're gonna I'm gonna have to come up with a third way of doing this podcast so that I can hear we can hear the rest of this. In a year and a half, I would know how they're still panned out. And if I'm not doing the podcast, I just want you to tell me. I'm just going to check in always, always check in always, Punky, Johnathon, You're you're just one of the greats, and I really love

you and thank you for doing this again. I appreciate it, is there anything you would like to tell people to look out for or to watch or to listen to. I suppose that said, yeah, support your girl on that's now. Um. I just booked like a nice role on this movie called Bottoms. I don't know when that's coming out, but I'm going to New Orleans to film it next week. I got two really dope solid scenes in it. We

stay with your family. I told him that I could because you know me, I'm like, yo, y'all could stay up on this budget. They're like, no, no, it comes to the hotel. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, Like the whole my whole goal now is to excuse me. I'm so sorry about that. That was true. And my whole goal is to now, you know, focus on keeping my job at S and L and um finding work for the summer, because you don't get paid in the summer. You got to you got to go out there and hustle. Yeah,

every summer. How much standing up put you managing today while you're that No much where it in New York? Oh none, zero. There's no time. There's no time. And like what happened to me Friday? Like I told y'all if I was to if I was in if I was somewhere like in Hall, I'm doing comedy, I would have got true. They were like, bitch, didn't we tell you you're on call? Why are you all the way? And halem, you need to start up. But in the summertime,

I'm planning on standing in New York. Um, I plan on getting into the top shape, boxing five days a week and eating good. And then the weekends like I would leave Friday morning, get back Sunday night from doing calmedy and whatever city great. Uh well, yeah, everyone's got to come and see you. Punky Johnson. God bless you. Thank you for doing this. Have a lovely life. God bless you too. It was my complete pleasure. It was

It's always an honor in your presence. Even though we threw the phone, I still feel you and um, I love you buddy anytime. Okay. Oh and in congratulations to you for everything, because I have a freaking friend that hasn't any bitch. Yea, yes, yes, okay, yes, thank you do amazing. All right, I'm going to stop the recording and then I ask you loads of your questions. Okay, right, thank you. You get So that was episode one hundred

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have a think about the future, shall we. And I hope you're all well. Sending you all love in the meantime, have a wonderful week, and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each others acts acts as