Jamie Demetriou (Episode 57 Rewind!) • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #220

heard this one, fuck, it's a funny one. We recorded this one so long ago, three years ago we were but children, and it's really worth a revisit. Jamie Demitrio is so fucking funny. Oh, we recorded this in person. This is when they used to happen in person. Do you remember Do you remember? Do you remember back in the day we could meet up? Do you remember that? Anyway,

have a listen to this. If you want all the extra stuff that you get with the podcast, the videos, the extra questions, the secrets, you can go to patreon dot com forward slash Brett Gonstein for all that stuff from nearly all of the episodes. Otherwise, we'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Thank you for bearing with me on this and I hope you are well, enjoy yourselves, have a good life, and I very much hope you enjoy this. Films to be Buried With rewind classic.

Hello and welcome to Films to be Married With. My name is Brett Gonstein, and I have your face. I'm joined today by an incredible guest. He is an actor, a writer, let's sketch came median, a singer, a bad estate agent fictional, and a Channel four sitcom superstar. Please welcome to this show. The one and only mister Jamie sitcom superstar wars here he is. Thanks man, thanks for saying I'm a sitcom superstar? You are? You? Forgot to

mention Brett Goldstein sort of equal looking like well look alike? Yeah, equal sound equal makes me think masolute plaids No, no, no, well maybe Brett gold wishes it. I wish I was a britt. I wish I would Jamie dem how were you equal? Out? I keep forgetting which one I am? Yeah, we do have a silverar look if I may. Yeah, just ambiguous? Yeah? Where are they from? Yeah? What's wrong with them? And how are we safe with them? I

think I'm on the lower end. I think if if people were to be like, what's the difference between the two of them, to be like, I don't want to be mean about Jamie, but Brett is, And you know where that sentence goes. I think the end of the sense, Jamie's the one I can say for laying the room with. Of course, I was gonna say, Bret can wear a leather jacket, exactly, and Jamie Carr, you got I wouldn't look confident in a leather jacket, and the way you do. I feel like your jacket grew out of me, out

of you. Yeah. Yeah, it's made of my own skin. Yeah, it started at your cuffs and it sort of grew back onto your body. Yeah. You shaved a leather jacket off someone else and then put it on and then felt win it. Yeah, exactly. That. Okay, thanks for coming to my place. The nice of people say so I love your sitcom. Step Let's flat. Yeah, a good title for a sitcom. That it's very funny, proper like Jack Jake's character. Funny, funny, funny, funny. Thanks man made me

laugh and I was on my own and laughed. And that's powerful stuff. Really yes, Yeah, I always feel like I'm going mad when I'm on my own and I'm laughing. I don't think I do do that that often. Yeah, it is actually rare to Elane in your house. I'll occasionally do one big clap with a very straight face appreciated. Yeah, I do. I really appreciate that, Thanks very much, mate. It was very hard and I was very sad for a long time writing it. Right, that's the that's comedy,

that's comedy. Did you feel any joy during the production shooting with six of the best weeks I've ever had, and I've had shit loads weeks I've seen your Instagram. Oh not good weeks, just weeks the good ones a few and far. But yeah, shooting it was amazing and weirdly made it feel worth Did it make it feel worth while? I don't know if five and a half years of misery, if six weeks can make that worth while?

I did. We made super Bowl that was basically five five years altogether, and the shoot was the best time in my life. But the shoot was eighteen days. It was eighteen days out of five years. And you think, is that balance right, that ratio right? Is the euphoria coming from the fact that you know you're nearing the end of the horrible time. It's because it's the closest time to the end of making it. Well, I think it's because you're finally fucking doing this thing that you've

been trying to do forever and you never right. I certainly think you must have had this if you were five years in development with them, just so many times if well, this is never gonna oh yeah, oh I wrote it a year and a half. When you really think about it, it does make the joy of doing it irrelevant when you're like, wow, I need to not do that again. Be miserable for that long? No way, what for six weeks of happiness? No, Like, I've got a film in very very early development out in twenty

twenty three. In my head, I have what I started staff when I was twenty four, and I wrapped two days before I was thirty. Wow. Yeah, And so I started properly thinking about doing this film and talking to you know, people who can make it around thirty And I'm thinking, realistically, if I set my sights any sooner than forty, I'm going to be very upset. I think. For I think I'll be forty when I make it

and the character won't work anymore. I'd love to reassure you that that's not the case, but I think that's a reasonable way. Yeah, I think. I think tenure. I think tenure I've made I made a short film of it, and that is enough for me? Is that the car? Yeah? Great short film? Thanks man, available on Sky. It's actually on YouTube on YouTube. I went to look at a camera, but there isn't one. There is one. Brett's filming. Me.

Didn't tell him that the camera. It's been always filming a little teddy bear I and you are you can say this now. I believe this will come out after you've annouced it. You're making a series twos two, which will be less than five years in the major Yeah that Yeah, that's been a nice process knowing that it's nearby, but it's also worrying. So it's like, does it you know? If anyone liked it? Did they like it? Because it took five and a half years to make? Because of

all they're suffering, right, I mean the second album? They are there any there were loads of second albums are better than the first one. What's a good second series? I think most sitcoms, second series is the best series, really, yeah, because the hardest thing is building your world, and you built your world, then the second series is like, oh, we've got the world. Now we can play with the

characters right and have some fun. And then after that it becomes two dimensional and they always loses its way. But second series strong because parks and record. I think three and four pretty good. Yeah, two three four a good Red Dwarf. First series finding its feat second series not a reference. I don't really, I don't know why. Guy trying to think of the sitcoms that were funny. Wait,

wait the Office, I think they're evenly good. Yeah, that's true. Partridge, right, I'm an a Partridge, which I guess you can't really call series one and two is so much good before. I think that they're equally good. But I only found out, like a couple of years ago that the general consensus, I think among the people who made it as well, is that they shouldn't have done a second series. So I find very weird because I think a lot of the best stuff is a series two. Yeah. And that's

films for you. That's and this is a chat about films. Yeah, So you're making stuffs, definitely, but in in a fifth of the time you made the last serious Yeah, so it will be rushed and yeah on the calf, but it will well looking for it to be bad, but not shit. Yeah, just like crap. Great if it's just crap. I mean, I have no sense you have no more

confidence in it now? Now you really got less confidence? Yeah, I mean I'm basically as confident as I am near to the last person who complimented it, Do you know what I mean? So you were just quite nice about it, A little spring in my stuff. Have you seen my foot swaggling? I'm pooing on your accouch? But yeah, my head goes. Yeah, there was that bit that you think is really bad? Oh yeah, you're right. It was the worst show ever made. What about that line that you

don't like in it? Yeah? God, yeah, I forgot it is we should burn it copy? Yeah, it does. Think I haven't watched it for so long. Did you watch it again too before you started writing or if he left it? Well, I started writing so soon after after it went out. One more question about the joy of it, please, which was so minimal when you everyone involved in it. It's gonna listen to this. I really you love the shoot,

I will okay positives. Yeah. I love the cast and the crew and everyone involved in making it, producers, director so much. I was very, very very happy that we got to cast for people that we did. Yeah. That is one thing that I stand by with it is I think it's got a really good cast. I just think that everyone is brilliant and I'm impressed by everyone in it. It's approper ensemble. That's the other thing that's great. Every character, it's funny. Oh thanks man, Well, yeah, well

done them. They really are in their own right. They are all people that I've just I just want to see on TV and want to see do stuff and want to see them do the stuff that i've seen them do that they've come up with themselves. Like our Roberts for example, who plays out at me Is. I saw him in my first year at the Fringe and I really lost my mind. I thought it was the funniest he was doing footlights and I thought it was

the funniest people I'd ever seen in my life. And I've just been waiting since to see him in a role that I thought was worthy of him. And that's why the characters called out that's nice. Yeah, well not that I was the person to do it. I just was like, I want I give him a lot. I like him to do his own thing. And so yeah, And when it came out and it did well, I believed when to get your things all right, I mean it was it went out during Love Island and the

World Cup and the summer. Yes, and as a result a nurse breakdown. So I think fourteen people saw it, but I only knew like twelve of them. Yeah, there were two strangers and they yeah, I've seen I'm stalking them weirdly, tell me what I have a bit? Did you like Jason people left the bath? He to say they yeah, did you see all of them? Yeah? They didn't. Why did you start watching after five? I just haven't got round tis in my sky. I do get when people do come up to me. I do get sometimes

like its just completely unwelcome. Just like I saw your show. I saw your show you go, ye gone, they go. It grew on me. Oh, I like episode four. You're like, all right, thank you, thanks for sticking with it when you clearly didn't like for yeah, cheers, And what was happening when you came up to me there. Everyone's just assuming you want to know everything in the world. But it's fine. But the people who have been lovely and

listening to this thanks so much genuinely. Like I said, if someone comes up to me and says they really like it, I get to like it for about ten minutes. You get to like episode four. Yeah, every other one. I'm like, you're right, every other one has ruined Telly. Shit. So you're going to make films. You like films, You're a film gay. Yeah. I think I was obsessed growing up, like big Empire collector. Since I was like seven, my pocket money might as well have been called video viking money.

So I used to go to my video My local video shop was called video Viking, and it would It was just no question to me, that's what it would be spent on, and I would just hire anything, just I wanted to see everything. I've just watched so much Telly. But the more I get into doing it for a living, the less I find it easy to concentrate, especially when watching stuff at home, like when I go to a lot of the time, I'll go to the cinema to unblocked writer's block, so I just end up missing the

film because ideas, yes I'll be I'll be watching. It's like, I don't know if you have this, but I find it's so much easier to write or just do anything when I'm not supposed to be doing it. It was like at UNI, I could never write an essay, but then if everyone was going on a big night out, I'd be like, I'm going to stay and do this. It's like, whatever the cheekiest thing you can be doing, my brain made me do it. You're going out and films.

See what fun from last night man Jesus Christ? But no, I yeah, so I go to the cinema and I just spent a whole time like flat, which is the outcome of every episode. A lot of people like, when is he going to let a flat? I'm like, he does. He always does, because the joke of the show is you'd be mad to not be able to let a flat because all you have to do is just point it at a flat. It's to do with you anyway. I'm not telling that. Talking films, I love films. Yeah.

I keep a log of every film I see, write every single one down in the back of my diary, right number them. I often talk people about films are going. I wish I knew every film I've ever seen, like I could list. I wish I knew how many films i'd seen. I was like, oh, starts, so like six years ago, I started writing every single one down, how many of you worked in the last six years. I tend to see it's dwindled. This is how I know. I see less. I think it was a round the

new films. This is, yeah, the ones I haven't seen before. I probably see about one hundred and ten a year something like that, and now it's around sixty something, which is all right about the weeks like one just over one a week. Yeah, yeah, I still love it, but I do find that I find myself waiting for those sort of November to February period now where they're all a good point, where they're all the good ones, where this year I'm not that taken. If I'm honest, that's

my favorite year. I don't know if this will go out this year. I'm talking about the beginning of nineteen. I mean, I mean, I'm going to put it in now. I'm never myself and stuff. So if my dulcet tones make people want to hit themselves in the head with a spade. Just feel free to turn it off. You won't, I personally will be as his podcast. That'd be annoyed if you don't. Sorry, I just listen. I wasn't going

to draw a test of it. But actually, ladies and gentlemen, this is a big deal because J need to be much When I had brand getting zone, very rarely appears as himself and it's a real I know that you have and you do so thanks. I'm scared, but I do no. I've done it a few times myself, but I'm technically not myself because I'm a puddle scared on the chair, whereas I feel quite chill. Oh well, I forgotten to tell you. Oh fuck, I should do? You want to turn the thing off and tell me? Oh god, im,

we'll keep recording. I should have told you about it's so bad. I think you're going to be well. I'm glad to you that's telling me because cool. I'm so sorry. I'll just say it. I guess I'll just say it. I don't know how to word it. He's on the floor. I believe you want to put it into a sentence. Well, I just I just I guess I was going to say you you died, you died, squeezed you died. I'm so sorry. How did you die? Well, everyone was smashing around and I got caught up in it. Yeah, what

what do you mean? I was whacking around, whacking around, Everyone was whacking around, and it was a big hubbub, and it nicks my head. I got my nicked. You got killed in a hammer? Or someone tweeted. Someone tweeted something and everyone got when it was everyone was off in arms about the tweet and they were smashing around because everyone was so unhappy about the tweet and went out to see what was going on. I got and I got caught and someone nicked my head. Oh god,

And yeah it wasn't my tweet. I know what it was about. God, But I get it when someone tweets something that isn't something that I think. I'm like, what about tweeting something that I that I agree with? Yeah? And then I get out and around. Yeah, but I just I wasn't awareness you hadn't kicked tweet that? Yeah, you just like what the habit? He went out and with people backing around, Yes, and what happens. What happens

in my head nicked. Someone nicked me in the head with someone was swinging their hubbub smashing around my head. I get it, though, don't tweet if you're not tweeting what everyone thinks. Come on, make sure everyone agrees, and then let's get it out there. Yeah, unless you less you went random deaths like this one? Yes? Are you scared of death? Yeah? Oh yeah? Yeah right? Are you not? Yeah? What's not to be scared of? Some people are scared

of it or they don't think about it. What religious ment? No, I think religious people are scared of it because a lot of religion. Yeah, the way they have a better better be good? Oh, I mean I kind of worry about talking about this because I might not be able to think about films. I mean, and I am dead, So what's there to be scared? Death just looks like a chilled out dude's living room filled the film posters and a couple of glasses of water. What's what do

you think about it? That a lot? I try not to brott. I feel like I'm thinking about it quite a lot now considering I am dead. Yeah, well I always knew that when I died, I go all right, let's get this film podcast done and then I'll settle him to death. Yeah, it's one last thing to do, or one the first thing to put your affairs in order and tell your family you love him. No, no, I promise better due podcast. Wait but I've already died. Yeah yeah, No, one's getting their affairs in order once

they're dead. Well, they're going straight to the film calls. Yeah, thank you. This is the front door to death. So you worry about death, you don't want to think about it. I think, right, I'm going to try and say this without thinking about it. I think the big realization, Oh god, I mean almost definitely cut this because there's a polite thing to talk about. Is I always considered the idea like, you know, I'm considering myself agnostic. I don't know, but

I assume there's nothing after. And when when you really can conceive of the idea of nothing thing? Yeah, because when you think of nothingness, you think of like a dark room, like you're sat in, like a solitary confinement or something like, oh crap, I don't see anything but nothing. It's like, no, not even that it's nothing. The idea of nothing is like minus that when I realize that, let's just I don't have texticles anymore because I thought

that once. Yeah, that's where they went. Yeah, all units had that thought. You know, I might have said this before. You know this if Youth in Gravity, Yes, you know the bit where Sandra Bullock gets sort of pushed and she starts spinning through space and she goes, oh no, none, and if no one gets to us, she's just going to be spinning. Yeah, that's how I visitize the fear of nothingness. It's just spinning. But isn't that something that's though,

because spinning is something. Yeah, it's like the BA to me is like, oh God, whereas nothingness is like there's no way of God to be said, because you're just like, you're not even, you can't even, You're not like anything. It's just And this is why, this is why we shouldn't be talking about it. Because the Pan's Labyrinth poster in your room is starting to look so much more terrified. I wouldn't mind if this was what death was. Imagine

if that was a universal thing. When you die, you go to comedian Brett Goldstein's living room, and there's enough films in here to last you maybe two months you were to watch them consistent? Yeah, gone, is that you and poorly from the sopranos? Or is that just poorly from the soprano? It's poorly from the sopranos signed to my auntie Andy Lovely. I think it's and now it's all the sopranos, and I think it actually says from pussy, does he not? Does poorly? Not know whose character is? Well,

that's so funny. I feel like then that those guys aren't a hundred percent engaged with what they're doing, Like yeah, from the gangster character. I all say, wasn't there when that's was given? And it may have just been a random in having American right right? Right? Yeah? Yeah, sure have pussy. What's the significance of that tennis balls that from the Wimbledon film? Yeah? That's And this carpet in the room is this from the carpet from notting Hill. Yeah,

it's it's the carpet that risk the fans naked. Ah. Yes, And that dawn of that I assume is from trannosaur by No, but it's close. It's from Jenny had his figure prints. Hey, I've got good news for you there isn't nothingness? Well, what is there? There's a heaven? Oh right, okay, it's quite nice if you like that sort of thing. You're into that. What am I into? There being a heaven? Yeah? I'd love that? All right, great, well, good news, it's true. Yeah,

And there's lots of people there. They're all fans of all six episodes of absolutely not. They watched the moll Day one immediately to people think the first one's too hectic. No one's watching the first one up in heaven. They want to relax. We're all agreed. No, everyone loves still Unlikable and episode one up in heaven and they don't want to happen heaven the level one to six. And they're very excited by season two, even though they never get to see it because you died. But you're going

to tell them what the stories were. It's going to be even better. Just get it live anyway. The point is what they really want to talk to you about in heaven is your life. But three films? Can you imagine that? What a bunch of legends? Yeah, thank you. The first thing they want to know is what's the first film you remember seeing? And was it a video? And Vikings. This is this is. It's annoying that this is the first one because it's the only one that

I don't have a definite answer for. Do you have a definitely do you know the definitely know the first film you saw. I've really been thinking about it, and I think I do. But but yeah, it's possible that there was, you know, yeah, free because but I think you know these things because your parents tell you that. My parents don't remember anything about me when I was

a kid. When I asked them what my what my first word was they it's not even like all sorry, Jay, It's just like, I don't know, there's I'm so sentimental about stuff like that. Something. I have a vague memory of being stood outside the Odeon Barnet and seeing the Little Mermaid poster out front, but I can't remember if I was going in to see it or I just saw that poster. I can't remember being in the film in the cinema watching it or not, which is really annoying,

But I think it was that. The earliest memory I have of watching like a film film that wasn't like a kids film is Drop Dead Fred. Oh yeah, I remember going to my cousin's house in Nottingham and and always asking to watch that and being like this is the funniest, maddest thing ever. It's like it's quite it's quite scary in a weird way because he's so there's

no he has no control and he's got no boundary. Yeah, it's like a gritty British version of the mask, like the sort of the masks, like everything sort of under control. I think he's got his catchphrases and stuff like you know where you are, but brick male is I mean he could sort of like smash your TV screen through, come into your living room and like rub his ars

on your face. Like then you feel like he could do anything because it's all about that film's all about not losing that like mad side of yourself as a kid. But not mad is in, like cheeky mad is in. Like if you were to apply the things that a kid did to an adult, it would be quite upsetting. Yeah, that's such a good reference, like the mask, the difference

in the masks. He would slide down the banister and like jump off in a cool way, drop their friendly slide down and banister knock his testicles on the end of it. Yeah, and then maybe they'd come off and he'd have to put them back on, the sort of thing, and you probably see them. Yeah. Yeah, he's amazing in

the film, just like such a force of whatever he is. Yeah, but that that to me, and I remember I remember it because there was a lot of I think I've probably spent a lot of my younger years wanting to be cool and have seen things before people, and I think that's probably the first example. I remember going to school and being like it was a fifteen as well, which is a huge deal because I was probably like it in God, when would that have been. I mean, I was like, I think I may have been like

seven or something. I'm thirty one. But I remember being at school and being like, I've seen drop dead Fred. Actually at the end of the day, can't go on story short, so whatever make it that way you will. And I remember a boy in my class going, no, you haven't, because I saw it at my cousin's house. And I was actually, as well as being a shelf, I was very sensitive, so I was like, actually, no, you're right. If you if that's the case, then there's no way I've seen it. That boy now I think

it's in jail, so fair enough. That's what you get for being to me. I think he stole out cars. Yeah. I can't find him on Facebook, so I assume yeah, yeah, or on any sort of social media. Want to see if on the Sea, if Drop Dead Friends in his list of favorites, and if he has actually seen it. The pricks his head shot, but yeah, those are my think those of my first I saw they had it

on video. It was like one of their you know when you used to go to someone's house as a kid and there's nothing to do because there's no like games, console or anything, and he's sick of just playing generic playing like let's play. Do you remember playing? It was nothing, just running around and laughing. Okay, what do you know? What? What do you want to play? What'll come on? You know the one? And then you just sort of run around. No and no, but I'm the mum. I'm the mum,

and that's that's home, and that's home. That's home, that's home. And then I put this in my head and that's no. But this toy is gonna die. Watch what wait? Wait, what are we doing? Well? I think the premise of this play what films do you have? And they go and there's one. There will be one weird one. They're like like, well, I've got mother Goose's football, like right, And then there's like a home video or like one of the dad's videos, so he's got like he's got

like quadrophenia or something. Yeah. Yeah, and it's terror and you're like they're smoking. No, they're smoking on the cover. No. And then the other one will the last one will be like drop Dead Friends and it likes silly for the silly man on the front cover, so we'd watch that. But yeah, I mean there were there were films like I'd watch obsessively as a kid, and I can't work out whether it was because like Home Alone, fanatically obsessed, right,

just what? I just watch it just with my tongue out for like fifty hours and then go to sleep and then another fifty hours. I love that. I remember being so taken by the Lion King trailer that before it had come out, I had a Lion King themed pie. I didn't even know the film was good. I was like, get me all the march. We're all dressing as animals from Linking because it is going to be the best film.

And then and then I went to see it like two weeks later, and I was just nodded the whole way through, like, yeah, it is the best film I've ever seen. Such an idiot I called it in my party like two weeks ago. Yeah, it's as good as I thought it would be. Brilliant. I'm glad I got all this. Were just carrying on my linking pencil cases and ben pencils inside, like yes, what's the film that scared you the most? As a kid, I just rejected being scared as a thing. I was never like a

daredevil in that sense. I never I was never excited by the prospect of being scared, Like being scared is a bad thing. Like people would be like in the playground, like I'm having a you know, it was all It all started with sleepovers, didn't it to people? We're gonna have a sleepover me a scary film, And there'd be somebody like, we're going to watch the Texas Change saw mascre like whispering about it in the playgrounds, like well, the teachers can give your attention because at home, you're

gonna watch a film. It's an eighteen years an eighteen i'd be like, oh much, I'm going to come like equally like suspect, thank you, it's cool. I'm actually not gonna ye like it's cool. I'm not gonna come to because it sounds so scary guys, guys enough for me. That's gonna like how many so scared? Probably not man a right, nice one. Put my shoes on. But yeah, that's an eighteen. Where's no way I can watch that because I'm ten and I'm going to obey the rules here.

I remember asking my friend Patrick what he was going to watch. Let the Sleepovers be like when I'm watching scary, because if we are, I won't come. Shall be annoying for me because I'll be terrified. I'm the one who doesn't like nightmares? Why does everyone like nightmares? And he's like no, no, no. And I got there and the dad was like, kids, gets what we're watching and pulled

out The Exorcist. I think we were eleven, and I was like, oh, In fact, I do remember another party, someone saying we're going to watch night We're in on street and I went home. I think it's interesting that you're but you were like brave enough. I think that was very broad I was, I know, I just that instance. I think I made an excuse and left. I was like, oh,

I forgot my because what do you have on? Oh god, No, Yeah, my mum's at home and she's so nice and I love spending time with her, So I've probably got our christ I probably got because because if I'm here that means I won't be holding as nice as time as I'll be the other one. I'm gonna go. I'd need to go. Yeah, that's this evening as well that I

do that and every other evening. So wait. So there was that, But then they went out The Exorcist, and I was like, I can't do that again because I think I've been really taking the piss out of and I They watched The Exorcist and I sat with my back to the screens of the whole thing. What do you think of me, Brett? After all this, I'm hearing

what I'm saying, I sound like a wet nothing. No, listen, what I think is impressive and where I don't understand, like from the difference between our childs and maybe it takes some bulls to not go along with what everyone was doing to go I'm going now now I'm not coming to your horror thing. I'd be like, here's this fucking tough k I think you're picturing a straighter spine. It was very much like I would like a puddle of water and the house is on a slant and

I'm under water. Would I just sort of like to ribble out of it and no one would notice? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I was about six foot fifteen when I was really when I was, so it was definitely noticeable, and my nose was most of that. So you've not seen it scary film. So The Witches used to really scare Yeah, And I think that's probably because it wasn't like an eighteen or anything, so it was one that I would have watched. Yeah, it would probably scare me

till today. Yeah, because I think that I came to learn that those films that I didn't want to watch probably wouldn't have scared me because Gord just does absolutely nothing for me. I don't receive it when I watch it. I just don't. It doesn't more often than not because I don't really care about the characters. I kind of think that existential crises scare me more so, like in the Witches, it's like the boy turning into a mouse

and just it's like, oh gosh, that's hell. Yeah, and the girl getting trapped in the picture and the family don't know where she's gone and she's just in the picture, and it's that it's that voicelessness that always scared me so much, and I'm so influenced by it. Like that short film, the one I'm trying to make, it's about a guy a car, it's all about it's all about a really horrible thing happening, and you're going like, oh, come, will someone be sympathetic. This is the worst thing that's

ever happened. Why doesn't anyone say anything about it? And it's like she's so close to being fine, because if they were to see her in the picture, then maybe they could get her out. And that used to ruin me. I'd be like I couldn't think about it. I couldn't think about it. But more recently, I was sort of delighted to have a cinema experience where I was like that officially terrified me and Suspiria, Yeah, I was contorting. I was so scared. Great, I was so happy to

be so affected by something we're talking about. Yeah, I haven't seen the original, which I'm sure is sacrilege, but I I thought it was one of the best things I've ever seen. It's been a bit panned, doesn't it. Yeah, well, I think it's a real like you're ever gonna have it or not because it's mad. I went to see it with my friend Phoebe in the Bisto in La and it finished and she went, what do you think? And I screamed. I was so on edge that just

someone a woman especially talking to me. I just like I like jerked and like kicked the chair on. No wait, I went into the toilet and someone like slammed the cubicle door and I like headbutted the wall. I was so on edge for ages and terrified that I was going to have nightmares. It was brilliant. That scene and I won't give anything away with that scene in the dance studio is unbelievable, and I think it's because it's there's no CGI. Those more materials really have so much

more of an Yeah. Yeah, I think that graphics have got to a point now that we don't need to talk about the quality of graphics, do you know what I mean? Remember, it's like all the graphics and that one brilliant graphics in Jamanji. All the bloody lines are going to bloody, bloody head off. But now it's just like it's a blanket. Like, yeah, graphics are good, let's get on with it. But I think that no matter how good they get, in the back of your mind,

you won't you won't connect it. You won't connect to it. Now I hate it. A great example is the difference between the original Willy Wonka and Cholie and Opti Factor. Yeah. Tim Burton could have made those sweets like floats in front of your face, but this sort of texture of them in the original I can still even though they you watch it the old one now and you're like, oh that's a rubber ball. Yeah that's You're still like,

but it's there to bite it. Yeah, it's there. They could touch it, whereas the Sweets and the new one you're like, it's just nothing. It's like, yeah, yeah, you're looking at a hologram. I often want to sort of like say to Hollywood, I don't think your CD is as good as you think it if because I keep watching stuff going. I mean, it still looks like a computer day, right, and everyone's going, oh, it's amazing, and

I was getting amazing watching computer things jump a better. Yeah, totally, but like with a much rather a bad puppet because they're in the room, because it's commitment to the thing. Because no one's going, oh, that's not real. It's like yeah, and we know it's not real. We're not supposed to think it's real. Although saying that The Jungle Book was on TV over Christmas and Mowgli sat on Blues Tummy, I mean the New and my dad was like what and he's seen it before The Wise and it scradge him.

But I also what was on something was on Pacific rim was on TV the other day and we flipped past it something like someone was like, this is actually amazing. I mean it's been kind of his actually amazing. So we like stopped to watch a bit of it and like there's huge monsters and contraptions like jumping around and like huge, and I was like, how is it that

this is happening in front of us? We are watching gigantic monsters and like robots like destroying a city and everyone's just like it's like it's it's like if you've shown that to someone and I mean, it's I guess it's my dad's generation who like see stuff on a screen and like what oh no, oh no, Little Mogley Gaffie, the whole town, the whole city is fucked. Okay, what is the film? I think this could be a lot of about its given her sensitively. What's the film made?

I thought about this, and I think that the one that's probably made me shed the most tears across my life is Hook. Every time Hook, I can't it's I think it's just like that's that thing of growing up, Slight, the end of Toys forty three, anything to do with growing up kills me. Hook is also to do with growing up because I loved it so much as a kid.

And Robin Williams was such a huge part of why I want to do what you know, he's like the first, He's probably the first like comedy presence that made me want to do what I do for living. And yeah, it's just it's just an assault on the senses. The color and like the motifs and everything. Oh, it's just powerpabball. Everything's so scary and beautiful and the performances are amazing and Dustin Hoffman is just the best in it. It's

something about like like the bit where Hook's wig comes off. Yeah, it's so provocative for some reason, and but it's probably because of me being a kid. And that whole the sequence where they imagine the food at the table and they have the food fight. It's that what the one can think. It's like you can taste it, and yeah, just everything about it. It's just wonderful. And I audiably cry. I like scream cry when I watch it. Yeah, it's

comfortably sat watching TV screaming. Your dad got what? Yeah? Yeah he doesn't get Why why is that fighting? Flying? I think the set up of Hooks some of the Spielberg's best work, the whole build up when they get to landing, when they go to Maggie Smith's house, stands

by the bed, so you've become a pirate, Peter. I love that ship and I love I think it's really beautiful and scary and moving when they do the speech at the great Elman Street and the and the all the old men stand out, all the old orphins stand and then the window is suddenly open and all the snow comes in. Fuck it. It's so it's so like like fraught. The whole thing is like the tension is just so constant, Like they turn Peter Part into this

tragic drama. Yeah, like the fact that she grew up to Maggie Smith and she lost her youth is like and not you're not crying from the beginning. Just everything about it. It's like, oh yeah, it's like any like crying, being scared. All those things I think are the makings

for me of the best films. Like whenever someone says to me, like whenever I talk to someone about a film and they're like, oh, this is amazing, I'm like, this is amazing, isn't it, And I go, oh god, no, it's ship I'll be like shit, be like yeah, it's so depressing and sad. I'm like, if it depressed you, then it was successful, wasn't it. When I went to see The Sixth Sense, I remember, this is the biggest impector film to ever had on me. I mean, it's

more to do with something else. When the twist is unveiled, Yeah, I turned around and threw up on my mum projectile. I was like, here's a what I had had. Weirdly, there was a promotion going on where they would give it. You get three dime bars for the price of one, and I just scoffed them all. And a dime is you don't know how much how much sweetness there is in a dime. I just like I ripped on her and she just took it because she knew she got it. She was like, yeah, it's a big twist. None of it,

neither of us fair. Yeah. Do you are you comfortable crying in front of people? Oh? Yeah, I love it? Yeah, Oh in front because of films? Yeah, oh yeah, totally. Yeah. It's a sort of equivalent problem to being ashamed of, like not having a spicy curry in front of someone. See's what I mean, You're you're a brave what you told all these stories like I'm a scared weaking, but you're crying in front of people. You're saying, I'm not watching that scary. One of the toughest guys I've ever met.

It's just why you go to cinema on your own all the time. Yeah, because I'm gonna have a cry they want people seeing. I love going to cinemawause that just because I don't have to worry about anyone else's

opinion of it. Yeah, exactly. I bumped into Brett in the in the in the arc light in La and I was going to see Black Panther and he was going to see whatever was on I think, yeah, And I was like, oh, you just come and see this with me, and he's like, I mean we get on right, and he was like, nope, I'm going on my own. I was like, oh, well, I'm they're going about the same time you want to see black but oh yeah, definitely, I will definitely see that. Didn't we decide we'll see

it half an hour apart of the meat up after it? Yeah, we did. I don't think that happens. I don't know what I think we did. I saw it, I saw something else and then we met afterwards. Oh yes we did. Yeah. Yeah, so it wasn't It was like generally not to avoide you. There was a moment where I was like, ouse, I's go ahead and I'm just going ahead and see that. Though I do like yeah, but suddenly it's like I never understood it's not a social thing. I mean, oh,

I completely agree. By the way, I'm not. Yeah, I got why you wanted to see it on your own, Like I said, like I do it all the time for script stuff. And also yeah, I like to go and see like three films in a day on my own. That's like my perfect day, just back to back. Don't need to worry about anyone else's schedule or or I just sometimes I'll be like, someone go, I want to see that, and I'll just text them what my schedule is and be like you com meetly for one of

them if you want. Because I leave my phone at home, do you yeah when I when I do an all day because that's the But I mean, I've heard you say it on this before. The best thing about being in the cinema is it's like this is a time for me to have nothing to do with my phone. I mean, I'd love to have nothing to do in my phone, ever, but I'm addicted in one way or another, which every every New Year's resolutions past five years has been cut it in half of the Paris scissors, but

I can't. I've started to think that what Twitter is is Twitter is the thing that gives us all mental health problems, which has resulted in everyone tweeting about mental health problems, and then all Twitter now is linked to people who use Twitter, writing articles about how the mental health is affected by Twitter. Whell it's just this self perpetuating machie. I mean I'm weeks away from writing my

mental health yeah. I mean when I started out, I justified it by being like, yeah, I'm only gonna be like ronic about it all. And I still am. I think about it that. I'm like, it comes to a point where you're like, well I am on it. Yeah, and the amount of times, Yeah, it comes a time where I want to write a sort of every now and again, I want to write it earlier than now tweet being like oh, sort of like oh, yeah, this is great, isn't it? Everyone is saying things on Twitter.

It's like what are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, it's such an embarrassment the whole thing. It's what even what is it? I mean trying to explain it to someone like pre internet or even pre social media. I remember when it first came out, I was like, how is this going to I don't get what it is? How is this going to catch on? Just saying things quickly just what the worst thing about it for me is that it's

and this is Revance films. I think I think it's just completely abolished the idea of the magic of celebrity. I know the celebrity isn't like yus thing, but I think it sort of was in a way. When I was a kid, I remember being like, God, I wonder what Matthie Perry's up to right now. And now it's like I always know what the people who are my heroes are up to, and more often than not, they're up to being on Twitter all the fucking time. Yeah,

That's why I want to ease myself off. It's why I sort of like I'm a bit scared to do stuff with myself a lot of the time because I'm like, I kind of like the idea of I'm just practice what I preach. Basically, It's like, if I'm going to be on TV, I like the idea of just being my characters. Do you know why I change it? I used to be like listen. It's one of the reasons I thought fuck it and started doing a podcast and

stuff is because of Kevin Spacey. Because Kevin Spacey used to say a lot I think to be the best actor, you should have no public profile. You shouldn't do you should be a mystery so that people can just see you as an actor, and then we found out you had a good reason for saying that, Kevin, and they made me think that I'm sure, but you're also a stand up So yeah, you've been being yourself as a performer for a long time. There's anything wrong with that.

I don't think there's anything wrong with an actor doing it just for my own personal preference. But then I really just I enjoyed stuff like this. It's lovely, you know, just and I think I've always been obsessed with the idea of lists and what are the best restaurants? What your favorite restaurants? What are your favorite things? This is like the dream. Yeah, we all just need to collect our list together and then we can go. Yeah, what is the film that most people don't like? It's critically

not acclaim. People don't like it, but you're like, fuck you all. This film is great. Talladega Nights. Okay. I don't know why it got any negative press. I think it's one of the funniest films ever made. It's like it's a sprawling improv a thon, but it is like fucking funny, and it's a film where Sasha Baron Cohen's like acting. Yeah, I think it's really really good. I think he's so good in it, and I think that Will Ferrell and John c Riley are like on like

the height of their career. I think it came it was sort of at the point of like saturation in terms of, like critically, I think it got negative press in terms of like that sort of thing had been popular for a bit and then it was time for the back press rather than we get back. Yeah, another one of these Yeah, like step Brothers didn't do that

well critically, but it is also so Yeah. I mean those films aren't like I mean, he Will Farell released like however many films about a guy in the public eye. It was at the top of his game and I felt from grace and then picked back up again. And that's sort of fine because they were just platforms for his I think he's really good. It's so funny. Yeah, and him and John c Riley has such a great

have such a great thing going on. Yeah. Maybe that's my answer, But it's it's a weird one, isn't it, Because it's like, I don't know when nice start is knowing about I think we all I think people who like films assume that everyone is aware of what the critical response to stuff is. Ye, but it's so funny, how not the case that is, Like, didn't Vin Diesel like make a huge bet that Fast and Furious seven was going to win Oscar for Best Film? Yeah? I

read that. I had a friend who was convinced that Taken was considered like one of the all time classics, like alongside Shinz's List and stuff like seor Shen Redempshon Taken. I remember I was once I was once on a I was once on a shoot and I heard some essays having a chat and I was eavesdropping, and there was one who'd become on the album by essay, I mean an extra the modern day, supporting supporting art. Yeah, not like a Mexican friend my essay, got your homework. Yeah.

I heard them having a chat and there was like an alpha among them being, well, you know what's going to win the Oscar The first film this year, don't you? And they're like, oh god, yeah, yeah yeah, what what is it? What film this year has had suspense, action, crying, romance, comedy graphics is POMPEII. I don't know if you remember POMPEII, but it was critically voted the least likely film to sort of it like do more than one pound at

the cinema. It was like, I think it was like voted one of the worst films of all time, and this guy had seen it and been like crying that right, okay, at list to be fair, what you wanted an film ten crying drama. I like the idea of yeah, those are the genres crying films. Yeah. I think there's not a lot of people sort of know what are objectively seen it. But there is no objectively good film, I suppose. I mean, I try and divide it into just derivative

and non derivative. I think derivative stuff you can say is objectively bad. It's like that is ship because it's been done to death and this isn't a good example of being done. But I think with actors as well, like when people are like their performances fucking shit, I hate her, I hate him, Like they didn't do it on purpose, They didn't turn up and rub their hands to do this shit. Everyone's just trying to you know, yeah, God bless him. Yeah, what's the film that you used

to laugh? You used to laugh it so much and you watched it recently and you've got it. Oh dear, that does not hold up for me. I don't think I have an official proper one for this, because I think that the nostalgia that you have for films you watched a long time ago tends to stand up because you enjoy it. You enjoy it for a different reason. I really used to love What Dreams May Come and Pat Yeah, not Patch had, but What Doings May Come?

That was my mom's both room. But I have a feeling if I watched it now, I'd be like, this is hokum. What Treason May Come was a really badly reviewed film at the time, and I think about that film a lot in terms of like, what a fucking wild it's that film is, and like, yeah, beautiful and mad and that's so dark. The story is the man dies and then the woman kills herself to be with him, and then she said the woman and the kids die,

don't they Oh? Yeah, they all die. But then someone kills himself and he's got going to hell to get her back. She kills the kids die, and then she kills herself, yeah, because she doesn't want to live without them. And then he he dies again, and then he crosses heaven to get to Hell to try and get her back because you kill yourself. Yeah, and keep a good in Junior is in angel and there's like fields of yellow. You can jump about him, and he is whatever you

want it to be. Yeah, I guess it probably was good. I just think I just think I loved it so much. Was my mum's favorite film, really, and I was like, what, Yeah, yeah, she's got less of a Greek that's going on about her, but she Yeah. I think I loved it via her. I was like, oh, my mum thinks this is brilliant. Patch Adams. I just loved Robin Williams in anything he did. But I think if I watched Pat Adams now, I'd be like, this is schmaltztown. Yeah. I think I found

Patendians uncomfortable. Yeah, there was something I like a selfie film, but I think there's something sort a bit creepy about Pat. It's a true story, isn't. Yeah, I think it's a bit creepy about the real Patendiens, about a guy who started his own hospital with low fees, but he'd be a sort of prankster in there. I don't know. I love I loved it at the time. Yeah, it was a family favorite for some reason. That's a good answer, Pat Adams would not hold up for you. Perhaps you

shouldn't watch it. I'll tell that My favorite question, What is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself, film that might not even be that good, but because of the memory you associate with that film. The thing is that this one I haven't I haven't actually seen that many times, and I think I probably haven't because of this. But Papillon, Yeah, because

my dad. Yeah, And I think it's because I really I probably couldn't even tell you that much about it, but it's a rare film in my life that I sat with with my dad and we watched all of it together and we both went, we I love that because we you know, he's a lot older, and he's as dads tend to be. We're not the same age. No, he's he's you know, he's nearly eighteen now and je and he doesn't weirdly doesn't have the best grasp of English.

Well he know, he does. He speaks fluent English, but he's sort of he just has a very Greek sensibility and doesn't quite can engage. He doesn't know how to engage with something unless someone gets shot in the face in the first five minutes basically, and for some reason we both just fell in and it's just the sad things we can never It's such a love. I love

film so much, and so is he. Like he will just sit and watch Telly all evening, every evening, but he will watch Shot just like if it's the worst thing ever made. It's officially becomes his favorite film at all time. Like he can't. God, actually asking this over Christmas and he just couldn't, just didn't give me an answer. He was mutely on the bounty. What but that's him remembering. I don't think that's like he just watch his FBI files like back to back he shot him. Why But

I tell you what actually I mean. For example, so over Christmas, every Christmas we have like a it's such a rigmarole finding a film. I mean, hence hence why I love to watch this Pappion memory so much. Finding a film that we can all sit and watch and enjoy and get to the end of and be like that was brilliant. It's it's an equation that doesn't bear thinking about. For me and Tasha, my sister Natassia Demetrius

gonna be like watching it be. And this year we went, Tash came out which was like murder on the our on Express. I'm like, oh my god, perfect murder mystery. Everyone get on board that someone gets killed very quickly. Well, why he's always as he's always shocked. It's like he wants it to happen. There was an express. Yeah, I mean this is about to get very weird the story

I'm gonna tell. So we put it on like, oh, he's got murder for Dad, Judy Dench for Mum, she loves her, will be like lovely and then and then me and Tash, you know it will be like fine, doesn't matter what we like. Ten minutes in Mum's asleep, Tashes on her phone. My dad looks so confused, and I'm just not enjoying it because for whatever reason, and I'm like, oh, God didn't succeed. And I look over to him and I'm like Dad, like so I don't want to put him through it. I'm just like you,

you're not really enjoy it, are you. I don't really understand what what's happening if I'm one, they're train? Yeah, yeah, they're on a train. Um, okay, so okay, johny changed the channel, is like please, So I I like, look around for the remote. I couldn't find the remote. He's start watching this thing and I find it eventually, and I changed the channel and it we changed the Steven

Spielberg's BFG so the live action one. And it's like the scene where it's like magic, Like he's like in his cave holding the little girl sucking a dreamer of an arshole whatever happens to that film? Um, and my dad's face lights up like a look like oh what colors and uh, and he's sort of watching it. And after about ten minutes, I can see that the sort of light starts to fade. I just like, I just like to watch him watching films. The light starts to fade,

Like what. I'm like, you're right if I'm I'm completely lost, I'm like, well, what do you want to know? It's like, is he a suspect? Is who was suspect that on the on the Arience Express? No, this seventy foot giant who is just blown a dream through a trumpet into a little girl's mouth or something while chewing on a cucumber made of worms, who, by the way, we just discovered has friends who are eight hundred foot tall. Is not a suspect on the Oriented Express. No, But I'll

tell you what. If he wasn't the Orient Express, I know where I'd be pointing. No. So that is why I enjoyed Pathion so much, because he got it and he knew what was going on, and it was just lovely. I mean it's not the only one. There have been other ones, but they're a rocky road. Like I used to be obsessed with American history X as a kid. It was the best thing ever. And I remember showing that to him, and until the horrific curve bit, he wasn't.

As soon as someone does something horrific, he's like, oh fuck. It's a combination of like he's incense. But it gets him in. It's like someone needs to punch him in the face to watch it. I mean, when you watch it stuff that I'm in, he's just like, he'll watch the wall instead. He makes up stuff that happened and staff really well, I'll be like, what's your famie. They'll like piss himself laughing because after this things or ship, well, I mean it was fit. You're laughing at it as well. Sorry,

what is the film that you found the sexiest? What's the sexiest film? Jamie Actually don't know the answer that one. I think that Almost Famous is a very sexy film, as in everyone sexy in it, just the whole thing of that band being on tour. I remember being devastated that I wasn't one of those people in that film, annoyed that I wasn't very sexy rock star in the seventies, and that weren't I wasn't being dismissive to a journalist. Yeah, I think that's my hard answer, and I just think

it's such a good film as well. You thought I wish I could see Tiny dance in a bus with some other people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. That scene is like you just want to you want to be there, don't you? You got that film? Yeah, we want to get on that bus. Yeah, I want to get on that bus. I want to have jump off a roof. I want to jump off a roof. I want to be I want to I wanted to be the journalist and be ingratiated into their gang accidentally and be able to.

I just wanted you wanted to leaves the virginity to three group piece. No, No, I would have I would have wanted something more stable than that. Right, that's that part I fast forward it. Yeah, right, good man, the genes and all that stuff. That's that's what I wanted. Yeah, I just I was like, this is the essence of cool, and I want part of it, mate, because it's some categories question that sometimes it works, sometimes doesn't. It's called troubling.

Band is worrying? Why I don't. It's a film that you found sexy or rousing and thought maybe I shouldn't. Might have been the lanking trailer. I don't think this is did you come up with that? It still came out and Metcalf. When that Metcalf was because he had two answers in one of them was traveling, traveling baner and then I stuck with it. And sometimes that's when you latched onto it because I think you exclusively have Troubling,

but every van's traveling. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that you're I've never had a none yet for sure, But I think although I think there is something in the idea of there being no known, non troubling bonus. So I think if I'm honest, ye, like, as a teenager, films like Mean Girls and Mean Girls was probably too olst what fifteen or something, and then like American Pie and stuff like that, they did have a profound effect on me. Like you're like laughing, but

you're like, oh my god, she's she's naked. I think that is troubling because it's like, it's so I don't know, it just it gives you such a warped idea of the world. Yeah, I don't know the idea of like I don't know that just that whole culture of boys being like cheekily watching this girl stripping on a camera and be like, yeah, this is cool. It's like horrible, it's so weird that sequence now in hindsight, the sequence of the film, Yeah, I just think it is. Really

I think it's troubling retrospectively. I wasn't troubled at the time, so I was just like, check out this roller Ghost. I'm loving it life teenage years. But yeah, looking back, I'm like, oh god, what was my understanding of anything? Yeah, I don't know, although you know, with all mine sort of sensitiveness. Sensitivity, there is a word for it. Yeah, I probably was quite like, this is not okay. Yeah, poor girl, and you've never fucked to pay and that's

fact or a peach. What is the film that you Okay, it's a tricky one. What's the gonna be most relate to? Well, I haven't actually seen it because I related to it so much that I couldn't get through it. And now I'm going to start this by saying I think that what I'm about to say is very cringe and wanky, because I think if anyone else said that, when people do say like, oh, it was so affecting that I

just couldn't. I just couldn't. I just thinking good, And it's like someone trying to give themselves an affectation and make themselves interesting. Really not the case. I watched Adaptation. I had seen it. I watched it as a teenager. I didn't get it. I was like thirteen or fourteen or whatever, and I was like, right, Okay. Then I remember being like I got really into Kaufman. I mean,

I'll get onto this. But sinnexc New York's best film ever made in my opinion, Yes, yeah, yeah, but so I like, I watched that and I was like, right, I've got to rewatch all of Kaufman. And then I bought that and I put it on and I watched the first ten minutes and where he's having his into a dialogue, and I related to it so much that I breaked out and not related to it like, oh my god, they're thinking my thoughts. I was like, it's really uncomfortable to hear the things that make me anxious

out loud and remind me of them. I was like, I found it horrific. Yeah, and I was like, oh, I'm not why to put myself through this. It wasn't like I like, I'm going to be very clear about this. It wasn't like a like a oh my god, no. It was really just like, ah, shut up, shut up, hut no, no, no no, no, no, I'm not having no way, no way. Why wouldn't know. It's like, you know, I don't want to hear them out loud in my head. Yeah, it's it's a very great adaptation. I totally get that.

But it's also I think it's so there is a thing. The reason you're uncomfortable with it is because he's doing the brave version of this is what it's like to be right, Like, I think this sort of funniest thing. And I even hate to even say this myself, like I understand it. But he sits down to write and he has a whank, and then he goes back to write and then he has a whank, and it's like that is brave to say that that is your writing process.

Oh my god. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I mean there's the only thing that doesn't happen in the writing process is writing. Yeah, I've done everything in the world during the writing process. I like, bought a country, got married. Yeah, you like you will do anything like I remember, like color coordinating my shirts and the cubos. I mean that's not even the maddest thing. Yeah, anyway, it's I remember those things from when I saw it as a teenager.

But yeah, I've never watched it because I kind of feel like you reset at like eighteen, and so you could watch all the films you've watched before you're eighteen, and it would be a new experience because I mean I watched Missus Doubtfire over Christmas, which, by the way, holds up, holds up so well, it's incredible I mean there's I'm there are some troubling things like as far as like you got this guy's a dressed as a cheek at right, that's crazy kind of thing, like why

would anyone do that? You know? But I just think it's a sort of classic family thing. Is the structurally and communically brilliant. But I understood like seventy jokes that I didn't, Right, Okay, So I think we're about to get to it, right, what is objectively the greatest film ever made? Right? It's difficult to separate your favorite and the greatest some people find it. If some people find it, isn't what I sort of mean by this is, for example,

you mentioned like Sinder's List. Some people might say Sinder's greatest film, but I'd be surprised if it was your favorite, right, because you're not going, let's course of course. Yeah, I think that my favorite is definitely snectically New York. That is like, right, so you've answered that question, your favorite New York, which I fucking love. Yeah, I've watched it maybe forty times. Yeah, I just I can't because you know,

people like, oh, it's very layered about films. It's literally layered in the sense that there are things like going on in the corner of the screen that are hot that add a whole not like thematic like narrative, like stuff going on that adds to the narrative, like you work out. But the guy's been watching him the whole time, he's been studying him, and that the first scene is three months. You know that the opening breakfast scene takes

place over three months. You know, if you were right, what's her forty own times the beginning scene of him getting up and getting ready for working, then if you like, pay attention to what's happening on the news on the telly, Yeah, it's time is past my god. Yeah, well there you go. No you're not. I didn't. I did. I mean, I think I read that and then watch it was like, oh fuck. But it's just unbelievable. I just I just think that everything about it, the way it's the perfect

depiction of anxiety. Yeah, it's it's like, I don't know how he did it, just it's so big. But I went to a talk with him. Yeah, we didn't go together to watch a talk Charlie Kaufman. I went to see him talk after a Q and A after a normally sa yeah, and people were asking about it and

he's so. I think he's very proud of it. It's the only film that he directed, wrote, but he said that he feels like he's sort of fucked the independent film industry with it because it was a rare because he'd become a rare sort of household name, a subversive independent filmmaker, and finances were like, let's as an experiment, let's fund the shit out of this Charlie Calthton film and see how it doesn't box office, because you know, with Eternal Sunshine and all that stuff, you know, he's

starting to become a real He's a reason why people will go and see the film, which is so rare with a writer or a director in the grand scheme of things. And it came out and it was the masterpiece that it should have been, but I think, like, no one wins to see it. Yeah, I mean, for a start, it was called senect Key New York title was this mistake And the length it's off putting. That's three hours of one God, but imagine if it was shorter. It is just yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just I'm so

intimidated and in awe of it. And also there's something about it. I was telling with someone there, you know this about it. You must not this because you're obsessed with it. That it started from I don't know who the producer was, but some producer wanted to do like a horror right, yeah, and they went him and said, what would you do with the horror film? And that's what he Yeah, there's a little passage about that in

this and there's there's the script book of it. Yeah. Yeah, but it makes complete sense as its fear of death and illness and completely and being lonely. Yeah, and just like and again such a huge influence for me, Like it's that my thing is like a put It is like a cross between that and like a horror film. But that because I made that short. Yeah, not sort of boring talking about my own stuff, but just like how much of an effect it has. And it's funny.

It was Sky Horror shorts. That's why I made that thing. And my understanding of what a horror thing is is something that just makes you feel sick with how like horrible a crisis the person is going through and the thing that's so no, no, that's what you will hear for is that he his whole the whole film, he's obsessed with I'm ill, I'm dying. I'm ill, I'm dying.

I must have cancer. I must have And in fact, he outlives everyone in the whole film, every single person that he cares, but he is elder than them, and they all die and he was never ill. He actually was incredibly well, but he could never. The whole film is it's attempt to live in the moment and be present and be happy and be Yeah, God, it's fucking brilliant. Yeah, So I think I don't know. I sort of didn't want to give that as my answer because I think

it's it feels pretentious to say. I think because of the title, I think that there's contenders, Like I think the City of God and Redemption, Yeah, two of the best. Like when I think of like the perfect like Hollywood film, the Shortshank Redemption, Yeah, But when I think of like the best story told, like when again do you think about vastness and like a world, I think The City of God is like, yeah, a phenomenal bit of work.

It's just ridiculous how much time it covers and how many great characters there are in it, and the way the narrative is so fractured but hangs together like nothing else is amazing. That was my one I carried around with me as a teenage to be like, fucking watch this, mate, this is fucking cool, which makes me cool because because I'm holding it, you still like I. I think people people always aligned themselves with stuff like that, especially as a teenagers. When you like a band, it's like you

never guess who are like the Strokes. Therefore you said it everyone together. He's cool. He technically made that music because he likes it. Yeah, I saw Reservoir Dogs. You've seen it. That That was me. It's cool you just that sentence. I saw Reservoir Dogs at midnight at midnight. That was your answer to when they called your name in the register. David, Yeah, Peter, yeah, Brett. I still Reservoir Dogs at midnight. One else. So that's really good answer.

I'm so happy to because I fucking loved that film and i'voiced it a lot, and it isn't it's not easy, but I think what probably way it might be definitely a contender for greats. You're right, this fucking so much in it. You could watch it on your times, and there's more and more performances as well. Yeah, and Diane Law at least. Yeah, I mean Samantha Morton as well. Yeah. Yeah, I always love seen I always loved seeing the British

person and that. Yeah, something that cool. And there's a wonderful running sort of weird joke that they go looking for apartments in his stage shows around it has it some fire you guys, do you have any questions? Yes, I'm slightly worried about the fire. I'm so, I'm slightly worried I might die on the fire. Yeah, there's that bit that's so funny. They're in therapy philipsy Moore Hoffman and Katherine Thingy. She's like, I want to be completely honest with him, and she's like, I just can't stop

thinking about like somethings. She says something like I just find myself really frequently fantasizing about your dying. Yeah, And the therapist is like, and how does that make you feel? It's like, yeah, so bad. Yeah, And there's a line in it and I forget that that's but it's from that I think about or maybe every day, and I always worry that this is what relationships are that. There's a scene quite alien where he and his wife are sort of having a chat and he says that like

do you not love me anymore? Or something like that, and she says, you know, it's not your fault. Everyone's disappointing. Wants to get to know them. Oh, yeah, everyone's disappointing. Wents you get to know them? And how true? Though? Yeah, yeah, it's so true. Do you always think about that? I was talking to someone about that someone was I was out with someone else though, was saying that about historical figures you could reconstruct, like every hero probably was doing

something a bit dodgy apart I have. I don't do anything anything, do nothing to avoid doing anything bad. Don't like to be negative on this. What's the worst film ever made? With this answer, I will just spring to the first thing that springs of mine, and I also I won't say my honest answer for it. I'll say my worst experience of watching a film. Okay, when I was in Cyprus, I went I went on hold Cyprus with my sister Yea, and my dad palmed me off

on a cousin of mine. One evening he's like God, God, and the one cinema in Cyprus when my friends, when people ask me from Cyprus, oh, where does all my dad used to live there? And go where does your dad live in Cyprus? I go near the cinema the whole of Cyprus anyway. So my dad was like, go ahead this even he didn't have to take you out. This an odd guy. Let's go. And we're in the car and the way they goes, what do you want to see? Then we're like, oh, God, I don't know

what's on. He goes, the one is that you've seen in three three as a film called three. He's like, yeah, what's six? Right? What cinema? We are we going to? Like a cubist cinema. I don't even know what I mean by that, but I don't know. And then we got to the cinema and on the posters they're just massive numbers over the films. Wow, there's and we overheard like loads of green people. I don't need three years,

but anyway, have you seen one? And uh? And there are all these things I like, I remember it's like my super ex girlfriend and Pirates of the Caribbean two or something. And we went out to the thing and my cousins before we'd even had a chance. He's at the till going four Three Things before Please, which was the Lake House start, and it's about time traveling two people who live in the house about a hundred years apart or something, and they find that they can send

each other love letters. And it was so boring and ship It's just like nothing, like just something I would never even you know, there are certain shots that you near your house, that you passed for fifteen years. You just would never even know they exist unless someone was like, look at that now, Like it's just a film that I would never even knew. It would have just come and gone. I would never have known. But somehow I was sat in there watching it and my cousin left

after twenty minutes. You just go little coffee, doesn't want coffee. I'm like, you didn't have for a coffee. I know there's not a coffee shop in the cinema, so you're gonna have to go to the shop. During number four. Yeah, so he goes for coffee, doesn't come back for an hour and ten minutes, and then he comes back and I'd like been trying to make myself go to sleep because I was so bored. And he comes back and he goes, what did I think? And I'm like, it's

the worst one I've ever seen. He goes, I think it's quite good. And then when he dropped us off, he didn't drop us off as at our house. He dropped us off on the motorway, just opened the door and went okay now. And then he went, hey, do you like Fish? And I went not really no, and he drove away. It would be never so on him. I did just crashed his car into a wall. If you like fish? What is the film that you could you could or have? What's the mazed over and over again?

Might have watched over and over again. It's probably something like Speed when I was a kid chaining it. But I don't think I could do that over and over again now, Inglorious Bastards things to mind. I just think Tarantino is There's some questionable stuff floating around about him, but I just I think that he is a stamp of quality to me, if he's got I just love everything he's ever made so much, and I think Inglorious

Bastards is the height of that. I just think that if a film has quality dialogue, the whole way through, which is what defines his films, I think, more so than the blood and stuff. I think that it's just his very unique thing that no one else does, and it's like it's people can try and imitate it, but it will never be dampened because you can't imitate it because it just it's just him that does it. But yeah, inglorious bastards. To me, it's just yeah, yeah, point of

making a good dialogue I think doesn't get old. I think if the film is reliant on plots being shocking throughout, you can get bored because when you watch it again as we're not shocked by it anymore. But it's the dialogue holds up the whole way through, like and yeah, he's very maskerful with that. I just think that also a unique take on war is welcome. Yeah, I know it's sad, it's crap, and I always worry about the morality of benefiting off of that stuff, but I guess

the whole redemption aspect of it is quite refreshing and questionable. Yeah, yeah, questionable, but it's really in a way in the end, I think I don't know about how I feel about it. In I guess it's kind of silly, but it's also as a film, it's really satisfying to see Hitler get killed and it's a really like yeah, and maybe that's very bad. I don't know the sort of ethics of doing that, but I would be lying if I didn't

find it a really exciting Yeah. I think if in my heart, if I'm completely honest, I'm like, well, why not have an examful of that? Yeah? Yeah, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I got enough father, right, It's like it's galvanizing and in the way it worked as a twist because you are watching the film game, I mean, it's gonna go away and it doesn't, and it's a real twist. You go, I wouldn't expected that because what happened in real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, completely,

I think that's yeah. But then that but what that does is it it stamped it, like solidifies it as like, Okay, this is complete fiction. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah. But then there's all you know, there are so many there are so many that have that the repeat watch quality about them. I don't know what it is that makes a film that I think the dialogue maybe really good We're Huntings one I just can't get enough of.

I love that film. I think I just find Matt Damon very satisfying in it, just as a man, just like looking at him in it satisfying. Fellow. Yeah, good Fellows is one st New Yorker. What's a billion times? Yeah? Great? What is you know? You're in comedy. You're very funny, you make funny, staff Man, what's the funny? The most? I just think it's so rare that that ever happens. I just don't love many comedy films. I think that the most I'd laugh in the film is we Came Together. Really, Yeah,

I don't think it's like that. I think it's it's in a completely different it's almost not a film because it's such a parody, like it's like the sort of it's sort of an equivalence like scary movie or something as far as like it's like a Hybrusco movie exactly that. To me, it's like it feels like it's only just a film. It's basically just a long sketch. But I think it's also because I smoked weed the night that I watched it, and I hadn't done for like two years and I just had the best time, and I

don't necessarily always pressed myself laughing. I don't remember always finding films really funny when that was the case, but I was like, at the time, I felt like it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life, and that memory, I haven't seen it since. So that and I think super Bad is pretty amazing. Yeah. I don't know if it has repeat value, but I think

it stands up. I just think Michael Sarah and Jonah Hill's chemistry is lovely and there's so at the time, I think it was such a unique voice that I think has been done enough now that you're like, oh, I get it. Yeah, So I don't know. I don't know if I have the answers to that. I think we came together. Stating is a great answer. Yeah, I mean I think I love like, there are so many comedy films that I love. I don't find that funny, like all of Michael wins Bottom and Steve Coogan stuff.

I think it's incredible. Twenty four Our Party People is perfect. I love a cock and ball story. Yeah, anchor man, I think it's genius to tell the bigod Night stepbrothers all great stuff, but I don't know what it is. Chuck all my head off. That's okay, appreciate your honesty.

You're in comedy, You're miserable. You've been a wonderful guest. Thanks. Now, when you popped outside to check on that hallablly that was caused by a tweet and everyone's whacking around and you got head when you got nicked on the head and you've heard the floor, they just no one even notice.

They carried on whacking around and your body got sliced into hundreds of bits, splattered all over the street, right but now one it was like it looked like you know the tomato throwing thing that they do in Spain, and no one even noticed. Splats bats And when finally the personally said that original tweet did a video apology where they said, I'm so sorry I did that tweet. I don't they found out what happened to me. Then no one knew you were dead yet they just said

I'm sorry did that tweet them? So of course that's a hubbub. I don't mean what I said. I appreciate that I've offended everyone, and I now understand my accidents have consequences and words her people, and I'm so sorry. And then there was a few more essays, some saying that apology wasn't enough, some say that play wasn't good. About a couple of weeks pass and then something else

having everyone forgot about it. When everyone finally calmed down about that and moved on to the next thing, they looked out in the street and your body was fucking not only splattered, but they already started writing are you joking? It was all It was quite bad. And because I was like, where's Jamie. We haven't seen him in a while, right, And we knocked on your door and your flatmate was watching Fantom Fred again and said he said, I put Fantom Fread on because I thought it would like draw

him back in, but he's not come back. And then I was like, you see that bit on like the doorstop. It's got his eyebrow. Because I've got my it looks like one of my eyebrows, but I've got both of my nose, so I knew it was yours. And then we found bits of you all over anyway, right, We basically all of that scrape up bits of you from all over the street, and then some people found it in their hair from the hubbub and stuff like that. So there's ship everywhere. I'll be honest, you riffing all this.

It's not just it's not just yet. It's bits of like pebble bits. Some of it went in the bin. There's a bit of dog shit. I'm sorry, but you know they were the bridge and anyway, we scraped it all together, bits of you, but it's a dog shit, bits of hedge, some post sorts of mulch leaves because it was autumn. Anyway, we run to pack you into the coffin, but unfortunately because of all the extra stuff that was by the way, it's just stuff that was

stuck to you. It's absolutely Rammo. It's Rammo in the coffin. There's no room in there, like let me go to Heaven. There's don't see room in there for one DVD. Right, I'm going to slip it in the side and take it with you. And on the other side, there's a movie night every night and one night it's your movie night.

What film are you going to take to everyone? I was going to say this is England because I love it so much and it's a big influencer style wise for the stuff I'd like to try and make, but a bit bleak, yeah, bit to heaven. So I thought,

what is is a toss up with you? And they're both docks because I think that documentaries and the more and more upliftings they actually mean something, and it's between Yeah, you know, I was going to say nothing like a dame, but not that, because that's about life, not about death. That doesn't mean anything. Minds are his next goal wins. We've seen that. It's a documentary about the worst international football team in the world. Our next goal wins, I thought, said,

next girl wins. Yes, yes, next goin, next goal wins. Yeah. That I watched, and then I watched again, and I watched again. I watched it three times in a row. It was just so uphoric and it's funny and charming and brilliant, and I think that it's not necessarily something that everyone's watched. You're the first person to take a documentary what a guy? Well, I'm not if you know, I like, but I'm not. I think that that is what everyone's going to be wanting in heaven because it's

in line with the heavenly qualities. It's a great answer. And I think in a way that religion didn't take a film about anxiety and death that you ye next to New York is being left on for everyone to treasure. Yeah, because he now got to having that. I didn't need that didn't need of anxiety. But nothing like a Dame is very good. That's the actors it's about. Yeah, Maggie Smith everywhere, y yeah, yeah, that's brilliantly well. Jamie Dmitri, what an absolutely joy you've been. Thank you so much.

I think you're fine from the feedback you get from this, that you should be yourself more often. It's not so bad. It's a shame you died on the day you found that out. Thank you for coming enjoying seven Heaven. Is there anything you need to plug or say before you go, Oh, I'm going to the parb it a bit. He's going to if anyone wants to. Actually not really, isn't He's going to watch again? Yes, please, thank you for being here,

and good day to you. Goodbye. So that was the end of the episodes that have been the rewind classics for now, what's a classic? Wasn't it a classic? Though? To mean it was a classic anyway, wasn't it anyway? Jamie Dimitrio, what a funny boy. Watch all this stuff. He's fucking brilliant, you know that. Thank you everyone for listening.

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