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Genius and vocal Minority. And welcome to another edition other Fantasy Freestyle right here on the award winning Fantasy Sports Radio Network, Episode three hundred and eighty two of the Fantasy Freestyle, the three hundred and eighties second convening of the Stats Overbeat Cipher. We got a good show for you today as always. Now listen, a lot of new people here with the Fantasy Freestyle. I can feel it. I can feel the energy ramping up for football season.
We got a lot more people in the mentions, in the timelines and the phone calls. People are preparing their drafts. I just finished the draft. It is going on and people are starting to think about how to start betting the football season. We are going to do that as usual, we go division by division. We're gonna be in the NFC East today. There were some news out of the nf FC East earlier today, Ezekiel Elliott talking about, Hey Levan Bell could do it, Hey Melvin Gordon can do it.
I want a new contract to We'll talk about how that might impact will you draft in the top four of fantasy football this year? It's an actually an interesting question. I got my man over here, Jason Dehies, who's a big friend of the Stats Overbeat Cipher. If you are real deal Stats Overbeat you have seen him on the
show before, talk an NBA talking Nick's hatred. For the most part, what we're gonna do is, I think now the death has settled for a little bit, you know, I thought that maybe two weeks ago, and then you know, Paul George also moves, and then Russell Westbrook also moves. So we're gonna catch up and talk about how to maybe make some cash. What we look forward to betting the NBA sound good with you, absolutely, So we're gonna
do that. We're gonna talk about the NBA player movement, how that relates to some of those future odds, things of that nature. We're gonna talk n f C East diamonds and fool gazes, how to bet the NFC East, And then of course we put the fun and functional sports content with the stats over beat cipher. We are bringing back uh something Danny Otto loves from down there in the pant uh fantasy pit of misery. We're gonna bring back some rapping athletes. We're gonna see who we
like better. We got some smoke for the King. We'll talk about that. And we have a pole question up as well. If you want to follow me, you can at Spitting Speeds at F and T s Y Radio, at F and T s Y Sports And then here's my question. Okay, do you like this rash of uh NFL players, NBA players, even to a certain extent, Major League Baseball players really taking more control of their narrative
of their players situations. We see Levion Bell, Yeah, I'll hold out Antonio Brown, you know, Scorched Earth's manipulating his contract. It actually works for him, right. We saw Melvin Gordon demand a hold you know, say he might hold out news of Ezekiel Elliott. This is happening in the NBA as well, Jason. We see this with Anthony Davis literally wearing That's All Folks shirts in his last week there in New Orleans. You know, Rich Paul, Clutch Sports, all
that good stuff. We see this now with you know, uh, Chris Paul and James Harden. We see this with Russell Westbrook. The dominoes continue to fall as people are now manipulating their situation more and more in professional sports. The poll question is do you like that? You know? Do you like that as a fan? Do you like that? Now?
You know? These these ideas of tampering and free agency are almost, you know, kind of of an old era, Jason, because it's not really about like, oh, I'm worried that this team is gonna talk to me before I can sign a contract, right, It's really about like one of my best friends over a late night you know, kind of drink, being like, Yo, wouldn't it be cool if we could sync up our contracts and go to, oh, I don't know, some city we'd like to play for with,
oh I don't know, some coach that we know is respected with oh I don't know, some team that also has a good, friendly salary cap so we can bring our other friend who's not as good if a player has us. But if we can break the gang together, sure that could be Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant and DeAndre Jordan's. That could be Lebron James and what I think is gonna be Anthony Davison, you know, probably like Carmelo Anthony as well. Right, Um, is this cool in your opinion? Jason?
Is this okay? Okay, there you go. That's the kind of stuff we're gonna bring here on the Fantasy Freestyle. Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to collect our thoughts. Right. You have an opportunity to in the poll as well. Yes, do you like this? No? Is it a very slippery slope of where it's going? Or do you think it not really matters because this is only a move that is reserved for the true elite of the elite. Yeah.
I can work for Levan Bell when he says the average of the top five at the position is actually a bad deal for him, and he's telling the truth. Mathematically, he is one of only two running backs in the world that could say that is Melvin Gordon. One of those two is Ezekiel Elliott, one of those two, I'm not sure, but we'll talk about how it relates to all sports. We got my boy Jehove right here, Stat's over beat Cipher friend of course, the spitting statistician, and
you on the Fantasy Freestyle. Come on back, we'll talk NBA player movement vone the poll. You can holler at your boy if you want to come on dilly dilly at all. Hey, Thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune and app and just search for Fantasy Sports to your network and you could listen
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real deal Stats, over Beats Cipher. We like grew up together, okay, and I thought there would be no one better um to talk NBA player movement than you. Jason Word on the street. Is that you know how Nick Nurse used to coach in like England, that Nick Nurse coached a man that then coached you. In England you were like six worker playing all five spots and stu a championship. But that's okay. You know about this player movement and
that's what we're gonna get into. Big shout out to the status over Beat Cipher, real deal, Status over Beats Cipher members in here. Jilly Dilly, Dilly Dilley to you, Mendel Bruce, Francisco Gee strong style, Hey, strong style. How do you like that new intercontinental champion out there? Mendel Bruce in the building as well. D Moneo complaining that it's like a hundred and one degrees out there in
San Diego, that's where the unicorn is from. I was out there last week playing a little bit of golf out there, Jay. I played golf on like this naval base course, Okay. I literally sliced the ball. You know, there's like a cart path and stuff. I sliced the ball over like a Navy plane runaway, okay, and then it went into like some grass. I was like, well,
do I go over there and pick it up. It's like a C one thirty trying to take off, literally a plane that is so big it carries tanks and ships, and it was like, getting ready to take off, I slice one like two yards right right. I decided to leave it alone. But big shout out to the stats over beat cipher. Um, we're gonna get into right now. There are questions, by the way, Jason, of people that you think maybe are really really undervalue this year from
a fantasy context. I wanted to take the film people. Maybe rookie second year guys you expect to take that big time step up, maybe given our moves, but I want to start. I want to start with all the moves that have happened. Okay, it seems like also when I was in California, all right, there was like the most powerful earthquakes over the last twenty and twenty five years. I'm gonna name one earthquake Kauai, and I'm gonna name
the other earthquake Paul, because that's pretty much what happened. Right. We knew this Anthony Davis stuff was gonna go on. When then it was like who's gonna be the third man? You know? It turns out it. Guess it's Boogie Cousins, I guess, but that's that piling with a lot of veterans, you know, Lebron's his super friends and that sort of thing. But then in l A on the other side, we
knew Kauai was in play for the Clippers. But then he turns around and it becomes clear that he wanted to bring his own, like his own super friends together, maybe like the more socially awkward super friends, maybe the mere super Friends, maybe the more um introverted personality super friends. Right, he was gonna get Kevin Durandy, wanted k D to play with him. Turns out Paul George is the man.
And here's my thing for you, Jason, when I think of now not only what the Clippers can do offensively, but defensively, Jason, this idea of Kawhi Leonard two way player, Paul George two way player, Patrick Beverly defriending the top of whoever they're playing against. I kind of think, Jason, that the Clippers are deserving NBA Finals favorites right now out of the West. Do you think the Lakers have become the odds on favorite in these Is it the Clippers or do you like one of these other moves
of the Western Conference? Where is the balance of power in the West right now? The issue is that you have to understand how other players play, how they meshed together. All right, that hasn't happened for the Clippers, but it doesn't need to. Why do you say it doesn't need to doesn't need to happen for any team? Or like what you see what co I did in one year
in Toronto. So you have that type of player who seems to be okay with almost any other player and a Clippers team that basically has a foundation that's already set, right. I like that addition. And you also add Paul George you popping you know, a spot up shooter. Yeah, that
works in pretty much every situation. Okay, So you're saying they are more versatile, they are more nimble, they have they can play more amorphous roles, which is sort of what's happening in the NBA right now right Yeah, and also the curve, it's gonna they're learning curve is going to be quicker, okay, as opposed to the purple and gold. You're saying, what and is that like, tell me what you think that this has to be. I hear that
they're gonna put Lebron at point. Even you know this idea of what just pick and roll with a D, just lob it up to whatever it's cousins or a D. That's that's what you think is harder to master. Um, it's gonna be harder to master. And there's not a concept there. Okay, I see where's the Clippers. They have a system. They have a system. Okay, so wait, here's the here's my thing because the other in my opinion, in big old domino to fall here. Right. First, we
we know about the l a balance of power. We know about those earthquakes that happened. I'm not being disrespectful. I was out there. Um. The other kind of domino that then happened was people were not expecting Paul George to leave Oklahoma City, right And in essence, what Oklahoma City was doing was turning around after the big old draft hall that they got. They turned around and they tell Russell Westbrook in essence figuratively, we don't give a
damn about the next four years. We don't care about like the rest of your prime. In essence, we are kicking the can down the road. So Russ is like, I, then do something with me, right, And we didn't think it was going to wind up being Houston. I thought we heard Miami with Jimmy Butler, we heard some other ideas. It turns out being Houston. You said you have to think about how people play together. Now I know that Harden and Westbrook have played together in Oklahoma City. You're
smiling right because you know where this is coming. I'm not exaggerating, Jason. I think these are two of the more ball dominant players that maybe have ever lived on planet Earth. I'm not kidding, right. Think about this in terms of like usage rate, right, Like listen, Harden, it works, it works, Westbrook, It's sort of works, right, But how will you talk about the way they metch the way they played together. How will this work? I really don't know.
You're as good if you're in a Westbrook team. You're as good as the Westbrook team can take you the way he plays, right, But you don't think that Harden. Now, all of a sudden, you were talking about Paul George. The impact on Paul George as a shooter. Part of Paul George looking like a better shooter is that he had Russell Westbrook, Uh, you know, opening space for him on some level drives and kicks. Won't that happen on some level with James Harden? Will won't Harden get some
better shots? Could Harden average? I don't know, thirty eight for a season. It's gonna be a D'Antoni um experiment. I actually read about something today. D'Antoni and Harden are uh early in the clock players. Westbrook is at an average. I think it's towards the end of the so so so who is the isn't the Westbrook is the primary
ball handler for that team? I think you have to recons he can't shoot, has to be right, So what he's gonna be still trying to do his thing for twenty seconds and then just get bailed out in the last five by hard And every time I will say, Dan, your your your guess is as good as mine. But that's the only option they have, all right, So let me let me there's a few other teams I want to discuss because when I look at this, when I look at these odds, right, I see Los Angeles, I
see Los Angeles, I see Houston. Am I crazy? Jason? Or is for the first time ever? Are people just sleeping on the Golden State Warriors. Here's what I Jason. The Golden State Warriors are fifteen to one to win the NBA Championship. Literally, for the last what four years, the Golden State Warriors have been minus money favorites against
the entire rest of the NBA. You're gonna tell me, Okay, I understand Kevin Durant is gone, right, you without Kevin Durant, Okay, they are this team that won seventy games and all this stuff. I understand. Clay Thompson's not there. You think even without Clay Thompson and maybe with D'Angelo Russell, they're not good enough to like be a playoff team until March when Clay Thompson comes back, and then you have the same team that won seventy three games. It's not
like D'Angelo Russell can score. Like, why are people hating on the Warriors? They're not one of the still the top five six teams in the West. They're not better than the Denver Nuggets still right now? No, they're not. I don't think so. You lose three defenders to world. Listen, they got Willie Couli Stein I think it's a very interesting signing, signing who may fit them a little bit better.
But I hear what you're saying, the defensive impact. I started with the defensive impact on the Clippers right with that threesome and how they will be able to defend. I think that is a very good point, Jason. I think the scoring will still be there, the name recognition
is still there. But you're right there, like man, I think I even saw on social media like a gift or something of like Draymond Green, and it was like, imagine Draymond Green out there with like you know, D'Angelo Russell and Steph Curry at the top of the floor playing defense, you know, and but like looking and they was like, where's Ai, where's Clay? You know? So that could be the impact. But are you telling me you don't think the Warriors are still a playoff team? Come on, right,
and then Clay Thompson will be there. These other teams moved up, Jazz are still together, made a couple of movies. I like them with the Mike Nuggets might get a healthy quarterback, sure, okay, and the center is coming back all right? So I hear that. So you got to l A teams. You got a Houston team, you're talking about Portland, you're talking about Denver. Golden State is still there. There's some up and coming teams as well. We'll talk about this a little bit more, and then we will
turn our attention to the NFC East. I know he's got some thoughts on who the number one overall running backs should be. We'll talk about that. We'll put the fun and functional support content with the stats over beat Cipher as well. Hollow at your boy vaulting the pole. We're getting it in. It is a summertime Monday. You're on Fantasy Freestyle Episode three. D Webb was wrong, Episode three eight three. We've done this even more than Dailly Dilly,
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coming to town. I'm thinking that's what I'm gonna use my free bet multiply about like the forty seven points they're gonna win by in Week two of the college football season. But listen, one of the things we gotta clean up here, um is our talking about the basketball season. I got my man Jehove here, a friend of the stats over beat Cipher. We were talking about all these big dogs in the Western Conference in the East. Real quick before we go back over there for some surprized
teams in the East. Listen, is it a two horse race? Is it really Milwaukee and Philadelphia? And you know, I mean, I know Philly they lost some guys they lost to me Butler. They get out Horford, though, do you see anybody breaking through or is it kind of Philadelphia and is it Milwaukee out there in the East? Yeah, I do. I think maybe the third team would be It's interesting how Kemba into the Boston. Would he even be better there than and Kyrie was? Yeah, less ball dominant, He's
ball down, but way less than Kyrie. I think you optimize round a little bit, round Tatum, even Hayward one more year healthier, you know that sort of thing. So Boston is in there as well. But in the break, we were talking about the New Orleans Felicans. Listen, we know about Zion, we know about you know, Drew Holiday, and we're gonna maybe talk a little bit about you know, Drew Holiday's mom in a little bit. She's got some
advice we may get into. Um, we know about you know, all of the guys they acquired really right, you know Alonzo and you know Ingram. They go out and you know sign some guys JJ Reddick among them have a decent draft. Is New Orleans like competing for a eight seed this year? They one year away? What do you expect that as Zion? Is he really like this franchise altering piece like so many people expect. I think he I think he can be. The whole issue is his conditioning.
What I read about, Um, that's fun. The NBA takes care of that, I think, right really, Um, I think they'll I think he'll be fine there all. I'm a big Lonzo Ball fan. Alonzo Ball with a Zion Williamson together, I think can be very special, especially with wing guys right heart and Ingram. You can put the ball in
the basket. I like the Pelicans, maybe not this year, in the next three years, absolutely really Okay, So when Lebron rides into the sunset, when Anthony Davis is obviously hurt for thirty games and that sort of thing keeps it moving or something like that, I'm not a better but I bet when that trade happened, the Pelicans would finish better than the Lakers. Really well, that's that's an absolutely crazy take. But we shall see, we shall see.
I mean, listen, Lebron is not getting any younger, Anthony Davis doesn't really finish season, so I understand, But listen, We'll see what happens in year one of that Zion experiment. Let's turn our attention a little bit to football. Jason. Know we're talking a little bit about the NFC East. And here's what I do, Jason, for people who don't know, all right, I give people in fantasy I give him for the teams in the NFC East, I give you
a I'm in that. I give you a full gazzy that's a player to forget about, you know, for this fantasy football season. And then I give you kind of leans on division totals, I mean division players who's gonna win the division. And I give you the season under over that I like. And listen, I've been doing this. You asked me. This is now, by the way, for
the Status Over beats Cipher the eighties something episode. This is going into the fourth football season that we have been doing this together here on the Fantasy Sports Network. I gave people check the tape, Jason. I gave people this time two years ago, the Philadelphia Eagles would win the Super Bowl. That was like to one on this air. I was like, I really like Philadelphia. In two thousand and seventeen, before the baseball season, I they weren't even
the favorites to win their division. And I said the Houston Nastros would win the World Series. Okay, so what we do is we give people early winners in the fifteen to one range. Okay, that you can already lay. I've already told you guys in the a f C, I am on the Charges, I am on the Colts this year in the nf see, I've told you about the Green Bay Packers with Aaron Rodgers in fu mode. I've told you about people are sleeping on the Atlanta Falcons.
In my opinion, they have thirteen games indoors this year, Jason, thirteen of their sixteen games are indoors. That's good from Maddie Ryan and that uh, you know that that offense that got away from Steve Arcasian. Let's say, but let's get it into the NFC East, all right. Obviously we know where your loyalties lie here. This guy is not a J E. T S j JS Jets fans, so we don't need the damnit Dolls strong style, but is a fan of that team across, you know, on the
other side of MetLife. Who by the way, you know it was kind of a laughing stock for a little while. You're not hanging your opinion on the idea that Daniel Jones is athletic. But I digress. Let's let's start with some of these other teams. I got diamonds and fool gazzes for you. For the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm a fan of Miles Sanders people. Okay, I think Miles Sanders can be in that fourth tier of running back. I think they can be a flex play for you. Here's the thing.
Jordan Howard um who they acquired. Remember I said Philly was gonna be getting a running back all year long, all offseason. I was like, they're gonna get a running back. Maybe it's Shady McCoy, maybe it's Jordan Howard. It turned out to be Jordan Howard. They run the same system in Philly that they do in Chicago. All Right, Jordan Howard is gonna be a plot. Are gonna be an early down guy. They want to develop as many weapons as possible Philadelphia. They are a fantasy heard between Jeffrey
aghilor they get to Shawn Jackson. You know about Earth. They have Goddard as well. They want to have weapons in the passing game. This profile is to be Miles Sanders. In my opinion, Jason, not Jordan Howard, especially in PPR leagues things of that nature. I don't expect Jordan Howard to be much of anything. Go with the rookie Miles Sanders. I think he will lead this committee in Philadelphia this year.
When I talk about a fool gazzy, someone to forget about, it is all relative, Jason, Okay, I am not trying to say that this player is bad. I'm not trying to say Listen, I have shares of this player. This player helped me win fantasy championships last year. But my fool gazzy for the Philadelphia Eagles is going to be Zach. It hurts one, I p all right, And the reason why is because he is going to us from last year. Last year he set an NFL record for tight ends
with a hundred and sixteen catches. You cannot expect him to repeat that. Okay, you can't expect him to repeat that when we have other weapons involved. Now, Okay, they bring into Seawan Jackson, we talk about Miles Sanders. They are talking up the second year the Titan Dallas Goddard. I think zach Ertz is going to be still Carson Wentz, his best friend. I think he is the you know,
second or third best tight end. The only problem is he is not going to be worth the value that you are going to have to draft him in your fantasy league. Someone is going to take zach Ertz in like the third round this year, and I don't believe he's worth that kind of value. I believe your tight ends in your second tier, your Hunter Henry's or O. J. Howard's, your Evan Ingram's, um you're Jared Cooks of the world.
I believe that is going to approximate the same thing unless you're in one of these leagues whereas settings give you extra points for the tight ends, and that's scenario ario. I'm okay with getting Kelsey early. I'm okay with getting Art's early, Okay that sort of thing. But for me, Miles Sanders is the guy. And because it is such a fantasy herd, I am down on zach Ertz this year.
I want to tell you something very very interesting, though, Jason about the Philadelphia Eagles, and you should remember this when you're thinking about division matchups and stuff like that. The Eagles are the only team in the NFL this year that have a stretch where they play back to back to back road games where they have three road games on a row, three real de deal home games, I mean road games in a row. Other teams have
it like with a buy in between. Other teams have it if you count, like the London game and stuff like that, or a mini by with like Thursday night going into Monday. The Eagles are the only team Week six there at Minnesota, Week seven at Dallas, Week eight at Buffalo. Now you would think Buffalo is a game that they should be able to win on their schedule
when you're just looking at opponents. But when I tell you it'll be week eight, whether starting to turn in Buffalo third game in a rub on the road after two NFC contenders, that could be a scheduled loss for the Philadelphia Eagles as well. The Philadelphia Eagles they'll lead this division. Their win total is nine and a half. I would lean a little bit over. But the reason I wouldn't take the over as a bet is because I still do not know about Carson Wentz. His health. Okay,
he got that back injury. It could be like a lot of people think he's gonna be alright for Week one, but at the same time, we have seen these things. Linger I am not positive. I'm a little bit off the Eagles. As I told you, I was the year early on them in the right spot. Okay, but you gotta be one year early on the next team, and I don't think that's the Philadelphia the Eagles. Let me give you the New York Giants right here, because oh, I'm gonna have to start with the Giants, and we'll
get Jason's reaction to it. Let me tell it to him right in his face, and then when we come back on the other side of the break, we can get some reaction. And we could also put the fun in functional sports content. Okay, my Well, first of all, say, kran Barkley is my number one overall player in fantasy Okay, he just is, especially after the Zegellia talking contracts stuff. Okay, Mike Diamond and the rough for the New York Giants
is Evan Ingram. For me, Evan Ingram is a function of the rest of the options and the reckless of the targets that the quarterback has. In year one, he bucked the trend of doing badly for a rookie tight end. He was able to. But why because that season Odell Beckham went down, Sterling Shepherd went down. Brandon Marshall, who was there, went down, like Roger Lewis was filled in for two weeks and he went down. That was a function of the options that were there last year when
a lot of people were high on him. Odell was there. Oh, by the way, this new guy named say Quan was there as well, and he did not perform as well as his a d P this year with Odell Beckham gone okay, The potential change in quarterback mid season where a nude quarterback would want the security blanket of the tight end okay. And the fact that honestly, golden tape doesn't motivate me, Sterling Shepherd doesn't motivate me. I think Evan Ingram is back in that situation where he could
compete for the team lead in t argets. I think that's good enough to be tight end five or six in fantasy this year of all the dearth of weapons, even when Eli Manning in his noodle arm, I think Evan Ingram is in fact someone you could like, who is my fool Gazey for the New York Giants and Jason, what do you think is the right play? The season win total for the Giants is right now. At six, we'll find out from a Giants fan if he actually wants to bet that they will win more than six
games this year. I know this man's money. He doesn't throw it around lightly. I know what that means. He's got to say. Let's check it back on the other side of the break, it's the Fantasy Freestyle with the spitting Statistician, Stable Genius and vocal minority. Come on back we talk NFC's diamonds and fool gazes. You heard hey. Thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, download the tune in app and just search for Fantasy Sports
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the Status Open Beats Cipher. Here Fantasy Freestyle with the Real Deal Status of Beats Cipher listen, Mendel Bruce out here, we're looking at diamonds and fugas strong style, agreeing with me about Sterling Shepherd. See that's the thing. But a lot of people here now Jason, are talking about Golden Tate. Mendel Bruce is saying Tate will outperform Shepherd. Here's the thing. I'm a little bit down on tape, guys, I gotta tell you why. Here's the reason why. Okay, Golden Tate.
Golden Tate is someone. And here's one of my my new stats that I'm really into, Jason. It's called a dot, which is the average depth of target. Okay, And so that's the thing. Then you'll know these guys are like, oh, this guy stretches the field. This guy's a deep threat. Right And you know, right now in the NFL, you see a lot of guys the bubble screens, the short routes, that sort of thing. One of the stats that you're gonna hear me talking about because listen stats over be Cipher.
You know, stay with me. I do not only give you a fish, I teach you how to fish. Okay, and a dot is we're gonna be talking about a lot this football season. Okay, Golden Tate has a very very low a dot. Okay. In Detroit, there are a lot of those quick slants, a lot of those bubble screens. Now here's the difference. When he doesn't Detroit, Jason, he has Kenny Golladay to stretch the field. When he's in Detroit.
He has Marvin Jones to stretch the field. When he's in Detroit, he has Matthew Stafford as a quarterback who likes to be a gun slinger. That was more the design of the offense, Jason. Now in New York, he's got nood alarm Eli Manning at quarterback. Here's the other part, Jason. If you're a defensive coordinator playing against the Giants, I'm putting everyone in the box to defense se Kwon Barkley, right, I'm putting eight nine. They say eight men in the
boxes a lot. I'm putting nine, ten, eleven. I'm putting all fifty three men in the box against Kuon Barkley in that environment with Golden Tate and the slot right there with people right ethan there, I don't know that Golden Tate is uh as someone who works with what they're going to be seeing defensively, I think you need you need an hotel Beckam to stretch the field is what you need. That's why Golden Tate is a little bit of a fughayze for me. What do you think
about this Giants offense? Does that resonate with you? Does that make sense? You talk about in basketball, how they're used in football is the same thing. I just think we're gonna be seeing a lot of people up on the line of scrimmage against these Giants, and who is that guy who's going to scare you over the top? Yeah yeah, yeah, right, So it's we gotta get that Mike on is you know, here we go. So it's
gonna be Shepherd. You like Shepherd. I like Shepherd. I like Shepherd over tight for the short slants and that's what's gonna happen. All right, We'll chall see um. Like I said, though, um, the wind total for these Giants are six? Are six? As I look at their schedule, the one positive thing I will say about the Giants, Okay, I think their scheduled smiles upon them. Check this out. They have the shortest travel schedule in the entire NFL. Okay, no one, no one, travels fewer miles than the New
York Giants. This is augmented by the fact that in like early November, they have a quote unquote road game against the New York Jets, which does not involve much crap travel. And I understand that, but what are you talking about? We if I put it gunto your head here, six wins over under that one? Okay, you think that's a good number. I also think that it is an interesting number. My problem would be, though, if they do with in fact make the turns to Daniel Jones, They're
going to how many starts do you think Daniel Jones gets? Well, what if I tell you that, um, their bye week, right? Um? The bye week is like, well for Washington it's week ten. Um, you know the bye week is a little bit earlier on in the season. You think they make that move
to Daniel Jones. I think ELI is not getting hurt, right, so it's just gonna be how bad the record is, right, So once they get out of once they get out of contention, yeah, once they got a contention week nine, like two and seven something like that, that's where you have to do that, right, they have to pull the plug on it. You have to realize that we're moving over And so here's my thing that's also could be another thing with all of these giant weapons we talk
about Sterling Shepherd or Golden Tate. I'm talking now to Mendel Bruce and everybody else that's out there with any of these teams that that have a threat of changing quarterbacks in the season. Okay, what's gonna happen? Also here, remember this that new kid that's coming in. They're coming in. We talked about it. What week ten, Week eleven, week twelve. That is exactly when you need your wide receiver three to pop off for your playoff push, right, So don't
give me that. I feel the same way about these other teams. The Washington football team, the Denver Broncos. Okay, Miami, Okay, when they're going to make the move to Josh Rosen, at some point they have to find out about them. They're gonna make the move to Drew Lock. They're gonna make the move. I even think in Cincinnati it's gonna go real bad. And in thee Balton is gonna get pulled.
You have to consider the team they play for the offense, they will be in the kind of situation they will be in if they are in contention or not, because these are the players you are going to need in weeks ten, eleven, twelve, and then of course in the fantasy playoffs when some teams that are at our contention are just letting the kids play. So that is something you absolutely have to say. Gregory Cans theo here says unfortunately,
says Bark, he hurts a hamstring book it. I don't know if I agree with that, and God willing for us New Yorker fans out here, that's not the case if that happens. Wayne Gallman is your handcuff for all those who want to know, we got time we should do um. You know what, though, Let's let's do this. Danny. I know, Danny, you went me down there in the pit of misery. My brother man, I know you are. Here's what we're gonna do. Our football talk, our basketball talk.
One a little bit long, but now everybody should know. We are doing two episodes of freestyle in a week, Okay, Monday and Thursday. So what we'll do is we did Giants, we did Eagles today, we'll do Washington Football Team, will do the Dallas Cowboys, on Thursday, we'll see if this Ezekiel Elliott situation moves a little bit. He claimed that he wants another contract just like Melvin Gordon. I actually think that would change for me where he Zeke Elliott
goes from me. Zeke Elliott wasn't the top four. I think it is a big four obviously, se Kwan. I in fact have Zeke Elliott, Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey round out the top four. If this news with you know, Zeke becomes a little bit dicey. Similar to how with Melvin Gordon, I bumped them down a little bit, you would have to bump ze Gellia down and that would mean in my opinion, Levy on Bell would go into there, into the top four. But I digress. One of the
things Danny we said we are going to do. I want to give the people a little bit of an update because we are going to do the staff league here again, the Fantasy Pit of Misery Football League, and I am reserving one spot for stats over beat Cipher member. Okay, so if you follow the show, Mendel Bruce, you know Jerty Strong Style Jilly Dilley out there, and you want to compete against us. You have a chance. I'll let you know about if you want, let me know, hit
me up on Twitter at spitting speeds. But Danny, what are the things we were going to do? Is we said we had the return of rapping athletes. And Jason knows about this. Jason knows my rapping career all the way back since like high school all right, knows about the spitting statistician in earnest Um. What we do is we play some rapping athletes from time to time. And Damian Lillard obviously is you know, somebody we've heard from before and stuff. But Danny, I played something for you earlier.
It's like we have another young kid going after Damily and Lillard, Right, Danny, we do. It's Marvin Bagley, the third who I believe is on the King's right this last year as a rookie. He's coming in for the crown. Let's see what he has to say. Let's play that, Danny. That's the second one, uh, second half of this. Let's play what he said going after Damian Lillard. See what's up? Or you drop suit track scene? Somebody doesn't cast him up. Let me go ahead, purp. There it is Strong Style
loving it. Look, I've been the cold uttering assess it. That's what I don't. Just put the ball in the bad nigga. Who you've been asking? I said, don't name A couple of weeks ago. You've been in the cast and now you're trying to rise up. I said, you affecting the passage. I finished, turned the sames down. Change that change whatever you want, nigga, not cling you? Who got food ces? Whatever that mean? You should have did one of them niggas? Was Jack seen then? Not in
rocking with the funk. That's what's over. I'm finish strong with Stay Far'm gonna push you wad controller. I run the game like stay stay going that pass the controller. I'm on the track, and did you black the motive? Little niggas? Okay, instrumental interesting, interesting, Danny, let's cue up the response. Okay, Strong Style saying yeah, it's Sacramento Kings. Hold on a second, Daniel, hold on a second. Now
we gotta find out. First of all, yes, Strong Style getting Austin Ekeler would be a good move because of the Melvin Gordon thing. We talked about that a little bit. Um Sacramento Kings, big man. Marvin Bagley the third representing Duke Jason. What do you think he brought that smoke? You like it? I want to know why? But I like it? Well, I think he's just no. Going after Damian Lillard was the way to get burned here, you know, the rappid to goal after, the rapping athletes to go after.
And he's been in I've heard other stuff from Marvin Bagley when he was in Duke, So you know he's out there trying to take the trim. Yeah, a little young, little young for it. Yeah, I see. Okay, so you gotta respect the game, is what you're saying. A pretty cool dude. It's a process, not only I'm not only in building a championship contender, but in being a championship rapper. There is a process. Okay, fair enough, So I agree with this, thinking that maybe just Marvin Bagley isn't ready.
I do. You're right though. The money though, is out here saying low key he got bars though, what do you think and saying dame dollar chump change Derek Scott said out there, So right, it's not bad, not bad, Okay, all right, So let's see this is dame dollars response, Danny, were ready for this? All right, here we go. Let's see. Let's see what Damian is something you gotta deal with him, so we'll say had elaborated, fabricated. I ain't gonna equal
up to this real ship. More musical be the things we do for the glints and the clamorous following back and like picks from your camera. It's about the pass because you're still lit a pamper breath and I've never seen floydcear with but just so, this is the one and only time we're picking up the phone type to keep receipts until you left the love. I was raised to always keep the family feud. That's home on the
set up. I gotta teach you how to set the tone where I'm from, big rank, take a little bank. I'm a couple of hundred meal. That's a few day. Don't respect it. It's not an issue to check it. Never really competed, but your boys getting practice. I can tell this wasn't really what you wanted though, should have DM me again what you want to know? Same line. I put it out for the public. Asked about my third album before the second was a fan If he
wants for Stone, I may look at disrespected. You was sacking up from vocaland my many for you getting hackted praying with again, you're gonna get your past in your mouth the road to check that over through yo checking. Look, I'm really soiled, like I said, so why are you come from me? I got respecting both careers moving comfortably. You ain't established in the leaf for one, you got potential, but this wrapping, it's a freeze at lunch. It's easy.
You were class and go and enjoy the circus. Me deep in the game and you're barely scratching the surface, my car dressing black. We're never making the purchase high king come to battle knowing the kingdom, work the snicking. Okay, alright, alright Danny, that sounds all right now listen. I think he takes a second to get rolling there a little bit, but then he kind of puts it on him. Uh we got people, Derek Scott over there, strong style of being like he dropped the mic on them. What do
you think? What do you think? Damn dollar response a grown man talking to uh yeah, not yet talking about listen, I got this money, I got this status, like am trying to use me to come for the throne. I agree with you, Danny, my man, the only one who is technically still in and you are signed to a record label yourself. Danny, why don't you tell me what do you like better? Here? Bro? I think I like Lillard better? You like Little better? Right? The second one?
Dame Dollar, give me some analysis, brother man? Why is that? I just it just seemed more relaxed, like he Wasn't you like that flow? But it was just it was relaxing in the sense of more confidence in the I don't need to yell to make my across like I feel that. I feel that, you know, the spin stat physician needs to take advice from Dame Dollar in this. By the way, guys, I'm over here on some laryngitis that work at me to death. People were talking about this.
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your way to becoming the next Daily Rhodo millionaire. Not even their power shots, you know, but they're like slices, the ones that they put a lot of spin on. You have no idea how much that ball moves. Okay, Like you could be sitting there and when they think one of those slices that has action on it, you'll just straight it'll it'll wind up twenty ft away from
you because of the movement on it, you know. Um And with those serves, it's almost like Joe, it's almost like, um, a shootout in soccer have the goalie has to kind of guess on one level as you gonna go left or right. It almost seems like when you're at the tennis and returning served, you gotta guess on some level like are you gonna go in the middle to the head because like you said, it's coming so fast it's absolutely ridiculous. You don't really see it until you're up close.
Kind Of the same with any sport. Joe. Once, I was on the NFL sidelines and I had no idea how bit like the damn punters were. They were, you know, godzilla, freaks of nature, athlete men, and it was the punter, you know what I mean. So you don't really be until you're up close. The speed of it, Like even an NFL when you're it's different than understand when you're
up close on the field. The speed of the game is so it's just so it's faster than anything you think of as you're sitting on the couch when you're actually down there up it's yeah, and the same thing here. I mean with tennis. I it looks fast from from my couch, like sitting on my ass. I'm like, that is read and you don't know if it's a backhand or a forehand, Like you have no idea which way it's going, and it's coming a hundred and twenty cheese listen.
I won't even play enough to like the way they slide at the end of their shop. I wouldn't be coordinated enough to do that, you know what I mean. I'm like, without breaking an ankle, Yeah, exactly. In the first game I played racquetball once, man, I had a dude was talking smack to me that you don't understand what kind of athlete you gotta be to play racketball. And at the time, I was, you know, I was in a hell of a lot better shape than I am now. So I kept telling a guy, you full
of crap. So we threw a couple of bucks down and I get in there and he's all decked out. You know, he's got goggles, he's got you know, brand new equipment. I'm like, God, I'm like, just give me a racket, dude, let me see what's going on here. So I get up, I guess to serve first, and um so I do it, and the ball comes back and hits me square in the cheek. Dude, like like, I could not get out of the way of my own serve, and I just basically put the game. The
guy racketback, I paid him and I left. I had a wealth on the side of my cheek for like three days, and I'm like I can't I'm like, I can't even get up. This is a stupid game. I couldn't even get out of the way of a damn racquetball that I served. I ain't getting on a court with Serena a hundred and ten mile a hour serves. It's just not happening. Man. That's alright, Joe. All we gotta do is predict who's gonna win these things, and
we'll be all. I completely agree with you. Keep me on the golf course, keep me playing horse shoes at the barbecue, keep me playing like beer pong, and I'll be good to go.
