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JJ 'Aint A Walker

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Rookie expert Thor Nystrom breaks down all the meaningful quarterbacks along with some ideal landing spots for each one. Can Thor single-handedly move JJ McCarthy's draft stock into the NFL lottery? Find out! 

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2

Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now, here's your host, Paul Charian.

Speaker 1

Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Chargian. Very excited to start the deep dive on rookies with Thor and eystro Hey, buddy, Hey, how you doing. Oh God, It's gonna be great draft season. Just so much fun, so much learning, so much fresh blood. We're here in the we are it's all. It's already here. Yeah, combines in the rearview mirror. We've got Pro days looming, but not you know, not imminent I think quite yet for most of them. But a lot of exciting stuff. Here's the

here's the format we're gonna use. We're gonna doot. We're gonna do quarterbacks today here this show. Next week it'll be free agency. We're gonna talk about all the big free agent moves. Then we're gonna do running backs, rookie running backs, rookie wide receivers.

Speaker 3

Sound good. I can't wait, can't wait.

Speaker 1

Let's start quarterbacks, particularly Saley with the with the now almost I don't want to call it ubiquitous, just but so many more different leagues are now using super flex. Quarterbacks are so important right now, more so than ever before in fantasy, and I love it all my league.

Speaker 4

That's to me.

Speaker 1

Super flex is just now, that's that's how I play.

Speaker 4

It's a way to go. It is.

Speaker 1

Otherwise there's just more good quarterbacks than there are teams in your league, and that the value, just the value the whole position goes down.

Speaker 4

Totally agree.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so we're we're super flex super flex fans over here. I'd rather play in a two quarterback mandatory than a one quarterback league.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'd go that far.

Speaker 1

All right, let's let's roll up on sleep and quarterbacks. Now you've given me lists of guys you want to talk about. We're gonna hit on nine quarterbacks in this show. Nine rookie quarterbacks. Are they in the order you would draft them in?

Speaker 4

Yes?

Speaker 3

That you give him to me? Okay, and you have the right to change your mind.

Speaker 1

Okay, it's March, right, so now, yeah, that's right, you have the right. So we're not going to hold you to this let's start with quarterback number one, USC's Caleb Williams. Let's break him down.

Speaker 5

Yeah, six foot one, two hundred and fourteen pounds, didn't work out at the combine. We didn't get to see him throw, didn't get to see him work out. We howered, we did get to you exactly. We did get to see his podium session start out with a very rude question. I actually give him credit for not walking off the podium with that. But you know, talking about his game. Loved the physical ability, the kids got a cannon, super

creative bent to his game as well. You know, you add in the athleticism and this goes into the one nitpick you have about him. He loves to move around the pocket by time, arguably a little bit too much. That's the one thing he's gonna have to modulate in the NFL. His average time to throw last year three point one six seconds. It was also over three seconds the year before. That's when you get a little bit up into dangerous zone. I will say that's his prerogative,

though he likes to do that. It was his choice, right, Like it's not a slow processor's letting plays developed.

Speaker 4

That's exactly right.

Speaker 5

He wants the receivers to be allowed to break those routes off. He wants to play playground ball. I mean, that's what he does. He can he can denote that down the field, he keeps his eyes up and then he can get the pass off any arm angle, immediately throw it downfield from any arm angle, and get it even down to the third level. So that's what his game is. But he's gonna have to modulate that a little bit. He's gonna have to play with instructure a

little bit more. But his out of structure game is absolutely fabulous. And obviously the physical tools are elite.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And he's going to help fantasy players with some mobility as well. Absolutely, And you know we all know that. You know, at the end of the day, you can just score so many points that way. Talk to me about how you think Caleb Williams mobility will translate to the NFL. Will he and we don't know the landing spot, yeah, but presumably the Bears, you know, will he be used

as a runner? Do you think or do you think just the past, you know, the pocket passing is so good and well and out of pocket as well, that maybe you know, he's just gonna it's gonna be more like justin Herbert you know where Yeah, well spill sprinkling, you know, like a run here and there, and you know, but they won't teams won't capitalize on his mobility outside his you know, improvisational scrambling.

Speaker 5

Yeah, in terms of the stats, I think you hit it on the head. I think it's gonna be more like Herbert as opposed to a guy like Lamar Jackson. He's using his legs to buy the time in the pocket, not to try to hurt you outside of it. That's why you see that elevated time to throw inside the pocket.

Speaker 4

But you will get a bit more.

Speaker 5

I do think you'll see extra touchdowns and different stuff like that. You can use him around the goal line. He gives you that extra option, right, the bootleg concept, stuff like that. If the first option is not there, he can just take it himself. Do you have an NFL comp for Caleb Williams Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's a pretty good comp. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 5

It's the same sort of thing of extending those plays, the creativity and then that ability.

Speaker 4

To just launch it, just launch it.

Speaker 5

He has the it's not only the vision to see it and the it's the gumption as well, and then that arm strength, you know, a three quarters angle, get it fifty yards downfield, go to the opposite hash all that stuff. It's very reminiscent of Aaron Rodgers. I don't like that ubiquitous comp of Pat Mahomes. They're not the same body type and Pat Mahomes what he does, there's never been anyone down.

Speaker 4

There's no comp to that.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is almost not fair, but I think that is a lot closer for Caleb Williams than Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 3

Let's go to Jaden Daniels from LSU.

Speaker 1

This is if you've got the first pick in a super flex Dynas Steve format, this is gonna be a tough call.

Speaker 4

Yeah it is.

Speaker 1

Jaden Daniels is going to pound. He's gonna pound running games. He's gonna be He's you know, he's gonna be one of these guys where any given week you could be looking at eighty rushing yards.

Speaker 5

This is the guy that's gonna give you the rushing utility. He you know, put up more than a thousand rushing yards last season. You saw it throughout his collegiate career start out with HERM Edwards at Arizona State. He was the face of the franchise at Arizona State, his Jadan Daniels. His career stagnated there after the third year went to LSU. Brian Kelly went about recreating him as a passer. The

first year at LSU. At LSU this is twenty twenty two, they focused on Jaden Daniels, let's stop putting the ball up for grabs. They were able to address that in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. They were able to get explosive plays while still keeping the turnovers down. So you saw all the skill sets start to flower up at that point. He brings two elite traits into the NFL in conjunction and number one, he's an elite downfield drower, one of the better ones we've seen coming to.

Speaker 4

The NFL last decade.

Speaker 5

You have that with the scrambling ability, so he you know, he stays in the pocket, stays in the pocket, admirably keeps those eyes downfield. The second it's not there anymore, you got a problem because he just shoots out of the pocket, immediately accelerates out really quickly. He'll be in the second level before the defenders even know he's out, you know, and all of a sudden, the sirens are

going off in the state. It's like in Jurassic Park when the t Rex has gotten out of the cage and then all of a sudden, everyone's like, oh crap, now we have to corral jayde and Daniels, you know, and he's a real problem out of there. He has to learn how to get down though. You've seen some of those highlights on Twitter, you know, and different stuff

like that where he just gets smoked. He's a skinny kid and he's a tough kid, so he takes He took all kinds of shots in college with the guy descending on him coming downhill and Jade Daniels, you know, they've run into him, be like a cartoonish type hit. Jade Daniels will go five yards back. Something he has to learn in the NFL. But he has those two superpowers. Learned these past couple of years how to have those quiet feet in the pocket. The intermediate stuff, the accuracy

got better, the touch got better with everything else. So you know, the developmental curve is definitely pointing up with him.

Speaker 1

If you have the first pick in your super draft super flex league right now, who is it going to be?

Speaker 5

I'd say Caleb, depending on on the the you know, like, if we're saying Caleb's with the Bears, Jayden Daniels is what.

Speaker 1

Which assume he's with Washington, which is where he's likely to go.

Speaker 4

Well, man, it's tough. It is close.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna I'm gonna side ever so slightly with Caleb, but it's it is really close.

Speaker 1

It might depend a little bit on who your other quarterback is. If you want to go for the upside play.

Speaker 5

If you're swinging for the friend Daniels, Yeah, because he's going to bring you the rushing utility and then and then you you know, theoretically you're in Cliff Kingsbury's offense as well.

Speaker 4

You have the receivers there.

Speaker 5

I know Chicago's receivers have gotten better by Washington's got good receivers.

Speaker 4

Now they have.

Speaker 1

Good, not not great receivers. I think that's true. We'll call it that. Let's move over to Drake May. This is so interesting because he's so different from Williams and Daniels.

Speaker 3

They're all three very very different. I've seen some.

Speaker 1

Drake May hate out there. Chris Sims put him at six on his board of running back six my former colleague, Yeah, there's I mean there's some Warner had him sixth.

Speaker 4

Oh wow.

Speaker 3

Yeah for Drake May.

Speaker 1

So this is your pocket passer. Last in our show last week, you compete, You comped him to Justin Herbert. There is you know, he has some mobility, not lots, but he's got some. But that's not what he's there for. He is going to be Drake May is going to be your traditional pocket passer.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, and and yeah.

Speaker 5

I think the the aspect of his game that's been a bit overblown. It's that the mobility thing, and and and out of the pocket thing, and you know, the op platform different stuff like that. Where he's really good, it's in the pocket. The downfield stuff. He has, the howitzer arm, everything like that does that. But yeah, that you know, as far as the rushing utility, I don't see as much of that that translate into the NFL.

Stuff like that outside the pocket. Grade last year is forty six percentile under pressure percentile last season he was fifty first percentile. Those are the things that I don't think translate as well to the NFL. But the arm absolutely is is spectacular and he's going to be a good pocket passer in the NFL. But I would caution people against thinking that he's going to be like a Josh Allen type in terms of that rushing utility translating one to one.

Speaker 1

He does have that big, bigger body though he does.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, I mean around the goal line potentially, you know, the one two yeard type.

Speaker 1

I can se him being affect touchdowns there.

Speaker 4

But yeah, that the rest of it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but the passing is great and if if there's it's you could you could make a case that Drake may just as a passer, is as NFL ready as anybody in this draft, right for sure.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I mean he ran Philongo offense twenty twenty two and showed that he could do all the vertical stuff that you would want. Last year went into a more what they would call a pro style thing with Lindsey there at UNC wasn't as creative of an offense, but more pro style type scheme there. So he's shown he can do a lot of different stuff work with a lot of different guys as well, So he is definitely pro ready. All right, So you've got Drake May third, and I

have him actually four, I have him fourth. I do, of course, all right, so these are not Oh yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 3

I was looking at two different lists.

Speaker 1

Let's go to your number three quarterback. So we'll back up a step. Michigan's JJ McCarthy. You've now, you know, you've been pounding the drum for JJ McCarthy for several weeks. Now, I think you're single handedly moving the needle odd for several people. And I know in this town where we in Minneapolis here, where you've got a lot of different outlets and different ways to reach people, there's been a real interest in JJ McCarthy as a first round pick.

So let's talk about JJ McCarthy and let's break his game down little bit. Yeah, yeah, there are parts of it that I know you absolutely love. The athleticism, decision making.

Speaker 3

Let's talk more about JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 5

Yeah, he's really good off platform, really get out of structure, out of the pocket, throwing on the move in general, the improvisational stuff I really like about his game, and I don't think he gets enough credit for fitting that game into Jim Harbaugh's pro style system. When he went to Michigan, he was starting. By his second season, he displaced Kate McNamara. Kate McNamara, guy who stole the job of Joe Milton, another guy in this class. JJ goes

in and steals his job. And then by year three, his true year three junior season, JJ wins the national title. This past season, he's got a bazooka for an arm. At the combine. You know, just this past week he had a sixty one mile per hour max velocity throw. The record that they have tracked there was sixty two. Josh Allen had a sixty two and then Joe Milton matched it this time.

Speaker 4

So that's nuts. Yeah, big time arm on him.

Speaker 5

And he can throw on the run with the velocity all three sectors of the field. He has that, and then he's a really really good athlete. Four fives is I mean, that's a safe assumption for what he's gonna run. Jim Harbod's mentioned that he runs in the four fours. We'll have to see on that because he didn't run at the combine. He did, however, weigh in fifteen pounds heavier than we thought he would weigh in at.

Speaker 4

That's a lot.

Speaker 3

That's a big difference.

Speaker 5

A big difference, and he ran the fifth fastest three cone in the entire event, including quarterbacks, all positions. Wow, at fifteen pounds heavier than we thought he was going to weigh in at.

Speaker 4

And you see that is.

Speaker 1

How does three How does the three cone translate to quarterback?

Speaker 4

Though?

Speaker 5

In the open well, both in the pocket making people miss, and then when he's out in the open field he is very slippery. So I mean it's you know, other positions you could argue that it's more valuable, but with the quarterback position, it's not a nothing burger because he does go out there, he scrambles, and he does make people miss.

Speaker 1

They're probably spending too much time time out the mobility of these quarterbacks. But I just I know from fantasy owners care about that for sure, because you know, it really does change the you know, changes both the floor and the ceiling of your quarterbacks so much.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and I think his floor is higher than he's gotten credit for. And I also think that his ceiling is too. Those things that we're talking, the improvisational thing, the out of the pocket thing, outer structured thing, throwing off platform, those are very rare traits of his I think those are going to translate for JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1

Let's go to Washington's Michael Pennix. We touched on him last week. There are things that we that we do like about him, particularly in the pocket. Let's let's break him down, and he's got a lot. There are plenty of concerns here to address with Penix as well, but there's a real chance he gets drafted in the middle of the second round to a team that needs him to start this year.

Speaker 4

For sure.

Speaker 5

Yeah, JJ McCarthy was a big winner from the combine. I would say Michael Penix was the other big one from the quarterbacks for two reasons. Pennis had a very good throwing session as well, but the other one probably even the bigger one for Michael Pennix. The reports, that is, medicals came back clean, which was absolutely enormous for Michael Pennix.

After his first four years in college, every single one of them ended with the season ending injury when he was at Indiana his last two years at Washington, got through both those seasons healthy. Then with the clean medical reports as well, the reports of those that is huge. Obviously had the really good seasons the last couple ones he has the live arm we have seen that was ludicrously productive the last couple of years in that Kaylin de Boor offense thrown to Rome with Dunza to McMillan

and the polk as well. You love him in the pocket when he has his platform under him, when he doesn't have to move, that's when you see him ripping those throws off. He can get it wherever he wants to go. That's when he's really dangerous. The way that I think of Penix basically is as a sniper. The more he moves off of his spot, the more you can move him off the spot, the more you depreciate

his accuracy on the move. When he's under pressure, that's when the accuracy goes down and the decision making starts to get a little bit wonky. But when you have the protection around him, he can stay on his spot. That's when he's super duper dangerous.

Speaker 1

All right, let's talk about Well, let me ask you more broadly about penis. Do you find it players quarterbacks can develop into Can they develop accuracy when they're on the run. If we don't see it in college that guys can't deliver accurately when they're forced out of the pocket. Is that a trait you can get better at that.

Speaker 5

I think it's tougher to do because it's a mechanical thing and it's a field thing as well, and you know, in a touch thing and a field thing. I do think the one thing of Pennis's game that we didn't see as much at Washington that perhaps we might see a little bit more in the NFL. I've heard that Pennis was going to run faster at the combine then

people think significantly faster than he thinks. And and by the way, the prop market out there, people that were monitoring this stuff, Penix's forty times was coming down, coming down, coming down, and people out there were shocked, like, why is this coming down? I heard out of the Penix's

training camp whatever that he was running very fast. I think the one thing that you might see in the NFL a little bit more that might surprise people is Penix perhaps running a little bit more, you know, being used as a scrambler. I don't know if you'll see him throwing more effectively on the run. That would be, you know, remains to be seen, but I think you might he might utilize his legs a little bit more, depending on the system that he goes to.

Speaker 1

Okay, all right, let's take a break. We came back bone Nicks. There's some people that love Bone Nicks and people that hate him. I mean it is super polarizing. By the way, Penix, U are you with me middle of the second round?

Speaker 4

I or him? Yes?

Speaker 1

So let's do some landing spots the Buccaneers if they don't sign a long term deal with Baker.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yes, that's possible. I love that too, because they love to throw downfield. I think that is a really good fed that. In fact, that might be the top one for me. How about the Raiders I like that one too. Yeah, and he could go in and compete immediately.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he'still probably be the next week one starter up? What about the Vikings? I don't like the second.

Speaker 4

I think that.

Speaker 5

Kevin O'Connell would have to modulate his system to allow Penix to fit into it because of that throwing on the run thing.

Speaker 1

The other thing about the Penis, But Kirk doesn't throw in the run. I mean, you know, it's a system has been built around a non mobile quarterback, and even though he can run, he.

Speaker 5

Does bootleg though there's bootleg concepts and also the layering stuff over the middle. You know, he likes to do the layering stuff attacking over the middle of the field. Penis the one sort of buggaboo about his throwing profile. He loves to attack the sidelines and then and then deep and that. But he didn't do it the middle of the field as much. So that would O'Connor would have to modulate the system a little bit for that.

Speaker 1

Penix to Pittsburgh, you know they need middle he would absolutely start for them right right away, right away. Yeah, yeah, mister Pickett would be sabby exactly.

Speaker 3

I agreed. We'll take a break bow Knicks when we come back.

Speaker 1

Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly, Paul Jarchi and Thorn Eistrom. You can follow a throor on Twitter at thor k U. You were in a Kansas shirt right now, yeah, Octouk, Yeah absolutely, ore Agast bow Knicks is maybe the most polarizing quarterback in this draft class. It's uh, he's generally getting Round two mock draft evaluations right now, but there are some people that have him as high as the third best quarterback in this draft class.

Speaker 5

Help me get a little smarter on bon Knicks. He would be more of a round three type guy for me. You know, you give him the flowers for the great year last year and the year before forty five to three TDI and that's awesome, which is awesome. You know, seventy five percent completions last two years combined. He did improve as a passer the last couple of years, but he was flattered by the offense that he played in.

I think that offensive system addressed the deficiencies in Bonix's game more that we saw at Auburn, more than improvements in Bonickx's game. The things that I'm talking about, sitting back in the pocket, surveying your options, throwing downfield, the pocket presence thing, the downfield arm, different stuff like that you saw at Auburn. Sometimes he'd be a crash test dummy in the pocket that you know, the free rusher coming from behind, smacking them around. You'd see balls fluttering

on him going downfield, different stuff like that. You didn't love when when he'd have to sit back there going through the progressions, a lot of times you'd see mistakes with that. The Oregon offensive system inoculated him from a lot of that kind of stuff. A spread system where the ball got out immediately. Just some stats to point at this. You know, I was talking about the average time to throw for Kayleb Williams. It was the exact opposite with Bonex one of the quickest in the class

to throw two point four to four seconds. That was right there with Austin Reid of Western Kentucky. The classic air raid offense to just get it out immediately. Austin Reid was two point four to three seconds. It's just a Mickey Mouse offense. Bnick six point eight a dot last year. That's the lowest in this class. I mean even Austin Reid and his Mickey Mouse offense was eight

point one. So the entire Oregon offense was just based on immediately getting the ball out to one of these awesome athletes on the perimeter and then letting him run. Troy Franklin, different guys like that, or Bucky Irving, you know, on a screen past Jordan James, the other guy they had. They had some of the tight ends, different stuff like that.

That was what the offense was. And and you know, you you credit Bonnicks for the pre snap reads and the timing of that short stuff, different stuff like that, But I still don't trust him to do the other stuff that he struggled with at Auburn.

Speaker 4

We certainly didn't see it at Oregon.

Speaker 5

That's a lot of the stuff that you're in the NFL that you need to do to beat NFL defenses. So that's why I'm a little bit down on him. What do you like about bo Nick's game? I like that stuff, the shorten, the intermediate stuff. You know, it's a guy who can come in off the bench and you can trust him to do that. He's not going to put the ball up for grabs if you don't

stretch him, you know, beyond his limitations. If you're going to ask him to sit back there in the pocket and try to beat a defense deep, try to read a defense, different stuff like that, he's going to make mistakes, you know, and then that's when you know you sit them back in the pockets, that's when he's going to start to get hit around stuff like that. He's going to start to put the ball up for grabs. But if it's those quick hitting concepts, different stuff like that,

you can manufacture stuff with the efficiency stuff. You have to give up the explosive element of your offense to just take the efficiency stuff. That's the stuff that Bonix could do. But to me, he's he's a high end backup or potentially a very low end starter in the NFL.

Speaker 1

Could bo Nix be a project quarterback in that you need to teach him how to what three seconds in the pocket looks like, and you could do that over a year or two as he learns behind some other veterans starter, he.

Speaker 5

Could potentially get a little bit better at that thing. But first of all, he doesn't have the arm strength you know, to go deep. You do see those balls flutter. So even if he got better at sort of reading and the sort of the pocket presence thing that I'm talking about, as far as that stuff goes, I still don't think he would be awesome at attacking the deep sector of the field.

Speaker 1

Okay, Spencer Rattler had to reinvent himself at South Carolina did it pretty successfully. I mean, at one point a few years ago, we thought Spencer Rattler could be the first player taken in a draft draft. And then you know, the wheels came off, he had to transfer and it looked bad for him, and then he's managed to rebuild himself into a draftable quantity here, help me break down where Spencer Rattler is at this stage.

Speaker 5

He's a fascinating proposition. His first year is starting for Lincoln Riley. He was the first quarterback that Lincoln Riley ever started, where he was a hand pick guy out of high school. You know, prior to that, Lincoln Riley started a procession of the transfers. You know that came in Kyler, Murray, Baker, Mayfield different Jalen Hurts was the

other one. And then Rattler comes in the first year that he started for Lincoln Riley, he had the best PFF graded season under pressure out of anyone except for the Pat mahomes last season at Texas Tech.

Speaker 3

Wow.

Speaker 5

So as the second best one in PFF history. Then you know, obviously things went downhill from there. That he had the season with Lincoln where he had the one foot out the door, was negotiating with LSU, eventually goes to USC Caleb Williams was nipping on his heels and then takes his job.

Speaker 4

Different stuff like that.

Speaker 5

Spencer Ratler had a clear, uh crisis of confidence. There was practices where the student newspaper they were up on.

Speaker 4

The the the roof of.

Speaker 5

The building, trying to look onto the practice field to see who was getting the QB one reps. Spencer Ratler didn't want to talk to the media and different stuff like that. He came into college and with the QB one show and he did not quit himself well with that stuff.

Speaker 4

Different stuff like that.

Speaker 5

So then he you know, was set about his journey to Sell Carolina and he had uh a come to Jesus moment, right, I mean, like yeah, And so that's what happened. And in year one at Sell Carolina, it was a really bad fit in terms of the thing that Rattler liked. It's sort of like well with Caleb Williams himself, he likes to buy the time in the and sort of go out on the tightrope and play with fire. He likes he does not mind pressure at all.

He likes to scramble around, allow his receivers to break off the routes, different stuff like that.

Speaker 4

You run.

Speaker 5

At Oklahoma, he had all these you know, sleek athletes on the outside, and he had a really strong offensive line, different stuff like that. It facilitated that so he could do the high wire act and he was awesome at it. I mean, that's when everyone was like, Oh my gosh, this guy is he's pine sized, Pat Mahomes, this guy's gonna be the number one pick in the draft. But then when he goes to South Carolina, he was playing behind this rancid offensive line, so he was trying to

do the same thing. He was just getting immediately sacked or else. He would just try to throw the ball up for grabs whatever, and you know, turnovers and different stuff like this. He was terrible that for a season last year, so that was in twenty twenty two. Last year, he modulated his game and the coaching staff modulated the scheme of bet to make it a better marriage. There was more instructure type stuff, quick passes to try to

keep the pass rusher Bade. The offensive line at South Carolina was still tear, but they did more of the quick hitting stuff try to keep the pass rush of Bay. But Spencer Ratler also got smarter with the way that he was playing, you know two more you know to you know, be better with.

Speaker 4

That kind of stuff. So I the thing that you like about.

Speaker 5

Him, it's his arm and you like the the gump shom with that as well the pocket passing stuff.

Speaker 4

He's not a good athlete.

Speaker 5

As he showed at the combine, he was the worst tester at every single thing the quarterbacks were doing, but the pocket passing stuff. He has really good vision back there and he's got the gump shot. He can get it downfield. That's what I like about him. I also the humbling of him. We talked to him down to Mobile. Really nice kid, very generous with his time, different stuff like that. He's turned it around in terms of all that stuff.

Speaker 1

Spencer Rattler, if you were to drop him onto a team that could maybe have him sit for a year or two and maybe finds his way into a starting role later on.

Speaker 3

What teams are we looking at?

Speaker 4

I think the Rams would be a really good fit for him. The Rams.

Speaker 5

Yeah, they took a shot. Yeah, they took a shot on Stetson Bennett last year. I think Spencer Ratler is a better version of that, and and a more mature version of that narrowly as well. Yeah, so I think they're a team that could take a shot on him. Pittsburgh, if you know, if they don't get one of the aforementioned guys that we were talking about, could be one.

Speaker 1

The New York Jets after Aaron Rodgers and he yes, they.

Speaker 5

Need to get their contingency plan and then the Buccaneers if they didn't get Michael, I think Pennix is the best fit for the Buccaneers, like I mentioned before, but if they missed out on him, I think Rattler's a guy that would make some sense for them too.

Speaker 1

All right, let's wrap up with two guys I don't want to spend a ton of time on because I don't think they've really got my It sounds like they don't necessarily have NFL starting trades here.

Speaker 3

But Michael Pratt from Tulane.

Speaker 5

Pratt's a guy who's been around for a long time. A couple of years ago they beat usc. Pratt was the big him and Tajy spears with the guys that turned around tu Lane. He's a very strong athlete, had an eight point two to three raz He has an NFL's frame six three, two hundred and twenty pounds about So.

Speaker 4

That's what you like about him.

Speaker 5

He's I see him as sort of like a discount Daniel Jones, like a knockoff to Daniel Jones. Like that, he gives you the mobility aspect, he gives you the short area out to the intermediate accuracy. He doesn't put the ball up for grabs, doesn't doesn't have a howitzer, So you have that kind of stuff with him. He's a smart kid, he has he has the leadership, people liked him at Tulane. My concerns with him it's, you know, the lack of arm strength and then also the medicals

he had. He had a series of concussions at Tulane. He also had a serious shoulder injury at Tulane. So I'm wondering how long his you know, the career is going to go on different stuff like that if he has to play a whole bunch. But I do think he could be a backup in the NFL for a very long time if he's not forced into action.

Speaker 1

All right, Joe Milton threw the ball sixty two miles an hour at the Combine. Gigantic arm.

Speaker 5

Not a lot else, right, Yes, absolutely ridiculous arm. Might have the strongest arm in the NFL. From the day he gets drafted. Shade over sixty five, two hundred and forty pounds. He has that Bazuka arm. He's also a really good athlete. It was twenty two, twenty three miles per hour. They clocked him on the thing on one.

Speaker 1

Of his touchdown runs.

Speaker 4

Stupid.

Speaker 5

He also can do standing backflips, which has done before a game. Is a different stuff like that, So you love all that stuff. The problem with Joe Milton is, I mean, you know, he got recruited in by Michigan, so he was being groomed by Jim Harbad. They gave him the starting job. Then he gets bench for Cad McNamara,

who was then summarily bench for JJ McCarthy. So then Joe Milton goes to Tennessee where he was being groomed by Josh Hipel and was going to get to start in the best quarterback friendly system in college football, then gets bench for Hendon Hooker. After he wins that job, he sticks around, did get to start last season, but you didn't get to see the whole manifestation of that Bazuka arm because he excused conservative because he's trying to keep the ball out of Harm's way, because he doesn't

read the field very well. He has absolute scattershot accuracy, and again he doesn't see the field well. The pocket presence isn't isn't there either? If Josh Hipel couldn't get through to him. If Jim Harbaugh couldn't get through to him, you wonder if any other NFL coaches. I will say he's a great kid. I think he won the Senior Bowl Award for being like the guy who is nicest.

Speaker 4

Audulton.

Speaker 5

And he's also has the most physical ability. I comp him to Cardial Jones just for that stupid arm twelve gage. Okay, but yeah, the light's gonna have if you know, one in a thousand shot, the light goes on. Now you're cooking with gas, but it is a one in a thousand shot.

Speaker 1

All right, great job on the quarterbacks. Well done. We'll look forward to talking to you more about running backs and a forthcoming show. Thor and I guy Trey Benson love it. Oh Man, super excited. I can't wait for that. Great job on these quarterbacks. Thank you for listening. We'll be back next week with more Fantasy Football Weekly. Fantasy

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