Week 8 Trade Show, Buying Or Selling, Giants Tanking!

You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy Best Friends Forever, M Do Do Do? Dude? Did it? Dude? Do Do? Do? Dude? Do it? Dude? Dude? Do Dude? Did it do? Yeah? This is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports and Radio Network, soon to be alongside Frankie Standfeld. I am Greg Sussman. We'll

get to Frankie in just a moment. Today on the program, we'll give you everything you need to know about who you should trade for, who you should trade away, and of course we'll go over the waiver wire and let you know who we got and how much they went. Four. We'll also getting to the Giants tanking, what the Raiders are doing, and a whole lot more around the NFL. With that, I gotta ask Frankie what's going on. I'm sorry, Greg, I mismanaged my time. I had to go. Uh let's

go train the main vein. I didn't didn't tell anybody. I'd like to be honest with the viewers. Here we are on a Wednesday, It's hump day trade show. I got a few players that we want to talk about. Uh, room on the rundown if you want to check those out. Hey, look at the run out of last night and actually do work. It's like, holy crap, right, did this ready? Is your microphone? Yeah? All right? I think my headphones are doing that thing again, doing that thing again. They

don't work? All right? Um, So yeah, we'll get into some of those players. Got some news that came out, obviously, the balal pal news, so we can talk about that. But first, yeah, sure, I do have later on the show. I have like a niche type question for like keeper leagues, and I bring it up every single year because I

don't know how to fix it. There's like a fire sale period in my keeper leagues every single year, and a crazy trade just went down in my home league, which I'm the commissioner for and people get angry about these trades, but I'm like, I don't know how else to block it. I feel like you've brought up like, all right, if you trade away a keeper, you can only get two good players in return from the keeper.

So it's like when was this? So it's in this trade happened in my league, So may I ask if this was yesterday afternoon around like three pm or so. I will bring that up as well, because it's all kind of tied him together. This trade happened in my league for a team that's going for this year. They acquire Aaron Jones, Tyreek Hill, Jared Goff, Travis Kelsey, Philip Lindsay, and Jarvis Landry. They gave up O. J. Howard, Derrick Henry, a,

Marty Cooper, Marcus Marriott all trash. But the main piece of the trade is Patrick Mahomes, who's an eighth round keeper the next year. And it's a super flex league. So essentially six seven good players traded for Patrick Mahomes, O J. Howard and a bunch of trash. So I gotta you know, like, if anyone else has issues like this in their keeper league, We're like there's fire sales that take place because, as you know, obviously the team that's tanking is like one in six. They're trying to

get Patrick Mahomes as their keeper for next year. A four four, four, three, six seven nine. You know, maybe I should just limit it, like all right, I just think two players take, you know, Jarvis Landry and Travis Kelsey. You get those two players that give up Patrick Mahomes, that player that opposing owner gets Patrick Mahomes next year as a keeper. And then, because we never spoke about it,

this is our first year doing super Flex. Throughout the day, I brought up as the commissioner because I thought it was fair. We never spoke about should you be allowed to keep one quarterback or two quarterbacks because it's a super flex league and the quarterback market for fantasy is

obviously limited. You only have as many quarterbacks as there are starting for teams for the running back position and stuff like, there are obviously two or three wide receivers on every team that you might be able to start. So I brought that up throughout the day and are esteemed colleague Michael Florio got very angry with me because he's like, how can you change rules mid season. I'm like, dude, we never established a rule. Maybe that's my fault as

the commissioner. Like I don't even like being commissioner next year, I'm just gonna say, like, all right, scrulously, I don't want to be commissioned anymore. What do I get it to being a commissioner. I don't get money. I don't even get a thank you, Greg, do you get a thank you? That's not being commissioner. I don't want to do this. Like if you're a commissioner in your league, God bless you, because I hate it. That was my Wednesday yesterday, so I mean Tuesday, today's Wednesday. Greg saw

me very angry yesterday. I mean there's about three o'clock yesterday normal, and he was going off. I was like, oh, man, I hope is not good with his fiancee. I hope nothing serious. And then I saw so Then I walked up stairs to do stupid stuff like being a commissioner for a parent. Then I walked up stairs to do some Vanduel hurry at with Maria and she goes, why is frank Man at Floria? I'm like, what are you talking about? You're not you knowing this, like, I have

no idea what you're talking about. I just know Frank had a little grouchy all of a sudden, and then Frank I go back down stairs or prase like muttering and his breath. I hate being commissioner. I hate being commissioner. I hate to a commissioner. Yeah, it sucks. There's nothing good at that. That's why I stopped out of it. That's why I stopped it sucks. It's yeah, if you know how to solve my I do know. I told you how. I will bring that up during the off season.

I should have brought up this pass office. We talked about it last year. If anyone else, I you know, I think it's a good discussion, if anyone wants to

trade in and talk about it. We were waivers, allright, Cool, So now the um my waivers just went through in ESPN, I always needs a good ramin like for whatever reason, and maybe it's actually, do know the reason that I look at this league during the show is because waivers go through at noon, So it's like, oh, it's like the most recent one I have, and I'm also doing much better than this and then in my other league, so might have something to do. That all right? So

do you wanna do you want to play? See how much the guys went for? Alright, we're starting with I told you mar Tavis Briant. I got him. He went for six bucks fair price. You thought that was cool? Yeah, the INESTI highest bit of more Tavis Bryant was one dollar. Oh not so bad. I mean five bucks difference. If you want have done the like the eleven or twelve, I would I would have I would have another I would have upset. I originally had it at four dollars.

I bumped it up to six. But okay with that. I picked him up off waivers in one of my home leagues last night, where we don't run fab just classic waivers. That's weird that that's a BIPs of commissioner there, so you know he doesn't care. I alright. The highest priced player this week was Danny Amondola. One one dollars. Wasn't Max wrong league next highest bid eight, It's twenty dollars. It's a lot, man, It's it could be a short

term team with the worst record in the league. It's hometown Heller, hometown Heller, do he he probably drafted a bunch of Jaguars. That's why his team sucks, right, Jaguars fan, did you get Lenny four Nette? He did? Did you have a Leonard four Nett? Indeed? Yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's not gonna get it. So we were all we were all excited in the draft because he drafted his guy, Letard Fournett, and I drafted my guy and take k Barklay worked out a little bit better. For it's a

little bit better. It was a little like side side discussion, side bar bar uh. According to Football Outsiders, right to have these offensive line metrics, Giants, I mean, as you would guess people, are the worst offensive run blocking offensive line in football, still RB four overall this season and is averaging four point nine yards for terry. He's just ridiculous, so ridiculous. But back to dani ammondl he went for three dollars in my league, so you can see the juxtaps,

the twenty one dollars in year league. Three dollars in my league, and I think he's more of a short term play. I kind of like him this week going up against Houston, assuming he's healthy. He did practice yesterday on a limited basis, that's the short week. That game is on Thursday night. As of right now, the Texans are favored by seven and a half points, which I know it's bro October, but it seems like a lot of points regardless. Um the Dolphins might be playing from behind.

Dannie Mandole just had a big game. I like him for this week. I just worry about his potential for the long term because he is so injury prone. I think Jachim Grant has more long term upside for this team. And of course, like we mentioned downstairs, when we're talking Greg, no one, no one's bringing up Vante Parker. They're they're writing him off for dead. He's going to be the guy that goes off this week. Watch did he get picked up in your league? But neither did you keep Grant?

How much did you ken Grant? One? For um, he did not get picked up, which is annoying because I guess I had didn't get picked up in Miley do you know what happened? And I can't pick him up now because our next waiver run is Sunday, So my next waiver run, my next waveror one is tomorrow. So I had the same person, meaning dropped for Grant, my back Grant was my backup bids Martek's Bryant. I was stupid and not making the backup bids Avendola as well,

so I didn't get them. I don't know if that's stupid though, because I think Martavis Bryant and Jachem Grant similar. That's why I did that. They're very like Boomer Busty. Neither matchup, Like, both matchups are fine, They're like all right, Like the Texans are whatever against the past, the Colts are, you know, their secondary is not great, They're not bad either, So like I don't know, I feel like both guys are in similar positions this week, between Martavis Bryant and

Jachiem Grant. Yeah, that's that. That's why I did it. Of a surprise. Do you know who got this is the craziest one I've seen yet this week? In all honest day. You know Chris Ivory is the backup named Macilashaw McCoy. Yes. Do you know Chris Ivory's backup is Marcus Murphy? Yes? He went for a lot in my league too. What what I'm missing here? I don't know, do we miss something? Remember fifteen bucks? I feel like

Chris Ivory. I think got banged up towards the end of that game too, what it was, But still, isn't he going to be the guy? I don't know what this Marcus Murphy thing is. Like, dude, wonder fifteen dollars in my league too. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing here. He came on, all right, here's his world World blurb. He came on in relief of Tom McCoy, who left with a head injury in the first quarter.

I re handled most of the Bill's backfield responsibilities after that, though he did leave briefly during the third quarter after Colt's cornerback Pierre de Seer came down awkwardly on his left foot. Nine year vet broke out, broke have a couple of big runs in Buffalo blah blah blah. Um. It doesn't seem like he's not going to be ready to play on Monday night. I don't know. And he dominated the work too in that game. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know what I'm missing with this one. I

think people are just taking uh, fifteen dollars worth. Yeah, I don't know. I think they're just like looking at him as like the upside shot. He played very well in the preseason, He's played well in the limited touches he's gotten this season. He's first snaps in a month. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have done it, obviously, I didn't. I only have twenty five dollars left in my home league, so my only bid was the Patriots defense for two dollars.

But the Patriots defense went for eight dollars. I would say they're probably the top stream defense. This week Monday Night against the Buffalo Bills, I went to middle Patriots. They went for seven dollars in seven in year league. There you go seven dollars for the Patriots. I'm still riding the airriaz on a Cardinal one more time. Um, do you have leagues where you still have like a first waiver run? Is that the first waiver run of the week Wednesdays, but you do it every day at noon?

Do you have any leagues where you do it overnight? Still? Yeah? Is that Tuesday and Wednesday or Wednesday and Thursday? Tuesday Wednesday? That's what I always thought. It was Tuesday to Wednesday. Like now I don't know. Maybe fantasy football is like evolving, but more and more people are doing waivers when day night and Wednesday into Thursday morning that I don't know. I'm gonna be hosting the Frenzy up next. I was gonna ask him Day about it, because obviously, you know,

he's a Fantasy football veteran. I wanted to ask him, like, when did this change happen? Because as long as I've been playing Fantasy, it's been the first way to run. It's Tuesday night into Wednesday forever. You know, you wake up Wednesday morning, you're excited to see, you know, rolling around in your bed. Who who did I get? In Fantasy? It used to be like the highlight of my Wednesday morning. I mean, what else are you're excited about on Wednesday night?

It's a hump day, you see, I get excited about looking at my waivings. I don't. I don't know why. It's like maybe it's too many people are still recapping the week before because like the Monday night football game just ended, so we're like still kind of gathering all the information for Tuesday. So they pushed it back from Wednesday and to Thursday. I like Tuesday night waivers into Wednesday morning. I agree, Um Devant Parking for eight bucks

eight bucks, and again jam Grant undrafted. Seems Bryan was already owned in my league, so well had so my league Martin and Jalen Roscharver Bull owned already. Lante Parker. Is kind of feel like there's a bad job, Frank. I should have picked one of Parker or Grant up just to see if they went off in that Thursday night game. But I'll pose this question to you, Greg. I know that my thinking was who the hell am I going to drop? So this is my bench right now.

Like the two names that pop out are Mike Williams and Jamaine Curse. Would you have dropped one of those guys for a Dolphins wide receiver? I think I would see what had I think I would have dropped keeper league too. So that's why I don't know if I want to drop Mike Williams. Aren't they on a by keeper league? Mad, because if if it was not a keeper league, I would have dropped Mike Williams for one of them. You know, maybe Tyroll Williams is gone next

here and Mike Williams. You know what, I completely get that I would have dropped my Williams. I would have dropped Mike Williams on the bye for one of the redraft in a redraft, not a keeper. Keeper. Do you have dropped me in curse? I just spent nine dollars on him last week. Yeah, so I didn't. I didn't off Jermaine Cares for you. Um, other names here, Trenton Cannon. Trenton Canning five dollars. I think that's a fair price.

Leading receiver last week, sixty nine yards. Nice. I do think that he will be in the mix this week. We've we kind of touched on the news, but Lal Powell headed to i R with this neck injury. I don't think we've see him for the rest of the season. He is eligible to return, but again, I don't think we see him. Um. And also I've referenced this multiple time this week. The Jets are not going to give Crowell this huge workload just because law Powell is out.

Trenton Cannon is going to have a role on this team. So kind of similar to like that Jalen Richard role for the Oakland Raiders. That's what we'll see out of Trenton Cannon. He's very explosive. This was an explosive player coming out of college. This is something, this is These are the ways that he's been used before. We saw that in the preseason as well. He can catch passes, make plays happen after the catch. Um. So if you need a flex in the PPR League this week, I

think Trenton Cannon's in play. But we should also get into right now, I don't know how much long term value Trent Cannon has because Elijah McGuire is eligible to return in week nine, which is next week, and I do think that he will take on that Balal Powell role once he returns. The Jets like him a lot. Jets like him a lot. All Right, there you go. Um, Elijah McGuire went for four in my league, so Trent Cannon went for more than McGuire, which is a little bit.

Which is a little bit frustrating because when we were talking about the players downstairs in the order that I had them ranked, I told you Martavis Bryant was one, and then I said to me the number one pick, the next pickup would be Elijah McGuire. I spent three dollars. Think about it. Come week nine and on, you could potentially have a running back who's filling that Bald Powell rolling. It's not like Powell was lighting the world on fire,

understand that. But Elijah McGuire has some upside. He made some big plays last year, and he could be a running back who's getting twelve to fourteen touches from week nine on. So I think anytime there's a running back like that available, you're somewhat treat Yeah. I I spent three dollars on him. He would went. I'm just happy because I was only gonna bed four and I think

I took it down to three. And the person also been four has are tied with the same record, but he has less points than me, so he would on the tiebreakers. I feel better, alright, I feel a little bit better. Were you dropping from aguire the same two guys? Man? I think I think I'm only dropping, only dropping Teami and Ratley and Josh Reynolds. So he's still on your team. So the rat still on my team for now. But I'm gonna put another claim in for him to get

rid of him right now. Greg, we mentioned and I think it's important. I'm sorry it is important because ESPN doesn't do this. Look, we both look at the auction report on ESPN in our basketball legue, for instance. But when you look at the free agent auction report and not the transaction list, it doesn't tell you who gets dropped. It just tells you who gets added in from how much. So I was looking at the players I got dropped just because I do have waivers to go in every day.

Um at noon, Nelson Aghiler was dropped, and I'm like, I dropped him in in for mar Tavios Barnet, Yeah, pick him up. And the rat probably dropped the rat trying to have Nelson al Keem Grant, Uh, probably to Keem Grant has more upside of him at this appartments is crazy. We're gonna take a break here. More the waivers, more on some trades. I got really interesting trade off for yesterday. I want to run to buy you when

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Back with you. Here are the Fantasy best Friends Forever, Frank Stanfeld and any other waiver guys. Do you want to bring up Frank before we move on? I did just want to touch on Courtland Sutton a little bit because we had a report just before we came on out of Mike Bliss in Denver that he does not expect to Marrius Thomas to be traded again. Anything can happen at the drop of a dime, Like you get traded tomorrow, you can be traded after this week. The

trade deadline is next Tuesday. But from all indications coming out of Denver, he does not expect marys Thomas to be traded. So yesterday we spoke about Courtland Sutton, seemed a little bit more likely that he was gonna get traded and that Courtland Suton would step into that wide receiver two roll. But maybe now it's it's not so likely to happen. Greg. We'll see you any standards were likely to be traded? Yeah, so, uh no, I don't think I mean his value is higher, but he's also younger,

like I can't see him training him. I think the offense is kind of built around Emmanuel Sanders in those young running backs in Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman. Uh. I actually picked up Courtland Sutton in one of my leagues yesterday. I I think I dropped that's a redraft league. I dropped Mike Williams, I dropped Nelson Aghilar. I picked up Mark Tavis Bryant and Courtland Sutton opening that to marry Thomas would get traded. So we'll see what happens there. Okay,

so there you go. Um, all right, the trade off for that my buddy got yesterday, I don't do with me, but he asked me his opinion that it was really my opinion that it was really really good trade. It is Sony Michelle and George Kittle for David Johnson. Wow. Uh, good question, right. This is the trade shows why I bring it up. Yeah, it is a good one. We don't really know what's going on with Tony Michelle. Uh. The m R. I revealed that it doesn't look like

it's going to be a long term injury. But I think they all kind of expect him to miss this week at least. It's just tough because this game is on a mon to day. So if you pick up Sony Michell, you're also gonna have to pick up Kenya and Barner and just I don't know man runing Michelle and George Kittle or David Johnson. What what format? Half PBR? I believe it's it's not my league, but I believe

it's half PPR. Yes, So in half PPR, I can tell you his other tight end which I asked that question if you lose Kiddo's other head ends David and Joko, which I think was okay, um his rby want to say on Barkley the other running backs on his team right now other than Sony Michelle, who's hurt, Doug Martin, Nahem Hines, Alfred Morris. So what's the thinking in this trade? Just trying to get any type of value for Sony Michelle before he potentially goes down with this knee injury.

Right so we know he has a knee injury, we don't know how long he's out. He has PPR he's had aside from this week because he left early, he's had eight teen Fantasy points. Are more three games he's been fantastic, But I think it's getting out in front of the injury beforehand. Obviously, the Arizona schedule is pretty nice. New offensive coordinators Byron Left. But you heard Gavin Corey talking about that a few moments go. You're buying David Johnson one last time, one last chance in on d J.

That's the thought. Yeah, I understand what he's trying to do, and I do think Byron Left, which is gonna like it can't get worse than what Mike McCoy is doing, Like it can it can only go up or David Johnson. And you mentioned the upcoming schedule going up against the forty niners. Then a week nine by you get the Chiefs, the Raiders, the Chargers, Packers, Lions, uh and the Falcons.

So it is a very good schedule. On think I do it, Okay, I said, I said, yes, that you're you're that worried about Yeah, I'm just worried, like I know the m R. I said, But it would just it would just scare me that all of a sudden he doesn't play and then you have nothing, because you know you you you know, for the most part, even if you don't know. Actually, this is definitely a risky move though, Like, this is a risky move because either

way the Cardinals offensive line. It's not like Byron Left, which is gonna make the Cardinals offensive line automatically. They're not. I know, I understand. That's just what you're hoping on is that he gets the more involved in the pass game. It doesn't run him straight into the back of his centers the game. Correct. So here's my insurance, though, all right, Sony Michelle plays Monday. Are you gonna wait that out? If you own Sony Michelle, you have to own Kenya

on Barner right now. I have to. Okay, So you're waiting, So you're gonna have to wait that out. They're gonna start Keny on Barner. I wouldn't be surprised if by Friday we get a few inactives already revealed by Friday's time, or even Saturday name. I wouldn't be surprised if two or three days earlier we get the notice Sony Michelle's out when the Patriots by it has not happened yet. That pulling it up for you right now? Thank you? Actually,

I have it all right. We got the pages of a week eleven by if it's possible they hold him out through that. This is week eight, so because we eight nine and ten, potentially it's possible. So we I mean, yeah, anything is possible, but a the chances that means we have do we have dr A or and we've talked we have somebody tomorrow. I have a feeling that they

will be very pessimistic, So I agree with you. The thing is, if Sony Michelle doesn't play this week, any of the short week against the Packers, maybe he goes back before the bye with the Titans. But like there's a lot of guesses here obviously, David Johnson, you know how you have a vibe. You also know he's healthy. You also know that schedule looks good. I don't want to I don't want the risk of Somendy Michelle thing. I'm just nervous. I'm really really nervous. Comes down to

how risk averse are you? Like? What is like, I'm not injury optimistic. I told you that already, and that makes sense. I just I think I'm just buying. You know what we've seen out of Sony Michelle, his upside when he's healthy, playing in that Patriots offense. It's just so much better than what we've seen out of David Johnson. And you know, I got a tweet or no, I saw a YouTube commedist Fay and one of our videos.

Why do you guys keep bashing David Johnson because he's actually RB eleven on the season, which is true, it's factual, But that has been a lot of touchdown dependent, Like how often do we expect the Cardinals get inside the red zones on scoring opportunities for this team? We're really just buying in on hoping that Byron left which is better than Mike McCay, which he absolutely should be. We still don't know that to be true. So there there.

I think there's risk on both sides here, like, yeah, you're getting the running back who's actually going to give you a floor of points every single week. The thing is, when both guys are healthy in our plane, sonysel upside is unquestionably better. In my opinion, it's a close trade. I would I would, I would keep sowing your show. Okay, so there you go. I agree with the upside with you. I'm with you on the upside for sure. I just un there's about the injury. Yeah, okay at eight four

or four A four, three, six seven. Now we're gonna have your calls. Went to your trade questions as well, Frank and Ain that you wrote in the rundown this morning last night was about Christian McCaffrey, and I think it was a good one. We brought him up earlier in the week that the rushing number is significantly down. Now he's gotten a job done for the most part in the passing game. But it seems like all has

gone quiet. And Christian McCaffrey, before the season began, we believe Christian McCaffrey had the best chance, and this is before he stuck in the first round, had the best chance to be this year's Todd Gurley. Ultimately, we don't really have one. I think it's you know, it's Melvin Gordon has been say Kwon Barkley. Those guys were locked in first rounders. Christian McCaffrey was on that borderline. We thought McCaffrey. I even threw a Davante Freeman. Obviously it

did not work out. Um, Christian McAffrey was certainly in the conversation. But like I said, it's been quite a few weeks for Christian McCaffrey. If you're a Christian McCaffrey owner, what are you thinking right now? Well, if I'm a McCaffrey owner, I'm holding. But I brought him up on this I put him on this list because as a as a potential by low candidate, just because what we brought up earlier in the week is that he only

has one touchdown on the year. And I know touchdowns are never gonna be a big thing for Christian McCaffrey because the way he's used. Yes, I mean this guy plays. He's played of the snaps this year for the Carolina Panthers. He is on the field, there's no doubt about that. But once you get inside that red zone, it is a lot of Cam Newton and we've seen that time and time again. Uh, they run that read option, Cam Newton fakes it, just runs it in for a touchdown.

So that's not gonna change. Christian McCaffrey doesn't have a rushing touchdown this year. His only touchdown is a receiving touchdown. What I'm hoping for here is owners who are panicking and looking at oh he had He hasn't had more than twenty nine rushing yards. Each of the past two weeks, he hasn't scored a rushing touchdown. He's had you know, four point one yards per carry or less in three

straight games. Um, the passing work is still there, and look, Christian McCaffrey is still getting the job done because he's RB nine right now and half PPR leagues in terms of points per games, So that's right around where he was drafted. He was drafted as like no. Top eight, top ten running back on that you know that round one round to swing. So he's given you what you wanted.

I am just looking for the fantasy owner who maybe they've lost a couple of games in a row, maybe they're three and four, maybe they're two and five, and they've seen the past couple of weeks what McCaffrey has done and they're just trying to get whatever they can get for him. So that's where I think, you know, if you have a positive record, if you're four and three or better, even if you're three and four, I think this is a risk that you can take because

I think better days are coming for Christian McCaffrey. Okay, better days hopefully coming for Christian McCaffrey. Frankie willing to take the risk on CMC. Maybe you wait after this week because the Ravens are the number one defense against the run. Uh, they've been very stingy against running backs. And then after that you get the bind the Steelers. You have a buy in there too, though, so oh no, he's already had I'm sorry, I've already had their bye.

So that's even another reason if you can go out and acquire Christian McCaffrey, you don't have to worry about the by after this week. Maybe he sucks again this week against the Ravens because it's a tough matchup. There's a number one defense against running backs this year. After this you get the Bucks, the Steelers, the Lions, the Seahawks, the Bucks again, the Browns. You still have the Falcons in your championship week in week sixteen. So I know,

normally we say you don't look that far ahead. We have enough of us handle sized now to know that the Falcons are really, really bad. I guess passed against pass catching running backs. So I like buying Christi McCaffrey right now, or maybe even waiting a week if he has a bad game against the Ravens. You get him at even lower value. Speaking of the Ravens and bring up Alex Collins. You does will have his by to come. Uh Collins seymore goal line and red zone work. Finally here, Frank,

that's a good thing. Yeah. Over the last two games, Alex Collins has four red zone carries to Buck Allen's one. The snaps are still in that forty range. I kind of just wish that the Baltimore Ravens would just hand it over to him and really, you know, let's get this guy on this feet on the field over fifty percent at a time, sixty percent at a time. Throw him the ball. We saw in that one Thursday night game against the Bengals where they actually threw him the ball.

It looked like a very competent receiver. And Alex Collins, you know, people look at him, he's kind of like a Marshawn Lynch mold right. He's a very hard runner. You look at him and you realize you think, all right, you know, he's more of like a between the tackles runner. He's a downhill runner kind of guy. Um, you know, he's never gonna do much in the past game. In that game he showed that if you get him out in space, he can make people miss in the open field.

So I kind of just wish that the Ravens would get him more involved there. But I do like the usage in the red zone over the last two weeks again, four red zone carries to one for Buck Allen. We do someone have to worry about Lamar Jackson getting involved now on the goal line. They've been using running plays with him, which I get from a fantasy like an NFL perspective, it makes sense because it gives defenses another

look that they're not expecting. But like the Ravens using Lamar Jackson the Saints using Taysom Hill, it's like, all right, guys, like we get it. But I I like buying in on Alex Collins because the red zone usage that's coming around and again after that week tend by greg great matchups here the Bengals, who have allowed the fifth most fantasy points of running backs, the Raiders have allowed the eighth most, the Falcons have allowed the fourth most. That

the Chiefs have allowed the second most fantasy points. We have a great, great schedule for Alex Collins and overall of the Baltimore Ravens coming out of that week tend By. I like Alex Collins. I've he's grown on me as the season has gone on. When there's honestly fantasy production has still been fine. It's been frustrating. No, honestly, it hasn't been fine. Frustrating because he's he's RB thirty in

terms of points per games. Greg There's a guy that I had what RB fifteen as a mid range RB two. Now there's been some inconstence. See there's been games where he does pay off that RB two value, that top twenty running back value that we expected. But a lot of it is out of his hands. It's you know, it's in the coaching staff. But the more that he gets work in the red zone and actually converts, the more they'll trust him and continue to give him that work.

That's what we saw over the second half of last season where they just kind of handed it over to Alex Collins and he produced. And that's why I liked Alex Collins a lot. Coming into this season. I think we could see another big second half out of Alex Collins. It's just dependent on them giving him the work. I can see, I can see it happening. I can see it happening. I think the work the workload is there. You read the schedule that's there. I like Alex Collins

and hey that we can buy. If you have someone that has Alex Collins as toward the bottom of the standings, that's fighting for a playoff spot, you go out and get him. Now. This is your opportunity because you can. If you're hiring the standings, you have the ability to sit through it. How do you feel about Marlon mac right now? Because he's really I'm getting a lot of questions.

People are really overvaluing Marlin Mack. We just had a question in the YouTube chat, what do you like better rest of season Marlon Mack or Christian mccaffreyaffre like this is this is how high people are putting Marlon Mack on that pedestal because of what he did this past week against the Bills. It looked very good against the Jets, And you know, I was diving into these these run

blocking analytics from football outsiders. Do you realize that the Indianapolis Colts are fifth in run blocking this year and fifth in pass blocking? Like their offensive line is actually getting the job done this year. They invested a lot in their offensive line. They used very early draft picks on that offensive line. Uh. They signed a few guys for depth in the off season. So it's nice to see.

And I'm you, you know, more than anyone great a team investing in offensive line and it actually working out for them. The Indianapolis Colts have done that. Uh, Andrew Luck has looked great for fantasy purposes. Marlon Mack the past two games has looked great. But I do bring him up because this is the trade show. Should we be trying to sell Marlin Mack high? Like would you try and turn Marlon Mack into Alex Collins right now? If that's something could do? I would? I would? I

get hell explosive. Morlon Mack has looked he He's looked awesome, There's no doubt about that, dude. But isn't sustainable. The Colts have had a couple of good games here. I think fantasy owners value him as a high end RB two right now. Which is crazy is that? I mean it could definitely, like there's always a talented he's talented based on the way that this team is run blocking, like that could be his value. Sure, but what if we said about the Colts typically you don't go to

Indianapolis to find your fantasy running backs. Maybe he bucks the trend, Yes, exactly, Maybe we're wrong about that team carries this past week, touches over a hundred fifty total yards, two touchdowns. It was against the Bill's defense, a Bill's defense that had been playing better, albeit but that Bill's defense was on the field a lot in that game. So that's why you know Marlon Mack was able to

run those guys down. I think if you can find someone in your league who values Marlon Mack is a high end RB two right now I'm trying to sell. I don't know that I trust I do it straight up. For Alex Collins, I don't know that I do that either. Okay, did you do that? I think I would Marlin Max to get out Collins. I think I would buying the Alex Collins thing. All in mag I'm gonna look at

the upcoming schedule. The Raiders this week, great matchup. You get the buy in Week nine out of the body, you get the Jaguars, the Titans, who have been good against the run, the Dolphins have not been good against the run, and then you get the Jaguars again. The Texans. So it's kind of a mixed bag schedule coming out of the by but more bad than good. I'm trying

to sell him on mac. Okay, all fun, call other players that you said you were buying before we get to the your calls on the other side of the break, Will Fuller. You buying Willfuller right now? Yeah? I like QUT's hurt. That's that's a big part of it because Kiki QT was taking away from Will Fuller. That was QT q T q T. I don't say he's good, q T. That's what we're doing. He KEQ. Now he's not going to miss the rest of the season, but

this is a hamstring injury. That's that's lingering. And we just saw this past week with Will Fuller in a tough matchup against the Jacksonville Jaguars, in a game where Kiki QT left. He had he had a very solid game. He was back to that eight targets, six receptions, sixty eight yards. And I saw what he did those first three games back. And remember Greg, I was telling you I was buying high on will Fuller. Now he needs to be passed this hamstring injury. It looks like he

was healthy for this game against the Jaguars. If Kiki Qt is out and it's just DeAndre Hopkins and it's just Will Fuller, I'm not trusting the Texans running game. This is still a team that's going to pass a lot. If you can get Will Fuller for you know, his wide receiver three value. I think this is a this is a move that can pay off big for fantasy purposes. Why it's risky is Deshaun Watson. Does he make it through the season. The guy has a punctured lung right now?

So does that worry you? Because I'm mean, if it's Brandon Weed and throwing Will full of the ball, how do you feel about Will Fuller? Event I just think that when we see his when we saw his upside earlier on in the season, I want to take a shot on trying to get back to that upside, especially if he's healthy. Okay, I do you worry? It's a risking move. He called Shaun Watson's health right. He just needs to get to the bye right like that, that's

what he needs to get to. Which it's the Dolphins this week on the short week, and then we get Denver in Week nine, and then we get that by, but it's the short week mini by. You have ten days off then another bye. I think it's worth pulling the trigger for will Fuller. I think it makes sense because I think I I think even if Shaun Watson's banged up, he'll gut through this week and you have him for a while. I like will Fuller. He's coming back,

He's coming back. Do they play a threat? A red zone threat, which is surprisingly is what will Fuller is? Is well worth taking the shot on right now, take a break, come back with your telephone calls right after this. If you're someone that needs fantasy sports advice every day, the Fantasy Sports Radio Network has you covered. When you download the n T S Y Sports Radio Network GAP, you get the top fantasy advice every single day right through the weekend. Be sure to listen to our weekend

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guy man that was screwed up last night. Well here's the thing, Greg that that's the public perception, right, Like that's what everyone's gonna think, like, oh, you know, J. J. Reddick was the guy last night. I gotta jump back in on J. J Reddick, Right, doesn't necessarily happen that way. Man, Like he had forty six fantasy points last night, but these are one of those things. Were like, all right, they're gonna they're gonna bump up his his salary. Everyone's

gonna think, all right. J. J J. Reddick went off last night. He's gonna do the same thing. He had a ton of rebounds and a ton of assists last night. That's not normally part of J. J. Reddick's game. I wouldn't be surprised if markul folds to the guy who bounces back tonight and everyone's gonna be off of him. J. J. Reddick is fifty two dollars tonight, and he was what he was like four thousand something yesterday. I don't remember what was not right price? Not bad price? All right? Uh?

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doesn't matter. Kevin loves shooting is like thirty percent from the field right now. But he's also taking like twenty shots of games. So he's getting a ton of shooting opportunities and he's getting a ton of rebounds too. So I like that there at starting the lot of Kevin Love Tonight, the question will be Janice or Lebron for me. That's what I will have to figure out later on eight four or four eight four, three six, eight seven nine. It's gonna the phone lines and begin with Darren in Philly.

What's going on? Darren's how you doing it? Doing? Great? Man? What's happening great? So I got three questions for you guys. They're kind of quick though. UM. One is I have to pick one running back between Alan's, Kinnon's, Carlos Hide and jay L Richard. Pick one for that PPR full point PPR. The Ravens are going up against of course, you know I'm trying to pull it up. My page is loading Ravens, Ravens Carolina. You know in PPR it

actually used Janalan Richard. I used Jalan Schard against the Colts. That's one of six games this week that have an over under total of fifty points or more, so Vegas is expecting points. They also have the Raiders as home dogs in this game, so they could be playing from behind. Any time. We've seen that, We've seen a very safe floor of Jalon Chard in PPR. No, Marshall Lynch, I'm taking Chard there. Okay, there you go. I Losten Sard.

He has another question though, Yeah, um, is it time to drop Jordan Read for something on the waiver wire? That's a great question because I have Jordan Read in mind as well, and it depends who and I looked at the free agents in my league. I haven't actually up right now as well. Here's the one. Here's the one that everyone's gonna ask, Greg give him Chris Hendon. Do you dropped Jordan Read for Chris Hendon back to back games with a touchdown. He's playing more snaps now

for the Jets. They use a draft pick on him. This past year season high in both targets and receptions, had seven targets, four receptions. This past week. Should have had two touchdowns, but his foot was out of bounds on the one yard line if he has two touchdowns. I think you're thinking a little bit more about this, Greg, I'm not doing it. Would you do Force McDonald? You got so Vans McDonald, evern do it for Vance McDonald.

I would do it for so not Ben Watson, because I was the one I have been watching my way. I'm not doing everybody watching the feed in New Orleans. I'm doing it for Vance McDonald. I'm not doing for Ben Watson. I think I do it for Chris Herndon. I don't know if that's just me buying in on the Jets, but I like the rookie connection here. I think these guys are growing together. What was your third question man before we let you go? And the third

question is Carlos Hire? Will he be a mustarting game? Or guy? Feel about Carlos It's a really good question as well a U the Jaguars of the Week nine by we tend by I can look home on the I will I will say this if he I believe he will be acting this week. He's gonna check in as a high inflexible. So you haven't done my running back rankings yet, but he's going to be in the FLEXI. So here's the here's the thing they face. They face Filly this week, they face Philly this week. It's tough.

The tough match up they have the Week nine by and then everyone thinks Leonard point has come back week ten. What are you training for, Carlos Hide for if you're not going to use him heavily in week nine? We eight rather tough matchup, man, But I think he's a I think he's good. I think I want to play this week. He's he's still gonna be in the flex discussion for me. But it's very tough match up against

the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, going back to last season, his team has just been very very stout against the run, very strong defensive line the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know, man. I still think there's a chance that Leonard Fournette gets shut down, Like we're gonna give him off by, You're gonna try and he's gonna try and start practicing after

that by. But I think if there's anything there that's still lingering, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on the I R. Some we're gonna have questions, you know what do I do with Carlos Hide? Should I drop him? Because we don't know what his value is gonna be. I can't drop Carlos Hide yet because if if for Net actually does land on the I R, then we're right back where we started with Carlos Hyde as an RB two for fantasy purposes. I don't I'd probably try and avoid starting him this week, but I

can't drop him yet. That fair. I think it's okay. I'm okay with that. Let me let me get to Zack in Houston. What's up, Zack, Zackie boy? Hey, what's up? Um? Let's see? Uh this guy you got chubbed? You want Chubb and Marwin for my and Roger and Aaron Jones? All right? So what would your quarterback? If you trade Rogers? I got my home. That's why I'm not going to use Roger. That's why you do this trade, all right?

You give away Aaron Rodgers, give away Aaron Jones. I mean honestly, even if you told me your next quarterback up was like Baker Mayfield, I'm probably still making this trade. Yeah, I I yeah, you have to be actually thinking about this great, No, I'm not, well, Yes I am. I am thinking about it. I wanted to get more. Mick Chubb is an RB two right now. Bog Baldwin is my opinion of high and wide receiver. Three. Aaron Jones what is he? He's barely a flex running back. He's nothing.

You don't need Aaron Rodgers. You have Patrick By coming up, stop saying you're making this trade and you're laughing all the way to the yeah press. Except um, so we'll see what happened the twin seven. But I got one more question. I got the same same question, um, Joan Reid, Um, well my it in. There's Evan Ingram, Yes, yes, him up? Him better than Jordan Read though they're kind of in the same boat, aren't they know? Evan was the first

game back. Man, he's good. Jordan, Jordan Reid's playing, not doing anything. Evan ingers more talented. If you have an Ingram, absolutely, he's probably more talented. But there's still like similar to Washington, there's a lot of mounts to feed in. But there's say Kwon, there's o B I understanding Shepherd will be involved. I'm telling me more targets this week for you have two receptions for sixteen yards? Great? Yeah, great, good thing

you had to carry there. I mean someone asked me this on Twitter today too, and I'm like, what's the difference between Jordan Read and Evan Ingram? Right now? There? It's a wash and you know has actually been better? No, I mean you're the same guy like I'm doing. They both have upside and hurt. Jordan Read is more likely to get targets with Washington than Evan Ingram is with the Giants. There just too many months. I'll keep Jordan Read. That's just me, alright. So we agree to disagree. Four

six seven nine. Jake and Dallas, you're up next. What's up, Jake? Are we going? Gentlemen? It's going very well. Let's happened now? A couple of questions. I know, um, Frank, I know how much you like slot receivers. But um is Sterling Shepherd and Dreke Cohen for Christian McCaffrey giving up way too much Shepherd and Cohen for McCaffrey. Um Sterling Shepherd a weekly wide receiver starter for you. No, he's actually on my bench. I have Michael Thomas, t Y Helen

and Edelman. And the thing is, I like what Terrik Cohen has done. Se four two, especially the past couple of weeks, like his usage is trading in the right direction. The Bears offense also trending in the right direction. It seems like a lot to give up for Christians, Austin Ekeler, Isaiah Croel, ados Man's some Latavius Murray on my He's got a lot of running back depth, so this is a classic. He's got good depth. He's turning his depth into the better player. Who could be the better player

rest of the season. I would make the trade to get Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, you give up Sheppard and Cohen to get Christian McCaffrey. I would do that. I would make that trade, all right? Cool? Yeah? Absolutely? Eight four four A four three six eight seven nine. Gave in poor Chester. You're up next. Hey, what's going on? Fellas? Not much? Man? Yeah? I got two little quick questions for you. The first one is who sud I start my running back? I got Alex Collins Ingram from New

Orleans and Marlon Mack Choose one. Choose one yet full PPR, full PPR. The Colts are facing the Raiders, ing the Vikings, the Ravens and Panthers. I'm using Marlon Mack. I haven't done Running back rankings yet, and I know I just went off about how I'm trying to trade Marlon Mack and he and he's been viewed as an RB two high end RB two right now this week in this match up against Oakland based on the way he's being used,

he is a hard high end RB two. I agree, But he's like the worst one of these guys, I think. But he also has the best matchup he does for sure. Ingram has to contend with Alvin Kamara in the Vikings. I think we get a lot of passing volume in that game. To me, it would be MC or Collins and all. Honestly, Ingram would be the one I would bench here and I like Collins, but he doesn't do a lot in the passing game. All Right, the full PVR makes go to Mac. What's your second question, buddy?

The second one is is a trade that got accepted in my lead? See what your good opinion is on that? The A two wins five team is getting yelled in and Gronkowski while our commissioner who's struggling at four and three is getting tomorrow. What do you guys think about that? Is that fair not fair one, the one that Canny Kamara is by far let's rather have and the fact that he is the commissioner, I mean maybe that brings

it into question. But what I would do if you're the two and five owner, I mean, it's hard to know what people are thinking, Like if he likes that trade, if he wants to get what he thinks is an elite tight end and grong and is looking at oh what has t J yelled and done so far this year instead of projecting forward? Then maybe they could talk themselves into thinking this is a fair trade. It's kind

of bogus. But unless your team, I mean, unless your league has vetos like and you can prove that there's some kind of uh, you know, foul play involved here, I don't know how you can veto it. Yeah, yeah, I don't think it. It doesn't seem like a foul play trade. It just seems like a bad room. It seems like two and five needs to go home and study, and uh, you don't get ready for next year? All right, And with that we say goodbye to you on YouTube. Make sure before you go you hit the leg button.

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think the Giants panking taking some trades. I think it's I think it's smart, right, I mean, try and get whatever you can for, you know, the talent that you have around you. The thing is like a couple of my Giants fans friends were asking me, you know, do you even do you bring up the possibility of trading Landing Colngs right, because I mean, it's just another guy at some point, I don't I don't think that they've paid land In Collins yet, have they Have they given

him like a big extension or anything. Greg, I know he's a free agent after this season. At some point you're gonna have to sign land In Collins. And if he's not part of the future plans, then maybe you try and dangle him out there. See, I mean he's one of the most talented, maybe the most talented player on that defense. Um, you might be able to get like a third round pick for landing college or something

like that. I know there's been some there's been some talk on Twitter about like, you know, turning Eli Apple and Damon Harrison into you know, round day three picks. I mean, it's like low probability, you're not necessarily going to hit on around four, around five, or round seven picks. But from a Johnet's perspective, it's all about gaining assets and try and get as many draft resources as you possibly can. And um, you know, you get Damon Harrison's

contract off the books too. So I think it makes sense. I think what they're doing makes sense. Great, Okay, so that's so. That's that's good. I don't like it, you know, I like it. It's just late. You just you came into this season thinking you had something when everybody knew he didn't. I mean, when else were they get You can't trade before the season because then you're telling your fan base that you already giving up he shouldn't trade

a fourth round pick away? Now trade you shouldn't go out and signed Jonathan or maybe they like Alex Ogiltree for the future, like being part of the team. He's not the future, he's not. So the team is just gonna continue to have bad linebackers until the end of time, I would assume. So, yeah, all right, yeah, that's probably true. Yeah.

The Jets are kind of the opposite right now, right like they the Giants always have pass rushers, right, the Jets never have pass rushers, like they always have good defensive lineman, they have good run stoppers. Leonard Williams does his thing, um, but you know, the Jets lineback and true is actually uh was actually playing pretty well this here, Avery Williamson and Darren Lee, who's all right, Darren Lee, who's stepped up? And you know, maybe there a trade

there in the future. Giants, probably not. You guys are good at drafting pass rushers. We are not. Probably not. This week, by the way, you had Adrian Peterson on the rundown the Giants that Damon Harrison love Adrian Peterson, and that's you know, that's gonna be great, and that's I think it's a really good point bringing up what the Giants are doing tanking right now. Is that not that we've feared their defense all that much, but I mean they were a competent defense. Now they're getting rid

of everybody. They're getting rid of Eli Apple. I mean apparently they're floating theirs out there to So if they're playing with you know, second and third string cornerbacks and defensive lineman and they're not stopping the run, this is going to be a team to target every single week, whether it's a DFS or season long as a defense that you know you want to start your offensive players against.

Absolutely um. You also wrote quickly with a minute remaining, Frank al Shan Jeffrey and t Y Hilton, you're selling both of them. Yeah, I'm not selling just for the sake of selling him. But he has performed like a top ten wide receiver in terms of points per games. So if anyone's buying into him being a wide receiver one or high end wide receiver two, that's something I would just store out there. Again, I'm not selling Jeffrey just for the sake of selling him. T Y Hilton,

he's been banged up. He is not catching a lot of passes down the field. He's been very touchdown dependent. Actually, uh so again, if someone's willing to give you wide receiver one value for t Y Hilton, it's something I would look into. Greg. We that the whole show. I didn't get to talk about my guy, MIKEL Crabtree in the stand of the Day, which he had at least eight targets in six strade games. He's had an incredibly safe double digits in PPR in every game but one.

If someone in your league just it's just like, all right, they're not starting micro Crabtreem. I think he's a very very reliable wide perceiver three. It's something I'm actually looking to do in some of my league's for Franks Snapville. My name is Greg Selsen. The Frenzy's up next. We'll do it all again tomorrow, we hope,