Lamorne Morris • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #229

fucking mind. Fair enough, Henri, No need for cuss words, Thank you very much. Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even Clad Plambles. But this week it

is the wonderful actor and brilliant man, Lamonne Morris. Head over to the patron at Patreon forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you'll get an extra twenty minutes with la Morne. We laugh a lot, We talk about beginnings and endings. He tells me a secret. You also get the whole episode uncut and ad free. Check it out if you like over at patreon dot com. Forward slash. Brett Goldstein Lamourne Morris is a brilliant and funny actor. You know him from so many things. He was a new Girl,

he was in Woke, He's in Game Night. He is about to be in the upcoming new season of Fargo with my girl Juno Temple. I've never met him before. We recorded this over zoom a few weeks ago. He was fucking lovely. I loved it. He was so funny. I think you're gonna love this one. So that's it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and twenty nine of Films to be Buried With. Hello,

and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I enjoy today by an actor, a writer, a producer, a game show host, a game nighter, a woker, a new girl, a new boy, a legend, a hero, a multiple appearances in many things that you love. And I love a man, a myth, a person, and a human and wearing a cap. Please, I can't believe it's here. Welcome to the show. It's the one that I the brilliant saving himself. It's Lamar Baris. Thank you

very much for such a short intro. Man, Just get on with the fucking show. Some of those are a natural, all true. You're wearing a cap we've never met before. I've been a fan of yours for years. Thank you for doing this, Oh, thank you. I've been a fan of yours for months. You are a friend of Sam Richardson, one of the great Yes, yes, and and also Junior Temple now one of the greats. These are two of the great Yeah. Now, I've got so many questions for you.

One is I was looking at your IMDb page to check if those ending I missed, and I was a fan of New Girl, which you did forever, forever seventh seven seasons, seven seasons. And what I was really curious, it's a brilliant show. You were brilliant in it is you wrote an episode and you directed an episode, and I would love to know what that experience was like, given that you were the idea of directing the people that you've been the cast with. Suddenly the change of

sort of that powered dynamic might be odd. So I've always been I don't think I would how was it for you? Well, I wanted to feel like the boss. I mean, it was an interesting one because I wanted to you know, these are my cast mates, you said, we've normally turned it for so long, and I kind of the little brother of the group, and uh, to direct it was like I pretty much wanted to say fuck you to you guys. You know what I mean.

I wanted to give him shit, but I couldn't because what happens is there are so many technical things that you have to think of and that you have to do, and the crew is as long as you've known the crew and as cool as you guys are, they don't want they don't want to be there all day and watch you dick around, and so at some point I

had to focus up and really get shit done. Um. But the level of disrespect from my cast mates that they stole upon me at all time, by I mean, they did not give a fuck that I was there. They did not give a shit such by that point, and by that point, such divas, such divas, I mean, I think Zoe had like Zoe had like four trailers. At the time I was discuss no one listened to me. Yeah, did you try to give them nice I'm like, I can't imagine that with with your own cast. Guy, Yeah,

like this. I've been thinking this for five years. I wish you did it like that. I know it's you know I did. I did try that. And someone like someone like Max Greenfield, for example, is such a performer that he could take any note and then amplify it by by fifty you know what I mean. And then I would watch when I would give him a note, because usually when a director gives him a note, he's like, got it, and he'll go on and he'll give you

that times ten. When I would give him a note, he would sit there and thought and start to question the note and dissect the note and asked me why I wanted to see the change in his performance? Why did that? Why did he need to walk in from the left side of the state, Why did he need to say it like this, like give me a fucking break, man, just just do the thing that you always do. My job made me look good, you know, But they weren't having it. Man, well a night man? And what about

the writing an episode? Because unless I don't know, forgive me, if I don't know this, it says you only wrote one episode, so I guess you weren't on the writing team. You weren't part of that. How did that come about? Yeah? That was that was interesting. That was during a very racially charged time in the States. You know, um, as it always is. I'm yeah, that's over now. I saw it. The girl fixed it. But during that time when we were fixing it, you know, there were things that had

to be addressed. A lot of stuff was happening with police, and my character was a cop, and and I was I was kind of I don't want to say, ignoring it, but it was just like business as usual. I thought, you know, this always happens. And so when fans started getting involved and tweeting me and saying, man, how does it feel to be a black cop? You know on TV?

This is this is when the situation happened in Ferguson, uh in Ferguson, Missouri, and and my cat's name is Ferguson on the show, and people were like, man, you're a black cop with a cat named Ferguson. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm not I don't know what to do exactly. So and I did feel some type of way so I asked Liz Merriweather if I could. It was my It was my idea to become a police officer on the show. And I've always wanted to play a cop on TV, but more in the slapsticky police

Academy style. And so when I got a chance to do it, it it was great. But then all the stuff started happening and I felt like, Okay, I'll still be a cop, but can I not wear the uniform as much? And you know, I'm tying these questions and I maybe this is my stance against brutality. And I didn't know. I didn't know what to think. I don't know what to do. I was just felt weird. So she was like, hey, we get a lot of mileage out of this character.

You know, maybe we should write an episode. And so start speaking with police officers and speaking with folks and seeing how people felt about the situation, and came up with the with the idea and how was it. Yeah, but even in that episode, my co stars didn't respect me. You know, they start improvising a lot more. They start going away off of script, like way of the book you to say shit, I wrote, we don't have to

say this pretty much. That's pretty much how it is fascinating and then so so you know, I'm interested in you do this huge show that you do for seven years. When it ended, a were you heartbroken and be what was your thinking of what to do next? Like how did you approach where you went next? In a way I kind of was, I was, I want to say,

I was heartbroken, heartbroken. I didn't get paid what I thought I was gonna get paid in the last No, But I was like, you know, this is my first big show, you know what I mean, This was my first I had done a bunch of TV commercials in some game show hosting and things like that, but this was my first. This was like my dream come true.

And to work on it with such beautiful, lovely people, funny, the funniest people, Like the writers were in our minds, you know, I mean, the things they would write, it was almost like you're improvising, but they were saying jokes to you, you know what I mean. And it was it was such a beautiful, long process that when it ends, you're you're kind of looking for that next thing that's

going to feel that way. Of course, you want to take a little time off you know, but once you get back into it, you realize not everything you realize you had it made you realize this was this. And that's something Max Redfield used to say to me a lot. He's he had done a lot of pilots, a lot of guest stars, co stars recurs and he said, this is unusual. So so so you know, enjoy it because it don't happen like this all the time. You know. I kind of felt like I wanted to get back

in back in the game. And the reason why I jumped, the reason why I did Woke right after New Girl, was because I was feeling like, okay, there is this void of performance. You know, I did movies in between there, but there was this void of this long term camaraderie that you would have with a group of people and flushing out characters and trying jokes and trying new scenarios and things like that. And Woke came about and it was one of those shows that mirrored my life exactly. Well,

here I am this. You know, folks out there, we don't know what Woke is. It's a It's a show about a cartoonist named Keith Knight, is based on a real guy who was one of our creators, well, the creator of a show. It was about his journey through his quote unquote blackness or his wokeness or not being woke, you know, or is that a real thing? Or what

the fuck am I doing? You know? And that was kind of me, you know, being on television, people start looking to you for answers for some reason, and it's almost like they don't realize that I went to theater school and they put on makeup and I danced around stage, I tell dick jokes, and they look to you for answers, and so you start becoming more engaged and trying to figure out who you are and where you fit in

the world. And this show was that, and it mirrored my life and so I said, this is something I want to tackle for sure it was and it was great. Yeah, I digress from the New Girl. No no, I that's the understand question. Did you did you going from being part of an ensemble to being the lead of a big show. Did you approach it differently? I did? Were you more of a dick ad over you like with that thing? Like? Did it did it feel more pressure? Was it a different feeling or was it similar, it

was definitely more pressure. I will say that I spoke with Zoea a few times about just her responsibility leading New Girl, and I just remember, I remember just watching The Daily Grind that she had to go through being producer, being star of a show, you know, um kind of carrying the show. And so with with Woke, it was the same thing. I I kind of wanted to take take it on more as a It was weird. It was like I wanted to be a big brother more than the star of the show. Yeah, so I can't.

You know, we had one character on our show, t Murph, who I mean, this guy's so funny, He's he's another level funny. But this is his first time acting on the show, and so you know, you know, there was a there's a there's a leary character being on television and transferring those jokes to TV. But he was just on it, and there was a lot of kind of coaching him through just the business end of it, you know,

not so much performance or anything like that. It was the business end of it and and set etiquetted and letting him know, you know, here's what's going on over here, here's what's going on over there. And in season two, the guy came back like, I mean, damn all star, you know what I mean. If you guys can't see me, I'm snapping my finger a lot, you know. That's how, that's how, That's how he was. He was just popping on all cylinders, and I kind of felt like, that's

what I want. That's how I want to lead. That's to me, is what number one on the call sheet is is taking the actors and kind of making sure they're good, making sure they're set up properly, and being the voice for them to the suits and all those folks up there. Interesting. Yeah, But then but I will say this too, on the perform On the performance side, though, it's fucking hard. Man. It's like you're in every scene. Yeah, you're, you're helping rewrite, you're you know, you're, you're charge of

the troops. I was lucky enough that our show, Every actor on our show was so damn good, so good, they're so they're so good that it was kind of one of those things where I just had to like memorize my lines and perform and be funny yeah, and and and and be real and be believable and do all those things. So that was that was that was kind of an easy part because they were so dope at what they do. You know, Seshi is probably, you know, top five funniest people I've ever met. She's just so dope.

I was gonna tell you something that I forgot to tell you at the beginning, and I should have told you. I'll just say you've died. Fuck, you're dead. You're a dead Fuck I know, I know. I'm I'm a time traveler. So yes, how did you die? Tell me? You know, id steen it, how did you die? I ain't. I was time traveling, you know what I mean. I died at a very very late age. And then I think it's just two hundred um seeing the future. I was doing my one hundred and ninety ninth time jump, okay,

and this was against the government rules. They couldn't catch onto me, and in one of the loops, I died. I passed away, uh, and I was never seen again. But since the one's ever seen me again, there's a possibility that I might come back. Oh, you're very much dead. I've seen you. You You're like a Jackson public between the lakes. Yeah, just for the just for the listener.

Obviously I just had had the time drivel work. Um, what happens is you have you have a force of energy that hasn't hasn't been created yet, so it's hard for me to explain. There's certain neurons and atoms that I mean, no disrespect to you, were the people that it's out there right now. Yeah, just plump y'all plump dumb compared to what we know in the future, the future smartest ship. So there there's a force. And what

happens when they collide they squish you. They squish you at They squish you at the base first, and everything comes up to the top. So it kind of feels like you have a bit of a headache, right and then you know, you move around about and you you time jumped. They whip you up in a sort of sense of figal force and then that's not what that's not what they call it in the future. But yeah, sure, I know what we call it now, but that's not

what they call future. Yeah. Yeah, and then but nice try do you get to live you put in or are you jump? Yeah? Quite now where you're gonna land? Well, no, there is a neural link. The neural link is still a thing that's in our all of our heads, right, yeah, so you don't have to like to type it in you think therefore you are you know what I mean? Yeah, you can. Yeah. And when you can buy a hack yourself,

you can. Just you know, some people they have restrictions and blocks on the way they think, you know what I mean, yes, yes, But when you take off those shades, when you take off those restrictions, when you buy a hack the neural link, you can go anywhere you want. You can be anywhere you want to be. Do you understand? I do? And you blame my mind. Okay, what's your favorite what's your favorite year? My favorite year was nineteen thirty eight? Any peak reason? I killed Hitler? You did

kill that? Yeah? Oh wow? Motherfucker? Oh yeah, killed his ass. Oh wow. I walked up behind the real slow. He looked at me and he said no, he said something, you know how he is. He said some bullshit, and I got pissed off and I let that motherfucker have it. Yeah. That was a good year. That was a good year. I was. I was very much so celebrated and throughout the annals of history I am a bit of a hero and the people love me in the future that people look at me like I'm you know, like I'm

la somebody. You know what I mean. Yeah, I mean I hope I've treated you with the requisite respect you have you have I mean this. Don't take this the wrong way. It is beneath me to do yes, because in the future, you know what I mean, I'm solving world issues. I'm that kind of guy in the future. Right now, I'm just a fucking dick joke teller. Yeah, you're not doing podcasts in the future. What do you

worry about death? Something that you worry about Lemon Mars, Yes, you know, I've I've I understand the type of answer that something Jim gaffickand said he would die in a plane. And the reason why I had such a lock winded answer is because death is Death scares the shit out

of me. I don't want to die. I am so terrified of it that thinking of any scenario of how I could die in my mind, I feel like, well, fuck, this will be the podcast that they'll play back over and over again when I do get gorilla raped or something. You know what I mean, Like I don't or you know, I don't. Yeah, Like so I'm like, Okay, the future, that's fucking that's come on. I'm not time traveling, but

you know, that's that's the best I can do. I don't want to say anything else because I don't want to manifest this bullshit. Have you always worried about death? I have? And I don't know why, you know, I don't want to say I don't know why. There have been occurrences in my life where I've lost people. And the feeling you get when you lose someone, I think we all can say is the worst feeling in the world. Is it's horrible. So there are moments in my in

my adolescence, you know, where I lost my grandmother. Then in my adult life lost an ex girlfriend and that was yeah, and it was it was tragic and it was like so just to think about it, it worries me. And now, you know, I take care of my family, you know what I mean. I'm responsible for a lot of family members and their well being. And you know, we talk all the time. We we counsel each other, my friends, and it's and we're getting older and now I have a daughter and you know, yeah, I have

a two year old thank you, thank you. It's so I'm just I'm like, I need to be here for her. I need to I need to teach her about about about Michael Jordan and Lebron time travel and you know, yes, and I gotta be the one to do it, you know. So um so, just but the idea that I'm not here, honestly, what the fuck will everybody do? And that includes you and the world. It's something we talk about. I mean, I really get it. I get I get what you're saying. Yeah,

it's it's uncontamable. Yeah, because also we don't know what's behind the curtain. I'm you know, I was born raised Christian, so I have some sort of idea of what I believe. But you know, as time goes on, I start to feel like I start because I believe in consciousness, and I don't think that consciousness disappears. I feel like and maybe this is weird, maybe maybe there's too many shrooms. I don't know. I just feel like I feel like I feel like we've we've probably died so many times.

There is no way to know, you know, there's no way to know we've probably died. We probably were gorilla raped. You know brutally I feel that. I mean, no, no that way, but yeah, I feel that. You know what, maybe the thing is, have you ever done have you ever done high dives? Diving off a very high diving board.

I've never done that, right, I think I've done it once, but yeah, and it's scary, right, I was thinking, I whenever I'm near a high diving board, i will go on it and i will jump off it and it's fucking scary, and I'll keep going because I'm trying to get to the point where where it isn't scary. And what I phone doing high diving is it never gets easier, like as in I think your brain, your body, the higher you just looks down and goes, fuck, no, you're crazy.

And I'm trying to tell it, yeah, but you just did it and you were okay, And it doesn't I've never found it get any easier. I still do it, but it doesn't get any less scary or less your instincts going, don't jump, don't jump. And I wonder if the many times that you've died, it's the same thing, so so it doesn't get any easier dying. You've died a hundred times but it's like a high diving board. Your your instincts are still going yeah, yeah, I don't

want to do it though everything inside. But we've done it. We've done it, We've done it. We've done this. Yeah, one percent. I'm not I'm not an adventure seeker, you know what I mean. I'm not a thrill seeker whatsoever. But but maybe I think, maybe I actually do. Maybe I maybe I have skydived and then died, you know what I mean. I just keep telling myself Nah, but yeah, it's it's a thing that just terrifies me, and so I do in all actuality the way I would love,

not loved love. Yeah, the way I would love to die is at one hundred and eight years old in my sleep, you know, and all my loved ones are around, you know, praising me. Good job, buddy, he died, Yeah, way to die. Well, listen, you're you're right on a number of these things. But there is a heaven. There's a stop bit, there's a bit where you're going on between knives. There is a heaven, and you're very welcome.

They're huge fans of Woke and if the episode you directed of Newgo and of the episode you right, you gotta. They're huge. They like everything you've ever done. They weren't talk to you about your life, but it's still be your favorite thing just heaven. What's your favorite thing? There's two things. The first thing, the first thing I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna talk about, you know, having

a hair surrounding me. I'm not gonna talk about that. Well, I'm gonna talk about the women that are just rubbing my shoulders and like telling me how like huge I am. I'm not talking about that. You're so big, big bi boy. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, like still like yeah yeah, yeah, I can't even and I'm like, I don't even try, you know what I mean. That's not what I'm here to talk about. And that's why that's

why that really was up to you, wasn't it? Because you Yeah, I've been really But for real though, my favorite thing is is my favorite thing is floor seats at at a basketball game. That's my favorite thing. I'm doing that in Heaven. I'm obsessed with it because I'm no good at it. Oh you just wanted you just would like to be that class to see it. Yeah, it's such a have you ever been to a basketball game.

I have been to a bast game, but not not not quote side, and I've always looked, must speak, I'd just be worried about tripping someone overall getting in the way. I just I thought these are not ideal safe Yes, a getting all getting hit or getting hit by a bow damns terrible. That's hard. That's that that would be hard to do. Imagine like you know, yadis into the coomborus, somebody just elbowing you in the face. That's that's difficult.

But for me, it's the I grew up playing basketball, and so there is this you know how guys are man, We're like, we're so obsessed with the greatness of these athletes, you know what I mean? They do nothing for us in all actuality and not paying my bills. It's just a weird hoop dream that I have, like living out my fantasies to other people. It's it's just, you know, I just love it so much. So that's what I'm

doing in heaven. Okay, well, so heaven it's it's flow States, cold side flow stats and you're surrounded by your ham No no, no, no, no, no, we're not talking about the hero. I'm not talking about it. I'm just saying they're there. Yeah they're not, you know, we're hey, we're not talking about it. They're just that. They don't talk about that about so strong, so strong? How do you lift that big old thing? It's so strong. I'm like, stop, no, no, no,

don't worry about it. You know, there's a there's a there's a whisper going around about ambig is because they keep but now we're talking about it, but there's a whisper. Yeah, there is a whisper. I mean, you can you see it. You can see it, you can feel it. Everyone can feel it, obviously, but everyone we're not talking about here. No one's talking about it, but they can feel it. This show is so perverted. That's not what I'm here for. That's not what I'm here for. That and yet that's

what the audience they're here for. Thank you for delivering. They want to know about your life through film as well. The first thing they want to know is what is the film? What's the first film you remember saying the first time i'mber seeing this one's a this one's a difficult one because I knew I saw a lot of

films when I was a kid. You know, we lived we lived in this small house and in Chicago, and you know, we had term of the TV being in living room and they're always being this news station or this TV station WGN that would play you know, like Saturday Night movies, Saturday Night movies or whatever they were. And so I remember seeing like old Chuck Norris movies

and Bruce Lee movies and Love Kung Fu movies. But the movie, the movie that I remember seeing vividly was when we got the VCR for the first time, and which is a big deal where we come from. It's like we were broke, you know, we were broke. So we got a VCR and there was this service that you could check off movies from this paper that they would that they would send you in the mail. You would mail it back to them and then they would mail you the movies unless how you bought VHS tapes, Yeah,

like a betting slip. Yeah. And they had a bunch of different things on there you could choose from. And the movies that we selected the Joy Luck Club, Blue Chips, the Air Up There and Dragging, the Bruce Lee's Story, and the one I remember the most is The Air Up There, starring Kevin Bacon. It was I mean, do you remember that movie at all? What's the Air up there? So?

The Air up There? It's Kevin Bacon is a basketball coach who goes to the small he's looking for a new looking for a new recruit, and he goes to this town in Africa and there's this guy who's just so good. His name is Sale, I think that was his name is Sale. He was so good that I think Kevin, Kevin Bacon ended up just staying over there and like coaching this team, you know, staying in Africa coaching this team, you know, the White Savior, and he

goes over there. Yeah he's just yeah, it's like Michelle Peiffer in Dangerous Minds. He just he just really, you know, really helped this community out by turning Sali into an All star basketball player. And Sal he had no shoes. He just literally wore feathers in alloy cloth played I think he played on like a peach basket, like old school. But you was so good. He was so good and Kevin Bacon really brought that brought that fire out of him. But that was actually one of my favorite one of

my favorite movies of all times. It's the reason why I love Kevin Bacon because Blade Shits. He's another basketball film. Yes, yes, I'm obsessed. You you are obsessed, and you really can't play. I'm decent. I used to be able to play really well. I just over time I stopped, you know what I mean, Like I didn't, I didn't make the pros, so I quit. Do you have siblings, are you watching these films? I do so, so I'll tell you this. I love basketball.

My sister, I don't know what she loved back then, but she picked The Joy Luck Club and my brother and my brother picked Dragon the Bruce Lee Story, which is another classic. Yeah, exactly. And my brother's middle name is Lee. So maybe that's why, you know, maybe that's why we have a big fascination with Asian culture, big big fascination and our and our family. So and I think that's like black folks in general, and we love Kung Fu movies, we love the like, you know, everything

about the Asian culture. Like that's just sorry, if we feel connected. I don't know what it is, you know, even I've never been to Asia. Idea, no idea. I just I think my first ten girlfriends were Asian. I don't know, it's a fascination, don't know. Man, You know, we are worldly people. We love everybody, you know. But back then we just connected more with these films. I guess. You know, what's the film that scared you? Device? Do

you like? Do you like being scared? You know I do, because I feel like I feel like it was a challenge. You know. People would talk about these scary movies. Oh, man, you're the Exorcist, will scare you? I was. I didn't. I wasn't. It didn't do it for me, you know what I mean. The Exorcist didn't do it for me. The Shining at the time when The Shining came out, you know, when I was younger, these psychological type of horror movies didn't do it for me because psychologically I

was inept. I was a fucking child. I didn't get it, you know what I mean. Yeah, Oh look there's twins in the hallway. Great, let's play you know what I mean, Let's do this exactly, you know, so I get the fascination of it when you're older. But back then, the movie that scared me the most was a movie called Clownhouse. Yeah, that was in want to say, nineteen eighty nine, directed by this guy, Victor Salva. Clownhouse was a movie about these these escaped There was a break in a mental asylum.

Simultaneously there was this carnival going on, and these people broke out, killed some carnies painted their faces like like like they were like they worked there, and started stalking this kid, you know, followed him to his house. There's this scene that's so terrifying where this kid, this kid looks outside of his window. He's got this swing that's in front of his house. He looks outside of his window. There's nothing there. He goes back out. There's a clown

sitting in it, just rocking back and forth. You know. He jumps down. He's like, oh my god. He looks back up. There's no one there, but the swing is still swinging like ship. Clowns on the move. He's coming to get you, you know what I mean. So that right there, Yeah, that that I hate clowns. I hate clowns, So that right there really freaked me out. There are others like Halloween, Michael Myers and stuff like that, which is my favorite, like favorite horror John Or franchise yeah,

but but Clownhouse is the most terrified for sure. Great un has never come up, and I always respect that. No, it's place. No, that's the adrop there very well, thank you, my friend. Here's thinking about clownhouse though, Yeah, here's thinking about clowns. Here's thinking about clowns. Tell me it's like going to It's why I don't like going to haunted houses. Right, you go to a hearted house. Everyone's wearing these weird masks.

Everyone's got these chainsaws, they got knives jumping out at you. It's a lot of crazy motherfuckers in this world. What Yeah, what happens when there's a disgrattled employee of a damn hearted house and he's like, I'm gonna fuck somebody up to date, I'm dressed in the clown No one's gonna know who's really. No one's gonna know exactly. That's why I don't go. I don't go. I can't. I was. I went for the first time to universals Halloween Knights.

Halloween Nights are terry. You haven't been to that, It's scary, and I was. I was really impressed by the fact that they chase you around with chainsaws and knives and I'm sure, yes, I'm sure they're not sharp. But the fact that they seem to stab at you but miss and you're running and you're suddenly like the fact that I didn't see anyone get injured or you know what I mean. Like the fact that they fully stab you, but a stab you. It's quite impressive physically. It is

the choreography of it. The scariest part of that, though, is it. I do believe you sign a waiver before you go in. Yeah, you say if if they make a mistake and they stab you in the eye, yes, Like, what the hell is that? No, man, No, no, no, no, So you're saying as a possibility, because this must happen before anything can happen in it anything, I know one of these people might not work here. Yeah, exactly. I'm telling you. It's a lot of weirdos in this world. Man,

it's a lot of weirdos. What's the film that made you cry? The mist and now you are crying? Man, I'm not a crying man, you know. I'm an old school Clint Eastwood, Burt Reynolds, you know. Yeah, nothing gets to me. You don't mean grizzled, real grizzled fella. Not really I do. I am a crier when't necessary. I'm not crying for no reason, you know what I mean. I don't cry at sunsets and shit like that, like, oh my god, look at that. Shit happens every day.

Why are you so emotional? I cried recently in a film. I recently saw a movie. I saw, Black Panther, Wakonda Forever, and that one made me cry immediately because you know, Chad Boseman, God rest Assul was was a buddy of mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was very influential and and you know in my in my entertainment life, parts of my career. You know what I mean with you know, his advice before I would help, helping me audition for New Girl, or coaching me for this movie or that project, or just being

around you know what I mean. Just watching his journey up close and seeing how he handled himself as a as a as a human being. It m It hit me because when he passed away. Originally, you know that moment I was, I was dealing with something I was I was dealing with something else in my life. So when he passed away, it I was I felt that I was. I was. I was troubled by it, and it was I was, obviously, like everyone else, shocked by it because he kept it so so close to the vest.

But I cry, but not a lot. I didn't cry as much as I thought I would. I you know, the rest of the world was was mourning, and I felt a little comfort in that that everyone was on the same page that this was, you know, sad. I wasn't alone and that, you know. But then watching the film, they give a tribute to him, and it hits you, and it plays into the storyline of the movie, and it just hit I don't know where, because I just

like out of nowhere. I'm in the theater balling, you know, because like man, I never sat and just watched like I avoid watching like TV, Like when they give the tributes on certain things, I'll like turn away and like an award chosen to give. I just I turned away

out of you know. But this one, man, I'm sitting in the theater like just going like you know, throughout a lot of the movie, you know, and the actors did such a great job of playing me and his family and his friends and all the people that mourned him. They were playing that so well and so real and believable and honest, and it was just it was hard. Man.

That movie was hard. It was hard for me to watch, you know, so and I and I just saw it when it came out, so I was like, you know, but but very therapeutic in a way because it was like, man, I kind of got some of that out, you know what I mean? Yeah, what an amazing and so that question, thank you? Yeah, of course, man, what what is What is the film that you love? People don't like it, it's not critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally. What

is it? Are we are we disregarding adult films? No, love me a good X rated? No, I would probably say I'd probably say Potty Tangtang, But I great and I love Put Back. I love that movie so much, man, yea, I tell my gosh, man, it's one of the it's one of the dumbest things you can ever lay your eyes on, ever. But you're just laughing uncontrollably at how silly and ridiculous it is. You know. I talked a lot about Gorilla assaults, and um, we spoke about it

a couple of times on this play. Yeah, but I got that. I that all stems from the scene and Pootie Tank where where it says Pooty Tank's father was killed at an unfortunate and an unfortunate work related accident, and while he's at work, working at like a factory, a gorilla comes back. It's just it just destroys them. It's so stupid. But these and I saw that at a younger age. These things stick in your mind. Man.

They said, you know, my birthday, my friends thought it was like every year for like three years, a friend would give me a Pooty Tank poster or a friend would give me a Pooty Tank cassette tape. It was such a running joke in my life that if you knew me, you knew refer to Potty Tang in some sort of way. And so yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, what about a film that you used to love but you've watched recently and you do not love it anymore for whatever reason that could be. You know, I don't

want to say I don't love it. It just doesn't hold up as much as I thought it was when up. Now here's the thing I don't want people. People are gonna take this the wrong way. People are gonna make it seem like I am bashing this movie. I'm not. Okay, dude, everybody, everybody shut up, shut shut up. Listen, everyone listening? Can you shut up? Please shut up? Please stop? Thank you now that I got your attention, space space scream. Oh

my god. And I feel bad saying it. The reason why I say that it's it's not because it's a bad movie. It's still a great movie. It's still looney the scenario, it was still mains perfect sense plot wise. Yes, yes, I think I do think it was better than the remake. You know. Um. However, when I was a kid and I was watching it, the bugs, Bunny Daffy, they did their thing. They killed it as always right. Yeah, when I was a kid, I thought like this added to

the Michael Jordan legacy. For me. This was like yeah, and he's like he should get one of those awards, you know, like an Oscar or something like that. Look, how look how good he is. He just dumped from half court like it's Michael Jordan, you know. And when I got older, I was like, oh my god, Michael Jordan is a shitty actor, dog shit, Like he is horrible you know, if he wasn't Michael Jordan, he wouldn't have got this role. Yeah. So so that's what I

mean by it doesn't quite hold up that. Hey, what is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience you had seeing the film will always make it special to you. Let More and mars Man. You know what I will say this, this movie developed my love for

going to the cinema itself. I used to It used to be a point where if I was in a relationship and if the if the girl that I was dating didn't like going to the movies because she didn't like if that wasn't she didn't want to do this every other day, then I she wasn't the one for me. It makes title sense, I'm saying, by the way, very much so alone. Um, but this movie it was It wasn't a movie that I was supposed to have seen

at this age. But but but my mom she was the reason why we, you know, developed such a passion for movies. She loved taking us to the movies. And it was honestly just because I like to sit next to my mom and like, you know, like lay on my mom's shoulder and we get popcorn and like, you know, we you know, we called you know, we're black family, so we would speak our own food in and stuff like that. So like it was just it was just one of the coolest times to be around my mom.

And but the movie itself was a good movie, a great movie in my opinion, But it wasn't the movie. It was just I remember this being the first time I was in a theater I think, watching this movie, and it was a new New Jack City, New Jack City. I wasn't supposed to be seeing that at that age. Man, I was I want to say, I was a good nine maybe maybe this is the best thing ever. Absolutely

it was titties in there. It was it was you saw so many ariolas, and it was like, this is cool, man, And I'm a big fan of Iced Tea, Wesley Snipes. I mean, that cast was absolutely fantastic. So for me, it wasn't necessarily the movie. I just remember that movie being a big deal at the time because in certain neighborhoods, this is a real thing. In certain neighborhoods, people were getting shot at the movie theater, like certain gang rivals

would they knew people would be watching this movie. So people were going to movie theaters and get shot, and so it was like a big deal for us to be at the movie seeing this particular movie at this particular time. And and so that's what just triggered it in my brain, Like it stands out to me, we saw a million movies in the theater that this one in particular was like some eriie going on like yeah, oh oh, that man has a gold chain on, does

he have a gun as well? You know, they're thinking these things and so for me, but that but that also developed it the excitement of being in a movie theater for me. You know, it's unfortunate that during that time too, when that ship was happening, But I was a kid, and it just I don't know, I don't know something about it. That's really My mom and dad took me illegally to see Reservoir Dog at a midnight screening. Yeah,

when I was I don't know how that. I was like young, very young, and there was like someone smiking and someone lit a cigarette off the wool. People were I remember it so well, and it was so fucking exciting. It was so exciting it's a I know, there's something about there's something about like because now that I have a daughter, I'm always questioning what will I let her watch?

And every once in a while I'll find myself sitting on the couch and she'll just because my daughter has so much energy, like so much that when she wants to sit down, I embrace it so much. I'm like, Okay, she's chilling. Let's just sit and not move. And if its hour is great, she she shits herself, fine, just say just like you know, like, so I will not move right now. And if a movie comes on, you know, and remote controls not in my arms reach, I'm like,

we're watching it, you know what I mean? Oh, I got We're about to watch heat. You know what I mean? So you know, nightmreal elm street. That's fine, baby, that's fine. Sorry, What about what is the film you must relate to the film that I most relate to. I gotta say, you know, when I was when I was a kid, I my mom used to tell me that I was silly, like I would goof off a lot and I would you do these voices and I would play these weird characters. And when I saw a nuttie professor. I thought like,

that's it. That's what I'm gonna do. I want to do that. I want to do that. And it wasn't just because Eddie Murphy is my favorite. He's my he's my you know, favorite all time, you know, but it was the fact that he had played all these different characters, and it's the scene at the dinner table where he's the mom, the dad, the grandmom, the the creepy uncle, he's you know, it's everybody, and and each character so unique and so different, and I just thought, man, that's

that's what I want to do. So and still have my time at Second City and my time performing on stage and doing improv shows, and I just love playing characters and doing bits, and you know, even even to this day, it's still my dream to kind of help usher in the new generation of that or maybe bring back those days of people just playing straight up silly characters. You know, you know, we're not so high brow, we're not too good to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know

what I mean. Right, that hasn't been a big hasn't been a big silly film. That's that for a while. No big hit, big, big silly, absolutely not and that don't up to you. You're a fucking writer and brilliant as dude like you created. Yeah, you couldn't do it. I've seen you. I've seen you guys do it. Thank you, man. I want to. I want to badly. Here's a question you've been looking forward to. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Lemon. We're not counting anything in my currently

in my camera role. We we can count anything that you can that you would use the word cinema. I would say the sexiest film. It's got to be cruel Intentions. It's gotta be that movie spitycase. Cruel intentions. Yeah, yes, exactly. Now has anyone used that that has come up? And that has come up about me? I'll be honest, but it hasn't come up in a very very long time. No, very enough. I'd tell you one hundred episode doesn't come up. You're good, well let me well, well, let me tell

you I was. The reason why I say cruel intentions is because it's during that time I want to say, I was in high school. You're you're so fascinated with high society and you're so fascinated with how these folks live it wasn't just sexy in the fact that people were doing it, people were getting weird. It was it was sexy and like this lifestyle that you've, this kind of world you that you're not privy too, you know, especially coming from the Midwest. You're like, what is that

so much hair? Jael Ryan Philippi, Who I want hair? Jel You know, nice button up and slacks. You wear that to school? Like his band was wearing long sleeved button ups with colored shirts and slacks to school. Who does that? The man who fucks that's who does it? Okay, and sure maybe he also fucks his sister, but that's not the point. The point now when probably yes she was killed, um, and there was you know, there was

during that time where you're trying. I was, I'm not gonna lie and this is this is something I'm gonna just put out there for the world right now. I was trying to I was trying to get laid in high school. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know, I don't know. I don't come on iron that I had them. I'm human. Apparently nobody else could either because nobody wanted it. So I wasn't I couldn't give it away in high school, man, so I so cruel attention, was like, oh that's cool.

I want to live in a penthouse and do it. Yeah, but you know, it never happened. So that's why that movie. Well, let's look at the subcategory traveling bon is worrying. Why don't a filmy found arousing? You wouldn't show you shit, it was probably days and't confused, you know, because well because daysn't confused. There are scenes in that movie. And I don't know why. I want to say I was really young. I want to say I was maybe ten. Novie came out and the girl what's her name? I

forget I forget her name in the movie. She anyway, the really cute girl is a cute young girl in the movie. And I was ten, and I was just watching a movie. And I believe this was the first time that I was around hell. I do think I started to notice a little pressure in the pants. And I was so young. And the reason why I say I shouldn't have gotten aroused just because I thought I was too young. Why why is this? Why isn't my body reacted this way to this movie? You know what

I mean? Everybody's dying. I thought I was dying, you know, So I didn't know what it was, so I started slamming it in the door. I was like, stop, I know, I just didn't. I didn't know what was going on. And I do believe that was the movie. There was a hazing scene. I think there was a hazing scene, and I was just like, what is all these all these girls? Like what? And before I knew what attraction was. But I think I got my first basically confused, you

know what I mean, in your under it exactly. I was days confused, aroused in my trowsers, unbelievable, shocking. I gotta well, you know, I'm not gonna say one of these fucking cartoons or something like that and then have the restaurant. I think I'm sort of fucking, you know, creep. You know. Tell me this, well, it's objectively the greatest film of all time, objectively not maybe your favorite, but the pinna film of film. It's both. It's my favorite, man,

it's the greatest film of all time. And I don't think I'll have any I don't think I'll have any objections on this one. There'll be no pushback, Okay, it's the matrix. See okay, see look aroused in your trials. That really David the matrix. My god, was this groundbreaking for for for cinema, yes, for filmmaking. The technology they used in this movie, you know, it was a mix

of conventional filmmaking but with futuristic. They're still they're still using those techniques in movies now, which is to me fascinating And at the time, my mind was absolutely blown watching that movie. The idea that even now when we talk about when we talk about tapping into folks as brains and where are we living this it's a term that we use all the time, constantly living in the matrix. We're taking the red pillar of the blue pill. That

all stem from this film. You know, it wasn't just cinematically groundbreaking, it was it was it was groundbreaking in terms of thought and how and how we think of society and how we think of where we are of our existence, and you know, time travel, time travel, but

inner what you call it, interdimensional travel. People talk about now and what the possibilities are, and it's weird to me that this movie came out so long ago and we're still scratching the surface of some of the ideas of that film let and you've convinced me it's the greatest film time. We're absolutely right, Yeah, it hasn't. Those

things really really did permea everything. And technologically wise, I can't think of a thing since Bullet Time that has been m M bigger than Bullet Time, do you know what I mean? Like bullet Time with bullet Time and it was amazing. What's what's come after Bullet Times? It's more bullet time? Yeah. And the Matrix for me, For me, it was the the re emergence, if you will, of Keanu Reeves. Yeah, I mean prior prior to two people were like, this guy's just what was he like Bill

and Ted? And he was just kind of like he does the Matrix and that Bood character fits so perfectly, you know. And then when he does John Wick. The reason why people love John Wick so much is because it just reminds them of the dope shit he was doing in the Matrix. Yes, that's why. That's why you're right on every level. I can't argue with that. You've done it. What's the film you could all have watched

the most over and over again? Training Day, Training Day because that also could be for me, it's a toss up between my favorite movie of all time, Matrix and Trained Day. But Training Day, Oh my god, dude, that Denzel monologue, my good oh my goodness. That movie there, that was that's the to me, that is that's my favorite performance. I want to say. Yeah, you know, it's a toss up between that and maybe again that Eddie Murphy and Eddie Professor or something like that, or it's

a toss up between genres. But I mean, my god, the dinamic between him and Ethan Hawk like that, that that's really cool. Like I almost don't ever want to see it again because you know, I know they did a series, they had a series um Training Date for a little bit um and yeah, and it was pretty good. But I but I just I just didn't want to. I just didn't wanna. Don't. Yeah, don't mess with that.

Don't mess with that. There's this the scene that I've watched maybe a billion times, the first the first time they met in the cafe when he's reading the paper. The dialogue and the acting and I fuck, he loved that. Yeah, it's a time fact to save thing. Oh my god. Well, maybe I did a sketch a training day. This is how obsessed I am with it. I got an opportunity to host Kimmel twice and in one of the and in one of the one of the sketches was a training day sketch. I just was so fascinated by it.

You know what I mean? That's great. Training day is the pathetimes to that question. Now, we didn't like to be too negative. What's the worst film you've ever saying? Lamon Mars, the worst film I've ever seen. It's it's fear dot Com. Have you seen that? Fear dot Com? No feared Thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad you. You probably wouldn't be here, right, you'd be dumber for it.

It's one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. It's a movie about these people that keep ending up dead in all of their The correlation between it is that they've all gone to this website, fear dot Com. It was such a rip off of like other films like The Ring maybe and other stuff. It was just so like you know, other movies came after it, did it much better? Movies were before in this style, did it much better. I do want to say there are three movies in my life that I have walked out of,

and this one was one of them. Wow, this one, and this is the worst of the three that I walked out of. And one of the three I walked out of wasn't a bad movie. I don't think. It was just slow and I was and I was taking an edible beforehand, and so I had to leave the movie theater because I was being weird and I was Lincoln. It was so sluck. I had to leave Lincoln. I was like, I get it. He freaed the slaves, YadA YadA, YadA, white so uh as a movie called Sound of Thunder,

I want to say it was. I don't even remember what that was about. Remember the CGI being so bad at the beginning. It was like dinosaurs and it was weird. And I got up and I said, guys, I can't do it, and I snuck into another theater. I forgot what I saw, but I was like, this ain't happening. Sound of Thunder was dog shit to my recollection. But fear dot Com, Oh my my mom, that was worse,

so much worse. And I've done some bad movies in my life, but this, this wasund of thunder It is the time traveler story, and they yes, okay, when you as a time traveling We're like, this is dog shit. I know this yeah because I know it wasn't real. Yeah, how they how they do? No, no, no, see you guys. I'm off to see Fear come again. And what is You're in comedy? You're very funny. What's the film that made you laugh the most? And is it Pooty tank Ill?

It was a toss up. It's there's like a few movies that that are all on the same level of just making me ship myself laugh. There's Pooty Tang, There's the Dewey Cock story, Um wall card um, but there's Tropic Thunder, um any Ace n Toura. But the movie that made me laugh the absolute most, it's probably Blazing Saddles. Yeah,

Blazing Saddles mel Brooks, you know him. Richard Pryor wrote that movie Cleveland Little, That movie man, it was it was my It was kind of my introduction to strange race related comedy, you know what I mean, like the license to laugh because it's comedy. Some people might look at it and go, oh, this is problematic, Like no,

that's that's funny. This movie is just playing funny, and it's the reason it's it's it's one of the reasons why the idea of like, you know, like the fish out of Water story, this black sheriff in a in a racially screwed up time in our country, like saving the day and in doing it in the most hilarious, you know, tongue in cheek way at this town. And I I like, I have that, I have that movie framed in my hallway, like it's I love that movie

so much so I'd probably say blazing saddles. I'll take it. Lemon, You've been absolutely wonderful. You've been wonderful, and your favorite film is The Matrix. However, however, my friend, you were one hundred and ninety nine years old, and you went, you went on a little jaunt, didn't you, and a

little time traveling joant again. You used your you used your fucking neural link, and you forgive my old school terminology centrifugal spin, centrifugal force, and you your time jumped again and you got squashed between the dimensions, never to be seen again. But there I was wondering about inter dimension their lead as a as I do got a coffin with me, just walking about whistling, and I'm like, hang on, what's all this fucking mess? Oh? You know what,

it's hundred len. He's absolutely squashed himself. He's a fucking mess. So I'm scraping you after in dimensional Wolves. I'll get you in the coffin. But there's you know, time, matter, space, matter, it's dark, it's everywhere. Do you get everything I can in the coffin? But there's too much of you, much more than was expected. It's absolutely rammed in there. There's only enough room in this coffin for me to slide. We know how big it is. We're not talking about it.

We know how big it is. Trying to get it all then they say it, yeah, I can't see me. I'm winking out right now. You're trying to get all that in the coffin. It's taking out the side of the coffin it is, and there's really only enough room to just slip under it, slide down the side for you to take across to the other side. And on the other side, it's movie night every night. What film are you taking to show your harem on the front side seats when it's your movie night Lam and Morris.

I'm sorry, I gotta do this. I gotta do it. It's gotta be one of my movies. And the reason it's gotta be one of my movies is because when we get to the afterlife, you know, I want it. When I get to Heaven, I want them to be like if they don't let me in, you know, I want to do what people do at the clubs and stuff, And they say, come on, mate, you know me, you know me, and you know me from such films as Bad. Then I bring out the DVD and obviously I'm gonna pick.

I want to pick Barbershop. You gonna pick Barbershop because that movie meant so much to me when I got an opportunity to be in it. I the whole cast hit is they they they they hit home runs, Everyone's fantastic. I've developed beautiful relationships with a lot of the people from this from this movie. When I was a younger kid, the first Barbershop came out, I wanted to be in the movie. So they said comes. It was like a cattle call. They said, you get to be an extra.

If you want to be in this movie, you can be an extra the cast and direct to look me in the face and said, I'll see you in the movie.

That motherfucker never called me back. And all right, so I was not in the first barbershop and then full circle, I come back and I get a chance to be one of the main characters in in this barbershop and I and that, and I loved this movie so much so when I when I go, I want to keep this with me because I want people to know, even in a different dimension, this movie, directed by Malcolm Lee,

is what cinema is all about. It's about fun, family and just some dope ass people having a good time them is You're going to be very welcome in heaven before you come back for another life. I'm also an adult film, yeah, going an adult film. Also an adult film. I want I might want to put one of those in there too, because it gets you know, it also gets lonely in these coffins. It's no lonely ones. You're there, mate, You've got you've got a r And we're not talking

about I got seven. I don't have seven. I don't have seven, man, That's what I means. We know we're talking about it, but you're not gonna need that out film. Let me just say that, you're gonna be fine with You're gonna look forward to the brain publish they were watching about he's so funny. He's so funny, jeans don't feel look at that. Is there anything you would I like to tell people to look out for, listen to in the coming times of your life. Yes, stay tuned

Far Ago season five, you can stay. Yes, stay tuned the one you're make right now with. Yeah, you're in the one with Juno? Yes, Yes, I am lucky, man, I know, I'm very, very lucky. It's one of the greatest shows I've ever seen, and the opportunity to be in it is making me feel like how I felt when I was on Barbershop. Yeah, amazing. It's It's weird how this world works, man. We get a chance to play and do fun stuff with the dopest of people, and Juno is definitely one of the dopests. So yeah,

sure is okay. Well, I'm very much liking forward to that and definitely gonna watch that. Yes, please do the more Morris, what a tree you have been. I'm really glad we did this. I'm very much enjoyed. Thank you our time together. I hope you have a wonderful dame good day. Ye oh god up, it's painless, fucked man, why are you talking about that? I'd love you fine, I love you boy. So that was episode two hundred and twenty nine. Head over to the Patreon at patreon

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producing it. Thanks to Acas for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics and Lisa led Them for the photography. Come and join me next week for a very funny guest. Oh it's a funny one. I think you're gonna love it. Oh honestly, honestly, I feel you're gonna love it next week. Oh my god, do you enjoyed this one? You actually see next week? I'm all right, So that is it for now. Happy New Year everyone.

I hope you've had a lovely time, and I hope you have a wonderful time ahead of you in this life. In the meantime, have a lovely week, and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.