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What Happens Inside the 5

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Short touchdowns are the easiest way to unearth fantasy gold.  Charch, Mat, and Scott provide data for each team's tendencies from inside the five-yard line. Plus they reveal their "blacklist" of players they will not draft.

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Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of I Heart Radio. Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from I Heart Radio, your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice Leagues dot Com. Here's your host, Paul Welcome to the love fest for Damian Pierce, also known as Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charge and my co host today or Scott Fish and Matt Harrison. Hello, guys, Damian

Pierce wasn't available to come in and co host today. Sorry, And it's a good thing because we'd be spooning right now if he did. That would be that's the level of regard. That's a weird thing to do. But you never spoon with me. No, I like Damian Pierce more than I like it. I have photo evidence that negates that. It's uh. It's been a great start for this preseason. But we're gonna talk about all of the camps, all thirty two camps. What are the big stories from each

of the teams. Will also talk about some of the key things you need to know from what happens inside the five yard line. We'll answer three tough questions. We'll talk about the vacated targets from around the league and identify our blacklist players that we will not draft. Not I was gonna say never draft, but there's a point at which I would be grudgingly chacked my guys. But it's like four rounds after they're gonna go. Yeah, it's it's always ADP centric. It's based on that and no

small part. Let's let's start our tour around the training camps with the Panthers. Yeah, not much here. Baker Mayfield won the job. There's a little bit of talk of Higgins, who has good chemistry from with Baker in camp and also because he was with Cleveland with Baker Mayfield, that he might be a guy that gets in a in some decent rotation snaps. Only in your probably twenty four round leagues are you're gonna worry about that though? Um At Let's go to the Raiders. Kenyan Drake was cut

this week. Josh Jacobs now controls the backfield with Brandon Bolden, Ameer Abdula, and Zamir White. I'll do for some sort of role. I want nobody except for Jacobs, just because I think he has more of the goal line role. But also Darren Waller hurt again with an undisclosed injury. Josh McDaniels is noncommittal on Waller's availability for Week one. A couple of weeks ago identified Darren Wallers outside of the safe tight ends that we talked, I think there's

three safe tight ends. That's it. The Packers starters did not play on Thursday night, but I'll just mention this. Jordan's love continues to look very inconsistent. I don't think they've got really any kind of viable answer there. Romeo Adobbs played briefly on Thursday, didn't do much. I'll note that all the presumed starters did not play, and that means you're presumed starting wide receivers are Alan Lazard, Sammy Watkins,

and Randall Cobbs. And Watkins and cob are going undrafted in many leagues, and these are starting wide receivers and an Aaron Rodgers led offense. Let's go to the Washington Commanders. Uh Ron Rivera says Gibson will be the primary kick returner, but the reporters still also expect Gibson to lead the backfield and touches. He's really really slipping. I'm probably not drafting to unless he gets down into the eight to

ten rounds. It should be noted though he did do some kick return work in practice and stuff last year too, we just didn't know about it. Let's go to the Buffalo Bills man Zack Boss and James Cook both looked pretty good in the second preseason games. So we've got a singletary Moss Cook triple headed backfield yuck, and O J. Howard as a cut candidate. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Not a triple backfield, no bueno fantasy. Let's go to

the Texans. Wherever you've got Damian Pierce ranked, it's too low in the preseason. You're looking for rookies who display traits that will translate into the regular season against full time defensive starters, and Pierce looks special. The burst, the footwork, decisiveness, goal line carries. We believe in catch, although he has have been used that way so far. Lovey Smith during the game on Thursday night, said quote, we are a running team. Yeah, it's game on, baby pet Hamilton's there.

Damian Pierce, Uh, if you want him, you're gonna have to go fourth round, third round to get Damian Pierce, who I believe at this point is moved to roughly number one among rookie running backs. All right, let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, so for the Buccaneers, Brady's back with the team. That that whole drama thing is over. But the bigger news is their old line is sitting on three offensive line injuries. Two of them gonna miss most of the season. Third probably be back

by week one, but we're not sure yet. But that's that's some huge hits to that line. I remember they lost two players in the offseason, want to retirement one to free agency. All right, let's go to the Cleveland Browns. Matt Jacoby Brissette officially your starter for the first eleven weeks. By the way, Josh Rosen is the other quarterback on roster right now, and he looked awful in that last preseason game for the Colts. Your kicker. We don't do a lot of kicker talking on the show. Rod Regal

Blanketship contender Jake Verity to win the kicking job. Um, we know that he's not a deep field goal threat, but he kicks indoors and he's on a good offense. Presumably good offense. He's got the best name among all the kickers and regal Blanketship. Yeah, that's great song called blanket Ship by a band called Dive d I I V. Also, he also plays with legos and goes into train camp on like those wheelie shoes and stuff. He also wears his glasses. He's like one of the only players who

wears glasses on the field with your kicker. Why not? I believe we're up with the Lions. Scott not much here. Jamison Williams sent to the reserve list. Not really a surprise though, because he wasn't expected back to late October at the earliest. Anyway, jets Zack Wilson's status won't be updated until likely after Labor Day. Denzel Mims has requested a trade. Breece Hall hasn't quite flashed and enough to

steal the backfield from Michael Carter and Tevin Coleman. If you're drafting Hall, don't plan on starting him for the first few weeks at least that it might be like a Jonathan Taylor Marlon Max situation, or at Adrian Peace and Chester Taylor situation. The talent should have went out eventually, but I mean, he's Roger Craig's cousin. I mean, he's got some talent there in the bloodlines. For the Chiefs on Thursday night, Juju Smith Schuster still getting over injury,

he didn't play. Uh Skymore got the start with the first team offense. They targeted one one down deep throw, but otherwise mostly just return work. Ronald Jones got first team reps, which was interesting. He ran hard, but almost entirely between the tackles, and it's what he has been a cut candidate all camp my theory as they are trying to trying to put him out there for a seventh compick, good luck, Yeah, exactly. Um. For those who invested in Isaiah Pacheco, he was the third back in

the game, but did get some first team work. It's increasingly unclear what Pachenko's playing time might be, and I still I think there's some real risk and drafting him. We'll see though. Uh. Seahawks Scott uh sounds like Pete Carroll and the Seahawks are gonna play super flex this year for the team, They're good, They're gonna they're gonna have both Drew Lock and Judo Smith's quarterbacks. Really, the truth is there's there's still no Carter back decision made.

It's still up in the air and no timetable for ken Walker to return from his hurtnea surgery. They had previously hoped week one. Now it's sounding like not. Let's go to the Broncos. Matt not a ton going on in Denver, but tackle Tom Compton was placed on the pup, meaning he'll miss the first month of the season for the rams Um. We don't do a lot of backup tight end talk, but let me mention Kendall Blanton got

released in a surprise. Remember at the end of last year, he got a bunch of reps when Tyler he was on and he looked pretty good and then they caught him. And this puts Higbie into a position for a pretty sizeable snap count because the guys behind him are just zero threat Bryson Hopkins and Roger Carter. You know if you are if you sleft tight end deeply enough, Tyler Higbee back on the radar, Let's go to the Eagles.

Scott Slime Sanders still dealing with that hammy issue has been for weeks now and now Week one is starting to be in doubt. That's that's not a good sign. Slime Sanders. That's his nickname, Miles Sanders. I didn't know that it might be. I don't know that's his nickname for a while though, I had never heard that, And honestly, I'm pretty impressed on myself right now for having figured

out on the fly. Yeah, that's pretty good. Scott plays with them in a league, by the way, probably, but I play that bet everyone pay with During this show, Miami Dolphins Matt Jalen Waddle has an undisclosed injury and has done little more than stretching with the team over the last week. We've still got plenty of time, but it's worth watching for the Vikings tight end Irv Smith returning to practice, adding some hope that he's gonna be ready for Week one because it's a thumb injury, though

he's not catching passes, just doing individual drills. Vikings are prove their backup quarterback situation, acquiring Nick Mullins this week, which adds some safety to the whole offense and the Minnesota receivers specifically. And continue to watch the backup runners. We've said this for most of the past three shows. Can A want Ty Chandler as they could eat into Alexander Madison's role as the primary backup to Dalvin Cook

Dallas Cowboys. Scott, Yeah, big one here. They lost Tyron Smith on their old line who used to be a beast and still has been good for the last few years. Um, it's just a big blow for that old line. Uh. The other news is Gallup is going to avoid the pups, so they're hoping he'll be ready sometime in the first four weeks. Clearly with that news, and Jerry Jones said the team is still gonna run through Zeke, but Paulard

is going to be involved. And Dak Brescott mentioned Poulard as a pass catcher, so maybe maybe Paula will be pretty flexworthy for you. He was last year. New England Patriots Matt Damien Harris left practice with this week, also with an undisclosed injury. He won't play in the preseason finale. Things are shrouded in mystery in New England always with

their running backs. But in my mind right now, I draft Romande Ramandre Stevenson above Damien Harris right now for the last two or three weeks, that is where I think it flipped. Like last week, they're pretty close on ADP depending on where you are. Some some to have Harris higher still, but yeah, for the Saints, Jameis Winston declared himself ready to start Week one. He's recovering both from an a c L injury from last year and a foot injury from this preseason. Michael Thomas has got

a hamstring injury. He's missed several days of practice, but presumed ready for the opener. How about the Giants Scott so Colin Johnson, who is set to take some starter snaps towards Achilles uh Darius Tony has both knee and hamstring injuries. He's dealing with. Ricky Seels Jones goes to injured reserve Sterling Shepard was activated, but he's coming back from an achilles and and I'm not sure Kenny Golladay

even exists anymore. So it is se Quon Barkley and Daniel Bellinger season in New Has there been a fall from grace any faster than Kenny Golladays? Mean two years ago, he it looked like he was one of the ten best receivers in the league. I don't know Michael Thomas has something to say about that. You know, it's a good point. We'll see how this year goes. But at least Mike Daniel Belinger is a nice tight end sneaky sleeper. Honestly, that's true. At least Thomas and they both have had

injury issues, but Thomas has been unable to play. Let's go to the Titans next man. It's just kind of the wide receiver room kind of shaking out. Robert Woods looks like the pure top wide receiver by a long shot. There, trail On Burke's finally back on the field though. That's good. Nick Westbrook Keen is listed as the starting slot wide receiver. But the sneaky wanted to keep an eye on is Kyle Phillips, who's flashed all the way throughout camp and

he's returning punts really well. Mitch Robiski was named the starter for the Steelers, although that designation may not last all that long. Can you pick? It look very good in the previous uh preseason game, and the Steelers are at Cincinnati in week one. It's easy to imagine at Cincinnati Steelers get drubbed in week one and that might be and that maybe that might be the So right now, name the starter and then it could be what it's yep,

there we go. Uh, your handcuffed? Naji Harris, by the way, may not be Benny Snell. Keep an eye on Jalen Warring about a lot of a lot of extra work. Let's go to the Falcons. Scott Kyle Pitts was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fames week after a fifty two yard catch as a wide receiver. In fact, it was so good that the Falcons cut fellow wide receivers Torontowe Allison and autumn Tate Bengals Joe Burrow increasing practice activity after getting his appendix removed a few weeks ago,

that's good news. Jeff Wilson gives the appearance of being the backup behind Elijah Mitchell. Got all the first team run on Thursday. Trey Lance played, showed some scrambling ability and improvisational skills, but really wasn't asked to do a lot. And I learned and I not I did not realize this.

Jimmy Garoppolo not allowed to practice with the team. He's doing his own practices on a separate field, presumably because they don't want him to learn secrets about the team and then they'll get traded and wanted they don't want him injured. They don't want anything to happen. So yeah, very that's very bizarre. The one year there's no major preseason injuries too. Yeah, well, now Jim Patrick would like to have but yes, almost not. I'll just go to

the Cardinals. Uh. You know, Benjiman seems to have separated himself and is likely to be the backup to James Conner. That role had had some fantasy value with Chase Edmunds last year. People thought it'd be Darrell Williams, but now he appears to be a cut candidate. Wow, all right, let's let's hit the Jaguars man. Trevor Lawrence targeted christ In Kirk eight times in preseason game number two. That's an insane amount of targets to receive in a little less than half of play. He could be in line

for a lot this year. Also, James Robinson targeting Week one for his return to play, so that backfield is getting murky, and it is getting a little bit murky. I don't think Robinson is gonna be a factor, but we'll find out that Ravens Gus Edwards went on the pup list and will miss at least the first month of the season. Mike Davis is your very possible Week one starting running back. Going undrafted in virtually all fantasy leagues,

Mike Davis could be your starter there. JK. Dobbins is trending towards availability, but probably not a workhorse role in week one. And then last thing that I need to mention because we've put this guy on your radar three weeks ago. Isaiah likely continuing to blow minds. Backup tight end, fourth round rookie, maybe not even really a tight end when you look at him, he's he's a hundred like higher thirty five. I changed what I said. There's not

three safe tight ends. There's Mark Andrews, there's Pits, There's Travis Kelsey and Isaiah likely Isaiah likely. They're gonna Ligne. There's no competition on what there's no white outs on this team outside of Bateman. They're gonna, like Isaiah likely likely their number two wide receiver. I'm not I'm not

saying that's out of the question. By the end of the year, Isaiah likely could be the deep facto number two receiver, like Kyle Pitts is a receiver in Atlanta, alright, Sure, Final two teams, Chicago Bears, Scott You just in case people heard about Khalil Herbert Gain injured last week going off on a cart. He was back at practice the next day. It was a total non issue. Just in case you heard about that, all right. And lastly the Los Angeles Chargers. Lots of minor camp injuries for the

second tier Chargers. Donald Parham has a hamstring, Favorite Palmer concussion protocol, Isaiah Spiller ankle injury. Oh, there's a lot of interesting guys that are riding the find. It looks like those starters in l A are going to be ready to go. Though. I love Josh Palmer had the huge, the huge, had the huge game preseason game last week. I'm still very much on board. It's just a concussion. They're they're not big deals. Put some dirt on that concussion.

That's right. When we come back, what's happening inside the five will tell you about the easiest touchdowns your fantasy team can get. When we return to Fantasy Football Weekly, It's Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchie and Guillotine Leagues dot Com. Scott Fish and Matt Harrison with you as well. Next two segments devoted to one of my favorite preseason topics, what happens inside the five yard line? Last year there were almost six hundred touchdowns from inside the five yard line.

This is the part where you always make us guessing. And I was gonna I was gonna be prepared this year and very close. There's These are the easy touchdowns that can propel your fantasy team when you need somebody to score from distance, Like let's look, get Miles Sanders, who has to score from distance or just not score at all. Well, and then sometimes they just don't score it all, as opposed to Boston Scott, who you know, picks up these easy touchdowns and they end up scoring giants,

so end up scoring the same fantasy points. By the way, I demand that every time Scott's on the show and Boston Scott is mentioned, you do a Boston accent. Demand this say chowder. No, I can't even say it with an accent. By the way. You know, so we're from where I'm from, you know, up on the Minnesota Iron Rage on the border of Canada, where you got Canadian plus Minnesota. We don't have I don't have any access

up there. They do. We're gonna go through every team, tell you the one thing you need to know about that team's predilections inside the five yard line. And we begin with the Panthers. Scott, Yeah, yeah, based on last year. I don't think I can go based on last year, because the Panthers ran it with Newton and uh Sam Donald early in the season. If you remember, he was running the ball near the goal line constantly. They ran ten times and scored seven times inside the five. Very good.

Baker's run ten times in his career inside the five, that's not really a thing he does. In fact, he's got several kneel downs inside the five. That role is going to McCaffrey, who back in his full nineteen year he had twenty of the two attempt inside the five. It's gonna be all McCaffrey. It'll almost certainly be McCaffrey there, perhaps even as a receiver inside the five. The Panthers only through it last year nine times inside the five years how many times? Nine times? Let me mention this,

We talked about it every year. When you do this segment, you're looking at an ideal conversion rate on on touchdown scored on plays that start inside the five is about fifty the great You know, the really good effective players are at about a fifty percent conversion rate. If you're running back with ten carries from inside the five, you'd like to see about five touchnowns. So I just want to put that out there. Since you brought it up, Matt,

let's go to the raider. Last year, Josh Jacobs took thirteen carries inside the five and scored seven times, So just above that fifty percent mark. That was pretty good. Josh McDaniels is the new UH coach in Las Vegas. His Patriots offense featured one of the heaviest run attacks in the league from inside the five last year, so I think Josh Acops might be in a good spot to convert a lot of touchdowns this year. People aren't

talking about him very much. I aren't talking about him, but this is the kind of data we love from inside the five. The Packers former receiver Davante Adams, he leaves behind the most receptions, most targets, and most touchdowns since So ask yourself this, what are the will the Packers do without Davante Adams? Will they just ask somebody else to fill that role, could be um or do they start running the ball more. This is never, This is not. For years, it's been a team that runs

much inside the five. They've thrown a lot more. Maybe there will be some extra opportunity for Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon. Let's go to the Washington commanders. What's happening inside the five? So Washington passed the ball ten times inside the five last year to wide receivers and tight ends. One completion brutal, So hopefully they run it more. They read it twenty three times last year with just

Gibson alone. He had of their rush attempts in side the five, he only converted a third of him though, that feels like it's below Um, I'm gonna go check over. Yeah. So, so are you saying Brian Robinson right now? Without saying Brian Robinson. I like the fact they ran it twenty three times inside the five last year, and if Brian Robinson has that role and a better conversion rate, And I'm just saying you're not really you're not saying I don't believe Yes, yes, depending down on this, Yes, and

Brian Robinson, Yes, that should be good. Matt. What's happening with the Buffalo Bills? Inside the five, it's kind of a mess. Uh. Devin Singletary and Josh Allen tied for the most rushing attempts for the infrared zone for the bills of seven apiece. Singletary converted four touchdowns. Allen had three, by the way, so that's not bad. Zack Moss but also had five carries for three scores. So this is a true committee approach in the five that makes Buffalo

even worse on the running back spectrum for me. You know who not in a committee for carries inside the five for Buffalo Josh Allen. Well I mentioned him too, and he's like right in the third of all of them. So it's like, well, that's great for Josh Allen because you're starting for other reasons too. For the Texans, Houston ranked last in passes and passing touchdowns and Rex burkehead led the entire team in touchdowns from inside the five with two. Massive Pierce is going to do that in

Week one exactly yet. Have you noticed We've managed to work in Damian Pierce's name now four times in two segments and I don't even played the league with him or anything. That's the amazing part. Scott Tell me about the Bucks inside the five yard line. So I just mentioned how Washington passed it ten times with only one completion the Bucks. Tom Brady on his own had eighteen passing touchdowns inside the five yards. Yeah, that feels like they all went to Mike Evans. I will say, Mike

Kevin six grong uh twice break three times. Howard caught his loan target for everybody. Everybody was got. You know, um, there's there's believed crazily not a lot of running going on. So you want the past the fasting options in the Bucks because that they get the inside the five options. They're all going for a discount now because everybody's weirded out about the Bucks. Right Cleveland, what's happening inside the five?

Man Nick Chubb missed three games last year, but still recorded of the team's rushing attempts from inside the five. Kareem Hunt didn't get a lot of carries, but notably de Ernest Johnson went to for two like that inside the five on rushing attempts and touchdowns. Also, Amari Cooper, by the way, he scored three times on three targets inside the five last year for the Cowboys. So Cooper is one of my favorite sleep wildly efficient inside the five?

Are the Cleveland Browns this year as a whole team. Yeah. And also if you think that you know when everything shakes out in the teams, these teams all make their cuts in the coming week. If you think that Kareem Hunt is not going to be on the Browns, you should be drafting backup running backs either Dearness Johnson or Ford. You know, I think it'd be Johnson first, But those guys, there's some great these your last pick of your draft scenarios where you could have the new Kareem Hunt. Sure,

let's go to the Colts. Jonathan Taylor's thirty rushes thirty from inside the five was twelve more than anybody else. In Taylor's two seasons. The Colts have run the ball seventy times from inside the five yard line, number one in the league. That's why he's going first five touchdowns because if not, I don't want him on my Exactly he's out. Let's go to the Detroit Lions. What's happening

inside the five? Scott uh Detroit Lions, Jamal Williams and DeAndre Swift actually almost completely split the inside the five touches. I don't think you're drafting Swift for his touchdowns as much as you are his receptions and total yards. But I did fund interesting point. Tight ends are generally pretty touchdown dependent for the most part, especially the lower you go in the rankings. T J. Hawkinson did not have a single target inside the five last year. That's so dumb. Yeah,

he's a big guy, he's six. It feels it feels like they need to correct that. They really do. I'm I'm hoping that they do. Let's go to the Let's go to the Jets. What are they doing inside the five? They're not doing anything because they didn't make it there. Last year. In thirteen games, Zach Wilson only threw the ball eight times from inside the five. He did throw a touchdown on four of those eight. Uh. He only ran six times from inside the five and scored three touchdowns.

But they only had twenty seven rushing attempts as a team from inside the five. That's less than Jonathan Taylor had himself. Yes, that is correct for the Chiefs, and I think people when you think of Tyreek Hell, I think sixty yard lasers coming off the arm of Patrick Mahomes and him sprinting into the end zone. But it turns out he leaves behind the team high eleven targets

from inside the five. Since there's no wide receiver currently on the Chief's roster that has more than three targets in their life from inside the five, there is a void. I want you to take that nugget right there and hold that nugget for when we get to the Dolphins. All right, good, we'll we'll, we'll nugget ties of that Seahawks. What's happening inside the five? Scott, Yeah, Matt was just talking about a lack of the Jets making inside the five.

The Seahawks had nine pass attempts nine times and only thirteen Russians pimps inside the five. That they were scoring more from distance, that's you know they were. Tyler Lockett was there was that, and actually so was for a shot. Penny ripped off a bunch of long runs at the exactly exactly so not a lot of inside the five stuff and pretty pretty split up between all the players too. Matt,

let's go with the Broncos inside the five. Scott kind of stole my thunder talking about the Seahawks because Russell Wilson. He only threw the balls six times from inside the five last year. The other three went to Geno Smith. That's a shockingly low number. But head coach Nathaniel Hackett comes from the Packers Street and Aaron Rodgers through the ball twenty seven times last year from inside the five.

That was the fourth most in the NFL. We got to see a shift for Russell Wilson inside the five. UM I would think Courtland Sutton would be You're the big beneficiary, biggest beneficiary from extra short passes or a pick play near the end zone to Jerry Judy, just like you know in the Super Bowl that likes those. That still hurts for a lot of people. Let's go

to the Rams inside the five. The Rams had the league's lowest run ratio thirty five per cent, and if my math is correct, that means they passed six Cooper cup lad all receivers in targets and touchdowns from inside the five yard line last year. Very effective at that. I don't think that's going to change because it worked last year. But keep this as another reason to potentially avoid cam Akers. Darrell Henderson not only and we'll talk more about this light now that they're hurt right now,

which is another factor. We don't even know what they got, but another reason to show some caution on those guys, Eagles. What's happening inside the five? Scott? The Eagles only passed the ball fifteen times inside the five. Half of them were to Earth's well, not exactly half, because fifteen doesn't do that. Seven. It was only there through six weeks, yes, seven to earths. In those six weeks. Uh, they ran the ball, however, forty three times. They run a lot

when they're getting close. And who was doing that running? Yeah, don't get too excited because about a third of that was Jalen Hurts, which is exciting. That's exciting for Jalen Hurts. Um Miles Sanders only saw six of those forty three. I moved Jalen Hurts to quarterback too, was trying to get him to say Boston Scott and took him right before you and league, thank you, note that, appreciate that. Thank you. Uh Dolphins, Matt, what's happening inside the five

yard line? Remember that nugget about Tyreek Hill. We're bringing it right, yes to His completion percentage from inside the five was eighty two percent. He was nine of eleven for eight touchdowns from the infrared zone last year. That's the highest completion percentage in the league among quarterbacks through at least ten passes from inside the five. The to a Tyreek connection inside the five might be scfinitely warming up to it. Absolutely last team from inside the five

that will do in this segment. We'll do more next segment. Vikings had the worst rushing conversion rate of any team just of all runs resulted in touchdowns last year. We think if Dalvin Cook as being a maestro near the stripe, he struggled a lot. Vikings offensive line looks better this year, so maybe he'll get better. But Kevin O'Connell has mentioned earlier from the rams where they ran the ball that

they had the lowest run percentage. There's some sneaky downside with Dalvin near the strip that fantasy owners need to be aware of. When we come back, we will continue with deep dive data on team trends from inside the five yard line. It's Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back to the show. Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Scott Fish and Matt Harrison with you plenty going on at Guillotine

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Let's go with the Dallas Cowboys, Scott. Really it was a pretty even run pass split for the Cowboys. But of note, Zekiel Elliott had eighteen opportunities inside the five. Nobody else on the team, not a single player had more than three outside of him, and he scored. It's very safe. On those eighteen plays, he scored nine times, nine times times. That's that's that we're looking for. Mary Cooper went, that's still going to be his role, still

gonna be his role. Patriots are always fascinating inside the five. Traditionally a way run, heavier team, even when Tom Brady was there than people ever thought. Yeah, Damien Harris had the third most rushing attempts in the NFL last year from inside the five with fourteen, also had the third most rushing scores from that area. He scored nine times, you don't say nine times nine time on that conversion rate, that's very good, fantastic. The Saints ranked twenty in rushes

and thirty first in rushing conversion percentage into touchdowns. Alvin Kamara converted just two of eleven Russia attempts, and this offensive line got worse in the off season with the

loss of Tarrant Armstead, who was awesome. So while we're still I think generally pretty high on Alvin Kamara, particularly PPR leagues, and he had been good inside the five the year before, you know, just be aware that this is uh, this is a factor that one game against the Vikings might have all of his numbers might have two years ago that might have been the case. Let's

go to the Giants. What's happening inside the five? Scott Like the Seahawks, the Giants only had twenty four plays inside the five and not a single player had more than one receiving touchdown inside the five. Not a single player had more than one rushing touchdown inside the five. Year It's actually been the same story pretty much for the last two years. So we have to go back to Barkley's rookie season, where he had eighteen attempts and dominated that area. You hope that it returns to that

now that he's healthy. Let's hope. So Tennessee Titans, they're interesting. They are interesting, right, Ryan Tannehill. Let's the league? Yeah, in quarterback rushing touchdowns from inside the five with seven. He scored seven touchdowns on seven rushing attempts. That's one conversion. I hope he does it again. I love that little jump ball flip thing he does every touchdown he runs it.

How about this? He scored on four or five rushing attempts from inside the five and two of two from nineteen So the last three years he scored touchdowns thirteen times on fourteen carries from inside the five. Three percent conversion for Ryan. I imagine a lot of people are going, well, he did it last year because Derrick Henry was out, but he sprinkled him in his whole career. That's why he get a lot of them early. He doesn't well, Derrick Henry is in there because they're all focused on

Derrick Henry, and he can just prance in undetected. He can fall forward for every yards is what I hear you Titans. That was the Titans. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, here we go, Steve. Remember the Titans Naji Harris only converted four of eleven attempts and the Steelers were second to last in run ratio. He told you the Rams were last. Steelers were second to last. This is a terrible offensive line and it remains terrible. This is Pro

football focus is bottom ranked offensive line. Nazi Harris has to work for every touchdown, even the easy ones from inside the five yard line. I think that's safe to say a measure of caution. Atlanta Falcons. What's happening inside the five? Scott? Yeah, this this one was pretty evenly split between Patterson and Mike Davis, Matt Ryan through at

nineteen times that we got we got Mariota there. Now it's going to be a completely different situation with a mobile quarterback who we've already seen run one in in in the preseason. Here. Um, I don't love really anything inside the for the Falcons, to be honest, Tyler Algier, he's built for it. And I played a league with him. Of course you do. I played. No, you took until the What are we about the I'm just gonna play this every time, Scott Seper Bowl Baby, We're in the

sleeper Bowl. You need a better Robbie. We need a better cow like a ding bell. Yeah, that's on that next week. My minions work on it. I wish I had minions. Cincinnati Bengals, Matt what's happening inside the five years? Joe Mixon took seventy of the Bengals carries inside the five last year. That was the third highest percentage for a team for any runner in the league. So he just gets the lion share of all another Tiger share. I guess I love Joe Mixon more than way more

than most people do. And I'll mention this every other running back who got carries and they're only like two all year where games mix and missed. If he's on the field, he gets the carrots. Bet Next, this is a shocking stat from inside the five. George Kittles played sixties seven career games, not just inside the five. They let him play it on the whole field. Um sixties seven games. Think about all the drives that he's been

on the field for they've targeted him. They targeted him just ten times in his entire career from inside the five, and just once last year for George Kittle maybe he's too good of a blocker. They they like to have him block in that spot, but he has been throughout Kyle Shanahan's entire time with George Kittle, which is Kittle's whole career. They don't throw to him, And to me, interesting that caps his value because Titans get so many of the short touchdowns typically. I think that's a very

I think that's a factor to keep in mind. Scott. Let's go to the Arizona Cardinals inside the five, nine runs passes pretty evenly split. But James Conner got eighteen of those run over those twenty nine run intaps and scored on ten of them. I think that's still his role this year and that that is over the charge.

So you know, alright, I did the man, thank you that that does work out calculation Jaguars inside the five man Marvin Jones Jr. Oh targeted inside the five the second most in the NFL, only behind Cooper Cup eight targets in the five, but he only caught three balls for two scores. She needs to play Xavier Rhodes more because he'd score more. Ravens. Many people believe Lamar Jackson steals touchdown runs up close, but he's only run ten times over the last two years from inside the five

yard line, whereas their running backs ran forty times. So that would not believe, that would not be the case. We don't we want a part of the forty And by the way, it's gonna be J. K. Dobbins in time. Just a matter of when a couple of teams left Chicago Bears inside the five man, that's Scott, Sorry Scott. Uh. They only passed the ball nine times. I keep trying

to find these working the segment around this. But Montgomery alone, David Montgomery alone had thirteen carries, scoring on six of them, which is under But that's that's decent. If you're getting that kind of volume, it's fine in Chicago. That's a that's that's amazing. Last team inside the five, the Los Angeles Chargers, no player threw more passes from inside the five than justin air Bear with thirty two. Wow this

conversion percentage that was shockingly low around thirty. Yeah. He was also number five in the NFL among quarterbacks for rushing attempts inside the five with six. By the way, Mike Williams and Keenan Allen each finished in the top five for targets inside the five amongst wide receivers last year, so they got there a lot. They didn't convert all the time, but they got there a lot and there

were a lot of targets. So I want to ask you about some low end quarterbacks and tell me if you see some upside in these players, beginning with Mac Jones in New England. Do you believe there is upside beyond what we saw last year from Mac Jones. I just want to give a one weird answer. I mean it's his second his second year in the league, so you gotta expect, you know, and you've seen the pictures, Like the guy's been a workout warrior. He's in like ridiculous.

He like came in baby face and like baby fat and stuff. Now he's got some deep, real muscle on him and stuff. Uh. I can see improvement over last year, but I still haven't pushed him up over like QB fifteen or anything. He's still in that back end of your QB two's in super flex and he's like a take a chance on me player. In the season, I can see him being better than last year. I just they run the ball so much there especially down near

the strike. Well, a team that won't. How about Marcus Mariota, Oh yeah right, How is there some sneaky upside to Marcus Mariota? I think both Mariota and later in the season, once the Falcons are completely out of it, Ridder because they are going to get I'm sure they're going to get him in eventually to to see what he's got. But yeah, just because of the rushing upside alone, we we see what that rushing does to to these quarterbacks.

We've almost hit the point where if your quarterback doesn't run the ball, you almost have to be Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady to crack the top five s eight. Here's the guy that the low end quarterback that I that I kind of like. It's Daniel Jones. He gets gets an absolutely new offensive system. And by the way, it's a system that melds the Buffalo Bills in Brian Table and the Kansas City Chiefs in Mike Kafka. Let's put two offenses together. Here's my only problem. Who's catching

the ball? Like? That's probably yeah, maybe Cadarius Tony if he can stay healthy. I think they like one Dale Robinson quite a bit. I mean, they still got the old sterling shepherd mare. Maybe that's it. Maybe they just cobble it together. And his stats are two yards and two touchdowns. But you're never going to trust any of them. Let me give you another low one quarterback that I'm

intrigued by. Do you believe there's some upside to Jared Goff? Absolutely, We've talked about it a little bit on the show before. He's got the best offensive line he's ever had. He's probably got as good of weapons, maybe not as good a weapons. I mean he had Cooper Cup and sorry DeAndre Swift and amand Wrestling Brow. I'll put up there with everybody. Yeah, I know you love it. T J. Hawkinson, Jamison Williams when he gets back, d J. CHARKI like

a lot so worthplace schedule. Yeah, there there's there's upside for Jared Goff. I think there's some sneak. The downside for Jared goffs he loses his job if he cannot perform arm in this. I don't know. I've watched his backups on Hard Knocks. I don't think he loses his job. That is probably true. Hard Knocks compelling, best season of Card Knocks in alright, last quarterback with some potentially sneaky

upside Jamis Winston. Oh yeah, I mean that that's he has more upside than any of the players we've listed to this point, between Landry and Michael Thomas. If he returns to form and Crystal streaking down the sidelines, Yeah, he's easily if we get chucked the ball up yolo ball Jamis Winston tons offside their tons. We didn't. We didn't get yolo style Winston last year, which which maybe

Sean Payton kept him under wraps. But he's still He's still throw fourteen touchdowns in seven games, but that's clumped right. He had like five in Week one, like zero zero one one and then four and then zero one. Maybe that evens out this year. Crystal Lovey is going to bring steep speed to that position that they didn't have before, and maybe that blends well with Jamis Winston's yolo passing stylings it's got referred to. Hopefully that'll be the case.

You can find some you can find some sneaky upside very late in your draft at quarterback position. When we come back our number two Fantasy Football Weekly, we will be able to go through three tough questions. You can try to go three and oh, as I Pepper my co host with questions. Also, you can download my cheat sheet for free at Guillotine leagues dot com. Our number two available. Coming up next Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back our number two Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charge and Matt

Harrison and Scott Fish with you. Matt's Shock Fantasy. Yes, what's happening? Uh, Lots of new cheat sheets and updates every week. Vulture is the good promo code for fifteen dollars off a season long membership over at Shock Fantasy. This a game we call three tough Questions. I will pepper, my co host, with three questions. You can play along, try to go three and oh. Tough question number one,

which wide receiver will lead the league in receptions? Matt, alright, So to me, I think you need two elements for this to happen. A quarterback who throws the ball a ton like thirty five times a game or more, and there are only eight quarterbacks who did that last year. And a wide receiver corps that has one wide receiver that's vastly more talented than the rest. In my mind, there's two situations that fit this bill number one Jars,

this is my wrong answer. Okay, wrong answer. Christian Kirk Wow, Okay, he's not my answer. But Lawrence threw the ball over six hundred times last year, and I think Kirk will average at least ten targets per game, nearly half of those attempts by Lawrence. We're on target to right. I think he's going to surprise the heck out of people this year. I I really like Christian and Kirk a lot. But the correct answer is Ceedee. Lamb of the Cowboys dack through the ball five ninety six times last year.

I bet Fish is going to tell you about all the vacated targets in Dallas next segments, so I won't step on his touchdown call. But Lamb is looking at only an injured Michael Gallup and a rookie Jalen Tolbert his competition for wide receiver targets. He's about to go crazy, Scott, which wide receiver will lead the league in receptions? Yeah?

I uh, I thought about Lamb. I thought about Justin Jefferson because but what to turn me away from Justin Jefferson is just there's a lot of other weapons that which passes there, I'm gonna get super lazy here, and I'm going right back to Cooper Cup. I'm going right back to Cooper Cup because I don't think a lot changes in that offense. If anything, that's probably the right answer. If if cam Akers returns back to form, sure he's gonna take some work, but also the offense is gonna

move better. So I'm sticking with Cooper Cup. He had like twenty nine more targets than anyone else last year. Let's pretend you are Dak Prescott in a typical game from anywhere in this schedule. You drop back to pass. You look across the middle. Here's Michael Gallup dragging one leg behind him. You look to the right, there's rookie Jalen Toilbert running the wrong route and he just stepped out of bounds. You look to the side, and I think, when can I get you checked down to Dalton Schultz

and told right there. You look left and there's Seedee Lamb, one of the best receivers in the league, open by three yards. Why three yards, you might ask, And how do I know that he's opened by three yards? Because according to next Gen stats, Ceedee Lamb's average separation per attempt was three yards. It's an easy decision on where to send that ball. And that's that. In addition to everything Matt said, is why Ceedee Lamb is going to

lead the league in recepts. Tough question number two. The player who can score fifteen touchdowns that nobody is talking about is who? And by the way, before we go any further, I need to mention, are you doing this because the answers dam Piers Harris, don't tell me. Welcome to Damien Tierce Weekly. When we asked a variation of this question last preseason, somebody told you Damian Harris was

the right answering, and we'll continue with that alright. The player can score fifteen touch ones that nobody is talking about is who. Scott Man, He's in the conversation here too. Damian Harris scored fifteen last year. They run a ton inside the five um the other options. James Conner is going to have the same role in Arizona. The offense should be a little better. Cooper Cup had sixteen last year.

He's he's got the possibility. You might knowing you, you might even think it's Adam Thealan who had ten touchdowns in eleven games. The offense is, you know, a full healthy year plus a better offense, more past heavy offense. I could see you going tricky and going that route. I'm gonna go with someone that is actually talked about a little bit um in the US, but but not a lot, not a lot for fifteen touchdowns. It's the other back for New England. Aside Damien Harrison Damien Harris,

it's Romandre Stevenson. I can tell you I was in a charity draft the other night with Darren Waller at Gary Barnage and John Carlos standon. When Jack Carlos Stanton took uh took Romandre Stevenson. I mentioned how they had twenty eight runs a fifteen plus yards. They led the league. They've been tops in the league over the last seven years in runs inside the five yard line. He's gonna have a larger role, especially in the past game, and he's a bigger, bodied bully back. Then Damian Harris is

he had five last year. I think he can. I think he can take it up to fifteen this year. I think it's possible. Answer. Yeah, the guy John Carlos set drafted it did that draft the player who can score fifteen touchdowns that nobody is talking about Matt So. I was in my home league auction last night with George Clooney, Ryan Reynolds. Listeners actually like this. I don't feel comfortable doing it, but I think it's funny. Scott's

serious though I'm not. I'm serious about those players. But obviously, but but Ryan Reynolds, George Clooney, Brad pitt none of them were talking about James Conner. Um. He has virtually no competition for touches in that backfield. The Cardinals running back group tally twenty one touchdowns last year, and eighteen of them went to Connor. Plus Chase Edmonds is gone, so it makes Connor even more of a focal point. He's the only show in town in that running game.

And James Conner is the correct answer. I did text Brian. He said, it's Kyle Pitts though it's kind of that's fifteen touchdowns and be talking about it. The correct answer is Adam feeling you didn't cover half the league in your answer. I covered four people. I was like, not get credit for that, because this is going to be as well off. I already counted him as a wide

receiver over the past two seasons. Regular listeners know this because I've thrown this stat out over the over well, even going back through the off season shows a Fantasy Football Weekly over the past two seasons, Adam Feeland is the highest touchdown percentage and passes thrown from inside the ten yard line and the five yard line, and only Davante Adams has as a receiver has more total touchdowns on plays that start from inside the ten last year,

and you alluded to this very saliently, Scott he Adam Theeland was healthy for eleven games, ten touchdowns till eleven games. Nobody seems to remember that had he continued on that pace, he would have been the highest scoring wide. You've got fifteen touchdowns, tied with Cooper Cup regression my tail last year. As I mentioned, now's a point nine touchdowns per game clip.

And this team, as we described earlier in this show, should be throwing the ball more under Kevin O'Connell than they were, and up close inside the five yard line, they should be throwing the ball more under Kevern O'Connell than they did with Mike Zimmer. I think this is uh. I think Adam feeling. We're gonna get the hopefully we get the full healthy season. He's the player that could hit fifteen touchdowns that nobody's talking about. Tough question number three,

Which version of cor Darryl Patterson? Are we going to get the pre Thanksgiving League winner we saw last year or the post Thanksgiving turkey that we that ended fantasy seasons Across the board? We begin with Matt It's weird, but when Cordaryl Patterson has fewer touches, he scores more touchdowns. He scored eleven total touch downs last year, seven of which came in games where he carried the ball nine

times or less nine times nine times. That's not very many carries for him, so you'd think that the Falcon staff noticed this and he did wear down as the season rolled on. That's why they brought in Damian Williams, and that's why they brought in rookie Tyler l Gear to be a part of the running game. So I think they're going to use him more as a weapon this year instead of our strict running back keeping him in the six to eight carry range five to six

reception range. That should make him more effective as a player. So I'll be optimistic and say it's the pre Thanksgiving cord Errol, but in true reality it's probably somewhere right in the middle. So your answer, I'm wishy washy. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with the optimistic winning previous But I but I don't fully believe in my answer. You don't. I only got two choices, Well, goad this. Do you think it'd be easier with only two choices? Well, I think the third choice would be the middle one.

It's it's like if there's a grade between an A and a bat, which there's not a B plus which version of Cordale Patterson are we gonna get Scott the pre Thanksgiving league winner or the post Thanksgiving turkey who ended fantasy seasons. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a lot closer to the to the post Thanksgiving He was just too efficient to just too fantasy high scoring in the first half UM, and they went away from it. They went away from it because either it wasn't working

or they just couldn't do it anymore. They brought in players to take up the running back snaps. They brought in a new wide receiver. UM. They brought in running quarterbacks that can do other things. I don't think he has the same role. I do think that they'll try to use him efficient efficiently and have some corderyal chicanery going on, you know, like some trick plays and stuff, and get him involved in some ways. But I cannot see him. I think that first half of that season

might be his best fantasy stretch his career. Will ask Scott, can you like be real about the stop since you're in a league with Tyler Algier and he's like your best friend. Because like you do you text, you're not realistic, so you're on a yes, you're gonna get pre or you down the turkey side of this, I'm not trusting thirty one year old part time Cordarrel Patterson. The audio response is for the correct you just wanted to hit the turkey. I love hitting the turkey, but it's Cordarrell

Patterson odd Thanksgiving. That's right, you only get him Thanksgiving Day. Uh pre Thanksgiving, you forget how good he was. Pre Thanksgiving, Cordarrell Patterson was averaging one total yards and point nine touchdowns per game that was scored Darryl Patterson. That was unbelievable, but The workload proved to be too much for Patterson, and it all tailed off hard. Even though the workload didn't change that much for him after Thanksgiving, the output

change dramatically. He averaged after Thanksgiving fifty fewer yards per game, a full yard per carry fewer, and he only scored two times the entire rest of the season. Cordarrell fell off the clip. They know that they have to limit his usage and therefore, on modest what's probably gonna be eight to ten touches a game, That is it. Corderyl Patterson had touches. You can only do so much when you're getting the ball seven times a game, eight times a game. It's hard to it's hard to be impactful

as a running back. We'll see maybe they don't play him as a running back, Maybe they don't play anybody in the right position. In Atlanta. When we come back, it's the blacklist. Players we will not draft, well maybe not never, but not anywhere near where they're getting drafted. Will identify quarterbacks, running back, so wide receiver, tight ends we will not draft. The blacklist. Coming up next on Fantasy Football Weekly, Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul Charchy

and Scott Fish, Matt Harrison with you. This is a segment we do every preseason called the Blacklist. These our blacklist players that we will not draft. Now, when I say we I'm gonna give up, I'm gonna give my players, you're gonna give yours. That's unique to you. Other people, you know, we may not agree with each other. This is your own personal blacklist of players you will not draft. We begin to the quarterback position, Matt, who is your blacklist?

Quarterback Kyler Murray. Um, here's my issue with Kyler. For the last three years, he's been one of the hottest quarterbacks in the game first September and October. Then he gets some undisclosed injury and falls apart over the final month of the season. Or maybe he's playing call of duty on a double experience points weekend. Who knows, uh? In your fantasy playoffs is when you need studs though,

and here's an illumination of this. In Kyler's first eight weeks of each of his three pro seasons, his average stat line is two seventy six passing yards, one point eight touchdowns, forty two rushing yards, and point six rushing

touchdowns per game. That's a really good quarterback. Then in his final five games of each of his three pro season, that drops to two thirty seven passing yards, one point two touchdown passes, thirty four rushing yards, and he's only scored twice in December or January in his career, zero point one three rushing touchdowns per game. Last time we saw Kyler Murray was that disastrous playoff game. It's been a little bit hard to shake that. So for whatever reason,

he can't hold up to a full season. Maybe it's his body style or how he plays, he just can't hold up to a full season, and I'm not taking him in the fifth or sixth round. Yeah. Actually, I mean that really tracks with you know, a couple of years ago, he had the shoulder injury about mid season. Last year, had an injury about mid season, miss a

couple of games. So that kind of does hold up that he gets injured, you know, somewhere from I mean, you can draft him and enjoy him for September and October, but trade him in week four or five ankle last year or four or five pretty early when you were talking about going downhill in December, trade him for trade him for Justin air Bear in week four or five.

That's more fun. Your blacklist quarterback, Scott, I'm going to rust Wilson, and this is the guy I think I might have even said on the segment last year because the second half of the season for several years now he has almost just completely disappeared. And it happened again last year. Last year, from the week four through the end of the season, he topped two fifty yards once and totes not that much. Not that NFL. He had five sub two hundred days. He had a few goose

egg days for touchdowns. He just doesn't seem to doesn't seem to have good end of seasons. Now, you notice he changed teams. He changed teams. Here's where I'm going. He changed teams. I actually really like Sutting this year, kind of like Judy is a little over priced for me.

I'd rather have Sutton Um. But my biggest problem is he's going to QB seven or QB eight off the board when I can get Cousins or car or Trey Lance or something a fault even even right now, where Wilson is going to full two and a half rounds later, you can get Brady or Dac. It's his price tag. You know, for that possible risk and his price tag. The quarterback that's on my blacklist is Chicago quarterback Justin Fields.

To this point through the preseason, he doesn't look any different than the inaccurate, scattered player that we saw last year. Maybe these new offense, the new offense and the new coaches will pay off at some point, but how long does that take? And how long do I gotta wait? And then this offensive line? Oh my gosh, it's bad. It's so bad. You know, they're they're they've got four new starters. They're trying to find a new home for last year's second round picked Tevin Jenkins, and they can't

figure out a spot he can play. They ranked thirty one by Pro Football Focus and offensive line for this year, and that's incredibly generous. It is to think the actual subway Turnstiles might do better as an offensive line than what they currently cemented into it. Like, yeah, it's weird to watch a football game and watch a quarterback and be like I feel bad for you, Like I really feel bad. You're going to be counting on Justin Fields

to basically fran Tarkent in his way. That's it. It's just gonna be at least they have one of the most star studded deepest receiver corpse, thank God, exactly, I'm not I I can't. I understand the rushing potential that any quarterback who can run like Justin Fields is going to give you big rushing output days, but just the rest of its so is functionally. I'm worried he's gonna have some bad, bad games. Justin Fields my blacklist quarterback. Let's go to the running back position, Matt who is

your blacklist runner? I have Travis e t N here, he's coming back from a Liz Frank injury. James Robinson obviously coming back from Achilles. You have to take e t N in the early third round. Twenty nine point eight. Is his a DP right now? Yeahs head coach has never had a bell cow though. Either that's the problem. The Eagles went a long time with Doug Peterson operating

with two to three backs in the backfield. We have no track record to believe that it's going to be his backfield alone or at least and then charges favorite player in the whole league besides Damian Pierce, of course, is Snooper Loop Connor. Uh. He's in play for goal line touches. I think this is messy all year, and I don't draft messy at the top of the third round. Your your blacklist, quarterback, Scott, it was you this time? Uh my running back Miles recollection of turning my mic off.

By the way, I don't know how that happened. That was me ran over to the other side on the on the judge back here the camera, Miles Sanders. Actually, I could have gone with David Montgomery for those same offensive line issues that not at his a DP. Miles, We're not done his bears as a group, We're definitely not. Forget the fact that he isn't even fully healthy and he's been splitting work this preseason, and forget the fact that he even tells you not to draft him in

that's not a good sign. Actually, don't forget either of those things. Lean on both of those things. He also barely gets the rushing attempts inside the five we noted. Out of forty three Russia to him, he got six. He doesn't even get that work. His pass catching, he caught fifty balls his first year. He hasn't tough thirty cents. The thirty isn't even a high high bar for us started running back in the NFL. That's really low. I

can't trust him with anything again. That's Miles Sanders, your Blacklist player, sixth round, sixth round ADP for a guy that I'll give you a fourth round ADP I'm not touching. And that's the Rams running back Cam Akers. And I've said it several times in the show. I'm gonna keep keep mentioning it. No NFL running back has ever returned to productivity after suffering Achilles injury. I hope Cam Akers is the first one. I hope he makes history and

becomes that guy. But I'm not risking my fourth round pick on history happening. The more likely scenario here is that Acres is less effective than he used to be from this injury, and he's sharing time with Darrell Henderson effectively all year, and has mentioned earlier in the show, Sean McVeigh had last year's second lowest run rate inside the five. You can't even necessarily be assured of getting many, if any of the inside the five easy touchdowns from

Cam Acres, my blacklist runner. Let's go to the wide receiver position. Matt, who have you black listed? I remember going back to a state fair show and like and Charch said, has anybody ever regretted drafting Michael Thomas? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I'm not drafting him anymore. It's never an easy feeling taking a guy who hasn't played in two years. The last time he caught a touchdown pass, it was from

Drew Brees. It was that playoff game where the slime was coming into the end zone, the first Nickel Sanders we're talking about, Yeah, exactly, Okay, missed a huge chunk of injuries, took all one off with an ankle injuries, already dinged up in camp with a hamstring injury, and he's going at the end of the fifth round. Right now. Let's say he does play. Who says he vibes with Jamison Winston at all? Why would Chris olav or Jarvis Landry not be Winston's preferred target. The ceiling can't be

as high as twenty season. It probably can't be half of that record breaking year. And the floor is that you get absolutely nothing of Michael Thomas this year that you could nothing. I don't think it's just I don't think it's quite as low as you do. But hopefully hopefully well. We want him, we want him to be healthy. We want Michael Thomas to do well. Your blacklist wide receiver, Yeah, yeah,

mine's one. Mine's actually we we've been listening off guys that are going more in the early rounds and we hate their ad EPs. Mine I'm going with is going in the eleventh round, and it's I just don't really feel he's draftable at all. It's Christian Watson for the Packers. We've mentioned earlier in the show that the starters right now are Eleanor's Art, Sammy Watkins, and Randall Cobb, and all the talk in camp is Romeo Dubbs and Christian Watson.

Watson has been hurt on the tape. I thought he was a beast in college, but like he seemed like a very hit and miss prospect he could easily bust. I don't even, I don't even I thought that there was a chance he could be the Packers wide receiver one. I'm not sure how much he gets on the field now, with the reports that they're gonna run a lot of twenty one with Aaron Jones and Dylan on the field and less wide receivers on the field. I don't know where he even get snaps. I don't know why he's

being drafted. To be honest with Watkins, timetable is next year in all probability Watson, excuse me, yes, I just don't see it for this year. I don't. I don't think he's draftable even Moore. My blacklist wide receiver is Chicago wide receiver Darnell Mooney. If I if I didn't like justin Fields and his passing moments ago, you can imagine I can't back his receiver. Even Darnell Mooney coming off a good season. You know, I think he's a

good players. As a special player, he's a good player, But I don't think he's got too much to overcome here, including drawing top coverage by opposing defenses on every down. Allen Robinson was there before to at least even out some of that. Now with him gone, defenses just have to take away Darnell Mooney. There's nobody left to pass two in this offense, and the old line is not going to give fields time for Mooney to get open

or deep. I don't hate Darnell Mooney, but at his average draft position, I can get Adam Feeling, who as we already described as fifteen touched out upside. That's our guy, so we are not touching. I'm not uh touching Darnell Mooney. You definitely don't hate him. You were one of the early ones I was. I've got him on a variety of teams, Dynasty teams from last year. Okay, let's go back to uh the tight end position. Blacklist tight ends, man, let's go back to Chicago, because I'm not drafting Cole

comment at all this year. I'm mostly piggybacking on charges take on Fields and Mooney here, but this just could be a legendarily bad offense. Fields might not survive bying this offensive line. And if he doesn't, do you feel confident in Trevor Simeon or Nathan Peterman getting Cole Commit the ball? And speaking of offensive, this line is so bad that you might have to think that Commit might be forced to stay in and block more than anyone wants.

It's getting tough to take any Bears this year. I'm dropping Commet down further down my cheat sheet. Alright, your blacklist tight end Scott actually kind of committing. There's reasons to like him because he's one of the only options, but that team is so bad that it doesn't matter. There's gonna be twenty to thirty past attempts. It's got to go somewhere right to the ground that could be could be uh tight end. I'm going with t J Hockenson. I mentioned it before. He he didn't have a single

target in the red zone last year. But this is a pure a DP play. Um he is going. He is going like as the sixth or so tight end off the board. He's going in the same exact range as Dalton Schultz, who we talked about last week. We think he's got a hundred plus targets. M zach Ertz even going around after him way safer. And then then there's some late round tight end stabs you can take. Um, he's just gonna fight with Swift and Almron even when like he those were those guys were out or not

productive last year. Hawkinson wasn't a very reliable tight end even even win Swift exactly so with them healthy and d J Charkinell, I just I just can't do it all right. My blacklist tight end is Dawson Knox. A touchdown dependent eight end is extremely dangerous. Look at Robert Tonyan is exhibit A from last year. At this time last year, he was coming up from eleven touchdown season. We're like, well, okay, he'll regress a bit, but I'm still gonna get like, you know what, eight touchdowns on

a Tony and you got one. Granted he went, he had an a c L mid season and then hand from the average play on one hand and one leg, the average non touchdown game from Dawson Knox two and a half catches for twenty nine yards. That's five PPR points and that is how you get chopped in a guillotine league. Right there, Dawson Knox my blacklist tight end. When we come back, final segment, we'll talk through vacated targets and identify our favorite sleepers for this week. Final

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All right, gentlemen, let's dive into our final segment. We always do our sleepers. Let's let's start there with our Sleepers of the week. We do one of them every week. Let's begin with Let's go to Matt first, d j chark Wicky Wicky. Uh he's lost big chunks of the last two seasons with injury and by being in Jacksonville. Uh. Not that relocating from the Detroit of Florida to the Detroit of the United States is much better the actual dijazz, But here we go. Um. Detroit's got a top five

offensive line this year. The lines of good weapons all around with Chark, Swift, amanros St Brown, T J. Hockenson, etcetera. When Jamison Williams returns, that makes that offense even stronger. Chark will never ever see a double team this season at all. His last healthy season with Gardner Minshew as his quarterback, he put up over a thousand yard and eight scores. And in fact, in his career he scored

a touchdown on ten percent of his career catches. So if he has I don't know, ninety catches this year, he's going to score nine times. You could have picked a number. But but let's say scores he gets sixty catches this year. I think that's reasonable. Do you have six touchdowns? They have six touchdowns and that's a that's a player that you can play in some weeks. Absolutely, all right, d J. Chark first sleeper Scott. Yeah, I like going bottom of the barrel, last pick of your

drafted It did last week enough for you? No, No, he's not, he's not. In previous years, I did stuff more in the mid teens that you know, they had good a better hit rate. But I like, I like these bottom of the barrel ones. I'm going with Kyle Phillips, Tennessee's slot receiver who has looked unstoppable in camp. He's breaking everybody's ankles literally, all the DBS, Slider the bones style, shattering the bones in preseason games, broken ankles for the

dvs on coaches. Watch the tape they break. I just broke my left ankle, hawking about Actually you would sprain that is totally true. Yes, but he's got that slot roll uh slot rolled down. It's his job. He's the starter and uh. They the Tennessee Titans passed to the slot at one of the highest rates in the NFL last year. Obviously, last year they had a J. Brown playing this um. But he's there, slot guy. And if you don't, if he doesn't pan out, you can drop him.

You don't care. It's your last pick. It's your absolute last pick of the draft. Kyle Phillips Kyle Phillips ankle breaker for the Tennessee type, chattering and you need to keep him away from you. I really very dangerous, great brain, terrible ankles. You know, I think great. It might get a little strong. I mean I was gonna be nice. I do wear a great Scott shirt from Time's Back to the future one Houston quarterback Davis Mills. You guys know how I feel about him. Um, and part of

it goes back to the draft. I liked him in the draft passing californ I don't get at some point, you just your eye test goes this guy belongs in the NFL. If you watch Davis Mills, and I don't blame if you didn't watch much of the Texans last season. Uh, Davis Mills repeatedly passed the eye test as an NFL caliber quarterback. There's no doubt Houston knows it. They didn't make any move at quarterback. They're going forward with Davis

Mills as as as I believe they should. His stats weren't like mind blowing, but I bet they were way better than you thought they were. Last year. From Week five forward, Davis Mills average game two hundred forty five yards, which is pretty good. One and a half passing touchdowns per game, also pretty good if you were to just expand that to the full season, because obviously didn't start

the year they at Tirod Taylor. There. That puts Davis Mills last year as a rookie on a four thousand yard passing season in twenty three touchdowns that would have made him quarterback seventeen last year. Davis Mills going off the board right now is quarterback twenty nine. He was seventeen. Is a rookie he started. I'm kind of utterly shocked the charge that you are so on the Davis Mills train when your least favorite offensive coordinator, maybe of all time,

Poop Hamilton's that's his offensive coordinator. I'm I want to believe he ruined Andrew Lucky? How can he How can he make Davis Mills successful? If he ruined Andrew Luck? Are we Texans fans in this? I was on Niko CON's all. I wouldn't shut up about him last year. Brian had him as his sleeper. And now like nicknamed him or something. You're you're you're you know, we're all in on Damian Pierce. But you were really early on Damian pre draft. Yes, you were in on Davis Mills

last year. I wanted the Vikings the draft him last year. Like are and we always think Brandon Cooks is under it? Are we Texans fans we think we are? We are? I'm not I'm buying low. I'm buying on the dip. Everybody's like, I don't, I don't. I don't think that. I don't think there's a dip there. I think I think they world is coming with you, guys. Jordan is also every single player. What about Chris Cotton? Just drafted Texans? Chris for the three times a year he hits charge

will tell you what will Texan stack? All the way. There's a lot of reasons to believe Davis Mills will be better in his sophomore year. Better coaching staff, right, that's gonna be one of them, including Abe Hamilton's Yeah, let's hope that's the case. Good lord, But he did for Justin Air Bear. You do something for justin Air Bear?

Did he really? I think if he was good. If Davis Mills was good on pace for a four thousand yards season with twenty three touchdowns as a rookie, let's just put him at a slight increase about thirty yards a game and about point three touchdowns better per game this year. Now he's sitting at hundred yards twenty eight touchdowns, and he's quarterback twelve. If he's going to average out to quarterback twelve and you're in a twelve team league,

half of his games. He belongs as a starter in the as a starter, and he's going off the board his quarterback twenty nine Davis Mills another, think about it, pick two hundred thirty three of your draft. You know, I take it all back. Pep Hamilton's did have a career win loss record of three and two in the XFL as the head coach of the DC. Don't you forget it? Yeah, I take it all back. What was the d C? The DC defenders almost as bad as Commanders,

honestly couldn't that terrible team. But we don't have to get sidetracked on that. Scott is Texans much better, like if it Minnesota, Minnesotans like that is pretty weird. But that's a legacy name, right, so I'll give it. I'll grant them. Hughston was trying to Huston was trying to get the grandpa's who remember the original Texans and didn't then become Cowboys fans in the seventies and eighties when the Cowboys rolled up all of those Super Bowls and nineties.

So I think that was it was a very slim group. Honestly, that's what you do when you when that demo of like the seventy nine year old guys, we gotta get them. Yes, Okay, let's talk about vacated targets, Scott. How about let's just go right back to the Texans. Tex we're gonna talk if we're gonna talk about vacated targets and touches, this is in targets exactly. But they got rid of two hundred got rid of They just threw about the door

two hundred and forty carries and sixty two running back targets. Wow, that's over three hundred by my math. And I'm struggling to figure out who can pick up the majority of that work? Who who would it be? Who could pick up the majority of three hundred potential running back? That could Beams. I'll mention this. They haven't shown it yet in the preseason. Dude can catch and that's the part

of his upside that everybody's he's a good runner. I will say, you watched the film, he he catches decently downfield, etcetera. He didn't have a lot of catches, but he can catch. Yes, didn't have a lot of rushes in Florida at Florida either, which is mind boggling things. I think they probably misused him there, but that's just me. So the team that

lost the most targets last year the Tennessee Titans. Obviously, with the trade of A. J. Brown and other people leaving, they brought in Trailing Burks is going to take up a decent amount of that. They brought in Kyle Phillips, who's gonna take He's got, He's gonna take up a lot of that. But honestly, I feel like that target number is a little high. This is one of the

reasons that I don't love vacated targets at times. But that three it was so high because Derrick Henry went out and they were they were passing in the second especially a lot of passes to guys like Hillyard and stuff that just won't happen this year. But even if you tamp that down, Trailing Burke's and Kyle Phillips and Robert Woods should be splitting a pretty decent chunk of targets. I love that you used the word tamp Thank you. Yes, you never hear people use that. I love it because

because nobody smokes a pipe anymore. One was the last time you saw anybody smoke a pipe, and traditionally the tamp. The only tamping I know of is with pipe smokers tamping down their tobacco. I stilling about regular pipes. One at the Sherlock Holmes style. I still say champion at the bit too, instead of chomping, champion, thank yourectly. It's one of my pet peeps. It's champing, thank you, chomping,

thank you you champ at the bit exact charge. I think you should take up pipe smoking as a hobby. Really you want to give me cancer? Well, I think Matt honestly, with getting orange pipe with the glasses, an copy a corn cob pipe called church in corn cop pipe. I like three or four years ago I saw a guy driving with a pipe in his mouth. But that's the last time. I can't. I don't, I can't. I don't know. Twenty years I've seen one guy with a

pipe never Uh. Some other notable ones. The packers lost two four targets, mostly Davante Adams, but also you know st Brown and Mbs and everybody. A lot of players left. Um the clear winner of that is Alan Lazard. He him in his six five frame. UH should be able to you know, take take up a lot of that and believe it or not, Lizard actually started to hit last season. He had a five game stretch where he had five touchdowns and nearly three yards near the end

of the season. There it kind of started to take off for him. Then Alan Lazard scored a touchdown on tent of his receptions last year. It's pretty good. That's really good. I get this feeling we're gonna be having a show around like week three, We're like, who do you really regret you didn't draft? And we're all gonna be like, we have I passed on alimis Art four times? That didn't I have Wait, I'm over No, I have

way too much of it. That's because A. J. Dillon who was in your league told you all about him. He did not. I should have asked, Why didn't I ask? He did? Drest he did? Draft? Uh Ellen Lazard any Aaron Rodgers so a little biased. They lost thirty six percent of their inside the tent targets as well, with the big bodies of LAZARDE Dubbs. That's that's kind of nice. Over to the Chiefs. The Chiefs lost the most targets. Yeah,

the most targets. Yeah, I was combining targets and touches for a second, but yeah, they lost the most targets. Two sixty five wide receiver targets alone, UM a lot of that. I honestly think it's going to be replaced with Jujuice Mith Schuster. Not obviously two sixty five, but he has been the talk at camp. He's been going deep and we're just a couple of years removed from two years in a row where he's in the hundred fifty target range. He can be a volume guy. He

can be a volume guy. He didn't score a lot of touchdowns in that because he was more of a slot guy and they had other weapons. They don't have a lot of other weapons. If we end the season and Juju Smith Schuster is a hundred fifty plus target guy, I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be shocked if he jumps right back into that top twelve wide receiver range. I'm imagining it's like Week three and we're doing Fantasy football weekly and we're saying to ourselves, I passed on

Schuster four times, how did you receive this? Tyreek Hill left? We got Juju Smith Schuster who we've looked at for the last couple of years. But forget that his first two years in the league he was absolutely ridiculous and absolutely high volume. And now he's the number one guy for Patrick Holmes. Yeah, unless more turns out to be this is turning into a could be wrong guy for

Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. What are you say? Is right? Yeah, they're they're also boring ones like the rad has lost a hundred and eighty nine wide receiver targets and he's gonna get That's what I put He's gonna get one of those targets that were replaced on that one. Um. Another one I find interesting is the Chiefs lost fifty seven running back targets and a hundred and fifty seven running back carries. That is a lot of works. Isn't

getting all that? Oh No, he's no, your kids serious, He's not going to add two hundred and fourteen touches to his UM. But here's the thing, Jet McKinnon, I don't know that he holds up. He's thirty one years old, He's not. He looked great in small doses in the playoffs. I don't think he holds up. We got a seventh round rookie in Isaiah Pacheco, who I actually really really like. We got Ronald Jones, who seems to be a cut candidate, despite you know, the loose usage in the last preseason game.

I think in the seventh eighth round where c H is going, we might be undervaluing what kind of volume he might actually get because he is the clear cut number one running back there. He's going at a discount you'll never buy. You know. Clyde Edwards A Layer was a his rookie year when he got drafted in the first round. Ever, he's very excited. Totally misread this. You know this my eating crow. We misread was the pass

catching going away. Yeah, that's where he did in college, right, And I thought he was sitting on like fifty receptions, sixty receptions, seventy receptions. We thought he was gonna be Austin Neckler. Did none of that panned out? First rounder three years ago. Then Clyde Edwards A Layer dropped to

what like the fourth round last year. Now, if you want to me and get him seventh round, say, feels like the price is finally right on Clyde Edwards A Layer, all Right, any other VACA, vacated targets, vacated carries you want to discuss, guy, I think the most obvious ones are ones like the Falcons who are are right near the top of the league in targets they lost and carries they lost. It's pretty clear what's happening there. It's gonna be Drake Lennon taking over the Ridley role. It's

gonna be Pits expanding at the running back role. Patterson, we've already talked, we don't think it's going to be him. So right now, where Damian Williams is going and Tyler are going in in in drafts, there's two hundred plus touches to the running back position that are just gone from last year, and we've already said Cordarrell Patterson probably isn't taking it. No, we know, we know Damian Williams is kind of just a guy. Yeah, That's why I like Tyler l Jeer just, you know, because maybe it

turns out he's really good. Once again, he drafted himself. He believes in himself. He's close to the situation personally. Now, when did he draft himself? I think it was at a fair value. I think it was like twelve rounder, and so he didn't take himself in the first round, just stuff like because I'm me. No, No, he checked out a DP, he knew about where he did. He give himself a reason he might have given himself around, gave himself a reach out. Scott Fish on Fantasy Football

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