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Feed: a food systems podcast

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Is local or global more sustainable? What role should meat play in our diets? Who holds power in the food system? In a polarized world, this podcast explores the visions, values and evidence behind these debates. Feed, a project of TABLE, is in conversation with diverse experts who are trying to transform the food system. 

Originally established as a collaboration between the University of Oxford, the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences (SLU), and Wageningen University & Research (WUR), the TABLE network has since grown to include la Universidad de los Andes (Colombia) and la Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México. This podcast is operated by SLU. 

For more info, visit https://tabledebates.org/podcast/ 

Episodes

Joachim von Braun on an 'IP for Food'

Joachim von Braun, former Chair of the Scientific Group for the 2021 UN Food Systems Summit, lays out the importance of an inclusive process and multi-disciplinary scientific collaboration to meet the calls for food system transformation. Dr von Braun joins us to talk about his experience as Chair, what he sees as the successes of the summit, and what work remains to be done. We also discuss who should be involved in knowledge production and how, and we hear his thoughts on whether we should cre...

Aug 11, 202241 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Busiso Moyo on the Right to Food

“Everyone has the right to have access to sufficient food” is written in the South African constitution. But how is that implemented, and who is responsible for making that a reality? Scholar-activist Busiso Moyo grapples with what ‘a right to food’ actually looks like in practice. In our conversation, he shares why he sees 'right to food as a valuable framework to build a just food system. We also cover various aspects of power in the food system including: agenda setting power; power of corpor...

Jul 21, 202227 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Jayson Lusk on Markets and Consumer Power

In this episode, Agricultural economist Jayson Lusk puts forward a vision of how science, technology and innovation are what we need for a sustainable food future, and what aspects of power he feels are getting in the way of this future. We discuss: whether having more information actually changes what food people buy; why Jayson is excited about venture capital flowing into the food system; and why he disagrees with some of the narratives and policy proposals put forward by the “food movement”....

Jul 07, 202247 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Parsing Grindadráp (with Tamsin Blaxter)

Tamsin Blaxter, researcher and writer at TABLE, joins Feed co-hosts to talk about her forthcoming publication: "Parsing Grindadráp". Grindadráp is a Faroese whaling practice that's understood both as important to local food cultures, and as barbaric, primitive and cruel. In this chat, we use grindadráp as a case study to explore: what is animal sentience? What's different about killing whales versus farmed animals? Where do older food traditions fit into the present? How does international media...

Jun 23, 202232 min

What is Ecomodernism? (with Helen Breewood)

In this mini-episode, TABLE staff member Helen Breewood joins Feed co-hosts to talk about her new publication, "What is ecomodernism?" The explainer describes the values, goals, and practical solutions promoted by ecomodernists; what they would mean for land use and the food system; the history of the ideas that underlie ecomodernism; and the main contestations around the values and evidence underpinning ecomodernism. We ask Helen about the explainer, the challenging review process, and how she ...

Jun 09, 202215 min

Elena Lazos Chavero on Scale, Seeds and Sovereignty (rebroadcast)

In our conversation with social anthropologist Elena Lazos Chavero (National University of Mexico), we discuss how her research interests were formed around rainforest conservation, food systems and indigenous rights in Veracruz, Mexico. Elena explains how local and global food systems as well as urban and rural communities are highly dependent on each other. We also explore what the food sovereignty movement in Mexico stands for today. This episode originally aired on 19 April 2021. For more in...

May 26, 202247 min

Jennifer Clapp on Commodifying Food (rebroadcast)

Has the increasing commodification of food and financialization of the food system left us more vulnerable to food crises? We speak with Jennifer Clapp about the 20th century history of food policy that led us to this moment, how the Covid-19 food crisis is different than previous ones, and how diversity, in all of its forms, is essential to building a resilient food system. This episode was originally broadcast on 25 March 2021. For more info and full transcript, please visit: https://tabledeba...

May 12, 202254 min

An open-ended discussion on power in the food system

On 8 December 2021, TABLE hosted an open-ended discussion about power in the food system with representatives from civil society, academia, media and the private sector. At TABLE we recognise that our own biases and perspectives will influence how we think about power in the food system so the purpose of the event is to hear a range of different views and understandings of power. This kick off event helps us think about who and what shapes, controls and influences past, present and future food s...

Apr 28, 202259 min

Herman Brouwer and Joost Guijt on Power in Multi-stakeholder Partnerships

In this episode we explore the role of power in multistakeholder partnerships (MSPs) with two people who are no strangers to this topic - Herman Brouwer and Joost Guijt, at Wageningen University and Research. In this conversation we ask: what are MSPs, do they actually work, and what are the different ways that power plays out in them? We learn how different food stakeholders perceive MSPs differently, whether the UN Food Systems Summit could be considered a successful MSP, and what are some tip...

Apr 07, 202255 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Channa Prakash on GMs, Golden Rice, and the Green Revolution

In the third episode on power in the food system, we speak with Dr Channa Prakash , professor of crop genetics, biotechnology and genomics at Tuskegee University in the United States. Channa has been actively involved in enhancing the societal awareness of food biotechnology issues around the world. We speak with Channa about who decides what ends up on our table, discuss how his personal story connects to the Green Revolution, and unpack how he sees ideology as getting in the way of science. We...

Mar 17, 202251 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Julie Guthman on Capital, Tech and Alternative Food

In our second conversation exploring power in the food system, we speak with Julie Guthman , professor and food geographer at UC Santa Cruz. We ask her: how is Silicon Valley trying to transform the food system, who within Silicon Valley has the most power, and how does their vision compare with the Organic food movement? We discuss the different ways 'sustainability' is understood in these two different worlds and the broader structures that define or limit their competing visions. We also chat...

Mar 03, 202246 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Phil Howard on Corporate Consolidation

In the first Feed episode about power we speak with Phil Howard, author of Concentration and Power in the Food System , a book that asks "who controls what we eat?" We dive right into big questions, asking whether Phil Howard’s ideal food future is compatible with capitalism. We also talk about the rise of organics, how is power distributed within corporations, how a US farmer’s prospects about staying a small and diversified operation has diminished over time, and how food corporations intent o...

Feb 17, 202240 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Introducing Season Two: Power in the food system

We kick off our second season introducing our new theme power in the food system. Across the season we’ll speak with researchers, farmers, activists and others to dig into what kind of power shapes food systems, if this needs to change, and how. Send us an e-mail to [email protected] with what aspects of power you’d like to us to explore and which guests you’d like us to speak to. For more info and transcript, please visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode19...

Feb 03, 20226 min0

Food systems investors on COP (part 2)

What does it actually look like to influence large companies to change their practices? In this conversation with shareholder advocates Annalisa Tarizzo and Thomas Peterson from Green Century Capital Management, we discuss how food systems investors use their unique leverage and work with other stakeholders including agribusiness, NGOs and policymakers to build a sustainable food system. This episode is part two of three of a mini-series on COP-26. For more info and transcript, please visit: htt...

Dec 22, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 18

Why isn’t food on the COP agenda? (part 1)

Why was food absent from the climate agenda in COP-26, the global gathering that took place in Scotland in November 2021? In this bonus episode, we speak with different people who attended or advocated at COP for food to be more central to the climate agenda. We hear from a youth activist (Vera Röös), a representative of civil society (Pete Ritchie at Nourish Scotland) and a politician (Secretary of International Affairs Marta Suplicy in São Paulo), who say we cannot reach emission reduction tar...

Dec 09, 202140 minSeason 1Ep. 17

Pat Mooney and Charles Godfray debate the future of food systems

Just three decades ago, the world looked very different: smartphones wouldn't appear for another 15 years, and in the world of food, the organic and local farming movements looked very different than they do today. Moving three decades into the future, what might food systems look like in 2050? We speak with Charles Godfray, director of the Oxford Martin School, and Pat Mooney, executive director of the ETC group, and ask what their ideal food future is, how to get there and what they are most c...

Oct 26, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 16

What scale for the food system?

In the final episode of our first season, we share our main findings and reflections from the past 14 conversations we had about scale in food systems. We present our guests' different views on whether local or global food systems are more sustainable and resilient, and whether that is even the right question to ask. We discuss the need for a diversity of scales and why both small and large farms and long and short supply chains are important. Finally, we examine whether large-scale elements of ...

Sep 30, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Elin Röös, Johan Karlsson and Robin Harder on "Values in Food Systems Models"

In our conversation today with three researchers from the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences (Elin Röös, Robin Harder and Johan Karlsson), we discuss what food systems models can and cannot tell us about what type of future food system we'd like to create, previous projects modeling food systems at different scales (bioregion, country, continent), and how our values influence what questions we ask from a model and how we interpret its results. For more info and transcript, please visit:...

Aug 26, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Felipe Roa-Clavijo on "Feeding the village, nation, or world"

In our conversation with Felipe Roa-Clavijo (author of The Politics of Food Provisioning in Colombia: Agrarian Movements and Negotiations with the State ), we discuss different narratives around food provisioning in Colombia, and find out which groups are promoting these different visions - to feed the village, feed the nation and feed the world. We talk about what it was like to be in the room during the negotiations between agrarian movements and the government, how Colombia's food system comp...

Jul 29, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Sophia Murphy on "Getting the global rules right"

In our conversation with Sophia Murphy (Executive Director of the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy [IATP]), we talk about the importance of trade at different scales throughout the food systems. Sophia discusses how ‘local’ systems have always been a part of extensive trading networks, how trade can meet the needs of diverse constituencies across the globe, and what needs to change in international governance for this to happen. For more info and transcript, visit: https://tabledebates...

Jul 08, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 12

Klara Fischer on why "Technology is not scale-neutral"

In our discussion with Klara Fischer (associate professor in rural development at Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences), we discuss how different smallholders in sub-Saharan Africa adopt and adapt different technologies, why new crop technologies are not scale-neutral, lessons to be learned from the Asian green revolution, and why it's important to work in interdisciplinary teams and be aware of the boundaries of our own knowledge. For more info and an episode transcript, visit: https://t...

Jun 17, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 11

Vincent Ricciardi on Challenging Assumptions

In our discussion, data scientist Vincent "Vinny" Ricciardi challenges the assumptions and evidence that are built into food systems debates. We talk about a few of the recent papers that Vinny co-authored, including one that asks how much of the world’s food supply is produced by smallholder farmers, a 50-year meta-analysis that compares how do small and large farms size up in terms of yields and biodiversity impact, and whether smallholders actually have access to broadband to become part of a...

Jun 03, 202140 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Jessica Duncan on "We eat, drink and breathe food policy"

In our conversation with rural sociologist Jessica Duncan (Wageningen U), we talk about dialogue and participation in food policy, why we shouldn’t always be seeking consensus, and the importance of bringing diverse local actors into global policy conversations. We unpack Jessica and Priscilla Claeys' 2020 report Covid19, Gender and Food systems and discuss what is gained by "viewing the crisis from below". For more info, visit http://tabledebates.org/podcast-episode9...

May 20, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Brent Loken on "It's not so simple"

How can shifting towards a planet-based diet reduce biodiversity loss? In our conversation with Brent Loken, Global Food Lead Scientist, at the WWF, we unpack the 2020 report Bending the curve: The restorative power of a planet-based diet , and dive into the complexity and tradeoffs between different diets, and human and environmental health. We talk about different responsibilities of nations across the world, whether eating meat is really a problem, and why we shouldn't be betting on a single ...

May 06, 202146 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Elena Lazos Chavero on Scale, Seeds and Sovereignty

In our conversation with social anthropologist Elena Lazos Chavero (National University of Mexico), we discuss how her research interests were formed around rainforest conservation, food systems and indigenous rights in Veracruz, Mexico. Elena explains how local and global food systems as well as urban and rural communities are highly dependent on each other. We also explore what the food sovereignty movement fights for in Mexico today. For more info and transcript, please visit: tabledebates.or...

Apr 29, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Jamie Lorimer on the Probiotic Planet

In this conversation with environmental geographer Jamie Lorimer, we discuss different ways of conceptualizing scale; how ideas of scalability, globalization, and homogenization have shaped food and other systems; and how the tiniest of actors, microbes, can potentially have huge impacts on these systems. For more info, visit: tabledebates.org/podcast-episode6

Apr 08, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Jennifer Clapp on Commodifying Food

Has the increasing commodification of food and financialization of the food system left us more vulnerable to food crises? We speak with Jennifer Clapp about the 20th century history of food policy that led us to this moment, how the Covid-19 food crisis is different than previous ones, and how diversity, in all of its forms, is essential to building a resilient food system. For full show notes and transcript , visit: tabledebates.org/podcast-episode5...

Mar 25, 202155 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Sahil Shah on Scaling Seaweed

What role can seaweed and different technologies play in building a resilient food system? What are the potential tradeoffs when scaling these technologies? In our conversation with Sahil Shah, co-founder of Sustainable Seaweed, we examine how livelihoods might be impacted by scaling and whether marine-based solutions offer an alternative avenue for food production and climate change mitigation outside of terrestrial ecosystems. For full show notes and transcript , visit: tabledebates.org/podcas...

Mar 18, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Lauren Baker on Connecting Local and Global Scale to Place

How do people and organisations work to transform the food system? Are there effective strategies to connect local movements across the globe? And is it the size or scale of their operations, that connects them to each other, or is it something else? Lauren Baker, director of programmes at Global Alliance for the Future of Food , has been working to transform the food system for decades - in Canada, Mexico and across the world. While Lauren's work may focus on a more local or regional scale, she...

Mar 04, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Rob Bailey on Global Food Trade Chokepoints and Vulnerabilities

Have you thought about the system of trade that brings food to your market or grocery store? Do you wonder if that system of global food trade, where 25% of all agricultural products are now traded internationally, is a vulnerable or resilient one? Rob Bailey, climate director at Marsh & McLennan , has examined how potential disruptions to trading routes can have severe impacts on global food security. Rob Bailey lays out the worst case scenario that could lead to a global food catastrophe. ...

Feb 25, 202134 minSeason 1Ep. 2
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