Bill Hader • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #202

they want to ruin our phone? Yeah, it's a very good point, Rick, I don't understand it. Every week and by a special guest over, I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Sharon Stone, Jamila Jamil, Barry Jenkins, Mark Frost, James a Castor, and even ped Blambles. But this week it is the incredible actor, writer, producer, comedian, director, creator all rounder, the

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Hackney Empire very soon this weekend July second. To make sure you get your tickets from closef dot co dot uk and Hackempire dot co dot UK. Come and help me murder Berry and have a nice time with Phil Dunster. So we're back, right, I mean I said I'd take a break. I took three weeks off, didn't do any resting. I worked all the time, and we are back now because my neighbor more he needs the work, and because I missed you this time, I will be doing a season.

This is season two. It will be at least eight episodes, maybe more. And also for all the people who send me messages saying how much they missed the show, I missed you so. Bill Hayder is a comedian, an actor, a writer, director, an impressionist, an snla a creator and the star of Barry. I've been a huge fan of his work on S and now and in films and on TV. It was a great honor to sit with him and talk. He was fucking great and I think you're gonna love this one. So that is it for now.

I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and two of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer, a comedia, a sketch, an inside outer, a Simpsonner, a South Parker, a skeleton twin, a creator, a show runner, a hero, a legend, and a human in his own right. Please, welcome to the show. I can't believe it's here. It's the word at Eilie. It's mister Bill Hiday. That was

very sweet. Thank you, glad to be here, lovely to have you. How are you. How's it going? I'm good now. You told me just while we were setting up, but I think the listeners would want to know you are currently mid writing Barry season four. Yeah, we're writing Barry season four. That's what I was just doing before I hopped on here. So if I'm a bit tired, I apologize. I wanted to ask you about Barry because I think

I'd forgotten until I went back and looked. You directed so many of them, so many of the episodes, including the first lot. How was it having this much control? This is the first thing you've had this much control over, I guess, is that true? You know, yeah, yeah, definitely. But I think nothing is as hard as Saturday Night Live. So everything after that was quite easy. And I think that's why so many of us now have these TV shows, because it's a bit like, oh yeah, I know how

to do that, you know. But the one thing I didn't know how to do and I always have wanted to do since I was very young, was direct you know. It was always making short films with friends and my sisters and things like that. So that was one thing I did I wasn't able to do on Saturday Live. And then so directing. When we pitched to HBO Barry and then you know, I said I like to direct the pilot. They kind of went huh okay, and then alec Berg thankfully said I vouched for him. He had

no idea if I could do it. Or not for him. I think it's gonna be great. Yeah, you know, and it seems like yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he looks like look at him. You know, he's wearing a cap and it's meeting directors caps. He must be a director. He's got a black blazer and a black T shirt with what you know, it's fine, you know, Okay, two things. One is you are not the first person i've heard say nothing's hard to then SNL. And I know how

hard it is making and running a TV show. Can you, in a short way maybe explain why SNL is hard to well, just because it's you're figuring the whole show out in a week, and then it's on live television. It's you know, it's live all over the nation, so there's just a lot of pressure, and then it's constantly changing. So it's never If you're like me and you like films that you love to hone things and get them

just right, and SNL that's almost impossible. You had to just kind of go out there with something that you some of it works, some of it didn't. I feel like that's why stand ups and people with a really strong in the States sketch background you know, people from Second City, or you see be or the ground lanes thrive there in a really great way because they can handle that and going like, oh, this isn't working, so what move on to the next thing. Where I would

I would get pretty crushed. Even if I was, you know, customer number two in my straight line didn't land, I would be like, oh, you know, yeah, tell me this on Saturday nights. Now, this is genuine serious question. Do you get butterflies on a Saturday night. I don't get butterflies on a Saturday night, But if I hear certain songs, I will get butterflies. If I hear Train in Vain by the Clash, because that would be the warm up

song right before we would go on that. If I heard Train in Vain and Keenan Thompson would sing and Fred Armison would sing it for the audience to warm up the audience. If I hear that, I do have a bit of a because that means, oh, after that song's dumb, we're live. I'm customer number two. It's like, oh no, just that, and I'm like, fascinating. Can I ask you a kind of practical question that I'm always interested in? And I don't know, and I'm sure everyone

is different. When you're directing, Barry, you are also Barry. So when you are acting in a scene, do you film it then guy watched the monitor? Do you trust someone that you've got it? Do you feel you had it right? I trust somebody. I also, you know, I have you know Alec Burg there, or this guy Duffy Boudreau who I grew up with is one of my oldest friends who's a writer on the show and actually the first a d this guy Gavin Klentop was just brilliant.

You know, they really get what the show is, so I can kind of go over to them. Or sometimes it's the people I'm acting with. All the other actors will be like, what do you think of that? You know, just see the work, you know, or you just had know it. But I'm also because I'm directing, I'm incredibly impatient, So I you know, I just want to keep going.

And I think that you know, you you've been on sets, you know, it's you like to get that momentum going, and the momentum just crushes where they go, oh, let's go look at it, you know, and you watch it. Everybody goes you know, here I'm going to try something. I just feel like everything kind of dies down. I like to keep it. Let's go again, Let's go again, let me try this, Let me try this, and then then maybe I'll sometimes I go you should watch it

because I don't know. What you're doing is pretty weird. Did it feel good? It felt good because it looks really weird. Yeah, if it felt good, then you should watch it. Amazing whatever, question if I may about the battery stuff, is your own season four, which is a lot does it live in your in your head? Like is it exciting to you that you can keep building this thing? Or is every season do you think that's it for me? Do you write it like this is it?

And then you get given another season you're like, funk a whole new world. Yeah, I mean it started out that, you know, you do the first season and you go, well, maybe that's it, and you kind of have ideas, Hey, if we got a season two, this is what I'd like to do, And then we got a season two, and then during season two it was kind of you know, yeah, you're gonna get a season three because this seems to

be working. So while we're doing season two we're kind of I'm going, oh, you know, this could be in season three, that could be in season three. The weird thing about season four is that it was during the pandemic. You know that we were supposed to be shooting season three and then because of the pandemic nothing, and so

we we said, well, can we write season four? And HBO said yeah, sure, they paid us to write season four, And so that helps season three because we got to go back and rewrite a bunch of stuff and and kind of some things up for what a season before would look like, Oh cool, Would you be happy to do it for many more years? Or is that no question? I mean yeah, one day, yes, another day I'm like, no,

I can't do this every you know, you can't. If you call me when I'm driving out to the you know, the desert at three am to get a you know, a shot at dawn or you know or whatever, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. I mean it's insane just watching you know what Jason has to take on. You know,

it's it's an inhumid amount of pressure. ConA O'Brien has this this analogy of the white suit, you know, you put on a white suit and people go, you know that means you know this, you have a suit on it selling it's really white and nice, and you just don't. It's like I don't want to get it dirty. Yeah, you know, and you go, oh, geez, the white suit. You know. I don't know if if if Sadika's goes through that, but I know there was a moment in writing season two of Berry that was a bit of

a white suit feeling. Fuck it, let's just throwing spaghetti on. Let's just see what happened. And I'm friends with the guys, you know, hearing your eye over Atlanta, and he said, oh, we had a very similar feeling room and oh man, it's a hard thing to explain to people, the pressure that comes when the thing works, you know, and because

people go, oh, that must be really hard. Yeah. And the longer the thing guy's done, the more the more you're like that whenever in the suit would come this far, like, yeah, the suit has been this far. Why are you still don't get on that motorcycle and drive through puddles? What the fuck are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, Especially critics will say that, like, please stop. Now. I've done interviews with critics, so they go, please tell me this is it, and you go, oh, well, I mean we got one more.

You know, are you ever able to switch you off? Or is it? Is it full time in your head? It's full time in my head. But it's that's fun, you know, It's it's never am I mean, the pressure of it definitely gets to you, you know, at times. And and I'm directing all the episodes next season, so that's another aspect of it. That's a lot, but it's but it again, it's not as hard as staring alive. And I don't know Jason would say the same thing, but it's not. Yeah, it's still not as hard as

staring alive. It's like, oh, but I you know, we get to edit it, you know, Yeah, I get to go home and sleep. I get like little breaks, you know. He's never got that. Really. Oh Bill, hey Dah, I've forgotten to tell you something, and I should have told you in the beginning. Fuck, And I don't know if you in your email, I don't know. I don't know how much is the first time we've met. This is awkward. I'll just fucking say it and then we'll deal with it. Okay,

you've died. Oh damn it. I knew someone was up such a good moves, so much sky How did you die? Well, I went skydiving, and then the parachute opened and I landed. But then I had a heart attack. I don't think it had anything to do with the skydiving. That was just a lovely activity. I feel like it was just a lovely activity, and then it was just my time.

I think if I had jumped a couple of minutes later, I would have had a heart attack on the plane, right right, So when your friends and family tried to see the skydiving company, I'm gonna be a witness in court. So I actually think, just to be clear, I think, can you check his heart? Yeah? How old would you How old would you like to be when you when this happened? Oh I was eighty three. Okay, do you

worry about death? Bill? Hide? You know what I used to when I was very young, And then you know, you see people close to you go and it focused me more on Oh this is all very finale, you know, So I should try to do what I want to do with every day, you know, well as in and stop worrying about the death. Bit because it stopped me getting almos shit. Yeah. Yeah, well you see people go and then you go like, oh, okay, that's where we're

all headed. So you know, Snakis could probably tell you this that you know, delt closed, you know he is or was, Yeah, yeah, he was the improv king had problems, Yeah, and he had. He would tell the story of the sky dancer and the sky dancer jumped out an airplane and did all these beautiful dances and pulled their parachute and the parachute didn't open. And instead of panicking, this guy dance or just kept dancing and all the way

around and died. And that was the analogy of life, which is like this, we're all headed to the grounds. You might as well dance, you know, and like make something or do something or express yourself, you know. And I thought that was I thought that was nice. But I'm also from the Midwest like Jason, so we're we cry a lot. Did you ever work with doll Place, No, you know what, I think he passed away before I was even He was such a legend by the time

I started doing improv. I know, I remember going into Bob Odenkirk's office and there's a picture of him and Dell Close and Chris Farley, and I was like, oh my gosh, there's Doll Close. Shit. But yeah, he's the kind of father of improv. And you know, it came up with Mike Nichols and Elaine May and all those people.

If you don't mind, because I don't know how much you maybe you've talked about this, Las, but I was read enough on you and you you were obsessed with as far as I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, you wanted to make film when you were you were being an assistant and production assistant, and you were on the job for stuff at very low level, just trying to learn stuff. And then at some point you started doing improv. But it didn't seem like there was any

comedy stuff before this. Can I ask you what made you go to the improv? Well? Was you know, like a lot of things. It was two things. One the girl I've been dating for seven years and I broke up. Say the more I got it, you know what I mean. So we had broken up and she had moved out of Los Angeles, you know, and I you know when you go through a massive breakup, and it was my first massive breakup, the first reel like we were in love, we broke up and so and so I gotta do

something different. And then my friend Eric philip Kowski and I were both pas on this reality TV show. He said, oh, do you want to come to Second City Theater and see a show that you know? My show? And then there's another show after it. And I went and saw a show. It was called Ha Ha Fresh and inn that show was a guy named Derek Waters who ended up doing Drunk History, and a guy named Simon Hildeberg who was on The Big Bang Theory and some other things.

Yeah he's in a net. Yeah, he's great internet. Yeah. And they were in that show, and I was embarrassed because they were my age, you know, and they were performing and I went, well, well, I could you know, we can do that, you know, And so I was been embarrassed, and so I kind of went over to Eric and said, how do I get How do I get in on this? And he's like, you gotta take classes. So that was a winter of two thousand and three.

So I went and I took classes starting to March, and that was purely just a way that to start being creative because I was trying to make short films, but you needed money and it wasn't like now or you can make stuff on your phone and stuff. It was like too expensive, and so I said, well, at least every Saturday I do something creative. So that was my creative outlet. I love that. I love it. Tell me this, what do you think happens when you die? Do you think there's enough to life? No? I think

it's just a white light switch goes off. It's just complete darkness. You sky dance, you land, you have a heart attack, blackout, blackout hard, blackout, hard, blackout. Well, I got news for you, buddy boy. Heaven. You're wrong, you got it. You're not right. There's a heaven and it's brilliant and it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Movies. It's filled with movies. It's like a

Blockbuster video. There's iOS and iOS of movies. There are people made of celluloid, there's screening groups, there's beds filled with cans of film. Everyone it's really happy to see you and they want to talk to you about your life, but through the medium of film, and the first thing they ask you is what Bill Hayda is the first film you remember saying in the theater was Empire Strikes Back. Specifically the senior I remember was of Hans Solo falling

in carbonite. The closeup of it comes into frame and you see him in carbonite, and I started crying and my dad took me out of the theater and I remember that. And then on television was a late night movie called The Children. There was a horror film, and I remember it had an image of a bunch of kids in a school bus and the school bus goes into a giant cloud like a like a big like a cloud of smoke on a street and it turns

them all into zombies. But that image of the school bus going into the smoke really freaked me out again and told my parents, and I remember it was very young.

And then when YouTube happened. I remember being at home and I was thinking about that just I know, and I went, I wonder what that was, and so I typed in school bus, cloud of smoke, and then this trailer for this movie came up, and there it was this image that I was maybe I had just dreamed that, you know, and there it was that image The Children. I go, this is it? This is one hundred percent what I saw, you know it. Did it scare you? No? Oh,

we like, oh this looks silly. Oh yeah, that looks kind of I was like, oh wow, yeah, it's a bunch of smoke bombs going off from the middle of the street and like this the Yeah, but it's very very cheap horror film called The Children that I think I wasn't supposed to be seen. I think it was just it was on television. I wandered into a room when you saw m bus strikes back? Was that? Was that just you and your dad? Don't you with my My members are just me and my dad? Yeah, that's sweet.

And he took you out because he were crying right before the end. Yeah, I was quite young, and I was very young, yeah, like three or four or something, and then he I just started freaking out and you know, and that was the first one I can remember. Yeah. He said he snuck me into other movies before that when I was a baby because they couldn't find a babysitter, so they would have me, you know, and they would be bouncing me while they were watching you know whatever.

Cramer versus Cramer or whatever. Late seventies movie they were watching. What is this film that made you cry the most? You're from the Midwest, do you cry? What's the film that made you cry? It's actually a movie from Kess, the kim Loach movie Kess, Oh, Kess. The fucking Yeah. I mean, we haven't talked about that film for a while on this podcast. Yeahs is the maddest is the

worst children's films? Such a horror film. The scene in Cash when he's in front of the class and the teachers like tell them about how you train kestrels and and I just find that so moving, how they at first or they make fun. It just feels so real, and that kid is so good and it's just so well. It's just I just find that scene of acceptance. There's nothing sentimental or syrupy about it. It just feels very real,

you know, And it's just beautiful, beautiful scene. Doesn't it make you think the difference between British films and American films is children's films in America and on a positive night of British films and with the bird stuffed in a bit, is that British or is that just that region? Your sure? Birds? The fucking bid. Horrific dreams are what you wake up from the end. The message of that film should be don't fucking bother. Yeah it's a horrible film. Yeah,

don't train your birds around your older brother. You'll get well jealous what you're in The inside Out. Correct. We did a best Films of the Decade edition of this podcast, and I said The Inside Out was the greatest film of the of the Okay, Oh, I'm told Pete and those guys, that's nice. Yeah, I think it truly is fucking profound it maybe, I mean, we could talk about it. We'll get but you will get back to your choices. But shout out to Inside Out. I think, thank you.

Oh yeah, I'll tell Pete those guys would really appreciate at the really sweet or something. What is the film that scared you the most? You like being scared? Oh? Yeah, I love I loved horror films. I still love horror films.

There's the horror films like I remember watching on late night television when I was twelve or thirteen, the same Rami's Evil Dead and there's a scene in that film where this woman is looking out a window and she's guessing the cards that her friends are playing and they don't understand how she's doing it, and then she turns around her eyes or white. That scared the hell out of me. And then the irony is is that actress Ellen Sandways. Her daughter is an actress named Jesse Hodges,

and she's in Barry. She plays Sally's agent. And so when I met her and we were talking, she thought my mom was in a little horror movie called Evil Dead, And I wait, who is your mom and Evil Dead? And she was like, you know, and that was her and that was that and I go, oh, my gosh, that was a profound experience in my childhood, you know, for aadolescence was seeing that film. And that film also was a film I think, I think for a lot of filmmakers was the one that kind of made you.

It was like listening to punk rock music or something where you went, oh, I see how I can I see how they're doing it. It's really effective, but I think I can do this. You know, picked up your camera and you would chase your my sisters around or you would try to do all these kind of evil

dead things. So yeah, I would say that. And then another scene that scared me was in the film Marathon Man with the Dustin Hoffman, there's a scene where he is in a bathtub and I don't know if you remember this scene or he's in a bathtub and he's he has a washcloth on his face and he's just kind of decompressing from all the stressful stuff that's happening

to him. It's very quiet, and then very very subtly you hear people whispering, and it's done so well that you think still when I'm watching it, if I'm watching it with like other people, I kind of go, oh, someone's whispering the room, and kind of look over your shoulder. And then Dustin Hoffman goes and sits up, and you go, oh,

my gosh, that's in his apartment. And then he's in the bathtub and the door is just cracked open a bit and he runs over and he when he slams the door shut, suddenly people are heading on the other side and you realize, oh, there's two men in his apartment. Oh my gosh. Just terrifying and good, very well. I love that moment. Can I ask you an acting question. I think the two hardest things to do as an actor. One is laughing and the other is jumping scared, being startled.

You've got an amazing laughing scene in a film that I really really like, Skeleton Twins really good and it seems completely genuine, And I wonder if it is a kind of captured moment where you and pissing himself laughing, or whether that was Yeah, that's Kristen and I just being good, you know, friends and thinking each other laugh and and she's improvising stuff and we're improvising together, but that's her just being She was being just saying really

funny things. I think she was saying stuff about someone's name or we were just that's just real, very real, yes, yes, okay. And then doing it chapter two where you are having to be scared, is that hard as in the reality of filming? That not really, you know, because Andy Michette, who directed that movie, was very good at kind of getting you in a headspace and you know, being like all right, and he'd be on this big microphone okay, you guys are coming screaming. Okay. It was really scariness.

Yeah yeah, and then you walk in and then the area, Oh my god, that's really it. That sounked it for me, really good. Shout out the access What is the film that you love? It is not critically acclaimed, most people don't even like it, but you think it's amazing and you don't care what they say. Well, there's movies that I've walked out of, like after the movies ended and I go, man, that was great, and everyone else is like, what that was terrible? You know that feeling when you're

the outlier. Yeah, I met that and Eyeswhite Shot was that for me. I walked out and went, that was great, and everybody went that was the most pretentious piece of shit. Really, I oh, I thought it met it really. I thought it was kind of funny, like interesting things about relationships. And and then the other one was that Jennifer Lawrence movie Mother, and we're walking out of that going that was really terrible. That was terrifying. I thought that was great.

Eight and yeah, oh my god. The people I was with were so they tare a part of baby, and I go, but it's a dream. It's like a it's her nightmare of everything she wants. I don't know. I thought that was kind of interesting. I that was one when I said I liked it, my friend's girlfriend said, what's wrong? With you I had. I had the same thing. I really liked that film a little, but I don't know many people they day, so that's all right, it's

fucking great. I think it's brilliant, and people very very It was one of those things where I just said, as I've gotten older, I used to my twenties argument people about movies, and now I'm just like, I just don't have the energy. So I just went okay, okay, okay. I think I just said okay about fifty times as we walked to my car. I was going, okay, okay, okay, you're right, You're right, Okay. It's such a weird thing.

I had to argue with a friend the other day about a film that I just think it's amazing, and she hated it. And then she was like relentlessly kind of breaking down why it was time, what type of And I suddenly was so like, what do you want to the end of this? Do you want the thing that has made me happy to not make me happy any more? Yeah? And I've experienced that with films that I like, where people get really riled up about it and then and then sometimes I'll have like I love

the film Clockwork Orange. It was a movie that it's very formidable for me. I understand that movie is not easy to watch, but I can have a conversation of why that movie struck me so much and my views of like, you know, violence and you know, and the human condition and all these things whatever. And I did

have a conversation. That was the only really time where it was the opposite we were describing, because usually it's what you're describing where I go, I know what you want to But I had a friends say, but what bothers me about that film was that it became pop culture and that people would dress up like drugs. And I remember seeing the Blur video and they're dressed up like drugs and all these others thing Bart Simpson was dressed up like a drug and they're rapists. You know,

they're monsters, not whe you know. That's a very good point. You're right, that is a very good point. I mean that I could understand if you go and watch that film and you go, I hate that when you go into you know, people have posters of Alex on their wall and shit, and it's like that shouldn't be, you know, And I said, I can understand why you wouldn't like that film based on that. But I think that bit is out. That's the unfortunate byproduct of the thing, you know.

But I said, I hear you. I think that movie is very important, but that is a very true thing that is unfortunately. Yeah. Interesting. On the other hand, what is a film that you used to love that you've watched recently and you've got but whatever races? Did that play? Pay? There is a film that was on HBO when I was growing up and I watched all the time called The Race Trout The Race. It was like an updated fifties like hot Rod movie, but it was set in

the eighties. Chryl Flynn was in it. Nick Cassavettis was in it. He was the bad guy, and Charlie Sheen is a good kid who races these guys and then he's he's killed and then he comes back as this kind of ghost, you know, this almost this alien guy, not an actual alien, but it's a guy all in leather with like the helmet on, kind of looks like daft punk, but drives this really cool car, and the car somehow just reeks revenge against all these bad kids. And it was on HBO all the time, and I

was I just thought it was great. And then um, I was in Seattle and I went into a video store and I found a DVD of it and and I went nuts. And it was really expensive and I bought it and I went, oh my god, this and oh my god, I went crazy, and and it was very expensive DVD. And I got home and watched it in a minute, ten minutes. And this isn't good. That's so sad. And I called my sister because we used to watch all the time. I go I found a copy of The Wraith and she went, oh my gosh.

You know it might be on Amazon Prime now for all I know, but she, oh my gosh, it was. And it's terrible. What you know, it just didn't hold up? Right? What is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film is any good, but the experience you had around seeing the film will always make it meaningful to you. Bill Hide, Please, So do they have SATs. They don't have it, but but they're they're like exams when you're sixteen, Yeah, this would be when we were.

When you're senior of high school, So when you're seventeen, eighteen years old. You have to take yeah, that test to get into college. Yea. So the SAT is a thing that you study hard on. You know, kids, real rich kids would get you know, families would get them tutors for SA and your whole life for four years is you got to take this SAT. And how you do on this depends on what school you go to.

And I went in to take my SAT and I was so overwhelmed and kind of defeated because I just didn't feel prepared that I put my name on it and I turned it in. I didn't didn't do anything. So it was complete suicide. Wow. And you know an SAT test you have to go to another facility. You don't take it at I didn't take it at my school. It's like, you go to this place, your parents have to pay all this money. It's a real thing. And then I just put my name on it and I

turned it in. I got my car and I drove the movie theater and I went and saw Mars Attacks. And while I was watching Mars Attacks, I was just watching this film where these aliens are destroying earth, going, oh, my life is over. I've completely blown up my life. And I was alone at the Promenade Theater in Tulsa, Oklahoma, watching Mars attacks and just thinking I'm gonna have to go home. I'm gonna have to tell my parents. I'm gonna have to do this. But for right now, I'm

in Tim Burton's Perfect Little Flying Saucer World. Yes, that was that movie forever. If I see a poster for it, or if I come across it on television, I go, oh, my gosh. I just I don't think I've really had seen that film because I just wasn't there the whole time. It was it was like I had committed a murder. Yeah, well, you'd you'd meted your education school feature. Yeah, I murdered my educational Yeah, man, my future. So did you did you go home and say what you did? Or did

you wait to you go zero? I said, I don't think I did very well, So I didn't really cop to it. I said, I don't think I did well. How would you define bad? I mean, I think I've got to get quite like. I mean, if you don't answer, it doesn't mean you really don't know it. Yeah, you have to be in it to get you know bad? Yeah I didn't really true, but I remember like a month later, my mother is saying, you didn't get into

state school, which is I mean a given. So it was kind of like, oh man, you really blew it, you know. So, and where where I grew up, you would have to go to a junior college, which is is kind of like high school but you can smoke, which is. And so I went out of state to a junior college with Jimmy Kimmel thinks is the funniest thing on the planet. He went, Wait, you went out of state to a junior college, which really makes zero

point zero sense. It makes no sense. And I went out of state and then ended up just moving to Los Angeles, you know, but you know it doesn't matter. A lot of people went to junior college did great. I could be talking out of school you, but I think Sadekas might have gone to a junior college in Kansas. I feel like when he and I, because he and I shared an office together at SNL, and I feel like we both were like because you around at a live you around all these like Harvard people, and I

feel really inadequate. And I remember getting Charlie Grandy and I went you went to Harvard. I was such a Hillbilly. I was like, are you serious? Even in Harvard in Massachusetts? You went to Harvard and uh, but I feel like Sadekas was like, no, no, I went to a junior college. Oh really, So I don't feel as did you write anything on your SAT? Did you did you actually do your S? Did you have to do your satcause please

tell me you didn't. That's incredible, But both of you and now having to do the most intense, hard working amount of work possible like that. Yeah, that's interesting. It's what it said around. Yeah, do you know what was going on in your head when you did that? We just like I can't cope with this or I just can't cope with it. You know. I've always had really bad anxiety, and I think I just panicked and just went I can't handle this. There's so much pressure of

being put on you right now. Yeah, and I just can't do it and did that, and then, you know, just dealt with the consequences. But it was definitely, up to that time in my life, the most insane thing I'd ever done. Yeah, all my friends were just going, what is wrong? Why did you do? Then? It's fast today? Bill? Why did what? What happened. Man, You're like, I just really wanted to see Buzz Attacks and it was on

it one. I really wanted to see Mars Attacks. Man, what is the film most relate to When I was a kid? In the movie that I went, I related to the main character the most. Honestly, it was a Christmas story. Remember that kid? I remember that kid, just thinking like, oh, I relate to that, you know, like wanting a thing and not knowing how to get it and having a bully and you know the scene where he fights that kid and then he cries. You know.

I think it's very very moving because I'm like, oh, I remember having a moment like that kid hit my sister with a tether ball and I tackled him and I didn't know how to hit anybody, but I was just kind of hit, you know, slapping the top of his head. But it was you start crying because your emotions are all up and all that. So I just think that that movie. I think it was very moving.

I got to watch it with my children and it was kind of special because I was like, oh, man, I used to watch this all the time when I was a kid because I related to Ralphie did it work for your kids? Yeah, yeah, they liked they got really involved. I have three daughters, but they were really involved with it. But they also were, you know, raised now, so they went, he wants a gun. Why does it want a gun? You know? And he go, yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, no,

it's true. You know. It's like when I watched The Goonies with them and they were like, this is fun, but like one of the girls get to do something, and I go, but the girl got to play piano. She played piano and she saved the day. And they were like, that's bullshit. Okay, you're not wrong. It was like everything back then was made and geared towards me. Is the one paper were interested in. What is the

sexiest film You've ever seen? Bill? That would have to be YouTube Mama tembian I would say, is the sexiest film I've ever seen? I think all three of them are so incredibly sexy in that movie. Yeah, Mary Belle Duo, if I ever saw her, I would I wouldn't be able to like, I would just like turn around and walk away, which is I'm like, you're the like. She is so insanely gorgeous and just a phenomenal actress. I mean, what's sexy about it isn't just like it, but the

acting in it. You know, her performance in that is just unbelievable. And both of them, Gail and oh my god, diego, oh my god, they're so good in that film, and they're all really hot. It is. It is just such a fantastic film. But also and it's funny because I become friendly with Alfonso Corone. When I talk to him about that one, it's like, weird, you can't really tell him like that is the sexiest I've ever seen. It's a site. I think it's one of my favorite endings

to a film. That film. Yeah, I think the log is really Yeah, it's really I think that movie is just also what it says kind of like just guys at that age, and because I was the age of those guys when they move, I mean they're in their early twenties and then as whold I was when that film came out, some around their age and uh, just masculinity and they're trying to be you know, these just these morons and if she comes in and they just again it wasn't message, it wasn't too on the nose.

It was just a feeling and a vibe of the whole thing that was just so emotional and incredibly sexy. I mean the end of that film when she's dancing into the camera's just that is just so unbelievably sexy, but also like works for the character and why they're all getting drunk together and all this tension, the tension in that movie. There's so much sexual tension in that movie, but also what's happening with the characters, like really tragic. Weren't they given I believe that that film was made

like that. They were given basically given money to make a sex film, Like it was a low budget thing. There were like three sex films being made by by company, so it was sort of like, here's some money, go make a sex film. And then it turned in this incredibly profound beautiful which is also a sex film, but it's also so much more than that. Yeah, it really is. I think it's it's really something. Yeah, I think he's one of the great filmmakers for sure. Yeah, there's a

subcategory to this question. Bill had a troubling bone, is worrying, why don't the film you found arousing that you weren't sure he should I don't know. Yeah, I couldn't figure that one out if I have one, but there, I don't know. I'm not trying to be you know, monesty or anything, but I can't think of one. But I mean I do think I was of the era of the Princess lay a slave outfit, which again, watching that

with my kids makes zero sense. That's why my daughters are out there, like, why is she in that outfit? And I'm like, again, if this movie is geared towards me and meal like boys, this thing is geared towards boys, because it made it makes no sense that she's suddenly in that outfit. You know, really, well, hasn't he made the address like that? I mean, I'm not saying it's right, but but they said then why I guess My thing is like, if she's in an outfit, why aren't Luke

and Han in different outfits? Because they're all being taken prisoner because listen, he's prizing, I mean, he's planning no into boys. He's put one of them on ice. Yeah, the other one's one and the other one he doesn't want to see the other one to sneak in. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's pissed. But yeah, I guess that would be the closest one that you know. That's fair. That's fair, Bill Hide.

What is objectively the greatest film of all time might not be your favorite, but it's the greatest if you're going by storytelling, acting, cinematography, editing, you know, I am everything. The Godfather, the First Godfather would probably be pound for pound. That's like. When I watched that film, I go, well, everything is working in this thing into like a perfect level. Is it my favorite movie? No, which also says something like you're saying, you know, but I would probably say

The Godfather. When I watched that, I just go, yeah, this is like if I had to teach a class, you would just show The Godfather and go there it is. There's all the other stuff. I mean, another one I think I would just say. Another one that's close for me is The Third Man is another one. When I watched that one, I go, well, this one just this just works, This just works on every level. This thing just works. You know. Yeah, tell me this, what is the film you could or have watched the most iver

and ivery get? I mean, it runs a gambit of a loving death. It is Woody Allen movie. I really like the last detail with Jack Nicholson. Yeah, Taxi Driver is one of my favorite films. KNIGHTSI Giberia, the Flinging Movie is one of my favorite films. I watched that a lot, a movie called a Kiu but Chris Sawa, I watched that a lot. Rosemary's Baby Airplane, you know, like you know, these are the movies that if they're on I just sit and watch. I just I have

to watch the whole thing. You know that Rosemary Baby and Taxi Driver both quite funny. I think, yeah, that quite It took me as I go out. I found them funny as in I'm not saying they're funny all the way through it, but they're are Like Rosebary Baby is like a sort of social I think it's like a film about manners. It's like the whole Yeah, that movie just wouldn't happen if she wasn't at as she said,

get out of my house. Yeah, it always has to say no, but yeah, yes after you sure, okay, yeah, And I was trying to what's so great about that as the role of that woman is that she's so nice and trying to make everyone happy, and then the fear of childbirth and she's doing everything right, you know, and she just gets taken advantage of. I just thought

it was. And there's the moment in tax Club, but it always thinks funny where he meets the guy in the hotel room to buy guns and the guy then offers him drugs and he's so offended, like, yeah, stuff, Yeah do you think I am Yes, Stephen France, Yeah, that guy, Stephen Friendly goes nictrous. Ok side, so I like a Cadillac Cadillac with the thing. Yeah, I would say even the scene that is an awful, awful scene.

And that's what Scorsesey's so good at. He was taking really terrible scenes, like when he's going to Harvey Kite tell about Jody Foster and Harvey Kite tells like the lowest scumbag on the planet, And even that scene has like Scorsese's like, yeah, but that guy's not not funny, you know, he's a immoral piece of shit. But he has to be charming on some dumb level or he couldn't get these women. So even that scene, he's like, I had a horse, I got hit by a car.

I'm like, I have no idea what he's talking about you know, he's just so strange in that scene that you're like and and watching him. And I love watching that scene because I remember liking mean streets and how the roles were reversed where it was Harvey Kitell was a straight guy and DeNiro was the crazy guy, and it's just so cool seeing that and then watching Taxi Driver when I was, you know, thirteen or fourteen and

kind of really obsessed with those films. You know, we don't like to be negative, but hey do I don't know if you j don't, but we'll do it quickly. What's the worst film you've ever seen? I will say the first film that I was very disappointed in as a kid was teen Wolf two. That was the film because I loved teen Wolf one so much that I went in the theater to see teen Wolf two and it was an abomination. I forget what's the daily teen Wolf takes a different sport, right, He's boxing. He's a

boxing wolf. He's a boxer. And it's Jason Bateman, who I'm friendly with, who's one of the loveliest human beings on the planet, and he's just kind of in this situation where he's got to be. Basically, they couldn't get Michael J. Fox, so they got Jason Bateman to do the Michael J. Fox pit. And then there's some guy from the first movie in the second movie. But yeah, he's a boxer and it's the exact same story, but at college and he's a boxer. Is he meant to

be the same team? Is he meant to his cousin? I know, no, it's I think is what it was. But when you're watching it, but I think the dad, you know, I only saw it that one time and I was nine or ten, you know, and just went, this is the same movie. So it was just like that was awful, you know, as the first time as a kid. I felt disappointed in the film and I

was so excited and I work on this film. Paul was Simon Pegg and Nick Frost and Jason Bateman was in that film and as a rap gift, they gave him a Team Wolf two poster signed by all of us. And I might have written, this was the first film to disappoint me. And Jason is one of the greatest guys and really phenomenal actor and director and just a great guy. But I felt bad. Yeah, that was my introduction to Jay Funny. What is you're in comedy? You're

a comedian. What's the film that made you laugh the most? I mean, definitely Love and Death was the one that I love that made me laugh really hard. Those Zucker Brothers movies like Airplane and Naked Guns still make me laugh. I mean, clearly, I'm a big Cohen Brothers fan. If you watch Barry, I mean those of Cohen Brothers type stuff, and that A Serious Man especially is the one lately

that really makes me laugh. That movies very funny. And I got to work with Fred Mellomet who's in that movie, and so yeah, I would those are something that really those ones really get me, Bill Hide, what's an absolute pleasure you have been? However, when you sky dove at eighty three and you were sky dancing and I like, dell close. Your parachute did open, and it opened, and your sky dance very slowly down. Everyone was like, wow, you know, he's pretty nimble for an eighty three year old.

Look at him go and you everyone was standing around, well done, well done, Bill Hayder. And you were like hey guys as you floated down, Hey guys, and you landed you said hey, and you had a heart attack and you died. And I'm walking past because I've heard you were doing this skydance show, and I'm bringing the coffee with me, you know what I'm like. And I see loads of people gathered around and they're shouting at the sky, at the skydiving company. People again, you killed Billy.

And I go get out of the way, guys, get away, and I go listen. They didn't. They didn't kill Bill Hayda. You had a heart attack. It just happened to happen exactly the moment he landed and the sky DOLOPI go, exactly, We're really safe. We're good. I don't worry, guys, it's not gonna be a law suit. Off you go. Everyone clears and there you are, smashed dead in the ground. And unfortunately, in all the commotion, people were stomping on you, trying to get killed the skin of people. Your body's

a mess. So I'm scraping you off the roads, bits of concrete. I'm having to chop up bits of you just to get you into some stuff. You in the coffin. I stuff you in, But there's more of you than I was expecting. There's bits of the parachute. We can't get it all off anyway. The coffin is now rammed. It is full. There is barely any room in it. There is just enough room to slide one DVD for you to take across to the other side. On the

other side, it's movie night every night. What film are you taking to show the people of heaven when it is your movie night? Bill Hayder Nick a gun and they will love you for it. You will be very well film. Bill Hayden, what joy? What tree? I'm so grateful you did this. Oh was fun, man, Oh, this is a lot of fun. Is there anything you would like to tell people to watch, look out for, or listen to in the coming times. Oh? I like this movie called You Were Not My Mother. I enjoyed that

as a horror film from Ireland. I thought was pretty good. This is very generous of you. But I'm talking about your right stuff. Oh oh oh oh, oh, well, Barry, that's the only thing I work on. Yeah, watch Barry if you can. My whole life right now is doing that show. But uh, but yeah, you should see You Were Not My Mother is a great film. Yeah, I thought, Kay Morgan the director's name. Do a great job. So you were know my mother and then three seasons of Barry.

It's what you would recommend ye, Bill Hide, thank you for your time and for your excellent work. Thank you, Good day to you. I hope you have a wonderful debt. Good night a good debt. That was Episode two hundred and two. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forwards slash break Goalstein for the extra chat, secrets and free episode plus videos of many of the other guests.

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week for another absolutely stonecold Killer episode. I hope you are all well. Nice to talk to you again. So that is it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week and please be excellent to each others. Was utraust? Was Untrustact? Was uttrusts facts? Was auctrust