Joey King • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #189

I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Mark Frost, Jamila Jamil, Sharon Stone, James a Caster, and even ped Campbell's. But this week it is the amazing actor and all around superstar Joey King. Get over to the Patron at patron dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra twenty minutes of chat with some funny stuff

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Joey King is an extraordinary actor who's been working since she was four. She's appeared in everything from The Conjuring to The Dark Knight Rises, to the Act to The Lie and soon she can be seen in Bullet Train with Brad Pitt and The Princess. I've never met her before. The first time I met her was on the Zoom when we recorded this and she was a true delight. She was funny, she was brilliant. Some of the best dancers we've ever had on this. I think you're really

gonna love this one. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and eighty nine of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by an actor, an award winner and power player, a most Important Person under twenty, a Most Important Person under thirty, a award winner, a nominee, a Dark Knight riser actor, a liar and a conjurer, and a bullet trainer, and a princess. I

can't believe she's here. Please run into the show. Is the brilliant it's Jerry King. Thank you so much? What an intro? A liar and under twenty? When when was I lying? And when was I named under twenty? Well? I was looking at your your CV, which is ridiculous. I mean, you've got seventy seventy jobs there? Do I? Yeah, you according to your CV. Unless it's a lie, is it? I don't think it's lying. I don't know you've done seven You've done seventy jobs and you're six years old.

It's an extraordinary But the thing that's most interesting looking at it, there is a theme that you've done a thing called the lie, You've done a thing called the act, You've done a thing called the conjuring. I'm starting to think you can't be trusted, Joey King. I'm starting to think that I always have to have a bun in front of my projects, the frauds, some things up. Also, you've been in The Conjuring and Dark Knight Rises, two absolute bangers, And I don't know. In Conjuring, what were

you in the country. I love the country. I was one of the sisters in the family that's being haunted by the by the ghost, the spirits, the demons, the scaries. How was it to film a film like that where you have to up and things are happening? Is it hard today? So I've actually filmed a lot of scary movies in my life, but I it's not very scary to film a scary movie. But filming The Conjuring was scary.

I don't know how to explain it. Like that movie really like I love it, Like God, bless that movie. It's amazing. Well, actually that's a weird thing to say, because that's still but well, like, bless that movie and keep us safe. But um, that movie, in the way that it was supposed to traumatize audiences, also traumatized me a little bit. It really really scared me. And I was third. I was twelve when I made that movie. I'm twenty two now and I still think about that

movie on a regular basis. And how much it scares me. Like I can't think about the Witch, not character because like apparently she's real. I can't think about her without just like setting myself into like cold sweats and like freaking out. Like I really that movie really messed me up in a way of like when I watched it, especially but the scene that I the big scene that I had where like I get yanked off the bed

by my leg. After I filmed the movie, I had to sleep with a pillow at the bottom of my bed for six months, as if that would stop you know, a spirit. But like that was what I did because I was so freaked out. You know. I really love about that is a lot of people who are scared of horror films, they go like, oh, one way, I like stop myself being scared as I imagine how it was filmed, and then it stops me being scared. I just think, well, it's a camera that you were making

that film and it scared you. So no one's safe, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't the environment. Like everyone was amazing. James Juan was our director. He was the best, Like everyone was so nice. We had a lot of fun making it. But like weird things happened on set, and it was just like sure, I'm actually going to tell you by the way, this was, even though it may seem narcissistic, it was the answer to what movie scared you the most? Are we jumping the head? Should

we save this? Then? Okay, we could save it. I'll save it. I'll say, oh no, I mean listen, don't let me ruin any flow. I'm really excited to hear this. But now I'm kind of like people are going, when did we get to the guys stories? So maybe well we'll just we'll just we'll know that this is the answer to the number two and I'll tell you the

story now. But um, okay, I had you know in the movie when like the mother starts to develop all these like bruises on her body, because it's like a phase of when the ghost starts to possess to you, I guess. Um, So during around those times we're filming those specific scenes, I'm starting to like notice I had

these huge bruises on myself. Um, but in like this bizarre places like um, like on my chests, like right here, or like on my stomach or like on my back, like just places where it wasn't like you know, you bump a table and your hip gets a bruise, or you fall on your knee and you got bruises. It was like these large, grotesque, like angry bruises and spots that just like makes sense. And my mom took me to the doctor because she was like, maybe you're like

a kneemach or something like who knows what's happening. Of course they saw the bruises. The doctor pulled me aside and was like, does your mother abuse you? And I was like no, like I don't know what's going on. She brought me here for these bruises. Please. Anyway, we found out through like blood tests that my platelet count, well, your plate counts supposed to be like between I think three hundred thousand and five hundred thousand and blood platelets.

Mine had like depleted down to like five thousand. Like I was at such a high risk of internal bleeding. It was like out of nowhere. I've never had problems like this before. And so for the next couple months while shooting the movie, I would have to go to the hospital before work and after work to get my blood taken to test if my platelets were going back up or going back down. They wanted to do blood transfusion, and my mom said, what if her body rejects the blood.

I don't want her doing that, Like, let's just try to build it up on her own. I had to get like a special note from the doctor to bring to set to like tell them how limited my action can be, Like I couldn't do certain scenes that that had been written in because I was so weak. And so for a couple of months, every day I went to the hospital got tested. You know, my platelets would like creep up a little bit and then creep back down.

So I got home after the movie thinking I was going to have to continue with this, you know, going to the hospital thing, like I think the second blood test I had when I got home, my platelets were completely back to normal. And I've never had a problem

since that, and it really really freaked me out. Oh my god, I've never ever had it was a it was a blood disorder called it TP, and I've never had a trace of anything wrong with my blood before that incident or since I actually donate my blood, Like my blood's great internal terrible phantom? Is that what it stands for you would possess. That's amazing And you just came up with that on the spot. That's so funny.

Oh my god, you were haunted making the country like that whole story, Like everyone knew about it on set, like everyone knew what was happening, and everyone was like pretty like spooked by it. I remember, like Patrick Wilson and Vera Formega were like very um that that story and what was happening to me while shooting. Everyone was pretty on edge, honestly, Yeah, you know, there's a story.

I think about this a lot. When the film The Passion of the Christ was being made, Jim Jim Covizio, Jim, who was playing Jesus Christ was on the cross and got struck by lightning, I believe more than twice. Now, don't you think we should probably stop making this film where I'm Jesus because God don't seem happy about it, do you know what? Oh my god? I am like,

I'm shocked right now? Are you serious? I'm serious? He talks about it on a Chack said like yeah, I'm like, I mean you shut down, you shut down your God film the day you get struck by learning on the set of your good film. You stopped making your good films, aren't you? That's what I would say, But you kept you You had internal terrifying phantom. I mean, I didn't get I didn't get punished by God himself for making a God movie, but something close to it. I got

punished by some demons. I guess, I don't know. I was so so freaked out, and especially because it wasn't it didn't like if it happened to someone else, I would have been so freaked out too, But it was happening to me, and I was like, I simply am too afraid. I mean, also, like, what a commitment. That's real method acting. You got possessed about making the country, I mean huge respect. It was all a plan, you know, I like really like I just wanted to dive so

deep into making. That's fucking scary. Man. I have a question for you. Yeah, listen, we've hung out a very short period of time, but you already seemed very cool and well adjusted. Now you started acting at four, right, I did, how come you're how come? How come I'm

not mad? That's a good question, you know. I think that it's interesting, right because I feel like a lot of people get a sour taste in their mouth with just like the term child actor and like just like the association with people going mad, as you say, and it's true. I mean, like it's it's a really scary thing because you are surrounded by adults. You're in this

adult world from such a young age. But I think that what is the difference and what's the key element in staying grounded or just staying normal and just feeling like you have a normal life is your family. And I was lucky enough to have a family that was like, you're a kid first, you're an actor as well, but that's like the way my family made me you acting, And my mom especially was like this is something that I liked to do, and if I stopped liking to

do it, I wasn't going to be doing it. And like so going on set for me wasn't it didn't

feel like work as a child. It was more like I get to go hang out with all these adult friends that I love and I had like they're so sweet, and it really just like, you know, I was in situations and I have had opportunities that you know, you can put yourself on a really bad path and a really bad road, and like you're presented with these moments and you're like you have to just kind of shut yourself down and be like, this is not what I

want to choose. Like I want to have like a happy life, a normal life, a life who I'm close to my family. But like, as you get a little bit older and you're in these situations and you go to these parties and you are around these people, those opportunities do present themselves. But I feel like I was raised in a really healthy way where I feel like I was equipped to make those decisions in the moment. So I think that's why I'm not mad. Amazing answer, really,

really amazing. I just checked my notes as well, and having heard the answer, I feel sick about this. Oh no, I've forgotten to taste hunting. And it's such a shame. It's such nah, it's really it makes me sick, actually, but oh god, I should have No. I mean, I'm glad we had the conversation we had because maybe it would have gone differently had you known this. But I'll just say you've died. You're dead, dead shit dead shit, I know. And listen, you'd had a solid career. Let's

be honest, you've done seventy things. That was enough. I guess. I mean, I don't even know what a legacy means, but I guess I have one. You got you did, you did, you had, you had a good run, but the house a legacy anyway, Yeah, did it matter? Tell me? How did you? How did you die? Joki? Well, it was a cold Los Angeles day. Let's see here I was.

You know what I was doing. I was putting up my my Christmas lights, even though I'm Jewish and I love Christmas, celebrate Christmas in March because and that's the reason I died, Because the universe was like, you deserve to die if you're putting up your Christmas lights in March. And so I was putting up some lights around my house, right and then, um, just like our friend Jesus Christ,

I got electrocuted and I fell off my ladder. But it was a quick death, and um, the coyotes found me, so my family didn't have to find me, and they ate me, and so I nourished the world as the world has nourished me. Did your family know you're dead, because if there was no trace of you took you away? Did they just think you've got miss it, you've gone. No, because that would be really that would be too much emotional turmoil if they just thought I was missing. I

think that there was. I think they left half of my face so that they know I'm fully gone. Yeah. But but the coroner's report deduce that I was in no pain when I died, and that the coyotes ate me, and that no one killed me. Did the lightning kill you or the foe? It was that? No, you're thank you for clarify, because yeah, no, it was the electric charge of the Christmas lights that I got from Costco, And so I'm suing Costco. Just kidding. I love Costco.

I've got a membership. Thanks Cosco. Costco. If you're listening, I just wanted to I really love you, love your pizza. Please, You're the best. You're the best. This is just like a hypothetical death right. You'd never kill me. I just don't want to buy Clericon and bull for every couple of months. Sounds like you're being held hostage by cos I'm worried about this god that we that we've discussed

in today's episode that strikes down. Jim Kis of Visibio for making a film he didn't like, and you for you don't mind you celebrating Christmas, but he does mind it at the wrong time of year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's like, it's March. It's like twelve days of Christmas, twelve days or ever you put away the lights, you just put them away otherwise I'll get you like I got Jim Convisibil so scary? What what a vengeful? I mean? This is some real old Testament got here. But I

also really keeping tabs on the diates? What do you think? What do I feel about God? Thank you for us? Uh? Is there one? I don't know? I don't know. Well, what do you think happens when you die? Okay? So for me, I don't know. I feel like I like the idea I think and and correct me if i'm if I'm wrong. But I feel like I learned this when I was young. I'm not very religious at all. I'm I grew up my mom's Jewish, my dad's not,

but I always gravitated more towards Judaism. Um it just meant more to me, Like I just feel a really in deep spiritual connection to Judas are more than like a religious one. But I feel like there's part of me that's like, oh, there's nothing, like nothing happens, like we die and like nothing happens. But then there's also part of me that's like, what if we just come back?

Like what if we keep being recycled? And then there's a story that my grandmother told me, and my mom told me as well that when I was a little girl. I have no recollection of this. I was two years old when I said this to them. I don't I didn't have my first memory yet. They told me when I was a little bit older that when I was two years old, I told my mom and by the way, I'm named after my grandfather, Joseph. He passed away about

a few years before I was born. And I told my mom that in a life, in one life before this one, I was her dad, and I said that I was two, and then I said it in another life before that one, I was her aunt. And so I don't have any memory of saying this. I don't

also have any memory of the past life. But I kind of feel like I don't know if I believe in reincarnation, But how beautiful would it be if we come back as people like as just a different form of someone that other people had loved before in our families. I think that's so beautiful. I think. I think you've got it right, Jai King. I think that is what happens. You think so, I mean I love that thought. Well,

I think so, and I think it. You know, there's if you don't remember this right, you don't remember telling your your mom there. But there's a thing, well I read this. I don't know. Let's assume it's true. I read it somewhere that most people don't. You don't develop memories till you're about three. Because when you start developing memories is when you can tell a story, when you have the actual sort of sentence structure of a story. Is when your brain starts retaining stuff because you can

tell yourself that story. But the stuff that's happening before that, I reckon is when you're still many cells and then you start to sort of solidify into your person at three. I really like that, I really really and also like, on a little bit of a darker note, I think, like I think it might be why like this is a joke that I feel like a lot of people know, and like I also make myself. I'm like, you know, like as a Jewish person, I've got a lot of

stomach problems. Like I feel like I'm just always like

have a stomach problem. But then I was kind of thinking about it, and and I was like dissecting this with my beyonce it and I was like, and I think I also read this somewhere could be untrue, but like it would make sense if we do come back as people who are familiar with ourselves, like you know, insane families and stuff, because I think that why a real reason that a lot of Jewish people do have genuine stomach problems is from like any ancestry trauma, historical trauma,

and I think that like it just materialized in a way where like we just have like nervous stomachs all the time. And I actually like it sounds kind of funny, but I actually think it might be true, Like it makes a lot of sense. And I read that somewhere as well, and I was like, you know, like that that doesn't shock me like at all, because like why do we all have ideas and it all makes sense now.

January Jones friend did the podcast January Jones. When she was on the podcast told me a story that when she gave birth to her son, she pulled him out of her and looked him in the eye and thought, you are my granddad. Oh my god, it's beautiful see each other before they looked at each other. It's like, here we are again. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's what.

That's what. Like that story, and like what I told my grandmother and my mom when I was a kid, It's just like, how can you especially when a child, a small child, says I've never heard of reincarnation in my life. I don't have a memory yet. It's like, how can you not like take that as like a sign of something more it might be happening. Maybe it's not like I don't know what I believe truly, Like I don't know. I don't I don't pray, I don't go to temple or church. I just I just feel like, hey,

maybe there's something more going on here. I don't really know if heaven or Hell is the thing, but you know, I do like the idea that something is bigger than us. Well, I got news for you, Joey King. There's a stopoff point you come back to heaven for a bit before you decide to come back and raise your parents. They're very excited to see you in heaven, very excited, big fans of all your work. Everyone here is oh seventy they did a marathon. It took them five weeks to

watch everything you've ever done and with no gaps. And are you there as well? By the way, like I'm I'm on the door. You're the welcome committee. Yeah, yeah, I'm on the door. Check check checking your idea and stuff. See if there's anything. Yeah, yeah, with you, we really have to check out that. Well, she's done so much stuff. He's probably about fifty. Let's letter in what what? What? It filled me? Your favorite thing? Though? What's your favorite thing? Man?

My favorite thing? Like it has been sing not a person like a thing. It's whatever. It could be cheese could be a person. What's your favorite I'm gonna narrow it down to not people, because then I'm like, oh God, like everyone's everyone. If anyone listens to this, you know, Grandma's gonna be pissed. Mom Ben, Everyone's like, why didn't you say me? I'm gonna go a thing here, I'm gonna go. I really love brisket slooked for like fourteen hours. Okay,

I don't know if you'll regret that choice. Is basically, your heaven is made of slow cooked brisket, the wolves brisket, I mean comfortable seats. I always said that if I was on death row, my last meal would be my grandmother's brisket with a peanut butter milkshake for a dessert. So I'm okay with that. Well, everything is made of brisket. You're sitting on brisket, the wolves of brisket. The floor's brisket,

Your bed is brisket. You know, when you say a word over and over again, starts to just sound like a noise and not a word. That's what's happening when you say brisket, brisket. Brisket is a brisket. Brisket's brisket and the brisket mom's brisket sweater all over his brisket. Brisket, brisket, brisket brisket. But in this brisket they are obsessed with films.

They won't know about your life, but through the medium of brisket films, And the first thing they ask you is what is the first film that you remember seeing? Jolly King? Well, speaking of first memories, I was about three years old. It was a movie. It was a TV movie, and I think it was called Haunted, but I'm not sure. I remember the setting too. I had just come home from gymnastics class. I was wearing a purple leotard with a butterfly on the front that had

a tool too too. And I came home and me and my middle sister Hunter were on the couch together and this TV movie called Haunted was on. It was the first movie I remember seeing. This first scary movie, if I remember seeing it was the first anything I remember. Even watching this movie, I think set the tone for why I really am just so scared of horror movies throughout my entire life now. Like, and it was so

poorly made. It was such a bad, bad movie. It was like there was a scene where this woman was in the kitchen and then she walked out of the kitchen, and then she came back in the kitchen and all the cabinets were open, and that was like the climax scare like and it was just so bad. And I was like the cabinets opened on their own. And I was like three years old, and I just remembered this movie like ingrained in my brain. I was so scared.

My mom came home that day and I was like crying, and my sister got in trouble and she was like, why did you let your sister watch this movie? Like my sister was like I didn't know, Like I like it was just on TV, and like I didn't know would scare that bad? Like whatever, And I just like I just don't. I can't get over every detail of that day, Like I'll never forget what I was wearing. I'll never forget her getting in trouble, and I'll never forget that stupid cabinet scene. And I don't even know

if it was called Haunted. I think candy. It was pretty poorly done, practical effect. You three sisters, three sisters. I'm the baby, there's middle Hunter and then there's oldest Kelly. Yeah, super tight, like super they're very close in age. I was a big shock at the end. I'm like six and seven years apart from them. It shooks nice way of putting it. Yeah, my mom straight it was like, oh shit, but we're super duper close. I like hearing that. Do you did you think I want to be on

something like this? Or do you just remember being scared? That was not the film that inspired my acting career. That's that inspired my fear of of life. Really instill the there's ghosts everywhere and I'm not safe, That's what That's what it fall like. So was that I also could it could also not be called haunted. I just don't fully remember whether you've just made up the title. It might have been an advert. What is the What is the film that made you cry the most? Joey King?

Are you a crying? I'm gonna throw a little bit of a curveball here. I have two answers, really, but I'm going to give the one that I'm most recently balled at. Um. I don't know how to pronounce his last name necessarily, but I think it's Derek dal Guadio, his in and of itself documentary film thing. Did you watch that? In end of it? So? Oh, is this the are you talking about the magician guy? I am? Have you seen that? No, it's it's never been available where I am, and I really want to see it.

Tell me it's made by Frank Cars, right, I think? So? Yeah, it's a really really special film. It is like like sobbing, just so beautiful, like so impactful. It's like it's magic on crack. But like so I feel like he really he really gets you into it. He really blows your mind a couple of times, and then it gets like so emotional and so personal and like he's such a performer. It's like amazing, it's he. I was so shocked by how much that film moved me, Like I was. I was.

I heard a recommendation from a few friends watched this movie it's like really cool about Magee, but it's really emotional, and I was like, that's magic, sure, but I it like really really was so deeply moving. So I highly recommend that. But the first film I think I ever really bawled at as a as a kid that also like was kind of life changing for me as far as my connection to like Pets was Marley and Me.

I also want to I want to preface this inner you a little bit with the fact that like you're gonna hear some answers today, but yeah, so I want to preface this though, like growing up my family, I am a late in life movie lover, like and late in life. I'm still I'm twenty two I'm still very young, but based on growing up, I didn't grow up with great movies really necessarily. We were allowed to go to Walmart and pick movies out from the five dollar bin,

one each, and that was like our special thing. Like we didn't get to have a lot of movies. So I had this big what do you call it, like a big folder, like a big like zip up folder DVDs, like over one hundred DVDs of just like Walmart five dollar bin movies. And that's what me and my sisters grew up on. So my knowledge of film has a

little stunted initially, I think has grown. So a lot of my answers are very You're like, okay, like that's really what impacted you the most, Like all right, but this is what I grew up on is what I had, So like I didn't have. I had Walmart five dollars been movies, and that's what I got. That's great, Listen that they exist for they exist for someone, you know what I mean, Like if they affected you, that's beautiful.

That's why I have never seen I've never seen most of anyway, the Disney Princess movies because those were a little too expensive. They were like the thirteen dollars movies. They were not in the five dollar been So I never saw Cinderella, I never saw a Sleeping Beauty. I never saw any of those, so which really surprises people. But I still haven't seen them. Yeah, well, you've got a lot to look forwardy. All right, So we are at the question what is the film that scared you

the most? I think The Country, given that it actually physically haunted you, is a is a pretty solid answer. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with that one. That I mean, I could say it's yeah, it's definitely. I think that I've pretty much avoided a lot of serious scary movies since that. I've seen, like some that were really scary, like I've seen The Baba Duck, I've seen you know, Evil Dad, I've seen Blair which product, But like those were all like not by choice. Like I don't like scary movies.

I don't like watching them. I don't like the way they make me feel. I don't like being scared. It's not something I seek out, that's for sure. Okay. Also, yeah, the Country made you physically Elso it's a really good answer, probably the best answer we've had to that question. Oh thank you, Oh my god, that sus You know. I'm glad my illness serve me. Well today? What is the film most people don't like? It's not critically acclaimed, but

you love it unconditionally? Okay, I mean I have a lot a movie that I love that is not critically acclaimed but I love unconditionally. Is Stepbrothers that movie? I mean? Actually, no, that is critically claimed. No. Sorry, Major Pain, I think is the one that's my answer to this one. That's my answer to this question. Yeah, stepbrother is another question. Major Pain? Is that Damon Ways? Yeah, yes, I think so, that movie. Like I like Blew Out Our Disk. That's

how many times I've watched a movie. Major Pain is one of mine and my sister his favorite movies in the freaking world. I can quote every single line of that movie. My group chat with my sisters is called Little Patch of Brussels Sprouts because there is important in that movie where he is he forced the cadets to bury themselves in soil and just their heads are pokingon he's watering them and he's you know, punishing them. I

don't remember why. And then he goes, all right, my little patch of Brussels sprouts up, brooch yourselves and then they all get out of the they worm there and it just like every part of that movie is so like, why is it so funny? It's so funny, and it's so like not a movie that people will talk about all the time. It's just great. It's the first time Major Pain has come up, and I love it and I'm going to give you twenty points for that is

the first time it's come on. It's the first time anyone has mentioned in Major Pain at it a disgrace. It's taken this in films to be buried with no one. I'm talking about that anger of a movie. Thank you Joey King for finally bringing it Major Pain. I think that's why you've made this podcast, so someone to talk

about Major Pain. Bring back Major Pain, so bad Pain will be the It's a Wonderful life for forty years time where people be like, people didn't talk enough about it at the time, and now it's an absolute classic. It's so it's so funny, like it it has no business being so funny. It's ridiculous. It's just hilarious. It's very rude, it's very rude. What's the film that you used to love but you've watched recently and you don't

love so much anymore for whatever reason that might be. So, as I said this big folder of DVDs, I was thinking about this question real hard, and I called my sister Kelly, and I was like, Okay, what's a movie that we really like, just loved and if we watched it today just like would not hold up. And then we both settle on Jack Black and Gwyneth Paltrow's movie Shallow Hell that movie. Have you seen that movie? That is a troubling, troubled movie. That movie was so great

to me when I was a kid. That movie is so problematic. Oh my goodness. So that is definitely a movie that you know you're you're a little kid, you have no sense of what's right and wrong really, and then you get older and you're like, oooh, I love that movie. But also that that movie is the ultimately

we listen. I must have said this on the podcast one hundred Episodes a guy, So forgive me, but it's a total paradox that makes no sense to that film because the message of the film is looks don't matter, but to express it, he has to see her as Gwyneth Poutrow, so that like it doesn't make any sense. The film is at odds with itself. That's the thing. I like the message. I think that's like they were trying to go for a message there. But I think

maybe that's that message. They might have like come up with that impressed because they realized they made such a problematic movie and they're like, oh shit, we have to say that a message to the film. What do you hope people take away? I don't know. Looks don't matter. It's like, wait a minute, but you just made a movie about it. It It looks like the only thing that mattered. Yeah,

it's wild. That film really wild. You know that question by the way, when you're doing press for like I've done this a couple times for a movie that like for movies that are I think are good and stuff, but like, to me, there's not really a message you take away from this movie. And then the interviewer like, so what do you helpe people take away from this? And you're like, I don't know. I hope they were entertained. Yeah. No, Sometimes I'm just like I don't know, man, thanks for asking,

but I don't know. My dog just popped into the room too, The Foxhound Pounds of pure Love, Jesse, Jesse James, tell me this, what is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience you had around and seeing the film that will always make it special to you. Joey King, I'm very excited to answer this question because I've got an answer that's unexpected. But it's definitely not about the

movie itself. When I was growing up, Hunter middle sister, middle sister, Hunter, middle sister, every time a Disney Channel or original movie premiered on Disney Channel, Hunter and I would set up a little themed night in our living room and so and it was so sweet because Hunter was six years older than me. She was like both my sisters, I have to say, just like so inclusive. They always made me feel like I was like part of everything, even though I was so much younger. They like,

they loved, they're just they're the best. They made my childhood so awesome. So Hunter, whenever a Disney Channel original movie premiered, would do this thing, and it was kind of just for us, Like she didn't invite friends over when she did this so I remember when The Cheetah

Girls premiered on Disney Channel. Hunter went out and bought us like matching cheetah ears and like matching cheetah skirts, and then we had these cheetah sheets and she made a blanket four out of them, and then we just sat in this blanket four with a bullet snacks, just watching The Cheetah Girls together and then learning the dance

moves afterwards. And it was like, I don't remember anything about that movie, but every time one of those movies premiered, a Hunter would always make it a point to like make this special night for us, and that one that was like the first one, and I'll always remember that. That's great. I really like that is all right, Listen. I don't think she listens to this, So I just ask, is Untie your favorite? Um, that's a pretty fucked up question, Brett. Yeah,

I don't have a parents. You've got you've definitely got a favorite. Who's your favorite? It's definitely not true. Kelly's like a pretty freaking amazing system. Oh, she just didn't participate in the Cheetah Girls' night. I think she was out with friends. I'm a huge fan of Kelly too. Listen, they're both they're both absolutely class. But wait, you know what it is? I'm my favorite. It's like, okay, okay, thank you tell you what. We'll save it for the

Secret of the Patriots Sex. You could tell me your favorite. What is the film that you must relate to, Jerry King, I must relate to, Oh, throw me a curveball here? Oh no, shit, that I most relate to? Oh fuck, I wasn't prepared for this one. I didn't see this one on the life. No. I'm trying to think here.

Maybe I'll use another answer of mine for this though, because a movie that I feel like makes me feel so warm inside, because it's it's about so much more than just what's on the film itself, like it's it's about food, it's about like friendship. It's just so good. I never get tired of watching the movie out of Chewie. I think there's something so special about that movie. And it was I think it was my uh Jesse high buddy,

it was. Um. I can't remember what I had it written down for, which answer I had it written down for, But it's a movie that I feel like it has such like a larger message behind it. It is so well made. It is so easy to watch and put yourself in Remy the Rats shoes like I don't know, I feel I feel like there's And it's so funny too.

Every character in that movie is so well like flushed out and hilarious and different and ridiculous, and you can find yourself in any of those characters given what mood you watch that movie and so, oh my god, you're getting tangled in my wires, Jesse, My, you're big fat head, James Jesse, James Lee James really nice? What I mean? What is the sexiest film you've ever seen? Joy King? Oh my god, please don't moan after that question, Jesse Confusion.

That was the sound of a dog? Can you imagine? Um? Okay, the sexiest film I've ever seen? It was actually kind of what I described as anisexual Awakening, which was Rocky Horror Picture Show. I was such a big fan of that movie growing up. When I was around like ages like fourteen to like sixteen, I would go to the shows all the time in Santa Monica where they do Have you ever been to one of those rocky horror

shows where they haven't? Do you know what it is like? Yeah. Yeah, they have actors acting out the entire film in front of the movie playing behind, and you like throw props and you have like prompts that you yell. And so that movie I remember like watching it at fourteen and just being like, oh, like, oh my god, Like I was so affected by it, was so amazed, it was so weird, it was so kooky. So sorry you saw it at one of these late night things with the

actors and everything for the first time. Yeah, And then I continued to go after that a lot of Saturday nights with my friend Emma, and we would go. We would sometimes go just to just the two of us, and sometimes we gather a bunch of friends, and like it was funny like every now and then if I started, like dating a new guy, I would like bring him as like a litmus test, and if he didn't enjoy the experience, I was like no. So it was like

it was such an important movie for me. I think, like in like you know that pubescent like sexual awakening phase of your life. Interesting, Joy King, I'm so sorry about this subcategory question, but here we are. There's this subcategory to the question traveling bone is worrying. Why does what's a film? You found a rounding you went, so you should, Joy King. I'm so sorry. Um, I have an answer for you. Thank you everything. I need you to. I need you to hear me out here. Okay, hear

me out This is not a movie, more of a character. Now, Goofy's laugh in the Mickey Mouse World. Goofy sounds a little bit like he's joking on a dick in my opinion, And I don't in any sense find that arousing or troubling boner for myself. But I find it a little bit of a I find myself to be a little unwell for thinking that in the first place. I find myself to be a little disturbed for thinking that Goofy

sounds like he's joking on a cock. So I think that would be my answer for this question, Joy King. Finally someone has taken this question seriously. Joey King moves into the top two answers to that question. Oh my god, what that's amazing. That is amazing, And I'm really I'm really can I say proud? I'm proud? Wait? What was number one? That might be number one? Oh shit, that might number one. That's a proper that is a proper answer to that question. And because of you, I'm going

to keep up, you know. And I remember the night that I had this realization, and just to make sure I was like I was thinking about this, I was like, I'm going to answer that on this podcast, and I was like, I was like, but you know, I think that I feel very vulnerable because I don't think it's a good look, you know, to say that. But I think that's why it's But I looked it up to

just make sure I wasn't nuts. Like, I just was like, let me just quickly YouTube little video of Goofy's laugh and sure enough that man has a penis in his mouth when he's laughing. Yeah. But but I just want to let set the record straight. It does not in any way arouse me. It's just an observation. No, I that's a perfect, a perfect answer, And and I really appreciate you sharing that. I got a standing ovation from you. That really means Yeah, it was really big because you

know that that question sometimes I think should it go? No, God, I think it's the bat. It really forces someone to think about themselves a little bit. Yeah, I just think people some people don't like it. But you really embraced it, and that's you're really impressive. Thank you so much, Major pain and that an episode. I feel so good about

myself right now. What is objectively the greatest film of all time objectively might not be your favorite objectively the greatest face So this is the one that I was like tossing up with RADACHII as well, because I feel like it's so so, like so good. But I'm actually because I wasn't prepared for your freaking related to question. Oh um, I actually I am going to say, and I don't want to. I don't want people to think I'm like, you know, a Disney adult or anything, because

I'm not, but I do. I heard you actually talk about this movie in one of your other episodes, and I fully like just kind of going back to talking about what we were talking about earlier with do we come back? Do we not? You know? And also in relationship are we remembered when we go like and who cares?

And do we care? In the movie Coco, Yeah, that movie just annihilated my heart a little bit when I saw it in such an amazing way and after that, like and it kind of like me and my mom saw it together with I think my sister or my grandma was kind of beautiful. It was just a little family outing when we went to see it, and it was just we were all so deeply affected by it. We were like, we want to start putting out photos of our of our deceased relatives on delas dosmertos. I

think that's how you pronounce it. So that movie, I think I'll put that in place of ratitui for objectively. But again, I am not a Disney adult. These just happened to be my answers. Hey, listen, when you were young, you were in the five dollar bin, not the Disney bin. So you're catching up and is Coco is fucking brilliant and a really good antswer? My question that's really troubling me is you went with your mom, your grandma, and your sister went. Where's the other sisters? Because you took

a favorite in it. You're coming back around this. I actually don't remember who went. I just remember that the three of us were there, me, grandma, mom, for sure. I think a friend might have come to God, right, my bad? You left the other You left the other one at because it got her Coco. Yeah, it made me feel better about death Coko me too actually, and it was so beautiful too. It was such a beautiful like not just the emotionals of it, but just visually

it was stunning. So that movie just like it was really cool. What's the film you could or have? What's the most over and over again? This is the stepbrother's answer. Me and both my sisters are like, it's funny because we've never had like, it's not like that's our relationship. We'd never have been like Brennan and shit now I can't even remember the other stepbrother's name, but we just

love that movie. It is so funny to us, it's just and it's also like, it's so funny, but it's not even funny anymore because I have seen it so many times. It's just like it just feels so like cozy to watch it over and over again, because you like, you know, I love watching new films, I like learning new things, I like new experiences. But there's something sometimes about putting on a movie that you know so so well and just being able to like get cozy. It's

just that's that movie for me. It is so ridiculously fun and like again with Major Paine, we know every line of stepbrothers, and especially the niche ones, like not even the ones that everyone quotes all the time. Sometimes I just hit someone with a really like kind of forgettable quote from that movie and they're like, what's that from, and like, really think about it, motherfucker, really think about it. So that movie is definitely an over and over again

one for me, really good. Here's the question for you. I don't like being negative. I think you, Jay King, I could be wrong. What's the worst film you've ever seen?

It's true. I don't like being negative because I think when people make a movie it's an incredible feat, Like to have a movie get made is so hard that if you're trying something like I'm a pretty generous viewer, I think if I'm being told to feel something by the filmmakers, I pretty much feel that, Like I really love watching stuff, and just like with Rocky Horror, I think they wanted me to feel a little bit aroused, and I was like, hey, I will generously give you that.

I am so a movie that I know when I saw it was like, this is just just so bad, but I love it so much. Is I think show Girls is a be terrible, amazing beautiful, horrible, ridiculous movie. And I think it's so appropriate and so nice that it has had such a cult following because it deserves it, because it's bad, but it's great. Yeah, and we deserve to celebrate that bad movie forever and ever and ever.

I love that movie. I love that movie. It's one of them films where I don't know, like it's consistent tonally, it's like as in, it seems to be the film they meant to make, Like as in, when you watched The Room for whatever it is, seems to be kind of quite badly made and confused and all over the place, whereas show Girls is consistent. It seems to be the

film they wanted to make. You might not like that film that they made, but it doesn't seem like it was a mistake, you know, it doesn't seem like it was a mistake. Everything seems purposeful. And I also had to say it's very exciting film for me too, because I watched it for the first time with my little cousin, who is about He just turned eighteen, so we watched it when he was like sixteen, and I think I was with him for his sexual awakening film, and I

think that's pretty special. I didn't realize what was going on in the movie when I popped in with him. It was the first time I'd ever seen it, and and he was he was at my house, and it was like, I think, I don't remember who else was over, but I just like every now and I periodically looked over at my little cousin and I was just like, oh my god, he is suppressing a boner so hard right now. He is just he's he's like sweating, He's like forehead vein was like popping out. He was like

freaking out over there. Well did you keep good? Ha ha? This is funny, isn't it? And he'd be good, yeah, yeah, it's so funny. Afterwards, I was just like, so, Joe, how do you feel? He was like, um, that was the best movie I've ever seen. There's something for everyone, you know what mean? Yeah, I got no bayfoot. I guess abolutely love it. What what is the Listen? You're very funny, jo King. What's the film that made you

laugh the most? That's Jesse again moaning. It's not definitely stopping buddy, Um okay, still going go upstairs, go Jesse? What's the film that made you cry. I don't think you know what to say. Just get out of here, go go, go, go go. Um Okay, the films that made me laugh the most. I've got kind of two answers for this, but I will start with my original answer. What We Do in the Shadows. It's a movie that I had, Like I was doubled over. My stomach was hurting,

I was go outside. I was laughing so hard. I was like, my my abdomen was like sore. Afterwards, it was what's wrong with you? Go away? Look at him, He's just standing in the doorway, like okay, he seems

to have stopped. Okay, But yeah, that movie, What We Do in the Shadows, it's just I remember the first time I saw it too, it was like it was described to me as like a documentary style parody of vampires living in like being roommates, and I was like, I'm sorry, first of all, the concept alone, how do you get more like genius than that? Like what? And I watched it and it was just like the funniest truly,

like the funniest thing I've ever seen. Like I haven't watched it in like maybe a year or so, but it was It's and another movie that also just blew my mind with how funny it was and how ridiculous it was. I'm kicking you out, buddy, Hang up, I'm gonna kick him out. Go go out, go go. You were being loud and obnoxious. Okay, he's gone. I'll miss

him too. I love when he like hangs out. I also love when he talks, but it's not great for sound because it sounds like someone's moaning in the background. But another movie, besides What We Do in the Shadows that just absolutely cracked me up. And I know you're not supposed to do double answers, but I'm here breaking the rules. Brett. You know, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure

is so funny. It's so funny. I watched it for the first time not so long ago, and I was really just like, like, now it's all I think about. That's all I think about. It is so perfectly my sense of humor. That movie like it's it is just I watched it and I was like, where has this movie been on my life? This is exactly who I am. I love it. It's such chumming it and I love how different. It's so charming and I also like those are those are my two answers for what makes me

laugh the hardest. But what I love about them is how different those movies are in terms of like what kind of humor it's trying to be. But I just think they're so brilliant and so funny and just like so excellent. You know what I mean. I got a sense of it. Yeah, Joy King, you have been beyond a delight and absolute However, when you, in an absolutely crazy move, went up on your roof to put Christmas lights up in much even knowing what you knew about

God and his particular feelings about certain things. I went on the roof. It was much, wasn't even Christmas, and you thought, I just like Christmas lights, I'll put them up. My fucking crazy, Like you're crazy, You're messing with God,

and God don't like that. And you're up on the roof and your favorite sister was in the house just just just making stuff, and lightning out of nowhere struck you, and your hand was holding the Christmas lights which you're plugged in, and you got electrocuted and your whole body caught fire. You fell off the roof, landed on your red load of coyotes came out. Yeah, they smelt burning flesh. They're like, oh that's good. They came over. They eat you.

They eat you. They dragged your part, they ripped apart your body. Half of your face fell in a gutter. Safe Yep, coyotes went off. I'm walking along. I've got a coffin with me. You know what I'm like. And I'm like, this is Joe King around? I ask your favorite sister, I go, there is joy king around. Then your other sister comes out, Ago have you seen Joe King? I can see where. She confirms you and your grandma comes in. I go, you're my favorite, and then says,

anyone see Joe King though? And they go she was up there putting Christmas lights out When I go in march, is she mad? Does she know what God's like? Anywhere? I go outside? And then I see half your face in the gutter, and I'm like, I know what's happen. She's obviously put Christmas sides. I've got electric heating full off the room, been eating back your eyes. So I put the half of face that we have in the in the in the coffin. I said, your sisters get

a load of memorabilia. We'll try and fill up this coffin anyway. They get over excited, they think, well, we'll take a room. So they've actually emptied your room and they put it all in. The coffin is absolutely full. Okay, there's only enough room in this coffin for me to slip one DVD into the side for you to take across to the other side. And on the other side, it's movie night every night. One night, it's your movie night. What film are you showing the people of heaven when

you're sat on brisket and it's your movie night? Go, Joey King, I'm going to show the beautiful people of heavens How you do this to people? Brett? How are you doing this? Are you doing? Clammy? I'm going to show the beautiful people of Heaven Old Boy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna show them this movie and then I'm

gonna tell them. I'm gonna make I'm gonna make everyone question why I got into Heaven because I'm gonna mess with them and tell them that I thought all those sex scenes were really arousing, even after I found out the twist of Old Boy. Joey Kig you wasn't the great? Is there anything you would like to tell anyone to look out for? To what? I would like to tell everyone that that's actually I don't find that arousing, Just to let everyone know again just like Goofy's laugh, No,

you can keep it in just it's just like Goofy's laugh. No, No, we'll cut you say you don't mean it? Oh my god? Uh do I want to tell anyone to look out for anything? I guess I've got um bullet Train trailer just came out. That was really exciting. I had had a lot of fun make in that movie. It was kind of insane. I feel like a bit of an

imposter syndrome with that movie. Um. And then I've got a movie coming out called Princess, and I worked really hard on That was the hardest probably movie physically I've ever done. I trained for months and months and months to become a sword fighter and I just learned how to fight and I loved it and I had so much fun. But other than that, maybe just look out for yourselves. You know, tough time in the world, just to give yourself a little cozy hug and watch your

favorite movies. I think that's great, and I like that you you hadn't seen other Disney princesses, and so you became the princess yourself. That's correct. A sword wielding princess. What a delight. I have a question for you before I go, I have one question for you. I'm such a fan of yours. I'm such a fan. You're the best. I gotta know, though, I gotta know about your posture

on ted Lasso. I have to know if that was your choice, if that's how your posture is in real life, or if playing that character has made your posture better, because I think it's an amazing choice. Well, I really appreciate that, Joy King. It is a choice of the character. It is how play that. I really appreciate that. I think it's am I think it's amazing. It's one of

my favorite character traits that's subtle about your character. I think you're an amazing actor and I'm such a fan of yours and I cannot believe you ask me to be on this podcast. It made me so excited because I've always wanted to meet you. And even though it's through a computer screen, it's just as awesome as I imagine Joey King, what a pleasure you're bread. Thank you very much, you too. Good day. That was episode one

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