Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, a director, a joy bundle, and I love film. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said, always do what you are afraid to do, like watch skinnemer In ink on your own in an empty cinema. Go I'm big boy, you can do it. Every week I invite a special guests over.
I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that mean the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even Yed Blambles. But this week it's the wonderful comedian actor and writer. It's mystery and sterling. This week little announcement, Shrinking starts on Apple tv Plus. The show co created by myself and Bill Lawrence and Jason c. Give it a watch, your bloody love it. It's on
Apple tv Plus from the twenty seventh of January. Go on have a look. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you're getting extra twenty minutes of chat with Ian. We laugh a lot, We talk about beginnings and endings. He tells me a secret. You get the whole episode uncut and ad free. Check it out over at patreon dot com Forward slash Brett Goldstein so Ian Sterling is an excellent comedian who became
a national treasure as the voice of Love Island. He then went on to co create Right and Start in his own show for ITV Buffering Season two starts now has started, is about to start. Look out for It. It's fucking great. I've known him for years. We were starting out and stand up around the same time. He's a lovely, brilliant man and it was a pleasure to catch up with him on Zoom. We recorded this on Zoom a few weeks ago, and I really think you're
gonna love it. He's fucking brilliant. He is. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two and thirty two of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by a stand up, a ninety nine clubber, a dog at his homeworker, a bit cbbcer, a sitcom writer, actor, show runner, a creator, a husband, a father and to and because of his sterling and I didn't even mean to say it that way,
but let's call it what it is. Sterling work as the voice of Love Island. He is, of course a national treasure. Please welcome to the show. He's finally here. It's the one that ili Can you believe it's him? It is here? He is? Is he Instling? Hi? Instling? How are you? I cheered myself. I don't know how I feel about that. No, you were right too. It's a it's an impressive, impressive list you've got there in the intro. Thank you for that lovely intro. It was
very flattering and a nine to nine clubber. I think it's the most I think that's the most niche, niche introduction I've had on a podcast. Well, you and I sort of started similar times, didn't we. And we spent a lot of time doing gigs at the ninety nine Club, the excellent comedy franchise in London. There was certainly about a six or seven month period where it was me and you basically gigs together. I would say four nights a week. Yeah, I'd say we were we were the pillars,
the pillars of the ninety nine. Yeah, like they've done they've done their job, but they weren't hugely entertaining. They were solid and they held up the ceiling, but it didn't take You were like you appreciated that they were there, but there was other stuff going on that was far more interesting. Yeah, you've had a very buried and excellent career. And you would did CBBC's early on in your stand up right, yeah, yeah, did you love that? Yeah? So
I don't stand up. I started stand up first, but then like I'd only been been a stand up like five six months, and I've done an open spot at the comedy Store. So those that don't know an open spots, but you do like five minutes for no money, and he decided if you should be paid at a later day in the well and in terms of the comedy store fifteen years and counting, so still open to offers um. And then there was a sort of a drunk lady there on a night who said she was a kid's
TV producer and not the opposite. I didn't believe it. I thought she was obviously I thought it was mad because I guess you'll you'll know this, like, especially when you start doing comedy, you just want a reaction, so you tend to be a lot ruder or like controversial. And also when we when we started comedy, comedy was shocked, wasn't that was the whole thing, the sort of Frankie boyle Mark the Week generational sort of thing. So I wasn't very child friendly, so I thought it was a
wind up. And then I went home. I didn't stay in London. And then a few days later the comedy sort phoned up and went, oh, the Children's BBC called asking for your details, because obviously they don't know comedy, so they just assumed it like I played that comedy club full time as my job or something, but fair played time, are getting in touch and yet then the
rest is history. To me, what do you think they saw in you if you were doing five minutes of filth and pedo jokes that they were like this guy this guy's kids TV present. I think I had one bit about going on holiday with my family on a caravan that obviously ended in a pedo joke. Of course it did, of course, of course I did but the start was sort of quite sweet about being young and
gore on holiday with my family and stuff. And also I think they'd had a London guy be the presenter before me, so they wanted a not English person because that was that was that was diversity back then, someone not someone not from London. Honestly, they were literally like, oh, look how progressive we're being this guy. This guy's went he went to state school, he can't speak properly. This we've absolutely smashed it here. So yeah, I think I think I got I got quite lucky on that front.
I'm I said, obviously, and Jess, I'm very grateful to
the BBC for those fun, fun years be that. But essentially I was a young person that wasn't from London and it was at the time when TV producers used to hang around London and give people from London jobs, so they couldn't believe I was there really And then you, because I remember when you first started on Love Island did like before it was before it was a smash, like right when it started, and you were like, I'm going to have to do this thing, and then suddenly
you were selling out the pleasants ground. I yeah, it was it was sort of wild the Love Island thing, and again it was I don't know how interesting this is to people, but in the in the world of like comedy, especially back when we started, it was sort of like, I'll use the word purist, but I think it was sort of more cynical than that. But like the idea of doing something that wasn't stand up to further your stand up was sort of frowned upon, right,
do you know what I mean? So, like me doing the voice over on a reality TV show was sort of seen as a huge gamble, which which seems bad now, even in the sense that I was basically getting paid money, which at the time I didn't have any money at all, and they were going to pay me money to be on the Telly and I was like, oh, but I need to do Edinburgh Fringe Festival and stuff and like comics and comics, and I was thinking the same A lot of them are like, oh, I wouldn't bother doing
that because you'll not get you'll not get booked for you know, Radio four or Latitude or whatever if you do that. And now you've got obviously people that sort of no one gets bigg in stand up through stand up these days and then get worst way to get big instand up. If you want to get bigg in stand up, stay away from stand up. That's the worst thing. You're trying to get big instand up, intand up. If you're doing stand up instead of recording a podcast. What
the fuck are you thinking? How are you How are you going to sell any tickets to anything? If you think diligently applying your craft year after year is a way to get people to come and see your craft, you're insane. Get in the jungle. Come on, let's make this happen. And then now you have you're a bloody show runner. You're a co creator, right, yeah, star, have your own income. Yeah, tell me how that experience was for you. Particularly you've got a second season coming out. Congratulations,
Thank you so much. Man. The first season and how much we like this is incredible, and how much we like this is so stressful and overwhelming. I have no idea what's going on. So we filmed the first two episodes pre COVID, and then filming stopped in the middle and the first episodes were blessed because me and my friends Baja who wrote it together, sort of this is a bad thing. But we were, and I mean that in that we were. Let we wrote the first episodes,
it got commissioned very quick. I think I had a sort of because I've done It's about kids TV and had loads of son about kids' TV, so there's lots of sort of solid in terms of like when you pitch a thing, I had quite a lot of like funny stories and love Islands sort of popular and stuff. So we just got given this thing and they were like make it, and we at the time, I didn't
know how quickly they wanted us to make it. We had like a few months and we didn't have like any like producers or script editors or anything, and we neither of us had written a thing. So we've sort of the first two episodes were this like forty five minute pilot essentially, but because we've never done it, we
didn't realize obviously we were like bloke. So rather than stress, we're just like, wow, all these people are here because we wrote a thing, and then COVID happened and we had like a year and a half to like look at those episodes again, and we've got like really talented like script editors and producers and all that, and that's when the stress happened of like, oh, we've not said anyone's name or we've we the audience don't know why
any of this is happening. And so then then from then on d it was it was, Yeah, a lot of the stress came in and all that. So that there's the great thing at the second series. I feel like we've we learned so much on the first and now it is this sort of really collaborative and obviously we were we were I wasn't like show running or involved particularly in the show in the first series because
I didn't know what a mark was. I didn't know I didn't know where to like stand when you're acting, and I'd never like been involved in like an edit or directing or anything. I've done a bit of that since. So yeah, second series is a lot more collaborative. I'm involved it loads and like I'm just so like I'm in that stage where we've just finished sort of signed it all off and it's not on it and it's not it's a few weeks away from being on the
Telly at time of recording. So this is the scary bit. Well, I'm I'm in the blissful We've made a thing. I think it's amazing bit, and then I'm going to I'm about to hit the stage where you show it to your nearest and dearest and they don't sort of like die laughing and cry the emotional bits. Then you go, oh god, it's not the best thing ever and you start panicking, and then a few then a week before it comes out, and that is just horrendous, horrible. What
what's the deal? If I may ask, I'm always interested in creative partnerships. You and Steve, very funny Steve, who write and kind of created it together. Do you have a deal of like fifty fifty say, like you both have to agree on anything or how does it work? Absolutely, I've actually started applying my relationship with Steve to my marriage in terms of I feel like we've been so clear on how we're doing it to not cause any eruptions.
So it's everything's fifty to fifty down to the tiniest detail and the other thing we've got of any of us have here any news or development to have any thoughts. We've got a rule where you've got to sort of immediately textaphone the person tell them what's happening, so you know, you know, like from like oh I think Bladdy Blas hair should be pink all the way to like the boring stuff like oh, FYI, my agent's just called and I'm going to be getting I get a car in
today rather than getting the train, like just everything. We just completely tell everyone everything, and that open communication is actually has actually been phenomenal in all of my relationships. Well, I mean, but again, we both work in show business. You know that blacks have been broken up and worp things and someone showing up in a in a car while the other person's like got the train to work.
So yeah, that we try and completely split like everything. Really, he's because we work quite well in terms of like we always say, we used to write stand up that together. That's how we got into the world of like writing a sitcum And we always say with the reason we work quite well together when we do stand up is we look at it like in Steve stand up, you know what he's selling, but you don't know if you want it, And with mine my stand up, you want
it but you don't know what it is. That I'm more a vibe person and he's sort of a. He does a sing where he like writes jokes and stuff, which I'm not. I can't be bothered with all that. I'm just going to a funny concept and just see what happens. That's a perfect Purnose ship. Yeah, it's nice. So you're you're selling something that people want as a group. Yeah. I mean, if I got onto the cryptos seen earlier doors,
i'd have cleaned up. I think basically something of absolutely something of absolutely no value that you can trick people into thinking is incredibly important in the lives. That's my vibe. Steve's are more a Stocks and Shares guy. I think you're a stocks and I've seen a few of your shows. I think you're very stocks and you're in a good way. Stocks and Shares. You know what you're doing. Well, An here's what I'm presenting. But you might not want it. No,
but I want it, man, They're wanting it. Bits a bit that comes, the bit it comes, doesn't It always comes eventually. What's nice? You know those videos that people make where it's like I took a picture every day and their face changes. So I actually haven't seen you in person in probably four years, three years. Yeah, and in that time. But in that time, I've seen you a lot on this screen that I'm looking at you now, and this exact and this exact position, exactly exact position,
exact configuration. And during that time we we sometimes and played paper during Lockdown and stuff. And during that time I've seen you become go from man playing Baker in Lockdown, to a husband, to a Joe runner, to a father. And it's just every time I see it's like more and more. It's great, It's fucking beautiful. Man. But you went from writing a show none of us had heard of to swearing at the Emmy's. So I bet we've all we've all been on a joke, we've all been
on a journey. Yeah, and quickly we have to dwell on your private business. But has been a dad's been a thing? Is it a thing? Yeah? I'll tell you what. I did not know how much of a thing it was really is. Honestly, it doesn't want to let up the whole being a dad fan. And I love it, Yeah, I am. I don't know. I always it's so tricky talking about being a dad in the sense of like I really like fucking love like I really love it.
Like and then also like I always thought I'd be good at it, right, And in my life I've always thought I was going to be terrible at everything. I think it's because I, like, I don't know, like what school.
So I went to this sort of school where people were like that you mean you know, and you were like, don't have ambition, it's already it's sort of thing, and teachers would be I remember once in my school my friend Peter said he wanted to be a footballer, and the teacher said, why don't you be a postman like your dad? And it was just like that sort of
like vibe. But I've always have had it in my head that I would be good at being a dad, and I don't know, I think I'm sort of quite good at it, and I'm useless at it and I'm useless at everything else. So it's really nice. It's a really nice feeling. But then also at the same time, it's like as a comic, you're sort of designed to be like, oh, I've I'm never sleeping. It's awful, but like it's really great. I mean, I do sticker books six am. It's class, but yeah, I really like it,
and I hope. I hope. I do. Hope that comes across so people that haven't got kids. It's like a thing of like, I'm doing something I like, and if you've got a kid or kids on its way, like, I think it's sometimes nice to hear someone be like, oh, it's really great because as a dad, basically everyone just goes, oh, how old your kid? And you say the age and they go, oh, I'll wait till this stage it will
get worse. Yeah, that's all anyone ever does. Wait till they walk, then I'll be rubber, wait till they can answer back. Yeah. Yeah. So I quite like being like now it gets better every time. It's really fun. Well, it seems a shame that I forgot to tell you something that I'm now going to tell you. It seems a real shame. Actually, God, I feel bad about it. I forgot about this bit as well. After I've just yeah, I'm just talks about after I've just talks about my
my heavily dependent. I think we've assessed I very much need to be with it. Yeah, and yet oh man, you've died. I should I don't know how I agreed to do this awful ah, how did he die. Man, what a shame? No, do you know? Do you know how I died? No? Do you Yeah? Okay, great, choked on a sticker. You were helping your baby with a sticker? Books was there? Well? Yeah, to make me feel less guilty, I've made it that it's their fault. Okay. So baby hands your sticker mm hmm and says it's a fruit.
Let's go with a fruit sticker. It's a it's a it's a tangerine sticker. We're role playing, and I to to to get into the part. I pop it end. It's because of this is the sort of like sticky nature of a sticky nature of a sticker. There's a that's what what I sentenced. That is by a professional talker. It's sticks to my gullet. I'm I'm choking. Yeah, that's upsetting for the child. So to make them feel less upset,
I eat more. They're finding that fund the sticks. I eat more stickers to sort of light in the mood, and then that sort of congeals into a sort of plug. This is a heroic and dreadful death, I mean for you, for the baby. The baby at first is disturbed, then thinks that oh no, daddy's being funny and then daddy dies in front of bait. I mean, it's it, but they wouldn't know, they would not know. I style it out unbelievably, no trauma, absolutely nothing. They think it's hilarious.
We're all good. Okay, Well that's a lovely that's a lovely story. Do you worry about it? Do you worry about Yeah? I don't. I think it's a bitter A cliche, isn't it. But yeah, every every year it becomes more Every every year you get older, and oh my gosh, this is about from the positive about my child to like every year you get older and the people nearest and dearest till you get older, you worry more about the inevitable. To my eyes, I'd like that you I'm
in the middle ground because then I guess you. I would like to think you get to an age where you don't you're not okay with it, but you then come to terms with it. You mean, you are comfortable with it. There must be an age with that kicks. And I don't know. I don't know if it was on this podcast someone said it to me or I read it or something, but it's I mean, if I tell you this, it might halt you, but it was
the idea that it. Let's say you live to eighty, right, so you get to forty and you go, oh, well, I've still got the same amount of time left. But then the reality is time moves faster the older you get. When you were like one to ten, time took forever because there was only one to ten. But every year your life gets quicker. So you might have forty years left. Those forty years are probably really the equivalent of twenty,
you know what I mean? Actually yeah, And also you know that there's less years where you're going to be. And I don't even mean at the very end. I just mean like there's going to be years where you're like l or got a bad back. Oh my god, God, why did you bring this up? Do you think there's an Afterno? No, sad sadly, sadly, no, I think there is.
I think you live on through those people like nearest to you, and like this kid, he's going to be talking about that death for you would definitely live in an I'm going to live on by paying off therapist tax bills, stand up shows, probably do a stand up Oh my, have you that's how you're that's how you're. You are going to win the perier like that is phenomenal. Yeah, you're winning the word. You know you've done some serious damage.
My dad went out like my dad went out like Tommy Cooper at sex am on a popetrol stecka book what legend. And the show is called Tangerine. That's the name of the stand up show. Oh yes, and one name sangph so trendy ef and it's and it's your kid quite low in the poster, quite low holding a little tangarine and the rest of it. It's a lot of negative space and just tangarine. I was thinking, a lot of negative space. G knows upwards bottom of the
pie like ship. Did you ever draw those? Just like someone looking over the wall that and they just got a tangarin on their head. Yeah fu anyway, listen, listen, buddy boy, good news for you. There is enoughter life. There's a place you love it there it's filmed your favorite thing, what's your favorite thing? And pasta. It is made of pasta this place and it's the right you like it. You want to sit on a pastor seat. It's a little al dente perhaps that was I was.
I was going to give you the word, but I knew you had it in you. I believed in you everything. You're being served pastor by past the people, you know, those like macaroni men you see in the adverts. They're walking around the people chefs, those chefs, the chefs, but they're made of pasta. Or Oh that that makes more sense. I thought, you've been in Hollywood too long and you'd like people, get me a car, people, get me a car, people to take cupcake, the cupcake guy anyway, and the
guy Where's where's a letter? Guy? And they're very exciting to see you, and they want to talk to you about your life, but I don't want to talk about it through the medium of film. The first thing, and it's weird. And the first thing they say is what's the first film you remember seeing? Instantly it was in the cinema and it was snow White. Holy shit, I'm as rereleased. Unless you're much younger than you live. No, I think it must have been. I don't really remember
the time, because I don't. I'm trying to like I was born in nineteen eighty eight, so I think Snow White came out before them, but it was definitely in this. It was definitely in the cinema. And I don't really remember what sort of Disney films were actually released around the time I was born, but like, it didn't seem it was a full cinema. It wasn't like, yeah, I'm from I'm I'm from the streets, mate. I wasn't in some I wasn't in some bloody gaff and Hawkston like yeah,
I mean where someone's gone from yoga. Yeah, some pictures. You go from your pilates class to watch a real rereleased Disney number that is I Will Be You. I can't I I can't actually remember, but I was. I was walking, I was talking. My sister was there, who's two years younger than me. So I'm thinking, I'm going to ball park. It at five or six, And I think the reason I remember it is because obviously it
was my first the first trip to the cinema. The popcorn, the coolest this do you remember the This is a genuine of my first memories is the seat that fold. Pulling the seat down to sit on it blew my I thought it was the most the cleverest thing that had ever happened. And I remember just standing up and sitting down all the time throughout the whole film going How did I remember thinking, how does it know? How
does the seat know I've stood up? It was sentient? Yeah, I probably thought it was so Yeah it did you the late the Old the Lady when she's the old witch Lady. At the very beginning that I was nearly out the door with my mum. Really had to work to keep me in the cinema, and then obviously to dwart the Seven Dwarfs show up. I forgot the second part of the title of that film there for a second, and I had a real Aldente moment. Actually the seven Dwarfs,
the seven Dwarfs and all that. That was blessed. And then it gets sort of scary again towards the end. But yeah, no, I was scared of when she the Queen turns herself into an old lady for the whole Apple scenario. Yeah, that scared me. That's a great first film. What what about being scared? What's the film that's scaredy than most? I'm a huge horror fan, like like there
was a Your Is Your Wife? No, literally, well, I don't really watch it at all at all now really occasionally, but that was why all I went As a single man. In my early stand up days, all I watched was stand up DVDs and terrible horror films, And then I actually used to I was. I used to on Kids CB Ice Present with Hack of the Dog, and we lived together and he loved really bad horror films as well, so we just used to watch like so many awful,
awful horror films, like budget independent stuff everything. Did I know you and Hacker the Dog lived together? We live? We lived together? Yeah? Once, Yeah, we lived together, and he used to all the hobb was all multi colored because he used to die fleece when he built puppets, and then he would never clean up after himself, so that we had a sort of multi colored hobb. Phil Fletcher you should get him on Instagram. He makes all
these puppets from scratching their front. He's a phenomenal talent. Actually. Yeah, so I love horror films. But the film that scared me the most when I was a kid, it's quite a bad horror film. It's Blair Witch Project too. Oh, Book of Shadows, I think so, Yeah, I just remember being a big way. I just remember me and my friend Mark used to watch horror films as a kid, and then we'd like scare each other, like do you mean when we'd got the toilet, we'd hide and like
all that sort of stuff. But for some reason, halfway through the Blair Witch Project Too, a Book of Shadows, we just looked at each other and we're like, not tonight, not tonight, it's too much. I remember them all being locked in some sort of like office or warehouse or something at the near the end, and we were like, this is insane. We're like, why would anyone? How did it not that thing? When you thought, how do the
people think this up? Oh? Yeah, I was watching because I was watching Fresh recently with my wife and mother in law. So you know that film where they sell the body, Yeah, the day's Edgar Jones, and my mother in law was just sort of going the people that thought this upper sick angry at them. I mean, there's
some truth in it, I think. I mean, I think it's sicker to come up with Majester by the Sea, Like I go, oh, you sat around dreaming up what would happen before your kids died in the fire and a fire and then you were really stoke about it until you got questioned by the police near the end. They're either mad or they want an oscar. It's one of the two, and it's not for us to decide what's happened with that. What about crying that, you were crying?
What's the film made crying about? Mate? The most exciting thing about this question is it happened three days ago. Oh wow, literally three days ago. A man called auto no buddy, full disclosure. I was up in Scotland and my obviously we've not really got grandparents so around in London, so my mom and dad took the little one, so we went out for a meal and we were literally walking past the audience on the way home. We went, was going to go and see whatever's on it was
a man called I was to be full disclosure. I was sort of a bit gutted really for a two hour Tom Hanks from where Nothing happens, Fuck's sake. It was. It's beautiful, man, it's so amazing, and it's just so lovely and like heartwarman. But then there's all all the cliched sad stuff at the end happens and there's a scene I don't want to do like spoilers because it's like in this cinema, but there's a scene where he basically gives this couple like like a thing that was
like really important to him growing up. He's very plays a very stoic, lonely man, and he sort of befriends this family, becomes like ingratiated with the family. It's gorgeous forms an amazing filmed, It's filmed brilliantly. And then yet I've never had, well, I have, but not in like the last fifteen years, a physical reaction where like I just like threw myself back. There was also too four of us in the cinema, me and my wife included, so I really I could really let go, and I
was had. I'd had a bottle of red wine and a lovely mail, so I was I was on a lovely headspace and I knew I wasn't up for a child the next day, so I was like, let's let's let rip rip. But yeah, that's that is the most I've cried at a thing. And I couldn't tell you how long did you did your wife? Was you looking at you like your mad? Oh? Yeah, I don't think. I think if you can that film is like like that film is made to put like rickage your vase
would watch that and be like fair play. You've put the music in the right place, You've touched on all the right topics. That is brilliant. And also I think it comes across. I don't mean that as a criticism. It's like phenomenally well done. On either side. It's brilliant. It's so brilliant. Oh interesting, you have to see it. The good thing about it is it's great saying things in this obviously, but it's one of the It's not you have to see it in the cinema film, right,
you have to watch it on your own. I think, oh my god, it's so sad. Yeah, if it's gonna make me cry, and definitely seeing it. Good man, man, What about a film? What's the film that you love? Most people don't like it, it's not critically acclaimed, but you think it's fucking brilliant. Well, I mean there's about seven to choose from here, because for me, it's the wrong turn franchise. Oh wow, that is I don't think. I don't think that's come up in Maybe it came
up once, but definitely not the franchise as a whole. Oh, it's phenomenal. That's a lot of wrong terms. Seven wrong terms will send you straight back to where you started. I have thought, not in this not in this film. There's just people. People take a wrong turn, they get killed. Then there's the credits. Then a film starts. It's but it's brilliant. It's so bad and so brilliant, and they always seem to get the right side of Like it's
it's like a horror film. You can I reckon, you could watch on your own and be afraid, but you can watch it. What's amazing you watch wrong turn films is a collective. You'll get the person that hates horror film who will be absolutely shitting himself right, people that like cinema who will be furious that it's happening. And then people that are like can see the funny side of it, will find it's so funny. It just touches
every topic. Like there's always an attractive couple at the start having sex in the open for no reason whatsoever. They get killed horrifically like some deformed person, and then another then another film begins. Every time it's so great, they're so great. I think Wrong Turn two is probably
the best. Right or Wrong Turn six is good as well, though you devoid, Yeah, there's one where they well, there's one that's not edged brilliantly because it's set in the sort of world of social media, and it's like funny watching what people in two thousand and eight thought social media was going to be. Like it sort of dates it a lot. But they're all good. I mean, none of them are. None of them are critically they're not like, yeah, they're not like certain horror films. I don't think any
of them critically acclaimed. Do you know what my horror franchise of choice that I love? I just think I'd love to have it. I'd love to have a bang Hells of Eyes. No, the paranormal activity, oh my god. But then see the thing with par normal activity what
it has that wrong term doesn't is paranormal activity. One is great, It is actually good cinema both right, but then they went cash in later like saw like Paranorma, where's wrong term was shit and it's still it's just got shitter basically wrong term was shit and then they just made it cheaper for nine times impressive. Great, What is a film that you used to love, but you've seen it recently and you do not like it anymore. For whatever, this is your Yeah, this is the one
I don't listen. There's I've listened to quite a few of these podcasts. I think this is a bit of a cliche answer. But it's an American Pie, Okay. I understand. As a teenage boy, I thought was so hilarious and sexy, and and then obviously now you watch it, you go, oh, that's why a lot of men are a problem. Literally, you watch American Pie and you can explain you could
explain a whole generation of creeps. Oh my god, A in American Pie they hide a webcam in a girl's room, and it's like, see there's this like really great thing that's about to happen. I have talked about this before, now any is it wild? But it's wild and it wasn't wild. It's just me. It's absolutely insane. It's absolutely insane. There's like a recently, I couldn't believe it when I I sort of like watched it again and years ago, and then it made me think about that whole generation.
And then there's like then you think of like all know that whole, like the bands of that generation that came just after that. In Day, all the lyrics and those songs are fucking mental, like insane because like the other day Pigeon Detectives, this is really off topic, but like Pigeon Detective Schema take her the song their first thing that was called take her Back, and it's about her being possibly too. It's I don't even, it's just
mad and like it's it's insane. And yeah, when you watch and it's so annoying because American Pie, Like, the music's so great, the performances are so great, and then every second concept in it is fucking horrific. It is a shame because there's also a real sweetness in that film and it's got quite a nice Yeah, the main character's relationship with his dad's so beautiful. Like, yeah, there's
so much nice stuff in it. There's a lot to love other than the you know, revenge porn and darkness, but other than that, it's a lovely The guy that the guy that taught a generation of boys that to give a given a seeming donation meant you've got a fair girl, stuck a finger up your ass for what And then he basically that was then that was him for the rest of his life. That's what. That's all that could happen. Yeah, oh my god, you can't. You sort of can't even talk about it. And I was like,
how mad is this? In a funny way, It's like, no, that's man, it's just collectively mental as well. That at the time, as far as I remember, I was very young, perhaps there were many people writing this is outrageous. I don't think anything. There was no like, there was no yeah, there was no like oh the Walk Brigade or after American Pie again, yeah, just like American what a legend. What is the film that means the nice to you?
Not necessarily the film itself is good, but the experience you had around seeing the film will always make it special to you. Well, I'm double lucky because it's a great film as well. I like a lot. I like a lot of terrible films. But and I mean that obviously fondly. Yes, but good Will hunting Man good film. Yeah, it's just basically, when I moved out of my flat, I moved so I moved up my parents to go to university. Him, I mate, Scott. We've both done law
but like Scott's amazing. But I was into like football and nightclubs. And he would stay at home on a Saturday and learned John F. Kennedy and once in Churchill speeches and had like leather bound books everywhere. And we were in this flat and we were like really close, and we didn't have a thing. And then basically Robin
Williams became our thing. And I'd never seen good gold huntsing, and he showed me yet I don't think i'd ever watched good stuff like I went to like I went like I listened to like hardcore house dance music when I was a kid, and then got into like like pop punk and at university, at university and like like went to football and like watched like American Pie and like footballer's wives and stood Hollyway and then like and then like he showed me like proper cinema. I mean,
I'm not saying I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it's like but like when you when cinema done well, get you. And I'm nineteen and I've never been exposed to that sort of thing in my life. I could I couldn't. I couldn't and it was funny. I thought it'd be dead bo we're in because obviously at school you go to like a player or whatever. But this was like it blew my It blew my mind, and like Epcot, it's got bit. I think it's got a bit ninety iconic scenes in it. Yeah, it's true. It
is true. It's really held held up. And perhaps he showed it to you because he was like, I'm Will Hunting. You don't understand me, but I'm here. Oh, I mean we we bought. If you watched Will Hunting as a man under the age of twenty five, you're watching it the whole time going, I am Will huntingfle Oh, I mean I was Ben Affleck. But Ben Affleck does I think he's Ben Affleck. I mean the job doesn't know he's a job right, I'm there wearing the same training
top ben Affleck's got on going, drinking a blagger. Probably good at maths up, terrible at maths going. I'm definitely Will Hunting. What is the film you must relate to instanding well, not annoyingly it is probably it is good Will Hunting. But if you can give me, well, I think the reason Basically, I felt like I was good while hunting, and since I went to my school, I was the only boy from my year to go to university.
And I don't mean that in Deneral I was. I don't mean that's a clever good Will Hunting thing, But what I mean was, I basically was taught like my school. You. I basically went to university and I met people that wanted to like be like actors and politicians and I mean all this stuff and I'd never been exposed to that world before, and it's sort of like blew my
mind in it. And I felt like that's what like Will Hunting was when he was exposed to like therapy and maths, and I thought like, oh, this is he's gone on this mad journey. And I really felt like university, I'd met these people who like went out drinking but also studied remaining like dated girls but then didn't get
in fights with bounce. I was just sort of like these I was like, oh yeah, I, oh yeah, there's a place that I sit in the world, which is what I felt like Will finds in that film, because although he's fighting against the whole world of like work and being a genius and having prospects and all that he's fighting against it. I think he does want to. It takes his friends tell them you can be both. That's I think that's what that I think that's what that film is for for Will, and it is him
realizing that you you're not. You don't have to be one thing. You don't have to you can be the guy from Southie and you can be a genius. I don't think he knew that was an option, because in the world we live in, you never told that's an option. Really, You're always told you do you're this thing or you're that thing. And that's basically what university was to me. I realized, ohya, I can be I can study and
work hard, and I can be a piss head. Yeah, fight, but I can fight bouncers and then write them a legal letter explain to them why they're wrong. That's very I really like that. I like that a lot. What is what is objectively the greatest film of all time? In standing objectively? It might not be your favorite, but it's the greatest. It's a it's a it's a good question. And again I'm not gonna but I could I mean, we could easily put good good will hunting could fall
into their right again. I'm gonna say I Daniel Blake, Wow, well, I mean full disclosure. I saw it in the cinema in Newcastle right the week it came out, and I've never been in a theater where literally no, it was only a little sixty seater and nobody left that theater for like five minutes after they like the end it. Like, I do think it's got really the performances in it
are like really on point phenomena. Yeah, it deals with like I think, really interesting socialists, which actually at the time, I don't think we're being massively portrayed on screen. I think there's sort of like particularly a working class man struggle was certainly not being being shown. And I just think it's sort of like sometimes filmmaking, I think this
is the way it's cut, edited, written. I think there's the thing when you're like you're I always say like sometimes like it's a film that like it's that whole idea of like what this sounds mad, but if you've like fry an egg, it's like really simple, but if you fuck it up, it's horrendous. And like they've just like there's all the basic parts in there because it's a really like stripped down production and they've just got them all right. So to watch it, I think that's
bang on. I really liked it. And again that's actually probably the most I've cried since I've watched him. A man called Auto. You know what, I'm gonna let you have it. I Daniel played the greatest film of all time? What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? It's it? Also good Hunting, It's good. No, it's it's bend it like Beckham. Oh yeah, go on sexy football film. Yeah. Well, I was a thirteen year old boy that was obsessed with football.
And then Keira Knightley came on Telly on the screen, who was she was probably like three years older than me, So in my head, I was like, there's a movie so that's my age that would date me in real life.
And she's like good at football, and she's like wears like she goes like sexy, cool clothes and a night out and like just chills out in our sports brow looking wicked and as a as a young man as I couldn't because again the sign of the generation, even a girl playing football was like what and and it being cool. Yeah, yeah, Kimer, Knightley and bend it like beckham Man great obviously as a thirty five year old man, what a horrible thing to say. Speaking of which, traveling
Boner is worrying? Why dunce a film you found a rousing you weren't sure you should? Oh, it's it's it's basic. But who framed Roger Rabbit? Bobkins? Yes, Bob Oskins? What a ride? And Jessica Rabbit? Is that a problem? She's so fit, she's a cartoon. She's not got a third D. She's got No, he's got two D. No, she's got she's two D. She's a two D with a lot of D. Yeah, is that you that's probably that's not problematic.
I'm just like, if if you're not meant to get a boner and I don't understand anything, I mean, well nothing makes sense. Well you want to be even more honest. Planet of the Apes. Now you're joking, which one the the original? The Oh god, no, they're oh, you're joking. They're both and in the original absolute mounts, in the original the remake, but the first one, not the planet
the original Planet of the Apes remake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, so you like sexy, you like Helen bonhom Carter Monkey, Helen Bonhom pop Carter Monkey is the Kia the Kira Nightley of my twenties. That is that is a nutsmaking respect. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Guys. The film what is the film you could or have watched
the most over and over again? Oh? Another another easy one for me, A ladder the originally right just again a bit of a bit of a I've tried to cut the Robin Williams references down because he appears in the four times a reference good Will Hunting. But it's I think it's the best voiceover performance of all time.
It's just flawless. It's it's amazing. I would all I'd almost there's definitely, I mean, this is I've not gotten done enough research to back this up, but it would be in the debate for the performance that lifts a film into Joe when like that one person just brings a film into that next echelon. Robin Williams is a genie, just takes that film from like great to like a
platinum classic. And it's a really really I was thinking about it recently, like it's a real it really suits his improv that film, Like they animate all his voices, you know, like in the parade and do it like it's a really good match of like animators and his stuff. There's loads of stuff online of your if everyone's that way inclined with like the original script plus what he did stuff like that. It's so great he basically wrote
He basically wrote the character in a booth on his own. Yeah, like, amazing, amazing, fantastic. We don't like to be negative instantly. What's the worst film you've ever seen? Oh? Well again by pure I have not been to seamon Ages due to recently having a child, but we've been twice this week and I saw the thing I cried the most and the worst film of all time, and it's called Babylon. It's fucking horrendous. It is that it is three hours and ten minutes long,
so it can already fuck off it is. What's annoying about it is it's got a bit three or four scenes that are like unbelievable. Margot Robbie is unbelievable in every sense of the world. Brad Pitt is Brad Pitt in the most in every sense of the world. It just goes on for fucking aging and it's so up its own ours. And I can just picture everyone involved in that film watching it back again and again and again, going aren't we aren't we clever? And there's like a
joke in it. I went, there's a joke in it where like they go like, oh god, there's like some reference to like mental people. They go, it's a lot like hanging out in Hollywood, and I'll go go away. And then at the end, the main character, I'm not going to ruin it for you because you might soon
to see it. The main characters like crying. It's like like they've also got like a countra zoom close up happening, and they start showing like all other cinema from history, and like, oh, how important making film is and our films the film that's going to tell the story of
how important film is. And by this point the film's ended nineteen times and I'm just like, oh, what a waste of a amazing Like there's so many elements of it that are brilliant, and then they just tried to be really clever for no reason, and it's just oh God, I hated it. Well, I bet you liked it. I did like it, but but I didn't know an awful lot of people that really hates it. And I definitely
went in with low expectations because everyone hated it. And I went on a Sunday morning and I watched it, and I was like, you left, you left on Tuesday afternoon. Hi, I think I really liked it. But I get it. I get what you're saying, and you're not aligning feeling that. Yeah, I really liked it. What is You're in comedy? You're a very funny comedian. What's the film that made you laughter most? You're crazy? Well, I'm not. Probably anchor Man,
funny film. It's a funny film. Yeah, probably anchor Man and made me laugh the most, as in like I'm talking like absolutely like laugh out loud again. Could be like a bit to do with timing. I was. I was like prime chilling out in my recently in my flat share watching a thing with the guys where you could like quote it back at one another and all that,
but just really funny, that same sort of ladding. I guess Genie, I probably sort of vibe, which I quite like, Like I've said that before, Like I like the sort of the vibe of a joke rather than like the craftsmanship of it I appreciate. So it's probably a lot of that involved. I think, Yeah, they're all really good in it, which is obviously helpful. Costumes are funny. I thought, there's a there's not there's not a moment of that film that they're not trying to be funny, which is good.
Everything about at the names of the characters, the way they're dressed, even the way they're sort of like weirdly eighties nineties like sort of like vignettes and stuff they used to like cut between scenes are sort of funny. It's funny. It's funny. It is just funny. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah,
you're wrong, it's funny. Instanding you've you've been a joy. However, when you were doing a sticker album with your baby, Sticks in the morning and you and the baby handed you tangerine sticker and you said you being a natural clown pretending to eat the tangerine, and tangerine got ludged in your gullet, your word, and suddenly you were choking, and the baby looked distressed, and you were like trying to say no, no, everything's fine, but you couldn't, so
you grabbed a load of tangerine stickers and threw them on top of the other tangerine sticker. Yeah, that's creating a mulche cork in your throat. And you were diet I mean you couldn't breathe no one else. Your wife was out, and the baby's laughing and laughing in your game. Well leave the morning more and yeah yeah yeah, did a spin and you fell onto your back, baby crying, laughing, and luckily your wife comes home sooner, moves the baby out, goes.
Ian's being silly on the floor, picks up baby, they go out. I'm walking past with a costume, you know what I'm like, and I go checking on me and I haven't seen him in person, an awhile go in there. You are dead on the floor and because of all the tangerine stickers uvating, your absolutely bloated. Your whole body is like a fucking balloon. So I grab some knives start chopping you up. Stuff goes everywhere, chopping you up
into little pieces. Baby comes back in. I'm like, oh this is this isn't good, but I am I say the baby listening. Put this in the forty five minute mark of your stand up show. You don't know about lolls yet, but both in comedy and life, help me, help me? Are we're stuffinite? By the in the coffin, there's more of you than I was expected. The coffe is absolutely round. There's only enough room in this coffin for me to slip one DVD into the side for you to take a cross. And on the other side,
it's movie night every night. What film are you taking to show the past of people and the cupcake kids in the afterlife? When it is your ten? Do you know what? I thought it was going to be good more hunting? But Jay, I'm not just gonna say the same because I talked to you about it and I don't feel really happy about it. I think I just want pure, on on, adulterated joy in the afterlife. So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna I'm gonna pop a ladden in there. I'm not gonna pop up, I'm not
going to I'm not going to pop a laden. I'm going to pop the film a ladden And yeah, that's beautiful. I love it. In Sterling. Before we go, i'd like to tell I'd like to plug your Child's upcoming stand up show Tangerine. Plose to this post? Is this for days working on the Zone? The post is this with the Tangerine on ahead. I'm really excited. Then they're going
to win everything. They're gonna win the Peri and then it'll do it, will do it, will do a West End run, but in like a sort of cool, smaller theory. Nothing to show me. I love it. Now you need to tell us what to look out for. I believe Buffering season two is on its way. I don't know when this episode is coming out, but tell me the dates. John the thirtieth January thirtieth, Buffering Series two drops on ITV two and then all episodes will be available on
itv X. That is fucking cool. Is there anything else people should look out for or listening to with you? Just look out for each other. I think look out for friends and family, checking on people. And me and my wife have got a podcast called Partners in Crime true crime podcast available exclusively on Spotify. Lovely if you started it, yeah, we're like, we've got a few few episodes in the can. It's been nice. It's been fun.
That's nice, isn't it. We didn't think we're gonna sort of be a bit stressful, but we've actually really enjoyed doing it. It's fun in it. It's fun. I hadn't actually done many parts. I've still not done that many podcasts. Really, I thought weirdly was scared of them. But I'm doing more and I like it. I've only done about three or four. Well, I'm honed, I'm very hon it well in Sterling and absolutely light. Good luck with season two. I look forward to seeing it, and I look forward
to seeing you next time. I see you with another huge change, perhaps three more children and some cruling along the ceiling. Love to you, good day. I eat Sterling. So that was episode two hundred and thirty two. Over to the Patriot at patreon dot com. Forward slash Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets and video within. Don't miss the first two episodes of Shrinking, available on Apple tv Plus from the twenty seventh of January.
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