John Kearns • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #231

about a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant that most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and even Yed Clambon's. But this week it's the brilliant award winning comedian and taskmaster John Cairns. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward to last Brett Goldstein, where you get extra twenty minutes of chat with John. We laugh a lot,

we talk about a secret. We do openings and endings of films. You get the whole episode uncut and ad free and as a video. Check it out over at patreon dot com. Forward slash Brett Goldstein. So, John Cairns, what a guy. He's an award winning comedian. He's lovely, he's brilliant. You've seen him on Taskmaster, you've seen him on other things with Harry Hill. He's about to head off on tour with his new show, and you absolutely simply must go. We recorded this on Zoom a few

weeks ago. He's so good to talk to. I loved it and I really think you're going to love it. That's it. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and thirty one of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by a hero, a legend, a once in a lifetime, two time Edinburgh Comedy winner. He won the Newcomer, then he came back the next year and won the main prize. He hit out all

the competition. Other comics were standing around, minding their own business, just trying to artist. He came in, wallop, get out my way, wallop, this is my get out my way he killed. There were forty comedians you've no longer heard of because this man has bullied and intimidated them out of the industry. He's a taskmaster, he's a Harry Hill helper and he is one of the great men in London living today. Please welcome to the show, the one

and only. It's John Kenns. Ridiculous, completely ridiculous. It's lovely to win awards, but well as you know, the people that I don't want to use the word beats even but you know, you batter the people that the people yet you back the people that I did. But the people that you're nominated with, you know, it's who's who. People have heard of them. Yeah, ye oh very much. People are like, oh you want that? Yeah, yeah, I want that all right? Who has got nominated roma strangulation?

Huh yeah, Okay, I think you don't think you'd swap with you. I don't think it's swap with you now, No, James A. Gassler, Okay, don't I with respect, don't think you'd swap with you. Now. I know I've I've followed my own path, genuine question. I don't remember spoken to you about but I've always thought, I think comedy of all the awards to win, because I think it applies to everything, every every kind of award. But I think

comedy is the worst way. My assumption with with a comedy award is it's a fucking nightmare because every time you're introduced on the stage, if people haven't heard of you, every time you introduced us Age, you're introduced as the winner, the great, you know, the statistically greatest comedian. And then you come on and the expectation from an audience is so suddenly completely differently, Well, this is going to be the best thing I've ever seen. Well, and obviously you

deliver that. So I'm not saying that's the problem. How do you deal with Do you deal with the complete fallout when it isn't? No, I think the problem is, you know, you win an Oscar, you made that film maybe six months ago. You don't have to sit next to that person who goes along saying right, okay, it's

the best film with you. You don't have to then sit opposite them as they watch it, and then they can kind of tell you, tell you exactly what they think about you and what they think about this film. You know, you're gone. If you win that thing, you're gone, Telly. It's been made, it's done, it's gone, the paint's dry. You would a comedy award, it's like it's day one. It's like, okay, mate, guess what your ticket sales are through the roof? Oh oh brilliant. They worked before I

won the award. Yeah. Yeah, that's because a lot of people where they've just heard of you, have no idea what you are, what you do, no idea what you are, but they are expecting it to be the best comedy of all time ever made. We'll just imagine going into that. I remember as a kid, you know, when you're getting into movies, and you know, you buy Empire magazine, you buy Total Film It's one hundred greatest movies, and you go here we go ye, And I mean they're usually right,

actually pretty good films. Whereas stand up is so it's so subjective and particular to a person that you know, people will always go with comedy. Oh, there's a comedy night down at the pub. Do you want to come? Yeah, yeah, I'll come. That's the end of the conversation. With music, they might go, do you want to go to a music night? They go, Okay, what kind of music is it? It's a jazz night. I hate jazz, and that's the

end of the conversation. Comedy people just go blanket, Yeah, comedy, there's no like this, like as if there's no subcategories to it. It's just And that's why I think comedy maybe isn't as appreciated as it should be, and say when it comes to film awards, because people don't see the nuances in comedic performance like you think of Gene Wilder or you think of Steve Martin, you know, the nuances of these performances, these incredible actors something like Bridesmaids

as well. People just kind of take it for granted that it's funny. Yeah, like, well, yeah, it's a funny film. People wrote a funny script, got funny people in it. I laughed. What more do you want? Respect? Christ? But yeah, I mean the most important thing I think is, you know, I had success quite early on, and it was big success. But you do have to just think the biggest tell of successes that you carry on, that you keep going. And so I do think, you know, you don't want

to end up like a footnote to something. You want to be you want to, you want to you want to keep going. Yeah, no, I know, I know you've got a couple of Emmys and in your in your yeah I heard it. Now do you know what it was? It was somebody went somebody, it was worse than footnote. Somebody went, well, you know, you don't want to you don't want to be a rumor, do you, which absolutely

haunted me for the first decade. That really sorted your productivity, didn't It was like, right, I'm upstairs and writing the idea that it's not even factual, Like what did he? Not quite sure? Was anyone in the room, like, oh my lordly so no, you just you just gotta keep working. And you know, if these shiny things come along, you think you've got to enjoy it. But did you enjoy

it at the time that it happened. I did enjoy I know I did enjoy it, but I think I imagine I've never run a marathon, but I imagine it's how it feels at the end of that because I'd been gigging and I had a full time job, and I think when I won, I felt like, right, this is what I've been working towards, and it felt like an exclamation mark, like punctuation felt like a full stop.

But you've got to get your breath back, and you've got to learn to rest, and also in that same breath, you've got to you've got to be proud of yourself but not arrogant. And you're dealing with feelings of do I deserve this and going well, of course I deserve this. There's a lot going on, but crucially, because you've won an award, you can't walk around talking about this. But because it was ten years ago, I can now. You know, you just got to be grateful to say thank you.

But so you know, I think that i'd love someone a Wooded award and not say thanks. I think Penelope Cruz. I think when she wanted Oscar. I don't know why I remember it being her, but I think she went, you don't work for five years now because because people are looking at you, going, oh, well you've won that, and so what like you've completed it, so we'll leave you. Well.

I think a producer again, like I'm just I don't know what I'm talking about the Oscars here, but say a producer wants to win an Oscar, they might kind of go, well, she's done it, so let's get someone who's like, do you know what I mean, Like, because you've won it, you're weirdly Yesterday's person. Yeah, so I

had very I had success very early on. But then there was a moment where you know, I've been going about a year and people were like, oh, you're done, like you're you're, you're, you're on your way, and I was like, I've only been a professional comian for by the time I want both the awards, I've been a professional comedian for ten months, but I was Yesterday's News because it was like, you've done that, well done, congratulations, But it's not the nineties anymore. You don't you don't

get your Channel four series. So yeah, a certainly an interesting time of my career. But in a way I'm glad I got that all out the way very early on. Yeah. It's like it's what I realized about Edinburgh. It's sort of like that is that you make your sort of splash.

You make there's the time you have your weather press are interested in they want to this seems like a good story, and then they never come back so they go, well that was covered, and you sort of think I'm making more and more interesting shows, but no one's interesting because they go, yeah, we got it, we saw yeah, yeah, they yeah, like yeah, you do that and you get it? Well, mate, when what do you want? Well? So I thought it'd last a bit longer, are you nah? Mate? We've got

to move on to the next fresh thing. So that's why you know, I'm working on a tour at the moment. And I think it's that thing of what I like is the idea of that you're kind of going, Yeah, I've done this for ten years. It's been my job, and I've got better, I think, year on year. And also the idea of thinking, you know, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah, I think what you keep proving that you're good at something. I think I mean, you know Steve Martin quote, the

perseverance is a great substitute for talent. Yeah, but yeah, just keep going in any you know, whatever you want to do. Can we talk about briefly if if you're comfortable your personal business, by which I mean you've created a baby. Yeah, I have a son, yeah, and an air. I'm very proud of you. I an he might he won't be left any money, but he'll have a nice wig, a couple of notebooks with some stuff that, you know how not seen as racist. Now did it take before

you put the wig on the baby? Do you know what? Truth? Never done it? That shocks me and disappointed. It shocks me because I've put stuff on his head, right, But do you know what I kind of I see it as my job. I see it as my career. So you know, there is a couple of posters around, but they're stacked behind each other. There's not really anything in the house that you know, I do what I do. So there is something that I'm like, I mean, he's

eighteen months. You know, he doesn't know anything yet, but I do think, well, he knows some stuff. Obviously, an oven is hot. He knows that if anyone stops writing it, But you know, like he knows that actually put him in the oven to teach him that. He knows that. He knows this. He knows this, He knows this. But yeah, I think so it's kind of interesting where I've been thinking. Oh, obviously I've been thinking, you know, my parents had pretty

kind of normal jobs. But he's going to be growing up with two of his parents being a self employed writers, comedians, whatever, So I'm interested in how I'm going to react to that when he starts asking me what I do or yeah, or or he kind of maybe finds out what I do and he's like, I'm fully aware of having spoken to other people who are children are older now that there will be a period like if you if you listen to David Earl talk about his son, or Harry

Hill has put two about his children, like, there will be years where he cannot stand I think what I do and he might be embarrassed to it. So I either get like super super rich before he's like six, and then I deny it all, or I just I just you know, I just you know, grin and bear it and maybe think, you know, I don't know the idea, but what I love the idea is that you know, and this maybe we may come onto this. But when

I pass. He goes through the notebooks, the clippings, the little invites to the parties, and he's going, hang on a minute, he was no fool, I mean he was, but professor, what's going on it? You know he starts, you know, he starts learning about me. I mean pretty grim thought, but that doesn't where he respects what you do. You have to be dead? Yeah, I'm like that. Go yeah, no one respects. I mean it's something i've maybe dadreamed about.

Like the biggest the thing I can't get around, because you're right, in terms of having kids, is how do you explain what you're doing? How can you make it sound okay? Is if they ever came to a gig and saw you die. Oh that's you've sort of prancing around on stage too? Is not into it? Fact, Like, that's that's my dad? Like, what how do you? I mean, you're right, it's better to be dead. He's brought his mates. This is a thing though, Like I'm thirty five, this

could be when I'm fifty. Yeah, I mean what am I doing? Yeah? I want do you know what I'm gonna brett because of this podcast? Yeah, I now announced that I'm quit in comedy. I'm gonna go and do a journalism m thank you, and I'm going to read I'm gonna read the news. Let me tell you who sent me here to do this to you. It was James Ankasta Roberts regulated and all the other nominees. There's a long list that you beat out to what they said.

You've got fifteen minutes to convince John to quick comedy, and I've done it. So anyway, I'm to the next day. You've died your day? Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. How did he die? I'm sorry I forgot to tell you that. By the way, that was all right. No, I was well, I wasn't aware it was happening. But yeah, last thing I remember it was I was at Mass. I've got I've got, I've got back into religion. I

think maybe like High Mass Latin. Lots of smoke, lots of smoke, theatrical you know, men were provided colors able. Oh it's purple everywhere, gold stained glass windows, beautiful. It's east of Sunday. Okay, So there's a there's a celeb celebration where you know, Yeah, there is a vibe, there's una, there's a vibe. This is, by the way, this is Catholicism, High Catholicism. And I don't know, I just kind of keel over in the pews. Oh what collaps? What aid

are you? I reckon? I'm like eighty three. Do you think this is high Catholicism. There's colors, there's smoke, it's all happening there's a vibe. Do you think there's a one in, one out policy? And as Jesus has risen, you must be take it right. When I used to work at the Houses of Parliament before I became a comedian, what did you do there? No, No, well there was a day I was but I can't talk about it. Um, I went into the wrong room, I got out decide something.

They were like, don't think that was Cameron. Hey, um no, I uh look it's something illegal. It's illegal. It is technically illegal to die in the houses of Parliament. What do you mean. Yes, well, I'm racking my brains here for what I used to have to remember. But I think the idea So it goes back to I think our only Prime minister to be assassinated Spencer Perceval. He was shot outside the House of Commons. Well, and what year,

great question? Give th It was before the fire, So I'm going to go with late seventeen hundreds, thank you, early eighteen Maybe anyway, he's shot, he dies. Now. I think the rule was if you died in Parliament you had to have a state funeral, and they couldn't afford it at the time, so they dragged his body out of the palace and declared him dead outside. Wow. So when I worked at Parliament, I always thought, well, if

I die here, I'm technically not dead. So you know, if I if I went to mass there's a little chapel in Parliament. If I pop down there and killed over, I don't know how long i'd be there before they're like, what do we do? Fascinating? Interesting? Did you ever have to move the body? I was working at Poland and then drag it out into the street and god, yeah yeah, six I had to do sex long queues. They're long queues. If there's an interesting debate going on, you're gonna be

waiting a long time. No, I mean no, nothing like that happened. But you know, I don't know people people gave, people gave worse excuses to get out of my tours. So I'm not feeling very well. Okay, We've got another hour to go, mate. Yeah, I really don't feel well. Okay, um I right, okay, you pretended to drop down just school kids, school kids everywhere going right, Let's just pretend it was school kids you were doing this with. Oh, mostly mostly ship yeah, yeah, I mean, God almighty, no,

Whender you're fine with audiences. Well yeah, you take around private school kids and they're very well behaved, and they're like, there's a sense I remember telling one kid around and I was like, well, you know, group them and I was like, all right, do you know who sits here? And on them went his dad. Oh yeah, And then you know there's lords, it's all this all that going on. But you know, and then you take other kids around them.

It's an interesting place because obviously they if you even I remember being their age, you know, you'd be like, this has got nothing to do with me. This place, yeah, it is the absolute epitome of boredom. Like this, this is where boredom is created. No, this is where laws is creating. No, no, no, no, no. This is the most boring place on the planet. Michael Jackson tried to buy that goal throne when he came here. Don't give a fuck mate, did he is that factor you jazz?

I rarely jazzed up. Why there were people that jazzed up. People that jazzed up. They went, you know, keep your eyes out of Harry Potter. I was like, I don't do a thing like that. I was so so like, you relate you're getting facts. That's it. Oh yeah, keep your eyes out for baroness Floella Benjamin what just keep your eyes out. She's nice, She'll stop and talk. Mate, you're the most boring. You are so boring to me at night. I wear a wig and false teeth. Mate,

they don't call me boring? There? Do you worry about death, mister junkins? I worry about death when I think I'm going to die, Like right now, I think I've got my health. But if I'm in the shower and I feel something, or you know the docs, you go to the doctor for a blood test and then the phone rings three days later from an unknown number. Oh, that's that's when it's over, right, And that's when I'm spiraling.

And I'm going that's when I'm spiraling. But day to day I tend I tend not to dwell on it. What are you feeling in the shower? My asshole? Right? And then you suddenly think having having a dig around here, I think I'm going to die. Well, it smells like some has died up there. Horrible. That was horrible. I've heard your podcast. I'm a fan of your podcast. I tread to think that I saw this. I saw your

podcast was recommended on Twitter by the Academy Awards. I hate to think who is listening to this going never heard of this guy. I'll give him fifteen minutes. May you go in. Something's crawled up my arse and died. That's where they've gone. You know what I can do without this off? This is La La landam over again. I can't trust these people. They've got it wrong. They've

got it wrong. Tell me, tell me this. Do you think anything happens after you die other than your body being dragged out of Parliament and dumped in the street. I mean, does your soul goes somewhere? Is there and after life? Well? Well no, I don't believe there is an afterlife. I sadly don't believe we'll meet again. However I didn't. Yeah, break, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get maudling now, which is good. It's my d it's my default position. You know. I was brought up by Irish Catholics.

I went to church till I was probably sixteen eighteen. I did theology at a level smash that I was an a server. I mean I was in it, but I was in it like I don't know. I was pretty good at I wasn't on these people that believed in hell or anything like that, because that wasn't fed to me at all. I don't remember anything like that. Whenever you hear like Mark Maron interviewing because he's Jewish and he'll be if he ever intervis anyone as Catholic,

like he just goes straight to hell. You're like, oh, what did you think you were? Like, did you think you were got a hell? And I'm like, no, you're talking about It's like it's like, no one really, no one really talks about anything like that. It's just this kind of it's the routine, it's the rhythms of it, it's the it's to be honest, it's the actuality of it. Actually, funny enough, the exercise of going through films for yourself. Yeah, one of the biggest themes. And I still haven't properly

processed why. But what comes up a lot actually is Catholicism in the films that I've chosen. Interesting, But again, I think it's more because I like the camp just like it. It was the movies before the movies. So did you did you do you believe in God? Like what part of it? Did you not believe in any of what you were good at and doing, or like I said, did you just like the show of it? Or was there a time where you did believe all of that and then you stopped believing all of that? No,

I don't think I ever fully did. No, it was just you know what you did every Sunday. I went to a Catholic school, I think, you know, with theology, I like the debate, yeah, I just like I like, I like the conversation, you know, the opinions of it, you know, like just the the idea that it's that's something that is such you know, with respect to anyone who does go in for it, that is such bollocks. Is Um is such a it's such a big industry, and it is an industry, you know, it's that's what

it is. Yeah. But I think the slight warmness I have to it is I saw, especially with my family and my grandmother's that the the ritual of Mass, I mean somewhere to go, the community that that created, especially when you know for them Irish immigrants coming over and then finding their their people at church. I think that's an important thing still for people that maybe do come over to Britain and all that, and so I don't think any I don't know what else has replaced that.

I mean, I think over the past even ten year my lifetime, it has slowly deteriorated. But I did see the importance and what it gave, the purpose it gave people around me. So I'm very I'm very, very torn between it all. Really, but no, God in you don't go anymore to to Well, there's a great quote from Craig Brown, a satirist, and he said he feels religious in empty churches and atheists and full ones. And I've

always related to that. If I have time on my hands and I'm maybe in Soho Square, or if I'm walking around, maybe I've gone to Harrods to buy a Crispy Kreme, I might pop into Yeah, I'll part by Lamborghini outside Arod's by. But you know, the prompted oratory there, the great thing, like the suffer example. You know, you do it on holiday busy street or something. You walk through a massive door, bang, complete silence. It's cool and I sit there and I'm with my thoughts. Some people

might call that prayer. I don't think I pray, but I take I take a moment and I don't think about God or anything. I'll light a candle, I'll think about people in my family. But again, it's more about the ritual. And yeah, it's yeah, I think it would take. It will be. It will be a lifetime of working it out really well. But let me believe, let me save you some time. There is a guide and he's fucking fuming at you for your attitude towards this. And there is also hell and you know what, she, by

the way, is considering it, considering it. Yeah, but I could have to you could have told me that before I started. I wanted to hear your thoughts before. But she has gone. Do you know what he did? Accidentally do all the right things, the rituals, the candles, the thinking. That's great. That's it. So I'm gonna give me. Forgiveness is big with this one, and you get to go to heaven. They're huge fans, huge fans of you. It's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? I

haven't heard you as that before. Brett always asked that every episode, favorite thing, what's your favorite thing? You don't ask that, I do ask that. I like books. Okay, it filled with books. It's basically a giant, beautiful library, much like the one in seven, which I believe is in the New York Lovely Library. Absolutely beautiful, but it does also have screening rooms for films, and the seats are made of hard backs and soft backs actually more coupable.

It sounds everything's books, and there's books on trays and books carrying trays in the books. When it talks to you and they they want to ask about your life in film, not books, weirdly, even though that's your favorite thing, but they weren't films. Maybe films based on books anyway, that's up to you. The first thing they ask you,

what's the first film you remember seeing? You know, because because I knew this was coming, Yeah, I racked the brain and I went, well, hang on, I've got three films that I think were maybe the first three I saw, so I actually went and looked at when they were released. Wow. And the one that came first, so it must be the first film I ever saw was Babe Ah what It's one of the great cinemas, but so again, I'm looking it up. Ninety ninety five, nominated for Best Film

at the Oscars. Yeah, deservedly say should have went stunning film. And I really I do remember vividly seeing that film in South London with my brothers and my mum had taken us, and I remember leaving the cinema and get in the car and then going to my NaNs and I just remember thinking, this is a great day. And it's only now looking back that I'm like, right, I think that was because that was the first time you

went to the cinema. The other two were Jamunji, which I went to see my auntie, and a film, a film called Cutthroat Island, Yeah, which was pirate film. That's it. It's a great pirate film. Yeah, and it was the precurs that two Pirates of the Caribbean. I think that kind of film correct because I don't know if it was Disney, but it was a But my memories there are so I think the first film I saw was Babe.

I think I went to the cinema my auntie, So that must have done something in my head where I was like, oh, I'm I'm you know, I'm with the you know, not my mum and dad at the cinema. This is cool. And then I remember the other one was maybe just was with friends for the first time. And when when eight year olds to go and see a film, they're just swapping chairs for about far off. Just keep going. Now there's my Angle's wrong. I'm gonna

sit where you sit. No, I don't know what I'm actually I want to sit at the just have you seen kit They're just constantly moving seats. They just want the perfect view. Good for them. How many brothers sisters you got or just brothers? Two brothers, two brothers? Yeah, old, younger, middle? Which are you? I'm the oldest? Yeah, lovely, babe. I'll tell you a little fun fact. Right. So, Sheila, I believe her name was Sheila Hancock, and she ran the

London Film Festival for many many years. And when I did work experience there at once for a week or something, and she told me she so she's seen every film ever made. She said Babe was her favorite film and she watched it like a thousand times. She's Babe is the greatest film. It's a good film. It's a great It was on TV the other the other week and I was like, the thing is when you see James

Cromwell walking around ever since Forge. That is the thing where whatever film I see him in now, I'm like, yeah, it's to go from Babe. Yeah, you see La Confidential shortly after Babe and you go, oh yeah, but it might have been it might have been ten years after I saw Babe. Right. There we go. You've had your first film. How do you feel about that? Brilliant? I'm doing no God, or might always a little bit more. Yeah, sorry, do you know what I was doing? I was being

I was going this moment, pressure my mom. Okay, can you make it a bit different unless it sounds exactly like you yeah, because that's yes, right, um it might just say right, you've seen Babe Kids, Yeah, you love it, loved it? Bub right, La Confidential? Next? There we go. Is it your favor Oh? I love farmerhogg it. What is he your favorite actor? Yeah? La Confidential? Next? But as the first of all we've ever seen, is he your favorite actor? I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess.

So we're gonna take you like we're going to the premiere. Your uncle knows someone? What do you got to meet him? Christ Almighty? The pigs him on the pig of my favorite Yeah, I like the pig as well. Yeah, you'll meet the pigs look like you. It's lovely to know where you come from. What is the film that made you cry the most? Are you were crying? John kNs? Yeah, boy,

yeah again, I'm going through my brain here. I remember seeing this film in the cinema and I was on control, like I was with my girlfriend at the time, and I just couldn't The film is precious. Oh boy, Okay, yeah, Now are you talking one scene or the whole film? Are you talking the big scene with the moment then yeah, well no, not just the way she treats I just remember, just I just remember feeling so sorry. Yeah for Paul President, for that character. It's based on a book. I don't

know if the book is. I hope it's fiction. Christ but Marik carries in that film. She's really good in that. But oh it's hot. I mean, man, I just I couldn't handle the injustice of how horrible the mother is in that film, and how she treats her daughter and the daughter's pregnant, and then the way her school friends treat her as she has dreams of becoming I think a novelist or a film star, and that's her escapism from the life that she's living. I haven't seen it since,

but that's okay. Yeah, but that film killed me, and I don't think I'm alone in that. That's so lovely. It's sort of lovely that you were so sort of upset by this horrible mum because you're you have a lovely mum and you were like, Pressi's mumm isn't saying we're going to the Early Confidential premier because you didn't

didn't take it. I just I just I really remember going and I don't know why my reaction was so visceral, but well, I mean, I don't know why, you know, there wasn't a part of my brain come and you know this is a you know, this is a film. But I just really remember thinking that is not how you treat people. But yeah, that film killed me. And that was number one, just because I remember being in the cinema. I was, like I said with my girlfriend at the time, and I was like, this is I'm

uncontrollable here. And a close runner up was Remains of the Day. Wow again, I saw that at home. Unrequited love, that scene at the bus stop she's on the bus crying her eyes out, the stoicism Hopkins in that he won a bathroom for that, and that that performance is unbelievable. He's just he is very good. It's extraordinary. Just the way he oh, just the way he just he just holds it and you know he just will not let himself fall in love. And you're looking at a man

who is in love. It's it's an extorre. You're looking at a man who is in love and he is acting it where he knows he's in love but no one else must know. And the way he but when he gets back in the car, there's a stillness and boy, that's that's my favorite kind of acting. I'll say this. I say this on the podcast because I saw an example of it recently the show Blackbird. You know Blackbird, this show that's heard about it Taron Edgerton and Paul Walter has with it, and there is a scene in

it with Taron Edgerton. Everyone's very good acting, way, isn't it. But there's a scene around that that's my favorite kind of acting or performance where he's having to get a

confession out of this killer. So he's sort of pretending to be his friend and he's like, Yeah, they're being sort of lads, lads, lads, and then the killer starts talking about killing a young girl, basically sort of submitting it, but he's kind of bragging as he's telling it, and Taron Edgerton is receiving this information, is so upset by what he's hearing, but he's also having to still be

his brow. It's such a great bit of acting of him taking it in and being so horrified and upset by it, but also still being like cool, cool, you know what I mean. It's a fucking brilliant bit fantastic, really good anyway, good actor, good acting. That's like de Niro in Good Fellers when he sat at the bar figure the cream soundtrack comes over, Yeah, and you just know he's going to kill this guy, and he's looking over at him, just kind of oh the amount of

times I've used that gift. What's the film that scared you the most? Do you like it? Do you like being scared? Do you like it? Do you? I think I do, but I I kind of I enjoy it again.

I kind of was thinking about this and I had a mate who he loved horror movies, and whenever I went around his house and I stayed over, he'd crack on, like, you know, we'd go through them, all the original omen and all that, and I think, you know, with horror, it's all it's it's it's very much if you're watching it with someone else, you can kind of it's like being on a roller coaster. You know. The best bit is hearing your mate next to you scream their guts out.

Yea perfect. Yeah, the ones that I again, thinking back, when I'm fourteen, I'm getting in a film. I'm like, right, I'm going through it. I think it's more not the horror. I kind of it was the Uncanny films. So I'm gonna go with Blue Velvet. Yeah, I was at an age well I couldn't. It was just odd. I mean obviously now I know, but it's just it's just when

you're at that age or an impressionable way. Like again, you know, I'd seen The Exorcist, I'd seen everything, and I'm like, yeah, I get it, I get it whatever, But with Blue Velvet, it was just so fucking creepy. Yeah. And also when you're fourteen, it's quite erotic as well. Yeah, so you're kind of you're turned on and you love the music and the way he's kind of seducing you,

but yeah, it unnerved me, unsettled me, obviously. Dennis Hopper's performance is a bloke like a plastic mask at one point, like and you know, it's those images that you go to bed and you're like, well there you go, and you just yeah, they just flash up now and then you're like, oh, okay, that's still one that's still there. But also just you know, the white picket fence and you know, classic everyone just waving and all being very sweet like it's the German Show. Yeah, the uncanny always

kind of got in my noggin. He's the best of the best. David n I saw a raised ahead when I was getting into David Lynch when I was much younger, and I was absolutely terrified and I didn't understand why. And I went, I remember Randa, I'm watching this is the scariest film I've ever seen, And she said why and I said, I don't know, Like I couldn't. I couldn't go oh, because this has happened. It was like if I described it, you go, that sounds ridiculous. Budge

of the Kid. This horror films driving me crazy. Why what is it? The pace, the pace, the tone, just the tone of it. I think there's an undercurrent base in the soundtrack. I don't know someone had the head chopped off. No, no, is there someone by the door, none of that. It's just kind of just slow in a way. I'd be like, yeah, I respect, I do respect kid. Yeah, this kid's not moving seats in their cinema. Look at wow. Do you know what I'm gonna say it?

Sue me. I'm gonna set up a cinema four kids, but they watch they watched classic horror, and the seats have seatbelts. Let's do like a ride, like a check the seat belt, lock them in, start the film. Yeah, I edit out some bits that I'm like, you can't show them that. But just like the weird you know, the weird log pad shots of stuff, I'm like, yeah, shove it. Let's teach them about cinema, Let's teach them about life and no moving in your seats on this business.

I really would. Yeah, well, you know, I remember, what's the film that you love? People don't like it, critics hate it, but you love it. You don't care. Well. I found this tricky because I like good films. Well, honestly, I was a snob as a kid. I was a snob and my mates that went, oh, that's a laughing at I'm I'm not doing that. I don't I'm sorry,

I don't do that. According to these lists, it's not there. However, having said that, me and my mate, and again this one was pretty tricky because I'm like, I haven't gone back to films that I remember being bad. I can't watch. I'm not one of these people that can go, oh, I can watch it so bad it's good. I'm just like, no, not having it. Having said that, my friend and I went to see Angels and Demons, and again this goes back to me talking about the religion stuff. I love

anything set in the Vatican. I love anything setting the Vatican. The two popes is unbelievable. I love it because I want to know, you know, like I said, brought up Catholic Church, you go to school and all that. I want to go there. And in the Angels and Demons,

he's running around in there, he's in the basement. And also I'm just obsessed with what the Vatican has, like it's got insane amounts of it's probably got the biggest art collection in the world, the most expensive of it's got artifacts from the history, from the past millenniums that are just priceless, and they're all in the vaults. And if you remember Angels and Demons, Hanks is running around the vault. I loved it. Helicopter at the end. Absolute crap,

absolute crap. I think that's a perfect completely rubbish. You've perfectly answered it. But on the other hand, what's the film that you used to love? You loved it and then you've watched it reasonly, but oh no, no, no, not for me. Well again, difficult. I've the way I've thought about this is what film was? What film that I watched when I was a kid? I went to the cinema and I left going, that's the greatest film of all time? Is now not the greatest film of

all time? The one I remember? The one I remember going, Well, if anyone asks me what I think the greatest film of all time is, it will be now this. I'd left the View cinema. No, it was Warner Brothers cinema at the time, early way. Yeah, yeah, that was a great cinema. Yeah it was. It was the remake A Star skin Hutch, great film, great film, Owen Wilson, the Ben Stiller, Yeah, to this, to this, well, I mean

that's the one. We do it right, do it? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, Well, I mean that's my answer because I'm going I remember how much I loved that film. It completely. I just remember going, well that it's just fun, just fantastic. And you know, there was a car park outside the cinema. Me and my mates are thinking about rolling around the cars, probably saying do it for about three months afterwards. Um, but you know, if I watched it now, I think

I'd be really I'd be probably so disappointed. But it still is incredible, so I knowing. So I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm wrong, but I reckon Brett. I don't think it's the best film ever made. What's the film that means the most to you? Jong Kens? The film might not be good, but the experience you had around seeing the film will always make it special to you. My friend, please tell us well this feel well again? You can't ignore the first thought that goes in your head.

I feel very fortunate to have nice memories of going to the cinema with my family or you know, friends and all that. But I remember seeing The Great Beauty with my love that my partner and we saw it in central London and then yeah, I think we've just started kind of going out and then we walked home because I think that film and just completely knocked us sideways. And the end of that film is just extraordinarily beautiful.

And I don't know again, it's how cinema, it's like how music just it's when it lands in your life. And that film is all about I think, lost youth and about do you know what. Actually, looking back at it now, I really think it must have been a huge influence on the latest series of White Lotus because it's in Italy and it's just this glam it's the glam life, but you know, it's very simply that's the facade.

You see the gorgeousness of Rome. But it's about this journalist called Jet who basically is getting older and even though he gets excited but I think a new job, he just realizes the futility of it all and he just thinks about lost love and his life and how the parties around him a meaningless And there's a moment where he looks up at a giraffe I think he's

got a mate who's about to become pope or something. Again, there's there's religion, and the guy lets him into this like special I can't remember exactly the detail, but he's got like this special key that can let him into special places in Rome. And he goes into this courtyard

and there's a giraffe and he I don't know. It's just so funny how a film you could watch, so many films set in space, like you know, you could watch, you could watch edited, but a film can be so beautiful that a bloke walking into a courtyard at nights in a giraffe can make you feel as though it's the first time you've ever seen a draffe and you see the beauty of a giraffe and and you know, and then you think of life. But then the end

is just extraordinary. It's like the end is like an Italian version of Bill Hicks's routine of that you know life is just a ride because he does it at the end. Is it just him saying life is a trick, It's a trick, it's a trick. And then he shuts his eyes and then there's absolutely incredible piece of music goes over the credits with a boat going down the river in Rome and the reason why, Yeah, I think we left the cinema. I'm with my partner, who I'm

who I am now have a child. We've been together nearly ten years, and it was that thing of I think it was quite You could probably say that film. Maybe I've got friends that would say that films may be pretentious, or they'd be like, yeah, of course you love that, you know, But we had this conversation. I think about life, about love, about what the film meant,

and I think that can be quite a romantic. And also when you find someone who you can talk to about movies where and not feel you know, so many of us have been in situations where you watch a film and someone says it's shit and you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. But when you find someone that you can basically be very pretentious with and ask the questions about life, that film did it, and you know what a beautiful

film is. Amazing soundtrack as well, incredible perfect I thank you relate to now yeah again, all right, this is again. This might be a bit pretentious here, but I did run it past Gabby and she went I kind of I see this, so I again going through, you know, the education of trying to understand film and cinema. I got into Terrence Davies stuff, so I ordered Distant Voices Still Lives on DVD and I watched that. That film

is absolutely mind blowing. The reason why I think it relates to me is it's about well, I don't think it. I don't think it relates to me. I think it relates to and it's particularly British this film, but I think the British way of life, family, life, death. It's set during the war. I was thinking about it, you know, know whing I was coming on this podcast. That film is just one of the greatest British films ever made. But I just remember being rocked by it. And it

wasn't that I felt I'd been seen. I just remember going, that's life. That is that his life ups and downs, life and death. And there's a lot of Catholicism in it as well. There's a lot of church going your stand up this show. I haven't seen your newest show or your last show, and it was very Now you say it, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's like a Terris David's film. It was very British in about life and a whole life basically is how I saw your last show.

Like like, well, I talk, I guess I talk about family, not in a particular kind of like broad strokes, and I think with his work or that film, he's so snapshots of a life. Yeah, I think there's all there's a running theme of a family having a picture in the living room over the period I think every ten years. So one picture, someone's not in that picture, then there's a couple, and then there's a marriage picture. Somebody dies

and the coffin pulls up. You could continually uses the motif of the front door being open and things passing it. I love I kind of remember even as a teenager, I couldn't really I don't really know what this says about me, but I loved films setting very domestic settings. I just I just went, yeah, this is my stuff, and you know, anything where master and commander I could handle because it was kind of domestic on a boat, yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, I just like kitchen sink stuff.

So I when I saw that film, the reason why I say it, you know, is because yeah, I just remember watching it going that is life. Yeah, it's ups and down and it's brutal. There are some scenes that are very hard to watch, but also the cinematography. There is a beautiful bit with umbrellas that looks exactly like that scene in Road to Petition where they're all running around with the umbrellas and yeah, where two of the

characters in the film fall through this glass roof. I mean, it's it's it is astonishing and it's very it's a film that's very close to me. Um. But again, I feel like the answer I've given is vague, but it's just something I feel. I don't think it's bag at all, And genuinely it's sort of made made me go oh right, yeah, because it is it has it reminds me of the standard, your standard. Well again like the Great Beauty. Yeah, phenomenal soundtrack, but I don't think that every Yeah, yeah, I love

the show. Great music, phenomenal soundtrack the beginning. What was that song you played before you came on? That was stunning? Ah, that was the high point. What what's the sexiest film you've ever seen? You disgusting pervert? Well, you know, I'm as a teenager when Channel five put out the erotic thrillers ten fifty five every Friday night. Yeah, it was a good time. It was a great it was busting boom. But uh no, I've been thinking about this a lot.

Bound phenomenal. The Witch housekis a lesbian thriller, sexy as fuck, oh my god, suspenseful, erotic. Well it's it's a great film. First off, again, you know you're I don't know how order was when I'm watching that, but it's sexy as hell. Yeah. Also, I kind of was thinking back about it. I was like, yo, I'm glad I found that film sexy because it's like, I don't think it's exploited in any way. I think it's quite but yeah, it's just sexy. Man. Yeah, I

just remember being like it was so sexy. I probably put my knoble way of respect. I'm like, no, you know what, this this is art. I need to not stand down. I know I promised you. I know that you heard a lot about this film, but no, this is sexty. I actually you know I want to watch this. What on the traveling Bane is worrying? Why Dad? What's

the film? You found a round thing that you weren't sure you should The thing is when you are fifteen and you're going through your dad's video drawer looking for anything. Oh look, I'm not gonna liear. You're looking for sex scenes in the house. I don't know how you're doing this. Are you're taking chance? How's it happening? We've never talked about it, and you know i'd been looking at you'd been looking for anything. This is pre Internet, by the way,

people listening going what the hell? Yeah? And the one which I try to think, is there anything here? Was a scene in Shakespeare in Love and they don't even show it. Gwyneth Paltrow's behind the door and the nurse is at the door like like raising her eyebrows. Right, the nurse is raising her eyebrows, and goth Paltrow goes a non kind nurse. I mean, i'd try to get someone out of that. Did you manage? Did you manage? Probably?

No good for you. It's like when you watched Confessions of a Window Cleaner and he'd be like all right, and then you know, you just see the guy's ass all the time. He's just running around naked up ladders and like, don't you see boobies in there? You see? Yeah, you do? But you see his he's always running around with his ass out. Yeah, it's mostly and then you know the husband comes in and he's out, he's jumping out the window. You're like this too, what's going on here? Yeah?

I follow him on to her. He's quite funny. But I also think your ass is the ass I've seen most in my life. I haven't seen my ask about I reckon. I've seen my ask over the course of my life. I think I've seen my ass. If you added it all up six minutes, that's so interesting and true. I'm looking at six. Yeah, I'm looking at five. Where you actually add a looking you've got all right, that's what it looks. Yeah, in your lifetime, six is massive.

And that's also a minute where you think somebody's wrong and you're really that's when you think you're dying in the shower. Yeah yeah, well I even then, I'm not looking at it. I mean, oh god, what is the objectively the greatest film of all time shining? Okay, yeah, you can have it. That film is not mucking around, it's not It's the film I've seen most in the cinema. I think I've seen about six times in the Cinema. There's a book that's just been written by Leon Critch

pictures with the extra pictures. Yeah, yeah, I really want it. And then I saw it cost fifteen hundred pound Are you serious? Yeah? I was looking at last week. I mean, he's what He's been writing this book for ten years, and I'm like, I love a book, not as much as you, But do you know what I think they're going to do? Do you remember the Kubrick Napoleon book

they released? Yeah? I think what they do is they issue a big one going right collector's item here, Yeah, and then they release they release like a thirty quid one for them. She just got to hang around a bit. It does seem a lot for a book. I know. Man, I was looking at it like even if I was like, even if I had the money, I'm going I don't know, but that film really it's one of my favorite films. Like I said, I just remember I took. I took

a girlfriend at the time. She hadn't seen it, and I was like, you know, when you're showing off films, You're like, you got to see this thing. Anyway, the credits came up at the beginning and it went Jack Nicholson, and she leant over to me and went, god, I hate Jack Nicholson. Oh, And I was like, I mean there were two things going. I was like, wow, what if you knew you see the shining? How the hell have you got to this point and not no knees

in it? And secondly, I mean, this is full lawn, Janni, this is gonna sement everything you think about I sort of also, never in my life heard anyone say they hate said, well, I'm surprised you didn't get rid of her on the spot. I see the shining, she says, I hate Jennings got yeah, maybe I shouldn't have done that, walked off. Yeah, but no, just break my heart. I'm sorry.

Slap on remains of the day doesn't sound she was the way No, no, gods, okay, but that film is cr That film is absolutely absolutely objectively Yeah, that's where I'm going, That's where you get the lists out, that's where you go, right, what is happening it? And that breckers My god, that is unbelievable. I don't still don't quite understand whenever I read about him ninety takes or whatever. And the only reason it bothers me is as someone who you know has has done a bit on both

sides of it. Editing. When you're in the edit watching ninety options would drive you fucking insane. I'm like, don't give me ninety. Give me ten maximum maximum, otherwise we're never going to finish before I got to go way through ninety takes on every single angle it is. I mean, no, wonder these films took so long? Yeah? No, I mean sorry, Can I just see another take? Which one at which? Which of the eighteen ninety? Want to check? Oh? No,

he's watching unless onset. He goes, that's the one. But sometimes that happens and then you get in the edit and you go, actually, it's not quite the one. Can I have a look at the other? Eating name? What must the editor must have been like, are you fucking joking? Stanley? Was he trying to tap into the clowning kind of thing?

You know, clowning is showing your real self? I believe I've read various things that sometimes it was like the actors wouldn't know their lines, So the first ten takes was the actor learning their lives and done their homework. Then it was the actor is acting. Then if you keep pushing through. Eventually they stopped doing the thing that they were doing. Then you keep pushing through and something else happening, something else happens, which means in theory he

only cares about the last five takes or whatever. But I still go from experience. Sometimes you're on setting, you that's the take, and you make a note of it, and then you're in the editor you go, oh, it isn't quite the take for whatever reason, might not be lit right, there might be something slightly off with the camera, you know. So you then do have to watch the other takes, and in the end you always end up looking back at the other takes. He's got to do

ninety takes every shot. What is the film you could or have? What's the most over and over again? Well again the Shining, Well it's The Shining, or it's Good Fellas, or it's The Couple Billy Wilder. Yeah, you can whack his film on any and you can warn any one of his films on anytime. I went through a phase where I was buying all of his movies and watching them, and my god, I mean, you know, I think I've probably seen The Apartment quite a few times as well.

You just you just they're just gems, like they're works of again, going back to what that kind of that domestic side of things that I just kind of latch onto. It's a question for you that I was thinking when he said this. I've been trying to I've been formulating this in the back of my mind since you said this,

A few questions back. Do you think you're you're the reason you like the domestic stuff, the kitchen sink stuff, because what's different is it basically comes down to do you do you want cinema for escapism people go and see Star Wars as escapism I want to get away from my life? Or do you want cinema to go what is life? What is this? What is this that I'm experiencing? What is around me? Right, I'm not kind of kind of I'm not running out. I like that.

But again, this is kind of where maybe earlier on I was like, I'm seeing the connection here with religion in that. Yeah, I like cinema that just asks the big questions yea, and tries to answer it in some way or tries to show it through a relationship or you know whatever, whatever whatever the film's about. But um, yeah, escapism. No, I don't really. I mean, it's another thing to say, you know, like, you know, I'm not a llegit Hotel Budapest toy story. I'm there. I'm like row, I'm saying

that was a fantastic movie. I'm buzzed on the way home. But you know, I like, yeah, the big questions, I like leaving, you know. And again I've got mates that leaves Cindhema's going, what the fuck was that about? Fuck that. I'm just sat there going, no, you don't understand. No one has the answer to life. But that took me a step further in my kind of in my understanding. There is another answer coming up. We're going we get Okay, we'll do that. Yeah, we'll be quick because it's negative.

What's the worst film you've ever seen? Well, from the sublime to the ridiculous? Because they directed this as well. Again, I don't know if it was the worst film I've ever seen, but I remember going, I fell asleep, I thought about leaving. Matrix reloaded the Matrix reloaded the newest one, No number three, number three. Okay, now again I get so that's my memory, right, Yeah, I looked it up and it's not regarded as a terribly bad film. I think I remember liking it more than the second one.

But when I went to watch Matrix rebooted or whatever it's called, the newest, it's very strange, the new one, very strange and surprising. But when I to watch it, I watched one of those the Matrix Trinity in five minute things to remember the case. I was like, do I need to remember exactly? And I watched this and I was like, I don't understand any of this very confusing world. No, but this is it. This goes back

to my earlier answer. You know, if I'm going, oh, yeah, Brett, I like her distant voices, still lives, I'll tell you what I like. I like a film setting a kitchen. If I'm then going to watch a Matrix to reload it, yeah, it's just not for me. It's just not my taste asking the big questions about life and exists. Well, but in a way you that scares it people chatting about

it in a kitchen. I actually I want people chatting about it in a situation where I'm like, yeah, they know how to work the oven, they know that the taps work, they know that there's fridge whatever in matrix.

I'm going, yeah, well you're asking about what life is, mate, But I'd love to know how you open that window because it looks like you've got to press four fucking buttons and slide something under something like you're yeah, they're not even in a spaceship, they're none know what they're in. You're sleeping in fluid. That seems in practical Yeah, yeah, and I like, you know, two people in a brass bed, you know, Charlie Chocolate and Charlie Chocolate. That was the

sexiest ever. So wow, Charlie the Chocolate Factory, Charlie Chocolate. Charlie is the great character. Charlie Chuck. It's me Charlie Chocolate. Have you found the Golden Penny? Oh god, Charlie Chocolate. We're off to see Charlie Chocolate. Kids. No please, God No, So you don't like Charlie Chocolate and Willie I do. It starts as a kitchen syncraving. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I know what I'm doing. They're all in the bed, they're all like, they're all in this little house. I'm like, brilliant,

and then it goes off. Then it goes escapes in but it starts in real sky. With that gently guys your hands, we can have a bit of fano. We saw you the kids and everything works. We ain't got enough money to pay it for the gas, but if we did, the oven works. Now we're just going on a little like a kite. You know, it's roots so you know, I can see who's old in the kite, but I can also look up and enjoy the spectacle.

Love it. If people listening to this going, mate, just go watch a BB film and chill out for three hours. What's the film that made you laugh the most, you Fanny bastard. Okay, again, I've tried to avoid obvious for you because I'm thinking this guy must get answers all the time, and also you might be answering. You might also. I thought, in your position, you must have to ask,

You must have to ask this question. And even though you say try and think outside the box, people go bang, and you've got to be like, I don't know this guy well enough to question them on it. So look, I'm going to go obviously. Dumb and Dumber is incredible. That's a funny film. Four Lions made me piss myself but I'm going to go for Waiting for Government, Okay, Christopher Guest improvised amateur dramatics. Fred Willard, that film is so funny he is. I mean, Fred Willard is insane,

like you're just like funny he is. He's like, God, that is a film I love, you know, you know, when you know people would love it and they haven't seen that, and you go, oh my god, I want you. I want to sit next to you and watch you watch this. And then they sit there and the opening credits happened, they lean across the game. I hate Fred Willard. I ate cinema. You don't have to sit here and watch it, do we? Yeah, that's cinema. I ate cinema. Oh,

for God's say, you're thirty. What's wrong with you? I'm gonna damp you in a week? Oh god, oh god, it's respect to be fun Fred Willard, it's funny. I just look at him, just look at him. He doesn't know what's about to go out of his mouth. Oh man, all of I mean, all of those films bested show, but yeah, the one that I remember when I remember seeing Waiting for golfment and just again, it's that you know you have it with movies where you leave and you go, I need to get a script, I need

to get a book. I need to somehow hold this. And that's why you know, with I guess a lot of people feel it. With streaming and even with music and stuff, you don't. You don't have that tangible, physical kind of But when you got that DVD of saying like Waiting for Gofman Or you just devoured it. You're like, God, this is so good. Yeah, what a film, funny film.

Jim Kaines, you've been truly magnificent on this. However, if I may when you were eighty three years old and you were in the chapel in Parliament and it was high Mass. We're talking purple, we're talking smoke, We're talking the whole show, big show of curtains. It's Easter Sunday. Jesus is coming back. People have heard rumors, you had that rumor. Don't want him to be a footnote. Jesus

is coming back, and you're there. You're excited. You love all this, you love the pageantry, you love the show. And Jesus goes to himself, well it's one in, one out. And if I'm coming back. I've got to take one of these out. Who in this room doesn't believe in God? Ah, there he is, he sees you. He has you killed. You keel over, fall over the front of you dead. But are you dead? No, you can't be, because you're

in Parliament. I'm walking by with a coffee. You know what I'm like, It says anyone seen John Kurzy go, yeah, he's lying very still, And I goes again and they go, no, no, they all look scared because Parliament. No, he's not dead. He's just being very still. And I go, he's not breathing, right, They go, just take him outside, take him outside, and we're all get killed. So I drag you, the lord that that kid's daddy goes taking that side, or you'll lose our fucking jobs. Drag you. I drag you out

into the street. And then I go, oh, I think he is dead. Now I've got him in the sunlight. I think he is dead. Anyway, I've got to get you in this coffin, but the coffin on the right side, because you've put on a bit of timber in the last years. So I'm having to chop you up, chop chop chopping up, choping out. You give me an ax, He goes, yeah, yeah, chop cho chopping up into a little bit stuffy in the coffin. I just say the people listening, he's not reading this. Just for anyone listening.

Brett doesn't read this. This is just coming out of his head, right, Get you in, Get your in the coffin stuffed him in. It's Frank, there's only rumin his coffin to slip one DVD in the side with you to take to the other side. And on the other side, it's movie night every night in book Heaven. What film are you shake taking to show the book people of Book Heaven in the book library, in the book screening poll on the book seats when it is your movie night.

John Kearns legend, I think the film that I'd like to be slipped into my coffin Broye for you know, every question could be you know, I could have ten answers to every one of your questions, but the one that remains magical. And when I was going through the list, I went bug on me that film was superb. The great beauty, wonderful, wonderful answer, wonderful man. What would you like to tell people to look out for, or to listen to, or to read in the coming times. Don't

like what of your own stuff? Flog my talk? Sorry I was thinking. I was like, well, I could recommend them. No, Well, I'm I'm on tour Brett and it starts in London and February twenty twenty three and it ends in London actually on during the second at the Bloomsbury Theater. I'll be up and down the country all around. I might

be adding some extra dates. But if anyone wants to come along, it's John Kern's comedy dot co dot uk because a friend of mine brought John Kerns dot co dot uk and then I forgot he'd done that until I registered the other one. So there we go. I have heard your new show is incredible. I've heard that from a lot of reputable sources. Actually, well, well it's as you know, you just keep your head down and run towards the day that it's released out into the world.

So I've still got a month and a half to work on it, and I'm very happy with where it is. But at the same time, as I was saying, you know, at the beginning of this podcast. You just got to keep making it as good as it can be. So yeah, no rest you on any laurels yet, but I'm more than happy about it. Yeah, come along. I'd love to see people there, but for God's sake, do not mention the little secrets. So that's your cares. Thank you so much. You've been really fucking brilliant. I hope you have a

wonderful death. Good day. Thank you for having me. So that was episode two hundred and thirty one. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com. Forward slash Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets and videos with John. Go to Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating. But right about the film that means the most of you and why my name is Maurin likes wadding it and it'd be very nice thing to do for it, and God knows she deserves it laugh

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