Week 7 Recap, Winners, Losers, EHHHH

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I hope it's a happy Monday for you, because it wasn't the happiest of Fantasy Football Sundays for me as a as a David Johnson owner and as a Chargers Better the BFFs. We did it. We did it. We're on the board night. At least things worked out in one league. Greg, how about that? Actually with the two leagues that were released that we shared together, we have one. There you go the Yang You know that? So Mitch, Yeah, even with Patrick Mahomes getting hurt and get for not

training us Levi on belt. You know that smug guy did to us on Friday, what do he comes out to He was like, oh, man, I think I got a good shot this week. I'm like, dude, I Patrick Mahomes getting nothing and Travis Kelsey do nothing and you think you have a good shot this week? He's like, shrug, Well yeah, when you put it like that, I do have a good shot. Well thanks, Yang, tick a man while he's down. You know what, two men, you know what? You know what, that's fantasy karma. We kicked his gass

this week. That's fantasy karma. That's that's a real thing. Though. If you start celebrating early, you start trash talking people, things are just gonna start going sideways. Man, it is real. So fantasy karma is real. It's a fantasy karma. So this week the controversy in my league, and I wasn't really a part of a part of because you're the commissioner So in my league we do a waiver run

every day overnight. It goes every days Yahoo league, right, so as you know who tends to have these loopholes that we did, you exploit, right? So I realized early on in the season because I saw somebody do it that even for a player, that so for whatever reason, that our waivers don't run on a Friday. Rue's every day but Friday and Monday obviously, and and Tuesday. So I guess it's it's Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday those four days.

So I realized after Thursday night football with the Rams played that I put in the labor gerald Ever like, all right, tight end, and I got him on my team. Then the next day like on Saturday, it's weird. I'm not gonna tell anybody. I'll just take him correct all you did I do anything wrong in that regard? No should I have told. Nobody else noticed it. I'm not going to bring it up to people. So one so jet Van Jeff goes, how did you get Gerald Ever? Was?

I don't know, He's a Yahoo loophole. He's like, oh, that's interesting. No one says anything, no one does anything, all right, cool, So have you ever Lever actually traded him away lost anyway. It was a disaster. OK, sorry, no, we deal. So this past Thursday happens, Hatrick Mahomes gets hurt. He puts an acclaim on Friday for a Super Flex League. From that more it's a dollar gets him on Saturday. Uproar, uproar. But it wasn't you who picked him up. It was

somebody else. But of course, like, how can he do that in the super Flex League. It's probably people are paying a little bit more attention, So how can he do that? It's so slimy, And of course he's responses And then they looped you in. They roped you in, Greggy, Greg did it first? Greg noticed you tell anybody you guys are some? You don't tell us. That's rude, it's shady as af Like, how can you do that? Not tell the league? And of course Jeff fan Jeff's just

like I should have outed Gregg the first time. He should have. Fine, you should have some he should have didn't do anything illegal. I do appreciate that shady as a F two because that's redundant, like r b I s are done than also um bed at insight, So use for this weekend my league. But that's yahoo, man, Frank, So now, don't do anything wrong unless they figure it out. It's only cheating if you get caught, right. But it wasn't shading. It was a loophole technically, Well what to loophole? Right?

I mean, you know, bending the rules kind of seeing. You know, it's Bill Belichick knowing the rules. There you go. The difference is it's whistling from his bench. That's what's right. Bill Belichick's undefeated. Me. I can't buy a win because I suck. So this is your fantasy karma. So you get I didn't cheat, but I still suck. I'm sorry. Well, you know what, Greg, as David Johnson owner, I'm probably gonna lose as well. What are my chances of the

Patriots scoring two points or less tonight? The Patriots defense? Yes, very bad. Yeah it's not kids tonight. Yeah, we're gonna move to night football. A little bit later on in the show Patriots uh and Jets from met Lefty going, I'm not going. I was offered tickets by two different people. But get home late on Monday night and you know your Tuesday gets start off. You're all sluggish it's gonna take me a while to get home from the stadium. It's fine, I was just watching it from the comfort

of my couch. Jests are probably gonna get blown out anyway. Probably I'm gonna I might want to try to go to Giants Cowboys in two weeks on of the night. I don't know, I'm considering. I'm Daniel Jones keeps playing the way he is. Maybe you don't want to do that, you know, Man, I'm gonna say it's definitely. It's like on my right, it's it's my wedding week. It was. It was a cool week to start off the wedding eight, right, like like Giants Cowboys. See, that's basically kicking off November. Huh,

kicking off your birthday week, my birthday week. That's right, it's not your wedding week, it's my birthday. Well, you know, I'm not saying I'm pretty sure my birthday is more important than saying what more wedding. I'm just saying that my birthday week, your birthday week, coincides of my wedding week. All right, Well, will there be a birthday cake for me at your will be cake? Birthday cake cake can I just have one candle on my piece of cake.

Can we make that happen? Absolutely? You if you bring everybody, if you bring a coke, come on you piece of cake. You're gonna set it up for me. Man, no problem, you're not gonna have You're not gonna have your pants and have you birthday to me. That'd be great. I'm sure it wouldn't be you're not noticing. Have you a birthday to you? And that would be equally great. You can do that, you get my camp friends are gonna bother you with advice all night long, and you're like, listen,

you want advice? Sing for me? Damn it? All right? Good? And I'm hopefully I'm so intoxicated that I give them all the correct answers. Hopefull. You know, when I'm sober, I probably won't give them the wrong advice for them. Frank, something's gonna help you and your cheating team. Gregg. Sorry, we're all in touch with the loopholes in that league. I don't assume you're losing in every one of your

home That things good? Alright, three and four, it's good team, a good luck, Thanks, Funny, we'll take a break into David Johnson. We're gonna getting to his brother, carry on Johnson, and we're gonna hit HERB Smith Jr. Doesn't not a Johnson. We'll do it anyway. Come up here on the viffs sports grid dot Com Betting insights and entertainment at your fingertips as our team covers the most important topics in sports wagering, real time odds, predictive betting models, expert picks,

and more. Want the edge than get on the grid sports grid dot Com. Alright, Frankie, Week seven only has one more game left to go. It's tonight between the Jets and the Pats. We learned a lot yesterday, so let's chat about one we lost and sorry, all right, the face on anyway, It's okay. The winners and the losers and the You know that we can't exactly figure out coming out all this weekend, so let's begin in Arizona.

Let's presents winners, I won, Losers, you suck. You are one pathetical loser, and I have no idea what's going. Let's begame and live stadium. Yesterday Arizona took it to New York Giants, in particular Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray kind of yesterday for the most part, didn't have to do

too much, but it was all about Chase Edmunds. It was the Chase edmund Show for the Arizona Cardinals as he dominated David Johnson, played three snaps, came out of the game, and Chase Edmunds shows that, Hey, I could be a lead back in these league. We talked about the fan duel, hurry up, how much you may want to own Chase Edmonds going to phone. He talked about it over the last three weeks that this is a

handcuff that has to be owned. Now. The question that's on Nannie David Johnson owner's minds is now that is this gonna be a split? But Chase Edmonds is going to have a role when Johnson is healthy. How substantial can that be? I said this on the fandal hurry up as well, Greg. I think Chase Edmonds has definitely earned a role in this offense even when David Johnson is healthy, if when he is ever healthy, if that's

even a thing. But maybe similar to Jamal Williams's role with the Green Bay Packers, you know, playing thirty five percent of the snaps, getting some work in there. Maybe some work in the past game as well. Here's what I'll say about Chase Edmonds is that he ran really well yesterday. David Johnson hasn't been able to run the football effectively this year. He hasn't had more than ninety

rushing yards in a single game. Yesterday, Chase Edmonds had a hundred and twenty seven rushing yards on the season. Chase Edmonds is averaging over five yards per carry. David Johnson is averaging three point nine yards per carry, and it's behind the same offensive line, so you can't really make excuses. I think that there's a chance that once David Johns in his back and he's good to go, he is a really good pass catcher. They run four

wide receiver sets. Is it crazy that we can see David Johnson line up in the slot or on the outside in those four wide receiver sets, and Chase Edmonds is on the field in the backfield. I don't think that's crazy. I think that they're going to get creative with this. But I will say this, Greig. So far today, the Cardinals have announced that they're gonna work out j Ji and that they're gonna work out Spencer, where they

clearly need running back death. But what that tells me is that this David Johnson injury might actually be worse than they're leading on. You know, he's dealt with the back injury so far this year, surgically repaired risk. Now he's got the ankle. The guy has beat up, and they're working out running backs. As for yesterday, and I've seen people talking about this on Twitter today. They didn't

really have a choice but to have David Johnson active. Now, should they have told us in advance that, well, we're gonna see a lot of Chase Edmonds in this game. That would have been helpful for fantasy, would have been helpful maybe for you know, betting purposes as all for props. But if you think about it, why would the Cardinals tip their hand? I mean why would they give, you know, why would they reveal any competitive edge that they have?

Right if the Giants are prepping the entire week and expecting David Johnson, why would the Cardinals reveal that they're not going to use him, that he's only gonna play three snaps, and that Chase Edmonds was gonna play of the snaps and get twenty nine touches. It doesn't make sense.

The problem, Greg, the biggest problem that I have with everything from yesterday is that the Cardinals Twitter account, if you can throw the graphic up downstairs, please, the Twitter account had the audacity to tweet out afterwards this image. You should have started Chase Edmonds in fantasy. You don't have to do that, Arizona Cardinals, because that is a douche move. You don't have to do this, Greg, There's

no reason to do this. I mean, everyone already feels terrible that they had David Johnson in their lineup and Chase Edmonds on their bench. What's the point of this. Yeah, I'm sure millions of people are competing at you and say, well, you could have told us about David Johnson and Chase Edmonds. That's fine. We're all feeling terrible yesterday. As David Johnson owners. That was not necessary and this trolling, No, dude, well you know you loved it because you don't own David

Johnson any leagues, do you. I started him, Greg in a league where he gave me zero point to fantasy points. Chase Edmonds had thirties seven on my bench. Now my only chance of winning is the Patriots defense putting up two or less points. Asked that question, it's not gonna happen. Now, it's not gonna happen. I lost, But the biggest problem I had was the fact that they didn't have to tweet that out everything else. I kind of understand why they did it. Jason Edmondson is a winner. We'll see

what happens. Next week. They go and face the New Orleans Saints. They are big underdogs in that game. Looks like Drew Brees is gonna be back for that game. As of now, they're saying they're they're trying to get you. It doesn't make sense. They're eight and a half point favorites right now. They could be playing from behind. The Saints are good against the run. I don't expect David Johnson to play in that game personally as of now, because they're working out other running backs, so we should

we shall see. If Chase Edmonds is available, he should be added. He's probably the second priority at the running back position in terms of waiver ONSI in the logic of trying to use it's just that I believe the Saints of a buy in Week nine, like why not just give Breeze an extra two weeks here, like, you know what I mean? Realistically, they probably don't need him to beat the Cardinals either. Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy two gloves

playing pretty well right now. Bridgewater is gonna give himself the starting job because all he does is win and talking. I don't. I don't think they give him up. They give up a third round pick to get him. I still think that he's Drew Brees a successor. I don't think so be a fregent again, isn't he How many years does Drew Brees have left? You're telling me if the States win the Super Bowl this year, he doesn't just ride off into the sunset. I think that's a

realistic possibility. They give up a third round pick. I don't. I don't think that they're just gonna let him go. They give their choices. Hey, bridge Water free agent. Yeah, so he's a free agent. He was a free agent last year. They give their round pick, decided to resign him seven million dollars to be back up, All right, cool, I was worth it. I think that I think they pay him again. But here's the thing, He's proven he could win. So now Bridgewater could probably get a lot

of money from a team that he's desperate. Maybe this is one of the best systems to be in. So he just helped out his cause tremendous offensive and it was Is Teddy bridge Water really this good though? That's the question. So I agree with you, but all we can say is he continues to find ways and seven against the spread in his career, GREG five and oh

since he's taken over, and yesterday was no different. He went into Chicago and one against his Chicago Bears defense, Like that's an impressive Windwater is making himself money man looking for him. Impressive, impressive win without Alvin Kamara and without Drew Brees, Bridgewater did his job. Latavius Murray Man. Like we were trying to figure out where to rank him last week, I had him as a low and

RB two not high enough, clearly clearly not. He finishes the RB two on the week overall behind Jase Edmonds. And I know this defense is is very good or is a puposed to me? But that's not back to back weeks and they have allowed a lot of point fantasy points to their opposing running back and they've they've lost the chem Hicks who was there. He's a big stalwart in the middle of that defensive line who helps

against the run tremendously. Now, they still had him a couple of weeks ago when they faced Josh Jacobs in the Raiders. But you're right, there's now two games in a row where they give up over a hundred rushing yards two rushing touchdowns. Maybe the Bears defense, especially against the run, is not as good as it was. Absolutely, Who's who do they play this week? To the Chicago

Bears will be hosting? This is fun? The Los Angeles Chargers, Melvin Gordon and Austin I want to get into Austin Ekeler, Melbourn, Gordon in a little bit. I do that after the break, But let me just stick with this game for a moment. Uh. Did you pay attention to who the tight end was for New Orleans because Jared Cook didn't play a long out, it was Josh Hill once again. Josh Hill scores the

touched on against Chicago. If Jared Cook doesn't play again, Josh all very much hard streaming tight end this week against the Cardinals. You're gonna have to pay attention to Jarry Cook all week long. Josh Hill and potentially a potential streaming option on the other side of the the Chicago Bears. Something else that was dead wrong about this year. Alan Robinson, like Alan Robinson, has been awesome all year. He is the only weapon of this of the receiving corps for Chicago.

Tree Burton does nothing. Ethany Millard does nothing to like Gabriel does nothing like. It's all Alan Robinson at all times and as bad as unreliable as Mitchell Drabinsky is. Alan Robinson had like sixteen targets yesterday. He did. It was an unbelievable performance by arab and he is to me a reliable Loewen Rode receiver two at the moment. Yeah. And I said on Friday that I was hesitant in this matchup because he was going on Marshall Mattimore. Now

it was garbage time, which is fine. I mean garbage garbage time. Fantasy points counts is count as well. Allan Robinson is used to this. I mean he's played with Blake Portles, right, He's played now with Mitchell Robinsky. He's used to bad quarterback play. Sixteen targets actually a career high for him. Yesterday in that game ten receptions for eighty seven yards and a touchdown. He's has three touchdowns over his last two games. He's had at least seventy

seven seventy seven receiving yards in three street. He's had at least seven targets in every game this season. You're right, Greg, he is a mustart wide receiver too every single week, or as we would say, Alan Robinson, a winner. He is a winner Bears. The Bears running back David Montgomery specifically huge, huge, loser, unbelievable. Man. I told you about a trade I wanted to propose four Dave of Montgomery. You didn't do what nighted doing. Feel good with Austin Ekeler.

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I heard that vandal got rid of the drop her or lowest score. So it's probably a one year trial thing and see if it works out. And I liked it, probably got a lot of bad response. Didn't you like it? It was fine, It was fun. I mean it allowed you to, you know, put that punt player in your You gotta you gotta hit on everyone else. So are you going to be playing the DFS a little bit

more cognizant of tomorrow or when's day? Yeah? For sure, Yeah, Yeah, I'm I'm you know, I'm a big basketball guy, Grady, So I'm excited for the seasons. It would have been awesome if Zion was going to play. I mean, that's unfortunate obviously for the NBA and for the Pelicans, but I know not. We'll get more brandon Ingram tomorrow. I'm not supposed to do this. They have my basketball draft last night. I couldn't figure out what to do about Zion, like I did. I got in on the bidding and

in the auction. How much did he go for? That was what I was about to ask you. How much of the Zion should have gone? I don't like, how how much did Pascal for her? I'm pulling I'm pulling up the because I don't do fantasy basketball auctions, so I don't really know very similar to the NFL there, or at least my auction was so sam whatever forty three.

I will say that Zion went for thirty four thirty nine. Okay, So in between what I said and so yeah, I mean that probably still makes some what a late third early fourth round pick in terms of his dollar amount. That's a lot of money. Though for someone who might miss you know they're going to be cautious with him, so over pick. I was in on Zion until pretty late, and I was like why don't. I don't do this, Gred, don't get in on the injured guys. Don't be stupid.

You you know we had injury. Optimis that guy David Johnson Green? I didn't, Dude, he might not. I'm telling you, you're not gonna play another game with the Bengals. Why would he play a game with him at this point? It makes no sense. Let's get back to yesterday, Greg, Let's get right back into it. And I mentioned the Chargers and um by the way before I continue. Don't get back into this, but sure you follow us here on YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching

on zoom cha. I don't have a nine team wherever you're watching because I don't YouTube. We like to talk on our chat. You can live interaction with us, So get on YouTube and also check us out on Instagram at Sportscrid TV. That's where you can find everything that we do at Sportscred Team babe, all right, Frankie, yesterday, the Los Angeles Chargers, Fellow, the Tennessee Titans, and Ryan Tannehill. We're gonna get into Tannehill and all these Titans weapons

in just a moment. But I wanted to start with the Chargers because a clear loser of yesterday, there's Melvin Gordon. Because Melvin about every single way post, every faster of the game, right Like, he's a worse at receiving the football. He's never been good at yards per carry. And you saw that yesterday. We were just like, looks like he's plotting. He lost the game for his team by fumbling at

the goal line. Meanwhile, Austin Ekeler had a few receptions in the first half, he had like three, like three for forty or four for four years. Let along those lines. In the second half, he's running more routes. He got like a forty yard touchdown on a double move. He almost had a second touchdown down the middle. It would have won the game for the Chargers. Ekeler, every time he's on the field looks like a winner. He looks better than Melvin Gordon. Yet there's Anthony Lynn constantly giving

Melvin Gordon an opportunity after opportunity to be successful. Gordon through the game away for the Chargers. You had said to me, I believe it's a week ago. Might have been to where at what point did the Chargers just say screw this. Eckler is a better player. Ecklers are long term. Guy. Let me get him on the field and let me use him more. And I said, it's

not gonna happen. They're gonna run Melvin Gordon into the ground. Well, I've kind of come around in your way of thinking, because I still think like over the last two weeks, I've been right there trying to run Melvin Gordon into the ground and trying to use him and all facts stuff game. But every time we look, Austin Ekeler is simply the better player. Yesterday, they would have left Ekeler in the game, they probably win that football game. Melon

Gordon a loser, Austin Ekeler winner. How do you see this shaping up going forward? That's what fantasy owners needs to know. Yeah, I do think that we could be getting closer to that Melvin Gordon we know is going to be a free agent in the off season. Are the Chargers going to bring him back? I'm not so sure.

And they were performing better without him earlier on in the season, Gregg the first four games they were two and two, averaging two point five points per game, and with Melvin Gordon since he's been back there, oh in three and they're averaging sixteen points seven points per game on offense. I mean, it's just obvious at this point that Austin Ekeler makes them a better team. He's more dynamic as well. I mean, Melvin Gordon looks a lot like you know, Peyton Barber right now. He's just running

into the back of his offensive line. An offensive line, by the way, which is not good. It might not all be on Melvin Gordon, but there are twenty one in run blocking right now according to football outsiders. There's just they hn't run between the tackles. There's nowhere from Melvin Gordon to run. He's not somebody who can really break it to the outside and break off these long runs. He's he's always been the grinder, the guy who wears defenses down. And he's good inside the red zone. He's

good at scoring touchdowns. Well, yesterday he wasn't. He had two opportunities inside the one yard line, and I bet on the Chargers money line greg And honestly, as soon as they ruled the first one a touchdown and then overruled it, I said, I turned to my friend, I said, something bad's about to happen. This is Los Angeles Charger football. That he's either gonna fumble or Philip Rivers is gonna throw an interception. Mind you, very next play he fumbles

the ball, it would just seem like a guarantee. I mean, this is Chargers football for as long as we can remember. But yesterday Eckler thirty seven snaps, Melvin Gordon thirty three, uh nineteen opportunities for Melvin Gordon, there was thirteen yesterday for Austin Ekeler. He had eight targets, he had that receiving touchdown. I think that this team, while you don't want to be one dimensional, I think that they should just use the short passing game to their running backs

as an extension of the run game. I mean, we see we saw the Detroit Lions do that for years because they couldn't run the football. I think the Chargers should go down a similar route. Their offensive line is just not good enough right now, and if that's the route that they want to go to go down, Austin Ekeler fits that better. So as of right now, if I were just ranking these guys, who would I'd rather own?

I think Austin Ekeler is the more dynamic talent. Definitely in PPR, he's gonna get more targets, he's gonna have more receptions. Um, they can't run block right now, Greg, And if you're a Melvin Gordon owner, you feel really bad about him. I think he's more of a high end flex, high end RB three right now than the low n RB one. The high end RB two that you were drafting him to be just doesn't look good right now for Melvin Gordon. So I'm trying to figure

out the value of both of those guys. As I said going to break, I had offered almost like three weeks in a row Austin Ekeler straight up for David Montgomery. I don't want to do that anymore. I wouldn't do it now. Yeah, I can't do that anymore. But if you're an Austin Ekeler owner of aending in the position that you're in I was, he's my own position. I'm three and four in this league, you just hold onto him. What are you trading? Well? What are you gonna get

him for? That's what you have to ask yourself. It's crazy because previously offered over Miles Sanders too I don't want to do that. No, I mean that's not gonna help you either, or at least he's getting targets right now, I mean eight targets history that was tied for a second on the team with Hunter. Henry has seven receptions and eighteen yards. It means the way that they utilized him yesterday is how they should utilize him every game.

I mean, he burnt a linebacker. No linebacker is gonna be able to guard Austin Ekeler, especially you know, on wheel routes, on you know, quick slants. They're not gonna be able to guard him. He's just too quick. So I think that that's gonna be his role. I think in PPR leagues he is a low and RB two he's he's a high end flex option and that's fine. You just have to realize what his value is. He's not the running back that he was early on in the season. He's not going to have that level of value.

But that doesn't mean that he doesn't have value. So if you can flip him for a wide receiver three, if you need wide receiver helps something like that, that might make sense. But if you need a flex I think he's fine. Trade for Allen Robinson. I do that, sure. I don't you get it though? Yeah? Probably not all right? Um, would you trade, thinking out loud, would you trade Austin Ekeler and MVS for Robinson? Yeah? I do that for sure, would do that as well. Let me get to MBS

here in a moment. Now on the other side, in this game, in the Chargers Titans game, Titans were successful and as the new quarterback of course, Ryan Tannehill the starter yesterday and the open up the ovens right through for over three hundred yards. A. J. Brown, Cold Beasley, Um, Corey Davis all very much involved. Derrick Henry also found the end zone. It seems like the ovens came alive a little bit yesterday. But Frank, the question that fantasy owners want to know is what is real and what

was a mirage? We've seen glimpses A. J. Brown and Corey Davis before we know I think called Beasley again, Jesus Adam Humphreeze was came alive in this game too. Um, what was real and what should fantasy owners not believe coming out of yesterday? Well, first of all, I think that Ryan Tannehill is better for this team right now than Marcus Marriott. I think he showed that yesterday thirty nine three twelve yards, ten point eight yards per tamp,

two touchdowns, that's a pretty damn good game. He's gonna turn the ball over at times. He did have one interception, but overall, you know, going up against look, the Chargers are not a great defense. They're beat up as well, but they're supposed to have a good corner in Casey Hayward and Corey Davis still had a great game. He had six receptions, eight yards and a touchdown. And I feel really good about both Corey Davis and A J. Brown heading into next week because they faced the Tampa

Bay Bucks. The Tampa Bay Bucks have allowed five receiving touchdowns to wide receivers over their last three games. So even if it's just for the short term, I don't see how this can hurt their value. I think that this actually helps their value a lot. We'll talk about this morning the Waiver Wire show tomorrow, but if Corey Davis and A J. Brown are available, I am very bullish on these guys that each had seven targets yesterday.

In fact, A J. Brown had eight targets, and I think that they can make the most of that going up against that Bucks secondary. So I am I'm buying in. I'm buying in on the Titans wide receivers with with Tannehill as the quarterback, because at the least he can get the ball in their hands. Marcus Mariotta was not able to do that. Greg and dare Rick Henry yesterday another twenty two carries had at least He's had at least fifteen carries in every game so far this season,

ninety rushing yards a touchdown as well. How about this, Greg, The seven touchdowns that he scored before that one yesterday all came from the one yard crazy he this was the first touchdown that he's had in his last eight that came from one, not from the one. He was an eleven yard touchdowns, So, I mean they used him in that regard. You know, whenever they get down to the goal line, they used Derrick Henry. But that was

nice to see as well. I mean, he is a legitimate high end r B two regardless of how their offensive line is playing, regardless of who the quarterback is, because they want to run the football and you know the volume is gonna be there with Derrick Henry. Absolutely, Derrick Henry is as reliables they come, you kind of know what they are. We'll see what Ryan Tannehill can do. The Chargers have an underwhelming and ever he says of the word this season, we'll see how real the Titans are.

Was was the this chair has hurt in my back. It was nothing that you're saying, Greg, Just sit up all right. I mentioned MB yes before Green Day was led by Aaron rodd Yester. You had six total touchdowns, five through the air, one on the ground. He was unbelievable. MBS and Toronto Alison both played. MBS has a big game right too, long catches including a touchdown reception. Just embarrassing defense by the Raiders. You can't even call it defense whatever it was. I mean they were on the field,

but base defense was all that good either. No, they weren't. But I mean on that touchdown to MVS, I mean he took a short pass and just ran down the sideline untouched. Nobody was even near me at seventy four yard touchdown. Big plays for for Marquez Valden Scantling, huge game for Aaron Rodgers, but ultimately only three targets for MVS. So we'll talk about this a little bit more when we come back. Greg, but targets chair. For me, this wasn't a great one for MVS. Absolutely right. We take

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Like I mentioned Green Bay, MBS, let's hard get share what Aaron Rodgers did yesterday in decimating the Oakland Raiders of pathetic performance by them, by their defense in particular, how do you see this green Bay offense shaking out? The problem yesterday for MBS was that he had three targets and there was two, four or six eight players that had between two and five targets yesterday for the

Green Bay Packers. I just think in games that Davanta Adams is not around, they're gonna spread the ball around. There's not gonna be just one guy that locks in now when there are games in a good matchup where Aaron Rodgers could get going clearly like he did yesterday against this Oakland Raiders secondary a terrible one. Fire up your Houston Texans next week, because that's who's facing this

Oakland Raiders secondary. Kenny still is very good at But when they're in good matchups, I think that you can trust these guys, Greg, but on a weekly basis, just you know, in a neutral or tougher matchup, can you trust m vs getting you know, three to five targets? Can you trust Toronomo Allison? The answer for me, more often than not is going to be no, because I think that they're going to spread the ball out again.

Uh and hopefully Davantae Adams can get healthy. But I think after they see a game like this, they're not gonna rush him back because they're performing. They're still winning games. There's six and one, so they're gonna get Davanta Adams as much time as they possibly can. In good matchups, you can use these guys, Greg, but in neutral or tougher ones, I'm probably staying away. I tend to agree

it's just simply not worth it to get involved. Oakland also just spread the ball around quite a bit yesterday, Darren Waller except for one guy. Yeah, that's exactly right. Eight targets out of thirty one. I mean that's a massive target share. Huge game. Didn't have a touchdown. Entering that game, we saw Foster Morea score another touchdown, and at the time we're saying, really, Darren Waller can't get in the end zone. He was tackled at the one

yard line. Still ends up with two touchdowns. Someone asking the chat, what do I do if I have Waller or Evan Engram moving forward? You gotta ride with Darren Waller based on his usage, based on his targets. Daniel Jones not playing great right now, great matchup for Evan Ingram yesterday, didn't take advantage of it either. You gotta go with Waller over Evan Ingram right now. It's funny he's gonna league that we're together. Frank and I own both Darren Waller, uh and we own Travis Kelsey. And

he was trying to trade one. I was like, why are you training our best players? Yeah? And we we start multiple flex options soon. Look, if we're not gonna get fair value, just continue to start them. Both. Our benched pretty good yesterday. Luckily we ended up winning, because if we didn't win and that bench went off, I don't think we would have the same exuberance enthusiasm you mengined.

Kenny Stills. He's been on our team a couple of times this year, and hopefully he will be again, because Kenny still stepped up yesterday as Will Fuller left this game with a hamstring injury. We say it every year at some point Will Filler is gonna get hurt. Well, we've reached the part of the season where he does. Will Fuller and the years Texans wound up losing in Indianapolis yesterday to Zach Pascal and the Indianapolis Colts. Kenny Stills,

we'll talk about him a lot. I'm sure tomorrow one that's out wide receiver adds off the waiver wire here. But Zach Pascal is also probably one of them. Yeah. I do prefer Kenny Stills over Zach Pascal personally, and I will tell you why right now. Will Fuller has been ruled out for the next couple of weeks and the Houston Texans again going up against the Oakland Raiders next week. We know that the DeShawn that de Shaun

Watson and the Houston Texans they like to take deep shots. Yes, they can do that with DeAndre Hopkins, but Kenny Still is also a very good deep throat wide receiver. Had four for one oh five yesterday on five targets, so I gotta like him in that matchup against the Oakland Raiders. He's gonna be high end wide receiver three for me. Greg, I like Zack Pascal. It's gonna be a solid spot against the Denver Broncos. I know that, you know, you

look at the fantasy points against for wide receivers. The Broncos are actually really good. But the way to attack them is to attack their secondary corner. We know that Chris Harris is going to be on t Y Hilton next week, so Zach Pascal might have some value going up against the Denver Broncos. But again I looked at the snatch and looked at the routes. They're still really spreading it out. You know, Dion Kane basically played the same amount out as Zach Pascal yesterday wasn't targeted a

single time. But Zach Pascal, Greg, this is now three out of four games He's had at least seventy two yards or a touchdown. So he does have a rapport with Jacoby Brissette. I like him as a waiver wire ad, but not as much as I like Kenny Stills. Yeah, I totally agree with that. Pascal is one of many, and yesterday he had a really good game, no doubt about it. But Kenny Stills, I think has his role in this offense. We know what John Watson could do

with the deep ball. I trust him for more consistency going forward. How about Jacoby Brissette too. Yesterday I mean over three hundred yards four passing touchdowns. You can't say enough about the job that Jacoby Brissett and Frank Reich have done this year. I mean, weeks before the season started, Andrew Look, their franchise quarterback, retires from football and Jacobe rist two steps in here, completing nearly sixty seven percent of his passes almost fourteen hundred passing are so far,

fourteen touchdowns and three interceptions. You can't say enough about the job both he and Frank Reich have done. Greg absolutely man they have. They now take over sole possession of first place in the a f C South because they played one less game, but they are in first place. It does count. It counts. Okay, Um, we mentioned when the top waiver wire ads, I mean that brings me

into Detroit. Who felt to Minnesota yesterday? I actually really like to trade in that games, especially that they lost, but it was bigger loss for them because the potentially lost cary On Johnson. We don't still know the status of his injury, right, we haven't heard from that, Patricia. I have not seen anything so far on carry On Johnson. Okay,

so we haven't heard anything of carry On Johnson. But another Johnson stepped up in his place, and that was former Maryland terrapin Ti Johnson, who people were excited about coming into the year and he hasn't done all that much yesterday. Well he's gonna do all that much, but he got the majority of the carries at the goal line on the early downs. He was around. He know this Detroit team wants to run the football. Was the only injury yesterday in this game. Adam Feeling also heard

himself here the Vikings. They wind up playing on thursdaynight football against the Redskins. Let's talk about who we could potentially replace Adam filand with and just how badly you may want TI Johnson. Yes, we'll start off with the Minnesota Vikings side of things. This is huge news for Stefen days. I think he's a big winner from yesterday, saw eight targets, seven catches for a hundred and forty two yards. I'm jumping out of my my seat screaming

and yelling when he catches that deep pass. I wanted him to get inside the end zone. Just didn't have enough gas and falls at the two or three yard line. But ultimately without Adam feeling on the short week going up against Washington, it's a good match up to Washington secondary not a good one. I think Stefon dig should be able to eat in that matchup. But outside of him,

B C. Johnson, pay attention to the name. If you're desperate, you know by weeks we do have two teams on by heading into week eight, we have the Cowboys and we have the Baltimore Ravens. B C. Johnson had eight targets yesterday, actually tie Stefan Digs for the team lead. He had four catches for forty yards and a touchdown. So he's gonna be on the field a lot he's gonna be you know, in two wide receiver sets. He's

gonna be out there with Stefon Diggs. But if you need a tight end, I do think that Kyle Rolf and Earth Smith are also in play. Both of these guys had at least six targets yesterday. If Smith five catches for sixty yards, Kyle Rudolf five for fifty eight and a touchdown. Neither one of them have really done much so far this season because the Vikings pass attack can only support so many people. They don't throw the ball much and when they do, it goes to mainly

Adam Feeling, Stefon Diggs, and Dalvin Cook. So the tight ends haven't done much. But if Adam DeLand is out, I think that Kyle Rudolph and Irv Smith, more so Kyle Rudolph because he still does play more snaps and he runs more routes, could be streaming options heading into Thursday night football against Washington. On the other side, Greg you mentioned Ty Johnson yesterday. He played forty nine of seventy six snaps sixty four percent. He had fourteen touches.

He had fifty seven total yards. Two of those touches came inside the ten yard line. J. D. McKissick saw seven touches, zero of those came inside of the ten yard line. I think that they really liked this kid Ti Johnson four point four five forty eighty six percentile in speed score coming out of the University of Maryland, greg and they liked him enough to cut C. J. Anderson. Carry On Johnson dealt with a knee injury last year

which limited him to games. So going up against the Giants in Week eight, a team that just allowed a hundred and fifty total yards and three touchdowns to Chase Edmonds, Ty Johnson is going to be the top waiver wire ad for me personally this week. He's in a really good spot going up against his Giants defense. Greig, we don't have news on carry On, but my early diagnosis would be I don't think carry On Johnson plays in that game. We haven't really We really have no idea obviously, UM,

but we'll see a boy carry On Johnson. Adam feeling it does the report as you said, came out not gonna play this Thursday. He'll be find long term. Um. Another Chargers injury is just came out. I rapp report guard Forrest Lamp broke his ankle. It's none of the year. Another bad news from Melvin Gordon, which means Austeckler in space. Their offensive line has just been so beat up, Greg, I mean every everybody on the Charges, right, They suffered

so many injuries every year. Russell Lacom was supposed to make his debut yesterday, was supposed to return from injury and it didn't happen. And now they lose Lamp too. It's tough man, tough for the Chargers, very very tough spot for the Chargers who just consistently wind up being injured. Let me continue on, Frank, I want get to the Rams who one in Atlanta? But Jared Goff, this wide receiver,

these wide receivers kind of a head game. Like I know, Jared Goff put up the numbers alternately, and the wide receivers were okay, But you used say that a monster's break out, a monstros win for them against a bad Atlanta team. Only winner I took from this game, Gerald Everett. Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I think it's all around for this Los Angeles Rams offense outside of Gerald Everett,

Jared Goff twenty two of thirty seven. Really against the Atlanta Falcons defense without Desmond true Font, It's just crazy. Seven point two yards per tempt. He did throw two touchdowns. He had a rushing touchdown which really helped his day as well. But again, this completion percentage for Jared Goff yesterday just doesn't impress me. Todd Gurley returns eighteen carries for forty one yards two point three yards per carry. I understand. The offensive line another one that you know

hasn't been great so far this year. That seems to be a theme out there in Los Angeles, San Diego, whatever you wanna call it. But Todd Gurley not They're They're different cities, No, I understand in but like you, basically the San Diego I mean, did they even play in Los Angeles? And mean, is that is that even a thing? I don't know? Playing Carson right, I don't know, whatever,

whatever it is. The offensive lines on the West Coast haven't been great, but the wide receivers again, I mean these basically all this production happened in the first half yesterday. Robert Woods five for eighty That's fine. We were expecting a bigger game. Brandon cooks for Cooper cups six for fifty. I mean a lot of people have him as a top five wide receiver, look to be a good DFS play as well. I mean, it's just there's still something

wrong with this team. Greg. They scored thirties seven points, but I don't feel great about it. Like Jared Golf is gonna be a stream going up against the Bengals this week they travel back home. He's supposed to be better at home. But ultimately, I'm with you. I think this is an situation all around. Gerald Leverett ten targets very good. You'd like to see that four catches for fifty yards in a touchdown. He has really taken over that role as he passed catching tight end for this team.

He was the tight end that Sean McVeigh drafted when he first came over to the Los Angeles Brands and took over. And I remember we were all excited about Gerald Everett his rookie year, Greig, because Sean McVeigh came from Washington, where they used the tight end a lot, they used Jordan Read a lot, and it's finally coming to fruition. I think this is what they envisioned for

Gerald Everett, but his targets being up this year. The way they have Greg It is really eaten into the production of Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks and to a lesser extent, Cooper Cup. But Cooper Cup has been amazing. Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks have not. They have not given us what we were expecting coming into the season. No, it's been disappointing from these Rams wide receivers. We all had ranked in a similar spot was Cooper Cup has been reliable,

Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks simply not so much. On the other side, Matt Ryan left this game with an ankle injury. Duvante Freeman got thrown out of this game. He's been a dumpster fire for the Lata. Alcon's just a mess. I don't understand. Maybe it's because they didn't they don't have someone that they want to turn it over to that they just kind of want to let Dan Quinn see out the rest of his days in Atlanta. But I thought that he should have been fired. I mean,

how do you score ten points yesterday? I understand the Rams got Jalen Ramsey and their defense was amped up for this one, but I mean in a game that had a fifty five. Totally you only managed to put up ten points. I mean, it was just a horrendous showing all around for the for the Atlanta Falcons. DeVante Freeman ejected as well, we have to make sure Matt Ryan is good to go, because if he's not, you're

gonna have Matt shop throwing passes. Last time, we told this guy playing consistently he was a pick six machine and that has major implications on fantasy because Julio Jones first round pick. I mean it wasn't great yesterday, but still six. He'll take that. With Matt schaubin there, who knows what you're gonna get. At least you know he threw a touchdown to Austin Hooper. That helps, But Calvin Ridley a letdown. I mean, just all around. I think dan Quinn is as good as gone, Greg. Does he

make it to the end of the season. No, No, their cutter, you can't can you can't get it to me More as the defensive end, I guess you can think Mike Mlarkey, Yeah, I think you're cutter to coach. Yeah, I think dan quinns is it his gun. I agree. I said that for a while now Bill survive against the Dolphins. Defense wasn't as good as I would hope for. Josh Allen did look good. A lot of him. Um on the other side, Mark Walton, Hala Milage, it's a

lot of them with Kenyan Jake on the j block. Yeah, I thought that Mark Walton was a clear winner yesterday as well. He had six He had fourteen carries. Kenyan Drake only had six. Mark Walton led this team with thirty eight of the snaps. He had one target as well, so he had fifteen opportunities total, whereas Kenyan Drake only had ten. They're trying to trade away Kenyan Drake. That's why I said last week, Greg, I thought Mark Walton

was a good waiver wire ad. So yeah, I think Mark Walton is a clear winner, although he's on a bad team. I think the wide receivers as much as you want to Scoff edit Greg, they let us down two weeks ago with Ryan Fitzpatrick as the quarterback. Preston Williams and DeVante Parker are both gonna have value tough matchup against the Bills yesterday, and they still showed up a games. It's a very, very good point. All right, we had a lot more to talk about. We'll do

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f like, how can you do that? Not tell the league? And of course Jeff, Jeff's just like I should have outed Gregg the first time. He should have. Fine, you should have. Nobody should have. Didn't do any of the illegal. Appreciate shady as a F two because that's redundant. R b I s are also um bett insight, so use for this weekend, my league. But that's any Frank, do let you do anything wrong unless they figure it out. It's only cheating if you get caught, right, But it

wasn't cheating. It was a loophole technically, well what to loophole? Right, I mean, you know, bending the rules kind of seeing. You know, it's Bill Belichick knowing the rules. There you go. The different is its whistling from his bench. That's what's right, Bill Belichick's undefeated. Me. I can't buy a win because I suck. So this is your fantasy karma. So get tea. I didn't cheat, but I still suck. I'm sorry. Well, you know what, Greg as David Johnson owner, I'm probably

gonna lose as well. What are my chances of the Patriots scoring two points or less tonight? The Patriots defense? Yes, very bad? Right, Yeah, it's not kids tonight. Yeah, we're got a mill night football. A little bit later on in the show, Patriots uh and Jets from that lefty going, I'm not going. I was offered tickets by two different people. But get home late on Monday night, and you know your Tuesday gets start off. You're all sluggish. Gonna take

me a while to get home from the stadium. It's fine. I was just watching from the comfort of my couch. That's that's probably gonna get out anyway. Probably I'm gonna I want to try to go to Giants Cowboys in two weeks on in the night. I don't know, considering Daniel Jones keeps playing the way he is, maybe you won't want to do that, you know, Man, I'm gonna say it's definitely. It's like on my right, it's it's my wedding weeks. It's a cool week to start off

the wedding week, right like Giants Cowboys. That's basically kicking off November. Huh, kicking off your birthday week my birthday week. That's right, it's not your wedding week, it's my birthday. Well, you know, I'm not saying what I'm pretty sure my birthday is more important. They not saying what's in your wedding I'm just saying that my birthday week, your birthday week, coincides of my wedding week. All right? Well, will there be a birthday cake for me at your will be cake?

Birthday cake cake? Can I just have one candle on my piece of cake? Can we make that happen? Absolutely? Are you if you bring everybody, if you bring a cow your piece of cake? You're not gonna set it up for me? Man, no problem, You're not gonna have You're gonna have your pants and heavy birthday to me. No, that'd be great. I'm sure it wouldn't be. You're not noticed the happy birthday to you, and that would be equally great. You can do that. You get my camp friends,

You're gonna bother you with advice all night long. You're like, yes, you want advice save for me, Dannit all right, good, and I'm hopefully I'm so intoxicated that I give them all the correct answers. Hopefull. You know, when I'm sober, I probably won't give you the wrong advice for them. Frank, something's gonna help you and your cheating team. Gregerfer, we're all in touch with loopholes in that league.