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The Rookies You're Getting Wrong

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We've analyzed America's rookie dynasty drafts, and Charch and Brian have identified which players you're getting right and which players looks much more dangerous. 

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2

Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now, here's your host, Paul Chargian.

Speaker 1

Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchi and co host today Brian Johnson.

Speaker 3

What's up Chart? Welcome back.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Oh, it's good to be back. It took a pretty leisurely camping trip, which I had really never done before and just kind of really disconnected, got away from cell service, away from the internet.

Speaker 3

As it was nice off the grid, not you.

Speaker 1

Know, mostly off the grid. A lot of our campsites had no service of any kind, and you know, I don't know if I could live like that, but it was awfully nice for a little while. I can tell I can tell you that much. That part was great.

Speaker 4

And you're not gonna go off like, uh I forget the guy's name into the wild.

Speaker 1

No, Yeah, didn't get I don't think I want to. I don't want to spoil the end.

Speaker 3

I think he's been now long enough. Yeah, yeah, he didn't. It didn't end well. No, it did that way amazing book. I read the book. The movie. The movie was good, but the book.

Speaker 4

The books are always way better almost, but they left out They always leave out a ton.

Speaker 3

But the movie wasn't bad, but the book was great. Who started into the name, I can see his face?

Speaker 1

You can, I'll go, I'll IMDb that. You tell me if you can figure it out?

Speaker 3

No, hirsh yes.

Speaker 1

Vince Vaughan. Yeah, he was like, did he play the bear? He?

Speaker 4

Uh no, he was just like one. So the story goes, He's like, uh, he's lived in Atlanta, successful, he just graduates college, but he's just like fed up with society already at like twenty one years old. So he just wants to go up to Alaska. And Vince Vaughan was like his boss. Uh along the way, you know, he had odd obs here and there, and vince vin' vaughn was kind of his boy for Vince Vaughn was in it.

Speaker 1

Who directed it? Sean Penn, director Into the Wild.

Speaker 3

I did not know that.

Speaker 1

I would not have guessed that.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 4

The soundtrack was phenomenal. Eddie Vedder pretty much produced and recorded really yeah. He solo songs by Eddie Vedder most of it soundtrack.

Speaker 1

This thing had a ton of stars in it that I did not remember. Kristen Stewart, Zach Galafanakis, that's Emil Hirsch, William Hurt, Marsha Gay Harden. That's some you know, for a story about a guy who's alone in Alaska, you wouldn't think there'd be so many stars in it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's a heartbreaking story now thinking about it, it's depressing it. You're not recommending, No, I'm not. I would read the book though, I reading Into the Wild. It is the same guy who wrote Black Hawk Down.

Speaker 3

I believe great. I can't remember his name yet right out.

Speaker 1

You know what, that Black Hawk Down has a very special place A handful of movies are like this has a very special place for home theater nerds. It's considered one of the great audio movies of all time. And so for the people who build their big home theater and they got you know there, they're eleven point two point two systems set up. When they want to test the sound, they go black hawk Down.

Speaker 4

I might be wrong about the black Hawk Down, but John crack Hour is the author. He also wrote Into Thin Air, which is oh you're.

Speaker 1

Thinking of into Thin Air and not into the Wild.

Speaker 4

No, No, he wrote both. He wrote into the Wild, they did into thin Air, but he didn't write black Hawk Down. I don't know why I thought that anyway.

Speaker 1

Today's topic not necessarily any of that, but I did.

Speaker 3

I did.

Speaker 4

I could do a whole podcast on that, like movies that people love where the book was just so much better.

Speaker 3

I could talk about that all day, but we won't.

Speaker 1

You're trying to just convince people that you know how to read, and I don't think that they're gonna buy that.

Speaker 3

I barely. I don't read books anymore.

Speaker 1

But I've never seen you read a book in my life.

Speaker 3

Who do you read a book other than like your wife like like read like. I've never seen you read a book and I've known you for no.

Speaker 1

Well, that's because I do most of my reading in bed, and you usually are not in my bed.

Speaker 3

Usually, No, not night.

Speaker 1

Today's topic is the Rookie Dynasty average draft position. We have called the average draft position that you America have put into your dynasty leagues, the average draft position that you're selecting. We are going to tell you whether or not the players you're taking are you taking them too early, too late or just right makes sense?

Speaker 4

All right, and uh we should specify this is one quarterback format.

Speaker 3

We are referencing one quarterback.

Speaker 1

That's right.

Speaker 3

I know there's a super flex lead.

Speaker 1

If it's super flex, it gets so much simpler because then it's just Bjeon Robinson and a bunch of quarterbacks and then other players. Let me ask you this, just to put super flex put a bow on super flex. In super flex, is b Jon Robinson still the first.

Speaker 3

Pick in most cases?

Speaker 4

Yes, but if you're like really rebuilding, you can make a case for Anthony Richardson just because of the ridiculous potential upside. Yep, but I still think you gotta go with Bijon or or you shop the pick, or you know, you essentially trade Bjon Robinson for a haul down down the line. But uh yeah, Richardson is the one guy you can make a case for.

Speaker 3

Its super flex.

Speaker 4

But this is the rare occurrence where a running back is pretty much the consensus number one in one quarterback and super flex or two mandatory quarterback formats.

Speaker 1

In super flex, I'm taking Anthony Richardson. Here's why. If I've got the first overall pick, my team's probably and Bjhon Robinson is not going to single handedly propel me to a championship. So I'm already thinking two and three and four and five years down the road. Well, the lifespan of most running backs, even really good ones, it's like three years, four years. You know, if you are really really good, then it can be like five and

six years. But quarterbacks, wide receivers can be special for a long time. And I just foundationally build my dynasty teams around quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends because great ones are good for a decade. And that's why I might take Anthony Richardson in a super flex first overall, I'm rebuilding anyway. Richardson's not probably gonna do a lot this year, but he could be so special down the road. He could be eighty rushing yards a game.

Speaker 3

Yeah, whatever he throws for, I can't fault you for it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. But it's either it's either Richardson or Beijon in a super.

Speaker 1

Flex super flex. All right, so let's talk now on super flex. We're gonna go through the first two rounds players and tell me if you think America's got it right by your ADP. The first player being selected Bjeon Robinson.

Speaker 3

Uh, that's it's right.

Speaker 4

I mean, there's you cannot make a case for anyone else in one quarterback league. And we've talked about Bijon a bunch this offseason. Just he's an elite talent, special prospect, like a Saquon Barkley Adrian Peterson type, great landing spot, probably one of the best landing spots possible in Atlanta recept Except for what.

Speaker 1

Arth Is Arthur Smith going to continue a rotation of backs like he has every other year we've seen in Atlanta? Or is Bijon Robinson simply so good that he's gonna do what he did with Dereck Henry in Tennessee.

Speaker 3

I think I'm leaning towards the latter.

Speaker 4

Consideringly spent the ninth overall pick on Like, yes, Tyler Aljier had over a thousand yards last year, he was a fourth fifth round pick. Imagine, give Bjon Robinson eighty percent of the touches. He's going to have much more than a thousand rushing yards. He's a two thousand combo yards type talent.

Speaker 1

It gets a lot more controversial. Beginning as early as pick number two, America is taking Jamiir Gibbs second. Overall, the Detroit running back. Is this the right spot? Is this too high? Too low?

Speaker 3

So let's just.

Speaker 4

Take a step back about a year ago, even two years ago, it was like, you want to get as many twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3

Draft picks as possible. This draft class is loaded.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we're only on the second pick and we're already questioned it and we're in the stinkhole already basically at number two.

Speaker 1

There's a lot of ways you could go as early as number two.

Speaker 4

So I still think it's right. I you know the Lions story. You know, it's a new regime. You can't go too deep in the past. But the Lions whenever they've sunk significant draft capital. And by the way, they did that with Jamior Gibbs, they moved.

Speaker 3

From six to fourteen in the draft or twelve.

Speaker 4

They said they were gonna take Gibbs at six if they weren't able to trade back, which would have been before Bijon Robinson, Yeah, that wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 3

But I don't know.

Speaker 4

His role is gonna be like this hybrid running back wide receiver role. It's kind of it's gonna be like DeAndre Swift was who didn't do much.

Speaker 3

We all know Jamal.

Speaker 4

Williams vultured all the rushing touchdowns last year, Detroit signed David Montgomery, So short term, I'm a little nervous about Gibbs, especially non PPR leagues, but he should have a fine year, especially with Jamison Williams.

Speaker 3

Jameson William Jamison.

Speaker 4

Why did don't want throw Williams Son on the end of that, I don't know why, but anyway, suspended the first six games.

Speaker 3

I'll throw this out here real quick. I think DeAndre.

Speaker 4

Hopkins, who was released today, we should mention that, okay by Arizona. I think Detroit is a likely landing spot for Hopkins. Now if that happens at things Gibbs, what about the Chiefs, Yeah yeah, yeah, they hadn't got the money, I'm sure.

Speaker 1

On the Packers, I mean, how how you put DeAndre Hopkins, who's you know, a Hall of famer who knows how to prep you know everything there is to know about being a professional wide receiver into the Packers' locker room with all of those young receivers that don't know Jack, you know, they don't know anything about how to be a great receiver, and I don't I'm guessing they didn't get a lot of help from Aaron Rodgers about how to be great. Christian Watson doesn't know, Romeo Dobbs doesn't know,

Jayden Reeves doesn't know, Grant Dubois does not know. I mean, you know, there's there. I think that would be I think the Packers would be a very very intriguing landing spot.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Kansas City, though, that would just blow the top off the whole Fantasy football in general peak. That would move Hopkins into first round territory.

Speaker 1

Right now as a cardinal. In my when I woke up this morning, I had DeAndre Hopkins ranked fortieth because Tyler Murley wasn't gonna start Colt McCoy, you know, not knowing what that timeline is and knowing that Hopkins didn't want to be there. It's they're in total rebuild mode in Arizona and he didn't want to be there. So I'm like, Okay, this thing sucks. Now, this landing spot could vault him into the top fifteen.

Speaker 4

What about Minnesota don't have the money, yeah, and he's gonna want something.

Speaker 1

I mean, I think in the perfect spot like Kansas City he'll take less. DeAndre Hopkins will But anyway, let's get back. Let's get back, h Let's get back to the good stuff. And specifically so Gibbs's.

Speaker 4

I think it's right, but I'm not super it's this wasn't the ideal landing spot for me, even though they drafted him so high. They love him clearly, but he's he's not to the second overall picking a non PPR league. That's for sure for me.

Speaker 3

There has to be a PPR. Ask.

Speaker 1

Can you give me the touchdown total for Jamiir Gibbs this year because this is my big concern. This team went away. They want a They wanted more of a power runner at the goal line. I think that's David Montgomery, Oh for sure. So I'm worried Jamiir Gibbs is gonna have to gore from distance and historically we know that puts you on two to like seven touchdowns.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I put is over under total touchdowns rushing receiving five and a half right now, maybe six and a half.

Speaker 1

That's that's part of the problem for Gibbson the third overall pick by America and Rookie Dynasty ADP Drafts, Jackson Smith and Jigba goes goes to Seattle, where he joins an already accomplished group with Tyler Lockett and DK metcalf is the third pick overall. Is that too high, too low or just right?

Speaker 4

I think it's a little too high because he's the he was the best wide receiver in the class, considered by most to be that in Jigba, but uh, you know, he's not like the Jamar Chase type guy coming out or Justin Jefferson, even though Justin Jefferson over exceeded expectations big time by everyone. But uh, you know, he's he's the wide receiver three right now. And it's not a great spot for a fantasy purposes. It is for Geno Smith.

We won't get into that, but I love it for Gino Smith, but for JSN it's a little high for me. I for a short term option, I would rather go with Jordan Addison, who will get to in a minute. But so it's just a little high for me, just because he's gonna be competing for so many targets and they have a strong run game there. Yeah, now we'll

get into that in a little bit as well. So I just don't see a ton of volume for JSN here so and it just seems like a guy who might get off to a slow start and that presents a by low opportunity.

Speaker 1

I'm with you on that. I think it's a little bit high for him. And you know, I do believe that the Geno Smith we saw last year is a legitimate player. They sign him to a three year deal, but this thing is structured in such a way that the Seahawks could don't need to make good on the all three years for Gino Smith. And he's thirty two years old, which isn't terrible. He's still got still got

a little time left, so young thirty two. Yeah, he is a young thirty and Lockett is is sneaky old because it took.

Speaker 3

Him a long time late twenties.

Speaker 1

Yeah, as a undrafted as an undrafted free agent.

Speaker 4

Gino Smith, real quick, borderline top five finisher the quarterback position.

Speaker 3

Last year he's five six.

Speaker 1

That was quite that high, was it?

Speaker 4

In terms of total points? He was because he you know, some bigger names missed games, like Jalen Hurts, but uh, he's going quarterback sixteen seventeen agents, way way too late.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's too low right now in my rankings, I've got Geno Smith. Let's see if I'm guilty of this.

Speaker 3

I have him.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm guilty of it. I got him at sixteen. It's hard. It's hard.

Speaker 3

It is. A quarterback is deep.

Speaker 1

It quarterback is deep. I like, you know, Smith, and he's got more weapons now than he had last year. So maybe I need to rethink that a little bit.

Speaker 3

There's okay.

Speaker 1

The fourth player taken in rookie dynasty drafts Jordan Addison, Minnesota, Too high, too low.

Speaker 3

Or just right? I think it's a little too low.

Speaker 4

I would I would I prefer him over JSN right now, especially. I know we're talking dynasty drafts, but from a redraft perspective, I know JSN is going before Addison. That's crazy to me.

I'd rather have Addison, who walks into the number two role behind the best wide receiver in the NFL, who's still going to command a ton of attention, correct on a pretty past friendly offense, who we expect to score a superfluous amount of points, especially with an awful defense, which is great for fantasy purposes.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I like the Vikings play indoors. We can go.

Speaker 4

The list goes on, but so a little too low for me. I depending on you can make a case for him as.

Speaker 3

The number two pick this year in rookie drafts, you can.

Speaker 1

I like Addison a lot as well. The landing spot is pretty much perfect for him as he walks into the role vacated by Adam Thielen. The fifth overall selection rookie Dynasty drafts Anthony Richardson, going here our first quarterback off the board, and it's a running quarterback. Is this the right spot?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 4

One quarterback league. So quarterbacks definitely not nearly at a premium like.

Speaker 3

They are in super Flex.

Speaker 4

But the upside for Richardson is insane. There's danger there. But at this point in the draft, there's really after the first pick, like we said, there's really.

Speaker 3

No slam dunk studs or anything like that.

Speaker 4

So you might as well take a shot on Richardson, especially if you're finished, if you don't have one of the big five quarterbacks in Dynasty, why not take a shot on Richardson said, on him for a while to see what happens, and if you end up it won't be the lots of people the fifth pick in rookie drafts don't pan out a lot, So if it doesn't pan out, it's not.

Speaker 3

The end of the worst.

Speaker 1

Here the first one.

Speaker 3

You're shooting for the stars, and you might you might get there.

Speaker 1

The cautionary tale on Anthony Richardson would be Trey Lance, right. I you know, I was fully on board with Trey Lance because I love the landing spot and I loved all the talent around him in San Francisco. It has not panned out yet and probably won't pan out. Richardson similar in that you've got this crazy athletic build, You've got just the very very thin resume in college, and somebody who's got to spend a lot of time learning.

There's some you know, there's massive upside and downside with Richardson, which is probably why he falls to five. You don't have any of those concerns really with Gibbs Smith and Jigba Addison. So Richardson in five feels about right.

Speaker 4

But I don't think there's anyone who compares to Richardson, at least from his like combine testing when it comes to athletic prowess. I mean, he was like the greatest, not just not among quarterbacks, among like all players. Yeah, in terms of speed, agility, jumping.

Speaker 1

Just now, all he's got to is play. You gotta play.

Speaker 4

He's certainly got He's got to pass. Still, he's got to show some proficiency as a passer.

Speaker 1

The six pick in Rookie Dynasty drafts, according to America, Quintin Johnson from the Chargers. I'm not crazy about this rookie from a rookie dynasty standpoint. I don't know what the I don't know how much longer Keenan Allen's gonna hang on. You've always still got Mike Williams, who's under a long term contract there. I'm worried that it's gonna take a while for Quinton Johnston to get into a position to be a regular contributor for the Chargers.

Speaker 4

I was there with you all off season. I was I had concerns, and there's he has this stigma around him that he's a body catcher. But you can you can correct that, hopefully. I'm he's growing on me a little bit, so I'm gonna say it's a little too low. I think you can make a case of taking the him over Jackson, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. He's he's got like the Randy Moss size, which you don't really see a lot anymore.

Speaker 3

The only receiver, at least the receiver drafted with you.

Speaker 4

Know, that had a significant draft capital put into him, that has that kind of size. Got a great quarterback for the long term in Justin Herbert. I love Kellen Moore as of the new OC in l A. He loves the deep ball, which plays right into Johnston's game. And like you said, Keenan Allen, he's in his twilight years. Mike Williams has not been consistent from a health perspective, has struggled to stay on the field, so that there there are concerns, but I think they're they're I was

overlooking the upside for Johnson. If if everything falls into place for him, I think he could pay off big time and six could be a steal. Looking back in a year or two with.

Speaker 1

The seventh overall selection, America is choosing Zay Flowers in their rookie drafts. He goes to Baltimore where not a lot of competition. You've got Rashad Bateman coming off injury. He looks to be on track, and then Odell Beckham is a total wild card who I do not trust. You know back to back acls. It's just to me. I think it's a career for Odell. What do you think about this spot for Jay Flowers?

Speaker 3

Is this?

Speaker 1

Is this the right spot?

Speaker 3

I think it's the right spot right now.

Speaker 4

Hopefully they don't sign DeAndre Hopkins and then everything at least Flowers.

Speaker 1

Is really a pure slot corn a wide receiver.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, he's he's not. He's not your boundary type, even though we can play on the outside, but he will be uh running from uh the seams primarily.

Speaker 3

But it does feel right.

Speaker 4

It is really because new offensive coordinator Todd Monkin. Yeah, not Art. I'll never never live that down.

Speaker 1

That was a great bit.

Speaker 4

Should change the identity of Baltimore's offense, which has been run heavy for forever. It was like Monkin' uh, much more past friendly. So it feels like the right spot. And yeah, it should be an exciting offense. And he has the potential to be the leading wide receiver. I don't know if he's gonna outproduce Mark Andrews, but uh, we'll see.

Speaker 1

I think it's the right spot for a Flowers seventh overall, the eighth overall pick. I got a problem with and that's Dalton Kinkaid for Buffalo. Obviously, they love him. They took him in the first round. They loved Dalton kit they moved up a couple of spots to go get him in the draft. Uh, but I there's so many places for the ball to go in the Buffalo offense and at the stripe at the end of the day, especially at the tight end position, it really likes some touchdowns.

And I'm worried that Dalton Kincaid's got competition at his own position. He's got competition among his wide receiver group, and he's got of course, any time they're near the stripe, they don't need to throw to him. There's a lot of worries for me in Dalton Kincaid. That makes me feel skittish about taking him at eighth overall.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the hype is out of control. Even just from a redraft best ball perspective. He's like tight end ten right now. Going inside that he's really essentially a tenth round pick, which is crazy earlier. But yeah, everyone's, like you said, expecting him to play the big slot, not your prototypical tight end, which you love from a fantasy perspective. But like you also said, a ton of competition for targets.

Speaker 3

Buffalo, by the way, another.

Speaker 4

Place DeAndre Hopkins might end up. That would not be good for Kincaid. But for me, it feels right because there's just not a ton you know, there wasn't a ton of exciting players drafted before him in this MOXA, and there's not a ton after. So if he does turn out to be the next Travis kelcey you hit a grand slam. You just needs to be the next George Kittle even or Mark Andrews. It doesn't have to be Travis kelce next Kyle Pitts what Kyle Pits will be this year?

Speaker 1

At pick nine, America is taking rookie Zach Charboney, who goes to Seattle. Had Charboney had a different landing spot, he'd be going as early as pick two, Yeah, but they instead he got like the worst possible landing spot in Seattle. So is pick nine appropriate Zach Sharboney?

Speaker 4

It feels too high and yeah, from a fantasy perspective, this was the nightmare selection on NFL Draft Night, Just like what is going on?

Speaker 3

I mean, I guess in reality.

Speaker 4

From a reality perspective, it does set the Seahawks up nicely have two very young, that's right, great running backs, but from a fantasy perspective, it's it's the worst. Kenneth Walker's stock has plummeted big time as a result of this. Charbon Ay should He's built more for the goal line though than Walker, so I like that. You know, Walker he's inadequate, or you know, he's very serviceable near the

stripe too, but Charbona is he's a bulldozer. But man, this feels too high for what is going to be just like a fifty.

Speaker 3

To fifty split it appears to be.

Speaker 4

And yet also they drafted a pass catching specialist much later in Kenny McIntosh, so I don't see Charbone catching a ton of passes. But again, he probably gets more of the goal line touches but an awful landing spot.

Speaker 3

So this feels a little too high for me.

Speaker 1

My dream scenario was Cincinnati. Charboney goes to Cincinnati at the bottom of the first round and they just cut Joe Mixon. I'm a call god game on.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 1

If that had happened, he'd be inside by top ten overall running backs. He'd be the number two or maybe even number one. Selection. Even it had a Bejon Robinson potentially, but it didn't go that way. The number ten.

Speaker 3

You wouldn't have taken him over Beijon if you went to the Bengals.

Speaker 1

Come on, Zach Sharbonney. Yeah, oh I might have. Oh well, I get a way better offense. I get. I don't have a time share to deal with. I might have number ten, tenth overall pick in your rookie Dynasty drafts. Devon is I I thought it was a chain, but I four thinks it's a chain. A chain.

Speaker 3

It's called one chain, Devon a chain, one chains.

Speaker 1

There you go, one chain goes number ten. He ended up in Miami. This was a coveted landing spot for somebody. Is this the right spot?

Speaker 4

I have it as the right spot. I was leaning low, but I'm gonna go with the right spot. There is competition there in Jeff Wilson raheemoser, but not great competition. I don't know how much a chain is gonna factor near the strike. But he's really fast, he's a dynamic player. He can get catch the ball, so he's in a special talent. I can't foresee the future. I am a little concerned. Uh you know, there are rumblings Dalvin Cook most likely not going to be a Viking, even though

there have been rumbling rumblings that he could be. But if he ended up in Miami or anyone else did like Kareem Hunter, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournett, who were going to blow up some backfields eventually, this would be a little too high for me. But it feels right. But uh, and I'm leaning little, but I'll just go with right.

Speaker 1

I I bump him up a couple of spots, A chain a Chaine is the landing spots so good. And he's just got some special talent to him, and I want to have part of the Miami offense.

Speaker 4

Miami and Seattle should just swap sharbon a and each. That makes so much more, least for us fantasy football players, if you much better.

Speaker 1

Miami's all about speed, yep, in all respects. So I'm sure that was part of what they were doing. All right, Let's let's wrap up the first round. Bryce Young, quarterback number two, goes off the board to pick eleven nationally. Is is this the right sort spot? Does America have it right?

Speaker 3

I think it's too high. I just don't in a one quarterback league.

Speaker 4

I don't see Bryce Young cracking you know, the top twelve anytime soon. And now I'm not talking this season, I'm talking future seasons. I know he's a number one overall pick, but he's getting he's getting bashed for his size. You know, he's like a living meme at this point right now from the over seeing at practice, he's he's just he's so tiny. But uh, I don't know. I wouldn't in a one quarterback league. I would rather throw a dart at a running back or a wide.

Speaker 3

Receiver here over Bryce Young. He just doesn't excite me.

Speaker 1

I think he's a very good NFL quarterback who has thirty to thirty five touchdown upside. I love the arm and the decision making and the poise, and I just I think Bryce Young is in a spot to be a very good, consistent fantasy performer. Maybe not this year as Carolina tries to rebuild, but soon. And the last pick of the first round, New Orleans running back Kendry Miller fastening that he's going in the first round at pick number twelve. Is this the right spot for him?

Speaker 4

I initially said right, but uh, the more I think about it, I think it's a little too low. I know the Saints signed Jamal Williams, and then the fact that they drafted Miller.

Speaker 3

It leads me to believe that.

Speaker 4

They are expecting a suspension for Alvin Kamara. So I think, you know Williams, we know he's ultimate vulture and he probably will be that in when given the if given the opportunity in New Orleans, and I think they will give him the ball near the stripe. But uh, Miller, could you know, be the lead back at least while Kamara is out or even when Kamara comes back. So I think it's a little too low for Miller. I would certainly take him over Bryce Young if I was in this draft.

Speaker 1

We're going to take a quick break when we come back the second round of our rookie draft. Your rookie draft, this is your these are your rounds, this is these are these are the players you're taking when you're taking them. But are you getting it right? Are you getting it wrong? Round two coming up in a moment. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Brian Johnson with you round number two of America's Rookie Dynasty drafts. Jonathan Mingo going

first in the second round. He's the wide receiver, the big bodied wide receiver who ended up in Carolina. Is this the right spot for them him? Or is this too high?

Speaker 4

I was a little shocked or how early Mingo went in the draft, because I was doing a ton of best ball drafts prior to the NFL Draft, and not that the best ball community knows everything, but Mingo was not getting.

Speaker 3

Drafted really at all.

Speaker 4

He was like, if you saw me in drafted, it was like in the last round, like eighteenth depending eighteenth, nineteenth round, depending on a wherever sit you're playing out.

Speaker 3

But anyway, it feels a little.

Speaker 4

High to me, at least short term, because Adam Fieln's there. They signed DJ Shark, but feeling's not gonna be around forever. Chark is this kind of meh And Mingo, you know, he's somewhat of a raw talent, but he's a specimen, that's for sure. So the big body, I'm leaning high, but I'm close to right.

Speaker 1

I got worries about him. I didn't love the draft. I didn't love where they selected him in the draft. He's got the big body, but he's slow and he beat contested catches at the college level.

Speaker 3

To he's the next Kelvin Benjamin.

Speaker 1

I means I wanted him to be awesome, and he wasn't.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

He made big plays, But I just I don't know if Jonathan Mingo's style is going to translate to the NFL. I'm I'm worried about that pick. I like that he'll he'll be coupled with a young, promising quarterback in c J. Stroud, But I don't are sorry Bryce Young, but I don't. I can't say for sure that that's going to happen. I'm not I don't love the Mingo pick. Here, the second pick of the second round, Michael Mayer tight end goes to Las Vegas. They traded away Dalton Uh not

Dalton kin Ko. They traded away Darren Waller. They back filled his spot with Michael Mayer. Is the second pick of the second round, the right spot for him.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Foster Moreau also gone. The Raiders did sign Austin Hooper, but who cares about Hooper? Scooper?

Speaker 4

But this is still too high to me, just because from what I'm hearing, theyre is.

Speaker 3

Pretty much the best all around tight end. I don't want that when it comes to.

Speaker 4

Fantasy football, I don't want a guy that's good at blocking. Yeah, and basically, you know, guys like Sam Laporta is the more you know, athletic, flashier tight end. I think that's if I was going to take a tight end here, I would go Laporta. So it's too high for me.

Speaker 1

The good thing about being a blocking tight end is it keeps you on the field a lot. And you know, some of those blocking plays turned into receiving plays, and you know, you you know, because you're on the field, you're gonna get your number called a few more times. But I hear what you're saying. We really want talented receiving tight ends. And we'll talk more about Sam Laporta on a moment. The third selection of the second round,

America is choosing Kansas City wide receiver Rushie Rice. What do you think about this pick for Kansas City because of the landing spot. You know, nobody cared about Rice until he ended up being with the Chiefs. Now we care, and they've they made plenty of room by getting rid of several wide receivers in the off season, so Rice has got a pathway to playing time.

Speaker 4

What do you think they did acquire some wide receivers in the off season two though the Chiefs, but nothing too special. But like you said, it's always an intriguing landing spot in Kansas City. Like you also said, Rice, people were not expecting him to go this high in the draft. We'll just have to see how it goes. I guess I'll say it's right.

Speaker 3

Just I don't know.

Speaker 4

I said high initially. I'm gonna stick with my gun to say high. It's because I wasn't expecting to go this high, and I didn't. I didn't know much about him, not that I know a ton about all these rookies. But if he hits, it's a steal in the early second round of your dynasty draft.

Speaker 3

Because Travis Kelsey's not gonna play forever. And you know, the.

Speaker 4

Chiefs have no standout wide receivers are almost like tiny east lock Eyes, Sky Morcan areas Tony.

Speaker 3

You can't stay healthy. So they went the other way with Rice.

Speaker 1

Is a bigger body guy with ball skills, body control.

Speaker 3

All right, I just talking to myself, really right.

Speaker 1

Kind of a technician.

Speaker 3

I like him.

Speaker 1

Okay, you talked him here, Josh Downs wide receiver slot guy went to Indianapolis. They gave up on the Paris Campbell attempt with them, and they backfilled his spot with Josh Downs going with a fourth pick in the second round by America. Is this Are they getting it right?

Speaker 3

I got it?

Speaker 4

This is a little too low for me. I thought he was gonna go higher in the actual directo. I just do things I heard. You know, he's one of the best, supposedly one of the best route runners in this class.

Speaker 1

Dude's a gawler hand.

Speaker 4

Yeah, he just seems like a guy that's gonna get you six or seven catches on a weekly basis. Don't love the landing spot in Indye. There are some nice options at receiver there and Michael Pittman and now Pierce and we don't know what kind of pastor Anthony Richardson is going to be.

Speaker 3

But it's still a little too low for me.

Speaker 4

I prefer him over you know, I probably take Downs over Mingo, even though obviously America is not doing that. I would try to trade the Mingo pick and then take Downs later. But I feel like we're gonna look back and listen say that was way too low for Josh Downs.

Speaker 3

I think so too.

Speaker 1

I just you know, some guys just play so much bigger than their size, And I love that about Josh Downs, who just goes on the field and acts like he owns every ball. I just I love his intangibles. With the fifth pick of the second round, America is choosing Bears running back Roshan Johnson. Thor loves Roshan Johnson. He was like Kyla Herbert's dead.

Speaker 3

I that was a good Thorn impression.

Speaker 1

I am way more nervous about Johnson. What do you think about this spot?

Speaker 3

I think it's a little low.

Speaker 4

Maybe Thor got to me, but I was kind of high on Johnson before I heard Thor's adoration for real Shawn who was a backup to Bejon Robinson at Texas. If he wasn't backing up Bejon Robinson, you know, and he was getting you know, he was getting the majority of the touches. He could have been drafted much higher in the actual draft, which would have bumped him up in these rookie mocks. So I wanna go a little low.

And Khalil Herbert looked nice at times last year. I don't think he's gonna go away entirely, but Roshan should be the goal line back, one would think, and Thorn. I know Thor knows a lot more than I do about rookies, but uh, he thinks he's gonna run away with the starting job in Chicago.

Speaker 3

So I'll ride with my boy Thorp and say it's too low.

Speaker 1

Johnson's too slow. I'm just gonna say it. He's he's too plotting, he's too slow, and I'm worried about that translating to the NFL, you know, and the fact that he I think he averaged nine touches a game. You know, he was playing by b Jhon Robinson, So you know, Okay, granted, you're not gonna get a lot of work, but man, I don't know. I think there's a lot more danger

with Johnson. I'm nervous the sixth player America is taking in the second round in Dynasty rookie drafts our third quarterback off the board, c J.

Speaker 4

Stroud Too high for me here again in a one quarterback league. I don't see Stroud cracking the top fifteen for many years. If ever, there's certainly nothing exciting at the wide receiver position in Houston.

Speaker 3

Houston gave up a ton of.

Speaker 4

Future equity in the draft to move up to the third spot to take defender that I should know off the top of my head, but I don't. So they're down a pick where they could use that in future years on an elite wide receiver. And really, if I'm gonna take a quarterback here, I would take Levis because I think Levis has the He's got the crazy upside, the rushing upside, not saying he's going to hit it and not saying you should take Levis over Stroud in

the spot. But in a one quarterback league, I'd rather throw a Darta at a receiver, running back or even a a tight end over taking Stroud here.

Speaker 1

A seventh overall pick by America in rookie Dynasty drafts, and one that I do not like is Marvin Mims, who ended up in Denver, going seventh pick of the second round. He's an all speed guy. He's small, he's thin, he's not physical, he's straight line speed man. He's like John Ross. These guys never seem to pan out. I'm very nervous about that selection.

Speaker 4

It's like kJ Hamler was supposed to be or was in Denver envision. Yeah, he scares me from a you know, a standard format perspective. I don't mind him in best ball, where he'll have his spike weeks, I think, especially with Sean Payton now there. And I think Russell Wilson should rebound this year. He won't take much for him to do that, really, But so, I don't know this feels right to me here again the wells kind of the

well dried up a while ago. Everyone's almost you know, it's a lateral move between players here at this point in the draft. In me, so i'll say it's right for him.

Speaker 1

I think it's too low or too high. This is way too high for Hims. The eighth pick of the second round, tij Spears, who ended up in Tennessee, was not an ideal landing spot, at least for now. But if I were to ask you, Brian, at this time next year, it's Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3

A Titan, what do you say, Probably not?

Speaker 1

Probably not like for chance, he's a Titan, and that would clear the That would clear Taj Spears if you're starting running back for the Titans in a year. Yeah, And that's why he's too low and should go. He should go sooner than this.

Speaker 4

And the concern is, you know, the knees, not just knee knees. But I don't care running backs. The shelf life is short. If you get get a year or two of TAIJ. Spears being starter, Like, if he was fully healthy, didn't have all these red flags, he would be drafted way higher than this draft. So as of right now, he's healthy enough, So I'll take a shot on him, and towards the end of the second round, why not so as a little too low.

Speaker 1

I'm with you on that.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

The ninth pick of the second round, Detroit fills in for TJ. Hockinson with Sam laporta who arguably might be the most natural pass catcher at the tight end position in this draft. And this was a team that was scoring touchdowns and getting they were getting some play after Hockinson left from the likes of Shane Zilstra and Brock Right and nobody tight ends and they were still getting

some productivity out of it. I'm like, Sam laport is your day one starter, and I think he has a chance to be one of the few really impactful, meaningful, meaningful rookie tight ends.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we're in lockstep here.

Speaker 4

I said I would have taken easily taken him over a Mayor who went second in the second second pick of the second round. I would have taken him over Jonathan Mingo, who was the first pick of the second round, so the ninth pick in the second round that he got way too low for me.

Speaker 1

Jaden Reid in Green Bay is the tenth pick of the second round. In your America's Rookie Dynasty drafts, Jaden red plenty of opportunity if you're not familiar with his game. He's smaller, but he plays bigger than his size. Contested catches, good speed, footwork.

Speaker 3

I liked him.

Speaker 1

I liked a lot of what I saw looking at Jayden Reid. I didn't. I still felt like Green Bay took him a little early. But the landing spot is pretty darn good for Reid where he doesn't have a lot to overcome to turn into a regular starter.

Speaker 4

No, not a ton of competition for targets. It's really Watts. And I'm not sold on Dubs, but Dobbs Dobbs, Dostobs Dobs. But like you said, read he should be the starting slot wide receiver. And I saw that the Packers wide receivers have the easiest strength of schedule, especially towards the end of the season at Minnesota. By the way, Week seventeen see indoors again feels juicy, which should be a very ineptive Vikings defense. So yeah, a little too low

for me for Reid. But by the way, we talked about receivers that like we're going not even getting drafted in Best Ball formats prior to the NFL draft read, I didn't.

Speaker 3

Even heard of Jaden Reid until draft night.

Speaker 4

Like he wasn't on consensus rankings like top fifty, like at least in the top twenty.

Speaker 3

So I was kind of shocked to see him get drafted. But we'll see what happens now.

Speaker 1

The most egregious blunder America is making in their drafts pick eleven of Round two, Tank bigs B.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna let you take this away.

Speaker 1

I love I said, right Riley Star of your Star of OTA's tank Bigsby, he drops into a spot. We're sure they've got Travis Etn who I thought looked okay last year. We know Doug Peterson likes to run a committee backfield. Tank's gonna get on the field regularly. Now, is he gonna get twenty touches a game? No, but he's gonna get enough where you can be a you can spot start Tank Bigsby, and you know where he might get work goal line? You think you know Atn's

not exactly Larry Kinnebrew out there the goal line. This is gonna be Tank Bigsby is it has the chance to quietly put up meaningful numbers. And dude's good. I just I really liked what I saw in college from Tank Bigsby. And although landing spot isn't perfect, he's gonna get on the field, and he's gonna get on the field early. The last pick of the second round A player I'm nervous about Jalen Hyatt, but it seems to be baked into his he ended up with the Giants.

It seems to be baked into his ADP a little bit.

Speaker 4

Yeah, this seems just a little high to me. New York's got a ton of slot receivers. Not saying hilot, hilot, Jalen Hyatt isn't the best one. He probably is, but Wandale Robinson showed a lot of potential last year. I strilling Shepherd can stay healthy. There's just a ton of targets there. And you know, Darren Waller is the best receiver on the Giants and yeas obviously a tight end. So I just can't get excited about a Giants wide receiver,

especially a smaller one slot receiver, with this pick. There's other wide receivers that are were intriguing to me that

we haven't talked about. We won't get into it too much, but to certain better situations like at Perry's an interesting receiver to me in New Orleans, especially if Michael Thomas continues to Michael So anyway, I would have preferred to take someone over Jalen Hyatt here, even Tucker Craft tight end, he's he's in that and he was the second tight end drafted by the Packers this year, but he's the more exciting offensive weapon.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 4

I just would have gotten a little more creative here if I had this pick in this in this mock Hyatt, this does not excite me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm I'm very little interested in Jalen Hyatt. Okay, there you go. We've wrapped up two rounds, two full rounds, and by the way, almost everybody even have any interest in taking at this stage already accounted for here.

Speaker 3

Who I wanted to mention really quick.

Speaker 4

Wee we're talking to Hyatt, and now after we've talked about Hopkins DeAndre Hopkins, the longer on the Cardinals, they drafted a guy named Michael Wilson who I didn't know much about, and I still don't know much abound them, but now I'm gonna be looking more into Michael Wilson. Who Na it's like a fourth round pick.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and you're talking about the Cardinals.

Speaker 4

The Cardinals, Yeah, probably probably a starter as of right now. Or they got nothing to win. And I'm not gonna say they got nothing to lose. They got nothing to win. They got nothing to lose.

Speaker 1

So oh they did them try out everybody? Right?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean Rondell Moore is not a boundary guy. AJ Green's retired, Greg Greg George.

Speaker 3

He's a slot He's a slot receiver. So Michael Wilson, there we go. That's why I would have taken over to.

Speaker 1

Well, there you go, that's it makes sense. I mean, suddenly he's suddenly he becomes a quasi viable player, which is uh, finally, way finally that team addressed their offensive line.

Speaker 3

Cardinals, what took you so long? Michael Wilson from Stanford six foot two two ten third round pick.

Speaker 1

Yeah, third rounder, there you go. I wasn't expected to go that high.

Speaker 4

No, I was like, who is this milant draft light? It's like, why aren't they taking Josh Downs? I said that a lot.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

Nothn't like it target Michael Wilson later rounds. People aren't even thinking about it.

Speaker 1

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