Teammate Battles

Giarchi and my coast today are Scott Fish and Matt Harrison. Hello, guys, Hey, hey, it's we're only we're less than two weeks away from the start of the season, and they're so little news without the preseason games and with limited access to practices walk throughs. Uh. It's it's it's just a different world. And I get the feeling we're gonna be so wrong on so many things in week one. You know, I think normally we've got a reasonably good read. On week

it's gonna be Frisman Jackson everywhere. That's exactly right. And it maybe it's okay to be wrong. Who's the Cowboys read? I don't think that our listeners think it's okay for us to be wrong. Wrong. I meant they're wrong, not us. Yeah,

we won't be wrong about anything ever. On this show, we go through the news from around the league at the outset of all these preseason shows, and this is when we're trying to take little nuggets and gleaning little things from on site reporters and try to figure things out without the preseason games so we can normally use to get a better read on things. It is more challenging, but we're up to the task. Beginning with the Panthers, Matt The Panthers held an inter squad scrimmage that's hard

to say inter squad scrimmage on Tuesday. The only touchdown in the game was a Bridgewater fade route into the end zone to slot receiver Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, alright, Christian McCaffrey lined up in the slot on that play. They're going to be lining him up everywhere on the field this year. One point zero one in every draft, it's Christian McCaffrey. It's uh, it's pretty universal right now. Smith, John H. Smith. I respect that do Gardner Minshew things

taken off. There are people doing it skyrocket, But here's the thing. If you're doing it in a free league, don't bother tweeting me. It's gutless tweet me the picture, the photo of you of your draft room with you taking Gardner Minshew and your hundred dollar entry fee. There we go. Now we're talking. I think they're only giving away like two cases of beer for this too, So it's a sweepsticks still right now, they are giving a lifetime a year's supply away if you win your league

with it, if you how many how many people? A lot of people are going to do that. You know they can't. They're gonna be thousands of people that do that. You could rig your free league to make sure you went. It's probably just one they probably probably, I'm sure they Anyway, let's go to the Las Vegas Raiders. Uh, Tyrrelle Williams

torn labor. He's gonna try to play through it. But I've had one and it can't imagine trying to play through that and catch footballs, especially reaching up to grab football's. Um and Nelson l z Jones are supposedly in great shape and in football somehow. That's the real news is that they're still in football. Um, I think Tyroll Williams is undraftable, and I think, oh yeah, he's slid down to maybe the seventies or eighties in my rankings. Probably, Yeah, really,

I wasted your time because all three. We can talk a little bit more about that Raiders wide receiver position later. The Packers album was already is surging with big catches and practice and is sewn away the number two receiving job. He's being vastly underdrafted right now. His average draft position is one seventy five. And you've got a for sure number two. Yeah, for sure number two. Aaron Rodgers has got some miles loft. Don him. It's it's it seems odd.

Let's go to the Washington football team at Ben Standig of the Athletics says that Bryce Love is not a lock to make the roster and has been running with the second and third team in practice. Man who is on the first team, I think I read that is he's not a lot to be active on game days if they only start three. But either way, Adrian Peterson is splitting reps with Antonio Gibson with the first team

right now. Second team leader j D. Mcksucker, j D mcsucking, I will be stunned if he ends up being a material part of this offense. He's ahead of Bryce Love right now. Well, I've always there starter as the thirty six year old, so you might you might be Adrian Peterson's basically he's almost free in league. Nobody's taking him, and he's gonna be one of those guys where you draft him and suddenly you've got a flex player that you can start every week. He's gonna get seven touchdowns.

All right, let's go to Let's go to Buffalo Scott Josh Allen hoping to run less often, which is something fantasy owners loved. He he's mostly especially after you ran for nine touchdowns last year nine times. There it is there, it is the colt head coach Frank Right, there's more singletary battling, a bunch of fumbling issues and uh, Zack, really, you don't say Church is okay? With that interruption? That's

the lead story. Why would you not have Jack Moss news first alight standing rule for this show going forward if you have good Zack Moss News Smiths or John Smith News right to the top of the show, right to the open cold said coach. Frank Wright says that tight end will be a really really important dynamics. I wanted you to do your Frank Reich voice again. It sounded so really important dynamic for the team's offense. Yes, apparently he's marble mouse. Jack Doyle is you're likely starter.

Trey Burton could play the Eric Ebron. Remember Burton Reich we're together in Philadelphia, so they have a little bit of shared history there. Let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Chris Godwin returned from missing three straight practices earlier in the week, and if you're drafting a kicker, watch out for the Tampa situation. Right now. Elliott Fry and Matt Gay are locked in a battle. The winner will be part of a good offense and probably be a really

good kicker. But you might not want to draft them yet. You might want to pick them up after it's decided. Yeah, Tampa Bay scored the fourth most points in the NFL last year. You know whoever ends up kicking for them, you know, it's it's more about opportunity. It's a top five kicker no matter who wins. But we don't know who's gonna win. Let's go to the Cleveland Brown Scott Nick Chubb in concussion protocol, but it's a way un till the season, so he should be fine. He'll be fine.

The Chiefs general manager Brett Veach says that Clyde Edwards a laire is quote on pace to have a big year to be our primary ball carrier. Hell yeah, baby, that's what I want to hear. Even at this time of year when everybody's lying, I don't care because that fits my personal theress and I want information bias. Absolutely, let's go to the Detroit Lions. Man. The running back situation is a little bit messy right now. DeAndre Swift was held out of practice Tuesday and Thursday, and the

reasons were not disclosed. He did practice in a limited fashion on Wednesday, but carry on, Johnson's wearing a knee brace for confidence reasons, and even both Scarborough is limited to practice right now. It's a little dicey in that running back room. The New York Jets Scott, multiple Beat reporters, and Adam Gates have all said that Frank Gore is the best back in camp. But god, let's come to this, but watch out, watch out case traded for his boy,

Kalin Blage. How about everybody's reporting the Dolphins are going to just drop Palin Blage and Adam Gates coast whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. I will give you draft picks my beer. What the war the Rams. Last week we talked about Josh Reynolds holding off Van Jefferson, but this is a fluid situation. This week now Van Jefferson is getting so much praise and getting run with the first team offense, and from

time to time this could be a developing situation. And maybe for the time being, you can't draft either Van Jefferson or Josh Reynolds. But I still think start of the season Josh Reynolds. By the end of the season Van Jefferson. Let's go to the Seattle Seahawks. Matt Little running back news. Chris Carson returned to camp after resolving some personal matters. But Pete Carroll, Oh, let me do my Pete Carroll impression here. He said that, Hello, Gavna

Carloside will be a big factor. What I thought that was dead on Scott The Denver Broncos Vick van Jo after a couple of weeks ago saying that Melvin Gordon would be the lead back of the committee. Now he says, not so shure. I'd like I think we're in a position where we don't have a starter. I think that's closer to correct, to be honest. Uh, let's so, what's next, Oh, it's me the Vikings. Ola b C. Johnson looks like

you're opening day starter, opposite Adam Feeling. When asked about Justin Jefferson's development, Kirk Cousins migrated the conversation over to Ola B. C. Johnson, who he described as having maybe the best training camp of anyone on the team. And now Justin Jefferson has been fine, but b. C. Johnson has been in the system for a year. It's a big advantage this season. I think your opening day, your opening day starter is going to be Ola B. C.

Johnson at wide receiver for the Vikings. Philadelphia Eagles matt left tackle Andre Dillard suffered a torn biceps during Thursday's practice. He's out for the season. Luckily, they resigned former left

tackle Jason Peters to play guard. He's gonna slot over to left tackle now, and Isaac see Malu becomes the new left card All right, and to the New England Patriots, Scott Nearly everyone involved watching the Patriots practices, says day Damian Harris is standing out like a Zach Moss type player at this, let's not get carried away zat Moss. But Davis, he's your He's gonna be your starter, and it's gonna be the Andes Sony Michelle. Yeah, he's put in work with Michelle out. I'm glad to hear that.

For the Steelers wide receiver, rookie wide receiver Chase Claypool looks fantastic, drawing rave reviews, which could be trouble for somebody when they've got all these other receivers that want to get fed the ball. If Claypool ends up making an impact and getting into some some first team wraps, who knows, somebody's gonna be the odd man out. And I've talked before I get I get a little bit

worried about Maybe we'll talk more about that later. Dallas Cowboys Matt both starting tackles for the Cowboys are dealing with injury. Tyron Smith was limited on Thursday with a hamstring injury. L Collins has been sitting out after a hard crash beat Reporters expect both to be ready by Week one. Scott Tennessee Titans. This one's short Ryan Tannehill. The Derrick Henry has been working on his pass catching

and Tannehill sleazy looks really good and really confident catching it. Now, Yeah, I mean if if Henry is gonna catch, if he adds, yeah, if he he catches fifty passes, he's she should be the first player taking in the draft. Probably forty is almost every wide receiver has heard Kendrick Borne is basically the last man standing there. Um. The team has turned to wash outs like Kevin White for depth, but the hope is closer to the first game of the season,

they'll start getting some guys back. Kendrick Borne might be a sneaky pick up for you could do a Deebo Samuel super late because he's he's going got drafted at this stage because of people worried about the Liz Frank right, So you could do Deebo Samuel really late and then last pick your draft Kendrick Borne, and you've got a

San Francisco starting wide receiver. They think Deebo is gonna be ready for week one now they're they say, sprinting hard and practice and there's lots of good signs on debot. I hope. So, but you know, these Liz Frank injuries, We've seen this thing go three surgeries deep. So it's just my wife's had one for two years. Yeah, it's it is. She doesn't play for the forty Niners right now. She's on the wide receiver death chart somewhere, somebody is Matt.

Let's go to the Giant. Rookie safety Xavier McKinney underwent surgery on a broken left foot, hopeful to return in late November, and see Kwon Barkley limped off the field on Monday, didn't finish practice, but has been back practicing later in the week. But he did get a little dinged up in practice. We'll hope he fin I assume he's fine. Cincinnati Bengal Scott Joe Mixon has been missing practice due to what Zach Taylor says. He thinks his migraines.

That's interesting in a contract, how you not know? But yeah, that's exactly the point. He was threatening contract told out and he's missing practices. Uh a j Greenback and Joe Burrow is looking lights out in two minute drills. Yeah, Joe Burrow is going to be legit. I'm confident think he breaks seven. Baker may feel session record. I kind of want to bet the over. I think I kind of do too. I kind of do too, Ravens J K. Dobbins turning heads in almost every practice. He's expecting to

have a significant early role. I don't think we're gonna have to wait for him to get a lot of a lot of run here. I think he presses mark ingram for time, um really fairly early in the season. Gus Edwards is going to be the odd man out of this deal, almost certainly at lint of Falcons, Matt, Oh, I want to try another impersonation of offensive coordinator Dirt Cutter. You're ready, yes, hi hole, this is Dirk Cutter. I want Todd Gurwey to get at least fifteen touches per

game this year. Is that good? That was a Kermit the Frog. That was not No, that was totally Dirk Cutter. That was a Kermit the Frog. I'm pretty sure Dirk Cutter says hi ho every time he meets Yeah. Lakwan Treadwell also has a bad case of the drops, according to the Falcons website, So who does I'm sorry, Lakwan Treadwell. No, I don't think he's gonna make the roster. No, all

that's so bold? Oh, No, Scott the Chargers. Mike Williams could miss the season open or with the shoulder spring and Josh Kelly has been looking really good, my sleeper from two weeks ago. Uh, they now think he has the edge for the number two jobs. I think that's going to be the case right now. Mike Williams is hard to draft at all at this stage. Um, and I realized he may he may even be ready for the opener, but he was already a touchdown dependent guy

who's g gives you really hot. Average depth of targets like almost twenty tyrods is like nine. Yeah, that's a bad fit. Yeah, and we're nervous about that for sure. Let's our last. We have two teams left, and they're both Mats. The Cardinals. Kenyan Drake has been held out of practice with a foot injury and was seen in a walking boot earlier in the week. Oh, Chase Edmonds getting all of the first team loving right now? I think that's I think Chase is gonna get way more

work than people. And then how about David Montgomery for the Bears who slipped while carrying the rock and practice. They're calling it a strained groin and saying he's expected to be out two to four weeks. That does give him an outside shot of being ready for opening Day. Also, Adam Hogue of NBC Sports that it looks like Nick

Foles is pulling away from Mitch Rubinsky. Yeah. You know the thing with David Montgomery and this groin injury, if you bring him back, you know, groin injuries and running backs terrible combination and easily something that could end up being a ren aggravation to the injury if you're bringing

back too soon. They have virtually no depth at the position because three cones not gonna you know, He's not gonna be Maybe it might be Cordell Patterson or Spencer Ware, remember Naggie and Spencer Ware, but his together, I know, you know what I'd rather where on my team. I think at this day, well they could Jackson Jacks want picks. Maybe that's maybe that's what they end up doing here. When we come back this weekend, tons of drafts and auctions. You will get advice from all of us for draft

and auction day. This is a huge week for them. Coming up next Fantasy Football Weekly, Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul church In, Scott Fish and Matt Harrison with you. This is a huge weekend for drafts, auctions all this week. Really, we've got only two weeks left to get in your draft and auction, so this is this is a biggie,

probably the most popular week. So let's spend a little bit of time just giving draft day advice, whether it's a draft or an auction, the kind of advice that you want to do that people should hear as they're heading in to their drafts and they're trying to maximize it the most. You know, the two hours you're gonna spend in this draft. You gotta live with these decisions all year long. This is awfully important. Let's make sure

to get it right. Scott. Let's begin with you. I know that you, like me, prefer the auction or the draft. You're gonna focus largely on auction related advice. I've got a smack, I got a little everything over. What do you want to talk about? First? I was upset you had that nineteen percent question last week on three tough questions. Yeah, the question last week was is it a viable auction strategy to not spend more than nine percent of your

budget on any one player this particular year? Did you know My first ever article when I entered this industry for full time was a full article on auction strategy, and my main talking point was never spend over fifteen percent? So have you lived by that? I? I have lived by that, except for in bank roll leagues because they're a little different, but you know, there are different types, but in all other ones, I've absolutely lived by it.

Auctions are so fluid that I love the hard cap of a in a two dollar auction, when a player gets to thirty dollars, I'm just out. I'm out. And this year I wanted to focus on it this year, especially because it's so dang deep. But you don't have to spend over thirty on anyone. Let everyone waste their

money and is my long hard standing rule. So that's tip one on and you know what, to me, I couldn't live with that every year, but this year in the deepest draft I've ever seen, Yeah, having money and at the one hour mark of your auction is a really good spot to be in. It's pretty nice to run the board late an auction, is it ever? It's empowering.

It's like the best feeling when everybody's just scrambling and going, oh, please, don't take this guy for two exactly when you can control the board, it's a It is a lot of power you don't ever normally have. It's like if you were in a draft and you had every pick in the twelfth round of your draft. Yeah, well, to me, it doesn't feel like the twelveth round. It feels like the seventh round. One thing that that hard limit does and if you can stick to it, which you should,

it keeps you from price price enforcing and gain stuck it. Uh. It also keeps you avoids tilting. You're not gonna tilting. Yeah, so it's a good point. It calms you down in an and I've seen I've seen people tilt where they get in absolute and the next thing you know, you're way over here there. They're probably doing it with you, against you as they're looking at your cheat sheet and the action people knowing your strategy will bid thirty one

just to fight price yard. I don't care this has happened to me because my cheat sheet is available for free com and so I'm in an auction. People are holding my sheet and looking at me and raising my bids because they've got my maximum in front of them. They know what they know exactly what I think. I blame Brian Oak. I think you should he said you've done it to me before. Uh Matt from Draft Advice, So I I kind of went all in on the drafts and I just wanted to kind of go over

my Gainesville strategy again. The three five two that's the area code of Gainesville, Florida. That's where it gets the name. Chart likes to call it undo the option. And someone just tweeted us while we're talking about under the opposite, So I think that's catching off undo the opposite if

there's ever a year to undo the opposite. This. So the strategy dictates that you take running backs with your first three picks, wide receivers with your next five, and then two more running backs in rounds nine and ten. That's the three five two um. So that means you leave the first ten rounds with zero quarterbacks, zero tight ends, five running backs, five wide receivers. And why would you do this? The depth of the players at certain positions

is so weird this year. There's so many good deep quarterbacks, there's so many good deep tight ends, and the wide receivers and running backs in rounds four through eight. That's what it's all about for me and this so get this. Here are the running backs available in rounds four through eight. Chris Carson, who I like, David Johnson, Levy on Bell, Raheem mostart mark Ingram, James Conner, Devin Singletary, David Montgomery.

There's lots of question marks there. But if you look at the wide receivers that go in rounds four through eight, and only eleven wide receivers are going in the first three rounds, It's A J. Brown, It's Cooper Cup, Allen Robinson, Adam Feeling, d J. Moore, Calvin Ridley, the list goes on and on. It's absolutely insane the value you can get in those middle rounds with wide receivers right now

and come out with three stud wide receivers. And that's why I want to keep doing the Gainesville the three five tree to um. I think there's a lot of too too with this this this particular year. It's the way it works out, and we're really seeing running backs. Running backs are going hard and early, and if they're they're they're tapping out faster than wide receiver. Buy a lot.

This particularly well and one more thing quarterback and tight end easy to you can get at tight end in round eleven Hayden Hurst, t J Hockenson, MIKESICKI, John U Smith Just stop at John. I got Gardner, Minshew and Joe Burrow in the fourth rounds of an IDP draft yesterday. Yeah, well cut in half twelve team what quarterback like you said Roethlisberger, Minshew, Cam Newton, Joe Burrow, Tannehill, Cousins like

you can get. There's good quarterbacks, um, and I guess my first bullet point on this discussion about what to do. Today's your draft day, your auction day. You're listening to the show getting prepped up. This is the year to just try something new. Maybe it's what Matt just described, maybe it's something else. This is the deepest draft I've ever been a part of. There are good players at almost every stage of the draft. There are no bad

rounds in this one. You're going to find some of you can help you every spot of the draft, or almost at any price point that you want in the auction. So everything can work. And I just encourage you to be creative, try something new and different that you've always wanted to try because this is the best year I've ever seen to try something different. Chart is gonna try getting running backs in the first period. It's weird. It is something you've never tried before. Never do that, Uh, Scott,

what have you got? Uh? Second auction tip here, Lalo and I think this is a great job, great one for this year. In it's the auction, don't even bid for the a couple of days or in a live auction first twenty or so players don't even bid. Or if you do bid and you don't want to reveal what you're doing, bid make bids that you know have no chance of winning. Just lay completely low all the excitement at the start of an auction. People are spending tons of money. Save it, okay, but don't be the

guy that throws out stay Kwon Barkley one dollar. No, Scott will throw him out for well, yes, what you could do, because he's he's going to go for more than you know. I but I hate I hate the people to do that because it never go Now now, Sae Kwon Barkley, that should take thirty seconds to auction off is going to take a minute a half. You know,

one person in an auction can fix that. When somebody does the Sa kwan for one, you just go yeah, but nobody does because everybody's like, I might get him for three. Yeah, that never works. Let's be adults, uh correct. Go get your guys. It's auction day, it's draft day. Decide on who who you walk out there a year, there are three or four guys that you really really want on your team. Just go get him, don't. I don't care. I don't care what the ADP says. You know,

let's I'll take mad it is. That's actually one of my other bullet points. Austin Neckler is one of the guys you like, I think you should. He should be taken in the first round, ADP says the end of the second or the early third. Who cares, It's gonna break your heart if you don't get Austin Neckler. Just go take him. Who cares about ADP? Identify your guys and go get them. You know Scott's Hays don't spend

more than in an auction. I feel like, well, I think that's a viable strategy and it's one you could come away with a good team with. For me, if Patrick Mahomes is a guy you want on your team, Go get him or whoever it is, Go get your guys. Can you imagine me the biggest thirty dollars on Kenny Golladay And I'm just like dying, man. I just I hate it when I leave auctions and I didn't get

my guys. Go get your guys, especially in auctions. Yeah, that's the one time when you have a chance, you better, right, Scott, you're focusing on draft day auction decisions. Yes, My My next tip is attacked the middle. And it's not just attacked the middle of the auction, which you absolutely should do. Attack the middle of an auction, but also the middle

of tears. Yes, when the first player of a tear hits the board, they start getting bit up, and generally someone is trying to get their guy in that tier, so they're paying more the last player of a tier. Super people get scared, they get super expensive. Attack the middle of the auction and attack the middle of tears. I think there's some truth to that. I've gone to do it. I've the worst auctions I've ever had have employed this strategy. And here's my tip to you what

not to do. Don't go to an auction saying I'm just gonna find value. I'm just gonna find guys I think are under undervalued. The weird thing is value will come to you if you do the auction right. I think so do and you end up not getting your guys again, back to this, You don't get your guys when you're just waiting for value and fishing for value. The next thing you know, you've just got a bunch of players that nobody wanted. Zack Moss is up for bid right now in an auction, and Jonna Smith is

coming up right after him. I don't I know JOHNA. Smith's gonna get thrown out next because I'm gonna nominate him right afterwards. Okay, are you really spending up on those kind of guys that will you break the rule to go get guys? You know I wouldn't, not Johnny Smith, But yeah I paid uh in a recent twenty man auction. I just paid fourteen for Zach for Zack Moss. You know it's a twenty team auction, but sure, yeah, I alluded to this earlier. Just have a fun team. I

think there's to me. I love I love having Patrick Mahomes on my team and Lamar Jackson on my team, entire Hill on my team. Guys that are athletic specimens that when Patrick Mahomes goes back to pass and you see him with that big wind up and the blood starts pumping, anything could happen. You know, this thing, this ball could go sixties seventy yards in the air and cradle into the arms of Tyreek Hill. I love having players where any time they touched the ball, something magical

could happen. Fun players make for a fun year, even if you don't win the whole thing. Scott, You've got more auction items. Sure, sure, this one's this one's a little short. I called it this one. I am the law. It's it's fun being Yeah, it's fun being judged dread. But just be careful not to get exiled to the cursed earth. You don't want to price and force someone. And if people don't know what price enforcing and no auctions is is you're bidding up a player you don't

really want. You're just bidding them up to waste money to get money out of other people. Um My, My main point on that is, never make a bid that you are not okay winning that bid. It's hard. I mean, it's really it's gutsy. It's gutsy. If it's gonna crush you that you ended up with that bit just because you're bidding somebody up. Don't don't make that bit. We've

all been in several auctions before. How many times have we been in an auction, made a bit of eighteen dollars a player and then just been absolutely relieved when somebody said nineteen, just like, oh thank god. Absolutely. Uh. If you're doing an online drafter auction and you're not familiar with the online drafter auction room, you know it's a new technology to you, it's a new website. Whatever, go early, get situated. Understand how everything works, how you

make a selection, how you build a queue. Do a mock on that site. Yes, go do a mock draft on that site, so you learn the engine because you don't want technology to be an impediment. Well, you're on the clock and you're trying to figure out if I should raise an auction bid or your your pick is up in the draft and ESPN and Yahoo, which are probably the two most popular things. ESPN recently changed their

auction room about a year ago. So if you haven't played in a little while, it's gonna be a little bit different. You can go do free mocks right on their site at any time time. Yeah. And by the way, the technology for those auction rooms, auctioning is hard. It's really hard that Yes, Be and Yahoo have done an amazing job with their auction rooms. They're really really good. They're both good. They just move things sometimes you don't know where they are. Got. Uh. Next tip for auctions, Uh,

take notes. And I'm not talking about like in college taking tons of note. It's like that kind of thing I'm talking about. When you wit a player, take note. If someone was bidding hard against you, put a note by that player. This guy really wanted this player. Um. Same with if you see someone who gets obviously stuck with a player, you might be able to get him on the cheap. Just a couple of brief notes to take while you're while you're doing an auction, Can I

give you I don't want to steal? Well if you if you I'm gonna, I've got an auction. Yeah, well I have one more, but you're not gonna. It won't hit. Every year I write down all of the auction values for every player. So when s Kwon Barkley goes for forty one. Write down forty one next his name. Then the next year I go back and I look so that I can see in this group of people. Here

is how this this group tends to lean. You know, they run running backs heavy, and I know that the high end running backs are going to go for forty one because I've got years of I look back for years, I go years of data. Here's what this, this is what this up. It is good prep and so I can you really can get a feel for and I'm telling you it largely holds true year after year. People just are who they are. Wow. So it actually ended

up kind of stealing my last note. And just if you're in a new auction league, every auction is super different. So looking at previous years and current auction values as a tool is okay, but be prepared for the auction to drastically change. Unless you're in the auction with the same group of people, which you know, then you might be able to get a pretty good read of the room. Last one, be mentally ready if you're in a draft to trade down. You know this is to Matt's point earlier,

there's just so much depth and so much value. If you could turn your first round pick into a second and a third, make that deal. If you tune your second rounder to a third and fourth, make that deal. You know you can really accumulate picks. We talked about this in some detail a few shows ago. You really can accumulate a lot of picks and do yourself a favor in a deep draft by trading down. Most people don't do it. We'll never do it. This is a

great opportunity for exactly that. Hey, if you want to be ready for your draft auction, maybe it's today, maybe it's this week. Get my g cheat for free Guillotine leagues dot com. Paul Church and Scott Fish and Matt Harrison with you. Back in moments. Welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly. Fault Charchi and Scott Fish and Matt Harrison with you. This is a segment we like to call three tough questions. You can play along. I will pepper my co host, with three. So uncomfortable with this segment

right now? Based on what happened the last time the three of us were at this table, you should be you went over three. If you recall and then you carried over your bad mojo to last week. And I just answered everything that Scott answered, And if you got him all right and I got him all wrong, that can happen. You can play along, see if you can go three and oh we begin with tough question number one.

Does the plethora of injuries to wide receivers improve your projections for tight and George Kittle a lot, a little, or not at all? Scott, alright, so he was already my tight end one pretty much with a bullet. So I don't know how much more I can add to him. If you're asking if he will break his own single season receiving record of which is best of all time for tight ends at six. Already thought he had a

shot at it. If you think he's gonna to break his career high and touchdowns of five, he had three called back last year, I think he was already going to do that, so honestly, not at all, because I already had him pegged for just a ridiculous year. Yeah, I'm just gonna answer whatever, Scott. No, Deebo was seen sprinting hard, as I mentioned at Wednesday's practice. That's a good thing. It's still possible he's ready for week one.

Hiuk is week to week with what's called a mild left hamstring strain, so he could be back by week one. The depth at the wide receiver position isn't flashy, but it's not horrible. Kendrick Borne showed flashes in the red zone last year. Dante Pettis looked like a professional wide receiver in the past, enough so where Chart gave me a first round pick for him. Uh Davon Austin, Kevin White I have a first round pedigree. I expect one

of those to get cut. But rookie Joan Jennings was a guy that people generally liked going to the draft. He felt the seventh he's on the roster. To the point of it, all is is Htle is gonna eat. We're not worried about that. Having better weapons on the field will help allow him to avoid additional coverage. Though what's good for the offense is good for the offense.

So my answer is not at all, not at all. Again, the question is does the plethor of injuries the wide receivers improve your projection for tight end George Kittle a lot, a little, or not at all. Any correct answer is not at all and you said, things that are good for the offense. Uh, for good for a player in the offense are good for the whole offense. Things that are bad for a player in the offense are bad for the whole offense. Kittle is not gonna get better

because of this. He's he is a matchup nightmare. He's too big for dbs, he's too fast for linebackers. But without competent receivers, they you can put both linebacker and a dB get a double and triple. They can double him. Except for Jalen heard, most of these injuries are short term. Um, it's a long season. I just don't think at the end of the day that those injuries are going to change much of anything for George Kittle. Nicely done, you

two tough question Number two. Ben Roethlisberger is going off the board as quarterback fifteen in round twelve. Is the public drafting him too late, too early or just right? Matt Oh, I got one right and I get to go first now? Yeah, back baby, Uh, you have honors, so to speak. In two thousand eighteen, the last season Big Ben played in, he was the second best fantasy quarterback in the league behind Patrick Mahomes. He had over yards that season thirty four touchdowns. It was more yardage

than Mahomes. By the way, Now, he did have Antonio Brown that season, but the depth of Juju, Dionte Washington and Claypool plus Ebron Advance a tight end is pretty good. Fantasy owners are replaying last year, though, and he didn't really play last year if you might remember. Correct, they're saying he has zip on the ball and looks like his old self and practice. Plus I don't fully trust James Conner or the running backs to be monsters this year.

So I think Roethlisberger has top five quarterback upside, and if you can get him in the twelfth, that means we're drafting him too late. Okay, Scott, Okay. So getting a quarterback like him in the twelfth is fine because I'm always against taking quarterbacks in the single digit usually,

always usually against taking quarterbacks in the single digit rounds. Anyway, I think there's legit concern for his elbow and what a full sixteen games would look like on that elbow, and maybe it looks great great in practice right now. But obviously he has ten top ten upside, but he doesn't run either, and there's that risk there. By the way, Matt, you just said you think we're drafting him too late at QBFT yet my shock Fantasy Com cheat sheet here

says Ben Roethlisberger QB. Well the order is correct. Okay, okay, you need other people to draft other quarterbacks? Checks out, God Scott always trying to bust my behind. None of that in this room has. My answer is, it's just right. It's just right. It's fine. Roethlisberger is going too late. There's there's all this receiving talent around him. You've got four capable wide receivers, you have two capable tight ends, you have pass catching backs. He's got the excellent offensive line.

Pro Football focuses number five ranked pass blocking offensive line from last year. I believe you calling Judith Schuster capable is your biggest compliment. It probably this year he's capable. And Matt alluded to this, Uh we forget one. He's one season removed from being Fantasy Football's third highest scoring quarterback. He could regress a ton and still be way outperformed different way I'll perform the twelfth round. So he is

going too late. Tough question number three, Terry McLaurin and A J. Brown were both robbed of the Rookie of the Year award last season, which these second year receivers will post the bigger fantasy point improvement in year number two. Scott, Oh wow, what's going on here? He tricked me with that one? Yeah, I thought I had honors? What the heck? Man? Whatever? I don't know what I am going with F one. McLaren Uh, it's mostly due to their staffis. By the way,

that's a way better nickname than Scary Terry. Scary Terry is a basketball player's nickname. Well, and he's also a morty name too, Like F one is way way cooler. How not just mclaude. I knew, I love, I love both these guys. But but really the truth is F one had a hundred less yards and and a touchdown less last year. He had nine nineteen yards and seven touchdowns and fifty eight receptions. I think I think he improves that by you know, a hundred two hundred yards

a couple of extra touchdowns. A J. Brown already had over a thousand yards and eight touchdowns. I don't know how much how much more he's gonna jump up from that so the bigger improvement I'm going to with f one. Okay, I mean A J. Brown did all that but on only eight four targets and fifty two catches. So it's gotta be a J. Brown who can who can go

through the roof. But much like they should have been co Rookies of the Year last year, it's possible that they could be the co most improved players this year. I like them both a lot um. They don't know. There's nothing we're not saying anything bad. You don't call him soft questions chart. So my answer is a J. Brown, And the reason is the offense. The quarterback is better

in Tennessee. The running backs are better in Tennessee, the offensive line, the tight ends, probably the better second wide receiver. Everything about Tennessee's offense is significantly better than Washington's. So that's why a J. Brown's got a better shot of massive improvement. Yeah, you you took most of my talking points. It is a J. Brown, even though he starts from a higher position. As a baseline, McLaurin was roughly wide receiver twenty five depending on scoring system last year and J.

Brown was roughly wide receiver eighteen. But you hit on so many of the key things. A J. Brown's got the advantage of stability of quarterback, stability of overall offense, the better running game to keep heat off, the better offensive line, and the better ownership situation, which, by the way, is a tangible intangible I mean, there really is a lot of chaos that has to be happening right now inside the Washington front office, and that stuff if it

affects everybody, it really does. By the way, I was going to take A J. Brown, but mad and I didn't want to be the same la pedaling. No, it's uh. We saw we saw inconsistency last year from mclauren just because of not that not that his I think any part of it's his fault. It's just all these things that surround and that offense. It's going to be because he had a nine yard game, McLaren had an eleven yard game. Tia to thirty nine yard games. These are

all scoreless games. Those are bad games that give you l's and in a guillotine league, those are bad games that get get your head chopped. Have to be really careful with with McClaren that way. And yes, A J. Brown starts from a higher point, so it's harder for him to make improvement. But he's got wide receiver one in him. He does a J Brown does, and he can't. Dwayne Haskins can't power to be all the time. I don't think it might matter. The offensive lines bad. I

don't know. I just think that offense just is not gonna be able to produce enough to make Terry McLaurin anywhere near wide receiver number one. You underestimate Alex Smith. We have a couple of bonus minutes. I'm gonna give you a bonus question. Christian McCaffrey is going off the board number one. Leagues, let's talk about whether or not it should be this overwhelming, because I don't think that's the case. There are a lot of things working against

Christie McCaffrey this particular year. We have a whole new offense that he's got to that has to be acclimated to. We have an offensive line in Carolina. Well, we think he's gonna be good, but we don't know. We we have a whole new we have a whole We have an offensive line that is straight up garbage, that is a bad offensive line. We have a quarterback that is not going to threaten downfield at all. Now you can look at you know, Will Allen last year and go,

you know what, what good was he either? But Teddy's not built that way. Um and just regression, I mean, just what he did last year was so off, so far outside of the ordinary, that it seems unlikely to happen again. And there are a lot more. There are a lot of weapons there. Ian Thomas is legit good. Robbie Anderson is there now, Yes, not to mention sel t J. Moore, right, So you know, there are a

lot of other options there. We don't know for sure that this new coaching staff is going to treat Christian McCaffrey the same way the last one did, which really deferred to him on like everything. Fantasy football players did catch a touchdown from the practice, yes, and so I got some stuff on this. So Matt Rule. His offenses at Baylor ran the ball of the time. Joe Brady was one of the most past happy coordinators uh in

the in the in college. Last year at l s u UM, the team average thirty eight passing attempts per gards lay a little bit, but the Panthers passed on six of plays last season that was the fourth highest in the league. And you have a quarterback who can't throw very far. So it's a team that passed a lot last year, an offensive coordinator who passed a ton the year before, and a head coach who has a running philosophy with a quarterback who can't throw the ball downfield.

This all just leads to Christian McCaffrey. Dump offs to Christian McCaffrey. Handoffs to Christian McCaffrey. Maybe he's gonna break his own records. If you're if you're not going to take Christian McCaffrey at the first pick, who would you take Barley? It's getting closer to Derrick Henry For me, Clyde Edwards Hilaire, I want start running back from the

best offensive football. I'm fine with any of those three. Yes, I think you know there's you know you can be brave out there and go some other way besides Christian McCaffrey, if you feel like you're up to it. If you'd like to try the freshest format and fantasy sports, it's the Guillotine League. Guillotine leagues dot Com. Seventeen teams start the season every week, the low scoring team gets cut and their entire roster goes the waiver wire and everybody

else gets to feast on those players. Check it out Guillotine leagues dot com private, private and public leagues for YouTube play. We'll be back in moments. More Fantasy Football Weekly. It's Fantasy Football Weekly, episode number five, year number twenty six. I am Paul Charchi and my co hosts are Matt Harrison and Scott Fish our number two guys. We're going to talk about teammates at the same position and who

you would rather have based on their draft position. So it's not just which guys better, which is usually pretty obvious. The trickier question is based on where they would go in a draft, which also kind of equates to an auction, how much you'd have to pay Who would you rather have in that scenario. We begin in the a f C with m Devin Singletary in round five or Zack mosson round ten. Yeah. So I've done two drafts in the last two days, and Zack Moss went ahead of Devins.

Look at what we have done, So look at what this show is done to Zack Moss is stock. This is a weird question for me to. I think they're both like seventh round or round right in that range. Well, so when I looked, they were fifth and tenth. But I get that ADP says that I'm just saying the last two drafts. So, UM, it's clearly moster right. If Josh Allen is running less, so he's gonna get less of those nine yard touchdowns and there's more Gary's uh,

and he's get in the passing game. It's Moss. We've gone over Moss a billion times. I don't need to keep now. You probably don't we you know we love him on this show. Well, at least I do. You guys might be just going along for the ride. I don't know Matt in Pittsburgh. The wide receivers Juju Smith Schuster in round three, Deonta Johnson round nine, or James Washington in round twenty, Well, Jujus price point is too early for me, especially since I'm not fully trusting him

this season. You shouldn't pend. And if I'm doing the three five two, I'm not taking a wide receiver in round three. So it's between Deonta and James Washington from weeks nine through sixteen. Um, Johnson averaged or sorry, James Washington average six point to five targets, just over four catches and seventy two yards per game with three touchdowns.

That's pretty good. Over those exact same eight games, Deonta Jhnson averaged only five point eight targets, three point seven five receptions, and only forty one yards per game with only two touchdowns over that span. But we're drafting Deonte Johnson eleven rounds ahead of James Washington, yes, earlier. It's ridiculous. I'm taking James Washington super late. Yeah, I think you might be right about that. Man. Most drafts aren't even

twenty rounds long, Scott. Let's go to New England wide receiver Julian Edelman around seven or Nick Kiel Harry in round fifteen. So I put to kill Harry despite reports he's been fatigued and Edelman's in his face and stuff, because the end of this last week he started showing up and making play. So I think I think maybe he's gonna get there. He's the clear number two in that offense. He's a big body target for uh for Cam Newton, and UH, I don't know that Cam's gonna

use Edelman the same way. Edelman is getting older. But the biggest thing for me is in that seventh round. And of course I was looking at recent drafts for me, uh zass, Zack Moss, Deonte Johnson, Will Fuller, Michael Gallup, j K Dobbins, all within like six seven picks on either side. I'm like, I want all those guys more than I want Element. So it's Niki Hill Harry almost by a process of elimination. Let's go to Baltimore matt running backs, mark Ingram and round six or JK Dobbins

in round eight. So Baltimore averaged thirty seven rushing attempts per game last season and only twenty eight passing attempts. They were the most run heavy team in the league. It's worth noting that they only averaged twenty five rushing rushing attempts for running back last year part of that, and that was only good for the seventh most. Gus Edwards averaged eight carries per game. Yeah, he's out. Justice Hill averaged three and a half carries per game. He's

really out. I feel like I just found eleven touches for JK Dobbins plus Ingram, Gus and Hill were not involved in the passing game at all. The three of them combined for two and a half catches per game. The Ravens had the third fewest running back receptions in the league last year, and that's because they didn't have JK. Dobbins, who can catch out of the backfield. And we saw the we saw the beautiful catch in the back of

the end zone on Twitter earlier this week. So I think it's probably an even split on touches, with both guys getting around fourteen fifteen per game. That means I'm taking Dobbins two rounds later. Agree with all of them, Scott. Let's go to Cleveland where Odell Beckham is going in the third round, Jarvis Landry in the sixth. This is another process of elimination because I just like too many other players in the third round and people all people

hate Jarvis Landry for no good reason. Well, you don't score touchdowns. That's a good reason. Well, you know, at the end of the day, more than anything else in fantasy football, I want touchdowns. Yeah, Well, he has touchdown ten touchdowns the last two years, and that's exactly how many Odell Beckham Junior has in the last two years as well. So there's that. So there's that. But we but we have we have a history that shows Odell Beckham can get double digit touched Jarvis Landry's five six

touchdowns a year. Yeah, that is true. Back when David Johnson was really good, Odell Beckham Junior was really good too. I get that. But but but what I'm saying, Wow, but what I'm saying is very passive aggressive right there. Jarvis Lantry has eight plus catches every year, and he's got the most catches in the first six years of a career of all time. Is that true? That's true? You know, in fairness, who's ever, Who's ever? It's the most boring

Who's ever? Said? Jarvis Landry sunk my draft? Nobody but O'Dell sunk a couple of you know, many people's draft. That's why in the third round there are tons of guys I love. In the sixth round. Sure, I'll take that safe wide receiver to wide receiver three for me. By the way, Michael Thomas is gonna obliterate that Jarvis Landry record. This is year six for Michael Thomas. So we're talking about teammates at the same position and which one we'd prefer to have based on where you have

to draft them. We go to Indianapolis, matt where Jonathan Taylor is going in the fourth round, in Marlon Mack and the ninth. I just want to kind of answer this one with a look like, come on, come on, one of these guys has the potential to be the number one running back in football. You can get him in round four. Of that upside, we've seen enough of Mac. It's Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, this is the first time we haven't chosen the lowest available player when we've done this exercise.

But it's because it's a round four guy that might end up being a top five running back. Jonathan Taylor is a special back. Marlon Mack isn't. And based on that alone is what I hear you say. Yeah, but I do believe Marlon Max is gonna be a thorn in the side, and he's gonna get more playing time than any of us want to want to a bunch too, and it's gonna we're gonna hate all of it, but Marlon max playing time is just a thorn in our side. Nobody's gonna want to start Marlon Mack on any rosters

this year at all. Probably true. All right, Matt, let's go to Houston. Will Fuller is going around seven Brandon Cooks and round eight. I'll take this woman stuff. Sorry, by the way, I do like O b J. That was a joke with David Johnson. I have him is like apologize. You can hammer O b J. He's a big boy, you can take. Uh, this one is quite easily Will Follward for me, and it's it's actually not even close. I I can't touch cook Cook in the eighth.

I don't think I can touch him in the tenth even. Honestly, there's just other players, uh for for me, Will Fuller with a full offseason, give me the guy with tons of chemistry with Watson without a fall offseason. I mean Cooks, Cooks doesn't have that. Um, this guy's uh the Cooks is you know, you're removed from four straight thousand yard

gate seasons. But Fullers, the guy with all the chemistry, all the touchdowns, double digit fantasy points in two thirds of his games with Deshaun Watson, and Deshaun Watson is already singing his praises just really loud. So all right, Matt, let's go to Miami. Teammates Jordan Howard going in the eighth round or Matt Brita in the ninth. So I'm cheating and I have exactly two answers to this one. If it's a PPR league, you take Matt Brida. If it is less than a full PPR league, you take

Jordan Howard. Reason Howard has only averaged one point two receptions per game over the last three years. Brita didn't average a ton more. But he's one of the fastest backs in the league and was sure handed when given the tunity in San Francisco. But I do think Howard will be the goal line back and we'll get most of the work near the stripes. So a non PPR I lead Howard. In PPR, I'm taking Breed. By the way, we were mentioned this two weeks ago when I did

vacated targets vacated running. Matt Brida is got sneaky upside. He sure does zekey upside. The game is among teammates at the same position, same team, which one is better to draft based on a DP. We're doing the a f C right now. Denver Melvin Gordon in round four, Philip Lindsay and round eight. Okay, so this this is a pure cheapest option. If it's a split backfield and it sounds like it's gonna be fifty, you take the

cheapest option. I know that Melvin Gordon is the better pass catching back, but he is Melvin Gordon has had three years over eight point five yards per catch, and I think, uh, Philip Lindsay's best is five point six. Even Royce Freeman out caught Philip Lindsay last year is just on film. It's it's a different game. Honestly, um two or thirty eight point pound. Royce Freeman was better in the air. Through the air, get his name right,

it's Royce dropped the piano. Freeman. Royce dropped the piano. Freeman was better than Phil Lindsay in the past game last year. But honestly, with a split backfield, I want and I do think it's gonna be like forty some catches to thirty some catches, so it's it's negligible, But I want the cheaper option in round eight, which is Philip Lindsay. I've taken the cheaper option in all but

two of these scenarios so far. Our final teammates at the same position Oakland wide receivers first round rookie Henry Ruggs round ten or third round rookie Brian Edwards round twenty two. I love those twenty two round drafts. By the way, By all accounts, Edwards is ahead of Rugs on the depth chart in Vegas right now, So why I take the guy twelve rounds later who's ahead on the depth chart? And Edwards is not the burner that

the Davis family seems to love. That's what Rugs is, But he's the most complete wide receiver they have on roster, and the guy out of all their wide receivers, including Hunter Renfroe and Tyrelle Williams. Brian Edwards is the guide woman roster. When we come back, which teammates at the same position are the better one to draft in the NFC, including the very thorny Dallas wide receiver situation. Will break that down and a dozen other teammates at the same

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go there. It is promo code peak. Yeah, I don't have to take that. You gotta spell that, spell that sound. I think it's got an S, a lot of cues, some W in there. There's an H for sure. It's a silent age. Which teammates at the same position is the better one to draft? We just did the a f C. We broke down a f C teammates and it's got to be based on ADP. We're not just saying which guy's better, We're just saying, based on where you have to take them in a drafter in auction,

who would you rather have? You know what I was thinking during the break. This just screams you are trade down as much as possible. It really does. You know. In the a f C we said trade down in six, seven, eight, eight of the ten scenarios had to trade down. This also screams, don't spend more than fifteen in an auction. Yes, it really does. Its validates almost everything we've been saying. Trade down in draft, you don't spend too much in auctions.

Oh yeah, let's another one of those right there, which to adalysis. Later in the segment proves our dalysis from earlier, which deemates at the same position are the is the better one to draft. We go to Dallas wide receivers a Marii Cooper going in the third round, Michael Gallup in the seventh, or Ceedee Lamb in the matt I like all of these guys a lot and a lot, but unless Cooper falls to the fourth I won't take him while doing the Gainesville. So it's down to Gallop

and Lamb. And with every report out of camp that Ceedee Lamb is the most impressive thing that they've ever seen, I think I'm gonna swing for the fences and take Ceedee Lamb because this lines up to me kind of like Randy Moss's rookie year he was passed on. He goes into a situation with two established really good wide receivers, get Chris Carter. Yeah, this looks like it could be

just like Seedee Lamb just explodes this year. Do we see a three one hundred game where Zeke gets a hundred all three of those receivers and Jack gets three hundred. You know when that last happened. Vikings Lions, Scott Mitchell, Parriman Morton, and Man Cooper, Gallop Lamb. I think to meet Cooper is the least appealing out of those three. I would rather have Gallop in round seven, who scored about as many Fantasy points as Amari Cooper did last year,

and more consistently, and much more consistently. You don't get the highs and the lows you get out of a Marie Cooper. He's the plays a player I never end up having. Let's go to the opposite. I take him everywhere. I reached the heck up for him in our guillotine. I reached for him for for Mary Cooper, No for Gallup with Gallup, Okay, yeah, he's perfect for guillotine format, no doubt, because of the consistency. Let's go to the giant Scott Sterling Shepherd Round ten, Darius Slayton, Round ten,

Golden Tate. At the end of round ten, I'll call it round eleven. Which one do you want? So it's Slayton, and it's because like I don't. I know, he's not the most consistent of them. He's just got the most upside. He's he's the one that's that's splash year. He can have the bigger games. He scored more touchdowns in both of them last year. If I'm in round ten, it's my wider super four or five. I've already got my starters. I want the splashy upside guy. Yeah, I think that.

And by the way, that's an over that's an overriding draft strategy that we should probably should have mentioned earlier in the draft strategy w C Baby. If side wins championship, upside wins, and later in your draft that it should be also should be swinging for the fences. Once you've got your established starters, you those you can three, but right throw the darts, uh and make him good. Matt.

Let's go to Chicago running back David Montgomery and round five probably lower uh in more recent drafts, or Tree Cohen in round eight. The correct answer is avoid this backfield at all costs, or take Cordarrel Patterson in the last round, dear draft, Or if I have to choose between the two, how about Spencer Ware off the board. Free agent maybe, Uh, if I have to choose between the two, though, I'm still going to probably take David Montgomery.

He's definitely going to be a little bit lower in a DP right now because if he's probably six or seventh round, Tree Cohen might have moved up around, so he's probably six or seven, and I think when all are healthy, David Montgomery is the guy who's going to get the goal line work. He had eight teen carries inside the five last year, and he's probably gonna be the guy who gets closer to twenty touches per game, and that's a guy can get maybe in the sixth

or seventh right now, So that's okay. This is a great time to draft him if you were planning on if you even liked him a little, this is the time to draft. His value so low and it's possible that David Montgomery doesn't miss a game. It's also possibly as a setback on the groining. And we're talking about this in October, so you know, there's there's plenty of risk. And he certainly did not look like a special back last year, and there's nothing about what we heard in

training camp suggested it looked any better. This year. I'm not saying he's special, no, I know neither. I'm saying the opportunity is there. The opportunity is the big thing, hey, and opportunities a single most important part of fantasy football at every position. Scott's go to Detroit, will stay in the NFC North running back DeAndre Swift in the fifth round, or carry on Johnson in the ninth. So DeAndre Swift is dinged up a little, but I'm gonna let carry on.

Johnson asked to this answer this question when he was asked about how they're working together and what they're learning from each other. Carry on, Johnson said, I can't learn anything from Swift because the way Swift's knees bend and hips work, I can't do any of them. So ready he comes up. It does a little shaky dick through whatever thing. I can't do that. Just shaky dick, shaky dick whatever thing. I can't do that. So I just said, why aren't you doing this? And carry on? Johnson's voice,

by the way, that's outstanding. I love that quote. I and I totally missed that, all right. I agree, Matts go to Green Bay Aaron Jones in the second round a j Dillon in the fourteenth round or Jamal Williams in the nineteen round. So I have a feeling this backfield is going to be pretty messy all season. And by messy, I think they just get They all get a lot of work. Um. So I'm going to take Packers backs only in best ball leagues. I'm not taking them in leagues where I have to start one of them.

I'm only taking them in best ball leagues. And the guy had been taking in the last round of just about every bit best ball league recently is Jamal Williams. He had five receiving touchdowns last year and was easily the second best receiving option on the field outside of Davante Adams last season. And let's recount all of the guys the Packers brought into bolster that passing game. I don't have crickets on here. Here, here, take this. It's it's of cricket. Sounds just like one of those Green

Bay crickets. Big there um and chart outline last week that Packers wide receivers don't get targets near the goal line. They had one inside the five last wild and it's because Jones got a lot of carries inside the five, Dylan's gonna take a lot of those this year, and Jamal Williams was getting a whole bunch of targets inside the five. So I think it's Jamal Williams really late. I don't want any part of Jamal Williams. Really. I don't want a part of any of these guys much.

But I think if I had to pick, when I take a j Dillon and just hope that's only doing this in best Ball, Uh, Scott, let's go to Atlanta Julio Jones round two or Calvin Ridley and round four. I think there's one of the toughest ones to decipher my first line. I hate this question because I absolutely love both of them for this year. I I think if we see both of them average ten targets game, I would not be shocked out of the year. I think.

I think there's tons of opportunities. So I'm giving it to Calvin Ridley for the two round discount, just so I can grab myself a running back or a stud tight end in that second round. I'll take Ridley in the fourth. I'm really surprised Lakwan Treadwell wasn't in that in round seven, Dwell Russell gage before him. Alright, Matt, let's let's go to another one that might be THORNI or than it sounds at first, Michael Thomas in round one or Emmanuel Sanders in round ten. I don't think

this is Thorny at all. It's Michael Thomas because he's Michael Thomas. Manuel Sanders is nice, but he won't receive half of the Thomas target load. He's not a red zone guy like Thomas's. He's going to have a very fine fourth or fifth wide receiver slot on your roster kind of year. Sanders hasn't topped five touchdowns in a season since Peyton Manning was his quarterback. He has top to nine hundred yards in three years. He's missed eight

games due to injury over the last three years. And as Scott said, round ten eleven, those those mid round guys you want the upside. I don't think Emmanuel Sanders carries the huge upside that Michael Thomas does. Obviously, wait ten more rounds. Take trick one Smith mind brawl done with so trying to roll the dice on after said, yeah,

whore's predicting breakout season. I don't care. And I think two months ago Michael Thomas was from in my drafts anyway, or it was going like pick three, pick four, pick five now later. Now, yeah, it's all running backs in those seven picks. I saw a quote from an analyst the other day, and I wish I could remember who so I could credit him, But he said, I don't care if Michael Thomas is there with pick twenty four

of the twelve of the second round. So the job take two running backs to start your There's a lot of people feel that way this year. It's go to Tampa Bay, Chris Godwin will cost you a second rounder, or Mike Evans with a third rounder. Scott uh this one, for me, it's Chris Godwin. I there's a love fest for me and Chris Godwin, but for me, Godwin is just a far better fit with Brady. Godwin plays all over, he plays the slow which Brady loves to throw too.

He's better on the short yard and stuff. Uh and and reports recently are Brady and Evans are getting a little more chemistry, but they're they're just getting it now. It seems like I want the guy that we're in the area where he's used to throwing too. You know, we think of Mike Evans and he is a bit of a downfield receiver Jamis Winston for his many faults. You know, he had a cannon. The guy could throw downfield, and Brady just doesn't have that in the arm anymore.

Like Evans was their lead pass receiver inside the infrared zone. So watch that there is that Matt's go to Arizona. Kenyan Drake will cost you a second rounder Chase Edmonds a rounder. This might kind of surprise you. I'm gonna take Kenyan Drake in round two. That does, because I've seen him going round one and a lot of drafts. But I'm also going to take Edmonds and reach around and take him in round thirteen because it's Kenyan walking boot Drake. Uh. He has all the attributes of a

true fantasy stud. I'm still a tiny bit worried that it was fool's gold because he had thirty three percent of his Fantasy points in two games last year. So while I will invest in him in round two for the huge upside, I will also require that I get his very talented handcuff in Edmonds later in the draft. That's a cheating answer. Right there. Yeah, it is, let's pick one or the other. I did. I picked I'm gonna take Drake. Then I'm gonna have to reach her.

Then the game is teammates at the same position, who's the better one to draft based on their average draft position. We go to San Francisco, where he mostarts, going in the sixth round, Tevin Coleman in the ninth Tevin Coleman could be going. Still, not taking him just not good doesn't mean he won't be fantasy viable in in that kind of run offense where they spread it around. Absolutely, but he's a guy that if he gets four yards and carry, you're like, heck, yes, this is amazing. This

is the best Tevin covid. We're gonna get four yards for Gary uh No, it's moster. He's just too efficient. Five point six yards per uh for per attempt last year, twelve point nine yards per reception last year, which is just ridiculous. And that's no fluke. He was used seven eight nine yards per reception the year before that too. Um and the Beat reporters have been talking about how most of it is the clear back he's I think he was too, but they're they're going to use a rotation.

They absolutely, but you made me choose. I did, so that's how and some people can make a choice on this show where he most by the way, when he most asked for the trade, who blinked the team? Teams don't generally blink in those situations at the state. When you get to that point, the team rarely blinks. He goes, Okay,

we'll pay you. They paid him. That says plenty about the leverage that where he Mostard had final two teammates at the same position, Which is the better one to draft Dk Metcalf in the fifth round or Tyler Lockett in the fifth round at well. Dk averaged five and a half targets through the first eight games of the season last year, then seven targets over the final ten games including playoffs. Uh so he increased it by a

target and a half. Locket averaged six point eight targets over the first date and seven point four over the final ten. He didn't really increase it that much at all. Those don't seem like a big difference, but increasing your workload by almost two targets per game as the quarterback and staff started trusting Dk Metcalf more and more leads me to believe that there's untapped upside for him. And I think we've seen Locketts upside and he's a really

good solid wide receiver two on fantasy rosters. But Metcalf has the chance to vault into wide receiver one territory. Bettcalf has elite elite in him, right. I mean we've seen what Tyler Lockett can do, and it's good, it's not elite. DK Metcalf has the possibility of being a top five wide receiver and that body and I think that's why I would rather take the upside in Dk Metcalf. I'm with you on that one. Interestingly, we've gone almost all of the higher a DP guys in this segment.

Our final one is in Los Angeles among ram wide receivers, Cooper Cup in the early fourth or Robert Woods in the late fourth round. Let's stick with the higher a DP guys. I'm going Cooper Cup. Uh he he like Woods can break plays Woods maybe the safe, consistent guy that doesn't get hurt. But and cups. Cups has missed time injuries, concussions. But if you told me that, and he's a red zone machine, Cooper Cup is just a

machine with targets. And if you told me a round four wide receiver ended this season as the number one wide receiver in league and and made me bet on it, I bet Cooper Cup he has that in him. We talked about it last week. If there was one wide receiver outside of the top ten, who you think could finish number one overall? Cooper Cup was the guy I forgot. But but yes, I agree with whoever said that. But again, nice,

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A game that we play most preseasons is called agree to Disagree. This is where each of us battles each other on a particular topic, and you know, a lot of times we end up in lockstep. We convince each other of some of our best takes. Matt has convinced me on the upside of Austin Neckler, as one example, over the course of this preseason, and I've nudged him up over the course of the preseason up my cheat

sheet correspondingly. But there are other times that you're just wrong and I'm not coming to your side of the table on a particular take. So when that's the case, um, we agree to disagree. So we will have a battleground on different topics between each of us. We will begin with Scott versus Matt. The top it gives what is the topic, Jalen reagor alright, who is on the pro Reagor side. Oh you know, I am alright, Scott, Scott's

pro every wide receiver. I'm Mr Positivity, alright, alright, Mr Sunshine, you go first raining FSG Humanitard alright, lived as it may be, Jalen Reagor, I haven't around wide receiver forty and you haven't met wide receiver fifty three, which is that's too high? Dear Lord? What there are a hundred and twenty eight vacated targets from that team? Alshan Jeffrey is people expect at this point him to land on the pup for the first six weeks of the season.

I don't have faith into Sean Jackson anymore. I don't have faith in a A. F. S. Greg Ward is as good as you looked at the end of the season. Camp reports have been glowing on Reagor, who is lining up all over the place with the ones. I'm not saying he's gonna be a wide receiver one. I'm saying have him around wide receiver forty. He's a top end wide receiver four on your team. That's that's where I

have him. Sure Arts and Goddard are are their top two options, but went through for four thousand yards last year with all the rest of their guys out, what what is Goddard and uh and it's gonna get a thousand each and Miles Standers six hundred and then there's nothing for anybody else. I think he's a wide receiver four. I have him at at around wide receiver forty. Alright, Matt agreed to disagree Jalen Reagor go. I will agree

with Scott on one thing. I think Jalen Reagor will probably lead all Eagles wide receivers and catches, but he's going to end up fifth on the team in that category after Zach Ertz, Dallas Goddard, Miles Sanders, and Boston Scott. Wrong on Boston, Yes, you at Boston market is Boston Scott.

Over the last seven weeks of the season and when the Eagles wide receivers were absolutely decimated by injury last year, Carson Wentz increased his passing attempts by a ton and Wentz his first nine games he threw forty attempts in a game only twice. In his final seven games, he topped forty passing attempts in every game. That's with no wide receivers around, so who did he throw? Wouldn't that mean he's gonna throw that many more balls to Jalen Reagor,

who did he throw to? Zach ERT's average ten targets per game a necessity, Dallas Goddard averaged eight. Miles Sanders and Boston Scott each averaged five targets per game. Receivers were like Ward way better. What do tight end and running back pass routes have in common? High percentage, low depth of target, high efficiency. The wide receiver group during that time sounds like the kind of thing you do

when you don't trust your wide receivers. Sounds like the kind of thing you do when you want your offense to function and you want to win games down the stretch to win the NFC East, which, by the way, they did. The wide receiver group only averaged fifteen targets per game. Eight receptions and a hundred and two is a group. If you spread that around, maybe Jalen Reagor's getting six targets a game, four catches sixty yards? Whoop de do Jalen now listeners at home? You get to

decide who won. That's called agreed to disigree. You better put up a post gets to decide who the winner was. You just heard the Jalen Reagor battle. Here comes a Lamar Jackson battle. Me and Matt I say, Lamar Jackson is worth a first round pick. I should not even have to defend taking the highest scoring player in fantasy football last year in the first round. The next year, not only was the the highest scoring by ESPN scoring, he was a hundred points better than Christian McCaffrey. There's

no doubt that he should go in the first round. Now. Needless to say, Lamar Jackson is a massive differentiator at his position, and that is the surest way to win the lead. Get positional differentiation. How much better was Jackson than Patrick Mahomes last year? He was a passing touchdown and a half per game better. How much better was he than the average starting quarterback quarterback six Russell Wilson. Jackson was a touchdown and a half and fifty passing

yards better. And if you were to slopt the quarterback position all the way to quarterback twelve, how much better was he than Tom Brady last year? That same touchdown and a half, that same fifty passing yards per game and throwing twenty rushing yards better than Tom Brady. You're getting Tom Brady plus a touchdown and a half fifty yards and touch rushing yards. We said it over and over again last year. Lamar Jackson's like having a starting

running back and the starting quarterback. There's no plausible reason for him to regress. He should go in the first round. There's a plausible reason for him to regress. It's because it always happens. Do you know the last time we had a quarterback finish number one in back to back seasons Manning, No, I don't know. Dante Culpepper two thousand three,

two thousand four. That was the last time we had a number one and Culpepper, while he was a running threat, it wasn't his running that propelled him that those years. He had forty seven hundred yards in one of those seasons, so his passing ability, especially with Randy Moss, really helped propel him throughout those seasons. Throughout this offseason, John Harbaugh has said that he wants to make their offense more balanced, and by balanced, I think that means taking hits off

Lamar Jackson. Out of the one thousand thirty six plays the Ravens ran last season, six hundred six team were pass attempts. Lamar Jackson runs or sacks hundred and seventy six rushing attempts. For Jackson, he had more rushing attempts than Dak Prescott and Josh Allen combined. That's why I like it. That's not every rushing quarterback goes through this process. They had the year that is otherworldly. Then the coach says they need to be more balanced, and one of

two things happened. They try to force him into being more of a pocket passer or he gets hurt. So there's a huge risk in taking Jackson earlier. I'll take Josh Allen in round six, who also had a hundred rushing attempts last year and, by the way, more touchdowns on the ground than Lamar Jackson. All Right, our final agree to disagree? You know what, I gotta stop us here, Yes, I gotta stop us here. I know we're doing a fun segment on agree to Disagree, but fun the listeners

don't know about this. I just needed to apologize to you Charge and your family, and you matt and your family because when I found out that Matthew Stafford had gone to your house, Charge and kicked pepper and scraps and then went to Batt's house and kicked Hayley. What terrible. That's my daughter. That's even worse. That's worth it's Hattie. Hattie the dog is the daughter, and Hattie's a lot better. And Hattie is like four pounds when teen, Like, what

are you doing? Your daughter's thirteen pounds thirteen years old? When I found out Matthew Stafford had done that to both of your dogs, and first, that's the only reason you have from rank solo, right, that's the only possible reason. Yes, I I like Matthew Stafford. And he was great to the first half of last year before the injury, right, he was on paces and forty touchdowns and he's been a four thousand yard touchdown or four thousand yard guy like every year of his career. And you gotta make

QB sixteen. It's just a lot of good qbs. That's all a lot of great weapon. You know what I'm I am I'm nervous about. I'm worry not just last year's injury, just where he is in the ark of his career, with the injuries, the rumors of him retiring. I don't know, it's just It's just there's a lot of good guy. I like him. I like a lot of other quarterbacks. Coaching staff that's probably leading the odds

for first coach fired. Maybe maybe you know it's it's he's still the Lions quarterback that worries me a little bit. And and actually, you know, I like staff Is Stafford been a drafted by a different team, he'd have Super Bowl rings. It's just that I can't trust the Lions yet. By the way, Kenny, if they Stufford and Kenny Golladay were exactly, Kenny Golladay would have fourches receiver. Dang. Yeah, Kenny Golladay is really good. And Marvin Jones is good too.

He's got to stay healthy though. That's part of the deal, is we gotta get Marvin Jones to stay stay healthy, which is a big part of it. We wrap up every show with sleepers. We released three each show, we each release one. I've already given you just stone cold winners so far over the course of the Are you precocking over there? I am? As a matter of John ou Smith and Zack Moss and Paris Campbell and Baker Mayfield, all guys are all guys excellent excellent sleepers for your team.

Let's begin with Matt You're sleeper this week. I've got Dare talked nicely, thank you. We talked about some inside the five numbers on the last week's show, and one of the things that piqued my interest was the Tampa situation last year inside the five, Tampa's rushing attempt totals went to Peyton Barber with ten gone, then a gon Bo with seven, then then Ronald Jones with four and a gun was the only running back to receive a target inside the five. He had to Peyton Barber is gone,

Bruce Arians seemed to trust Dare more than Rojoe last year. Plus, let's talk about Ronald jones terrible pass blocking ratings from Pro Football Focus last year and the fact that he's looked if he at best catching the ball in camp. If Tom Brady's blown up once by a missed assignment by Rojoe, he may never see the field again. And Dario Gunbala could be the Tampa version of James White, which is a pretty decent you know, flex play and

every everyone turns into that. Ye alright, Scott, You're sleeper this week. Lavisca Chenult jr. Uh coaches, team writers, beat writers. They're all super impressed with him in camp. Gardnerman shoes calling him freak. Uh. If you've watched him, you know he's an absolute play maker, kind of kind of reminiscent of of Cordeo Patterson with the ball in his hands, just ridiculous with the ball in his hands. Um, he's

already running as the number two in that offense. D D. Westbrook is hurt, keeling cole Is Rubert to be released. Who's the other guy? Chris Conley? Hey, he was, he was for three games, for three games. We we have a beat on Chris Connelly on this show. Yeah, but Leavisca, he go get yourself some of visa. He's going so late. He's the number two there. I'm with you if you like Gardner Minshew at all. You know, and the game

scripts are just gonna be passing countily. Jacksonville could have the worst defense in the league, four nets, not getting seventy catches again or whatever. No, I think I'm with you on that. And it's weird to see these these rookie receivers are going so late this year. And we know that, you know, the last five six years, rookie receivers called some pop and just like nobody thinks that even we're gonna pop this year, which is bizarre. My sleeper, I want to play a game. See how many clues

you need to figure this out? Now, you guys already know, because already told you it is. I forgot my sleepers. Average draft position, and I'm not kidding, is three hundred sixty six. That sounds that is round of these thirty one round leagues. It is. It is round thirty one for this guy. So we're talking deep sleeper. He's going off the board as wide receiver one hundred five. Now this sleeper is a starting wide receiver on one of the highest scoring offenses in the NFL. Oh, I got it.

He was. He was a third round pick and so at wide receivers, so there was real equity put into him, and people obviously liked him out of college. Now do you have it yet, listeners, don't say it? Did you? Excellent? He's in his second year and in many times, second year is when it clicks for receivers. Years ago, it used to be three years, then over the past decade, really it's the second year for wide receivers is when it clicks. This is this player's second year. Do you

know who I'm talking about? Lat Yet last year this mystery player lad his team in yards per reception, downfield threatn for this mystery player, you know who it is. His quarterback is one of the universally drafted top two in fantasy football, and yet nobody's drafting Miles boykine I love it. Miles Boykin, second year wide receiver, getting strong praise from offensive coordinator Greg Roman this week, saying that he sees a giant step coming for Boykin this year.

The Ravens were the highest scoring offense in football last year, and he's a starting wide receiver with all this room to grow into the job. Miles Boykin one of my favorite deep deep sleepers. John O. Smith's made deep sleeper Zack Moss was, He's not anymore. This is super super off the radar, last pick of year draft Miles Boykin. By the way, uh uh twenty four four two? I know, no kidding, super fast, he's he was a six ft yes, four four two, that's freakish, freakish Scott. Before the show

we were talking a little bit. We've got about a minute and a half. Is there a player that you're already worried that we're all wrong about the player that you think, you know what, this guy could be good, but you can't get yourself just quite change your rankings yet. Yeah, I was, I was thinking about this earlier. I have Teddy Bridgewater ranked in the low twenties. Likes me maybe, Yeah, I feel like that's right. But the more I think about it, He's got all these weapons. Ian Thomas is

reportedly looking great. He's got, you know, replacing Greg Olsen. Thereel D J. Moore, J. Moore, Curtis Samuel, Yeah, yeah, Curtis Samuel, d J. Moore, Robby Anderson's now there on the outside, Christian McCaffrey, a lot of good dump off options for him. And that Carolina defense is not good. They're gonna be behind a lot. Uh. Teddy Bridgewater didn't have great yardage totals with New Orleans last year, but

they were before that. Yeah, and they were aheading a lot of those games, and that those were like ten win Vikings teams too, um with good defenses. By the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. I think you know, I wouldn't be surprised. I can't move them up my rankings, but I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the year, I'm like, how did I not see this coming? All the weapons, bad defense? What's the real upside for Teddy Bridgewater? What

you couldn't see what coming? I could see him. I could see him moving up into that QB twelve thirteen fourteen range with with two yards a game, a couple of touchdowns a game kind of guy that and and we started more weeks than we think we could. I think his upside to me feels like quarterback because manager absolutely he may not complete a pass of more than nine yards here. That's what I'm saying. I'm not moving

my rankings at all. But if at the end of the season that's what it is, you know we're gonna we'll play this segment back and go well done. We knew enough to know we were wrong in in August, we didn't do anything about it. You might be right about that. They're gonna be behind a lot. He's gonna pass a lot. He just needs all his receivers to be special after the catch because he can't deliver downfield. They're kind of all good at that. That helps there's

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