Week 8 Recap, Winners, Losers, EHHH

Forever Show. Start listening to us or suffer the consequences. Do do didnit? Yeah? Welcome your host Friday from Man by God Bro say Francis Frank standfall ladies and gentlemen your b and with that we want you inside of the studio thirty four. This is the BFF. He is Frank Stample, I am Greg Susman e y off to Ron on the Saunde Areva this week. So he is gone all week long, which means it's you, it's me, and it's us here this week on the BFF. Frankie,

what's happening, Bud Greggy? We got a lot going down already Week eight, nearly in the books. We have a monster matchup tonight between the Dolphins and the Pittsburgh Steers. We also got a lot of trades going down. Gregg says, to talk about lots talk about are you going to uh, we'll be watching the game to night, sure, of course, m you you won't be well. We have we have something. I have some batchors in the balance right with James Connor and Jujue. I'll be checking it out. We have

one in the balance. We have the do It's also the season finale of Halloween Baking Championship. Goodness, it's the season finale. First. There are things you just don't reveal on the air, Greg Bet, and that was one of them. It's I appreciate your transparency. I would appreciate if you tell me that off the air. We could talk about it, sure, and then break it down for you. Probably shouldn't have told everybody that listeners. I want everyone to know the truth.

I'll be watching football. I mean, as as ugly as it's gonna be. I don't know what to expect. Nixon and Bulls will be just as bus Yeah, not a great one, one, all right. Let me get into yesterday around the NFL, and let me begin in San Francisco, where the Four Nighters decimated the Carolina after yesterday, and this style of offense, well, not exactly exciting, not exactly game changing or a game breaking, but we said a lot in fantasy football, when you know what you're going

to get, makes the world a whole lot easier. The San Francisco four Niners, they run the football and play great defense. That's all they do. And now we know who those running backs are. It was Matt Brina and Tevin Coleman. And when one of those guys go down, as they did yesterday, it becomes all about one. And now it's Tevin Coleman. He scored four times yesterday. He looked fantastic against Carolina defense. Frank, that's been pretty good over the last month. They play on Thursday night. I

doubt Matt Brina plays. We'll see soon where he emotionally was talking about him in a moment. But Tevin Coleman certainly was a winner yesterday. Yeah, absolutely massive winner. Eleven carries a hundred and five yards, three rushing touchdowns average nine point five yards per carrie. And you said it right, Greig. The San Francisco forty Niners want to run the football. Entering Week eight, the highest rush percentage in the NFL,

and that's not going to change it. At thirty eight rushing attempts yesterday, why would it They just beat the Carolina Panthers fifty once a thirteen on the back or the legs rather of Tevin Coleman, of Matt Breda, of Raheem Mostard. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it work. They're just gonna continue to roll out with what has been working. And as also, as you mentioned Kyle Shanahan running backs, no matter where he goes, you want his

running backs for fantasy. You have been saying it for years. You've been at Carlos Hyde guy for years. And although Carlo Carlos Hyde is not playing with Kyle Shanahan, he's having a great years. That's a greggy guy. But ultimately Tevin Coleman has ascended into a high nd RB two. I really do believe that the way that this offensive line is playing right now, even without their tackles, they're

one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. And if Matt Breeda can't go on Thursday night because of the short week, he Mostard becomes one of the more interesting waiver wire pickups this week. Just he most is kind of sneaky weaver wire pickup right like he's not a starter. Everyone saw Tivin Coleman have those four touchdowns in this past week. I don't think most are cost you all that much on the waiver wire. And if you're desperate where four teams have a bye this week,

you're in a good spot of h Mooster. Yeah, and Raheemoster has been really explosive so far in his career. Greg his ninety five rushing attempts in the NFL, he's averaging over six yards per carries, so all of those have all of those carriers have basically come with Kyle Shanahan again does a great job of scheming his running backs to success. Raheem Mostart has been one of the

beneficiaries of that. And I think you know, if Matt Brina can't go on Thursday night, we just saw what Latavius Murray did against at Arizona Cardinals defense, where he put up over a hundred and fifty total yards. He had two total touchdowns, nine receptions. I have a feeling in San Francisco forty Niners are gonna be playing with the lead, which means that they're going to be running the football, So I'm right there with you. Is Matt

Brita the Anthony Davis of fantasy football? He leaves in the middle of every game, No, because he's not the number one over Yeah, I mean he's not. He's not one of the best players. But in terms of this situation, constantly leaving midgame and then coming back and playing the next week, and I'm still being good. Yeah, he's Davis. Euel Sanders got the end of yesterday for San Francisco, didn't do all that much other than that for Jimmy g and the offense didn't have to pass the ball

all that much. Immanuel Sanders played a lot. As Kyle Shanahan promise, what's his value going vard, I think it's still a wide receiver three. I said this on Friday or whenever the trade was made that I didn't really think that things changed ultimately for Emmanuel Sanders, Like he gets a step up in quarterback play with Garoppolo, But again, the forty Niners run the ball so much, are there

gonna be enough targets to go around? So yesterday they only had twenty two targets overall in this game, and he had five of those. So that's the twenty three percent target share, which is fine, but again it was only five targets, so I would label this one of the situations. I'm not gonna say that he's a winner just because he scored a touchdowner. He's not a loser. But they want to run the football and when they throw it, George Kittle is still going to be the

leader on this team in terms of targets. So I would say it's it's a pretty lateral move for Emmanuel Sanders again coming over from denvertson situation, There's is a lot about the a lot of Panthers team. Yeah, I'm sorry, a lot of alcol Cana Panthers. In a second, um, not they pettish your boy, Mark, He's Goodwin was a healthy stratch. Not they had is still had the fourth most snaps at wide receiver yesterday or this ports team once again, not great Bob, Not great Bob at all, Greg,

And thanks for bringing up my boy Dante Pettis. Every time that we can remind ourselves of being wrong for something, we might as well do it right. So that is coming into the season that has not worked out at all. I think he's a talented player, right like, there's no doubt about that. We saw what he did as a rookie, especially down the stretch last year. Just hasn't been able

to find his footing so far this year. Really weird starts of the preseason UH and training camp, and Kyle Shanahan was trying to kind of push the envelope with UH with Dante Pettison get the most out of him, but he has not responded well. Greg. Perhaps we talked about this on the other side as well. The Carolina Panthers. One of the winners here, somebody who didn't even play, Ham Newton, absolutely Cam Newton finally could be coming and yeah,

starting job. Sneak, Yeah, I won't cost you that much. Christian McCaffrey, you really good. Everybody else not so much. It was a little sneak peek of what's to come when we returned your winners, your losers, and the rest of the next I want to be the next Daily Fantasy Millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rodal dot com and dominate on fandel and DraftKings this season.

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had as we do. You were sitting here during the break going on owing our Fan Newel lineups in which I came in dead last, by the way, dead last, to be a great job, Gregg. Thanks man, Pretty sure I was not far ahead of you. You look that up of you like, yes, please do. But wasn't a great week you came into fifteen? Well, it was ahead of you, So that's that's a moral victory. If I've ever seen one. Twere points of me, man, you get

much more points. Yeah. Not the greatest Fan New Week for us, But shout out to everybody who participated and for those who won. We were not one of them. We were not. We weren't even close. We are You aren't get in the game, by the way, Yeah, it's van New will be abo contest we do with our friends and family each and every week. All you gotta do is request to come in. FRANKI let you in, and yeah, tweet at us at roto underscore Frank at gregg Susman, give us your fanuel, use your name and

we'll get you involved. You know, more people want to play. We can expand it, we can make it. You know, thirty people of concepts, whatever it might be. So hit us up, hit us up and follow us. Frankie was a lot of good insight, and I usually doesn't sell frank so it's pretty good. I guess right events who you ask? I think it's got. I enjoy it all right,

let's get into with Danny. Let's break it down the winners the losers in from week over nine week the BFFs presents winners I won, I won, Losers you suck. You are one pathetic loser and I have no idea what's going Winners losers and from a week number eight the biggest losers, well they're in Arizona and they're really the fantasy owners that own the Arizona Cardinal running Backs. Because things went from bad do a whole worse this morning.

David Johnson didn't play yesterday Chase Edmonds got her yesterday. The Cardinals play on Thursday night. The only running backs on the roster were Zack Zenner and Alfred Morris until now Frank. They traded for Kenyan Drake this morning. Kind of surprise everybody because we thought Kenyan Drake would land with the Detroit Lions. We knew that he would be traded, just didn't know where. And now is the Arizona Cardinals.

So I love to see what happens whether they place a David Johnson or a Chase Edmunds on I R. I mean, I would imagine that one or both of their injuries are really bad for them to go out and make this trade for Kenyan Drake. Obviously here this morning on it they jump in and it looks like Kenyan Drake is probably gonna have to play on the short week, I mean, not really knowing the playbook. Yeah, I guess it's just gonna be all right. We'll take the ball and run up the middle and try and

make the most out of it. And you know they'll they'll target him a few times as well, but they just need healthy bodies. Chase Edmund's leave yesterday with the hamstring injury. It seems like it's gonna be pretty severe. He's likely going to miss a couple of weeks. David Johnson still dealing with the ankle, still dealing with the back. And then when everybody's healthy, what do they do then? Kenyan Drake play wide receiver, David Johnson play a little

bit of wide receiver. I would imagine that one or both of these guys is probably going to land on I R. Gregg. I don't know why else they would have made this move. I assume we'll find that out later on today. Arizona of course out west, so they have their press conferences and conference calls a little bit later. I'm sure we'll get even more information there. Kennyan Drake's gonna play on Thursday night kind of like him. I mean, he's gonna be at least a low end RB two,

high end flex. I mean, I don't know that he's gonna play a full compliment of snaps. It's still his first game with the team, and it's on a short week, so you have to be realistic. And it's a bad matchup going up against San Francisco, so all those things kind of playing against each other. He's probably more of a flex player than anything else. Greig absolutely a flexi play here against San Francisco, the rest of the Cardinals team yesterday and in a brutal loss to New Orleans Saints.

What was all said and done? Larry Fitzgerald drops touchdown pass. Uh, Kyle Kyla Murray's worst game in a while. Um for a fantasy perspective, Christian Kirk great winner back, big winner, big winner yesterday. Um. Of course once again, once again, this team plays again on Thursday night football New Orleans Saints. On the other side, Drew Brees returned as a winner. Yeah. Absolutely,

he was awesome. I do want to start with Christian Kirk real quick his first game back, going up against it tougher New Orleans secondary where I don't know if he was shadowed by Marshawn Laddimer. Will have to pull that up and check it out, but ultimately still a tough secondary regardless. First game back. Leads a team in targets with eleven, leads the team and receptions with eight.

Larry Fitzgerald over his last two games one reception for twelve yards, no touchdown on three targets two receptions for eight yards, no touchdown, only four targets, So Larry Fitzgerald, I think we're getting into drop territory. He has been that bad recently, and I think with Christian kirk Back that obviously affects his targets share. Moving forward, Yeah, you mentioned Drew Brees first game back, forty three pass attempts with the thumb. They clearly we're not worried about it.

Looks like he's good to go. Three seventy three yards eight points seven yards per attempts, three passing touchdowns. Taysom Hill, Greg, I mean they keep finding ways to get this guy involved. I mean, in the Super Flakes League, probably should be owned. Three receptions, sixty three yards and a touch down. He's basically their pseudo tight end right now. Lottavias Murray massive, massive performance, twelve targets, nine receptions, fifty five yards and

a touchdown. Michael Thomas just does what Michael Thomas does. Greg, I want to throw this back your way between Lettavias Murray and Alvin Camara. Moving forward, I think we might have closer to the situation we thought coming into the season. Obviously, there was that low earlier on where Alvin Kamara was seeing all the work and the offense wasn't clicking as much under Teddy Bridgewater and Letsavius Murray was not involved.

But I think based on how well he's performed the past two weeks, I don't think that he just goes completely away after the bye week when Alvin Kamara is back, you know. So that is my first thought as well, like I'm not gonna I don't necessarily want to buy Alan Kamara yet because Let'savias Murray is going to have a much larger role, at more Ingram like role in this offense. And then I thought back to Kansas City.

I know everything's not related necessarily, but I think that's the Kansas City and Darryl Williams was awesome in the games that Damian Williams and Lashaw McCoy left early, and Daryl Williams in this monster monster role, and then when Damian Williams got healthy, Lashaw McCoy's ankle got healthy, Nary williamsn't play anymore because they wanted their better back on the field. Despite how good that Darryl Williams looked. I'm taking this New Orleans opportunities one where I don't want

to get fooled again. To me, I think Alman Camara, who now has an extra week off because of the bye, to get even healthier. He's going to be back in week ten, and I think you see truly Latavia's Murray go back to the role that he had of nothing. I think the Almancamara shaw. I think the biggest difference though between the Chiefs and the Saints is that it's three as opposed to too, right, so I think that too. But but even yesterday right like Damian Williams barely still

the feel until Shoa McCoy fumbled. But they have that luxury because they do have three running backs actually produce, so they can kind of pick and showing them are like Almn Kamara, No, absolutely, but I do think that based on what le Tavi s Murray has shown us again like he's not gonna get anywhere close to the work he's gotten the past two weeks once Kamara is back, but eight to twelve touches, eight to ten touches in the Saints offense behind that offensive line, I think that's

still likely going to be in play for a flex week in and week out. Alvin Kamara, you know how good he is you know, if people are worried about his injury, you go out and you could buy Alvin Kamara if you can. But ultimately, uh, would you be trying to trade Lettavias Murray too? Maybe an owner that's not paying his close attention. If you get like a wide receiver three in return or a a r B two that you can trust every single week, is that

something you would be doing? Absolutely absolutely trying to trade Letabas Murray away. Would you trading for Christian Kirk? Yes, but it's tough because they'll buy the week this week, right, It depends where you are in the standings. Crazy crazy traded my Lea just went down Kenny Galladay from mark Ingram right up. It seems pretty fair and I'd probably lean slightly with Kenny Golladay. I probably agree with that.

The team that acquired mark Ingram had just lost Chase Edmunds and David Johnson felt the need to go out and get a running back. Okay, since um spelling well, winners and losers, let me go to the in the City and Green Bay Sunday Night football from last night. Damie Williams after the Shawn McCoy fumble, he was a winner. He gobbled up all those snaps. He looked good on the field. Uh, Matt Moore did his job on the in this Kansas City offense, got Tyreek Hill the ball,

Travis Kelsey scores the touchdown right like it was. I think as good of a outing you could have hoped for from Matt more from a fantasy perspective, absolutely, And we said on Friday when we were pretty viewing the games that if you lost Patrick Mahomes and you played in a super flex league, that Matt Moore would be sufficient in two quarterback leagues. And that's exactly what he was six two d and sixty seven yards, two touchdown,

seven point four yards per attempt. He was fine. He got the ball in the hands of his best players. That's all I can ask out of a backup quarterback. Travis Kelsey had eight targets yesterday, scored a touchdown Tyreek Hill. While he did not have a massive game, he had nine targets and a pretty consistent one six receptions for seventy six yards. So in a PPR league, I think ultimately you feel pretty good about that. La Shawn McCoy after he fumbled, did not see another carry or argut

in that game yesterday for the Kansas City Chiefs. So just kind of jumbles this situation up again. Up until that point, before Sean McCoy fumbled, Damian Williams was nowhere to be found. I mean I saw people tweeting, you know, where's Damian Williams? Remember that guy, guy who was like a second third round pick this here in fantasy football. He was nowhere. But then once Sean McCoy fumbled, Damian

Williams was in there. This is not a good run blocking offensive line, so I really don't want to be involved with any of these guys. And there's three different running backs. So it's a very frustrating situation. But at least Matt Moore showed that he can keep Travis Kelsey Entiree Hill fantasy biable, Greg lasera report, Chase Emmons gonna miss a few weeks with a hamstring strain, David Johnson banged up, not expected to go on i R. So

we'll see because the Cardinals take a break. He's the green maside of things last night, and you around the NFL here, I want to be the next daily Fantasy millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rodal dot

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weekend as he is out with a neck injury. Drew Lock not ready to go, which means Brandon Allen we'll get the start for the never Broncos. Right. I really can't tell you much about Brandon Allen outside of the fact that he is a former sixth round pick out of the University of Arkansas. He was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars. So we'll see how Brandon Allen fares this week. But ultimately I'm gonna go on. I'm gonna go out there, Greg and I'm gonna say that Courtland Sutton loser and

the running back to the Denver Broncos losers. Although I guess it can't be much worse than what Joe Flacco is doing. Right, they were at least running the ball um somewhat successfully between Phil Lindsay and Royce Freeman. We saw Royce Freeman getting the end zone again, but Cortland Sutton was has been one of the most consistent wide receivers so far to the season, no offense. Finally coming off a game where he was targeted and had a lot of receptions, not a lot of yards, so maybe

this actually helps. I mean, Joe Flacco wasn't really doing much, so we'll we'll have to see. Maybe he'll hopefully the quarterback relies on the tight end. No A fan who had a nice day yesterday, and I want to get into Denver in a moment um, but I want to go back to Green Bay and go back to Sunday Night football where Aaron Jones Jamal Williams both getting dawn last night well winners. Absolutely, I mean specifically Aaron Jones. His usage in the past game eight targets, seven receptions,

a hundred and fifty nine yards, and two touchdowns. On that sixty seven yard touchdown, basically just went untouched and ran past everybody. It was good to see that he was dealing with. I believe it was a shoulder injury in the game. He left for a little bit, came back and still had this massive performance. Played more snaps

than Jamal Williams yesterday. Jamal Williams most weeks will be in play as a low end flex option, maybe a bi week replacement, but it's it's still very obvious that even with Aaron Jones dropping a touchdown a couple of weeks to go, and yes, Jamal Williams kind of supplanted him for that game, Aaron Jones is still the guy here and is performing very well. Greg. Absolutely, Aaron Jones. It's crazy, Frank, Like, you hit in this morning and I'm like, do you think God, we didn't trade Aaron Jones.

That's the reason we won yesterday. That's the reason why we seemingly win most weeks. It's yeah, that's why most uh, Aaron Jones owners were winners yesterday, Greg, because ultimately had a massive performance even with leaving the game yesterday, ended up playing sixty percent of the Packers snaps. So it's a good sign for Aaron Jones. He's a clue winner. Absolutely. Aaron Jones and jama Williams though also winner. These wide

receivers are game may none of them are winners. I mean, I know it was on Alon Lazard as a winner because he played the same amount of snaps mvs and Jona wa Allison, But it's really a crapsheet right now. Until Davante Adams goes back. I don't really want to

own any of them, and I've said that. I've said that the past couple of the way that they've been deploying these wide receivers and the way that they've been targeting is they just spread the ball around, and they've been using the running backs a lot more this year under the floor than Mike McCarthy ever has really throwing a lot of the running backs as well. So the wide receivers are basically the Packers wide receivers are uh into sent into obscurity right now, Greg, while there's no

Davanta Adams, hopefully he's back for week nine. I believe he's missed the past three weeks, so I think it should be enough time for him to return. Hopefully, Devanta Adams is good to go. If he's healthy, you get him in your lineup. Outside of him, can't trust any of these Packers receivers. Packers receivers have been a big, big letdown in fantasy. I remember remember back in the summer,

I drafted MVS and ger on him. Yeah, because it's a new offense, right, but everybody assumed that whoever emerged as the wide receiver too, was gonna have value because we saw basically throughout Aaron Rodgers career that he consistently produced another top thirty wide receiver, top twenty four in

that range. But it's a new offense under Matt la Floor, and he's really is using these running backs more in the passing game, and that has really taken away any opportunity for another wide receiver to step up outside of Davanta Adams. Of course, so that neck injury UM hurts Joe Flacco. Going back to Denver hurts Courtland Suton running backs Denver yesterday. Uh, they wound up losing uh in that in that contest, and as I said, you were

winning for most of it, they were. Joe Flacco not happy about kind of playing conservative right running the football, and he expressed that after the game the Antholis Colts came from behind. Jacobe Procette was al was sacked for his safety to at the end of the game, he was able to get the ball uh to t Y Hilton. Um. But the ragus and culture we want to say about

this winner's losers stand out nothing exciting. Well, Joe Flacco, first of all, you're an idiot because you threw the ball thirty two times and you average five point four yards per ten. Whose fault is that? Okay, maybe the play calling isn't great, but I mean you could take it upon yourself too audible to a different play. You can try and take shots down the field with Courtland Sutton and ultimately you average five point four yards per time.

So I I understand that you want the play calling to be more aggressive, but you know, take it upon yourself as well. You're a veteran quarterback. If you want audible play, go ahead and do it. I mean the running backs. The past two weeks, it's been hard situation to figure out Greig because earlier on in the year, Philip Lindsay was seeing a lot of the work inside

of the red zone. But the past two weeks now Royce Freeman has scored inside that area of the field, so it looks like there really is no rhyme or reason to what's going on. I still do like Philip Lindsay in that RB two kind of area low end RB two and Royce Freeman is a high end FLEXI player. They have similar value, but Philip Lindsay a little bit

more valuable because he is a more explosive player. Overall, we'll have to see, you know, what Brandon Allen can can do in terms of getting the ball in the hands of Quoteland Sutton and no a fan because again, like you said, just get if you're a backup quarterback, all we wanted to do is get the ball to those guys and kind of let them do what they do. Um. But yeah, no offense did have it an eight target game yesterday and hopefully, you know, a backup quarterback could

tend to lean on that tight end position. So No offense, we'll talk about him more tomorrow. Is the waiver wire pickup? Absolutely certainly somebody all along the waiver wire that you should consider picking up. Let's move on to Frank. I want to go over to London where jacksonvill. They played London this weekend. Cincinnati and l a go At went at it and as predicting the Rams dominated, Cooper Cup obviously does his thing. But there's a couple of things

I really wanted to note from this game. The first, of course, Brandon Cooks is concussion. We'll talk about Josh Reynolds on the program tomorrow. And I'm not somebody that even where I am in the standings that's going to trade for Brandon Cooks because I'm really concerned about this concussion his second over the year. To be very, very cautious when it comes to Brandon Cooks, but specifically on the rams side of the ball. I think you gotta

look at the running game where Todd Gurley scored. That's good, but he rushed for less yards than Darryl Henderson and I believe played less snaps than Darryl Henderson. He was seen getting his knee looked at or checked out on the sideline. I understand the bye week is coming, but Todd Gurley, Frank you know going to you. We had Florio here in studio. He was Mr Todd Gurley. I was kind of in between you guys. You were dead right where the upside his cap for Gurly and as

somebody that trapped him and training him away. I think my lucky stars about that because Todd Gurley is not even close to the player. He was a fantasy perspective, it's been a disaster and trying to use yesterday's performance considering he scored a touchdown and try and trade him now while you can't even if you have to pair him with somebody else. I understand he's going into the

buy it's gonna be harder to do. Didn't play as many snaps this today, but they were up big towards the end, and I think they just kind of started to hand it off to Darrell Henderson. But ultimately, look, this is a great matchup going up against the Cincinnati Bengals. They allow a ton of fantasy points to opposing running backs. They allow what is this four point nine one yards per carry to opposing running backs this year. That was fourth most heading into Week eight, and Todd Gurley has

the modest game that he did yesterday. I just don't think that it's going to happen for him. I think that he is still hampered by whatever was plaguing him in the off season the end of last season, this knee injury, the authritis and the knee. He was also dealing with a quad issue a couple of weeks ago.

Try and trade him now while you can see what you can get for him, because ultimately I don't feel great about him, and I would say the same thing on the other side here, Greg, we're Joe Mixon seventeen carries for sixty six yards three point nine yards per carry. Maybe after the bye week, the Bengals offensive line comes back, it's a little bit healthier. They get Cordy gunnback. That can't hurt Joe Mixon. But he was using the past game.

Yesterday he had four receptions, he had a receiving touchdown, and I think that you can kind of use yesterday's performance again like Girly, to try and sell him now, because ultimately, the Bengals offensive line is not a good one. Their offense is not a good one. And while Mixon had four targets yesterday, that's his season high, they have not been throwing the ball to Joe Mixon enough this year. And I would try to sell him based off of

yesterday's performance. I agree with you, Joe Mixon, Ti Girle too, running backs that you should try to sell after yesterday's performance. From the wide Receiver conversation, A J. Green says he expects me ready to go after the excuse me, after the bye will he still be the Bengal will find out trade deadline tomorrow. Obviously mentioned the Kenyan Drake trade. Leonard Williams also traded earlier today to the New York Giants. Let's speak about those New York Giants. Frank, New York Giants.

UH covered the spread against the Detroit Lions. That's good. They lost your Giants fan, that's bad. But Daniel Jones four touchdowns he spots started against Detroit. That worked out well. Golden Tate in the revenge game had a golden date day right eight for eight five also had a long one called back take on Barkley found the end zone. If you expect what if you and any yesterday's game from the giant side of things, really reliant side of things.

Also with Kenny Golladay, you got exactly what you expected. All those guys winners, one monsters loser in this game though his name, Ty Johnson. Yes, and all the fantasy owners out there that went out and spent a bunch of money in fab like this guy. We're huge losers all together. Let's let's celebrate together. But ultimately, yeah, this was a four headed backfield trade. Carson twelve carries thirty four yards, Thy Johnson seven carries. Paul Perkins revenge game

against the New York Giants had three carries. Jade mckissic had one carry. Jadi McKissick was using the past game, he had three targets. Apperts said that he was gonna use a running back by committee. He didn't lie, he actually told the truth. This was a four headed running back by committee behind an offensive line that cannot run block right now. So if you spent money, big money on Thy Johnson this week, you, my friend, are a loser, just like me. Tay Kwon Barkley, he's really good. He's

a winner from yesterday. That's probably fine. Daniel Jones. Massive performance here, Greg three twenty two yards, seven point nine yards per carry. The offensive line did a better job of protecting for him yesterday through four touchdowns. And you want to stream quarterbacks against the Detroit Lions right now. They have allowed eight passing touchdowns over their last two games. So if you have a quarterback on buy in Week nine, that's Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and or someone else that

I'm forgetting right now. But Derek carrs Jared Goff is the other one. Derek Carr in this matchup against Detroit next week is a great matchup and one that you can actually stream. Matt Stafford also very good. Who's the bounce back season coming, Greg, not most of us. Most of us we thought they were gonna run. They can't do That'll take a bread, will come back well. His many winners, losers and as we can coming up next.

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Jill Flacker's injury maybe severe enough and he goes on i R because Drew Lock's time. He's coming. Brandon Allen has never thrown it past in the regular season game. He will start this Sunday. There's a chance Drew Lock is activated off the I R as the backup, and of course we'll start UH sooner rather than later. Joe Flacco's injury, Greg, if you play, I don't. I don't know if it's an injury. Like the Broncos. They have Brandon Allen and in their second round pick is not healthy.

This is an injury, Frankie, is it or is it a reaction to him kind of calling out the team in that press conference? Your players call out their teams. We'll get to one in a moment. But to me, this is this is an injury for sure, as super flexile U stashing Drew lock right now? Oh man, So I think it depends on super flexingly looking nearly there are starting quarterbacks that are out there. You know, only match Hup was the only one available this week. But

you regret not having him, do I? You were like five yesterday only one touchdown, one interception. I don't know if that was better than Kyler Mury it probably was. Well, here you go. Sorry, Sorry didn't pick up match Shop Greg. Was mat Shop picked up in your super flue league? Yes, we didn't think he was. We don't have to look during the game yesterday to find out if he was. We didn't think he was, but he was. He still mat Shop picking up? Are luck? No you're not? Maybe

I will. We'll see, all right, find out all right? Let me let me move on to the team about a guy that always calls out he's coaching staff and the play calling whatnot. And that's Odell Beckham Jr. Who we keep pushing him down. You said yesterday last week, Frank, that maybe this is one of the situations where you gotta rid the name off the back of the jersey, and yet he faced Stepan Gilmore yesterday. Like, I understand that Odell Beckham has been very bad this year, especially

for where you had to draft Odell Beckham. And I was actually thinking about this yesterday, how he's definitely gonna be one of those guys where are you draft him next year and like the third round and be like I got a first round of talent in the third round, Like I know all that already, but this year it's not happening. I understand how good the New England defense is, but Odell Beckham every shot and opportunity has had except for one against the Jets, it's been a complete and

under disgrace and a disaster. Nick Chubb yesterday, So Ode Beckham loser. Nick Chubb probably goes in the category because he was awesome going for way over a hundred yards but had two bad fumbles, including one where was kind of marching in for a touchdown. That was frustrating. Baker Mayfield a loser on the season for this Cleveland Browns team. Jarvis Langery, well, obviously a loser. Nervis Landry has actually been fine and he had ten targets is today five

for sixty five against the New England Patriots. I think you'll take that out of Jarvis Landry, but Baker Mayfield definitely a huge loser on the season, a loser yesterday as well. I mean that interception that he threw, if you want to call it an interception, it's like a little like shovel pass. Why didn't you do it right into the defensive line. I mean, that was one of

the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. That's something that you would have saw from like the third string Cleveland Browns quarterback that was starting a couple of years ago. This is Baker Mayfield, who was their first overall pick last year, who was so supposed to be their franchise quarterback, making a mistake that bad that was really really tough to watch yesterday. I would agree with you on Nick Chubb.

I would put him in the category because he's still seeing a ton of volume and he ran for a hundred and thirty one yards. I mean that was the most for any running back against the Patriots defense so far this season. But he fumbled twice. And Kareem Hunt is looming. He will be eligible to return in week ten, so not next week yet, but in week ten. If you are a Knick Chubb owner, make sure you own

Kareem Hunt as well. And Odell Beckham, Greg, don't what if you don't mean you should still pick u Kareem Hunt if you can't? Oh? If you So you're saying, if you're a Nick Chubb owner, but you can't pick up Kareem Hunt anymore? Yeah, probably because I'm assuming that that's you. You might want to trade whoever is on the end of your bench to try and acquire Kareem Hunt. Right. Sure. You just said that you're never going to play NBS, and I agree with you. So it's something that I

would do. Is a Kareem Hunt owner going to take that? Probably not. I'd imagine that they've been stashing him for a while. Odell Beckham huge loser, as you mentioned, Greg, five for fifty two. It's guy has not scored a touchdown and since Week two, I was actually at that game in MetLife Stadium. Maybe he only scores when I'm at the game, but whatever it is, Odell Beckham isn't

a touchdown drought. He's got tough matchups coming up. Look at this upcoming schedule, Greg, He's at Denver next week, where if they don't trade away Chris Harris, he's one of the best lockdown corners in the league. The week after that facing treed Avious White and the Buffalo Bills. The week after that facing the Pittsburgh Steelers and their secondary has performed really well since they've acquired make of Fitzpatrick. Miami Dolphins in Week twelve, pretty good matchup. Week thirteen

the Pittsburgh Steelers again, tough matchup. So four out of the next five games, you are not going to feel great about starting Odell Beckham. They are not just force feeding him the ball like was the case in New York where he's getting a bunch of targets. He only had seven targets yesterday. He's a clear loser, Greg and everyone who drafted him right now you actually have to think about whether or not you're gonna start him moving forward, which is crazy because he was likely your first or

second round pick. Brutal, absolutely brutal Rodebecker Junior. And as Freight points out, he doesn't get better. That's the problem. And I know I have I've said a lot that, Hey, just because you're facing a good cornerback, well, he's a really good WDE receiver, so you should be able to

take advantage. Not this version of Odell Beckham Jr. Let me go to the other side with the New England Patriots and it was a very bad weather day, so you got kind of what you expected, right, You got James White and you got Julian Edelman, and that's what this offense is now. Philip doors Set hasn't done all that much. Mohammed'san you got worked in the offense a little bit, but his offense really revolves around James White

and Julian Edelman. Yeah. Edelman had a great game yesterday to eleven targets in the rain, a lot of short passes, eight receptions seventy eight yards and two touchdowns. Greg Sony Michelle, I want to talk about him and I'll put him in the category because I like the volume that I saw here. Twenty one carries. Again, did not run efficiently, only three point five yards per carry. The volume is

a good thing. Normally I would just say that you're a winner because you're running back and you saw twenty plus carry, but he didn't make the most of those carries. And secondly, with rex burkehead back, Tony Michell did not have a single target in this game. So each of the past three games with with rex burkhead sidelined, Sony Michelle had seen at least two targets in each of those games, and he was kind of getting worked into the past game a little bit. They were actually drawing

up place for him as a receiver. We saw last week against the Jets he dropped the ball that was thrown right into his chest. This week, Greg zero targets for Sony Michelle. With rex burkhead back in the mix, I put him in the category in need um. I totally agree Toniy Michelle. It has not been the year that I hope for as someone I was thinking is gonna break out and really really build off this playoff performance from last season hasn't happened. He's getting all the

red zone work, which is good. He's getting all this, but he had three touchdowns last week. He even coming into this week, greg Tony Michelle had the most carries inside the tent of any running back in the NFL. So we remember that Brandon Bolden stole a touchdown here and and you know Rex Burke had stole a touchdown here. But it's crazy that when you look at the numbers, he still is number one in the NFL in red in rushing attempts inside the ten yard line, and those

are very valuable obviously for fantasy football. Let's chat Frankie about some of the young running backs who are winners yesterday. And we we knew that when you drafted them back in August there could be league winners for you and go off to the second half of the year. I hope, we hope that. Hey, we wouldn't take eight weeks. I'm gonna go off. But you drafted them because you thought they could win you a league, and that maybe what David Montgomery winds up doing for you. The carries finally

went up for Dave Montgomery, and rightfully so. He was awesome yesterday, scoring his first touchdown of his season. Rushing the football yesterday. Trek Cohen not you know kind of the three Cohen thing. David Montgomery first onto the scene yesterday and the Chargers actually defeat of the Bears thanks to what guess what a miss kick David Montgomery huge winner from yesterday. The problem was he was on a lot of people's benches and I can't fault you for that.

The week before he only had two rushing attempts that haven't been able to run block all season long the Chicago Bears. David Montgomery comes out yesterday, play seventy of the snaps, which was a season high. He had season highs across the board, seven carries, a hundred and thirty five yards, one touchdown, five yards per carry. He was also used in the past game a ton here greg

five targets, four receptions, only twelve receiving yards. But you like to see that type of usage in the past game considering that Tarik Cohen only play of the snaps and he only saw three targets, So thirty one running back opportunities for David Montgomery yesterday just massive. You want to use running backs against the Los Angeles charters right now. Their entire defense is beat up, and I think this performance, Greig gives you confidence that David Montgomery goes back into

that RB two discussion. Uh, Missiles Robiski is not good. It's just it's obvious at this point. Um seven point two yards for attempt yesterday, thirty five, missing a ton of throws, zero touchdowns, one interception. At least last year he was running the football. He's not even doing that this year. He only had four rushing attempts yesterday for ten yards. And think Matt Naggie really started to figure out how bad Robinsky is and started to give David

Montgomery that must work. So I think we could trust Montgomery once again as a low one nervy two moving forward. Yeah, and to that point, miss Robinsky, they asked the question old Matt Neggie this morning. He's like, hey, is he still here starting quarterback? It's like, yeah, we saw enough good things where we think he could improve. Certainly not a huge declaration yet, Yeah, of course not. Yeah, he's

our starting quarterback. It was like sure, why not? Well, how would you feel if you had Missiel Robinsky as your quarterback? Greg? I mean they drafted him with a with the first round pick. That was before Matt Naggie was there. But much like we've kind of said about Wayne Haskins right and Washington moving forward, whoever was gonna come in and take over the Chicago Bears. Job knew that Mistell Drabinsky had to be the guy and they had to find a way to get the most out

of him. Now, Matt Naggie did figure that out last year. This year it's been a lot tougher. He really is showing a lot of his deficiencies as a passer as a quarterback in the NFL so far this season. Defenses are taking advantage of that as well. Um so, yeah, I mean it's hard to have confidence at Trabisky, but I think moving forward, whoever comes in for Washington next year is likely gonna have to do the same thing with Dwayne Hasky. What category would you put Melvin Gordon

and Austin Ekeler in from yesterday? I would put mm hmm, probably both in the act category. May even maybe Melvin Gordon is is more of a winner than then you want to lead on. But he still wasn't great. I mean, three point nine yards per carry. He saw eight rushing attempts, Austin Ekeler only saw three. Eckler had a receiving touchdown in this one, and I knew coming in that the Chicago Beart struggled to pass catching running backs. But again,

Eckler only had two receptions and three carries. He had five total touches. Melvin Gordon had eight carries and he had two receptions, so he had ten total touches, and neither one of them was really effective. They were not efficient. We know that this offensive line is really beat up. The entire Chargers team is beat up, so they're probably

just both in the act category. And Melvin Gordon a probably slight winner compared to Austin Ekeler, because it's clear at this point Greg, unless they trade him away before tomorrow, Melvin Gordon is their guy and they're sticking by him right As two more running backs, I want to make sure we hit that are young and that kind of fit the same. David Montgomery narrative was in Buffalo yesterday between the Bills and the Eagles, where Miles Sanders went

off before getting hurt. All indications are that he'll be all right, and Devin Singles are and it awesome run as he ran into the end zone as well. I don't think the Bills ever go away from Frank Gore. I think the eagle situation will always be muddled, but both guys look good. Yesterday, both were winners. Yeah, Singletary played sixties seven percent of the snaps yesterday, Frank Gore only played of those, and Frank Gore still used more in the run game, but once they fell behind, they

started to use Devin Singletary. Devin Singletary six targets yesterday, four receptions, thirty receiving yards, and a touchdown as well. So I think Devin Singletary is a winner. We're starting to see them have a little bit more faith in Devin Singletary, and I think that, you know, as the season goes along here, he's gonna probably see maybe the same amount of work as Frank Gore, or maybe even a little bit more. I remember a couple of weeks ago, I filled in for the closer Chris Ventcher on the

Fantasy Football Frenzy. We were all in agreement that Devin Singletary was a good bye low candidate. Miles Sanders Greg as much as I want to be excited about him, three carry seventy four yards, had that sixty five yard touchdown, showed off some of his speed and his explosiveness. He's being used in the past game. I saw Jim SNAs tweeting about this as well, that they're really targeting him downfield. His average depth of target is higher than that of

your your average running back. They are scheming plays for Miles Sanders to get him used as a receiver. The problem is he still only had six touches compared to twenty four for Jordan's Howards. So I don't think Jordan Howard's going anywhere. And he ran well, he does what they want him to do. They need someone that runs between the tackles, applotting running back that just holds onto the football that they can use inside the red zone. That's who Jordan Howard is. Just ran for another ninety

six yards and a touchdown. I don't think that he's going away. So I want to say that Miles Sanders is a winner, but I can't. He's in the act category for me, Greg a huge loser man. Over the past three weeks, he has nineteen targets and eight receptions. Dallas Goddard in the same span seventeen targets, twelve receptions and two touchdowns. He's really been eating into his accurates production.

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support and much more. Save ten percent on winning NBA DFS advice with promo code dunk. Visit Daily road dot com backslash dunk to learn more. So what did what did? Here's what you missed on the bf BPS. Kyle Shanahan running backs No matter where he goes, you want his running backs for fantasy for years, man, you have been saying it for years. You've been a Carlos Hyde guy for years. And although Carlo Carlos Hyde is not playing with Kyle Shanahan, he's having a great years. What was

I doing? That's a greggy guy. But ultimately Tevin Coleman has ascended into a high n r B two. I really do believe that the way that this offensive line is playing right now, even without their tackles, they're one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. And if Matt Breeda can't go on Thursday night because of the short week, he Mostart becomes one of the more interesting waiver wire pickups this week. Just he most is kind of sneaky weaver wire pickup right like, he's not a starter.

Everyone saw Timma Coleman have those four h towns in this past week. I don't think most are cost you all that much on the waiver wire. And if you're desperate where four teams have a bye this week, you're in a good spot where Mooster Yeah, and Raheemoster has been really explosive so far in his career. Greig his ninety five rushing attempts in the NFL, he's averaging over six yards per carries, so all of those have all

of those carries have basically come with Kyle Shanahan. Agan does a great job of scheming his running backs to success. Rahee Mostart has been one of the beneficiaries of that. And I think you know, if Matt Brida can't go on Thursday night. We just saw what Latavious Murray did against at Arizona Cardinals defense, where he put up over a hundred and fifty total yards. He had two total

touchdowns nine receptions. I have a feeling in San Francisco forty Niners are gonna be playing with the lead, which means that they're going to be running the football. So I'm right there with you. Is Matt Brida the Anthony Davis of fantasy football? He leaves in the middle of every game. No, because he's not the number one over Bill. Yeah, I mean he's not. He's not one of the best players.

But in terms of his situation, constantly leaving midgame and then coming back and playing the next week and I'm still being good. Yeah, he's Nanuel Sanders got the end of yesterday for San Francisco. Didn't do all that much other than that for Jimmy g and the offense didn't have to pass the ball all that much. Manuel Sanders it a lot. As Kyle Shanahan promised, what's his value, Gavard,

I think it's still a wide receiver three. I said this on Friday or whatever the trade was made that I didn't really think that things changed ultimately for Emmanuel Sanders, Like he gets a step up in quarterback play with Garoppolo. But again, the forty Niners run the ball so much, are there gonna be enough targets to go around. So yesterday they only had twenty two targets overall in this game,

and he had five of those. So that's the twenty three percent target share, which is fine, but again it was only five targets. So I would label this one of the situations. I'm not gonna say that he's a winner just because he scored a togginner. He's not a loser. But they want to run the football and when they throw it, George Kittle is still going to be the leader on this team in terms of targets. So I would say it's it's a pretty lateral move for Emmanuel Sanders. Again,

coming over from Denverson situation. There says a lot about the Carolina Panthers team. Yeah, I'm sorry, a lot of alt Cain pathers in a second, um not they pettish your boy, Mark, He's good. When was a healthy stretch? Not they've had is still had the fourth most snaps at wide receiver yesterday for this four Niners team once again. Now they'd not great Bob, not great Bob at all, Greg,

And thanks for it up, my boy, Dante Pettis. Every time that we can remind ourselves of being wrong for something, we might as well do it right. So coming into the season that has not worked out at all. I think it's a talented player, right like, there's no doubt about that. We saw what he did as a rookie, especially down the stretch last year. Just hasn't been able to find his footing so far this year.