MLB: Leading Off July 13th, 2022 (Ep. 551)

The Sales back on Let's play ball. Welcome in everybody to fantasy pros. This is leading off, brought to you by bet MGM, the King of Sportsbooks. It's me, Joey Pa Joe Pisapia, and with me today, as always, is the Welsh, Chris Welsh, and it's you, the Peanuts and the Cracker Jacks. And today we're getting closer and closer to the All Star Break. But there's a rebound, a resurfacing, if you will, of Chris Sale. We're gonna talk about that today. We're gonna talk about the Mets Brave Series

Almost like they knew what they were doing, almost like they planned it perfectly. I like it, no, as it should be. These are the type of thing I mean, obviously in parody of these sports. You know, you can't predict when the team's going to completely fall apart or anything like that, but they do a pretty good job of knowing where teams are going to go and creating a pretty good schedule.

I like it. I like this too. Mister Buster is back today. He's finally tuning in this work. He's been he's been out, I guess unavailable to watch the show. He missed all the peanuts and the cracker jacks. But a break for me was nice. This is what happens. He give somebody a hat, you let them win the contact.

You know. Yeah, Joe, you Joe.

They turn on you. They turned on full.

We are by the way coming full. We are with the we are yeah, my rid zone.

They got to get the fancy blues behind me all that. I feel like we're going on.

We're like the background profile pictures of the fantasy footballers. We're just like a bright color and then our head. It's fun.

All right. Let's talk about Chrissale. He did hit the k prop over the four and a half. He got the five zah Griselle blanks, the rays and the season debut, so he was very good out of the gate. As we were talking about, these guys come back, they're ready to go playoff time. Basically, right here, you're making playoff pushes in the second half, it's go time. Chrisale is the big addition here for the Red Sox. In the second half, Logan Web strikes out eight over six scoreless innings.

Yeah, I'm confused by where they're going to go with it outside of just amassing trades and getting more bullpen arms, probably to get a third guy in there to join in the rotation. The other day they brought in a roll this in the fifth. I think it was our sixth inning and Clay decimating. Here is what makes me sad, because you know, I've been like big team top ten closer Clay Holmes rest a year and Chapman struggled at all.

Just what GQ picture of Doctor Glenn too, Like he's like literally on the cover of GQ. You just got like the fscapes. Yeah, that's true. He is kind of representing visitors. That is a chiming into the Mets offense has me concerned me too. They certainly need they The problem is when Alonso's not driving in runs or he's in the slump and he is right now, that's what happens. But look, you know it was a good game there yesterday.

Because of the inconsistencies of like.

He's but also watching him mechanically. He's a smaller guy too, you know, He's not like one of these big guys throwing one hundred miles an hour. You know. I just feel like modern day baseball watching him mechanically, watching what he does, watching the size of him, watching the lack of you know, he didn't get a long run at Clemson, you know what I mean, because of the COVID stuff and all the things that were going on there, So it was like he had, like, you know, his big

And I think you're off base. I mean, I think some of those concerns were there with him, but I think the biggest I mean he is throwing. I mean he's throwing strikes and getting strikeouts at an elite clip. He's striking out. I haven't even looked at it as k per nine is. I have to assume it's something.

Around one hundred and twenty eight. I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, it's some ridiculous out. But his biggest concern is does he get wild, does he stop throwing strikes, and does he start walking? Guys, that's the worry. It's not about swinging and missing, it's not about the arsenal. It's that and he's answered that to a pretty good degree this year. I think he has a chance to be a really really elite starting, strikeout starting pitcher. And I could see where you would want to sell on him,

But that's a reliever can and and I watched him yesterday too, you.

Know, as a starter by the way, yeah, Cape nine.

As a starter, right, I mean, I guess I look at I don't know. I look at the stuff, Like I said, I look at the frame, I look at all that stuff, and it just feels like this is a guy that is gonna be It's gonna go one of two ways. I think that they if they make him a starter, and that seems to be what they really want to do deep down in Atlanta, I think

Let me ask you this. Yesterday's start. Chris Sale obviously good under the numbers. He only got four total swing and misses in that game, no whiffs at all on his change up slider looked pretty good. Vila was up. Would you rather have Chris Sale or Spencer Strider in Dynasty?

Oh? Older? Well no?

But okay, but no, but is older.

But I mean, I'm also worrying that Sales maybe on the downside of his career. So I'm gonna say Stryder rest of seasonst what you were gonna ask me? Now? The rest of the season. That's an interesting conversation.

No, that's the next one.

Yeah, that's the rest of season. Sale is who I'd rather have because I believe I think the Red Sox are in it. I think the Red Sox have shown you that they're committed to winning, and I think the Red Sox and Chris Sale, I mean, look, Sale has earned that respect for me, and Strider is still an unknown. So I know that's probably an unpoppular opinion. Everybody loves

Here's one thing I would add with you as well, which works in your favor of this. And this is where you have to see the development is you can't. I really just don't believe in these two pitch pitchers. Patrick Corbyn is a perfect example of someone who first Hardock.

Was a two pitch pitcher you always hated for years, I remember.

But he had to redevelop. You've got to redevelop into throwing more. He's throwing essentially ninety five percent of his pitches are a fastball or slider. He's got a five percent change up right now. That has to change. You know, the same thing is going on with any of these guys. Hunter Green has been readjusting he's a sixty eight percent fastball guy because a fastball has been absolutely elite. The slider elite. But when you got walk problems like he does.

All right, let's move on here. The Orioles nine in a row. How about them? Apple's pretty outstanding.

Forty four now, that's pretty.

The entire American leagueese we'll talk about that in a little bit. Is five hundred or above, which is pretty miraculous considering how good those teams are. You think somebody would be beaten up on someone. Matt Olsen hit the go ahead home run for the Braves, go past the mess yesterday, Freddy Freeman homeward as well. And Jose Burrios there you go, Jekyl and Hyde. Thirteen strikeouts for Jose Burrios h So there you got who knows you know?

That if you're like me, you immediately pull the label off. The label has to go. The amount of labels I pull off of, like water bottles and stuff, it's just a tick. It has to go.

Are you one of those people? Were you just sitting there and you scratched the water bottle?

Not all the time, but like, if I'm kind of hanging out with a bottle. I'm probably gonna pull the label off at some point. That's very likely.

Fair enough, all right, injuries, Mike Trout was pulled with back spasms. Gross, this is not good news. Miami. Miami's Garrett Cooper has X rays turn up clean on the knee. So that's a good story. Trevor's story not so much good of a story though. He was hit on the hand, exited yesterday's game. Is Starling Marte out of the lineup again today, No surprise there. We'll see what happens. I want to talk about the Trevor story one though, because

I haven't seen anything this morning.

Okay. I did see though yesterday after the show that we did that Freddy Peralta is moving and progressing forward. He feels one hundred percent and that's very very important for the Milwaukee Brewers and very important for all the fantasy folks out there too. Julia Rodriguez, by the way,

Did you see his quote? Did you see his quote? Man, I wish I had it here right now, but he essentially me, I don't know if I'll be able to find it quick enough. But they asked him about that. There are a couple of quotes. Actually, one we can't say from aj Hinch what he thought about it, but he said, in the back of his mind, he was just thinking about how Ricky said that like when you go, when you go, you got to go and you don't

Well, I mean, you gotta think about something I mean he had time to think about a lot of players. By the time it gets from first to second from Miguel Carbre, he can think about the entire encyclopedia. This is a fun one from Paul. In our chat, Trevor story had one good week this year, and the rest of it has sucked. About this at all. I think that's a little hyperbolic, but the feeling and intention is right.

It's pretty close.

I mean, it's a little hyperbolic, but that's okay. But that's all right. We're gonna talk about other things today. It's time to talk about right and wrong. I did mine yesterday. The players that I was very much in on going into this year, the two that I was most right, the two that I was most wrong. So Welsh today, let's get Let's start off with the players who are most wrong about Yeah, and who are those? Oh guys, I.

Will tell you, well, I'll tell you I don't know about anybody else, and I'd be curious with you. Joe, I get so hype. So I went back and looked at my overall list ranks. I've been adjusting my position player ranks, and that kind of helped me a little bit. When you go and look at them, I get so focused on the wrong I can't even focus on the right. I just don't even process that. I'm just like, yeah,

I don't know, maybe i'm how many how many Miguel Cabrera have now.

Buckston has only one more than Miguel Cabrera. That's a better way to put that, So take that for what it is. On the right, I picked two pictures that I was really really aggressive on and I also think you can put in here the right end closers on paying on the high end like class. That was one that I had. I had probably higher than anybody, and I think that paid. But the two pictures I was really high on Zach Gallon coming at an incredibly cheap

He was the guy that we said, look, why are we going for big time early pitching When there's al Contra, when there's musk Grove, when there's mcla hand. There was a whole grouping and they were call on that same ADP. If you recall, you could get like two of those guys for you know, a really good cost as opposed to trying to go with it the grom Ra, Sures or any of these top guys that were out there. Big news breaking, by the way, the Blue Jays have

No, I'm not surprised. I think I said this a little while back, like fire their hitting coach, you know, I mean, what is going on with Baschet's fall, in Vlad's fall, and the struggles they had with like a team White struggle with sliders, and like, the hitting just seems completely off. There's some I don't know, I would blame any inconsistencies, inconsistencies on pitching or anything like that, but the hitting has been wildly weird, and I guess

Joe Girardi Joe Madden is also the first non Joe fired this year. No matter what mister Buster might want, I am still here. I'm going no place. But yeah, I mean that's that's uh. Look, man, expectations. This is the difference. You know. It's it's easy to be the young team chasing. You're the upstar Blue Jays, and all of a sudden this year you are the team that has expectations and Yankees have really just pulled away from

I think there's you know, little to little to none on the managers at the end of the day. For me, they do make that in call, but I you know, they're supposed to be in a raw ra position and they're supposed to be able to coach up the coaches and coach up the players as they can. And you know, that's where Larusa loses me because he just sits around on a golf cart and just kind of dallies around and stuff like that, when at least I saw him in spring training. So I don't know, I don't know

Yeah. Kind kind of absurd there. Corey Seeger has also been kind of absurd. Corey Seeger is a ninth Ranger to hit a home run in five straight games, which is kind of a fun stat. So that was a fun fact I threw in there. He has been on fire over the last six games, hitting three sixty four with a ten to forty I'm sorry, a ten to forty five slugging that's that's the slugging percentage. It's been

Well, I don't understand the Beabs. The Beabs Vilo dips, spin loss. I mean, it looked like he was the ultimate sell, you know, get out of this. He is an anomaly. But he is that thing that I've talked about in the past where it's like you look at the Kershaws or the Verlanders. You know, as you get older you're readjusting. But I think there's like twenty seven years old, twenty six or twenty seven, So something happened

Man.

This is just off the top of my head. I want to say he's firmly out of the top ten sps, and I don't really think he has the upside to get there, but I think he can sit in that like twelve to twenty range of starting pitchers. He's just you know, he's fine. He goes deeper into games that team is winning. He's I mean, he's a great pitcher. He's a great picture that defies the statistical odds. He defies what he's the savant Devier device, the fire, the fire, Yeah, there you got.

He deflours the savant. What what's going on?

What's happening here?

Cooper's back with a question because he has a head to head Points League and he was here. What's up, fellas? Don't know if you remember, but I asked about de Gram Trey the guy sent over a counter Trout and j Rod for Luis, Robert Sale, de Grom, Castillo, Wander. I got to keep Strider. So look, if you're trading, I'm trying to figure this out. So if you're trading Trout and Julio and you're getting Robert Sale to Grom, Castillo and Wander Franco, that's a lot. I mean, I mean,

Be some thing when I wasn't here, because he says, I don't either way.

In the Points League, you want the pitchers. I mean, this is easy, coop. That's an easy one in baseball history. Oh yeah, you said that today in baseball history. Nineteen ninety nine were of the great All Star moments ever. Boston's page of Martinez pitched himself into the record book, becoming the first strikeout, the first two strikeout. Excuse me,

He was just some of the best pitchers in history. Guys just cartoon roided up. I mean, it was the best it was like video games. It was like putting video game on rookie and just watching them go.

Yeah, I want what are the stats on Pedro? Since since Mike Mayers taking a day off? Here, maybe we can get it. Nineteen ninety nine Pedro Martinez stat line. That's why I want to see Wonky for me. I want to I want to flash it on the screen. You got it, you got it all like a flashing anyway, But go ahead.

Uh nineteen ninety nine, three hundred and thirteen strikeouts in two hundred and thirteen games. That was actually the most strikeouts he's ever had in a season. That is wild. He was He played thirty one innings where his win twenty three wins, a twenty three and four record. That is bonkers.

What was the caper nine rate? If check us out?

This is this is my favorite thing of all of it. Yeah, I'll give that to you. In with three hundred and thirteen strikeouts, guess how many walks he had.

I'm gonna say forty two.

Thirty seven thirty seven walks and it was a thirteen point two K per nine.

Wait, so what's that K to walk ratio? Then? If it was three hundred something to thirty something that I would love.

I know, I'm not. I'm on Baseball Reference. I'd love to see what the walk minus strikeout percentage would like it. Like I said, yeah, and a sub one whip and a sub one. Of course he has a suid one whip, but he only walked that many. Those are nasty, ridiculous numbers.

Unbelieve. Like I said, everyone's like, oh, this guy's dominating, or I'm like, no, there's ninety nine page Martinez and everybody else. As far as I'm going from what i'd in my whole life, it's recently.

Because we're talking about this, is that the most dominant like fantasy, like statistical fantasy from a starting picture.

From a starting picture, I think, fantasy wise, I mean from a picture period. I'm sure there'll be people who throw the Sandy Kofax moments, but the fantasy wasn't evolved that.

I don't know. But the modern baseball, modern.

Modern baseball fantasy wise, yeah, dude, I mean a ninety nine Paedro I think is the greatest.

Twenty three wins in twenty nine games started. He played thirty one, started twenty nine games, won twenty three of them. With three hundred strikeouts, a sub one whip, a thirteen plus K per nine. I find me a pitcher that has more ridiculous numbers.

In the FIP was one point three to nine, the K per nine was thirteen, and the walk to nine walks for nine.

Yeah, look at that's that's nuts.

What's the ratio? The kate to walk ratio, that's the one I want to know. In the meantime, here's little trivia for you before we get to the heroes and zeros. The youngest player to win an MVP award is who? Who is the youngest player to ever win MVP? Just drop the answer if you think you know what in the chat, I'm sure everyone's hitting the Google machine.

Chris Bryant.

No it is not Chris Bryant. I'll give you a hint. That was in the seventies. It was in the seventies. But a player that you should know with a cool name. Here you go, all right. Here are the stat heroes from last night. Garrett cole Levin k's and seven, Shane Bieber complete game one earned run, missed the shutout, Logan Webb six innings, no earn eight k's, Luis Garcia seven k's and six, Dylan Cis again nine k's five and two third, the guy's been money baby, Jose Burrio's unbelievable

That would not be in the I mean you said a fun name.

It's a fun name. Frank Robinson is not a fun name. That's about like a vanilla. It gets all right, Mike, I'm sorry, Mike, Mitch White. It is not like Mitch Connor, like when Mitch Canner. I love that. I love that, Mitch Connor villain, Cartman's Cartman's fan so fantastic h five inning, six earned Mike Clevenger four earned runs in five. Dallas Kaikeo boy oh boy, Dallas Kayle should have just stayed at home. I don't know why he came back and try.

To I can't share the text that Bogman had with We had a text chain about Dallas Kaykeele, and I can't share it.

And it's not gro Can you change the the word F two flowers and read it to us?

Uh No, I don't even think the word. I don't even think the changing of that's gonna help anything. So you can't have to pass.

I don't have to pass, Joe, Mike Clevenger. We are going to see great Mike Clevenger again.

You think not this season? I don't think so.

I don't.

I mean, he showed some electric stuff in spring. He showed a few games where it's popped off he's just he's inconsistent. And I don't think it's this year too, just too far, too close removed. I believe from his injury that if we're gonna see it, it's just not going to be this season because he's got to string it off. That's the thing. It's not about one game with him. You got to get like that five or six old school Mike Clevenger. And I just don't think he has that this year.

What about next year? You think he'd come to Z.

Like, yeah, I think it's possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you see signs of it.

All right, the answer is here. David Hanson has it. Look at him. David Hans has got it. Vita Blue Yabad yaba dah who won not only the cy Young but the MVP. He was twenty one years old. Not bad, not bad there, pretty good for Vida Blue. All right, let's get to the next grouping here the loser hitters. Pete Alonzo over three three ks, Derek Hall over four to three, Ryan Mountcastle five with three. Now we know why Mayor's not here today. Now we have oh, okay, okay, there,

I mean that deserves like maybe a ten ten zoos.

You should get like ten for that one. But so the board is the board board is the same as yesterday's board. So hopefully today is a better night for that. Let's get to the betting props bettingpros dot com and let's talk BETMGM, the king of sports books. You can bet ten dollars a win two hundred whenever you use the promo code leading off at bet mgm. Download the app, go to betmgm dot com, bet responsibly and bet with the promo code leading off. It's one word leading off.

I did actually bet MGM, you got it sports books four and a half. Get out of here with that stuff. I mean he had one one strikeout game. I'm taking that. That's probably the number one bet of the day. M. You know, lockdown McClanahan is there. Though it's at seven and a half against it's against Boston. You can argue that you know this might be the game. He doesn't do it. But my whole stick is just always play McClanahan and you're gonna come out on top of the

Right tonight over on DK looking at the DFS slate. Look, mcclanahan's gonna be very chalk. He's expensive, he's ten k. You could save four hundred bucks to go to Musgrove in Colorado and tournaments and be very opo and pair that with Lucas Giolito or John Gray, who John Gray's been on a nice run lately in case the last couple of stars, so or you could put Gielito and Gray together and then just pay up for offense. That's my approach, And I think just mcclan is gonna be

Oh, I'll do the Mayor bit, I'll do the BVP highest bat the other day. Homers Jean Carlos Stanton On Mike Minor has four career homers in twenty three at bats with over three hundred batting average. And I will take Stanton to just try to kick start something.

Kick Andrew bringing a good stat here. Trot has a fifty k rate in July? Is that true? Is that true? My trout? I don't know, man, I don't know. It's uh the Angels, man, nothing goes right for the Angels. I feel like joeyoa Tani is the only thing they can do right. And even that seems wrong because.

You see the record too. It's some insane I think it was like ten and thirty or something. Since Madden has been gone, the Angels have gone. It has just been.

Joe Madden was not the problem. The roster construction has been the problem for there for years, and the lack of talent coming through that organization has been a problem for years, especially in the pitching side. I mean, just terrible but yeah, Andrews got it right here. Eighteen k's and thirty six at bats. Oh, baby, that ain't good. And to Mawa back injury. Oh. I don't want to leave on a sour note, so let us instead. Let's hope that Aaron Judge hits three home runs today and