Look out here, surely films to be buried with. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, a director, a milliner, and I love films. As Haruki Murakami once said, death exists not as the opposite of it, but as a part of life, like how Riggs is kind of the opposite of Murtile, but he's also part of his life. And they're all in a way like family. Do you know what I mean. That's a great point, Haruki.
I do love those films. Every week I invite a special guest. Either I tell them they've died, then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil and even Dead Brambles. But this week it's the incredible artist, sketcho and comedian Annie McGrath. Head over to the Patron at patron dot com forward slash Brett gold Steam, where you get about extra twenty
minutes of chat with Annie. We talk in depth about beginnings and endings. You get a secret from her, You get the whole episode uncut and as a video and all sorts of other stuff. Check it out over at patreon dot com, forward slash Breck Goldsteam tv wise. Ted Lasso season two is halfway through, so get caught up in all the episodes on Apple tv Plus and also check out Soulmates on Amazon Prime. But will make you happy,
the other will make you think so. Annie McGrath is a brilliant comedian and artist and sketch and writer and actor. And I've wanted to get her on here for years. I love spending time with Annie. She's amazing. I think you will love this one. We recorded it on Zoom last week. She was a fucking treat as always. So that is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and sixty three of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be
Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by a writer, a actor, a twin a seven year old comedian, a stand up, a gallerist, a painter, a podcaster, an artist and an inspiration to the world, and a hero and a footballer and a net bailler please and a round her please, and a girlfriend. Please welcome to the show. They're wonderful, They're brilliantly amazing. Is Annie mcgrant. Hello, I'm flushing. I'm blushing. I'm blushing. Thanks Fret.
It's a pleasure to be here. Hi, Annie, it's lovely to have you. Thanks for doing the show at last. Now, Annie, In case you don't know Annie, you bloody should. But if you don't know her, aside from all her wonderful comedy stuff that she does, she's also she does a podcast. It's also amNY podcast in a way, but in which it's an art podcast. And I'll tell you Annie, you and Steve Martin are the only comedians I know who are also banging to art. And you've taught me a
lot about dast Tell them. Tell the people who don't know about your podcast, because I love it. Well, that's the good thing about having an art podcast, because people then don't expect it to be funny. So you said it's sort of a comedy podcast, But that's quite good. No, no, because it's supposed to be an art podcast. But then if there's any funny bits, people are like, ah, that's unexpected. Yeah, I guess art can be funny. Art can be funny in a way. Yeah. So the premises comedians doing art,
so we paint something that the guests chooses. So you chose Buddy the Muppet, Buddy the Star of Loan, and we paint and have a chat and it's quite sort of relaxing to do and to listen to. I think it was really wonderful and actually you're quite clever because it's a bit like therapy because you get distracted by the painting and you end up revealing your true self. Yeah. I think people are less guarded because you're distracted trying to draw or paint, so there is less of a
wall put up, less of a front. So people do often, you know, regret what they tell me, which is good content. It's the dream for a podcast, isn't it exactly? You're also a genuine artist, Yeah, I guess so. I mean that's sort of. I did go to art college for a year, but I think as a result of lockdown when all the gigs stops, I sort of did more painting and set up a website managed to sell some work. So I guess I am technically an artist, even though
that feels like quite a grand title to give myself. Listen, if you're if you're a person getting paid to do art, I don't think that's grand. I think that's that's fucking amazing. It's rare in it. I don't know any it's you, it's you to see. Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess it's nice. Yeah. Why did you decide to do comedy after art school? Well? I decided to do English and drama at Leeds, and then there I got into doing comedy.
I joined the sketch group, the leads tea line. You had a heck of a group, right, Who was your chat Barry my then double act partner love him, Max Dickens, Chris Quail, Henry Perrimant and Joe Barnes, who are now good double act They got nominated in Edinburgh a couple of years ago. Just a lot of posh men basically, and met a lot of posh woman to add some diversity to the really good now films. Films. Yeah you into him? I like them? Yeah, not all of them,
but some of them. Right, Okay, quite, okay, Okay, we got we got a keep whatever we Okay. I think you'll see that I'm not that thinky when you see my list of films. Let's see how this goes all? Right? Then? Oh shit, though, Oh I've not the right I've made a right mess of this. I've forgotten to tell you something. And that's I mean, this is good acting, because I knew this was going to happen, and then I forgot and I actually thought maybe you'd left something downstairs. But
now I know what you're gonna say. I've left something downstairs, and let me go and get it. That's good. That's my dog downs days kind of thing. Annie, I'm holding your death certificate. You've died. Oh no, well it was inevitable lest space. Yes, that's the way of looking at it. How did you well, Brett. I think I'm quite a cautious person. I get quite anxious about like I don't I don't like things that are scary, so I don't even like, I don't hate flying, don't like really being
on the tube. Get quite anxious, and I'm always the bag lady at theme parks. So I think that maybe I would die by like trying to be too cautious. So everyone else is on every All my friends are on the roller coaster, the scariest roller coaster, and I'm by myself holding all the bags and then I get shot in the head. So when you say bag lady, you don't mean lady who lives in the theme park. Sorry,
I mean lady who holds bags. You know, when you or you're without wanting to generalize, men tend to carry fewer bags, if none, than women. Yeah, but you know often there's people who have bags and I'll be holding on. I don't I don't live in the theme park. Yeah, so you hold the bags. So in a way, I mean to cut the questions. What's heartbreaking about this is it's clear from the setup you don't want to go to this theme park. But I guess you just want
the human company invited. You're not you don't want to engage in any of it, but you just want to be with people and to be loved. You'll hold all their handbags, yeah, christ and then you get shot in the head. That sounds depressive. It's it's made me sad. It's yes, it is depress Yes, maybe I get shot in the boobs. Does that make it less depressive? Um? Maybe my right boob and then I don't die automatically.
It gives it something. It gives it something shot in the right boob and then I'm fine, the hearts on the left, yeah, and then I'm like, oh, dodged a bullet, and then bat in the left one. Do you know who pulled the trigger? Just a local sniper, I think, all right, it is this part Chessington Alton Towers. I don't know one of those, so it's the Chessington's nigher. Yeah, yeah, oh good, do you know him? Yeah? Do you know why he was targeting you? And you're in particularly you're
right and left boob. I think he wanted back. He wanted someone's static so that he could get a better shot, because obviously people that are like on a log flume are moving, so it's a harder target. And I was the only person who was holding all the bags, so one boob than the other, so none of the bags protect you in the in the in the boobs, I guess you were holding them by yourself. I just imagine holding them up here on their like tope bags, so
they're all on my shoulders, five tope bags shoulder. If you shot you in the left left back, cheat, right back, cheat, you might have might have been okay, yeah, yeah, my heart's not in my butt, so I think I might have survived. It's a shame he was he was a boob guy. Yeah, you can't tell. You can't tell a bood guy or a bum guy until they've killed you. That's the problem with men. I'll be honest, Anny. This is one of the darkest and most problematic and upsetting
deaths we've had. And this is quite far into the run of podcast of congratulations. Do you you're scared of everything? Do you worry about death? He's scared of death? Yeah, I don't. I don't like the idea of die. Quite scared of it. I don't want anyone I know to die. It's sad, isn't it. It is sad. I don't know. I don't understand why there's people that go on your podcast and are like, I don't mind it. What do you mean the constant nothing? Is that what you think
it is? Well, I hope it isn't. But logically I don't think there is anything afterwards, but I would like to believe that there is. And I understand why people when they're dying sort of go to religion and spirituality as like a final ditch attempt to continue listen. Maybe this is mad, mad thinking on my part. But when you say, well that it's logical, it seems logical that there's nothing, I would say, what logic is leading you to that? How do you explain your thoughts and feelings
and vibes and stuff like that? You're I mean, like, what's your logic that I guess by logic, I mean like science and right, you know, I'm no scientist, but I think those guys know what they're doing. How do you explain vibes? Yeah, I don't know how it's that vibes with a zes. No, I'm not talking about a type of music. I'm not talking about one of your favorite bands. Vibes. I don't know how you explain vibes. No,
but I think it's the key to death. So do you think the afterlife is pure vibes, pure good vibes. That's nice? Yeah, okay, yes, because if there is constant nothing, then that is hard to get your head around for sure. Yeah. Are you quite accepting of it death? Well, I'm not the idea of other people dying, for sure. I'm really really not into that. And that's my probably my biggest fear of other people dying. And I just tape that
no one ever days and then it's fine. I bet there's some people that you're like, I wouldn't mind if they died. M if I if I had to pick and choose, then yes, I certainly could name them bloody Well, then you know the geezer who's don't The problem is I watch the news that I can't remember anyone's name, so I can't name the right people, right, but there's someone on the news that some of the news and I I'm not talking about the presenters. The thing of
am I comfortable with me dying? I did think the other day, Well, actually, I've had a pretty fucking good life. If I died now, it'd be a shame, but I'd be like, yeah, the only thing I didn't do is jump out of plane. That was all that I had left. Do you know what I mean? Anyway, listen, don't worry than there is enough to lie. Oh great, and it's great and it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your
favorite thing? Chocolate? Yeah, it's made out of chocolate. It's like it's like really Wonka's chocolate factory, but instead of ground it's chocolate and less creepy Wonka. Maybe yeah, and the wonker character is is me? Is that less creefy? Hard to say. You'll find out when you're there. I guess nice. Hello, Welcome to the chocolate patch, Welcome to the chocolate factory. Heaven, chocolate everywhere. And by the way, don't worry. It's not like, oh, I'm sitting on a
chocolate chair and it's like sticky. Yeah. Whatever you want it to be is the right thing. Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's soft, sometimes it's liquid. You want to eat the wolves, you can eat the wolves. But the roof's not going to collapse on your head. Great, and you don't feel sick after, never feel sick, thank you. Never sounds perfect. Yeah, and in the chocolate, chocolate, chocolate Heaven.
Everyone's obsessed with films though, which is Yeah, it's not an entirely weird connection, but it's surprises some people when they get here. The films made of chocolate. Yeah, okay, there's that film Chocola Yeah, I haven't seen it, but Heaven is actually made from chocolate. Now here's the thing. What the people here they want to know about your life, Anna Belle, but they won't know about it through the medium of film. Okay. The first thing they asked is
what's the first film you remember seeing. I think the first film I remember seeing is Wallace and Grommit The Wrong Trousers Wow, which I absolutely loved. I had like a Wallace and Grommate alarm clock with the sheep that would pop out of a clock. Did they hamn't come out of the wood and hit you at the edge every morning? And that would drap me up every morning? That's great. And I had a big cuddly toy Grummet, which was sweet, although recently, not recently, maybe about five
years ago, when my mum moved house. I came home and my Grummit was outside the front door with like a load of other cuddly toys and she was throwing them all away and I was like, Mum, why is Grummet on the street? And she said, when you get to having children, Grummit will be moldy and your womb would have shrivelled up. So I guess the idea was that I've got no one to give Grummit too currently, so it was going to whoever wanted it on the street.
But that was a bit a bit upset that I'm imagining Grummit, like sort of Dino at the end of Flintstone outside the door panting to come in. Yeah, quite a good posture. Actually, yeah, it's great. But yeah, I loved I loved that, Wallison Grummit. Is that why you're an artist because that was your first film? Maybe? Yeah? Is that what's it called? That type of animation stop stop motion? Yeah? Very cool? I love it, really love it. Yeah. What's the film that made you cry the most? Are
you a crier? I'm not a crier. No, that's interesting, Annie, is it? I realized, Yeah, because I was just thinking then. I was thinking, I've known you very many, many, many many years. I've never seen you cry. I haven't even seen you close. I reckon you're a robot. I don't think I've ever cried at a film. There's some that have given me wet eyes before d X one, I've been accused a lot of being dead inside or having a heart of stone, which I don't think. I do
cry in real life, but in films rarely. That might mean that you're actually more healthy than most people if you're processing it in real life rather than through fiction. Yeah, because you can only process your emotion. I can only gray and through fiction. Yeah, and that's why you don't go to cinema with anyone that right. Correct, correct. But the film I've chosen is Peanut Butter The Peanut to Falcon love that film. It's a great film that gave
me wet eyes, really wet eyes. So I watched it in the Scottish Highlands, quite romantic trip and it was just a really beautiful film, very warm and lovely soundtrack. Wait, who told you you're dead inside? And made a statement just various friends, Like when I've seen to live shows don't really make me cry either. So I've been told a lot watching comedy that I can't laugh out loud. So people say, but I'm dead inside for that reason. But I think that's the result of doing comedy as well,
isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, I can see do you laugh shows? I do? I do laugh. Yeah, But I understand why you wouldn't. Yeah, But I guess I'm curious because it's so overpowering to me watching a film, as in, when you're having wet eyes, your is your stomach hare you're feeling things inside your body, or you've just got wet eyes. No, I don't think my stomach hurts or anything. Is that what you're describing sadness as having a no, just wet eyes,
I think. I mean there's like a feeling of emotion. Sure, yeah, but it's not like like I've never I don't think I've ever had it to like roll down my face watching a film unless I've been lying on my side, you know, sometimes lying on the side with their could disting on. Yeah, then I've cried. Fascinating, But yeah, it's a really beautiful film. It is. It is a cracker. And what's the film that scared you the most? I mean, we already know you're scared, given you don't cry of films.
Do you get scared of films? Yeah? I can't watch scary films. Hate hate horror films, and I couldn't well I was going to say what lies beneath, but that's not my actual answer. But I couldn't have a bath for like a year after watching that. I just eight horror films and used to hate going to like sleepovers at other people's houses because when we were teenagers, everyone just wanted to watch horror films and I'd get scared and want to go home. But I've chosen Gaslight, which
is from nineteen forty four. It's a black and white sort of psychological, sort of psychological horror, and yeah, this is where the term gaslight comes from, exactly right. So I first actually read it's based on a play. I read the play and I did a monologue from it for my Grade eight trauma exam, and then watch the film and it's it's very like melodramatic and obviously incredibly dated, but the psychological element of it is still like really distressing.
And it's about this man who basically convinces this woman to marry him because he wants to steal all the all of her family's treasure that's in the attic, and he convinces her that he keeps like buying her all these jewels and like expensive things, and then they go missing, and he convinces her that she's going mad, and she's very careless and loses all these things, and they keep getting invited out to parties and then he says, oh, I don't think you're well enough to go, and basically
convinces her that she's going mad. And the whole time he's been it's like giving her these things and then taking them away and pretending she's lost them, And so at night when she's in the house, he goes out and breaks into the house to another route to look in the attic for the treasures, and basically every time he goes upstairs, because of the way the gas lighting worked, when he turns the light on the attic, the lights
go down in her room. So that's why it's called gas lighting, because she was like, oh, the lights keep going down. I hear people like rummaging around and he's like, no, you're going mad. There's no one else in the house. How can the lights be going And it only happens when he's out, and then eventually he's discovered as being a psycho killer. But it's a very good film, and it's it's scary, not in like a horror way, but it doesn't make you jump. But the way he manipulates
her is pretty terrifying. Two questions, When what did you get for your Grade eight drama? And monolog of guess I got it honors? Yeah? Question two, do you remember any of it? And can you give us a couple of lines? I can't really remember it, but it's a good bit at the end where it's In the film, it's Ingrid Bergmann and her husband is tied to a chair, so the police officer has captured him, and she's in the attic and he's saying, oh, you know, you've got
me all wrong. You've got it untimy. There's a knife over there, and she basically picks up this knife and it's like, is there a knife, I can't see any knife. You're going mad and basically flips it so that he's gone mad, and it's just a really good bit of like her getting her comeback nice. It's a fun, fun scene. Excellent, excellent answer. What is the film that people don't like? It's not critically acclaimed, but you fuck love it? You
don't care. I don't think it went down badly at the time, but I wouldn't say it's critically acclaimed, but I loved the parole officer. That's a great answer, is it. That's a great answer, Yeah, by Steve Coogan. I think you're right. I think that was like a sort of three star. Yeah, didn't really do much. No one hated it, but no one was yeah to keep talking about it. Great. I just I saw it at the cinema and thought
it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. And I then got to meet Steve Coogan at a show in Oxford and I was so excited and he gave me his autograph because I was really cool and aspects autograph and he signed it Steve Coogan brackets, Alan Partridge, and I was like, who the hell is Alan Partridge? I just knew him? So why has he not put the parole officer? But yeah, very crazy, funny film. Also amazing that he signs things brackets Allen Partridge. Yeah, it was
a photo to sign photo. Still got it somewhere, oh well of him, but yeah, brackets, Alam part It's like a head of black and white head shot Steve black and white brackets ALP closed brackets, well not brackets the parole of Dream. Yeah, it's like, I don't know why he's are an Aha, I don't know what that means. And since obviously I think Alam Partrish is great now that I know what that is. Yeah, now that now you're really happy with that head Ye see that I
told you that, Well, that's a real revelation. I feel like that's an exclusive. What is the film that you used to love? You loved it so much? But you've watched it reasoningly and you've gone out. I don't like this anymore. This is the one I struggled the most with. But what I've decided on is bring it on. Because I used to love bring it on. I love bring it on. What's wrong with it now? Well there's lots of like slightly homophobic slurs and like fat phobic stuff
and cultural appropriation. It doesn't seem too stood the test of time very well. But I think I was obsessed with because I went to an all girls school, and well, we had two friendship groups in our year, and one was known as the slags and one was known as the cheerleaders. I was in the cheerleaders and we had we had like polar neck t shirts that said slag or change. Did you dream of being in the slags?
Or are you happy in your placing the cheerleaders? To be honest, I was happy with my place in the cheerleaders. They felt like the chi I think we were like the nice cool ones, whereas the slags were like the slightly bitchy cool ones. So who if one of those groups is the pink ladies, who are who is it? The Slags are the cheerleaders probably the well, I don't know they'd be crossover. I think there'd be a vendor diagram and pink ladies in the middle and the bags
and cheerleader on either side. It's it's a very different school than Ride. Yeah, and also we were nothing like Bring it On like it was a posh school in Oxford. We played hockey. We didn't do cheerleading, so I don't know why we called ourselves the cheerleaders pre embarrassing. So you were cheerleader. He didn't cheerlead and were the slags? Also they did and rock how they did? They held
out their end of the buggy. It would be fine to have the top now that said cheerleader on, but I think you probably wouldn't go out with the top that said slag on. Would you? You might do? Maybe it'd be ironic. Yeah, you might, or you might be reclaiming you know, you just might, You just might, You just mightn't. I'd love to back you on that, but
I'm saying you might well go out. I'd love it if next time I see you you're still wearing a black T shirt, but you turn around it just as slag's not a bad idea, what is the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but because the experience you had around seeing it will always make it special to you. Well. I went to see Mean Girls when it first came out with my dad in the cinema in Cornwall where
my grandparents lived. And we went to this cinema and red roof, and we were the only people in the entire cinema watching it, and both I don't know how old I would have been when it come out two thousand and four. I don't know I was a teenager anyway, maybe it's two thousand and one. And me and my
dad just both found it so funny. I was going to say we were laughing all the way through, but obviously I wouldn't have laughed out loud, but it was just I loved it so much, and so did he, and it was just quite cool being in a totally empty cinema in the middle of deepest darkest Cornwall. That's very nice. And then me and my friend Shannon at school learnt the she was also a cheerleader. Cheerleader, yeah, so did hang on? Did cheerleaders and slags not weren't friends.
You can, we're sort of periphery friends. But it was like like you could be friends with individuals in the slags, but it was like if you hung out as a group, it would generally be like the slags and the cheerleaders separately. Could you could you ever switch sides? I guess you could, but once once you got your T shirt printed, right, that's it, isn't it. But there was never like a meeting where it's like you've been you've been hanging out with too many slags. You have to leave us and
become a slag. No, I don't think there were meeting. There was a room. There was an empty classroom between two of the classrooms that was known as the Argument's Room. So at lunchtime they'd be like scheduled arguments and like like so like like a fight, but like a debate team instead like a like an argument, like would you all stand around going yeah, guy for it? It would
be it would be less like physical fighting. And I actually think the argument's Room predated the terms cheerleader and slack. But it would be like apparently you said that to that person and then that person blah, you know, just classic you know thirteen year old girls. Was there like a judge in the argument room? Who would rule like a judge? T D I don't remember, Yeah, I'm not sure. Probably How did the arguments get resolved in the argument room?
I guess the bell would have gone for the end of lunch time, and then that would be it, right right, The grievances would be a solutions might not have been fat Oh yeah, I think so, and then it would be like, you know, you go to geography something. Okay, So yeah, Shannon and I learned the jingle Bell Rock and Gretchen Wiener's monologue. Great, did you perform them? Just sort to each other? We did do it. We did a rendition of jingle Bell Rock at my friend Aeriel's
Christmas party. How did it going? It was not good for audio. It's a dance. It's fine. You know the pages they need to exclusive content. Oh yeah, it's video, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, well I'm sitting down. I can only do stand me yep. Okay, what about what is the film you most relate to any mcgret I most relate to Bend It like Beckham. I mean, I already really like you, but that makes me like you so much more. Please tell me. I loved to Bend It like Beckham. I watched it every weekend for a year.
When we moved from London to Oxford. That summer we were just we were like about to move house and me and my brother were playing football in the garden and I was in goal and he took a penalty and I saved it, but my left wrist bent so far back that I fractured my radius. And then when we moved to Oxford, I was just I think it was at the time Bend It like Beckham came out and I just watched it every weekend and I loved it.
Hadn't really seen women playing football on TV before and just found it so exciting and funny and warm and yeah, I just loved it. I I've just recently joined a women's football team as well, and when I first went, I was like, oh my god, I feel like I'm a med it like Beckham. What team have you joined? Legends FC? Amazing? And how have any playing every week? If I can? What is it proper properly eleven or Favors? No, it's just a five a side team and we all
wear pink. But Obviously women's football is like really big now, but at the time when Bend It, like Beckham came out, it wasn't at all. And even in the film they reference like how big it is in America, And obviously the end they go to America and David Beckham's in it for about ten seconds walking through the airport. It's a great film. And Johnathan Reesemy is really fit in it. Oh, yes, very fit. Dracula is he Dracula? I think he's one of them. I don't speak. Yeah, it was the sexiest
film you've ever seen. Eddie. Well, I'm regretting my answer to this already. I've put no shame on this podcast. You say that I've put Chicago. Okay, Well that's sexy. That's the shame coming in. It is a musical. But the Cell Blocked Tango is a very sexy when all the all the murderesses in jail, they're called murderesses in the film, by the way, that's not me gendering them.
All the fit women who have killed men do the cell blocked Tango in like fishnets and underwear, and they're all smoking in this dark prison and it's quite like empowering but also fit. That's it. That's the sixty point answer. You've just given great shame at all out of what it changes. All the home depends on. That's the first answer you've pointed exactly sot somewhere. So I don't know if it's good or bad because I've got nothing to
compare it to. Well, No, it is sexy Chicago, and you're absolutely right, and that's a perfect time great soundtrack as well. Yeah, a great musical. There's a subcategory obviously, Traveling Bone is worrying? Why dons what's the film that you found a rousing that you weren't sure you should Annie McGrath, Well, I didn't find the whole film arousing.
But my answer for this is The Lion King, but only the bit when Raffiki is painting on the tree, because the way he uses his thumbs to like paint the outline of you're like really slowly nodding, but it's like across your eyes, it's like she's fast it. No, I'm delighted because I thought you were going to say the bit where Nala and Zimba, you know, look at each other for a roll around and then look at each other and go, yeah, no, no, this is a
much better answer. You like the fucking artbit like yeah, which I only realized actually afterwards. I was like, oh, yeah, he's painting, so maybe it's that like with the hands. It's just a really beautiful, like simple outline of zimba. Yeah, it's sort of drips. It's very sexy. But also, I mean the only part of it it makes it troubling. I think I don't mind any of it other than that he's painting a baby. Yeah, but a lion cub a lying baby, Yeah, that's fine. And he's a baboon. Yeah,
it balances out. Yeah. And also I would have been a child watching it, so be weird. Yeah, if it was an adult lion, if yeah, if he was like painting and staffa and you were like yeah, yeah exactly. If it was scar, you were age appropriate to be tend baboon drawing a baby lion came exactly. I just said, come baby, Lanca, Oh God, can give me um? Really good twenty six points. What is the film is objectively the greatest film of all time. I loved Fighting with
my family. It's so good. It's so good. I only watched it at the beginning of this year at Stephen Merchant wrote it, and it's again. But I realized I've got two wrestling films because the Peanut Butter Falcon is wrestling and fighting with my family's wrestling. Apparently I love wrestling. It's just so good. It's really funny, and it's got everything you want from a film. It's got good sibling rivalry, it's got warmth, it's got drama, and it's nicely resolved.
And Florence Pew is amazing that Paige. I just thought it was brilliant. Did you get wet eyes in that? I cried a lot. Yeah, that was nearly going to be my other wet eye one. Yeah, I got really wet eyes in the pouring wet six times in that film. I was a wreck. I thought you said a wreck six times. I was absolutely rock hard. Are you an only child? No? Do I come across as well? No?
I've just realized that we we you just said in that sibling sibling rivalry, and I thought, oh, yeah, yeah, I've got a brother, so, an older brother who's eighteen months older. He lives in Australia, he's a doctor. Well, I know crazy, so yeah, maybe that's partly it the girl boy sibling rivalry and he's a doctor and he's a doctor and I'm not. Yeah, it's a lot of rivalry. There are you close? Do you? How do you fucking talk when he's in Australia? Yeah, we talk a lot.
I haven't seen him for two years because of the old pandemic? Do you? How do you what's the time difference with Australia? How do you talk to him nine hours ahead? I'm worried about you and your brother. Yeah, but it's fine because he works night shifts often because he's a doctor, So actually it works out quite easily to talk to him. But yeah, it's it's sad not being able to see him. He's got a girlfriend who he lives with. We've only met her on WhatsApp, as
in visually on WhatsApp, just through texts Okay, sorry, what's up? Video? Cool? I'd love it if it was just your brother sending pain texts the whole tel It's purely test. He was catfishing the whole family. I met this wonderful woman. Hi, guys, is that you or is that your girlfriend? She doesn't have her own phone. It's weird, does she only text through your phone? Does she exist? Yeah? I loved that film. Great, great answer. Yeah, one hundred and five hundred six point.
See it's out of more than a hundred. That doesn't bode well for the answer gave me twenty six. What is the film that you laugh at them? What film made you laugh the most? Clown really made me laugh? Have you seen Clown with a K? Tell me? It's a Danish comedy and it's very silly and quite crass.
It's sort of like Borat, but a Scandinavian version. So it's about a man called Frank who's trying to prove to his girlfriend that he's a capable father because she becomes pregnant with his baby, and in doing so, he basically kidnaps her sort of five year old son and takes him on a canoeing trip with his best friend. But they get into all sorts of scrapes and like go into a brothel and there's just some really funny, like very crude scenes. Is it done for real like
Bora is with real people? I don't think it is. No, But there's a scene where, I mean it sounds so bad when you describe it, but where he comes on his mother in law by mistake, and it is really funny because his friends have basically told him to win his girlfriend's affection, they really like it if you come in them when they're asleep, and as like a last resort, he goes to do that, but it turns out the woman in the bed is his mother. It's I think I've got quite a pure ole sense of humor, but
it is. The way it's done is very funny, and I think because of because it bit in Scandinavian, like, their delivery is really deadpan and really dry. There's some quite like offensive scenes, but they are. It's funny, it sounds, it sounds really funny and also interesting because your your comedy is I would describe as dead pan but clever and pure as well. Maybe that's it then what I'm drawn to. But do I get bonus points for saying a film? Saying a film that you've not seen before?
You get you get bonus points for picking a foreign language film and like and sort of being quite hazard about it. Really, yeah, like you've done that a couple of times. You know, you picked a Gaslight, which is, you know, a very old film, and you picked a foreign film here, and yeah, I made a thing of it, which is that may be cool. You've said it like it's normal for you to just watch you know. I actually watched clown Ages ago and really watched it recently
and forgotten. Was really annoyed when subtitles came up because I was like, oh, I can't look at my phone for like any of the film, So it's definitely not commonplace for me. It's really good. You get three points. What is the We don't like to be negative any so please be kinda. What's the worst film you've ever seen? The Notebook? Wow? Wow? I hate it's the Notebook so much.
And I think The Notebook as an example of one of those films that I watched when I was like fifteen with a friend and she was she had the wettest eyes I've ever seen afterwards, and she looked at me and she was like, I can't leave. You're not crying at the Notebook, And I was like, it's shit. I don't understand. But I wonder if I watched it now whether I might change my opinion of it. But I seem to remember it being very boring and predicted and not that sad do you love it your reactions
like this is my first answer. I know how how much people love that film. It's a real favorite. Yeah. I could argue that it's quite cheesy on some Yeah, but I also would say it's extremely well acted there really it's you know, it's some brilliant actors, which makes elevates it. Yeah. Well, I love Rachel McAdams, don't I because Girls is one of my in Cornwall. Yeah, with no one else in the room. But I think even Rachel McAdams and Ryan Goss, absolutely silent, can can salvage
the Notebook. I think we're going to get a lot of complaints, do you reckon? And for that, I give you seventy point. What will people say, just like, oh, it is a good film, they'll say They'll say at the beginning, I felt sorry that people said she was made of stone. But then towards the end she said that the Notebook was her worst forever main and I realized she actually is made of stone. I stopped feeling sorry. Fair, that's fine. I can handle that sort of trolling. Yeah,
it's quite well thought out. Feedback from that, what is the film that you could or have watched the most over and over again. The Nightmare Before Christmas, mate, I was going to mention that up top, because you're talking, we're talking about Willis and grummit, we're talking about stop motion animation. It's a little secret. I happen to fucking love stop motion animation. It's one of my favorite times. I absolutely love it, and The Nightmare for Christmas is
one of the great, great examples of it. I loved that film so much. I love the music, I love yeah, the stop motion, I love the characters. I fucking love it. Tell me great, well, totally agree with all those things.
It's such a magical, beautiful I feel like I've watched it like from when I was very little and could watch it and you know, every day, maybe not every day, got stuff to do, but I could definitely watch that over and over again, and it just feels it's so Christmasy and so sad and so happy, and so the
song's great, what's this? What's this? That song when he goes into Christmas Land and all the trees have those like beautiful paintings on them, and it just feels so magical and like the most otherworldly of all the kids films I did. Kids then in invert commerce because I don't know, I wouldn't say it is a kid's film really,
but no, it's quite that. It's so beautiful. The end is incredibly moving, I think the final moment, and if you have the soundtrack, there's a Patrick Stewart narration that is on the soundtrack that isn't in the film that is like a set up a prologue and an epilogue, And the Patrick Stewart narrated epilogue to this day, I think is one of the most profound things ever written. Oh really, it's so beautiful. It's just a little couple of paragraphs and it will change the where you live
in I really love it. I think it's it's so good and I'm sort of surprised it's not in the film, but the end of the film is equally beautiful. And yeah, I'm just that that hill that Jack and Sally are sort of silhouetted against with the moon behind the hill that like spirals into this really yes sweet shape. Yeah, and Sandy Claus is a great ideas, It's a really funny idea. Y Santa Claus is It's great, great, And then all the kids that get those horrible Christmas presents,
like the head and stuff like that. It's great. It's probably gonna make you look back over the rest of the episode, but you get one thousand and nineteen points for that. Wow. Yeah, I think it's when you give me a high school. I'm really pleased, But then I'm also thinking, God, I got really bad schools. For the others you often didn't get a score. You can keep that in mind, and you regret. You've been wonderful. Thank You've been an absolute delight, and you've had some excellent
answers and some really good stuff. However, when you were at Chessington Murder Adventures with all your friends and they'd said, we're all going, and you were like, in your head, you're thinking, I hate theme parts, I'm scared. I don't want to go on any of the rides, but I got Foamo, I don't want to miss out, and you said, ha ha she sort of jokingly, but you meant he was like, well I'll coming and hold all the bags ha.
And everyone thought fucking great. Because the locker system at Chessing him notoriously tricky, and so you went to Chessing. You sort of had a nice day, but a lot of it you were on your own, like your friends kept popping off to do rides, and the cues are ages. You couldn't stand the queue with him because you can get out of the que because of those mazes. So a lot of time you just had tope bags all over here. You spent a lot of time you couldn't
reach your phone. Sometimes you were like you, I couldn't get your phones with all the bags. Just a lot of the day just staring bleakly at rides and in a way the Chessington sniper who local sniper, and he's sort of he's still getting better and sometimes the rides are too fast from he started off bold like I'll shoot people on the rides, but it's too too hard. So he's had to be like static people. And he's like that lady over there looks fucking miserable. Maybe I'll
be doing her a favor. She's weighed down by bags, just staring bleakly at right Annie, And he said, I'll have us, I'll try shot, I'll aim for a read and he got your bang right in the right boob and you went, what has happened there? And then he will Thank God, my heart's right behind my left boob where I put him, and then he went, I'll have another goat reaimed shot you in the left boom. He went, oh, man, I wish that guy was a buck gay and fell
on the floor under all the bags. All the type bags covered you, so no one saw that you were bleeding because all the tape bags were absorbing all the blood. And you died and your friends picked up the bags. So cheers Annie, and they all ran off cheering and screaming. No one noticed and that those friends, by the way, were the cheerleaders and there they were, no no care in the world for you, just ran off into the
night screaming. I'm wondering around Chessington with a coffin, you know what I'm like, And I'm like, where's where's Annie? And I see you rotting? Yeah, because the rats at Chessington, famously, they're everywhere. They've started eating you. They've gone through your chest left, right side, left side, They've eaten your insides, they've come out through your belly button. I'm sorry, Annie, this is what you chose and they've devoured you in
tests there's stuff everywhere. I'm like, fucking no, these cheer leaders are the worst groups. You should have been in the slags all along. I knew it, so I get what I can of you. There's bits everywhere. I'm chasing down rodents to get extra bits of you. It's a mess. You've got bits of the other people's clothes on you, waterproofs everything, stuff you in the coffin best I can,
but it's absolutely round in there. There's only enough room in this coffin for you to take one DVD that I can slip in the side for you to take to the other side. And when you get there, it's movie night every night, and one night it's your movie night. What film are you taking? The show everyone? When you get to Heaven? Annie McGrath, I think we should that's what we should paint that story. I think that's the short. Yeah, lovely, yeah, lovely?
Should this be a film that I've spoken about already? Can be the film that I think I'm going to take in my coffin to Chocolate Land? Is Coco? Oh No, that's me smiling, smiling love Coco. Um, yeah, that's smiling. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't do it much, you know, you just shut your eyes. That's oh, that's sleeping, that's sleeping, that's sleeping, or dead and the dead's eyes open, isn't it? Um coco? I think it would be useful to have a film that is such a beautiful representation of death
and afterlife. I think that would be good for morale in the Chocolate Land Heaven. And it's got a lovely soundtrack. It's just a great film. It's a happy film and a sad film. It's got everything you want from a film. Yeah, what eyes? Yeah? Yeah, I love it. Lovely choice. Annie McGrath, Thank you for doing this. You're brilliant. Is there anthing you'd like to tell people to look out for? Listen
to watch? Maybe listen to my podcast Secret Artists, which is recommended on all the places where the podcasts live. And I'm on Twitter and it's the quietest plug. Don't worry if you don't want it. Yeah, really good. Thank you very much for doing this. Thanks for having me. Sorry about that last bit. Never apologize. Luckily, in the podcast notes they will write up what you whispered at the end about yourself promoted. You're the best. Thank you, No,
you have a lovely death. Enjoy Chocolate Heaven. Thank you, Good night. Good night. Thank you. So that was episode one hundred and sixty three. Handover to Patreon dot com forward slash Brett gold Scene for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets and video with Annie. Go to Apple Podcasts and give us a five star rating. But don't write about the podcast. I don't care. Write about the film that means the most to you and why. That's
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