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Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Chargian co host today. After kind of a fair amount of time off. Scott Fish welcome back.

Yes, yes, but it's pretty normal this time. Last year, between February and June and July, I only did one show. That's not four and a half month.

But that's not it's not gonna be.

This is my second show.

All right, good we want you back.

Yes, we miss you and I'm excited to be in your house again. I wore my swimsuit. I see that pool is under construction, but I can swim at.

The boat we're adding in the Olympic lanes under the pool. It was traded for Paris's my my hair stylist. They're not barbers anymore. Okay, my hair stylist decided you wanted to get a pool put in your yard. They sold their boat and then started collecting money. Do you know much a pool a just a regular backyard pool costs to put in.

I don't even have the slightest clues. Somody going to take a complete guess at twenty eight thousand dollars.

Add about one hundred thousand dollars to that.

What yes, Oh my gosh.

So they sell their boat and they save money and they scrimp and they put together over one hundred thousand dollars to get just a standard suburban backyard pool put in. That's hand off the money to pool guy and he goes a wall. He never did anything, kept the money and took off for Kentucky. What and he did it to like ten fifteen people in the twin cities. They're just out over one hundred thousand dollars. There's nothing they can do.

There's no recourse at all. Nope, that's the.

Police are not interested, you know. It's he's filed bankruptcy to try to protect himself, but they don't. But he was sitting on all this cash. Nobody cares, nobody's following up, and they're never gonna get paid.

That's I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine.

I know I can't either. One hundred thousand dollars just gone.

Man, Oh that's street. Tell the story, dig your own pool, get a shovel shot Aston and Sino Man did it so anyone could do it. And he did that in summer, so I mean a school year.

I'm not a big pool guy.

No, I'm not either.

It's just I don't know. I'm just not my thing.

I get in the water with them. I'm not a hot tub guy though. That feels like no, I'm not.

Is it because of the germs?

Uh? You know, like if it's over chlorinated and stuff and cleaned regularly and stuff, then sure it's fine.

But what if it's just your hot tub for you and your family. You're already sharing germs.

Maybe I guess I like saunas. Yeah, I don't know. On the hot tub, I remember, you know, yeah, let's we can move on. But yeah, I'm not a huge hot tub guy. It's it's okay in a hotel. Hotel, I need something to do in the pool.

I guess the pool when I'll swim a little out wide. I just I need to gamify the pool experience that I say, water polo, two.

Young boys footballs and stuff.

Yeah right, they have throw I gotta throw football. I gotta gamify the pool experience.

Uh.

For those of you who listened to last week's show, you know that what we're what we're doing here is breaking down breaking A lot of people were plus fifteen seconds, Ye, plus fifteen seconds. When is this thing going to get interesting? Plus fifteen seconds?

Uh.

We're breaking down all the teams in each of the conferences. Last week we did the NFC and AFC East. This week we're doing the South. We're heading south. We're heading south, the AFC South, the NFC South. We're highlighting the off season moves. The rosters have stabilized, now, yeah, pretty much. You know they were like ninety nine percent. You know

Give some overall thoughts on each of the teams. Ye, at least the fantasy football you know, relevant relevant to one. Yes, to have stabilized. I like that you took all the good teams too, did I? I was joking I have Carolina on my I feel like I don't mean good, I mean fun teams, but.

Teams I may have may not. I did pick my now Houston. I went on a way again because I'm a big Texans. Guys, this is my team. I think they're going to win the Super Bowl or at least go to the Super Bowl.

I like it.

So I did purposely give myself the Texans. The others are mostly just start throws. Okay, all right, let's start with Tennessee. I'll let you go first. Let's let's a lot of changes for Tennessee.

Yes, yes, coaching changes, ground and running game. Derrick Henry gone, Mike Vrabel gone. They bring in Brian Callahan, who uh was OC of the Bengals for five years, but similar to Kevin O'Connell with the Rams, he didn't call the play. Zach Taylor called the plays for the Bengals, so we'll we'll see what happens there. Brought in his old high school friend Nick Colts from the Jags. They went to

This I'm telling I'm telling you they made a mistake.

But he threw four touchdowns in that first game.

They drafted JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I yet had that four touchdown game that first game, four touchdowns. You know where I'm going with this. Yes, the rest of the year four touchdowns. Wow, that's Will Levis was awful. He had the lowest completion rate of any starter last year. He's I'm I don't understand why teams croll out these guys. You know, I realized he was a high second round pick last year, right, right, and so you've got some

Let's make it.

Let's go get another guy and find out what happens.

Yeah, I don't. I don't get keep drafting until you hit it. That's Malik Willis two years ago. Draft Levis the next year. He didn't seem like it just keep drafting quarterbacks. Yes, they brought in Mason Rudolph to sit behind him. I don't know. It's not a good quarterback in situation, but they're doing all they can on the with the other weapons to try to give him some help. They brought in Tony Pollard. They have Taja Spears.

Yeh.

Both just incredible pass catchers. They combined for well over one hundred catches last year on separate teams. Obviously, yes, but Spears was actually a little more efficient than Tony Pollard. If you watched Tony Pollard last year, that would surprise you at all. But they're both very versatile, and they can take those dump offs from Will Levis maybe add up that completion percentage. They have DeAndre Hopkins. They paid Calvin Ridley to come in too much. I thought, really,

Buddy, I knew it was bad.

I know it is that bad for forty seven million guaranteed for a man.

God bless his agent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they brought in Tyler Boyd, which I think is also another good signing there. So yeah, I add those. Now Treylon Burks doesn't have to start, but yeah, he's you know, as a fourth option, he's okay. They got Chicka Kwank Konker still, I see. I like Chicka Kwank, but he does he does things that aren't great on the football field at times, but sometimes he can really hit that scene and look really good. So maybe he's just got to grow. I don't think he's

Look, We'll Levis has the opportunity to get better. Of course in year two. I just didn't see the traits that I wanted to in year one to make me feel confident about it. So I don't want to make it sound like I'm writing it writing off his career. I'm just not very optimistic.

Yeah, yeah, it could be. It could be, And we don't know how well Brian Callahan and Nickolets can develop a quarterback. Yeah, we don't really know the level they've been. You know Brian with Burrow or you know Nicholets last year with Lawrence, etcetera. We really don't know. We'll see.

So I asked this for each for each of the teams. Does the passing game for the Texans Titans get better or worse this year?

I think it has to get better just based on who they have and more volume if that makes sense.

Like great, I don't. Yeah, you know, when you're not the most run heavy team in the league. Yeah, it'll it'll probably help. And then running game, yeah, better or worse.

It's probably worse. But fantasy wise, there's gonna be a lot of pass catching that'll help, So that that'll help. I think it's going to be fantasy points. It might be similar, but it might be split between two people and it might come from pass catching instead of Derrick Henry for one hundred and fifty yards and three scores.

At this time last year, Tony Pollard was beginning of the second round selection. Yeah, now in Tennessee, which runner would you draft first? Taj Spears Tony Pollard?

Oh first. It is tough because I feel like they're really going to give it give, really going to give Pollard as much is he can. They really really want to get him involved, but I like, this is your classic who do you want it? Their ADP at the States the question where all of us they're gonna say, Taj Spears if he's the lower guy, but you're posing hey.

At the same price, at the same price, they're both available, and you've decided you're drafting a Tennessee running back.

Here here's the thing. I think I'm going Spears, And here's why. Not only is he more efficient, and I think he's got more juice. We saw him in training camp against the Vikings, and we saw him last year enough to see that he's he's got some some speed to him. He's got that. I'm I'm losing track of the word here, but I think I'd rather have him because where I'm going to be drafting these guys is probably my RB three or four and that point I got my one and two. I want the upside guy.

Yeah, Spears feels like the upside guy.

Yeah.

I think his you know, just the skill set. He's got some electric moves. Yes, honey, Pollard, I no one play should affect me as much as this one play from Tony Pollard last year. Cowways have the ball at the two or three yard line of their opponent. They hand the ball off to Tony Pollard. He's going off left tackle and he's got the entire way from the left tackle to the to the cone, no defenders. And at the point of the handoff, I'm saying, I'm thinking

Weird how he was the opposite guy I know two years before. I know.

It's such a fickle game.

I know.

Yeah, let's go to the Houston Texans. I love the Texans, all right. So the passing game gets a big change with perpetual ingrade Stefan Diggs arriving in Houston. He expands the receiver room in a way that might not be as fantasy friendly as we would like because Nico Collins are there, Tank Dell is there, Dalton Schultz comes back, you know, as we all know, and this worries me

It's not that a player of Diggs's level came into the situation. It's Diggs coming into this situation.

All the personality and the baggage and everything.

Yeah, we've seen.

Now Collins and Diggs both have ADPs inside the top thirty. They're separated by just five picks. So I'll ask you similar question. Would you rather have Collins or would you rather of Digs Collins?

That's not even I don't even think that's close to me. I think Collins is the star in the making. But we've we've been on the Collins train for.

Years, you and I have. But when we looked like morons two years ago, we kept talking about Colins. So Collins, here's the separator. I'm gonna give you some data on Collins and Diggs. Collins on deep balls passes of twenty or more yards last year, Get this, he caught eleven of twelve passes on deep balls.

It doesn't even feel surprising, But.

Isn't that amazing?

Still amazing?

Now, let's go to Diggs. Diggs got thrown to sixteen times on deep passes from Josh Allen last year. You want to guess how many catches he had on those deep balls.

I'm gonna it feels like it's bad, just the way your team. I'm gonna go with seven.

Four, three interceptions and no touchdown.

That's like twenty five percent of my math.

That is correct, well done. Here's at the end of the day. I want my receivers to get downfield passes right, I want big plays. I want that, and Nico Collins can deliver it. Stefan Diggs doesn't do that.

Can you Can you make the argument that because Nico Ken, and because we know Dell Ken as well, that Digg zill run really free in the middle. Maybe in short but again, we've talked about this all the way back to the days of Juju Smith Schuster with that you need volume in touchdowns. You do and if you don't do it though it's not fantasy.

You mentioned Tank Dell. He returns from last year's broken leg and last month's nightclub shooting. 'tis but a scratch. I understand she's a flesh wound, but still wow, not great sign he is he is participating in limited fashion in in off season workouts. Other receivers on the team like Robert Woods and Noah Brown and John Matchi are basically plaster to the bench here. I mentioned Dalton Schultz signed a new three year deal in the off season.

That's incredible.

He posted finished the season posting a touchdown to interception ratio of twenty three to five. His average distance of throw was eight and a half yards, the longest of any rookie since they started tracking the stat and his deep passing was fantastic, completing fifty nine percent of his deep balls that was second best in the entire league, not him on rookies the whole league. He had the second best deep pass completion percentage eight touchdowns on deep passes,

It is CJ Stroud, Yes on CJ Stroud, just how well he understands and knows the game. Have you watched any of the clips of him and Michael Parsons going through plays talking about the game. That guy tends Apparently c J. Stowd talks about the game like on a Peyton Manning level. It's unbelievable how well he understands the They would go back and forth. Mike could be like, well if you did that, I'm gonna do this, and CJ's well, then I would do this, and I'm like, wow,

You know, it's still it's a physical game, but it's also a cerebral game. Yeah, and depending on your position especially so. Does the passing game get better for the Texans this year? And I think it does.

I think c J.

Stroud matures to another level. He only had he had twenty three touchdowns last year, that number he could have thirty three. I mean he could easily be for good for ten more touchdowns this year and then you get Tank del back on the full season. You know, I just think this and add ad Indgs, so it gets better.

That's a lot.

It's a lot of work. He has not topped four point one yards per carry Joe Mixon in five years, and four point one per carry is not a lot.

And a lot of people will not a lot of people, one person at least, but I know other people have mentioned it. Zach Taylor ran him up the middle into defenders so much that I wonder if that hurts, like his yards per carrying things like that. But also that's really painful touches. Those are touches that are really wear you down.

So last year Mixon dropped or drooped, depending on how you want to look at it, down to running back thirty five by Pro Football Focus. His elusiveness dropped to running back fifty, and his yards after contract contact to drop to fifty one. You know, everything on mixing looks like a.

Guy into for me who is washed.

Yeah, and so let's go to the backup. Well, okay, I can't be trusted to talk about Damian Piers. So I'm gonna let you take it away from here. Are you are? Damian Pierce returns as the backup. I you know I've ruined all my credibility and matters around Damian Peers.

I don't think you have.

But I think, what do you think?

I think one thing we did see at the end not last year, but the end of the year before and might have should have been a foreshadow to the to the following year. Although he was hurt a lot, he consistently runs into people instead of trying to run around people, which caused that injury. But also, you know, if they tackle him and he isn't breaking those tackles, his numbers go way down. And I think we saw a lot of that last year as well. We should have seen it at the end of the previous year too.

They got to coach that out of it.

Yeah, it feels CoA it does. It feels it feels coachable. Maybe he just he's used to you know in previous you know, high school, college. It's being able to just run through people and he was able to right away in his career. But yeah, that's my problem with Pierce is he needs he needs to fix that.

I'll note this, Pierce finished with Pro Football Focus is second best pass blocking grade among all on the field, So that'll help. Right now, if you don't like Pierce, if you're with me, that mix's washed. And you don't like Pierce, your only other option is Jawar Johnson, a twenty five year old Louisville long shot, likely too small to me in every down back, but maybe he gets into the rotation if he shines.

I I wouldn't be shocked if this this year is a similar split to last year's was with Singletary, but Pierce maybe takes more of the load later in the season.

Maybe, I mean, you know, maybe Mixon is just so cooked they have to go to Pierce more. But I you know, right now, I'm just as much as much as I'm trying to get every part of the Texans offense, I don't think I'm gonna.

It Also would shock me if if Mixon has an Alexander Madison from last year type of year where he just.

Told the spot and he's not good, that could very well be the pay in the case right now, Mixon going off the board at running back fifteen pick.

Fifty feels high. Feels I think that is classic. You want the running back on the offense that's going to be in a position to score a lot.

And so people are doing that thing. But I just I'm not a believer in him. Let's go to Jacksonville.

Yeah, yeah, let's go to Jacksonville. We'll start the coaching staff didn't have much much changes there, so we can move on from that. Normally, I want to start there just in case there's something. But let's start with the passing game. Trevor Lawrence. We mentioned earlier. Nick Holtz was the passing game coordinator there. Ninth in passing last year, Trevor Lawrence himself QB thirteen not actually the worst year.

Yeah, I did safe to say.

I think that's that's very safe to say. They did not bad, I mean not bad, you know. No, QB thirteen feels right, It actually feels right for him. They did lose Calvin Ridley, but they brought in Brian Thomas Junior, who I know you love. In the draft, they brought in Gabe Davis paid him, I believe, three for thirty ish, three for three for more than I thought was going to get. Yeah, yeah, and they still have Christian Kirk. So now they have you know, they replaced Ridley and

Christian Kirk is going to be a guillotine superstar, you think. So He's going to catch a ton of pass super consistent, super consistent.

I can see that.

You know, I don't know that he gets like double digit touchdowns. But Christian Kirk could be sitting on one hundred catches, yeah, you know, thirteen yards.

Or it could be the guy last year tight end, Evan Ingram, who had one hundred and forty three targets. Next closest was one hundred and twenty seven at tight end one hundred and fourteen catches. Next closest was ninety five a tight end. He had nine hundred and sixty three yards, which was third, but he.

Only had four scores. Swhear it took half a season for him to get the first one.

I feel like it did. Yeah, he ended his tight end six. If his touchdowns matched what the other stats should have been, he would have been tight end won by a long shot. But maybe, yeah, maybe it's just a lot of Kirk and Ingram, very consistent, tons of targets. You love me in your guillotine league type of situation. You're gonna ask the question or do you want me to just answer it? Did the passing game improved?

Did the passing game improve?

I think it improved? Okay, I think it improved.

With the swapping of receivers.

The swapping of those receivers in just another year for Trevor Lawrence under Doug Peterson, I feel like those factors probably just going to be a slight improvement.

Okay, let's go to the running game.

Yeah, in the running game, the coaches recently recently said they want to get the ball into tank tank bigsbys.

More well more would be like twice twice. Yes, another bruise on my ego right here.

I do think they. I do think they saw with Etn Gain hurt again last year for a little bit, and he still finished his running back three that they just want to keep they want to keep him healthier. I think I'm shocked they didn't do more of that last year. But maybe a second year with Tank in that offense, you know he'd learned some learned some things whatever. But Etn running back three last year, Like he's going to need to reproduce all of that to stay at

I just don't think he's special. Yeah, I'm just not convinced that Travis Etn is a special player.

Man. I thought so in college. Yeah, the fifty eight catches really helps. The twelve scores really helps. If he's going to be the super volume focal point of that offense. He had many twenty plus touch games last year. He's going to do it again. But if they do get Tanked more involved, I'd expect to slight drop up. But he's probably still going to finish as an RB one. He's probably still going to finish in that top one regards.

It's just too volume. Yeah, yep, let's go to Indianapolis, the last team of the AFC South. Let's go to the passing game. We only got to see Anthony Richardson for part of four games last year, So Week one he did, he look good in the stretches he did. Week one, you get the knee injury. Week two he had a concussion, and then in Week four the shoulder injury that ended a season.

So historic levels of fantasy points person nap.

How about that though, right that's I mean, that's the that's the exciting part. He had the four touchdowns, despite those, Despite those, all that that happened in the first four games, he had four rushing touchdowns. He looked pretty mate. He would a whopping seven yards per rushing attempt, and I thought the passing looked pretty good. And people were really worried about his deep ball, but Anthony Richardson's deep ball connected pretty well last year in the again very limited

I've seen a lot of lists with him there fifty.

Five overall, so he's kind of like the last of the sort of proven rushing quarterbacks. What do you think Is that about right.

That I like him a little more.

I have him in my.

Top five with c J. Stroud. So I have a question for you. In our home league, would you like one of those?

Yes?

I would thank you very much because I have both of them. I cannot keep both of them.

Well. You know, obviously Richardson's got way more upside, which is how you win. But I love c J. Stroud.

I won the league last year, so my next seven years are paid.

So I just worked that in. How nice of you, God, My team was terrible. I am interested in even in a one quarterback league. I would give up some asset for and in this home and I know you're not trading Anthony Richardson.

In this home league. They do keep quarterbacks too, No, but I I have Anthony Richardson, just on that pure upside a little higher we've for me. I feel like we've seen so many times these top quarterbacks. Some of them will drop, some of them won't, but you can find super steady, good guys late. I'd rather take Richardson and all that high upside and then back them up with someone that you know makes me feel safer.

Agreed. In traditional leagues like not guillotine leagues. You gotta play for upside. You need to be the best of twelve teams.

Yep.

And so you know he's this is the kind of pick that goes and wins your league.

Exactly. If you get.

A Lamar Jackson from four years after season, you know you find yourself.

Jalen Hurts fifteen touchdown, you exactly winning the Colts.

Drafted six foot two at AD and I Mitchell. I was saying it wrong earlier. Ad and I Mitchell in the second round. He is insanely fast four three four speed. And now you've got a guy who can get under these long passes thrown by Anthony Richardson the way that the rest of the receivers like Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, they were not going to get under those balls. Mitchell. Do you see Mitchell's rats, No, No, nine point nine to nine's that's very close to the ten, very close

Yep, that's probably.

Speaking of guys with a nine point nine to nine rasts. Yeah, Jilannie Woods come back this this, this is gonna be the year for Jilannie Woods. Yes, one of these times, I'm gonna get it right. This is gonna be like my Zach Moss. One of these years, I'm going to get it right. And it's gonna be when everybody's given up on John it was.

You know what's It's not even gonna be a season. It's gonna be that the giant fantasy playoff run that we talk about. Yeah, maybe that's gonna gonna be that. And then you'll get your You'll get your flowers, your Peacocky.

Woods returns from a hamstring injury that cost him all of these his sophomore season last year. I think he remains a great dart throw just on the absurd athleticism and and a lot of Titans do sort of figure it out in year three, although really missed the whole year last year with the hamstring. So does he get better or worse for the Colts passing game? Well it gets better. Richardson over Gardner Minshew is enough and then you add in ad and I Mitchell and it all

Yeah, I think it's fair. I think we've seen what that offense does with Taylor at the end. They just give him so much volume, and the curiosity is what's going to happen with him and Richardson both on the field more. Maybe maybe that lowers because Richardson takes so many, so many runs he can, but Richardson's.

Not built for like Tush push style.

Touchdown no no. And Jonathan Taylor is great at the goal line. He's got to know us for it. Yeah, he's he I think five is fine for Jonathan Taylor.

We love that he's a workhorse. Once he took over from Zack Moss, who had a shockingly good season, Taylor averaged twenty two carries per game. You just don't get that from many backs in the league anymore. Yeah, maybe not enough though, being made of Taylor's overall lukewarm season. Let me get you a symmetrics. You know, he missed the first month of the season and then he killed

Scott, He's just a guy.

So does the offensive line? Oh, I'll mention Colts put a third and fourth round pick and the offensive line which could help. Does does it get better or worse for the Indianapolis running game this year? I think worse because Moss was such a good was such a good backup, whether he was starting when Taylor was out or not. I think that the drop from Moss to Evan Hull makes this a lot worse. All right, let's take a break.

Well, that volume leads to another injury.

Which it might, which might? It's fine. Uh, Let's take a break and turn our attention to the NFC South when Fantasy Football Weekly continues. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Hey, we have a Discord channel. Did you know that? Check out the show notes. You can get a link right to our Discord channel. You can participate talk about this episode, anything that's happening in fantasy football. We've got side conversations on video games, board games, whiskey.

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It's the belly flop guys you gotta worry about.

You know. The belly flop competitions are pretty fascinating to see those big fat guys dive into the pool and just you can hear it, it's gotta hurt.

This might be the most off the rails episode we've had a long time.

It probably is. I did not think we'd be talking about belly flops.

I feel like if I bought the show more, that would be spread out of all your episodes, but instead it's all in one.

Do you do if you're in the belly flop competition? Okay, how do you train for it? Do you do you need to like? Do you do you just eat? Do you do you jump in the pool a lot? Is there a lot of technique like do you go navel first?

You know?

Or you going nipples first?

There is someone listening who knows about this. Yes, would probably have put it in.

The discord in the episode. Yes, put it in the episode discussion in our discord channel. What are the techniques? Do they lather up with something? Do they use oils or like a lubricating agent of some kind on the belly?

I don't know, I really don't know.

You do you shave because you don't want the hair? Do you shave the chest hair off because you don't want the hair to lessen the impact? I don't know, belly fly, I really like these are the burning questions. Yes that we've got the Fantasy.

Football Week and that's a show this week.

And on that note, let's be done AFC, sorry, NFC South. Let's begin with Division champion Tampa Bay.

Okay, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They actually had one major coaching change. They lost Dave Canalis to uh the Carolina Panthers. He was obviously the QB coach for Seattle when Gino Smith one comeback Player of the Year and nearly did it again with Baker last year, as.

I'll be talking about him momentarily, Carolina.

Yeah, absolutely, I should have saved it for the end, but that that makes absolutely no sense because they've started with the passing game, and uh so, I would you know, Baker has been what he is for years and then he had a really good season last year. I worry that he'll down Tech without Dave Canalis, but maybe not. He's got He's got Mike Evans back the contract extent.

Then you got then you got Palmer playing out of position.

Yeah, Palmer played fifty three percent slot last year, so he's yeah, a little bit more of a slock guy. He's playing out of position. You could start some of the other guys, but here are the other guys, Jalen McMillan, Devin Tompkins, rakeem Jarrett, Ryan Miller, Rally.

Webb, Raley Webb.

I'm pretty sure that's like a baseball player from the twenties. Actually, I don't know how that got in there. Cephas, Johnson, Tanner, Canoe or new Cameron Johnson, La Treo, Drones and scraps Charty.

Yeah, scrap char Plucky plucky.

I love it. I love it. Yes, those are the other wide receivers behind Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Trey Palmer. So, say it falls off just a bit, I'd expect a lot of two and three person three wide receiver, you know, situations there. Trey Palmer weirdly enough, if he's moving outside. Last year outside he had nine catches for twenty plus

I thought it was weird that they that they did take Godwin out of that role that he had been so productive in. Yeah, and it didn't it just didn't feel like it was a natural fit. Last year.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Kate Oughten was tight end twenty. I don't see him getting more targets in an offense I think is going to be slightly less and doesn't have depth. May maybe do maybe if there's an injury, he does. You know, that's that's where it come in because they don't have any depth either behind atten or wide receivers. But I think the passing game takes it a slight tick down the.

Loss of Canalis and then just Mike Evans being one year older, right, I mean the end is coming for Mike. Yeah, maybe it's here now and we don't know it. Hopefully it's a year or two away, but it's coming.

Hall of Fame career, thousand yards every year. Into the running game, we have Rashad White, who I previously mentioned was one of the two top ten running backs with a yards per carry under four in this season. He was not very efficient, but he did have sixty four catches scored just enough to make him RB four, kind of like traves et. If that offense takes a little bit of a downturn and he doesn't score as much and he doesn't, well, the catches should probably still be there.

I think the catches will be there. It's the touchdowns or worry on what and.

There's nobody behind him. They drafted a fourth round, uh, the Bucky Irving fourth round, and then Chase. I was gonna say Daniels, but it's Edmunds, Chase Edmonds behind him.

What happened to the kid with that we love from Syracuse last preseason? Uh?

Train Sean Tucker?

Sean Tucker.

Yeah, yeah, he's still there. He's still there too. All right, He's like fourth on the depth Shart, but he's still there.

This whole show is just me about stuff I was optimistic about happening that didn't happen last year.

Yeah, that's uh. I think the running game also takes a slight downturn, honestly as far as that goes, because yeah, if the offense is going down, I think it's uh, I think it's uh, you know, rising tide backwards.

Yeah. Ye, all right, let's go to Carolina.

Uh.

You mentioned Dave Canalis comes over. You already mentioned that he revived the careers of Gino Smith and Baker Mayfield. That's the big addition here. But they also added some players of note to the passing game. Deontay Johnson now in Carolina, and they drafted second round pick I believe was it end of the first They jump into the bottom of the first I think for Xavier, like at the marble mouthed, I think, yeah, I think they jumped into the bottom of the first. Xavior. It's fun to

To for it as far as.

I'm concerned, Uh, Johnson and Theland sure handed guys, though, that maybe will be something that helps that helps Young a little bit.

Here.

Leaguett brings vertical speed to the table, something Thelan does and Johnson do not have. So incredibly thick for incredibly thick for a guy who runs a four to three nine like Guet is really well built, probably opens the year as a starter or at least a situational player in this offense. I shot Mingo big time, big time. I think Taris Marshall, I think this is it for him and oh yeah, cut candidate. Mingo probably makes the roster only because he was a second round draft pick one year ago.

Do you know when I realized that Terrence Marshall, Terrace Terriss Marshall wasn't going to be a thing in the NFL. I was watching tape on him because I'm like, how is he not producing? And there was a play they decided he got open and they passed it away from him. And before while the pass is in the air, he's complaining, complaining, he's not going to help block. He's not. It's like, come on, yeah.

That's stuff. Your coaches hate that, and they see the tape. I could regale you with futility stats for Bryce Young. Okay, and it is bad, but remember how we threw out Trevor Lawrence's rookie year. We said bad coaching staff, bad situation, players around him, and we threw it out and we just went reboot for next year. I think that's the approach to take on Bryce Young. Sure, just let's just

So.

And I'll mention this Carolina is offensive line non awful. Last year in run blocking they ranked sixteenth by Pro Football Focus. So does it get better worse this year? Let's assume Brooks is better than Hubbard and Sanders, which wouldn't take a lot, and eventually this running game gets better.

Okay, I mean for fantasy, it really could have if Brooks, you know, in the second half of the season, at post Thanksgiving whatever is taking the load where there's not the split that gave them secrets. Sea grades are worse all year.

Correct, all right, let's go to the Saints.

The Saints. Yeah, this might be the most boring one, this one.

They did have a boring offseason.

So boring.

Uh.

The only coaching changes They hired Clint Kubiak, who we're familiar with UH Minnesota OC from Minnesota a couple of years ago. Then he was the Broncos pass game coordinator than the forty nine Ers pass game coordinator. He's jumping around job a job. But that's about the only change in coaching here. They they they're quarterbacks. They they still

I'm just what I'm I'm trying to ask myself. Is this is there a scenario around Thanksgiving where the Saints are like, a, let's see what three win operation or win operations possible.

I feel like they want to see what they happens.

I feel like it is.

Yeah, yep, And that's about all the changes. Then we get to the running game, where there's Kamara, Jamal Williams, and Kendra Miller. Still the passing. The wide receivers A Lave, Shaheed at Perry auditions, auditioned by subtraction by Thomas.

He's out of the league right now.

Yeah, Yeah, let's stay in the passing game here. But Chris Alave sixteen wide receiver sixteen last year, just he really feels like he's on the way up. He looked like a star. He looked like on that Nico Collins path. He looked like on looks like what Drake London might be too in Atlanta. Yeah, he's wherever he's going. I'm sure it's worthy in drafts for sixteen. Honestly feels like a floor for him this year. Personally, I think that

Okay, all right, that's that is possible. I just feel like Derek Carr kind of puts a ceiling on what Chris o'lave can do.

Yeah, but there have been some really high passing yardag years out of car in Oakland, so I wouldn't doubt that. And the running game is just getting a year older and a year older and a year older.

Kamara fell off the table, the metrically fell off the table, like all.

His freak tackles, all that everything gone. That's that's what I'm saying. I don't see the run game being able to support them, even unless Kendre Miller takes a huge step. And you know Jamal Williams, well, he really never was that guy. He had a good season and half a season or so of being that guy, but hasn't really had it. But in the past game we got Rashid Shahid, Who's probably gonna benefit from Mike Thomas's thirty nine catches and forty eight You know I feel about Rashii Rashid yaheedr.

All right, we love that volume.

At least I wrote that, Oh no, that's Kamara. Kamara was second receptions and targets. And what I was like, it's quite above him. That can't be right right as I say it. But Rashi Yahed he averaged fifteen to twenty less targets than the the players around his rank. He ranked wide receiver forty four last year, but he had way more Fantasy points because of how Oh no, yeah, he had way more Fantasy points because of how efficient he was, because of all those big balls, the you know,

No, I don't think it's very interesting.

I still like he's so productive on twelve twelve catches.

I'm gonna have a I'm gonna have a it's a painful decision my second round. I have a second round pick in a dynasty league. That looks like I'm gonna have to drop Shaheed to make that pick. Oh, that's league, right, Empire.

Yeah, that's gonna be tough, tough, tough, Taysom Hill, I mean, Juwan Johnson and Foster Morrow are above him on the on the tight end depth chart, but it seems like it's always Taysom Hill, who is tight end twelve because of four hundred and one rushing yards and seven combined rushing TD but.

The ultimate wildcard to tight end, right, Yeah, you know, yeah, one week you get zero fantasy points. The next week he runs into.

Almost quite literally, he had six double digit fantasy point weeks and then a whole bunch of like two and three point or last weeks. Uh into the running game. We've kind of already discussed it though, but Kamara was running back eleven, but we've mentioned how he downturned in everything. Thirty three percent of his stats came in those two games where he caught twenty eight.

Now right, forgot about that.

So when you catch twenty eight pass twenty five passes on twenty eight targets in two games, yes, you're gonna you're gonna most of your stats are gonna come basically in two games.

Marriage cooked.

As far as the passing game, I think it's gonna be pretty similar. It's just we're gonna get more numbers out of players without Mike Thomas there, and the running game I think takes a downturn.

Just go to the Falcons. What do you think is the bigger off season story the dumping of Arthur Smith or the signing of Kirk Cousins.

I think it's the signing of Arthur Smith to another.

Team, sabotaging the Steelers.

Seed story to be. I think it's oh man, they are both man that is, I don't even that's a.

Tough one, isn't it too tough? You new head coach in Atlanta's Raheem Morris, You new offensive coordinator Zach Robinson. Let's talk about Zach Robinson for a second. He's a super thin resume, so it's hard to know what kind of offense he's going to bring to the Falcons. For the last two years he was the Rams passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach, so he has not called plays before,

You made me figure it out. I will keep Anthony Richardson and I will draft Kirk Cousins.

There you go his previous year's finishes. Kirks, he was quarterback four at the time of his achilles. Year before that, he was quarterback six year before that, quarterback nine year before that, quarterback eleven. Now he's going off the board his quarterback seventeen, Scott yep.

And he still has good weapons. He still has great weapons, and they're gonna finally unlock Kyle Pitts. Some of those some of those videos, I know you always see the best shape of your life and the amazing catch videos. Kirk to Pitts looked really good and.

It does look good, right, yeah, I mean there's a lot of opportunity here, so Drake, London, Kyle Pitts and John of Smith and now in Miami. So that's gonna help keep Pitts on the field. So we like that London going off the board wide receiver fourteen. So it's funny, you know, London's been nowhere near wide receiver fourteen prior to now, but now he's getting drafted as though Kirk's going to be really good, but nobody's drafting Kirk.

Yeah, you got to love when that happens.

That people are assuming a massive uptick in Drake London's production. His two years so far in the league, he's had almost exactly nine hundred yards and then he's had a four touchdown season and two touchdown season. For Drake London to get him to make good on wide receiver fourteen, I mean, you know, he's got to get like you know, we need him to get like a fifty percent bump on these numbers. We need him at thirteen hundred receiving yards and you know, eight touchdowns.

And honestly, that wouldn't that that honestly wouldn't even shock me nor what't. But you need that to hit that adp yes is the thing that's.

So we do need that and kurtly deliver. The team brought in Darnell Mooney, Rondel Moore, and ray Ray McLoud, which is a little bit baffling because they all play the slot and they brought them all in, so I thought that was weird. Mooney as the expected starter out of that group and Moore's gonna probably be the gadget guy for the Falcons. I want to mention this digging

Oh last year.

So does B John Robinson automatically get the big uptick with Kirk who did not throw to his running backs in Minnesota either.

And he's like, oh, he's like the anti Joe Lombardi. Who I saw this stat this week. Joe Lombardi now with Denver, you'll talk about him next week. With that, I'm sure his targets to running backs top five ten years in a row.

Wow.

Wow. Yeah, So he's like the anti.

I'm struggling with what to do with Julium mouglachlan. But that's a conversation.

Maybe for now next week.

So everybody thinks B John Robinson is going to be way way better. Hopefully he will, but you know you're going to get less total rushes out of this offense, and if Zach Robinson follows the Rams blueprint, you might not get as many receptions for b Jehon Robinson as you think. So let's let's talk this through on the running game, by the way, just a passing game get better obviously, Yes, way way better, way better running game. The only notable change in personnel Cordell Corderyl Patterson is

Smith makes sense ever since that video of him saying he was on his fantasy team.

Yeah, there you go. Bijon Robinson and Tyler Algier returned last year. Robinson was almost a full yard better per carry than Algier and despite the bigger size, Robinson had more yards after contact. Romason is just better yep. But the problem was they were only separated by two carries per game. I mean, Alger was getting almost the same workload,

Yeah, that's I just there's a lot of name attached to that. There's a lot of everybody expected a ton from him coming in. He was like the clear cut number one Dynasty pick and the loss of Arthur Smith. Everybody felt like he was misused by a Thurs Smith that they feel like this is his true rookie year. So I get it.

The only way to make good on an ADP at pick eight for Bijon is that he has to score a lot more touchdowns. Yeah, a lot more. He had four rushing touchdowns last year, four receiving touchdowns. So I went and decided to look up what did he do inside the five? Like, you know, can can he have a big uptick on usage inside the five? He's not built like a traditional goal line back. He was given only three carries inside the five last year.

Three yep, Arthur Smith. I actually commented on that a couple times last year that he prefers Algerion. They thought he was better inside the five.

Now, on the three carries, he did score twice. So there's that. But get this, and this is really fascinating. Arthur Smith threw to Bjon Robinson five times from inside the three yard line. Okay, he had zero touchdowns and zero receptions. None were even complete.

I'd like to watch where those balls ended up.

Yes, I assume that it's on Desmond Ridder. I'm gonna blame for that. But yeah, they threw to him five times from inside I think I said three before, but it was from inside the five yard line.

None caught interesting.

Yeah, so does a running game get better? I don't know that it does. I think that there's gonna be fewer carries to go around. Algier is still there, and you know, I just I don't know. I'm just I'm not convinced that. I'm not convinced that Bejon Robinson's gonna be materially different from the guy he was last year.

I production wise, like man, I find it hard to believe he's I find it hard to believe the new coaching staff is gonna give Algier as much work. I just I just find that hard to believe. I can't I can't imagine it. So I feel like the running game may be about the same, but the offense is gonna be better, so there's more scoring opportunities and it might be more condensed. To Beijon's side, I think I'd lean better on that personally. But I get it. You've you've pointed out the angles.

Okay, well there you go. A FC South NFC South in the books. Yes, uh, these get to be long podcasts.

Yeah, this one is. I talk way too much. I interrupt too much stuff that doesn't.

Matter, like greasing your stomach for belly flops. Yes, yeah, that that's that's not me.

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