It's that's fun. Find bro say frantas practice start of ball ladies and tell me in yours with that. We wanted you inside of Studio thirty four. This is the BFFs. Here's Frank Stamfel, I am gregg sauceman. Come back man, what's up man? Happy post Christmas? I hope you had a healthy surfing of Chinese food last night, Greig, I had. I went to a Christmas party last night. We went to a Christmas I do. I go do Christmas every year? Sweet? That's good. Yeah, you get the best of all the holiday.
It was great. So I did China did Chinese on uh Christmas Eve and saw moving. So I did my Jewish Christmas. And then last night I went to our Judy is like basically her aunt and uncle or Christmas. We had a Monster's turkeys, some awesome corn and Spidge and he's delicious. It sounds great. Yeah, it was great. It sounds grea. We spoke about this earlier downstairs and we could kind of just explain it to everybody in case you don't know where does the origin of Jewish
people eating Chinese food on Christmas? Come from? Sure? Great question? Um, really not a complicated answer when you told me either. No. So basically, uh, the Chinese restaurants and ones that are open because back in the day the most Chinese people were not Christian, so they didn't sell her Christmas, so they stayed open. End a story. There you go. So
the Chinese at a Chinese restaurant. So on Monday on Tuesday when we were here on Christmas Eve, we ordered in Chinese for the staff for lunch, so we got the standard Chinese. We got General. The day that I'm out, Greig orders launched for everybody did got General. We got General Choush Chicken, we got like Lomaine, we got a beef dish, a pork dish, and doublings classics. Right, So on Tuesday night, no, we did General Chousa. Yeah, that's
that's one. We basically one of the other. Um. So then Tuesday night we went to a different like as Chinese place where I got dot non noodles and I these dry rubs spicy wings. It was delicious. Whoa, that's like some advanced dry rubs spicy wings. So my go too is usually we got to fried rice. Obviously I go do some sort of fried rice. Love fried rice and usually either a chicken or beef dish and some like garlic or spicy sauce. It's basically Chinese chicken with garlic.
That's fantastic. You know the Chinese restaurant in my neighborhood, they have awesome curry chicken. Here's a tie restaurant here and makes awesome curry chicken. Yeah, but this is a straight up like it's not even tie. It's just normal tiny spot make curry chicken. It's great. So you would like to know the place where we went to on Christmas Eve? They were packed, like packed because June and I walked through. That makes sense. I called them, how long is the wait for two people? I don't know?
Like ten minutes? Very cool? So we walked there. We took our time for guys, got a half hour to get there? We walking like how longs we have a two people? An hour? And I just called you. You told me it was ten minutes. You're like, well you called me a half hour ago, Like yeah, but hour an hour? Wait? But instead of the bar first, first the bar, I don't care. So we we we sat at the bar. We're talking at the bartender. You know me I gotta talk to the bartend to make friends
social butterfly Greg. So Christmas Eve and Christmas are there two busiest days of the year. Yeah, why not? One of the only establishments open on the money? Why not? Then we saw Uncut Gems, which I really enjoyed this right night. So Uncut Gems is the movie with Adam Sandler serious role. So what's like without giving anything away,
so what's like the general synopsis of the movie. He gets in trouble because of like gambling den So he is a He is a jeweler in Midtown, the diamond district, and he obviously sells all these diamonds, but he is a gambling addict and doesn't just be like letters on games. He's been like thousands and basically continues to swindle, basically rob Peter to pay Paul where he would like, oh this guy money, then would make a deal in his store and take the deal that he had instead of
paying this guy. You didn't go that on it? And Adam sayone also like direct this I think behind he was a producer of it, I think, but the director was the Saftie brothers who were also Jews. It was a very Jewish movie. No. I mean, look, it's a it's a great way to capitalize on, you know, the
industry right now. But it's also a good reminder, right for people who are jumping into the sports gambling and sports wagering world, you know, not to get too caught up in you know, everything that's going on, right so you gotta wage it responsively, and this is a good way to remind people of that. So it was that was a smart way for Adam Sandler and co. To uh take advantage of that. It's really enjoyable movie. Judy gave it like a C plus. I was like, you
know what, we'll take it that. I feel like a sailer hasn't made a great movie in a while. This is really good. I really She thought Sandler was great. Kevin Garnett had a major role in it. I watched Eight Crazy Nights on Monday, so that was my Adam Sandler experience. Great classic. There are a few that I have to watch everything a year to try and get myself in the spirit Eight Crazy Nights. Although I'm not Jewish, I do have celebrat Hanaka. It's still an awesome movie
to watch around this time of You're hilarious movie. So that Die Hard obviously one of the best Christmas movies of all time. I wish Ey was here so that I can argue with him about it. Um yeah, classics Jingle all the Way to Jingle all the Way. We talked about it, and some one else was my friends has never seen Jingle all the Way in now Year of Living. My group text was going crazy because I was like, you know what underrated Christmas movie? Jingle all
the Way? Like, it's not underrated, it's awesome, and I feel like everyone should know that it is great. It's amazing, It's one of the best Christmas movies. Great Christmas soundtrack. Sinbad is great in the movie as well. Awesome Arnold Arnold. I mean, it's it's kind of hard to take him seriously. It's like feeding the deer like beer later on in the movie. Did you watch um mother on the phone? Now? That's so good? Do you actually basketball? Asterner? I watched
a ton of basketball. I I lost one bet. Speaking of betting responsibly, I I lost on the Bucks, didn't show up to what was that too much? And then uh, and then I bet on the Clippers, and you know, I was on the Clippers. I know you said on the clippery we were all on the Clippers, So I was on the I made it back with the Clippers. Thisterday ended up going one in one, but a lot of big upsets, and I thought overall the play was pretty good. You know, the first game the Raptors weren't there.
They have a lot of injuries, obviously, And I think we're gonna start to work some more basketball talk into the show here. Uh, now that we get further away from football, obviously, we're still gonna talk about like the playoff games and and uh, you know, maybe like playoff Fantasy Survivor and you know, situations like that. So we'll get into playoff fantasy football obviously today, and we gotta talk a lot about what happened this season, a little bit of a look ahead to next year. We will
work in some basketball talk. We'll take it into January some baseball as well. Tomorrow we'll look toward weeks seventeen. Assume right, sure, if you like, we can hit on some stuff like DFS plays. You got play your season long league in two weeks seventeen. Please, I'm begging you, do not do that. Frank's back, Daddy's back. I'm still here. We'll be back after this NFL season is now upon us, so you can become the eighth person away in one
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are made. Back here on the BFFs, Frank Stample, Greg Sussman hanging out with you and Frankie. I know on Tuesday show, I got through like the first half of the first round, kind of looking back on what we gave, what we did raw, and I was hoping we'll be able to kind of continue that today. Yeah, that's fine. I'm I'm all for you know, taking a look back at drafts early a DP, what went wrong, what we got wrong, which players busted the most, and try and
learn from those mistakes. I think that you know, a lot of people, as soon as football ends, they kind of want to jump into the next four Well, let's start talking pastball, let's start talking baseball, and we're gonna get to those things for sure. We have a lot of time to talk basketball, to talk baseball in the month of January. February. Uh, pitchers and catchers don't report
intil February as well. But I want to take this time to really reflect on what we got wrong in football, try and learn from it, try and figure out how we can become better next year. Um. And I think ultimately that will help make us better players. That will help make other people better fantasy players as well. So
I think that makes a lot of sense. So I got to like the Deanandre Hopkins Davante Adams here um on Tuesday, and that brought us to like five six essentially, which interesting by the way that James Connor wut of a five spot when it was all setting, which is like, oh my god. So I have nff C a DP pulled up for the month of August. I'm usually just I'm just a fantasy data Okay. I don't you know, use PPR should do it over here, so you can use whatever you like, Frank. So what I'm looking at
here had James Conner right around pick eleven. So here it has Danta Adam Yandra Hopkins five six and Connor at seven. Yeah, but I mean that's where he was going, like mid to late first round. It doesn't matter where he went. It was busted and he was terrible. Yes. Um, So, whether you want to start with Connor, whether you want to start with the wide receivers, I'm going to pass that, alright,
that's fine. I want to start with running back. Then our GST league fell and fell and fell and fell, and you weren't there, and as this guy was falling, I'm like, oh my god, what do I do? The name was David Johnson. He went one pick before us in that G S T league. We think James Conner neither was right, but at number ten in our league, number seven or eight or so in a DP, it's David Johnson. Why did David Johnson bust? Well, there are a lot of things that happened here. Obviously early on
in the season, did not run efficiently. He was still catching touchdowns and he was used a lot in the past game, but injuries took over the fact that this team traded for Kenyan Drake. I don't know that David Johnson is the running back for Cliff Kingsbury, so you know, they give David Johnson that big extension. Whether or not Cliff Kingsbury was on board with that, um, I'm not
entirely sure. But for whatever reason, they trade for Kenyan Drake and Kenyan Drake ends up taking over, and even when David Johnson was healthy enough to play, was used sparingly. He was a backup. David Johnson was used as a handcuff to Kenyan Drake. So between all the injuries that David Johnson suffered from, and even when he was on the field, he didn't look great the elusiveness that we've seen before, the strength, um it, he was not the
same player David Johnson. Clearly, you know, either was playing hurt or all these injuries have kind of added up to ultimately him just not being the player that he once was. Greg and that in that big year with Bruce arians um and he never really ran efficiently. He was always great in the past game, caught a bunch of passes, caught a bunch of touchdowns. But the fact that Kenyan Drake came in the injuries to David Johnson,
He's gonna end up somewhere else. I don't think that he's gonna be back with this team, whether he's cut or traded, goes to Tampa Bay, goes to Kansas City. If he winds up in the right system, you're gonna get him at a discount next year, which could be profitable for fantasy football. But there were a lot of factors in play here for why David Johnson did not work out. David Johnson thinks, to me, he's really really interesting, and I look at it as being really nervous to
be honest with you about him going forward. I get why you like him in Casey or Tampa Bay or something like that. Like I understand why the reasons like and why the reasons for the bounce back. But see what Kenyan Drake has done it in this offense with David Johnson was seemingly unable to do in the office. I think he's a red flag right like five, he was never really healthy, but that was just like three years on a row. He hasn't really been healthy, And
I made the joke a lot with Josh Gordon. That when people come jumping in on Josh Gordon, jumping into Josh Gordon, and it it hasn't been good in like six years, and finally, like this year, people saw, all right, Josh Gordon isn't good anymore. I don't know if I want to go that forward David Johnson, but it's clear when this team acquired Kennyan Drake, like, all right, fine, David Johnson,
Chase Edmonds are hurt. I get it. But when they got healthy, okay, I understood going with the hot hand, But David Johnson is your guy, He's who are you paid? And he's still don't go back to him. I'm wondering what David Johnson is in the future. I don't know what does he have left in the tank? Basically right, So that was what I was gonna say. But like, he's still so young, and I it's it's well, he's not as young as you would think. Man. Old. He
came in the league later than most people realize. I believe he played four years in college, so you know, he came into the league later than most people expected. And he's now twenty eight years old, so he doesn't have as much where as other people, he only has one season, that one great season where he had two hundred ninety three rushing attempts, had eighty receptions, he had
twenty total touchdowns. Uh in eighteen. Last year he did have two hundred and fifty eight rushing attempts, but at its three point six yards per carry, it was a terrible season for him. Right in that Mike McCoy led offense for the Arizona Cardinals. So I think it's a good point that you bring up. Right, Kenyan Drake plays within the same system, comes in, He's running well, shows
off his explosiveness. The offensive line didn't look nearly as bad with Kenyan Drake running behind it as David Johnson did. They used him in the past game. Kenyan Drake was a full on workhorse and he performed in that role. We already saw when David Johnson was playing that Chase Edmonds was starting to eat into his workload as well. So I think you're onto something there. Um, it's a fair question how much does David Johnson have left in
the tank. I think that if he goes into a system where he is the lead running back for a team where he sees fifteen plus touches, like the fact that he hasn't been efficient, he'll be able to overcome that if he's a work course. Obviously a lot of running backs do, Leonard Fournett for example. But yeah, I think it's fair to question where David Johnson's talent is at this point in his career. At we'll see. That's why I just want to make sure what can we
learn from it? Though? Right? Like just tweeted and he spelled my name wrong. Well, I retweeted it. I did it over again. Right, you didn't delete this tweet though I believe I did seeing it all my timeline, Frank, Well, maybe you need to refresh your timeline, Greg, because I'm looking at my Twitter right now and I redid it and I spelled it correctly. Money. Try Is there anything that we can learn from David Johnson? Like, was there anything coming in that we could have said? So? Why
did he drop a G S day? I don't know because in high stakes draft he was still going in the middle of that first round that he was going pick four or five six. Everyone you know, wanted to everyone who wanted to drap they running back early. I wanted David Johnson in a full PPR format because you knew he was gonna catch passes at the least a tempo offense. With Cliff Kingsbury, you knew that they were going to run a ton of plays, which they did.
It's so I was not hesitant. I've never had an opportunity at him, but I was hesitant at him because of Cliff Kingsbury's usage um of running back in college when we saw him as a head coach that like, you knew they would play fast. But how much would he use David Johnson? It would be a lot of shotgun. How successful is he in the shotgun? They could use him as a receiver as much as were of the the past.
Like those are the questions I had about him. And again the system wasn't the problem, as we have now seen with Kennyan Drake. Like all the reasons we didn't like people didn't like David Johnson had nothing to do with David Johnson. It was the system and the system was fine. That's what scares me again him at the players. So to ask your question of what can we learn, uh huh. I think the fact that he has been
hurt as much as he has in recent years. He did play sixteen games last year, he was hurt this year. He only played one game the year before that. I mean, the guy has been banged up. I think you can take that away from this and the fact that you know, he hasn't really been running efficiently the past couple of seasons, so maybe we should have looked into that more. We knew that this was not gonna be a great offensive line coming in, but we thought that the volume here again,
I'll bring up the name Leonard Fournette. Fournette is not an efficient runner, but he got so much work both on the ground and as a receiver that he was still able to pay off from a fantasy perspective. And I think that's how I looked at it coming in for David Johnson. I remember saying those exact words that the volume for David Johnson was going to outweigh his UH inefficiency. So I thought that David Johnson can kind of put up a similar season what Leonard Fournette did.
But it just seemed like the injuries piled on Cliff Kingsbury UH really does not like the player David Johnson UM and someone like Kenyan Drake was better for his system. As you mentioned, Greg, So, I think what we can learn from it is someone who is banged up the past couple of years, someone who has not been an efficient player, kind a bad offensive line. You know, take all those things into account when you're drafting running back
in the first round. Obviously, yeah, absolutely, and the leondfer stuff. We're gonna be at that today, probably because of where he went. But like that went wrong? You didn't you like the Leonard from No Where that I did? No, I mean I started moving him up, but I didn't draft Leonard fort anywhere. It's not like, you know, I wasn't pounding the table telling people to take Leonard Fournette. I was worth everything we just said about David Johnson.
You can say the same thing about Leonard Fournette. But he managed to stay healthy. It worked absolutely, So I mean, look, this is this is a good, you know kind of comparing contrast. They were both similar situations. One worked and one didn't. The first round breakdown continues right after This NFL season is now alta. So you can be on the eighth person away in one million dollars in a Fandueler Draft Kings tournament. My setting or lineup using the
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dot Com slash dunks to learn more. That's Daily Roader dot Com slash dunk tailor Order dot Com from millionaires are made. Okay, Frankie let's tie the David Johnson conversation with the bow let me move want to be on the running back of the un in this tier is David Johnson, James Conner and I was always James Conner guy, and Lebian Bell lady On Bell was the third running back in that conversation. And my response to you always with Jets office life sucks. It's a bad and I'm like,
it's really bad. Did I ever say that we're gonna have to go to the tape. We can find the tape, that's easy. So lady On Bell in his first and the only season with the Jets probably disappointment. Ultimately, he played every game or every year but one when he was bowling instead, and he finished this season's rbif pr RB fifteen, so he just outside the RB one's here RB nineteen in points per game. What went wrong with
lady On Bello this year? A lot of it is the same as David Johnson, outside of the health of the fact that the system was not conducive to running backs being great for fantasy Shout out to Adam Gaze, thank you for that. Uh, you don't know how to use one of the best receiving running backs in the NFL really not that hard. But the offensive line didn't help things, Greg, I mean three point three yards per carry. Not that Levian Bell was. He's not really one of
the better efficient running backs, right. I mean, his value even when he was with Pittsburgh was catching the football out of the backfield. The fact that you know, when this guy would play full seasons, we're talking about someone who catched over seventy over eighty passes in a season. This year he does have sixty one receptions. A lot of that was front loaded early on, in the first month of the season, he was being used as a receiver, uh, and then they got away from that. So I don't
know if that's just on Adam Gaze. I know, midway point in the season, when the offense started playing better, Sam Donald started contributing to the play calling more. He told Adam Gaze what he wanted to do, and then we saw, you know, a spike in Robby Anderson's production. Crowder started bouncing back even the tight ends are being used. So maybe a little bit of that was on Sam Donald. But ultimately the system Adam Gaze was not great this year.
For Levian Bell's usage, the offensive line was god awful. The offense in general was not really a great one there once again running the fewest plays in the NFL in terms of volume here with Adam Gaze and the Jets. So I think more than anything, it's the system, the offensive line, and the offense all being bad. It wasn't health, it wasn't. I don't think it's Levan Bell has lost the step. You know, he sat out of season. I think it really just has a lot to do with
playing for the New York Jets. I do believe that. I think if he was on Pittsburgh again this year, he's probably a top ten, top eight running back for fantasy, maybe even better than that. He's just playing all of it on Adam Gaze, I think so. Yeah, And I don't think that that's a cop out. I think it's actually fair criticism, so that a lot of it falls on Gaze. For sure. We saw him his in ability
to use Kenny Drake obviously with Dolphins. Um what about the fact that Bell just didn't play football last year. Did he lose a step in that time? I don't think so, because for a lot of this here, like he was still giving it as all against the Baltimore Ravens. You know, a couple of weeks ago on Thursday I Football. He ran well in that game, actually ran efficiently that that was the season high in terms of rushing yardage over eight yards against a good defense. So he was
still playing hard. He's still breaking a lot of tackles, but a lot of the times, remember his style is he's he's a patient runner. He was behind one of the better offensive lines when he was in Pittsburgh. So no, his play style with the Jets offensive line, which is not a good one, just didn't really work out for him. I still think that Levian Bell has a lot left in the tank. I think that he's still a good receiver. Uh. He proved that he had a few contested catches earlier
on in the season. I think he can still play. I think a lot of it is based on the system, offensive line, and the Jets. He's back with the Jets next year. He finished, as you said, the fifteenth overall running back of PDR leagues. Most likely scenarios he's back with the Jets, although of course there's a lot of reporters that are saying he will not vague. I don't think he will you know, I still think it remains the most likely scenario. Do you think because of the contract, Yes,
it's harder to trade. Yeah, yeah, it's not that it's not easy to trade. But like a team like the Chiefs for example, like they still have Patrick Mahomes on that rookie contract, correct, so they could take on that Levy on Bell money, I think Frank Clark. So, I don't know the Chief's calf situation, but everything's manipulated. It would be manipulated. So with all that being said, what
do you take them next year? So we've been talking a lot about the Aaron Jones group of running back Todd Gurley, and I think with Aaron Jones performance this past week that pushed him up draft boards heading into next year as well, it's probably closer to a borderline first early second round pick for Aaron Jones. I think Bell goes in that Gurly range, late second early third round pick, maybe a little bit later than that, maybe even just a solid third round pick, early to mid
third round pick. But I think now once you get past those top twelve running backs, I think he's likely drafted as a high nd RB two, assuming that he is back with the Jets. If he ends up somewhere else in a better situation, obviously like the Chiefs one of the best offenses in the league. I think that likely makes him a mid to late first round pick once again heading into next year. But with the Jets,
probably an early to mid third round pick. A huge difference, dude, and in the first round, the middle of the third your situation there that matters enough for Levion Bell. We just saw it. I mean, if that's Adam is gonna be back, that's not gonna change. They're gonna, I hope, address the offensive line if they If they don't, then Joe Douglas should be the next GM gone, you know, within the first couple of seasons here with the Jets, because it's very clear that they need to upgrade the
offensive line. I think they'll do that, you know, whether it's through free agency, through the draft, um. But ultimately the system hasn't been great for him. So if he's back with the Jets, I think he's probably an early third round pick. Let me move on, Frank and get to the next guy. You're noticing a theme here, Greig. The top twelve running backs rearly drafted here basically half of them busted. Levian Bell, James Conner, David Johnson. I
would even consider Alvin Kamara bust season. Say Kwan Barkley a bust, and then you look at the rest of the names that are in this mix. Joe Mason was not great for a large majority the season. Damian Williams came in at RB twelve. No, I'm just saying, I'm looking at the top twelve running backs drafted and basically half of them were bust. So looking early round, running back can win you a league. Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott was fine, Nick Chubb was great, Dalvin Cook was great.
These guys can win you leagues. They touched the ball more than any other player in the NFL. It's still a risky position, man, no matter how which way you want to slice it, it is a risky position. Greg The next guys in the first round that went off the board weren't running backs. They were wide receivers. Michael Thomas and Julio Jones. They had good years, rank and they had great years. Where do you take them next year? Michael Thomas is going to be a top three or
four pick. He will be will he be taking before Jackson. I'm sure people are going to There's gonna be people on both sides. I know that you're probably one that is going to lean with Lamar Jackson there, and everyone's gonna make the argument, well, Lamar Jackson was drafted outside the top twelve quarterbacks. A lot of the quarterbacks that actually performed this year and finished inside the top twelve were drafted outside of the top twelve in terms of ADP.
The Josh Allen's, the Jameis Winston's, the Lamar Jackson's obviously of the world. So they're gonna make the argument, well, you can try and find that quarterback again next year, draft a quarterback late like they always do, and they're gonna say, I want this safe, steady production at one of the skill positions, which will be Michael Thomas, and I probably lean in that category as well. So I think Michael Thomas a top three or four pick, and
it is warranted. He deserves to be so drew in his quarterback Uh, you know, you have to go back and look at the production in games that he played with with um Teddy Bridgewater. I do think, you know, Teddy Bridgewater would be the starting quarterback for the Saints if Drew Brees is gone. But remember every week we talked about the consistency out of Michael Thomas, consistently putting up receptions in yards. He didn't really have a down game this year. A lot of those games came with
Teddy Bridgewater as well. So if Teddy is there, maybe your downgrade Michael Thomas a little bit. But even if Bridgewaterson's quarterback, I can't see him slipping past pick five or six. It's Julio your second wide receiver off the board heading into next year. Um, if he's not second, he's close to it. I think DeAndre Hopkins, the the town level is still there for him. He got off to a slow start, but the second half of the
year was really really good. With for DeAndre Hopkins finishes the season as the fourth wide receiver is the standards in PPR leagues he finished, He's currently nine points beyond DeAndre Hopkins, playing one game less on it points for a game basis, Julio Jones was better than DeAndre Hopkins in full PPR. I still lean with Hopkins Hopkins too, but the obvious question is the guy that is ahead of both of them, Frankie. In this year's ranking, that's
Chris Godwin. Godwin finishes his season with eighty six catches, over hundred yards receiving, and nine touchdowns. Now, I don't know who their quarterback will be. UM. Personally, I think it will be Jamis Winston. Once again, I think either gets tagged or I just don't know that the answer for the Bucks at this point in time. Although Bruce arians might want to bring in his own guy through the draft or free agency, or you're bringing a Cam
Newton or whatever it might be. Um, I think they're gonna go with what they know, and they've talked up Jameis Winson, so I think he'll be back there. It's very bad, very good from a fantasy perspective. Shore He's He's right, He's a guy. He's gonna throw three touchdowns at three interceptions. That's what he does. Yeah. So, uh, Godwin nine touchdowns on this season. Both he and Evans were very good. Not as consistent as you would hope because one time one guy has a game, one time
the other other good game. Because God when the first round pick next year, I think he is a borderline. I think he's at the back end of the first round, maybe early second round pick, and you don't think you're gonna change depending on who the quarterback is. But uh, the spike weeks for whether it was Guy Win or Evans, I mean, those are monsters, especially if you play in best ball, Like if Winston is the quarterback, you just want exposures so much passing volume, he throws the ball
down the field. Uh. They put Godwin in a great position to succeed this year lining up in the slot more. Uh, they were using him in that Larry Fitzgerald's role from this Bruce Arians offense from when he was with the Cardinals, and it was conducive to a great season again he was. He's currently the wide receiver to only playing fourteen games. He didn't play last week. He's still wide receiver two overall.
He's wide receiver two overall in fantasy points per game. Personally, I would lean with the Hopkins and Julio just because they've done it longer, more consistent quarterbacks away. But I think once you get past those, guys like Chris Godwin and Mike Evans are very clearly going to be inside the top five, top six seven of wide receivers drafted late first round picks, early second round picks. You have Mike Evans, and I'll lean with Godwin. I think he's
the more versatile player. You move him more around the field. He's He's certainly more consistent than Evans. Evan has higher upside on a weekly basis. But give me the safer player. That's Chris Cottoman, interesting inter using stuff. The quarterback obviously matter to have a bad You see the first round and wrap it up. You can't get enough fantasy football.
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the break? Yeah, I think it's interesting to kind of pitt the Bucks wide receivers up against Davanta Adams, because I think they're all gonna be in a similar range heading into next year. You know, Devanta Adams was a dud earlier on in the season. You know, he was still seeing targets, he was catching balls, he was you know, he had the yards there, but did not score a touchdown until late in the season. He was so safe
for touchdowns in the past couple of seasons. And you know, La Fleur comes in here as the head coach of the Packers Greg and changes this offense where they don't really rely on Aaron Rodgers as much. The defense plays better, so they don't really find themselves in negative game scripts where they need to be throwing the ball as much.
The volume obviously leans with the Bucks, but you might get more consistency out of a Davantae Adams, who is clearly the go to guy for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. So I kind of just leave it open ended. I think it's a fair question. I think they're all gonna go in a similar range next year, you know, late first round range. But between the Bucks wide receivers and
Devanta Adams, which way would you lean? So for me, it's really tough because Davante Adams, you saw what the goods the good is of him in week sixteen, right thirteen catches a hundred billion yards and get in the end zone. But like that's the best you can get out of Davante Adams. But the amount of the Packers throw really scared man scares and Mat Lafleur is the head coach with this offense. They want to run the football and they already running football team. I know Davante
Adams was hoveringbots to injury pretty much all season. The books as currently constructed or not, They're going with you, Chuck and Chuck and Chuck and Chuck. That is Bruce Arians. That will always for Sara vbrus Arians. You and I have talked a lot over the past two or three years now, Frank, since we've been doing this about learning and learning about coaches and learning about styles and using that to our advantage. From what I know from his time at Tennessee to his time at Green Bay. Matt
Lafleur is not a vertical coach. He wants to run the football and use game control and a good defense and manage the game. For that reason, I'm gonna take the quantity. I'm gonna take Chris Godwin, gonna take god Would you take Mike Evans as well over Davonta Adams? I don't think so. Do you know it's crazy? I'm looking at the targets right here for Davontae Adams that hasn't been an issue since he's returned eleven, ten, twelve, ten, six, thirteen,
and sixteen targets. So he has double digit targets in every game but one since returning from injury. You're right. They definitely want to play better defense. They want to run the ball more. Aaron Jones has been great this year with the under the floor, you know, scoring touchdowns, catching passes. Uh. They they did don't want to rely on Aaron Rodgers as much. But when Aaron Rodgers needs to pass the ball, every team is going to have to pass the ball. Vante is a guy like they
don't really have a number two options. Jimmy Graham is washed up. Lazard is fine. They take a few deep shops with him per game. MVS has not worked out this year. I remember that debating MVS or Jona Austin.
How about none for the season. I said it on Tuesday's show, how I was between MVS and Geronimo my auction So so I like both right, and a lot of people were taking both Steelers wide receivers as well, Moncrief and James Washington, and a lot of people were also just pairing up the Steelers and James Conner and Jiujiah. We did that, sure, Okay, I think I would lean with Adams, though, I think I would take Adams over the Yeah, okay, the target volumes still different when they
throw the ball, they throw it. He's yeah, I think that about it. He is talented. Cushion issues obviously, this Towe issue, it's annoying. Um at the end of the first round that wrap round depending on who you would take. So you mentioned Jujus miss Schuster on Tuesday. We just mentioned him. Now, the other wide receiver that was really in that range he was talked about O'Dell on Tuesday
was Tyreek Hill. That's Tyreek Hill got injured in the first quarter of the first game, missed a whole bunch of time early, and then came back and pretty much was Tyreek Hill again. I feel like, kind of just looking at it, Tyreek Hill probably goes around the same spot next year, right, Yeah, late first round, early second round. I saw some like super early mox where that's where
he does end up going. Have no problem with him in that spot, had no problem with him as a first round He's writing this mix with Adams and the Bucks wide receivers, they're all gonna be the first with doing it again. I'm commament Tyreek Hill. I like Tyree Hill. I thought you got in a little bit of discount last year. I mean, I'm he did his job for me this year. Yeah, I would say that that is fair.
You know, outside of the injury, which sucks because when he was on the field, he's been pretty damn good. Tyreek Hill has been here. Uh not as many touchdowns as you've hoped. He still has been a little bit boom or bust. So you look at like the past four games, for example, he's only scored in one of those games. He did score two touchdowns back in Week fifteen, but last week five for seventy two in Week fourteen
six for sixty two. The Chief's offense hasn't been as dynamic this year because Patrick Mahomes has been banged up. But next year, I think, you know, there'll be a little bit of a buying opportunity here for Tyreek Hill, where you know, Patrick Mahomes can use this offseason to get healthy and we've seen what Patrick Mahomes is capable of what his upside can be. And based on that upside, obviously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey are his go to receivers.
That is not going to change. There is not a number two wide receiver on this team to speak of. Travis Kelsey is that guy, but like Sammy Watkins is not great at this point in his career. DeMarcus Robinson is who he is, McCole hardman. They'll take a few deep shots per game. Tyree Hill is undoubtedly the guy, and I actually think that based on how this season has gone, uh and this past month, depending on what he does in the playoffs, because if he blows up,
you know people are gonna remember that. But if he doesn't, I think that creates a little bit of a buying opportunity here for Tyree Hill and the Chief's offense as a whole. Listen, I'm backing on the Chiefs, Mini Mahomes men on Tyreek Hill. No issue there. You mentioned Danny Williams a few moments ago. I think it'll be interesting to see what they do it running back. I think we will assume they're not gonna stay pat right, They're
gonna do something. I think, um, there's just too many people available, whether it's David Johnson and leviyan Bel via trade drafting or running back with DeAndre Swift or signing a moment and Drake potentially signing one of those guys, So definitely a lot of names to pay attention to their Um, Kareem Hunt will end up somewhere, not back with Kansasy. I think that's safe to say. I think
that's safe to say as well. Let's move on, Frank to the other running mats that were taking around this spot. Two guys that had really good years was Nick Chubb and Dalvin Cook. Uh. Nick Chubb, I'll start with him because I owned Nick Schubb for longer than I owned Dalvin Cook, and I think when Nick Chubb was the volume was there obviously led the League of Russian going
into this past week. Well, Kareem Hunt came aboard. It changed everything, right, He didn't play third downs anymore, he didn't catch passes anymore, and it really sucked his value in PVR leaves. And it's very, very frustrating. Now. I don't know what's gonna happen with Kareem Hunt next year. I don't know what's gonna happen with the coaching staff
next year. I think Nick Chubb was really really good, but I can tell you as a Chubb owner, that was really frustrating and more frustrating than I hope they wouldn't be. Yeah, and this was a huge topic of conversation throughout draft season. There was a lot of people who didn't want Nick Chubb because they were like, oh, well, when you get to the Fantasy Football playoffs in the championship, and Nick Chubb is not going to be um, He's not gonna be seeing the same workload as he did
earlier on in the see reason. Well, they were right about him busting in the Fantasy Football Championship. It certainly wasn't due to volume reasons, because he still saw fifteen carries in Week sixteen. But yeah, we spoked about this on Monday. He was one of the bigger letdowns in the Championship. But look at the games before that. I mean a hundred and twenty seven yards and a rushing
touchdown against the Cardinals in Week fifteen. Uh, he didn't see as many carries later on in the season with Kareem Hunt there, certainly didn't see the targets of receptions. He is capable of catching the ball. We know that now because there was there was some question marks about his receiving role coming into the season. The first two months of the year. Great they used him as a receiver.
You know, you would get where he wound up with his UH, with his receiving or seven targets, thirty five catches, two d and seventy seven receiving yards, you don't want that to be better out of your your early round running back. But again, when he does on the ground, UH certainly makes up for that. He leads the league in rushing attempts. UH. He leads the league in rushing
yards as well, fourteen hundred and fifty three rushing yards. So, assuming Kareem Hunt is gone, I think Nick Chubb is gonna be in the mix as a top five pick, top five six pick heading into next year with no Kareem Hunt. I think that that's warranted. Are you taking him ahead or after Cook? I would take assumming Kareem Hunt is gone, I would take Nick Chubb ahead of Dalvin Cook, and I think that they should go in
and in that same range. I think that they're both gonna be top five, top six face just because he's been healthier in his career. You know, Dalvin Cook probably a more dynamic player overall. They certainly use him more in the pass game than the Browns used Nick Chubb. UM, but he has been more injury prone. We've seen that now basically every year that he's been in the carew in in the NFL, he's missed long stretches of time
now dealing with the shoulder injury. Chubb has just been healthier and because of that, I think they're both gonna be great. But you're splitting hairs. I would lean with Nick Chubb for the health reason over Dalvin Cook. What's say you? Maybe my leans probably Dalvin Cook. I think this is a um A coach, and he's like I think Freddy Kitchen is the joke. I know he wanted. He's giving the ball and Nick up a billion times, and that's that's what I think about this. Nick tub
was great this year, even with Freddy Kitch. So I just like Minnesota and their style what they do. They love that smash mound. They want to run the football. They don't want to leave it in the hands of Kirk Cousins, who sucks, so they leave down the cook. Yeah, Alexander Madison's there, He's going to take away some opportunities. It's gonna be annoying every once in a while. I think, great now my leans downin cook. I don't know that there's gonna be a wrong answer. I think both are
gonna be very popular. And I will have this conversation in April and I'll well, you disgard everything I'm saying now. Right now I'm saying, don't cook sure fair enough? So that really kind of it is. She's out like the first round of guy. You know, Dvin Coops were early second round, but like kind of finishes it out. So
let me go into round two. You think Odell Beckham already on Tuesday you mentioned if Coleman was going Joe make him and Joe Mixon is a really interesting one too, because Joe Mixon was a guy that started in that UM, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, David Johnson, James Connor, like he was there with those guys what it was all said and done. He went in the middle of the second round. Joe Mason end of the season pretty strong. We're a new with a new quarterback, hopefully a better offensive line.
What do think about Joe Mixon next year? Joe makes It's gonna be an interesting one to figure out. And I had Nick Arcolano on midway through the season. I believe you know, you were getting ready for your wedding whatever it might be great after I got married, maybe, uh and um, we were talking about dynasty byloads. And Joe Mixon obviously was a very popular one on the early part of the season because he's still super young.
We know what he's capable of. He is someone that can handle a full workload, and as the season went on, they started to give him that workload. He's a better pass catcher than they've actually used him as during this season with the Cincinnati Bengals and really his career, he's a really good pass catcher. He has everything that you want in a workhorse running back, Greig. The talent is there, the draft pedigree is there. The offensive line is going
to get better next year. Jonah Williams is gonna return. He was the first round pick of this year's draft with the Bengals, and I think overall, their offense is gonna be better. No, Joe Burrow is gonna come in here. They're gonna draft him first overall, and I think, yes, there'll be some growing pains for a rookie quarterback, but
he has shown a lot at the collegiate level. Greg and I think that there is reason to be excited about this offense overall, and Joe Mixon and the really this workload that he has received under Zach Taylor, that a rookie head coach here later on in the season, and because of that, he will be a popular pick come next year. I think that he is going to go ahead of some of these other names like Girly and Levion Bella. I think he's gonna be more of a mid second round pick. I think around Levian mel
makes sense. I think every other thing Mixing and Miles Sanders are gonna go like in the same in the same range we went through the first round and we didn't name Miles Sanders. Well, we were going over the first round of this year. Your traps, do you? I think all the names outside of David Johnson, I guess, you know what, as a silly statement, because Joe Mixon will go behind Dalvin Cook, behind Nick Chub, He'll go behind take On Barkley, will go behind Christian mccaffree, will
go behind Alvin Camara, hin Zekie Elliott. That's six. I just named right there. He's gonna go. Those players will be first round players still as well. I agree then also first round players. You have Michael Thomas is a lock that's seven. You have DeAndre Hopkins a lock that's eight. You have Julio Jones a lot that's nine. Maybe Lamar Jackson. I think I'm gonna say I would take Lamar Jackson head him. That's there are a lot of people that are going to agree with that. It's not a crazy standard.
So that's that's ten. I think that's ten strong. I think after that, I mean, you could get into Devon Adams, you can get into Tamba guys, and you're get into Joe Mixon, right, I think that's Derrick Hennery is a really interesting name too, like it will be a late first round pick. Ye will be yes, he will be Derrick Henry over Joe Mixon. Um, that's a close call. That's a close called. Probably would lean with Derrick Henry. If Ryan tadd Hills back some consistency year over year
offense looked great. Um under Riots tattle Hill. Once he took over A J. Brown, Everyone's gonna be excited about next year. John Nu Smith. We know what Derrick Henry is capable of. The monster workload here. Doesn't catch the ball in the backfield, but the rushing yardage is gonna be there. The rushing touches, uh, the his usage in the red zone, that's all gonna be there for Derrick Henry.
So I think it's close, But as of now, I would lean Derrick Henry over Joe Makeson heading into I was taking our final break to day and rather up the BFF for three questions in three minutes. Next NFL season is now alta, so you can be go the eighth person away one million dollars in a Fandueler Draft Kings tournament. My setting their lineup using the Daily Order
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up with three questions in three minutes. Frank, question number one, and I brought it up a lot to you in the past week or two. Will you make Lamar Jackson a top five pick? In personally, I will not not nine a one quarterback league. And I'll let you expand on this a little bit as well, because I know
you feel more strongly about it. I put out a poll before the show asking where do people think Lamar Jackson should go next year, and of the vote, current leading vote getter says second round for Lamar Jackson in a one quarterback league and a super flex. There's no doubt he is either the the first overall pick or the second overall pick behind to McCaffrey. But in a one quarterback league, I will not be selecting Lamar Jackson in the first round. How about you. I will be
selecting Lamar and Jackson the first round. As I said, just is rushing alone, which I'll read see you now. He had twelve hundred rushing yards and seven touchdowns. There, harb one, folks. He is six in the NFL in rushing yards overall. Okay, pretty crazy. So they'll will you're here in the off season. They're gonna dial back the runs. They don't want to. They don't want it to be silly. This is who they are, this is who he is. They're not going to change that. What happens when they
lose Greg Roman, Well that's their carversation. Oh all right, Greggy. If they lose Greg Roman, it's a different conversation. Yeah, and then I think that they will lose Greg Roman. Well, if they do, I think there. I trust John harmon Off. He's not gonna bring another Marty Morning Way time to do this. He's gonna bring someone that will get the
best of Lamar Jackson. He's easier said than done. I know, I know, question too, Yeah, question number two this week, Robert given the third is going to start for Lamar Jackson, would you play him in DFS? Yeah? I mean I haven't looked at the salaries yet, but I assumed that he will run a similar offense obviously to what Lamar Jackson has done all year. He will be able to provide some rushing yardage. A tougher matchup against Pittsburgh obviously
here and it must win Game four Pittsburgh. But you know, trying to find a quarterback that that is that cheap, that offers rushing upside as well, I think you'll be hard pressed to do so. So Yeah, I think r G three in DFS makes sense. Question number three, You don't think Greg Roman will be in Baltimore next year? Where will he be? Uh, let's go with someone's that's gonna fire their offensive coordinator. No, I don't really have a good nitches has anything comes Someone's gonna need an
offensive coordinator. He's the coach or maybe a head coach. That lead is alice coordinator. He's gonna go somewhere else. See that. We all we hope st