Ania Magliano • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #221

actually yeah. Every week I invite special guests over. I tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life through the films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and even Cred Blambles. But this week it is the excellent, brilliant comedian Anya Magliano. Head over to the Patron at patron dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra fifteen to twenty minutes with Annia. We laugh

a lot, we talk about secrets, innings, all sorts. You get the whole episode, uncut and ad free. Check it out over at patreon dot com Forward slash Brett Goldstein along with all the other episodes. So Anya Bagliano is a brilliant standout who recently tore up the Edinburgh Festival. She'll be bringing her debut our absolutely no worries if not to Leicester Square on Friday the eleventh of November, as well as Sulford, Bristol, Brighton and Cambridge in twenty

twenty three. Tickets and more info are available on her social media at Anna Magliano. She's brilliant. We recorded this on zoom. She's so funny. I really loved this one and I think you will too, so welcome back. But that's it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and twenty one of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With.

It is me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor, a writer, a TikToker, a stand up sketch show, a year, a chicken shop data, a twitterer, a legend a writer on many things that you like but didn't realize she wrote them, and a legendary stand up who has just absolutely kicked the dick out of the editor festival with incredible reviews across the board. Please wemet to the show. It's the brilliant, it's the one and only its years, It's and ye Magliano. Hello God.

I've just clapped myself, but kind of hard not to. When you give me an intro that bolder should do, you absolutely should, And I was I don't even remember doing half of these things. You've done a lot of things that you've forgotten and we wiped your brain after you did them. But you've written on a lot of big shows that no one knows you did. Yeah, I under the radar, always on a Google doc typing away. That's where you'll find me. Tell me, And yeah, we

did a gig. You were very funny and very good. But you were also about to go to Edinburgh, which I know back from I had a little Google. I don't know if you look at these things, not that they're important, but you did very well critically, you did

very well. How was it? Yeah? I think it's easier to like retrospectively now be like, oh, I am happy with that result in the sense that like, do you know what, Like I obviously did care about reviews and stuff, but the main thing that I've realized after Edinburgh's that I'm like, oh, I think I do stand by that show. Oh great's huge. Yeah, I think at the end of the month you kind of lose faith in everything you've ever said, done, or will do, or have ever thought.

And I was like, I've lost my sense of self. Like four days after the Fringe, I was like, I'm applying to be a teaching assistant. Never done any training, but that's like the headspace I was in. Yeah, I hate children. I don't know what was going on, but now I did it. I did it again at Soho Theater and having a bit of space, I was like, oh I do like this show. I did have a nice time in Edinburgh. I just got a bit sad at the end because I was tired. Yeah. I mean

I've talked about this a lot in the podcast. Every time I've done Edinburgh, I completely mad, doesn't matter how but it gets a bit later the more I've done it. But how late were you into it before you last your marbles last week? I got to the last week. It's impressive. Yeah, I was. I was being like super like. It was like the most regimented I'd ever been in

my life, like I wasn't drinking. I wasn't drinking for most of the month, and then I had like half a beer halfway through and had to instantly have a nap because it knocked me out. My show was at four thirty thirty five. Yeah, kind of ideal actually because it didn't mess with my eating schedule, Like I was like, have lunch, I can still have dinner, and then I guess the show is secondary to that. Yeah, you've got to have priorities of the how many shows did you

do twenty six? I did? However many is like every day, because well I did. I had a day off, but I did an extra show on one day, so it was a lot of shows. But that whole month, I think I did like thirty one because I was doing spots and stuff, which is so I shouldn't speak for that long, Like no one needs to hear me that much of the thirty one performances you did, how many of them would you go that was a fucking smash? Yet how many of them would you go that was fine,

that was good? And how many of you go that was horrendous? I should leave. I think I would definitely like have an instinct of thinking it's good, but then as soon as I get out of the room, I'm like, I start to second guess it, and I'm like, I do this thing, which I think is quite It's like a protective instinct that I have, which if I know someone in the room and it wasn't like, in my opinion perfect, I'm like, oh god, that was that? Wasn't

that good? Actually, So that they're not like, oh you think that was good and I think that was bad, I'm like, yeah, that was rubbish. Well it's actually if they then don't go, no, it was perfect, then I start to spiral. Listen, you shouldn't ever have people you know in the audience, right, that's a pretty good rule for stand up. Yeah, I guess you can't really turn them away though I try. I mean I've made it

pretty hard. And first rule with people I know, Yeah, but sometimes they sneak in and you think, you know, I've telled this. Who knows if I've told this. My mum, who I said, has never had to see my stand up once trying to sneak in wearing a wig, and I know her, I know what she you know, I know her face quite well. Yeah, down the steps and it's not like I'm playing the O two. It's a fucking gig. And she walked down the stairs and saw me. We locked eyes and she immediately went up and turned

back up the steps. And I called her and said, did you just try and sneak in in a wig? I know your faith? Yeah? Did so she's never seen you, never seen me, unless she's got a better wig than I haven't. Yeah, she's got she's full prosthetic. She's in everything. She's got a wig that like covers like a big fringe. Even that I think I'd be like guys and it is in something's going on. Yeah, it's just too much.

I think like I had parents come to They came to both of both sets, because my parents are divorced, both sets of like my dad and my mom my set. Dad came to this year's Edinburgh and it was I thought it would be really okay because I don't know. In my head, I was just like, that's not nerd wracking. But then in the actual show, I was just so like one half of my brain was always thinking, oh God, my dad's having to hear me talk about this thing, this thing, this thing, and it just actually was. I

was like, why have I done this to myself? This was a situation that I chose, and all your stuff is very honest and some stuff yeah, and about them and about that yeah, I mean could you do that stuff looking in there? I did kind of prepare them before. I was like, just so you know. But also I think the fact that it is honest kind of worked in my favor because I was like, it's all true, so you shouldn't get annoyed about it, because it's just me telling facts, screaming at them from this dayee me

sue me for libel. It's all true. Christ, Christ, well well done. Did you go out every night and get absolutely messed up? No? No, no, I was being so sensible. I think I found it like quite anxiety in juson being like, there are people who've paid money to see me do a show every day, so I was like, I need to make sure I'm doing the best show I can every day because people have paid so much money to be up here. Because it's so expensive and

I paid so much money. I was like, no pint is worth the ridiculous amount of money I've spent on being in this city for a month. So I was like, I was like an athlete, you know. I was. I was playing football, like I was going to the gym, I was doing comedy. I was I was like a monk. That's not what monks do, but I felt like a monk.

Yea sucker. What who are you living with? I was living with a few other comics who we were in this like unique block, and it was like all con flats of comedians in this uni block, which was obviously hell because you're like, I just want to walk to and from my show and like have a little cry if I need to without having to be like, oh, yeah, how's your run gooing? Like wiping the twos from my eyes. Yeah, And the beds were awful and the showers were like

all overflowing. Well, damn, congratulations, thank you. We do it again next year. Yeah, despite everything I just said, Yeah, I'll be back. I won't remember. I'll be like I'll be like a goldfish back in there, being like, why is this so bad again? And you're speaking of horrid I've forgotten to tell you something. Oh boy, you well, I should have told you this up front. I see, despite all the you've died, you're dead, really, Yeah, really God. Actually,

that's classic me. That's classic me. That's textbook. And yeah, I'm honestly not even surprised. I'm not surprised I've done it. How did you die? Classic? Do you know that is the most mean thing that anyone ever said to me? Dead? She's dead? Yeah? What else is new? How did I die? Do you know what I think happened? There was like a huge fight outside my house, I really like sort of brutal fist fight which I was involved in, and

I wasn't. I wasn't the cause of it. I just went in to save like a young woman, right who was being attacked by a strangers, say due by a stranger, by a boyfriend or no, just by friend, just a friend. They were fighting, and I went in and I saved the day. I split up the fight then went young women fighting scrapping around. Do you know why they were faith? Did you ever hear the beginning of it? They're friends? Yeah, they were fighting to do it was something to do

with um. I don't actually know if I knew where they were fighting. It was just like a classic It was a classic girly scrap. Yeah, really brutal, as you said, Yeah, like a classic girly brutal. Classic girly brutal scrap are the four words that I've ended up saying. Yeah, classic girly brutal scrap. One of them has been absolutely pameled by the other. You come outside, Hey, hey, hey, calm down. I'm saying calm down, but I have to throw a few punches just to set and I don't favor why

both of both of them. Both both of them get it, and then you know that actually you're a great teacher. This is good. That unites them because they're like, what the fuck are you doing? We're friends again, right, Okay, so it did sell it in a way. Yeah, and then I go home and then I get electrocuted by my phone charger. Well a night Yeah, horrible note, classic night classic. So you sort of resolved this fight, got

to hit a few times, came in, touched the phone charger. Yeah, this is I think genuinely could be in my future. I've got this like sort of janky phone charger that like quite often in the morning when I reach over to like plug in like whatever charger I need into like the extension cable by my bed, I get a full electric shock up my arm, and I was like,

I think this is how I'm going to die. But I also think I would have to be doing something victorious or like impressive first, and I'd get through that and then I'd come home and it would just be like every day, like usual, I don't turn the switch off of the Maids. I'm like, I'll risk it today, I plug it in, I get in a bolt up my arm, but one day it will just go to the heart. Is this too dark? No, too listen? This

is less dark than the woman being brig Yeah. We I was like, let's pivot away from this because this was not This is not what I meant to say. Do you worry about death? Yeah? I hate it. I hate it so much. Yeah. And I think it comes and goes through phases in my life where I suddenly get really really scared about it, and like, I don't know. It's hard to know what the like right thing to do or in my head what the right thing to do is, because sometimes I think, with like certain difficult emotions,

it's like I need to feel this emotion. I need to make myself sit in it, like sometimes with anxiety or like jealousy or like those sorts of emotions, But when it's like death anxiety, I'm like, what's the point in feeling this? I just need to do something else, Like it's not going to make me live forever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I do get scared about it. Does that thought help you? Going, well, what's the point of this? It helps in the sense that I move out of it

and start worrying about something else. Right. Is the fear an empty nothingness or is it I've got so much to do? Or is it scared of not being here? What was the fear? I think it's kind of like the incomprehensibility aspect, just like I have no tools to understand this. It's like bigger than what my brain can comprehend,

and there's not much that fits in that category. But I think it's like it's also the fact that like at this point in my life, at the point of recording, like all the kind of grief I've experienced has been like been seen coming. It's nothing has been a real surprise or a shock. So like, I think there's also an element of like scared of other people's death and like surprise death that sort of thing, plus my own,

like I don't there's no death, my cat's death. Like, there's so much death that I'm like, Oh, that's going to be a nightmare when that happens. Yeah, when you put it like that, Yeah, but that's why I say don't. My advice if you're looking, it's don't love, don't, don't get close to anyone or anything, okay, avoid to avoid that sort of pain. What if I done that? Okay, Well, I would say, yeah, keep running into Brule's head first

and hope that you get taken out before. Yeah. Yeah, the people are things you loved it, Okay, then you won't again. You won't have to worry about the pain is losing it. Yeah, that sounds like a good plant. Do you think there's an afterlife? What do you think happens? Oh? I don't know. I think I definitely so. I was so scared of death as a child, Like it used to stop me sleeping at night. I used to be like awake in my bed just like I couldn't see.

My mom would come in, and my mum's a doctor, and she would tell me these stories of like oh they've done like studies or like they've had patience where they've died for like ten minutes and then they've been brought back to life. And these patients have said that they felt alive or like they could see the world, they were like rising up about them. She used to tell me these stories, I think, to calm me down, And I think I did find them comforting because I

was like, well, that's sorted there, Yeah, that's great. It's medicine. It's medicine, and she's a doctor, so she wouldn't lie to me. And I don't know if I've like consciously thought about it that much in like the rest of my life since then. That was probably the time where I was most like, I need this evidence of an afterlife. But I wouldn't describe myself as like religious or or anything,

but I guess it's one of those things. And I know a lot of people have said this sort of answer, but like, what what have you got to lose in believing in one? But also there's always a part of me that's like, but why would I believe in it if I don't actually believe it? Well, it's the same as like people saying, you know, have a positive attitude, and because better to enjoy the bit before the disappointment rather than go, this is going to be disappointing, and

then also be disappointed. I suppose it's like that, so he could go, there's there's a little be great, and then it will be also. Listen, let me tell you something, and it's all right. There is a heaven. Yeah, she was right. That's science. That's science, baby, science wins again. If a doctor said it, it's true. And also everyone's having the same hallucination when they nearly die. Come on, these are hard facts. This is science. There is a heaven.

You're welcome there. Everyone's very excited to see you. A lot of fans of your eneby show. By the way, tell the people that I'm who who maybe haven't seen your show. What it was called. It's one of the great title. Oh, thank you. It's called absolutely no war as if not. It's such a good title. Tells you everything you need to do. Yeah, it really does it really really really good tale. Thank you, great title. There is a heaven. It's fully of your favorite thing. What's

your favorite thing? My cat? Okay, there's a lot of your cats, claiming to millions and millions of cats. The savors are made of cats. You walk on cats. Their phone with it by the way, Yeah, all around you there's cats suits alive, Yeah, creepy, I like it. Yeah, and cats serving cats and cat tras. Anyway, the cats cats are very excited to see you. They love it.

They they're excited to see you. They want to talk about your life, but through films, and the first thing they want to know is what's the first film you remember seeing? Oh my god, I've accidentally done like the perfect transition. The first film I remember seeing was Cats. No, yeah, not the new one film Cats. I had. We had a video tape of the musical. Oh like the films, the film stage version, yeah, and cats. Cats were my favorite animals since I was like whatever one one of

the earliest ages. They were my favorite animal And we had this musical taping of it, and I watched it every night before I went to sleep. When I was like two to four. I would say I loved it so much. I used to draw all the cats. I wanted to do ballet classes because the cat in it, one of the cats in it, does like a ballet solo, and I was like, well, that would be my job. Like I was obsessed with it. Have you seen the new Cats? Yes? And how do you feel about it,

knowing you're obsessed with cats, absolutely like horrible, right. Me and my mom went to see it because she was like, oh, I want to see it because it was such a big part of your childhood. And I was like, oh, I don't know, Like it doesn't look like it's going to be great. There's all this controversy about their buttholes that sort of thing. And she was like, no, let's go, and we went and we watched it, and I thought

it was pretty bad, especially as a cat's purist myself. Yeah, And then she just came out and she was just I loved it. I loved it so much. Great, but I think she loved the like nostalgia of it as well, Whereas I was just like, they're ruining magical. Mister mustaphilis here, guys. This is awful because he has a butthole, because he doesn't have a but I wanted more buttholes right any reason. It was all about but I was a two year old girl lapping up those butt holes. What have you got?

Brothers and sisters? No love it? Well, I've got step brothers, but they're like later, they've come on later on in my life. So I grew up, I have the personality of like an only child with none of the excuse. Now I really like that. That's that's very nice. What is the film that made you cry the most? Are you a cryer? I am a cryer. I cried like twenty minutes before this call because I watched a video of a young child getting a dog as a present. Animals made me cry. But the film that made me

cry the most, I think was the Truman Shot. Really yeah, I went round to my friend's house, like when it was when I was in primary school, like one of my best friends. I just went around to her house like after school. I showed up like a bit later, and they were all her family were watching The Truman Show. And so I started a bit later later in maybe like half an hour in. And yet it's still like

emotionally affected me so much. I like found it the scene where he's like realizes that it's all fake, Like I just was like bawling my eyes out, And it was so embarrassing because I was at my friend's house and her like hot older brother was there, and I was like, there's nothing hotter than like a friend's older brother, and there's like nothing worse than crying. So it's like the worst combination of events. And I don't know what about it made me so sad, but it just like

unlocked something and I was bawling. That answer has never come up in this category before, although it's a very good film and everyone loves it. Is it because you worried that what you were growing up with wasn't real when your mum and dad got divorced? Maybe I think it was like a sense I feel what I get really emotionally affected by. It is like seeing vulnerability in other people, and like that moment is like really vulnerable, And maybe it's something to do with like the meaningless

of it. It's like, oh, your whole life was like so much, so different to what you thought it was, and that's really sad. And I also think, like I think I have a soft spot for like any male actor of that kind of dad playing Edge. I was always like whenever they would go through something hard, I would find it really upsetting. And that is probably to do with like parents divorce stuff. But like any Steve Carrell film where he got sad, I would be like

crying so much. It's just like all of that. Yeah, it feels it feels it feels so like I want to protect them. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, firstly, thank you for taking the what I said about your parents straight and without going what I do therapist. So I'm very used to. And it's that about the divorce. I mean, I thought it's been a bit cheeky, but I thought with it. Okay, what was your dad vulnerable cry in front of you? No? Yeah, no, I don't know. I think a lot of it was just like my emotions

about it. I don't think like he was still around and stuff like, it wasn't it wasn't particularly complicated. I think it was probably just like as a child. There was like when I was four. So it's just like you don't know how to deal with that. So like if you just lock it down or like learn to be independent about it, then whenever you see a film that like slightly pushes one of those buttons, it's like, well it's all coming out now. Yeah. Yeah, A great answer.

What about being scared? What's the film that scared you the most? Do you like being scared? Oh? Okay, So I have two answers for this, if you don't mind, because it's quite different okay, cool. So actual fear that changed my life was James Bond You Only Live Twice.

There's a scene in it when James Bond has just had sexual relations with a woman and they're lying in bed together and they're asleep, and like a spy or like an assassin comes in and crawls over the rooftop beams and drips along like a string down and starts dripping poisons that will go down the string into his mouth.

And he's lying like sleeping with his mouth open, and then at the last moment, like he stretches or something, and they move to the Bond girls underneath the string and it goes into her mouth and she wakes up fluttering and chokes to death. And I got so scared that that would happen to me that as I watched that when I was like maybe like eight or ten, and I slept with the dove covers above my mouth every night, which is absolutely bizarre because I didn't have

beabes in my house and also I didn't have any one. Yeah, and I didn't I was like eight, so I was at the top of the priority list for like assassinations. But it really freaked me out. Yeah, we can't know that for sure. What was the other one? The other one was Boyhood. Yeah, because of the passage of time. When I watched it, I watched it in the cinema and it sent me into like a four week long depression because I was like, oh God, this is inevitable. I'm sorry, I feel like I'm doing a really no,

this is this is the ship. So it was the passage of time that makes sense. I think I watched it when I was like sixteen as well, which I think is just like the age where you're watching it and you're kind of realizing a lot of this has already happened. I'm getting older, Like what's left for me? I'm sixteen having a full crisis about the aging. It's early. That's early to have that. Yeah, I don't know, it

just it just unlocked something in me. And I saw it with like my boyfriend at the time, and I remember he loved it, and I was just like sitting on the bus on the way back, just like having a full out of body experience, just like this is it. This is this is the end. It's going to be the end of the relationship. It's going to be the end of my life. Wow, Yeah, what is the film that you love? People don't like it. It's not critically acclaimed, but you love it. You don't give a shit where

anyone says Johnny English great. In my head as well, I thought of this as like an answer, and then I was like, oh, maybe it is critically acclaimed. And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, no, it's not. It is good. I watched it recently. I had to watch it for this podcast, and it's good. I mean, is it is technically comfortent comedy. It is good. I don't know if it would stand. I haven't watched it for a long time. If you like English, it's

really good. Yeah, it's classic Johnny English. Content title Johnny English. I think I remember like also as one of the films that I watched with my parents and they were finding really funny, like either my mom or my dad, I can't remember, but like I think when you're watching the film when you're young and like everyone's laughing, it's like, oh, this is the funniest thing in the world because we're all finding it funny. Yeah. I also think the theme tune to it is so good. I think i've got

it saved on my Spotify. Can you see it? To me? He's a man for our seasons, loves him and leaves him alone. So alone, He's totally Johnny English. What's the film you used to love but you have watched recently and you've thought this is no longer for me? The prestige interesting poor Qua. So I remember watching it the first time and being like, oh my god, what a twist. This is crazy. This is incredible storytelling. I had no

idea this was coming. Also, okay, I have to do a quick detour to explain something about my whole relationship with films I think, which is that I don't know if I definitely have this for sure, but my dad

has it. I think he has this like face blindness thing where you really struggle to detect faces, And I think I have it to some extent because I'm really bad at recognizing people and for ages in my life, I hated watching films because I would forget what every character looked like loads, and so I just would wouldn't recognize characters returning, and I'd be like to hear like non stop people in this film, Like it was really confusing to watch the new characters everything. Yeah, another one.

I think that was maybe also like something that passed when I was young. It was worse when I was younger, and now I've just like grown out of it or whatever. I don't really know how it works, and I haven't looked into it enough, but I did think, like I just remember being really confused in all films and not I'm really bad at recognizing famous actors in a film, like I won't know who it is. So I thought The Prestige was like an indie film. I didn't realize

that it headloads of famous actors in it. So when I watched it again, I was like, I think I was talking to my flatmate about It's my flatmate is like the biggest film. He's a film writer. He's writing a film at the moment. It's like being made. He loves films so much. Any good film I've seen in my life is like because of him. His name is Harry. He's like, should get all the credit for any good

response that I give. But we were talking about it, and I think we watched it again and I was just like, they just use a bit of actual magic. The whole premise is like, oh, it was trick, it's magic and then it's like, oh, but also he does clone someone or something like that, and you're like, yeah, I don't know if you can do that. I hear you. It occurs to me whenever I watched The Foot do really love that film, but I am a bit like

there was like an extra bit. The extra bit is, Yeah, it feels like it changes the rules of what the film is during it, the same as the now you see any films I love, like a magic film, but I find it funny when it's like they're like, oh, yeah, but also there will be some unbelievable magic in this, yeah, but there will also be a card trick. Yeah. I wonder if, like I wonder if it does exist on Like I have a friend who has face blindness and

they recognize people like fire. They're like identifiable hairstyles, which I guess is like a way around it. But it's probably not something that has had like a lot of research into because it does just sound like you're being an asshole, yeah, of being like I've got a disease. Well, i think I've got name blindness. I think I've got name blanders because I don't remember anyone's name, and people think I'm very rude, but I'm like, I think it's the things I know, their face, I know they are

I'm happy to talk to them about. Yeah, give me break. I'm disease. Yeah, give me a condition for God's say on, diagnose it. You know what I'm talking about, Lily. Yeah, I'll get my mom to diagnose you. She'll do anything. Yeah, please, She's good at that stuff. What is the film that means the most to you? Not because the film itself is necessarily good, but because the experience you had seeing

it always makes it a special one for you. And this isn't a film that I've like rewatched, but the significance of the first viewing of it was really big. High School Musical two right, I will explain please, When this came out when I was in primary school, I think, and the first one came out when I was in primary school as well. But we didn't have Disney Channel like me and my mom didn't have like any of

the extra TV channels. We just had like one, two, three, four, five, the classics, and so I couldn't watch High School Musical And like everyone else at Schooll watched it and everyone was like obsessed with it. It It was all everyone was talking about in the playground, like everyone had high school musical like lunch boxes, like everyone was like casting themselves as characters. And I was just like, I have no

idea what everyone's talking about. So then my dad kept trying to like torrent it for me, and he'd like, I'd get like CDs in the post of like a CD that then like wouldn't play on our TV, and it was just like impossible. I just I was not able to watch it. And then somehow, I still don't know how he did this. I haven't actually asked him properly. He managed to secure tickets to the High School Musical

two premiere. Yeah, so I got to see the second one in the cinema at the like actual premiere where they like turned the O two into like the holiday camps that they go to during it, and I was like, now I've seen it before everyone else, so that's balance this out. Did you go with your dad? Yeah, and he took we took our cousins as well, and it was just like the best best dad. That's very very cute. I like that a lot. Yeah, it was really really nice. Actually,

I'm like God. I didn't remember that story until I was thinking about the answers to the questions, and now I'm like, I should say thank you for that. That was really cool. Yeah, your dead sense, all right? You know from any mom. Give her a break, she's diagnosed both of us. What is the film you most relate to? This is like a hard one. I think. I definitely remember watching a film that I thought I was going to relate to because I didn't know what it was about.

I got really into boxing and I was going to do like a boxing camp and I watched Million Dollar Baby on the plane on the way there because no one told me what it was and told you where it goes. Yeah, and I just got off a plane like, oh fuck, I've got to do a month of this now. Really, where was it Thailand? I want to do boxing in Thailand? Yeah? Yeah, it was really cool. I loved it. It was a mad experience. It's like two hours minimum of boxing a day,

but you can do four plus like other stuff. But it's just like in a tiny camp in the middle of like a town four hours away from Bangkok, with like no one else there other than the people doing the camp. Like everyone else about like forty. I think the change because you could do it for different length of time. So like I was there for a month, but some people just came for like two weeks and stuff. Yeah, when was this January twenty twenty. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still

in a few group chats. So because everyone was from all over the like, it was such a mixed group of people, all people who were like running from something in their lives obviously because they all had to go, Like you don't do something like that without being trying to solve some sort of crisis. Yeah, it did. Actually, Like it's funny because I have ended up mentioning the camp on podcasts and stuff, but like the story is

too bleak of like why I went there. But it was just like a really bad end of the year where I had to quit my job. I was just having a really rough time. And then I was like, I want to do boxing and I want to go somewhere hot. And then I was like tie boxing, that feels like a thing, and I just googled it and then just like cooked a camp and went had you done any boxing before that? I've done like box fit.

I think the sort of like fitness boxing classes and I was like, I like the feeling of hitting things. Was it the same standard you and everyone was? It was quite a mix. But they were all tie the boxes obviously, and they didn't really speak English. It's all quite limited, like the way you were being trained. But what was quite funny was that, like, I think some

of this is on me. I should have known this, but I started following the instructions and they were all teaching like standard like right handed boxing, but I'm left handed. So I did three weeks of right handed boxing, and then in the fourth week, in one session, I like just did the other punch by accident, and the guy was like, hang on a second, and he like made me switch and then like suddenly I could hit really really hard, and he was like wow. Obviously he wasn't

speaking in English, but I could tell. He was like, you're a fucking idiot, Like why have you done three weeks backwards? Oh? Wow? Are you good now? Yeah? I'm still doing it. I'm not like I stop. Obviously stopped during the pandemic, and I just couldn't find the time with gigging and stuff because the place near where I lived did classes only in the evenings and I was going out in the evenings to do comedy. So but I want to get back into it now because I

want to fight people. Right, So, you going out into that brawl in the street before you died was pretty average for you. You were like subconscious raised voice, You're rushing in too, I'm ready, I'm ready. You think that's where do you see my left? I don't think I could do it in real life. That's a sad thing, is that, Like I think it's something where I will always want in my head to be like that's an

option for me. I could do really well in the street fire, but I'll never have to try it, And then it would anytime, like if I've ever had like a guy like wolf Whistle or be creepy in the street or whatever not that I would instantly go fight that. But I'm always just like I'm going to run away now, and in my head I'll be like, oh, you should have said something like I'm not actually confrontational at all.

Like if I have to tell my friend anything about like they've done wrong or whatever, I'll send it in like a WhatsApp with like four apologies. I'm very absolutely no worries if not like that doesn't match with like fighting someone in the street. Do you want to do? You want to fight? That's me in a nut show. I think, tell me what is the sexiest film of all time? I think the sexiest film got to be Blue is the warmest color. Yeah, it absolutely can be that. Yeah.

I don't really remember any of the film other than the sex in it. And I also don't think i'd seen any like queer sex on screen at that point. And I also don't think i'd fully come out as But so I think it was like the combination of those factors meant that I was just like, what the fuck? This is interesting stuff, but like completely zoned out for the rest of the film. And then the sex, I'm like, zoom, it's a lot of sex, long sex. It's a good film.

The rest of it's really good. Yeah, I should check it. I should check out the rest of it. You should ute the rest of it. I mean, yeah, listen, I don't know if you know this. It's problematic? Is it the actor only because the actors have said they were not comfortable making No, it's sad because they're excellent, you know, I get it really so, yeah, that's respectively awful you hate to read that stuff. You hate to read it because you go, well, was oh, that completely invalidates my answer.

I don't want I don't want it to I don't want to find it so sexually at all. I'll go, I'll pick I'll pick Johnny English again. Yeah, I don't want to take away you know what I mean. No, that's good to know that. I think like that is a shame, and it's also a shame, and maybe it just says something about like I hadn't just seen that many non male gaizy female sex scenes as in like two is the thing. It's a male director. It's all. I don't know. You'd have to do more more reading

on it. But it is a shame when you read stuff like that, because I do think that film is great, it's really great, and there's so much good in it. But it's a shame. That's so fucked. Yeah, that could now go in your traveling bone worrying why doesn't there you go, No, my troubling bone, I've got full different answers. I think for that, what's your traveling v worrying? Why don't a film we found it rousing that maybe you shouldn't it's not the film, but it's characters. Okay. Covid

in The Lion King two is really sexy. And yes, Covid, he's like the sun of scar and he's got like bad boy lion quiff. So it's like bad because I think it's like he's an animal, and I think he's also probably like teenager. It's okay. I mean as long as he's you know, the sixteen or making sixteen, that's troubling. Also, the sexy and Angelina Jolie character in Shark Tale that fish. Yeah, I mean I get it. It's the jolly. It's hard not to I get it. Absolutely fine, funny when they

make the animals sexy. Yeah, because someone's job is like designing that, isn't it. It's like putting the boobs onto the fish. What a job? Yeah, what a job. I often think about that, like with Jessica Rabbit, when people go, oh, it's just a cartoon. They go, but it's obviously very sexy. It's a sexy cartoon. But someone drew probably on their own in the office later, Still very odd, didn't Someone's adding bulges to these yeah, two d things, like it's

a conscious It's not like an accident, is it? But I think it says how basic we are in it, Like it is literally a picture of a round thing. Can we go that fucking circle is lovely, fucking perfectly drawn circle? God, we're so not complex? No, I am certainly not. Yeah, a circle in front of me. I'm anyway, what is the objectively the greatest film of all time? I couldn't back myself in an argument about films ever, Like I'm not. I don't think I've like particularly good

taste in film. But I think I think I'll say Dead Poets Society. That's a that's a great answer. You can have it. No one said that in this category you can have that. I think I think I'm judging it on like the emotional intensity it made me feel, like the characters like I just remember, just absolutely loving it. Do you know who directed that? No? Is it some pedophile or something? No, second guessing all my answers. No, it's a brilliant filmmaker called Peter Weir. You know what, els?

Peter Weir directed the Truman Show. What ye look at you? Peter Peter Weirs? Then I'm in the Truman Show, I must be Yeah, wow, that's where you would say, shitbait. God. He gets to my whatever his emotional languages is mine as well. He knows how to turn my buttons. That's not the word. I want you to watch a film called Fearless that he made that not many people seen. Okay, I think he's fearless. I think it might it might

sort you out A great answer. What is the film that you could or have wat's the most over and over again? The film I've watched most over and over again for a period of my life. I haven't watched it recently is the Hugh Grant rom com music and Lyrics, Yes Love, which I was like when I first got like a laptop and was allowed to download one film from iTunes. That was I think the one I downloaded just by chance, and so it was the film I just ended up like watching loads. But I also loved it,

and I loved the songs in it. I actually think I did rewatch it. I rewatched it when I had to do like a I had to do like a weekend of gigs away last year. It was like December. It was in Hereford. I died on my ass at both the gigs, and I was like, I need to watch music and lyrics, like something in my body just took over and I was like, this is the only thing that will help right now. And it was quite good. It's like a classic silly, silly romcom film where you're like,

this is ridiculous. I love it. He's great, he's great, she's great. I've been watching About a Boy for the first time over the past few nights. Great. Yeah, it's good stuff. I haven't seen any films. I'm not a very good person to come on a film podcast like I listen anyone beat a weird films? You're fine, Yeah, this is good. Yeah, we don't know to be negative? Do it quick? Oh please? What's the worst film you ever seen? And where the cruel Dad's sing? Wow? Very new. Yeah.

I was so angry when I watched it because I love the books. I think it's like I don't think it's like an objective judgment on the film. I think it's like, yeah, how high my hopes were versus what direction the film went in. And I was just really sad because I was like, this feels like it could have been done so differently in a way that was that made me feel like I felt when I was reading the book, but instead it just feels like it's not the same question what is the perfect film of

a book? Like what do you want when you love a book so much and then they make a film? I would do almost sometimes I'm only thinking this now for the first time ever. I'm thinking why would you see the film? Like what in your head is the perfect version? Is it exactly what you imagined when you were reading it, or is it a new way of looking at the book that surprises you and makes you see it in a different way, Like what's the ideal version of that book? Yeah, that's such an interesting question.

I don't know what it is. I think it might be like I think you probably you'll be better to say the second one, because it's so unrealistic that someone would make one that's exactly what's in your head. I guess you maybe want to want them to make some like cool creative decisions which use the film medium to add something rather than just try and make it as true, not as true to the books. That is what I

was criticizing, what the chord that'd sing for? But like, I don't know, I think I like it when book. I think the way a book makes you feel is so different from the way a film makes you feel, just because of the way you're engaging with it. That like you've got to use whatever film has to your advantage. Put a cgi dragon in that sort of thing. You know. One of my favorite books and films is The Virgin Suicide.

When you read I saw the film before I read the book, and when I read the book, I was like, like, the film really feels like the book. The book feels like the film. Film feels like the book. That's a great examp when you think about it. There's music in the film. It is obviously not in the book, and that makes that I think that's the sort of one of the creative ways she makes the feeling of these descriptions of love and obsession and feeling is through music. Yeah. Yeah,

I guess there's something about that, isn't it. Like did you say you read the book after you watch the film? Yeah, I watched the film first. I think that's quite a nice way around, I guess because you are like adding depth potentially rather than like losing it. I think sometimes it feels like you're losing it when you watch a bad film of a book. Well, we're all having a thing, aren't we what is? You're in comedy, you're a comedian, you're critically acclaimed. When now, what is the film that

made you laughter most? Other than Johnny English? I think it might have been watching Anchor Man in the cinema with all my friends when I was like at a stage in life where going to the cinema is like what we did every week, and we just saw all the comment we saw like Bridesmaids. That's another close call for that, seeing these group strong character cast films. We'd just be losing our minds, like coating it to each other for the rest of the year. I think it might.

I think it probably was Anchor Man. But I don't touch any of these films again, Like I let them like exist as that memory. I don't revisit them, So I don't know if i'd still find that the funniest film. Yeah, it's a risk in it. Yeah, sometimes you have to let them go. Yeah, I don't know. I think, like I don't really laugh out loud that much when I watch stuff, So unless I've seen it in a cinema with friends, like it's unlikely that I've had a physical

response to it. So in my head. It doesn't get categorized aes like funny. Yeah, do you laugh out loud when you watch films? But it's surprising. When I was watching Baskets, the TV show Baskets, and there was a scene where the mum drank an in time bottle of bottle of something until until she just just suddenly in the middle of the scene downs an entire bottle of I think sparkling water until she basically burps, and it made me laugh. So I laughed for about five minutes. Right, wow,

and what are you doing? Okay? Thank you? By surprised, I think I'm very basic. I think if someone burps or that does it for you. Yeah, I told you I need circles and burps. I'm very simple. Yeah, you're really back to basics or the guy real back to basics, guy,

Annie Meglana. You've been absolutely delightful, fascinating and brilliant. However, when you took your lethal weapon at my boxing skills to the streets when you had two friends, two friends having a lovely yet brutal scrap outside your door, and you went outside and you said, I'm believe the weban,

I'll leave the weapon. I beleave the weapon right hand, right hand, right hand, and they went, your right hand is quite weak, and you went shut out power and hit with the left hand, and they ran off, screaming into night. And you said, my work here is done. Yet another couple of women are radily beaten up. And then you went inside and you went to plug in your phone, because you hope you were filming it as

well from TikTok. You point the plug in your phone and it electrocuted you right into your heart and you fell to the ground and you sat on fire, and then your house sat on fire, and then it spread to the street, and your entire street was a blaze. Hundreds of people died. It was absolutely really dark nightmare. Anyway, I was walking past with a coffee, you know what I'm like, And I see this blaze ago, bladdie, isn't

it where Annie mcdanna lives? Put out of the fire using my own spit, but out of the fire, and I find your your burnt carcass there it is still holding desperately, your TikTok still running. It was a live feed. Your views are gone through the roof. You'd be delighted, thank God. And anyway, chuck you up into bits, put you in the coffee. There's more of you than I was expecting because of all the furniture and stuff that's burned into you. And there's no room in this coffin.

There really isn't. It's full. There's only enough for room for me to slide one DVD into the side for you to take across to the heaven field with your cat claimed a million times? What film would you like to show the Cat of Heaven when you it is your movie night and your Megliano School of Rock. Yes, please, thank you, You're welcome. Best film of all time for me? Correct? Correct? I think I know all the words. Nothing wrong with that? What a perfect answer. A perfect film. It's perfect. There's

nothing wrong with that film. It's so good, so good, I can like see it in my head. I directed that? Who not Peter were No, but the guy directed Boyhood did what? Yeah, it's just all the same guys. You like two guys you like Richard link Letter in Peter Weir. They're both excellent filmmakers. Wow, maybe I do have to change both of them. Range dead Players fucking Boyhood is called the rock the Range. Yeah, God, I guess I was maybe I can talk about my favorite maybe I

have favorite directors. Maybe that's something that I know about myself. Now you love an auteur's classic. You can't shut me up when I get onto autars. Just Bagliardo, They should you and your Bagliano. Is there anything people should look out for, watch, listen to of you? Oh yeah, I've got a show. I'm doing my show, the one from the one from the title. Absolutely no worries. If not. I'm doing it in the Leicester Square Theater on Friday, eleventh of November at nine thirty pm, and that's like

the last night I'm doing of the show. It's like one big, one big bang, one big bang if anyone wants to come to that. If not, just like the classic social media I am posting on this so much, so much, but yeah, any of those okay, say hello, Well, thank you very much for your time. This has been a real pleasure. Thank you for having me. I hope you have a wonderful death and good night bye. So

that was episode two twenty one. Head over to the Patreon dot com forwards left Brett Golds team for the extra twenty minutes of chat, secrets and video and all the other stuff with Annie. Go to Apple Podcast. Give us a five star rating, but don't talk about the show, right about the film that means the most of you and why Maureen reads them. She always cries she loves it. That's very nice if you do that. Thank you so much to Anya. Go see her show. Thank you to Scrubs, Pit,

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