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Patriots vs. Colts tonight features the return of Julian Edelman and a potential showcase for Josh Gordon. Gregg Sussman and Frank Stampfl will give their Thursday night advice, plus unveil Frank's week 5 rankings! They are also joined by Dr. A of Inside Injuries to discuss the latest with all of the injuries around the NFL. Gregg and Frank open the program with excitement for the Yankees moving on the ALDS for a meeting with the Red Sox. Gregg looks at how his waiver wire went wrong when he bid low on Marquez Valdez-Scantling.  #FNTSY #NFL #fantasyfootball #Week5 #InsideInjuries #Packers #TYHilton #Colts #Patriots #MarquezValdezScantling #MVS #JoeMixon #KenyanDrake

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You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Fantasy Best Friends Forever m Do do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Yo, says love Fantasy Best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside Frankie Stample. I am Greg sum. What's going on Monday? Gregg A Week five kicks off tonight, got the Patriots and the Indian Apples Coats. Dr Ray Conan on the show a little bit later on talk some injuries, but we gets

all the football stuff. How about them Yankee pounded out? Nah? I don't have anything to gets Oakland whatever the Yankees. One Friday night? Do you know the pitching matchup Christal versus Jay happen. Is that the assumption I'd imagine that you're not gonna make my way aft to Jersey Friday night, So obviously to get throw some shekels down for NFL this weekend. Probably throw something down for Connor and cabib too. I'll be watching UM and then you know what, I'll

probably put something on the Yankees too. But is that smart? No, don't, don't bear with your heart. No, you don't think they take the first game. I've already just taked over. Whatever it is makes sense. I can see that you have fun last night. I did, man, you know I did. It was great, it was. It was a very fun game all around. I'm gonna be houest with you. I was never nervous, it really wasn't even the bases were loaded.

Was like, I don't really nervous. No, I was. I definitely was when it was whatever that was the fourth ending, right, I think it was. We still only had a two run lead. We as in you know, me being part of the Yankees. UM two run lead, bases loaded two outs, It's kind of a scary situation. And then the very next ending, which you know, I was surprised that they left several, you know, in to start the fifth because I think he was already at like eight plus pitches

at that point. Gives up the first two hits, and then here comes with Dances, who you know has been inconsistent at times, but god, he was awesome last night. He was great. Man, he was he was on fire. We're getting dead. I'm not happy, Frank, I'm really not happy. What's up? So and lead where waivers run every day at noon the day day noon, it's kind of weird Wednesday through Sunday. Well, it was like we used to

have first come first, sir. This is a compromise. Waivers will just run every day noon, okay, So like the big waiver runs obviously on Wednesday at noon and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Cold people putting bids or cold the zero dollar bidsin in this league, could people putting mids whatever? So in

this league I owned Davante Adams and Geronimo Allison. I see that cav Allison and Adams not practicing today and Adams chefs are kind of alluded, like it could be even longer, like what so anyway, I see that, I'm like, oh god, now I gotta go out and let me just get m v s. It doesn't really flow very well. Yeah vs vs m VS or if you did one of these m v s, it's a little bit better

because r VD and in the middle. I like that, I got it all right, So I went to go and get m v s off of waivers more kez vowed the scantling. His news breaks literally at and I'm just like, my dollar bid in for him, not worry about it. So only one other person bid on m VS other than myself. One other person, and I've been one dollar again hometown Heller bien nine bucks on MVS, and I'm like, what are you doing? Why did you? Why did you do this? You only bid one dollar?

You can't kick yourself for I probably would have been five if I had those guys, and I still would have got it, still have lost. There's no way I would have been ten dollars. Maybe he really needs a wide receiver this week. So I asked him, like a nine dollars, Really, he just did it, am I go, I just did it, and I don't even know why. I didn't even have a claiman prior I tried to

switch you down to four right out of time. And if you would have had the five or six dollar bid in like I said, if he if he would have lowered it here a lot of what's going on. The good news is Greggy, the Packers could potentially be without all three of those wide receivers, their starting wide receivers in Davantae Adams, Jeronimo Allison, and Randall Cobb. And if that's the case, they will be starting three different rookies. Who's to say that MVS is the man like? It

could be more. It could be open to me a st Brown if you really really are desperate and just need a guy to like like play, I have a pick up one of those guys. I have a plugging play, don't you worry? And can we reel it? Now? Tell me who are you playing? Welcome back to the starting lineup, Kenyan Drake. He's better than the other Hacker wide receivers and throwing he I don't know to know because the other player I could have plugged in, um Jordan Wilkins. Obviously.

The other player I could have plugged it working on that is is Chris Hogan and that would be an interesting he placed tonight and I can't do that yet. I have a feeling about Chris Hogans. I've got a feeling. So I was thinking about who I was gonna drop for MVS. Let me just drop Chris Hogan was like, you know what he plays tonight. I gotta weight on it. I gotta weight on it. So like am and I don't have MVS now if you were wondering, because I

just looked this up. The Packers snapshare throughout the season at the wide receiver position, Mark has Valdes Scantling MVSY has played percent of the snap so he's the fourth wide receiver, which means he's the next man up if

all three of those can't go. The only other wide receiver who has played a snap for the Packers is Jamon Moore, who has fourteen percent of the snaps, which he played all of last week without Randall com Yeah, and then probably the number two in terms of like those are probably the starting wide receivers if all three can't go and you're really struggling right now, MVS, Marcus Valdus Handling and Jama Moore are probably starters. That is all speculation, but it is not sounding good for the

Packers wide receivers right now, the normal starters. That's all we have on a Thursday. Yeah again, that that Schefter's tweet really scared me. Um about Cobb. It was the you know what I would really do these act tweeks. I don't want to get it wrong. Um, he said this. Packers head coach Mike McCarthy's Dvante Adams won't practice today doing like to to a calf injury. Neither Randall CoV hamstring or Geroni will Alison concussion. Packers down their top

three wide receivers today and maybe beyond. And when Schefter says maybe beyond it, that hasn't hold his deal beyond today, Like maybe they're out tomorrow, doesn't mean they're out for like the rest of it. I'm being too nervous about that. You think I think you're reading into that a little bit too much. I would, personally, as the Davanta Adams owner in multiple leagues, like I am nervous for sure, Like there's definitely a chance that all three of those

guys missed this game this week. I wouldn't be shocked, you know, I wouldn't freak out about beyond this week. Right now, that seems very very spec not freaking out about about this week, as you should be and as all Davanta Adams owner should be. Unfortunately, we won't talk DR about Davante Adams. Yeah, I mean, look rightfully, So we give we give DR a list of players and those are the players that he researches. So we're you know, we're not just gonna spring this on him what not

necessarily fair to him. We will ask him about John Willison, Randall, Cob. Maybe he'll give us up on Jamante Adams as well, though that would be cool. Greg, My rankings are live. What did you want to call the high five thing? You had like a really catchy nickname for it. It was like the best five. Well it's supposed to be f yeah, but you had like an acronym for it, Like what was the acronym? It was like Frank's best Fantasy five something like that? Is that what it is?

The best Fantasy five? Maybe not Frank's just the best Fantasy five. That's Fantasy five. Run that by Scotty. It sounded better last week. You don't like it as much now. I may have had a better tune to it last week. Well, they're live on rdal Experts dot com. Right now you can see my rankings for free bfs BF best Fantasy five. That's what that was. That was what it was. It was definitely best Fantasy five. It's fantasy five. Alright, that's

fantasy confidence. Have you looked at it yet? All? That's not good? Do you want to reveal it yet? Other news from today, Joe Nixon back at practice. This is good news rather than some of the injury news we have with the Packers. Yeah, and Giovanni Bernard is not practicing dealing with a knee injury, so that is UM an interesting turn of events. I know that he's kind of this has kind of been his schedule of the past couple of weeks, Like he hasn't practiced, They've been

giving him maintenance days. UM, And ranking the Bengals running backs this week is kind of hard because I think I have them both inside my top twenty four as of now. Because the over the last two weeks, the Dolphins are allowing the most fantasy points to opposing running backs, and I'm sure last week has a lot to do with that with James White going off and Sony Michelle going off. UM, But the Dolphins are kind of reeling right now, so this could be a good matchup before

the Bengals. It's just obviously Joe Mixon will be a lot more valuable if Giovanni Bernard is out. But if they both play, let's say, they're probably both more like Loewend RB two's or high end flex options. They both if Giovanni Bernard is out, probably like a top fifteen running back. I have more a little bit more competence in Joe Mixon than you do. I said the yesterday on the show that I go out and trade for him.

I trust them a little bit more. Evans tweeted this a little while ago, and that was a great tweet. He goes Bengals pass cashier update, Tyler Eiffert out for the year, John Ross growing questionable, Giovanni Bernard knee questionable, Joe Mixon leg questionable, A J Green, Xavian Howard, Tyler Boyd Yati he's going to eat Gregg. He's going to eat. So I will present this to you again. Should I trade Mike Evans in my home league? Mike Evans Kenny Stills,

you say now? And Kenyan Drake for Mary Cooper. Tyler Boyd and Derrick Henry. Should I do it one and three? I need to win. No. The other trade to have on the table is Kareem Hunt and Kenny Stills. I give that up to get David Johnson and Juliettel. Yeah. I think that's I can do that deal. That's what you can do? Is that? Now? Are you you do? You do both trades the league? Yeah? That's crazy changing my whole team. It's fun. Would you do both? No? Probably?

Not all right? I kind of need to revamp team. Like I have Sammy Watkins going up against the Jaguars. If Keelan Cole, you don't know what to expect from that guy. Chris Hogan not playing him tonight. He's broadcast score like three touchdowns and he stills. He sucks. Mike Williams doesn't play enough, snaps sucks man. I'm sorry, man. October it sucks. Rock October starts to what it? You know? Rocked over? Oh. Normally we have like some for lack of a better term, douche who gives us a thumbs

down to start the show every single day. It hasn't happened today, Someone's probably gonna do it. Was stupid for mentioning that that wasn't your rightest decision. Well whatever, it just it gives me confidence that we're doing a good job. Thirteen minutes into the show. You're gonna pull my rankings at any point? Probably not. I'm going to pull your ranking. I was gonna do it after the break. We have dr A coming up. We have a whole lot of

show left with preview Thursday Night Football. Are you excited about tonight's game? I'm not watching it actually, Oh it's uh, you know what it is, Patriots Colts. It like a baking show tonight. No, no, no, no, no, no, you wanta know what I'm doing tonight? Sure? So I will be going to the Melrouse Ballroom in Long Island City. Oh gosh, you're seeing some boogie hipster band or something.

Try again. Uh, let's see here, ball rooge hipster band again, not a hipster and probably like Billy Joel or something. Joe's not playing the Melrose ball Room. Try again. Oh you're gonna go watch something wrestling? Yeah, we want to m l W tonight. M Major League Wrestling because that one of their champions is my old camper, right right right, JF Maxwell, Jacob Friedman. He's wrestling tonight. I like that. We just do like three lettered things for everything. It's

his nickname now, it's not. I didn't make that up. No, it's not. M JF is recently on Stone Colds podcast. Really. Yeah, So he's kind of a big deal. Kind of a big deal now. So we're going to um Simon Dotts wrestles there. A bunch of people wrestled there, like John Morrison might be there tonight potentially. Wow, good for you. So anyway, maybe streaming the Colts game on your phone. Probably not, probably not. Maybe. So he's my old caver and oddly enough one of my best friends I was

agree wasmen in his wedding. Um his wife's now it's their first cousin. So they're like a family relation there. So him and I are going to support my old camper tonight and and check it out supporting independent wrestling. That's cool, man. I'm looking through the roster right now. There's definitely some there's some interesting you know. I had the last at the last taping I think in New York, like Pentagon was there jor to night. Yeah, I think he's not gonna be there that I think they already

said he's not going to be that. The park is going to be there. There's probably like three people who were watching or listening that know what we're talking about. It's all right, man, we know they're talking about you. Asked as well, Jacob Friedman, Oh, this guy kind of has like an E C three things. Yes, exactly, he's basically EC three but smaller. Yeah, he's like a cocky like he's wearing a Burberry scars. That's the look. That's

kind of a cool gimmick. I guess signature moved Southampton's plunge. Yes, he's he's like a Long Island douche. That's the character. So what made you the wrestling support? It will be on probably seen on TV. Actually about this because this will is this a TV somewhere? It does on be in sports Okay, so lot of soccer on beings exactly. So it airs on Friday evenings, So I don't know when tonight's well tape um, but I'm obviously going to just like reading through the bio stuff like this is

so easy. Three pro wrestlings first, one per center. Yeah, it's like so easy. That's a little Ivy leaguer Maxwell Jacob Friedman enjoys the finer things in life. He did not go to Ivy League school. That's false, it's fake news. Come on, dude, why are you crushing the I don't even think he says it. Don't crush the cafe? Abe Sorry, man excited talk about injuries, doctor, Yeah, we have a

lot of injuries because it was doctor right. I want a preview Thursday Night football as well, and we'll's your rankings. Of course, to Frank Cults, Patriots should be fun. Um yeah, I feel like it's a hard game to kind of to handicap tonight ten and a half points spread. The Patriots always pick the crap out of the Colts. It's true. I saw a few betting trends and your luck never plays well. But like the Patriots defense is that rate t y Hilton could be a let down game for

the cold Sto. Like Andrew looks at that monster performance last week, I think they're gonna have rocked, do you think so? Yeah? Kind of leaning with you right now. A lot of money coming in on the under right now. Actually look about down. We can look about that a little bit later on when we come back. Dr a inside Injuries will join us. No more Major League wrestling talk promise I was talking dr and injury update is next here in the BFS. Daily Rodo dot Com learned

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who oh to jump back in. Yes, oh, yeah, you're right. Let's do it after this. Yeah, we've been out of the loop a little bit for the past couple of weeks for Survivor, because of course we took the vikings and it is so stupid. Dr A from incident injuries. He's not stupid. What's going on? Doc? Hey, guys, how's it gone? It's going all right? How about yourself? I'm doing great. I'm doing great. That's fantastic. You know who's not doing eight? Green Bay where all of their wide

receivers now injured. Jeronimo Allison was concussed, Randall Colls got the hamstring all of a sudden today Davante Adams heard his calf. What is the latest on the wide receivers in Green Bay? So, Geronimo Allison, Uh, you know Grade two concussions one, Yeah, So we don't think it's just a simple concussion. We feel like it's a grade two and um, you know it's his first of all, and it's a second documented concussion since entering the NFL, so

um he this is his actual second documented concussion. So right now, we don't think he should come back before weeks seven. Okay, So, and so if he does, he didn't practice Wednesday, not a good sign. Um, and so he's still in concussion protocol even if he is clear to start in week five. Um, we feel that he's

putting himself at risk on the data shows that. And you know, unfortunately, uh, he's still he's gonna remain at elevated injury risk on the border of high injury risk all the way up to a week seven until in our books, he'll be ready to go. So it's not as simple as Uh, we feel that it's not as simple as as many people are saying. So maybe you should trade Geron Whileison for for mvs. Greggy Marquez Valdes

Scanty who. You know, it's a very interesting wide receiver prospect for the Packers because you might not know this. He's six ft four, he made some noise in the preseason. He's extremely fast, So the only thing with him is he's kind of raw. So I don't know take that for what it is. But if you're gonna take a raw wide receiver who's extremely big and fast, I guess you're gonna want to take him with Aaron Rodgers, right,

So that might make the most sense there. Uh, Dr, I wanted to ask you about Leonard Fournett because as usual fantasy owners when they see an injury like this strike and they're sitting pretty at four and oh and three and one, they like to have injury optimism. And we get a lot of questions, should I trade for Leonard Fournett now so I can have him for the long haul? Now, I've seen reports that say Leonard four net can be out as far as through their week

nine by so he wouldn't be back until week ten. Uh, And I have a feeling that you're probably going to someone agree with that. How long is one four net gonna be out with? Well? So, first of all, it is a re aggravation of a hamstring injury, which is

always not good. Um. And uh, you know, even though the m r I what they're saying, showed that injury isn't worse than the initial hamstring injury, the fact that it's actually a trick and so when so the m r I showed that the injury wasn't any worse than

the initial hamstring injury. So when he had the initial hamstring injury in week one, it did heal all the way like it should have been, and now it's re aggravated all the way back, so there's worsening from when you know it healed all the way back, which is actually worse than the original injury because you've hit the muscle twice now in the last five weeks with an injury,

and that's for anything that's not really that good. So hopefully I didn't confuse everybody, but he had elevated, he was elevated injury risk at before this uh injury reaggravation. So we were watching him, we were watching and we felt that he was at one in five chance of actually reinjuring it, and he did, and now he's at high injury risk and pour HPF. His HTR that we're projecting is week eight and with one caveat if he doesn't reaggravate it or have a setback in practice or

anything like that. Otherwise you could see week nine, week ten, week eleven. Um, you know that sort of thing. So the Jaguars do have a little bit of a luxury here because of their record. So um, I would say if anything before week it, I'd be very surprised, very surprised.

And I actually have t J Yelden ranked inside my top ten this week, greggy at the running back position basically because they're going up against the Kansas City Chiefs who are allowing a ton of receptions and a ton of receiving yards and running backs and that's really where t J. Yelden can excel. He's actually fit into this offense quite seamlessly. T J. Yelden, that is so um. I think that they're going to be cautious with Leonard Fournett.

They need him for the long haul, they need him for the playoffs, they need him, you know, to be healthy for that part of the season. I think for the next three or four weeks, you have a borderline RB one in your hands if you have t J. Yellen. Yeah, a lot of people are hio on t J. Yelden not realizing or the mainstream has not realized. Ultimately, I believe he's been a top twelve running back in number

eleven overall in fantasy scoring. So they got the first four weeks this season, so a top twelve PBR running back, as we said, and without Leonard four Nett, that position is gonna hold true, you know, but Leonard for a t J. Yelding guy going all the back to all the way back to Alabama. It's happy for the kid. There you go, Doctor, I want that's so old saying that happy for the kid. Mappy for the kid. Were

like something like that. Dr. I want to ask you about your Atlanta Falcons and DeVante Freeman, who is back at practice and expected back for week five. Um. Is this the date that he was expect to return according to Inside Injuries and we expect him to have a full workload in his first game back. Yeah, week five was the time preper we were sort of concordant with that, and and so we're good. He We haven't heard any reports of any setbacks during his recovery. So that's a

really good sign, you know. Um. You know, in that same knee, he had an m c L and PCLS brain last season. UM, and so he you know, he's recovered. Well, he was limited in practice Wednesday, but I think that's only from a precautionary standpoint, and so you know he was he right now currently as high at high injury risk. But that's at this moment, right up till game time. UM, that thing, you know, that number should drop down to elevated. UM. Again,

it's DeVante Freeman. Um from this particular injury he did heal from, but his injury risk will not be at low, It'll be at elevated. He's one, He's going to be an elevated and peak guy, high risk, high reward um. So make sure you have an insurance policy because um, you know he will still be at elevated injury risk of likely eighteen to nine. Greggy, if you're a DeVonta Freeman owner, do you think now is it time to try and strike and get Tevin Coleman because the value

is lower than it was obviously the past couple of weeks. Yeah, so I think it has to be. Yeah, I completely agree with you. I completely, completely utterly agree with Coleman. Now Devant Freeman back, this is the time to buy. You don't have a choice about it. We're talking to dr Ay from Inside Injuries and doct tonight. We have the Patriots and the Cults, a couple of major injury issues for both sides here with Gronk being questionable and t Y Hilton being out. Will Gronk plate tonight and

how long do you think Hulton me out? So t Y Hilton is you know Grade one hamstring. This is the he's got the hamstring injury reward for the last four seasons because he's at it two thousand fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen and now two thousand eighteen and so um. But the interesting thing is is that um t Y Hilton had did not have any hamstring issue over the offseason, preseason, anything like that, and so this is a very minor injury. So the good news is that it hasn't been as

severe as previous hamstring injuries. So healthy to return right now is week six, So yes, glad that he's sitting out Week five. He should be good to go week six. He's at high injury risk right now. He likely will not get back down to low injuries. He'll stay at elevated throughout the rest of the year, and if he has one more injury, he will remain at high. So again, this is like a DeVante Freeman type of strategy that you guys just talked about. You need an insurance policy

with t Y Hilton. He plays through a lot of injuries, but that does not necessarily help fantasy players because he may play through them, but his performance may not be He may be on the on the on the field, but his performance may not be um, you know, at peak. So I wanted to ask you about Joe mixing dr A because he's practicing again today. Giovanni Bernard has not been practicing, so it seems like they just kind of

need a running back healthy at this point. I don't know if it's just um scheduled days off for you've don't even know. I feel like he hasn't been practicing the past couple of weeks. But oh long, I'm pretty sure you guys have said that Joel makes you should be out longer than week five. I don't have a good feeling about this. What say you about Joe Mixon? Doctor, this is uh danger Joe Mixon danger if he comes back before week eight, he has he's he's at twenty

six to twenty eight percent injury risk and re injury risk. So, um, you know, this is a you know, way way too soon if he's you know, I've expected to try to come back week five. Um, you know, and this is one of those things where he's so far from the timeline. Uh and you know, UM, it's such a disparity between when you know the team, when we think that the team is saying he's going to come back versus what our algorithm and data is showing. It's week eight, guys,

and that's it. It's basically that he'll stay here's at high injury risk until he gets to week eight. That's not good. That it's not good. No, we eat, that's crazy. It's so far away. Yeah, I know, because all along they were saying two to three weeks, but inside injuries, when every week that we've had them on they're saying four to six weeks. Right closer to that six weeks timetable. Yeah, great, three great. Three. Knee injury meniscus. It's a meniscus tears.

Running back putting a ton of pounding on those knees and ankles. I mean that is uh running back meniscus, highly high chance of recurrence and re injury rate if he doesn't get fully healed. We're talking to doctor from inside Injuries. And although I didn't get m v S, I did get Caerin Braid, who's on a buy. I spent a dollar on him. James Winsteon is back and O. J. Howard is out. How long should we expect O. J.

Howard to be out for the bucks. So grade two m c L s brain UM not torn, which is great, but as optimal covery time is three weeks healthy to return week seven, So he still needs a couple more weeks to get that completely done. The biggest thing about tight ends is that lateral movement in blocking, and you know, there's such a big body that m c L needs to completely heal to have that stability at the knee level, and so any pain that he suffers, it's going to

really impact him. And so that's why we're recommending week seven, UM not week six. You know, it's interesting, same injury I think doc as Evan Ingram. And is it the same timeline there as well? Do you remember, UM, I believe we gave UM. I'm trying to see what we gave Evan Ingram. UM. Let me think here. I think we I think it is the same timeline. UM. I don't have the data in front of me, but I

do believe it's the same time frame. Both both had sprain m c ls in that name of leave was both green grade two U neither tore their m c L. Evan Ingram working his way back, there would be a second miss game. We'll see if he can um start practicing next week ultimately come back a week later. So I think I feel like the timetable for Evan Ingram was two to four weeks, right, and that sound is like kind of a similar timetable that doctor is giving us here now for O. J. Howard, Uh, Doc, I

want to ask you about Will Fuller. This actually just came out eight minutes ago that his hamstring is quote not bothering him at this stage of the week. But you know, this was something he dealt with in the preseason. It's something that forced him to miss week one, and then now he played. He's performed well in weeks two and three, and in this past week he actually reinjured it and didn't come back in the second half. They

said he could have returned, but they're being cautious with him. Uh. It kind of seems like it's one of those situations where maybe they should let him sit out until he's completely healthy. And there are a lot of implications here because people picked up Kiki Kota, who was the next wide receiver up in Houston, So there are a lot of implications here for both him and the owners who picked up Kiki, which we expect out of Will Fuller in week five. Yeah, We've always had Will Fuller at

high injury risk? Who was before this injury and reaggravation based on all the data that we have on him, he was high injury risk. Who's at who's at peak health at the time, but he was at high injury risk because he's a wide receiver, multiple previous hamstring and knee injuries. And so the biggest thing here is is that it's a Grade one hamstring. It's not a great to thank God, but because it's he's a wide receiver, we have a two week opteral more recovery time, so

it's really an HTR week six. So if he does play in week five, lookout for another one of these, you know, reaggravation of the hamstring um because high injury risk right now. I don't even want to tell you guys what we have on the percentage for high right now, but it's for if he plays in week five. Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense. While we're talking about wide receivers with hamstrings, We've had t Y Hilton, we have Will Fuller, we also have Sammy Watkins. Doc.

Maybe this's like a two part question I'm gonna go two different ways here, because why do wide receivers so often pull their hamstring? Like, is there something that they can do better to prep themselves so that we don't get these hamstrings week in week out. It feels like every single week we have five different wide receivers who are pulling their hamstrings coming up lane, leaving game because of a hamstring strain, missing games because of a hamstring train.

We expect Sammy Watkins this week because he left early in that game on Monday Night Football, a lot of people were depending on him. Give us a zero. And now this week he goes up against the Jacksonville Jaguars secondary, which is a very very tough secondary. Even if he plays, I don't think he's gonna be you know, all that valuable. Yeah, So answer your first question. I've always said, and Greg knows this, um. You know, hamstring injuries for wide receivers

are is the biggest, biggest issue. And it's there no pun intended achilles heel. The biggest reason why is because they go through they go to zero, they go zero through sixty and initiate that movement. It's all hamstrings when you see them on the line, of scrimmage and the ball is snapped and they initiate that first movement. Guess what muscle is used. It's the hamstring muscles to to lift the knee up and start going as fast as they can. They do a lot of running and then

and that initial movement is all hamstring. And so in cold weather, if they're a little bit injured, if they're not completely stressed, out stretched out, or just sometimes it just happens, you know. Uh, that's why it's it's the hamstring, and it's hard to come back from for wide receivers. That's why, like, for example, Sammy Watkins grade one hamstrings train just a Grade one, it's not a Grade two or three. It's fine. However, it is so sensitive to

our receiver. We have to have a two week optimal recovery time. So week six is probably the way to go. But he's always been an elevated injury risk. You guys know Sammy Watkins history, We know all of the wide receivers and you know their data in the NFL. He's at high injury risk right now and likely will stay there now because this is probably the sixth or seventh injuries had over the last twelve months, and you know

that's just what our algorithm is saying. So week six healthy to return, but he will remain at high injury risk. So he's another one of these guys where you know you could you know, I keep kind of referencing Davante Freeman's strategy here, but it could be one of those things. Again. You know, it's amazing we buy Sammy Watkins every year. This is the He's gonna stay healthy, this is the

year the breakouts gonna happen. Was he was valuable, sure putting up number and then the same thing happens that those every year he gets hurt. It's not normally a hampsturing injury form, but I like everything else. Come on, dude, it's annoying in the week where in the league where I'm one than three and I own him, I might just shop him just to see what I can get. I'm not sure everybody should do that, but based on his name value, you might be able to get something

from makes sense. Today, we last player to ask you about Dr Adrian Peterson's the latest on him. Okay, so very quickly grade one ankle sprain. Um you know his complete history. He didn't practice Wednesday, which is not a good sign. He was high injury risk before this injury and now he's still at high injurisk forty nine percent, So it's two week optimal recovery time. He should be

back week five, but I would not. You know, we're recommending that you should trade him because um, you know, he's at a forty percent injury risk and he will only go down to a forty to a thirty nine percent. Always going to be high, high risk. Hiro were a type of player now, And I think this sets up for a big Chris Thomps Thomps again because they're going up against the Saints in the Dome. I believe Drew Brees is chasing history. The Saints are also big favorites

in this game. It's gonna be a lot of back and forth. The Washington could be trailing, so I think it sets up for a big Chris Thompson week. Greet. I think so too. I think it would be a massive, massive Christ Thompson week. Adrian Peterson banged up again, They're gonna be trailing and trying to come back and love Chris Thompson this week. Dr a inside injuries, Thank you so much for joining us. We'll do it again next week. Thanks guys, have a good week you as well as

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you want, I'm gonna do the quarterbacks. All right, We'll start with the quarterbacks. You're number one quarterback. This week's big Ben Roethlisberger. That's kind of where everybody has him in a hasty match up against Atlanta the first time in since Week one. I believe in the league where I have Patrick Mahomes and Ben Roethlisberger starting, I'm doing the same exact thing in a league where I have both of those guys. It's actually the Flex League. I

think it makes sense. Patrick Mahomes going up against the Jaguars, I think we expect a big game out of the Steelers and Big Bandits is a borderline must win game for them. They're at home. We know the home road splits at a big end. The Falcons defense has allowed the most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks over the last two weeks. Reggy, this game has a total of fifty seven and a half points. That is the highest total of the year to this point the National Football League.

So that makes my number two quarterback Ryan. Makes sense that Ryan, that game is going to be one you want to stack in DFS and one that you want to just pour in and taking the overnight game. That's a lot of points. I mean, you probably should. You probably should, but that of course, that's the public perception and I probably I love Franks still against public perception these days. It's like that's this new thing, but that's the big news thing because I mean, look, I consider

myself part of the public. I'm not a professional better by any means on any games. So you know, like to bet overs generally, of course, nobody wants nobody wants a route for un there. I mean I probably wouldn't touch it. I don't know that I touched the game. I think actually like the bet there in that game, if you wanted to touch the game is I would take the Falcons money line can win the game. I can see the Steelers defense is bad as bad as

it is right now. I can see that. I'm just a matter of do you think the Steelers back against the wall, their backs are against the wall so much that they just come out firing and they just like trounced the Falcons. I don't know that that happens. It's probably a close game regardless. Okay, Um, going back to your rankings here, I'm trying to find something that's interesting. Do you have Aaron Rodgers at number ten and I was reading something on with all of his wide receivers out?

Is Aaron Rodgers a must start? Would you consider moving Aaron Rodgers down of all three wide receivers are out, I would. In the Detroit Lions secondary um and their defense specifically has been very good in the past couple of weeks. Even in that first week, it looks on paper like they gave up a lot of points, like their defense played terribly, But that was really Matthew Stafford turning the ball over a ton and putting their defense

and bad positions on the field. Plus the Jets scored a ton um of points on defensive touchdowns and special teams touchdowns, so you know the Lions defense has actually been pretty damn good. And if Aaron Rodgers is without his top three receiving options, I have him at ten right now. If all three of those guys don't play, I could see moving him down to like moving Stafford, Kirk Cousins and Blake Portals all ahead of him. He wouldn't look at him, No, I have Andrew look at fourteen.

He's right behind Blake Portles like he's done and he did actually last week to like get back in my good graces somewhat like I've moved him up. But again, how much can you like a guy when he's missing t Y Hilton. We think that this is kind of a trap game, like he's gonna be playing from behind and they can't run, so like he's gonna have to throw. And I think he's high end QB two. But I just think those guys right ahead of him, like Lake Portals, uh is in play for a great match up here

against the Kansas City Chiefs. We know that in games that Leonard Fournett doesn't play. Blake Bortles is fantasy gold uh and going up against secondary that obviously only helps Kirk Cousins. You can't run the football against the Eagles defense. Like the way to attack the Eagles defenses through the air,

and the Vikings have great wide receivers. We just saw that a week ago on Thursday night when they played against the Rams defense, which is a very good defense, and Kirk Cousins still managed to light them up with his weapons. So Bortles, Cousins and then even Stafford, who now the Packers secondary. I know they did better against against Josh Allen, but I still overall don't trust him.

And Stafford has enough weapons to the point where I like him, Like Kenny Golladay, Marvin Jones, and Golden Tape. I like all three of those quarterbacks better than Andrew Luck. I'm very surprised. I guess not surprised. I was staring at it and see where pass him? Um is Blake Bortles right now that he's love right, he's number thirteen, But I thought he'd be wind up being a Q one this week because the tasties match and some people rank rank Blake Bortles ahead of Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, so

that was actually what I was comparing. And Mahomes still makes your top six the toughest matchup we could possibly have interesting. Yeah, And and I'm higher on the consensus than him. But if you look at the players that I have just behind him, right, Tom Brady, what has he done to really inspire confidence? DeShawn Watson. He's had a few big games, but he's been inconsistent, and the

Cowboys defense is actually pretty damn good. Jared Goff, Like, maybe that's the one that you can argue should be hiring. My rankings, I have him ninth, but like in an NFC West matchup against the Seahawks in Seattle where their defense has played better this year at home obviously when they have a fake twelfth man or whatever it is. Um, I think he's adequately ranked at nine. So the only guys that I like more than than Patrick Mahomes this

week our Rivers, Cam Newton, Breese, Ryan and Roethlisberger. And it's just based on the matchup do you have? Do you think I have my homes right to do? I do? Ultimately, if you own Patrick Mahomes and Blake Portals, who would you start? I think they want to start Blake Man. You're the one who just ranted to me earlier in the week. Don't start bad players in good matchups, you went on rant. I'm saying you're right, I'm agreeing with

I'm agreeing with you. That's a stupid thing. I'm being wrong. There, good call, you're right, you're right. Let me in to the tight ends? Cool. Yes, let's say I usually see the runing backs of wider series for tomorrow and I do half to them to do PPR standard. Uh, probably standard, but it doesn't matter not to standard, nod to play standard. Um, I'm gonna go only we do an elite together. It's it's you know, we'll not my choice only. I was inviting to um, well, we'll go to the PPR and

Jerry Cooke a top three tight end in the consensus. Well, Frank has it and everybody has it. Why Jack Cook's number one tight end and Fantasy football for the first five weeks, first four weeks, number one number. You know he's the best and he has locked in that role as being the number one or two options in the Oakland offense. You don't want to say you can trust big foot, but it certainly seems like you can. Yeah, he's the number one tight end. As you've mentioned, he's

top three this year in terms of tight end targets. Um, he has thirty five targets on the season. So yeah, at this point, look, if Gronk play tonight, if I had both of these players like, I would still play Gronk. There's no way I'm playing Jared Cook over him. But I think outside the top three tight ends Kelsey Earth and Gronk, Garret Cook is the next man up, which is absolutely crazy to say, but um, that's the way that John Gruden in the Raiders offense is choosing to

attack defenses right Amari Cooper. His usage has been inconsistent, his production has been inconsistent. Um, And I just feel like Jared Cook is going to continue to be the target monster for the Oapen Raiders offense. So I trust him in this matchup against the Chargers. I don't. I don't see why there's any reason not to, to be honest, which means he's probably gonna be like, yeah, three for twenty. I I just so I'd assume. So I have Jared Cook rank too high, No, I don't think so it's

reactionary totally. I think he moved Jimmy him. If none of these Packers play, Jimmy Graham's going to move up. You have a Gronk the highest of anyone I've seen this week. You have an inside your top five. I'm sure people weren't sure he's going to play tonight. Um, I guess he's not in the big game if he does. This is just the Gronk ranking, right, Like if he plays, where would you like, would you rank him any differently?

Like I guess based on the information we have on the Packers right now, if you wanted to rank Jimmy Graham ahead of him, you could do that. But then like Jordan Read can have a fine game, Does he have as much upside as Rob Gronkowski? Probably not. Um, Eric Ebron I think can have again, can have a very good game tonight. He's my seventh frank tight end against the Patriots, and you know the Colts are banged up with t Y Hilton, So I think Eric Ebron's

in play for another night's game here. But it's just it's it's the Gronk franking. Like if you if you own him, like you're not going to start any of these guys over him. No, as long as he plays obviously not good Jordan read game. You mentioned Chris Thompson, why could be good for him? We really like Jordan Read against New Orleans. I think it makes a lot of sense. Ron Tonight, no, Jack Doyle, George Kid getting back in the circles, trust inside the top ten um

the President. Van's McDonald only at number ten in the great matchup against Atlanta. Yeah, it's just that his targets have been consistently five, Like that's the past three weeks, every single week, So you know you're gonna get out of Vans McDonald that's actually gonna get five targets, especially fact Vandaloria. So there you go. We're on. But that's the thing is, like, how much more can you like him than that being the ten rank tight end? If

he's only going to get five targets. The way to attack Atlanta obviously is passing the ball to the running back a lot. So I think we see a lot of James Connor receptions in this game, and he's been absolutely torched by wide receivers the past few weeks. Um they're lying the most fantasy points to wide receivers over the last two weeks. So I think we get a lot of Antonio Brown. I think we get a lot of juju and Vans McDonald's just gonna get his five targets.

What he does with those, hopefully a few of them are inside the red zone. He can score a touchdown. That's what would make him a tight end one this week. So I have n't at tenth and I can't see him moving, moving him ahead of any of Kyle Rudolph, George Kittle or Eric Ebron, just because it seems like those guys there, those players respective roles in their offense is more cemented than vansmingdownd makes sense, makes sense eight

four four eight four three six eight seven. Now let's do you get a call before the sign off YouTube? Frankie and that his friend in l A. It's off freend Hey, greeting guys, how's it going? What's going on? Many question my for neet owner and uh I got off from McCaffrey, but in the package steal so he wants for net Edelman for McCaffrey. You I'm gonna run

down my lineup or is that just keep? What would what would your wide receivers be if you trade away Edelman feeling Cooper Crowder and then you want to keep Edelman. But I think you have to make this. I think you have to make the deal. Whore your running back now without Leonard Fournette, it would be uh hunt Brita and carry on. Yeah, I do it. Do it in PPR. Christian McCaffrey is a borderline top five running back. So you can just wash your hands and Leonard four Nette here.

I know it kind of sucks because I've waited four weeks to get Julian Edelman back, but I think you have to make this trade. All right, Thank you so much. That was meaning that towards that side, So that definitely I hit the button right now, do it good? Look man eight four four eight four three eight four four eight four three c S seven. Now we'll sign off YouTube right now. The Fantasy Football Frenzy comes your way next, but we go top of the hour, no doubt about it.

If you're listening to the podcast, make sure you subscribe. Give us five stars, leave a comment. I read them all and we appreciate it very very much. Five minutes ago, Frank Thursday, I Football Tonight, Colton Pats ten point favorite are the past. It seems too large and maybe that's the point. Yeah, ten and a half point favorites. It's you know, you hear this from a lot of you know,

I've been listening more so to Gabe Shows. He has the professional betters on obviously great great work from him and and all of his guests, and they it's something that they consistently say is it's hard to lay double

digit points in the National Football League. And that's how I feel right like, the Patriots can easily be up in this game, but you just always have to fear for that that backdoor cover, scoring a field goal late, scoring a touchdown late to make this game one, to make this game one, something like that, just to to

to to make that backdoor cover happen. With the Indianapolis Colts, uh, the spread has been actually bouncing between ten and a half and ten, so you're you're seeing money come in on the on the Colts and then it goes down tan and people are like, Okay, let's get it back up and it's going to the Patriots side. Honestly, I don't want to touch a spread, Greggy if I if I had to choose something tonight, I would take the under at four and a half points, which I know.

We've seen some big scoring games on Thursday Night football, especially the past couple of weeks. But I could just see this being like a trouncing like you know again, if it's twenty one like that gets you at forty nine like right there, or like seventeen like I could see a score like that tonight. So I'm taking the under. But to be perfectly honest, I don't like anything about betting tonight's game, like the line, the total, I don't

like it. I'm gonna take the Pats. I'm gonna take the Patch to the ten point as the ten point favorite. I get it to a lot of points, and again it's probably too many points. They always crushed the colds Man, Yeah, they know t Y Hilton tonight like this sets up for a big Pats tonight. I I just worry about that backdoor cover. If I had to choose one, I would take the Pats, but I I don't feel I'm

not very confident in that pick. I'm also not gonna pole under something I don't like going on there alone likes going on there. Sheep the public. You hate the public. It's amazing for someone who consider himself a man of the people, you hate the public, a man of the people, and the proms you like. Tonight's by the line, as of now, there's no there's no props. There's no there's no props on the FANDOL sports book. I'm sure you

could find problem atando sports book. Another guy's on a gardener friends of all about this morning, Corey all over Chester Rogers, Chester Rogers to score touchdown. Let's see what that is, because anytime Scorey started talking about it, the odds went down. They said Chester Rogers plus three thirty. Tonight lay a little bit on that, a little little

twenty piece on Chester Rogers. He's been all over. He likes Chester Rogers more than he likes Ery Hebron and more than he likes Ryan gre Are two players that are favorites to score touch sounds tonight Rogronkowsky really um, Sony Michelle Nope, James plus two touchdown James White, James White. And that's very reactionary. James White and Sony Michelle. I could see, Michelle makes sense. James White is very reactionary. I don't know that he gets in the end zone

with with Julian Edelman back. If Gronks out, maybe yeah, maybe James White could get in. But what's the Rock and Edelman play. I don't know if James White getting let me ask us what's Chris Hogan line? So you're still getting great Chester Rogers value is better than Julie then Chris Hogan and Chris Hogan's asked me that the bench tonight, shout out to Corey Parks and the Fantasy executive. I'd rather put money on trust and Rodgers scored the Chris Hogan, it's crazy as it's I agree with you.

Even Ryan Grant. I'd rather put money on Ryan Grant at plus two ninety to score rather than I would Chris right know you're talking about later. Are you going to actually bet on Chesse Rogers tonight? Yeah he is, Okay, I'm good put his money. I'd like to put put put your money in your mouth. You put a couple of shackles on it, and you can come in and make a rain this weekend. Nobody sent shackles anymore. Nobody spend shackles. Maybe maybe you know whatever, maybe you go

to Juventus. That's that those't the players to play for that team. That's who spends shackles. You see that on Carton Friends this morning. No, No, I didn't, but I can. I'm putting things together in my mind. Kenyan Barnard plus seven hundred. Score to night, Greggy, I'm out. The vantazy football friendzies up next, No gym day to day. It's Corey Barson and Chris Ventstra four Frankie Standville. My name is Greg Sels, but thank you so much for watching

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