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Paul Walter Hauser • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #226

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LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With!

Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the brilliant actor and comic PAUL WALTER HAUSER!


A truly delightful catchup with Paul and Brett, as the two go into the main matter at hand while delving into some bountiful tangents. You might have come into contact with Paul's excellent work through his roles in Richard Jewell, Black Bird, I Tonya or Cruella, but if not you're in for some perfect introductions here and will certainly want to go back over some film watching... A fascinating insight into the person behind the roles, who it turns out is a goddamn joy. Have fun!

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Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, a director, a leafblower, and I love film. As Robert Tierre said, knowledge is power, is time, is money, is popcorn is movies. It's heartache is love. It feels good now is AMC Cinemas. Yeah. Every week I'm a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant

the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even Cred Plambles. But this week it is the brilliant and amazing and wonderful actor Paul walter Houser. Get over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get next to twenty minutes of chat, laughs, secrets, We talked, beginnings and endings. There's all sorts of stuff there with Paul. You can get the whole episode uncut and ad free

and as a video. Check it out over at Patreon dot com Forward slash bread golste So Paul Walter Houser. He is a brilliant actor. You know him from Richard Jewell. You know him from one of my all time favorite shows, I think you should leave. You know him from Cruella. And you know him from The Brilliant Blackbird, which is on Apple TV, which he's in with Taron Edgerton's fucking brilliant. They're all going to win Emmys. It's amazing. He's fantastic.

I've met him very recently. Turns out he's fucking funny as well. What a treat. So I'm very excited to record this with him. We did it over zoom lovely time. I think you're gonna love it. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and twenty six of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is I Fret Goldstein, and I am joined today by an award winning actor, a writer, a skeetco a stand up a film star, a TV star, a man with such

range he can play anything anywhere at any time. He's a myth, he's a legend, and he's a great and he's here with a bowl of cereal. Please welcome to this show, your favorite and mine. I can't believe he's here. He's here right now. He's about to pout the milker his cereal. It's Pa war Dazzer. What a generous This is a giant ball of cereal. That's huge. I couldn't work out if it was visually looked bigger than it is because it's near to me. No, it's it's the

size of a toddler's Torso thank you for having me. Man, this is so fun. I love I love movies. The few times I've met you, I love talking to you, so this is very easy for me. Movies in you. I'm very excited to talk with you more. We met a couple of times. You're right bloody laugh you the thing that I just found out which I didn't know about you, and now it's all I want to talk about. That we can talk about what a series bringing next to you. How is you do stand up? Or you

did stand up? On your wikipedias that started stand up at sixteen? Tell me everything. I started doing stand up comedy at sixteen, and I would say about three to four years ago, I kind of let it go. I really, I really stopped doing it about four years ago, and I just never broke in. I just kept doing bringer shows where you got to bring all these people. And by the way, I have a ton of friends, and my film credits would also help me get film or

TV credits would help me get some people there. But like nobody ever invited me to like be on a showcase where I get ten minutes with five other highly respected comics like that just never happened. So I kind of stopped doing it. But I love doing it when I did do it, and I kind of went from I think the first seven years it was me trying to sound like somebody else, and then like eight or nine years in, I really hit a stride of like

this is who I actually am. I'm able to talk to people the way I would with my friends, and yeah, and that was really fun. You know, I did the comedy Store. Uh, what's the place in Santa Monica. My brain is fried from years of smoking weed. Um, but I you know, I oh the cafe. For most of the cafe, the comedy store, meltdown comics, Like there were places in LA that I would frequent and hit. But

I feel like a place with the Comedy Store. You kind of have to like be their slave for seven to ten years to like become one of them, which I wasn't really willing to do. You know, if I said to you, I'm doing a gig coming day ten minutes, would you cool? Now? You'll kind of a bit more. Here's my hot tank on you. You'll sow tip if we had to put you in Monkareat. I think most people now you is a Vice series, very gifted, talented actor.

He does very serious dramas. But I met you in two seconds and I was at least fucking funny, And who say, You're in my favorite comedy show all time. I think you should leave. And I think that funny you've ever had. I'm obsessed with Tim Robinson. I think he's so funny when I when I met him though that even when I worked with them, he was so kind of withdrawn and shy, and I think it was genuine.

I don't think it was anything bad. I think he kind of seems to save his crazy either for performing, writing, or maybe his close personal relationships. But I just like meeting meeting and working with Tim for me was like how a dramatic actor might feel about getting to work with like ang Lee, Yeah, yeah, it was, it was. It was a big deal for me. Man, it's one of the best catches. You went, that's a fucking phenomenal

say the best, the best. Anytime I'm depressed, Like, yeah, I was having a really bad day doing press, which is a first world sent tens if I've ever heard one. But I was having an emotional sort of broken roller coaster moment, and I just stopped in the middle of the hair and makeup stuff and I go, I just I need a minute. I just have to watch this. And I've planned a sketch from I think you should leave.

I did the Detective crash More trailer and then him talking at the junket thing, and like immediately, I don't know if it was zero to sixty, but like I went from zero to forty within five minutes of watching Tim Robinson. You know, it's a wonderful. It's really really wonderful. Little Buff Boys is maybe my favorite thing of all time. I can't get over a Little Buff Boys. I don't know him. No, don't pick him, you can't wait it,

don't pick him anyway. The point is this so when you did Black Bed, which is an excellent show, and you did it with the excellent tarrent Edgerton, and you're both excellent together. So my sort of I genuinely would be curious, Tony, I'm assuming that's a very you're playing a very intense some things we haven't seen it. It It essentially a possible pedophile serial killer. And yeah, it's not

the nice fun. It's very very intense. You have lots of very brilliant, intense conversations with each other, and you seem fun. He seems fun in real life. Did you have fun or were you very like like between takes so you laughing and you're messing around, or was it very like focused and moody like what was it actually like to make? It depended on the day man, As

you well know, some days are lighter than others. You're an actor, so it's like if one of us had a monologue or we're just say something particularly gruesome, we will kind of keep our distance and just making about the work and right not go method where it's like I can't talk to anybody, I don't give me the cheese sandwich. Like. It wasn't like that, it was it

was just us being withdrawn into into focus. But I would say out of every if there are five shootings in a week, I would say three of them we're spent cracking jokes or taking selfies or talking about movies, versus the other two where we were a little more focused in. By the way, tarn is really funny, and he's got kind of a smart wit where mine can be a bit buffoonish. He's got a smart wit, and he's a great singer. And you know, we really had a lot of fun, especially when we're off off camera.

What was it like with the other prisoners? You're over there all the time with you? Did you overcome one big gang? Or did he never spats? Did they have a prisoners? I always talk to the background actors. I never make them feel less than I'm always thinking selfies. One guy I got his addressed and sent his kids a Cobra Kai picture and autograph. Like I try to crack a few jokes and chat with them and ask them what else have you been doing? Have you ever

done theater? All right? Have you ever got a speaking part? But I also don't over engage, because sometimes if you over engage, then they're like I'm gonna send you a script I wrote, and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm gonna fake COVID and stars and keep you away from me. And that's not because I hate on them. It's because, dude, life is short. Time is valuable, and I can't even get my own ship made when I have like famous

people attached to my movies and TV stuff. So if I can't get mine made, I'm probably not gonna get Ricky from New Orleans who did five Days on you know, fucking Blackbird. Do you have stuff you've written? I've written twenty one features since I was sixteen years old. I've written six original five or six original TV pilots, and I've written probably twenty five thirty sketches. And how many of these have been made? That is a stunny hit. Yeah, I mean it sucks, but also like I'm in it

for the long haul. At this point, I'm not gonna quit my job with six children, you know what I mean, Like, I'm just gonna keep fucking going. I also just love it. I love writing, and I feel like some damn gonna wake up and God's just gonna throw a crazy blessing in my lap and it'll all be worse it in some really cool way. The thing is, at some point one thing you do will get made, and then the

people will be like, have you got anything else? And you'll come in with the fucking truck for the scripts and guy, oh, I've got fucking something else, you fucking light coming shits. Well here's here's the thing too, is like some of them are terrible because I wrote them when I was, you know, twenty twenty two years old.

But but I would say reason reasonably, there's probably one pilot and two or three features that are really good that are just kind of like waiting for someone to give a damn or give a budget, which is giving a damn. I became buddies with Mark Duplas. He and I are talking trying to do like a really low budget thing together that we can just get made with friends, and like everybody who participates does it for scale and then they get like five percent back end and we

all share in the profit, you know, right. I like that. Ooh, I forgotten to tell you something that I should have probably said at the top. You've died. You're dead. You're dead, man, You're dead dead, You're dead. Yeah, how did you die. Yeah, let's take a moment. Oh sorry, I'm sorry. This is when you when you die, you don't know you're dead, right, because you're still you're you're Give me those nbis, Give me those ABIs. That's so fucking funny. I die. I mean,

do you want it to be painful or quick? I have an option for both. It's entirely your your choice. Like, this is how you either think you're going to die or would like to die. So let's say both and we can make a decision. My thought is, I'm either dying in my sleep at ninety three no pain, basically in a media transition from a dream about heaven to the actuality of heaven. Wow. Or I die from tackling a mass shooter off of a balcony of a hotel. Wow.

Everybody's like Howser. Wowser died at fifty one, but he tackled a mass shooter and they both fell thirty two stories down to their death. Wow. That'd be dope. That's pretty Shooters aren't dope. I mean killing one would be yeah, yeah yeah, And killing one without using a gun would also be really great. It would feel like really like you made him quite a profound point there. Do you know what I mean? Some real die hard shit. Yeah fifty one you say, do you think that's enough? Speak,

you've had it by then. It's not enough. But that's the idea of heroics. There's a sacrifice to be made. You die in ninety three in your sleep. It's not much of a sacrifice. It's pretty cush. Well. I don't believe in the peaceful dying in this sleep. I think that might be lads of pain. You just don't know because they were they died, you know, no one ever guys, Oh I died peacefully. You might like it, but they might be screaming on the inside. Do you know what

I mean? Oh? Probably, yeah, yeah, for sure. So my guy with the tactating the mess sades. Do you worry about death? Yes? And no. I'm a bit ambidexterous with my feelings on death in the sense that I really do believe in God and heaven, and I've already lived a really charmed existence and I've been very spoiled in friendships and creative work, and the fact that I'm healthy even though I'm overweight, Like, there's a billion reasons to

be grateful. But yeah, I feel like I've been given a lot, and I genuinely feel like something good will happen when I die. Having said that, every time I act like I'm willy nilly and super cool about dying, for every moment I say that, there's always another moment where you know, I get a headache and suddenly feel woozy, like like there was a moment Brett back like five years ago, I accidentally took a muscle relaxer with like a hard or a beer, right, and I called my buddy,

who's a doctor, my buddy, Chris Archangeli. I immediately called them because I didn't know what was wrong with me. And then I realized, oh shit, I forget I wasn't thinking, and I call my buddy Chris. I go, I feel really messed up. Here's what happened. And he said to me, he goes, how many did you take? I said, like one muscle relaxer and like one beer or cider. He goes, how do you feel? I go, I feel like I'm

getting a lap dance from a demon. And he said to me, he goes, Paul, there are senior citizens, elderly folks who take two three muscle relaxers a day with a menu of cocktails throughout the day. He's like, you're an idiot, you made a little mistake. You're gonna be fine. You don't have to call an ambulance, because I was literally ready to call an ambulance. So it's just funny how I try to play a tough guy and I'm like,

I believe in God. Everything's cool, But like I definitely flip out on occasion when I realized, oh I could die, or do I think I'm going to It's it's it's a little bit of a dishonest amount of confidence I have. You know, but you think there's a heaven? Yeah, gune in my head. Yeah. I also think a lot more a lot more people are there than people think. I think it's a very inclusively place. I open do policy.

Do you think everyone's allowed in? I think it's like open during the sense of like, even if you don't believe in God while you're alive, Like, who's to say that the mercy of God doesn't allow people in their final moment of breathing or death where God's just like, yo, I know, I know. Shit was fucked up with your dad and he abused you. I know that people what the church you went to were really judgmental and you stopped believing in me. But like I am not my followers,

I'm greater than them. They're broken too. I love you, you want to come hang out and then like, we don't know. But if I was a betting man, I bet that God's love is unknowably boundless. That was what I would bet on. I love it kind. I ask the difficult question, then, is Hitler guying in Hitler and heaven? God says Avin sent coming in Hitler in Heaven once again?

If I were to bet, I would say no, because I think he was bent on destruction, and I think there's a difference between There's a difference between being bent on the Hayden destruction or being a product of Hayden destruction. I think most of us are products. I think the ones that stick out are the ones who who are

orchestrating and constructing and planning and doing so. I have a great great amount of mercy for the vast majority of people, but the ones at the very top, who have the most money, who pretend to care about people, and who all forever alter the shape of existence and the quality of life. For many, those are the ones that I go, well, they're probably going to fucking hell, and so you think there's a hell as well. Yeah, that's kind of the Christian thing, you kind of buying

them both. Love. Well, listen that, buddy boy. You're right. There is a heaven. It's true. It's so true. You're welcome, and it's busy. You're right, it's pretty busy. It's a little it's a little Dare I say it's a little crowded. You're like, I thought they'd be. I thought there'd be a bit more space. This is heaven. It's lovely, but occasionally you're like, you're sighing a bit because people everywhere, but it is filled with your favorite thing. What's your

favorite thing? Puppies and babies. Okay, well let me tell you. There's puppies and babies everywhere everywhere. Yeah, I'm into it. You said it was crowded. It's crowded with puppies and babies climbing. I've reach other jumping around wanting your attention. It's great. They're delighted to see you, but they want to talk to you about your life through film. Can you imagine that? Weird puppies and babies. I'd buy it.

The first thing to ask you is the first thing to ask you is what's the first film you ever saw? Paul Walter Houser, star of TV and film. I would say to the pug and the one year old, do you mean in deers or just in general? I think they'd go, you know what, let's hit Yeah. So in the theater, I think it was Home Alone. I believe Home Alone in nineteen ninety I was four years old and I saw it in a movie theater, back when you could smoke cigarettes in a movie theater. Wait, so

there was a guy smoking a cigarette. There was another guy drinking a glass of beer. It was like a movie theater owned by mobsters or some shit. It was. It was pretty archaic, you know. And then as far as the first film, I remember seeing the Art Adventure, I guess I would imagine it was like The Little Mermaid or something. It was probably an animated film. At age two or three, did you guy to the cinema with family? Do you have siblings and stuff? He took you?

I did, Me and all my siblings went. I don't even know if my little sister Elise went. She would have been two, but maybe I'm one of four. Older brother Matthew, older sister Julia, myself and my younger sister Elise, and our babysitter took us to Home Alone. And my mom was su propissed because it became the family's like favorite movie, and she's like, I shouldn't been the one to take you guys to Home Alone. She was really bummed. Uh do you remember thinking, oh, I want a bit

of that when you went to the cinema? Did you think I'd love to be in this year? What is this magic thing where I get to partake in somebody's story and be entertained and then it becomes a craving where you crave stories? You know? That was my indoctrination of that. And uh and yeah, I mean my big takeaway, McCauley Culkin was not my favorite person in the movie even as a child. My favorite person was Daniel Stern,

who of course plays Marvin Home Alone. Yeah, I got him tattooed on my arm with a bunch of other guys. These are my childhood comedy heroes, right, I'm reading this for their audio listeners. Show and Stan and Farley and Vanny and Carrie and Williams. Wow, do you know what? And well Martin Shaw, Ye, Daniel Daniel, Chris Varley, Vannie is that Ernie? Any guys to Ernest? Yeah, Jim Varney, Yeah, Jim Carrey and Monte Williams. No, Vanessa Okay, Vanessa Williams,

Um no, I'm kidding, Serena. Um. I think Robin's the goat. I think Robin's the number one comedy drama actor of all time. Yeah, nobody did it at the height of like The Fisher, King, Dead Poets, Society, Goodwill, Hunting, One Hour Photo and then Missus Doubtfire, Morkan Mindy a Laddin Hook, which I know I'm not supposed to talk about because everybody talks about it, but I love her. We can talk about it. It's been a while, But dude, Robin Williams is the ge. He's the number one. Great Chap,

Great Chap. What is the film that scared you the mice? Do you like being scared? I love being scared, not as a child, though, I mean the film that scared me the most was the miniseries of It with Tim Curry. I caught like five minutes of the film. I crept into the living room while my dead and older brother were watching it when I caught the scene in the beginning where he's in the drain and he's inviting the kid to come join him, and then his mouth turns

into a giant like yellow fanks. I really kid you not? I really kid you not. That messed me up. For about a year and a half two years, I was so afraid of Tim Curry as the clown, and in that it went from me not being able to sleep at night and like praying to God being afraid. At about a year in I just started talking to it, the clown. I talked to it to try to take

the power away from it. So I would act like I was undisturbed or undeterred by it by its presence, and would talk to it just so that I could then go to sleep. And I'm telling you, this is the mind of a seven, eight, maybe nine year old at the most. I never heard anything back, but I would talk to it as if to say, like, I'm not afraid of you because I'm making conversation with you, but like, I think that's pretty pretty fucking astute for an eight year old, you know what I mean. So

you'd have. You'd be like, hey, I'm kind of sleep now. I know you're in here, but I'm not scared of you, so I'm just gonna go sleep. Something like that, combined with telling him when I did that day, like how my day was, like, he would let your pen path. I mean, let's call it what it really is. It's Stockholm syndrome. Hey Stockholm? Yeah, had nice? Did it today? That was your day? It never had a bit of beef and potatos. Had a bit of beef and potatos. Um,

And I would make love jacket. No, I'm kidding, I won't take you that first. Um, but no, I that movie is scaring the holy shit out of me. And uh, I would say as an adult, the film that just I'll say disturbed me the most was Ari Astor's film Hereditary. Me. I walked out with two minutes to go. Something in my so you know when you have to throw up and you feel the like the warm spit come up in your mouth. Yeah, and your stomach changes, It's like

a temperature change in your body. I had that moment. This has never happened to me since or before. I had that moment watching Hereditary. Where As the and spoiler alert if those are listening who want to see the film. Spoiler spoiler spoiler. But as the sort of spirit ghost body flies into that like a treehouse where they're bent down and they're they're worshiping mock idols of Christ, something in my body literally turned up like like a stovetop. And I walked out of the theater like I was

gonna fight somebody. I was like, my spirit had been disrupted, not even my mind, my spirit. And I stood up and I walked out of the film and never saw the full ending. And I just assume that's because you know, I'm a Jesus guy. I believe that all people can easily have this holy spirit in them if they believe in God. And I and he was being openly mocked at the end of this film, and it was really dark. They were like macket bent down, and I was like,

I'm fucking not into it, not into it. And I say that, by the way, I say that with no judgment on Ari Asker. I think he's a brilliant filmmaker and he made what he wanted to make and it was very effective. But not for me, oh Man, that film gave me proper nightmare, like that fucked me up. That film for a solid Wait, it's really too really fucked me up. That's the Mice skit I've been me and me and my friends. Really we were very negatively affected by it. For like weeks after we were all

talking about it. Yeah. Interesting, What about crying? What's the film that might you cry? The mice? Do you cry? A lout? Do you cry? I'm a big crier. I'm such a I'm the biggest wos ever. It's a wonderful life consistently makes me cry, Like I've seen it thirty times, but somehow I right at the same parts every time, kind of unprovoked. It's not like I'm like getting ready to cry. It's like it just has the effect, you know. It's it's like I'm cutting onions all of a sudden. Sorry,

you don't say onions there, right, scallions? What are they? What do you call him? Carrots? Carrots? Listen, carrots, corgets? Rocket? I mean, I know, I know, rioty shepherds fucking pie. Um. You know what movie made me cry to the degree that I was almost worried about myself. I saw Interstellar in theaters the Chris Nolan movie, Yeah, and the scene where he spoiler spoiler spoiler if by the way, anybody who's watched listening to this like you're a movie fan,

assumedly like, watch these fucking movies. Interstellar has a scene where McConaughey is like a little mini ghost in a bookshelf from another dimension calling out to his daughter played by Jessica Chastain, and I wept, and once again, similar to the Ariascar thing, I wept suddenly. It was just like it was a sudden thing that shifted. And the only thing I can equate it to is I told my buddy at the time in the theater, sitting next to me and looking at me, like the fuck um

I equated to this. I felt like I was seeing something that I wasn't supposed to be seeing. It felt like some it felt like some bigger, grander, secret truth that was being exposed to the masses. And I don't know why I felt that way, or I haven't really I haven't unpacked it. I'd have to rewatch it and kind of emotionally mentally unpack it. But but that really got to me, I really, I really, I wept pretty hard. Wow.

And that's not even the same the same I would seeing you're talking about his when he's watching in the video of who he is, he's missed. I didn't write that as much as the Bookshelf. The Bookshelf because you saw another dimension you didn't think you were suppiced to, because it broke the natural loader of things in your head. Is that it's like a yeah, it's like a broke a spiritual fourth wall. It was really really strange for me. Do you watch Twin Peaks? Never seen the old or

the New? Which I know is true blasphemous reality as a movie TV guy. But but I do like David Lynch. I've seen a few of his movies. I think I think that would ruin you. I see, maybe you should avoid it. What is the film that you love? Most people don't like it, it's not critically acclaimed, but you

love it uncondicently easy. I love nineteen nineties family comedies like for Kids and families like an Obsessed Seen It a thousand times, Beethoven and Beethoven Second, which is a little edgy where Rice, Charles Gronen and Bonnie Hunt's daughter almost gets raped in Beethoven Second. Do you remember that I remember that she said a house party on vacation. That's no. I remember puppies. No, well, rewatch Beethoven's Second It should have been rated art. I love Cop and

a Half with Burt Reynolds. Yes, have you seen and a Half? Yes, it's so funny that kid Norman D. Golden the third, the kid playing opposite Burt Reynolds. Incredible. I love three Ninjas. Have you seen three Ninas? Yes? Three Ninjas, Rocky loves Emily and another one is house guest was Sinbad and Phil Hartman house guests? Yes, house guest so so funny. Sinbadd Simbad wore the crown man. Simbad had the crown for a couple of years. He was like one of the funniest duds going, and then

it kind of fizzled. I had the Sinbad, who I never seen live, would do entirely improvise stand up every single time. That was the word on the street. Same. One of my favorite stand up specials of all time is Sinbads. I think it's called brain Dead. Uh yeah, it's incredible. Do you think he write it? I think he wrote it, but I'm sure he riffs during it. There's some stuff that you know is rehearsed just watching it.

He does like a musical number to some motown song, and it's like it feels more like sketch comedy than done stand up, which is kind of what I relate to, right. What about a film that you used to loup but you've swasen it you gona No, I don't know this anymore for whatever reason. That could be the Pinocchio animated film from nineteen forty, the original Pinocchio the Disney Yeah, go on, because he's creepy as fun. Yeah, it plays like a child trafficking manual. It's the weirdest thing I've

ever seen. I don't know how it's a family film. There's also just like in general, like there's something very weird about all the parents being dead and kids animated films at Disney. I just find it very bizarre, Like, yeah, I would like I would like to know what because if something has done too many times, you just start to wonder, like these people have to be aware of it, Like why is that a consistent thing? You know, not as much anymore, but it was for a time. I think.

I think that's like Oh, fairy tales though, and it oh, fairy tales of their parents are dead. I think it's not them. That's true, because maybe because it makes the kid have to guind day sounding because now he's looking after it makes perfect sense. Yeah, yeah, but Pinocchio, Pinocchio. You know, there's a lot of Disney animated films. I love, I Love robin Hood. I think it's from the robin Hood one. I love, I Love Beauty and the Beast. There's a lot of great ones, but Pinocchio's kind of

fucked up. Pocio's weird. What like I I got, I'll give you. I'll give you an example of how deep my conviction is on this film I got. I got an audition to do the voice of Jimminy Cricket for the new Pinocchio movie of Tom Hanks, and I didn't do the audition. I just didn't do it. I gotta something feels fucked up. Yeah, they were part of your trafficking menu. I will say, for the record, Giammo doubts Pinocchio, which I believe is now on Netflix, is fucking phenomenal.

Five stars. That doesn't surprise me. I wanted to take my nieces and nephews to that in theaters, but we all got sick with people are having COVID and flues and colds and became a real nascy fare at the Houser House on Thanksgiving. A lot of sickies. That sounds grass. What is the why is the film that made its device to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience you had around seeing the film will always make it special to you. Poof to Hauzar, what's that?

I would save the remake of The Lion King from twenty twenty. That was the movie my wife and I saw on our first date. No way, that's nice. It's very nice, very nice that we went and saw it at the Midtown Arts Cinema in Atlanta, Georgia, while I was shooting Richard Jewel the Eastwood thing I did. So that will forever be a very important film. And I love the original the cartoon, which is technically better than the live action, but you know, it's it's still a

good movie. That you went dating, then, yeah, you did you kiss that day on the first day? No No. I really deemed her to be a pretty conservative woman in some regard, and she was in the dating sense of like, hey, I'm not just gonna, you know, go home with you type of thing. I did put my arm around he at one point, and I definitely bought a glass of wine at the theater drinking wine watching Lionkin. Did you put your own around during can you feel they left tonight? Did you time it or was it

during a stamp page? No? But I did do the popcorn. I did do the popcorn trip though. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. I will also say that two experiences that were very important to me film wise were Children of Men, Love It and Napoleon Dynamite. I saw a Children of Men in Napoleon Dynamite three times each and I took new people every time I saw it. That's how passionately I felt about those movies. Good Time the Safty brother movie. I saw that three I saw that three times in theaters,

and I took new people every time. And like that's kind of the benchmark of whether or not I think a movies truly extraordinary, as if I keep going to see it in theaters and new people. Can I ask you a question, maybe you don't answer it. I didn't know. If you don't, we can cut it. How was Clint Eastwood? Was that an easy film? I hear he does two takes one take? Was it lovely or was it tough? Scary? Lovely?

Tough and scary? Because I was starring in a forty million dollar Warner Brothers biopick directed by Clint Eastwood, that was why it was scary and top But the actual on set environment was amazing, radio great. His crew is like a family. Clint only does like one or two takes.

He tries to keep it to one. But his camera operator Steve Campanelli, who was one of the best in the game, he always tries to push Clint to do another one just for everyone's sake, and he'll say stuff like, hey, boss, I think we can get that pan or that tilt better. I'm not sure I got that perfectly that sun or you know, blame it on the focused puller, so we'll do another one. But yeah, I love working with Clint.

He threw great dinner parties. He was very self deprecating, very cool, and for whatever reason, he barely knew me, but he had a hunch and he vouched for me to the studio when they wanted a movie star, he said, I want Paul Hauser, which is crazy love that what is the film you might relate to say, I'm gonna say Waiting for Guffman. Waiting for Guffman from Christopher Guest was one of those one of those moments where I watched a movie and I said, this is my exact

sense of humor. I love that people are giving committed, straight performances. I'll be it funny and that kind of stripped down budget ensemble thing like that's to me. If I could just make those movies for the rest of my life, I'd be fun I would love that. Love it is why people chain in here. We guy, what's the sexiest film you've ever seen? And the Lion King. There's a lot, there's a lot. Part of it's you know,

I went back and forth. I'm possibly telling you Collateral, the Michael Mann film from two thousand and four, because the whole time I'm just thinking our Jamie and Tom gonna get it on in the taxi carum and I know I'm not the only one. Yeah, it's tense. It's tense between delicious. I'm with the salt and pepper hair, just waiting for him to choke Jamie while mounting him.

Ten I'm gonna say. In the movie The Mask, I remember seeing the mask of Jim Carrey when I was probably ten years old or nine, and Cameron Diaz's performance in the film and how they kind of captured her on screen. I think that was kind of a growing up moment for me of being like women take care of children to being like, I want to have sex

with a woman. You know what I mean? That entrance, the one shot, I don't believe it's a steadicam or it's a crane that rushes towards Camerdez guys up by leg over a boddy to her face, she shakes her hair. I'd say that's the defining moment in half the world, in half the population of the world. That image, that shot is see it into our brains forever. What's crazy

is I know what you mean? And if there are going to be people that listen to this who are like, he's being funny, and there are going to be other things, go no, and my grandfather, my dad mean, someday my son will see it. He will be Yeah, you will be affected in the same way that nine other generations were. It's it wouldn't you really think that it's like it is powerful. That is a powerful place of for this. It's very powerful in the same way that's seeing something

shocking or upsetting might stay with you. That image is forever. I think the reason I think it's powerful is not because of what it purely is. You know. Really, it's just like, here is a beautiful woman. But what it is, what it is for men, is in our psyche at that time, we're going, Wow, if I could only be with somebody who looked like that. So it's not even about the image. It's about some weird aspirational thing in which men are like, I want to play the human lottery,

you know what I mean. There's something sick there. There's something really sick there. Oh yeah, it's definitely no way. Speaking of sick, what's that? There's a subcategory traveling by and is worrying? Why dunes? What's the film? You found it rousing that you went? Sure you should? Eric, he put the bunny back in the box? No um, I that is very euphemistic phrase. No con Eric's a bunch of dudes. We're all like, we're finally out of prison.

Instead of getting laid, we're all gonna be on this plane together, which is kind of dick shaped, and uh, we're all excited about freedom, but we're not really experiencing it yet. This is kind of like a prison in the air. Yeah, you like men in confined spaces. I mean, yeah, reservoir dogs. That's kind of sexy. We're all wearing suits, We're gonna kill each other and were part of a team. Yeah,

maybe I'll split the diamonds of you. We'll run off together and split the money two ways instead of five. You know. Yeah, there's an energy there, you know what I mean? Yeah, tense, you like tension between men in confined spaces. I mean, Black Pep would be on your list if you went in it. Maybe it is. It's a weird sexual energy in Blackbird. Yeah, it's a weird, like funny thing of like these guys who are you know?

I think my character at least has like a weird affection toward Jimmy that like starts off like you're the bully, I'm I'm the nerd. We're from different tribes, and then it's like, oh, we can become friends, and then they start talking talking about weird stuff with women. Yeah, and it's like it almost becomes this thing of like sharing my perversity. It's like almost weirdly sexually tense in a way. Yeah, I think that's Yeah, I think that's true. What is

objectively the greatest film ever? Objectively? It might not be your favorite, but it's the greatest. I would probably say Sidney Lamitz and Patty Schaevsky's Network. Excellent answer. That has I don't think ever come up on this podcast. Ten points for you. Pretty prophetic film. Yeah, great answer. You've seen that a lot, probably twice. It's the kind of film that the first time I saw it, I was just jaw dropped. Second time I saw it, I was like, whoa,

this is as good as I remember. I'm excited for the third. What is the film you could or have? What's the most ever and ever? Again? I mean Christmas movies are often what I watched the most because it's a yearly watch. But I'd rather go to nine Christmas film and say days didn't confuse. Really, I adore hangout movie. I'm obsessed with hangout movies. I love them, Empire Records, American Graffiti, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Once upon a

Time in Hollywood Diner. Like I love hangout movies, Love Dinah. Yeah, love Dinah. What about Dina to be negative pole to? So we do it fairly quick. What's the West family ever say? There is a film that was made, I believe in South Africa by an independent financier and the foreign wealthy financier who made this film thought, oh, we're gonna we're gonna piggyback off the success of ET and we're gonna make this um this other alien adventure film,

and it was called Nuki. I think the most famous people in the film are probably Glennis John's from Mary Poppins and Steve rails Back. Not a real famous cast. But this movie Nuki and Ukie is the craziest, worst thing I've ever seen, but also to the degree that, like I've made so many people watch it with me and just they're laughing thirty percent of the time, thirty percent of the time they're laughing, and seventy percent of

the time they hate me and they're angry. It's it's pretty great when you wait on your first night with your wife, you've met it before you No, we met on a dating app called Hinge. She met on the app, but she'd been chatting for a bit and then you're like, let's go see Lion King. How much time did you spend together before you went into the cinema. Well, we had dinner before. I bought her dinner at a topless

place topas tapas, not topless. I bought her dinner at a tapas place called who is but Hooters Chicken Wings, Owls, not breass a place, A place called Bulla in Atlanta. It's a really good tapas place. We had a good meal. She showed up late because she was in traffic, and uh, I think she showed up like thirty minutes late, so we really only had about forty minutes forty five minutes, I would say, of dinner, and then we headed to the theater. I think she just wanted to talk more,

but I was helped. And so I'm going to a movie. You realize the Lion King. Stop talking. It's the Lion King bit. I want to know what happens. It's the same as the animated. Shut the fuck up. If this is gonna work, You're not gonna talk through films, Okay. Unfortunately that is kind of a deal breaker with me, where like I'll answer, I'll give a ratio where it's like you get to ask a question every seven or eight minutes. I can do seven to eight minutes. That's

but well, I'm merciful. I get one, you get one, you get one, you get one. And even that I'm mad about. I'm really mad. And when I answer it, which I will, I'll do it with a death stet. The worst is when you watch it with somebody's parents or your own parents, because they want to ask a question every forty five seconds. It's like a third grader trying to do the math of the university student. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. It's

so bizarre, it's unacceptable. It's like they're not even watching it. I get so mad about that stuff, and I'm just like, the reason you're asking question is because you're not paying attention. This is a fucking pointless Also, sometimes it's really obvious. I don't mind. If it's like whose guys are so z? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out. Like it's different when it's like where does this? What city is that? And it's like, well there's the Empire

state building. Stupid idiot, bad stuff. Snow, what is the film that made you laugh the most. You're in comedy. You're very funny. What's your funniest film? I remember the first time I saw a Team America World Police. Yeah, and the first time I saw Wet Hot American Summer. For my money, those are the two funniest movies I've ever seen. Really solid, really solid dancers. You can have, you can have paid for them. Pool to Haza. You

have been amazing, A joy a treat. However, when you were fifty one years old, there was a mass shooting. Let's say it was about to take place, rather than it had happened. No one had been shot yet, but there was a man on the roof. He had a gun, and you you were doing Shakespeare in the park. You're actually on stage. This was happening, and you were mid Hamlet. You were doing Hamlet at fifty one, and everyone was like,

but you're funny. Why are you doing such a dramatic piece, And you were like, I could make Hamlet funny, and you walked. You go, hang on a second. You walk through the crowd, and up on a roof is a man with a gun pointed at this crowd. You climb up there, you say not today, buster, and you throw yourself out. I wouldn't say that and grab him and you both full thirty one floors to your death dead. I'm walking along people by the way clap. They think it might be part of the play, but it's only

later they realized I no, that was real. But you're very convincing either way. I'm walking along with a coffee, know what. I'm like, I'm like, what's that mess down there? I come over, I go bloody, Oh it's not Paul Walter Hauzar, is it? He's not taggled a mass sutor. Is he? Blood everywhere? Your body's an absolute state. You've been squished into the ground. I have to get a concrete digger to get some of you out because you've like gone right in the pavement anyway, chopping you up

stuff all I can in the coffin. But there's more of you than I was expecting. What we ller concrete and the bits of the other guys on you anyway, put you in the coffin. It's full, so busy in there. There's really only enough room to slide one DVD into the side of the coffin for you to take across to the other side and on the other side, it's

movie night every night. What film are you taking to show the puppies and babies in heaven when it's your movie night, mister Paul water Hauzar, It's tough, but I think I have to go with the short film The Rope. There's there's this one, There's this one. There's this one performance by this actor. He plays the man tied to the woman, and yeah, really something. I encourage everyone to

find it, you know what, It's weird. I was thinking about the short film the right this morning, because I did as an actor for those of you Paul Wolter has was obviously just looked on my OMDB years and years ago. In the early days, I did a s called The Rope with like a French film director and it's a really beautiful film, except I play the back of a woman is tied to a man, and the entire film is on the woman. So I was literally sort of just a stunt man carrying around this woman.

And I remember doing an awful lot of acting, but you don't see anything. You just see my back and it was like a week. Literally the woman is sort of tied on me back to back, and I'm just carrying her like a like a sack for a week, and I really injured my back at the end of that. And I remember thinking when I saw it that probably wasn't worth it. But the people that haven't really going to enjoy it. I love that I dug that up for you. I not my my co answer real answer

would be Pearl Harbor, the Michael Bay film. Okay, because it's the second movie, the second movie my wife and I ever saw. She wanted to watch it. We rented it on some streamer and watched it together and then talked for like hours afterwards and then made out and that was kind of at the beginning of the relationship for real. Also, if people see it in my casket, if people see it in my casket and don't know that story, they still think it's super funny, like Paul

did it to be ironic, you know. Yeah, Yeah, Well I win either way. I make my wife cry, I make my friends laugh, and I'm surrounded my puppies and babies, going who's next. Yeah, So what's your favorite film? My favorite film of all time genuinely is It's a wonderful life. Okay. I'm so grateful for your time and for doing this is Is there anything you want to tell people to look out for other than your life stand up dates, which were become insane when you do a set with me? Wow, Okay,

done and done. Man. You can see me. I'm playing Hercules for Disney and Marble coming up. I don't know have you heard about have you heard about that? They it's kind of a industry secret. It's not really out yet. I guess my other secret, but they I guess they were recasting it because they said the guy they had was pretty pretty problematic, really funny, really good actor, really handsome, but just like shows up late all the time, and they're like, we need somebody who's gonna be on time.

And I'm like, yeah, dude, that's me. I'm your I sat and he had from Clinton that you punk to a that was so really had to say it was always punctual and uh and really wiped out craft service, really really wiped out crafty. People can see me next year in a Netflix animated film which I can't really talk about yet, but it's one of our greatest storytellers is involved and I got to do a voice in it.

I have a movie I did with Sydney Sweeney. She and I started a movie called National Anthem that comes next, and I play a pivotal strong supporting role in the TV series The After Party for Apple, which comes out with Lovely, Lovely Sam Richardson. Yeah. So the cartoons are dramedy, the movies are drama, and the TV show as a comedy. So usual, right, trying to give a little bit of everything, a little bit of God bless you, Paul Walter has it.

Thank you very much for doing this. Have a wonderful day, yea, bless you. Good day to you, sir. So that was episode two hundred and twenty six. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com, forward slashpect I was doing for the extra twenty minutes of chat, Secrets and Video with Paul Guides a Apple podcast, give us a five star rating and talk about the film that means the nice to you and why my neighbor Marien loves reading them. It always makes it cries. He's very grateful for them.

I hope you're all well. Thank you very much for listening. Thank you to Paul for giving me his time. Thank you to Scrubys Pitt and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it, Thanks to Akas for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics. At least lie them. The photography comes to me next week for another smasher of a guest. I hope you're all well.

So that is it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week, and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.

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