Week 13 Recap, Winners, Losers, EHHH

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chair there if Chris Fenther wants to join us. Everyone wants to join us as our holiday party, people coming in and out, so we put a chair there just in just in case. Man Happy things given to you, buddy, how was it? I? Thanks Hippy with solid man, watch a lot of football was here, of course, as I am Everythingksgiving producing programmers here all weekend. Frank, you were basically five ft away from the parades. Picture nice. Yeah, you could have been here if you wanted to. I

didn't see you Thursday, Friday or Sunday here, Frank, you didn't. Sorry, man, Okay, it's always this weekend. You're You're not wrong, all right, man? How's your Thanksgiving? My Thanksgiving was a good one. It was fun. I love Thanksgiving, as I said, uh before we went into the weekend, one of my favorite holidays. Just a day filled with eating, drinking, family, football. What more can you ask for? Black Friday the next day, went out shopping a little bit great. It was great.

It was a good weekend. That's great, man. I watched The Irishman over the weekends. Say yeah, you texted me about it. I just talked to my plan. I watched it on Friday morning. It was great. It's pretty good. I enjoyed it. It was good. I very much enjoyed it as well. Great cash, great acting. It was fun. It was fun. It was funny. I've caught up on watched me other than last night, so I accomplished with two things TV wise, and I wanted to watch pomplish

your both solid solid. How did you sleep last night? Great? Really well? My my mom is over so um. We stayed up late hanging out with her, and then I was very tired, went to bed and next thing I knew when the alarm went off in the morning, touch should be every night. Greg could not agree more. Frank, a full day of football yesterday. Here, a lot to go over. Where should we start? I mean, there's lot of places I want to start, and I don't know

the right answer. I guess we can start. It's subjective. I don't think that there is a right answer, like right answer right. I think the Dolphins rights is in general, the Dolphins the biggest winners in every way. His story today yesterday, Miami Dolphins as they should be down to touch has affilly. They scored five straight times and they made the helmet over here. Let's get the Dolphins helmets right here on the show, right now, on the set, Greg's gonna attempt to put Oh my god, it's like

you're gonna end up hurting yourself very severely. There. Greg is loaded up with the Dolphins. Let's go Dolphins. All you need is some facial hair and it's basically Ryan Fitzpatrick go over to gumming up my wedding ring one. I was like, play, I'm good. Dolphins were probably the biggest winners literally figuratively, for real life for fantasy football. DeVante Parker basically when anybody who started him this week helped a lot of people get into the fantasy football playoffs.

He helped Eric Young beat us a game that decided who was going to get to buy heading into the pit League playoffs. So we'll talk a little bit about that. But Devanta Parker was awesome. Greg right, I fitz Patrick was very good. I think that he is a stream next week as well. That special teams play was doncs Gregg. That was awesome. It obviously reminded me of the Colts play that Chuck mcgano drew up so terribly previously on

the fourth down. But the same thing, right, Like all the linement are out wide, there's a kicker and a punter in the middle, Like what that's happening, I'm sorry, snapper in a punter in the middle, and then the punter down. I would say it's a little bit easier to pull off on the goal line than in the middle of the field. But it was awesome all the way around. Patrick Laird, I think, is a winner from you know, we talked about Patrick Laird on the hurry

of hows Worth running back to the Dolphins. I realized he's not easy fifth running back. We've talked about picking up on the Dolphins this year, all right, we spoke about Myles gas Gasking, but no, it's all about Patrick Laird, the dominator as I termed him. Why wouldn't it be Patrick Laird, Patrick Layard, that's the thing, now, huh why not? Kind of? I mean, look, it's hard for the Dolphins to run his official nickname the Intern, right. I saw

they were talking about that on the broadcast sesterday. They called them the intern and then they're like, oh, well, I guess now he has a full time job. Oh you heard it, Yes, indeed, but he still carries five yards average dominantor average half a yard per carry. Look, this team cannot run the football because their offensive line is very bad. They trail in a lot of games. As amazing to me that you have a straight faceball

talking why look at me? It's perfectly fine. I feel like you should do every show with a helmet on you. We want to get this off. No, you're definitely like that for the rest of this show and probably going into our holiday party tonight. He was bad. I love it,

and I think everyone else will too. Patrick Leard will never be able to run efficiently, but he is a good pass catcher in perceptions over his last two years at cal and considering they can't run the football, I think they're probably just gonna throw him a lot of shot passes moving forward. I don't feel good about calumballage non contract, non contact leg injury, so I don't don't think he's gonna be out there. One of a couple of non contact injuries we saw running backs. We'll get

to that in just a moment. DeVante Parker has been amazing. The breakout is real with Rayan Fitzpatrick and Shadows Shake calling the plays out there in Miami. Uh, that's reel. On the other side, Miles Sanders Dominus carries as we expected here, seventeen carriers for eighty three yards. A good game or Miles Sanders j H. I didn't doo much of anything. And the receiving wise, you put alshon Jeffrey in worked out very very well, as did your boy

Dallas Gotter. Yeah, definitely. We'll start with Alshon Jeffrey. His sixteen targets were the highest in his Philadelphia Eagles tenure, Greg, So, massive workload for him yesterday. We knew it was a good matchup. We spoke about that on Wednesday when we were talking, you know, jumping around to a few of these games and what to expect, and we said, look, if Alston Jeffrey is active, you have to start him in this matchup against the Eagles. He was great, nine

catches over a hundred yards, a touchdown as well. He has another good matchup next week against the New York Giants. So I like Alston Jeffrey as a low end wide receiver two, high end wide receiver three in that matchup. You spoke about Miles Sanders. In the games Jordan Howard has missed. He has been treated like the workhorse running backs, seeing a ton of snaps being used as a receiver being used as you know, seeing a ton of rushing

attempts as well. Even Carson Wentz bounced back yesterday. Greg. So it was in the Miami Dolphins defense that it was a good game for the Eagles fantasy wise. I don't know that i'd call them all winners. They might be winners going into next week against the Giants. Giants very bad. I don't know, man, I don't know if you could trust the Eagles defense because I like them as a stream against the Giants, I mean against the against the Dolphins, they didn't work Man's magic. Yeah, we

got all fings. Oh sorry, if I hurt your ears? Does turn out the Hall of Famers turn Yeah, she certaly does. He's got like twenty one turnovers. I think it sounds bad. It sounds accurate as bad as I said. That wasn't the contact injury calein Bellage was not the only non contact injury um on the day yesterday. We saw that in the Kansas City Oakland game as well. A lot of take out of there when it comes

to their running back situation. As we get you ready for the playoffs, So we'll get in the case and we'll get into Oakland, Frank Uh at AFC BATTLEFC West Battle, which went pretty much as predicted. We'll get into Baltimore and San Francisco. We're gonna take you through all the winners and losers, Um, can you take it? Because I really had to get this off my head. It really hurts Greg Susan attempting to remove the helmet and then again its perfectly fine, all right. That was really hurting

my head out, all right with that? Is your head too big or helmet too small? No? No, I don't know, but it really hurt my head. O. Let's take a break. And I'm gonna need a few minutes to recover, so let's take a break here. We'll come back. We're getting all these games, your winners, your losers in here. They need some water. We're back after this. I want to be the next Daily Fantasy Millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rodal dot com and dominate on

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Had a little difficulty with that Miami Dolphins helmet, of course. One of the big winners from yesterday, your Miami Dolphins, including Ryan Fitzpatrick, Patrick Laird, DeVante Parker out here winning people weeks and getting them into the Fantasy football playoffs all by himself. He has been one of the most

surprising players in fantasy football this season. I would say so if you grabbed any Vantay Parker late in your Bestball drafts, or you picked him up throughout the course of the season, you were likely headed to the playoffs with a wide receiver two of your own. That's right. It took a while, but Devanta Parker is a legitimate

wide receiver too for fantasy football. Before we hit the break, Greg mentioned that a f C West battle between the Los Angeles Chargers, not the Los Angeles Chargs, the Kansas Each Chiefs and the Oakland Raiders. I had the right division, Greg, I had the right division with the a f C West,

not the right teams. But as you mentioned, Kan City Chiefs really annihilated the Oakland Raiders yesterday and Patrick Mahomes didn't even need to have a monster game on just seventy yards and one touchdown rushing touchdown that also, that's true rushing touchdown. Throw that in there. But it wasn't the Patrick Mahomes game we were hoping for. I think there was a little weather that had to do with him not having the game. We all hope. I don't know, man,

he sure the win was bad. He missed Travis Kelsey by this much, we would have a buy right now. He connected it was that much, which cost us a buy in the pit league. But Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs get the job done in a big division matchup against the Oakland Raiders. But's me, the big story of this game is a non contact injury for Daryl Williams. Lashaw McCoy being managed over the last four weeks, a whole lot of Darwin Thompson now before the season starts, Frank,

I know you remember it. Everybody drive the Darwin Thompson. You have the Dea Singletary and like these two guys and Miles Sanders, these three guys are league winners, come Fantasy playoffs. Miles Standers with Jordan Howard out well he's been he's been the primary ball carrier. Devin Singletary. Yeah, Frank Gore is still a thing, but Devin Siglary has been really, really good taking over as essentially the starter in Buffalo. Is it Darwin Thompson time. I'm not sure exactly.

We gotta see what's going on with Damian Williams as well, because there's a chance that he returns. But as you mentioned, Darwin Thompson did lead this team in carries yesterday with Levin lead them with forty four rushing yards a touchdown. It's clear that they don't want to give Lea. Shawn McCoy a big workload. Just five carries yesterday he was saved with a touchdown. In fact, all three of the running backs out were featured yesterday. Between Darwin Thompson, Darryl

Williams and Shawn McCoy, all score touchdowns. They were playing with the lead for a large majority of this game. Obviously, we want exposure to this Chief's team anyway we can get it anyone that has a role on this team. It seems in the past game, you know, a lot of things are concentrated amongst Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. You know, maybe a little bit of Sammy Watkins sprinkled in there, but you don't want anything to do with that.

With the running backs, We're trying to figure this out, and I think when it comes to setting your waivers this week, you should have some interest in Darwin Thompson. If we had interests in Darryl Williams. We've been trying to talk ourselves in and out of Damien Williams and Lashawn McCoy all season long. If he is part of a three headed backfield in one of the best offenses in the league, and I think we do have to have some interests in Darwin Thompson. So I think the

question becomes is what's the role of Darwen Thompson? Right Like, we don't know. Obviously he played the majority of the second half yesterday, but cooy was in and out of the game. Um, we also know the really status Damie Williams didn't really seemed that close to playing this week, but you know, for all we know, he could be back next week with dary Williams unavailable, right Like, That's how often things changed. So well, I'm not great great

spending every time I have left on Darwin Thompson. Yet obviously of all of a sudden, Darryln Damian are both on i R tomorrow. That's a different conversation where waivers run. But Darwin Thompson could be somebody that's we're looking at. We'll talk about that on our Waivers show tomorrow. But we we're getting more winners and losers. And in order to do that, you need to hear this. The BFFs

presents winners. I one losers. You suck. You are one pathetical loser, and I have no idea what's going That's right, Winners and losers in four week number thirteen are on on the NFL. Frank hit on all all those Kansas, and he choose let me go on to the other side of the Oakland Raiders. I was a little bit nervous about Josh Jacobs and it was a great matchup, but it was very, very concerned that game flow get

him out over hundred yards rushing. And that's all Tony Ron want to talk about yesterday, was he has a hundred, he lost hundred, He has a hundred, he lost Audren not it. He's very good, yes, and that I was gonna bring that up as well. I found it very annoying, equally as annoying as you. I was in the process

of driving to my parents house. I go to my parents house every Sunday for dinner, Greg and I'm driving and all I keep hearing was, oh, while he is back under a hundred yards, He's back over a hundred yards. All right, we got it. Josh Jacobs is very good. He is matchup proof. He's going to run efficiently. You know, people talk a lot more about Josh Jacobs throughout the course of the season than they have Derrick Henry, and

I don't think that they are that dissimilar. Josh Jacobs was not targeted a single time in this game, despite the Oakland Raiders playing from behind for a large majority of that still saw a decent workload. Obviously, seventeen carriers for a hundred and four yards. They have a very good offensive line. I think that he is a very good running back in terms of running between the tackles, bouncing things to the outside. I think he has some shiftiness.

I think he can make opposing defenders miss. But he's not used enough as a pass catcher, and we have seen at times this season when they fall behind Josh Jacobs does suffer from you know, negative game script, whereas other workhorse running backs are still used as pass catchers when they are behind in games. Derek Carr and his Raiders offense greg over the past three games, are all losers. They are averaging under ten points per game over their

last three. We'll see if they could get it back on track next week at home against the Tennessee Titans. But overall, I would say that this Oakland Raiders offense recently are just complete losers. H Josh Jacobs yesterday was because he was still solid, But you don't like to see the lack of pass game usage. You know, It's funny because everyone was so quick to crown Oakland and say they got Oakland wrong two weeks ago. I'm not

really feeling that way anymore. No. I remember about a month ago this time, after they beat the Chargers on Thursday Night Football, it was John Gruden is in the running for the Coach of the Year. And you know, at that point he probably was because this team had no expectations coming into this season. But since then, as I mentioned, this offense has just completely sputtered. I do like the fact that John Gruden has at least taken accountability. Greg.

You know, whenever this team doesn't show up, he says, it's on me. I've got to do a better job of, you know, getting this offense going. So he holds himself accountable. That's fine. He's not going anywhere obviously, signed for like the next eight years with Oakland soon to be Las Vegas. So we'll see what they do. But my guess is they probably draft another quarterbacks sooner rather than later. John Gruden wants to be his guy. I don't know that

Derek Hars like Derrek Corey's this guy. I don't know. Derrek car is a problem. They got loads of other problems, specifically defensive very bad. It's very bad. You know what they could use? Probably Blio Mac might help. Oh really, yeah, I've heard of that guy. They can get them pretty pretty good pass rusher mad you know, maybe they can, I don't know, give the Bears two first round picks

for him. You know, it's funny because everyone thought the Raiders were were certainly back, and they were looking past the Jets, which is why they lost the Jets. But they lost to a Jets team that was riding a three game winning stream Whites since NATI team in football, honest seam in football. Who knows what they could be? I know what they could be. The ads are terrible, Frank. The answer is the Jets. Greg. They lost the two

winless teams this year, Frank, not one. Look too. We're talking about a historic franchise right now in the New York Jets. They are breaking history. They're making history week in week out by losing. This is the first time a team has lost to two winless teams that are at least o N seven in the same season in NFL history. Pretty that is historic. So there you go,

your New York Jets. Apologies everybody for telling you to ride the hot Street Jets because someone pointed out pointed this out to me on Twitter that the Cincinnati Bengals defense over the past couple of weeks, I know, don't laugh, They've actually played better. So I'm not making excuses for the Jets. Day did not show up whatsoever. They couldn't get anything going on offense. Robbie Anderson dropped a touchdown yesterday. Still like the targets and the usage for Robbie Anderson

from yesterday. Finally starting to see from volume some volume for him, but that has come at the expense of Jamison Crowder It's just for whatever reason, they haven't been able to get everybody going in the same game, and that falls on Adam Gates. Obviously. There has not been a game all season where Crowder, Ryan Griffin, Robbie Anderson, and Levion Bell have all been able to have success in the same game. And you thought yesterday could have

been one of those times against the Cincinnati Bengals. Next week should be one of those games against the Miami Dolphins, but unfortunately it looks like somebody is going to let you down. So the Jets were big losers. Levian Bell great matchup, huge loser. The only winner from this game is Robby Anderson. Great Robbie Anderson obviously a winner. Jamison Crowder Man is destroyed people over the last couple of weeks,

really really brutal, brutal start for him. On the other side, Tyler Boy did winner for Cincinnati five or fifty nine and a touchdown. Andy Dalton back in the saddle, gets his big receiver of the ball, Joe Mixon not a touchdown as well, So the school position players score Cincinnati any going around the NFL when we return here at the VFS, I want to be the next Daily Fantasy Millionaire.

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diving into these NFL games again to day. Yesterday is a potential Super Bowl preview between the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco four Niners, and rarely doesn't live up to the building this one, dude, it was good. It was a solid game. We saw some scoring all around early on in this game, Greg, and then came to a screeching Hall, but still a very good game, very

competitive game. Back and fourth Lamar Jackson throwing four hundred yards and rushing for a hundred yards again continuing to show off that RB one as a QB one upside here even against one of the tougher defenses in the NFL, in the San Francisco forty Niners. Greg, I think one of the clear storylines of this game is Kevin Coleman wound up being one of the biggest losers weekend of the weekend yesterday, and the usage in this game was

just baffling. Rohan Mostard thirty five snaps, nineteen carries, a hundred and forty six yards a touchdown, also had two targets. Tevin Coleman just eleven snaps, five carries, six yards, one target. He just wasn't good, essentially benched in his game, Greg and Rahee Mostert has flashed some upside. Do you think once they get met Breeda back, which with me next week sounds like it should be week fourteen, because they said he's close, but will hold him out for one

more week. We want him good to go against the New Orleans Saints, mainly because again the Ravens game matters, Yes, but they could beat in the New Orleans Saints there in prime position, the number one overall seed in the in the Do you think both of these running backs from nowould be ahead of Tevin Coleman in the pecking order or is it just purely a hot hand approach? Yeah, so I think what it is. No, most has had a hot hand for a while. Right. He looks real,

He's good, He's a very explosive running back. He looks snifically better than Tevin Coleman for the last few games. I thought, Um, I don't know if this is matchup. I don't know. They feel that certain running backs are better in certain spots, right, like Jeff Wilson's had his spot on the goal line for whatever reason. I don't know. It's hard, like you could want to say that, right, he most are after what he did, this guy could be a league winner. I have no idea. I had

absolutely no idea, And it's so hard. If Rita, Coleman and most are all active next week, it is so hard to start. Don't know any of them. He won't because you know they're gonna rolling the football. You know, if you get it right, you very well could get yourself fifteen twenty fantasy points. But you don't know which one, and it makes it's so damn hard. Yeah, that's exactly right. I think you look so I don't want to say it's a winner. It's like Coleman's a loser. But this

whole situation is such an enemy. Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't label he Moster as a winner, which is weird because he was dominant yesterday. He was awesome seven point seven yards per carry against a good Baltimore Ravens deep fense. But again, this is an a situation because it's just one that's very modeled. It's hard to figure out right now, and I think that they are going to be in

the flex discussion. I would say that, you know, at this point in the season, Greg met Brita and Raheem Most are probably the most explosive of the three running backs. Tevin Coleman has a role and you know, wouldn't surprise me if he randomly comes back out next week and scores two touchdowns. But I think the way things are trending, you have to trust Matt bred and Raheem Most ahead of Tevin Coleman. The way that Tevin Coleman has played recently. Yeah, absolutely,

this amazing. Like two weeks ago, Bred ago, three weeks ago, Brida goes downright Wow, Tevin Coleman already one, you're feeling great and four touchdown game was years ago. So long as wild um other winners from the San Francisco side, do you have any because I don't. I wouldn't call Deebo Samuel winner. I think that he's a great player, but again, his target share is still so low. I mean, not necessarily his target share, so he saw four target

it's on twenty one past attempt for Jimmy Garoppolo. But you know, when the San Francisco forty Niners are at their best, they don't want to throw the ball that much. They want to run the football as many times as they did with Forhee most or yesterday and get other players involved as well. So I think Deebo Samuel is a good player. We saw that yesterday. He is not just a yak receiver. We saw him, you know, body Marcus Peters and make a contested catch and score a

touchdown on that play. I think he's a very good player. But until his targets are a little bit more consistent, I don't know that we could trust him as anything more than a solid wide receiver three greg So I wouldn't consider Deebo Samuel a winner myself. Yeah, I said there's no winners. Like I said, there's not a single one. Manuel Sanders did lead this team in targets with six, which made me feel good as a Sanders owner. That's kind of back. This is a good Sanders game. I

mean it was the right matchup. I thought for him, he's a safety valut he's a reliable wide receiver. That's it. George could have a huge loser yesterday. That sucks. Yeah, definitely. Did you need him to show up in these big spots? I know there's so much riding on this week for people to get into the fantasy football playoffs. Just four targets for him, two receptions, seventeen yards and if you were watching that game, it seemed like Baltimore. You know

that that was there. That's what they were trying to do. That was their game plan, is that they were trying to take George Kittle away from the San Francisco forty Niners and just take him out of that game and let everyone else beat them. And that's exactly what they were ready to do yesterday, Greg And unfortunately it came at the expense of his owners that really needed a

big game. Yeah, no doubt about it. On the other side, Lamar Jackson, Well, it wasn't the biggest Lamar Jackson game for a passive perspective, but why is the best playering in fantasy andrew yards rushing yesterday for Lamar Jackson. Touchdown on the ground, touchdown through the air, there's no better player than him. Mark Andrews scores the only touchdown of the day through the air for Baltimore. He's a big winner. You know, you couldn't rely on any of these wide receivers.

Mark Ingram bit of a losing yesterday and mark Ingram still saw a big workload here, right, So they had twenty two running back carries and he saw fifteen of them, so he actually saw a large majority of their running back carriage from yesterday. It's it was just again, it was a tougher matchup against San Francisco, and I'm not really you know, it doesn't change how I view marketing room. I still think easy high end RB two that's gonna have a lot of scoring opportunities because this team gets

inside the reds on a lot. They are the best offense in the NFL right now, and when they get into that area of the field, they tend to rely a lot on Lamar Jackson and mark Ingram. So down game from yesterday, but doesn't really change how I view I totally agree marketing from somebody that I want for the Fantasy playoffs, somebody that I will be on next year as well. Email that one Frank. Uh, well, I

was obviously not on marketing doesn't happen often. So it happens often, just you know, not as often as we would like. It seems fair we don't go Ryan downe ul Now you know what we're really not We we kind of glossed over Mike Kasecki. We didn't talk about him enough. Should we Should we go back to Mike Gasecki? Right? I don't think we need to do that because I'm pretty sure I have some text in my phone of you saying that Mike Kasecki stinks. Uh, probably emphatic. I

probably had a bunch words about beside sinks. Back to back games in a touchdown, Greg, Yes, Mike Sey very very good. He's a winner. Yes, he's a winner. That's all I wanted to hear that, like a second is a winner. I got it wrong. He's been good, he's a been reliable. So when he does get the Jets next week with Ryan Fitzpatrick back in the saddle, he's undeniably been good in a winner. Let's go use Mica

Ski against the Jets. Run downhill now, sure, sure, Ryan Tannehill, let the time to do a thirty one seventeen victory yesterday for the time game they were winners. Ryan tadne Hill, Yeah, yeah, it was an at performance. He wasn't great from a fantasy perspective, put up right around thirteen fourteen fantasy points. I apologize Greg because I told you to use him over Matt Ryan. It's okay, Frank and listen. Well that's there, you go, that's what That's what you're supposed to do. Right.

So we do this a lot where we are we just tell people, Okay, we like Ryan Tannehill this week. You're supposed to listen to us. Are advice what we say, the way that we break it down. But ultimately you make your own decision. If you have a feeling like all right, you know Tannehill has been solid, but I'm still gonna trust Matt Ryan, then go with that feeling. So Greg, you you ultimately played it the right way. I think that the Titans didn't really need Tannehill to

do much in his game. It was the Derrick Henry show once again. You know, over the past three weeks, this guy is averaging right around a hundred and forty rushing yards per game, scoring a ton of touchdowns. Again, we look, we said this about Derrick Henry last week. It seems like we could just put it on repeat at this point, Greig, where you know he doesn't catch passy and come in throughout the day he has repeat as it's it's very excited about the Titans, very excited

about Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry doesn't catch passes, but fantasy points are fantasy points, and this guy sees so many carries and he runs so efficiently and he sees so much work in the red zone that he can you know, outweigh not catching passes from a fantasy perspective. So Derrick Henry has been also him Uh not really the game we were hoping for obviously from A. J. Brown. But good matchup next week against Okland Raiders. So I will go back to the well with Tannehill and A J.

Brown again next week. But yeah, they weren't great from a fantasy perspective. They were not on the other side without t Y Hilton, without very Ibron. You asked you actually last week and he started Jack passially, like here did that? If you're desperate, Yes, I asked you gonna start Jack Doyle. Absolutely, he's a top ten tight end. He was. Zack Pascal was great seven for one on nine. Jack Doyle was great six for seventy three and a touchdown as we saw in New England on Sunday night.

We'll get to that code after the break. Quarterbacks rely on who they know and who they can trust. Right now in the Indianapolis offense, that he's Jack Doyle and then his Zack Pascal. Yeah, absolutely, And I was on the Jack Doyle receiving prop from yesterday. He hit his receiving and reception prop in course half of that game yesterday. And the targets share just massive for Jack Toyal here eleven targets, six receptions, seventy three yards and a touchdown.

We knew, we know that Jakobe Risset likes to toward of the tie end. Now there's basically now just one tight end. Yes, mo Ali Cox is on the team, but Jack Doyle is the go to guy. And if t Y Hilton cannot suit up heading into Week fourteen, then Zach Pascal makes for a very very good pickup because he's going up against the Tampa Bay Bucks. In Week fourteen. He had ten targets himself, led this team with seven receptions and a hundred and nine yards. Jack

Doyle and Zack Pascal big winners from week thirteen. Greg on the coat side of things, one of the biggest losers from Yesser Williams Man. What happened yesterday was not running efficiently and they basically just turned it over to everybody else. Jordan Wilcolm Wilkins eleven carries, forty seven yards. Nahem Hines even had a few carriers scored a goal line touchdown. You know, there's so many running back by committees in the NFL. Right now, we just spoke about

the forty niners. The Colts are another one without Marlon Mack. We'll see if he's good to go heading into week fourteen, but if he's not, Greg, it seems like this is just another one of those modeled situations. Really, really, the matchup isn't great against Tampa. The run defense is not as good as it was earlier in the year, and it's not very good. But it's not certainly not cakewalk

or anything like that. So tough spot ready Colts running backs not named Marlin Back next week when we were starting, let's get into something night football between the Texas and the Patriots where another game that we head wrong and we'll get everything else we missed for Thanksgiving weekend. I also have an update on my league which is nuts. I'll tell you about it next. I want to be

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com backslash dunk to learn more. All right, so we will, so we will get into some of night football in just a moment. I remember I told you on off the air and on the air, how not throwing a game manipulating in a way when we get to Monday night could be something interested in doing. Right, we talked about that. We see how the chips felt. As I mentioned the top two teams in my league we're playing each other. The winner had the winner gets the first

overall seed. They both have buys and when it gets the first overall seed makes some money. UM, and all all four teams from three to six, we're all tied of seven and five. As it turns out, all four teams that are at seven five, including me, we're protected to lose this week through all teams out of the playoffs. It's just kind of injury is kind of cool. I mean, I'm losing, but maybe when if David Cook has a

big game, I could win. Fine. So, as I said to you off the air with Dane, then there was one teams stifically I wanted to play in the next round. I didn't really have a huge lean in the first round. If it is what it is, I'll let the trips fallow they made. But it was definitely a team that I wanted to play if possible UM in the second round, and I'm in the position where I could I'm either going to come if I win my matchup, I'll come in third. If I lose my matchup by coming to fourth,

that's that. That is what it is now. So I can manipulate which side of the bracket I want to be on and I can do something, but I don't have to do any of that. Why because the two teams that have to buy one of them. Forgot that you make money for first place overall. And despite not knowing who was going to be seated where because again all teams three through six or seven and five, god knows whether they're gonn finish. Who would win this week,

who would lose this week? He benched his entire team on Sunday. I've never seen anything like this, and I want to kick him out of the league. That's where I'm at with us. He wanted the two seed rather than one seed because he wanted to play certain teams even though nothing was set. It seems a little contradictory here, Greig, because isn't this is something that you are trying to do it yourself and to manipulate the seating benching the entire year entires. Okay, Greg, So let me ask you this.

If you had a chance to by playing Dalvin Cook tonight, win and face the seed that you don't want to face, or you can bench Dalvin Cook and lose to face the team you do want to face, what would you do? I would bendin Cook. Okay, So it's the same exact thing, being the same thing. Your entire thing this is contradictory. You don't think your entire team is different than benjing

one player Whenday Night football. It's the same thing you're trying to You are benching your best player in Dalvin Cook, in order to manipulate seating for fantasy football purposes. I don't think that what he did is any different than what you are proposing yourself. Okay, and now you will take it back. No, I mean just because I say it doesn't mean that it's gospel. It doesn't mean that it's the right answer. You're just saying. In my eyes, it seems okay. I just thought very I just thought

bending your entire team was different. Like he got a zero this week. I mean, that is it's quite ridiculous. I've never heard of that myself ever. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. I don't I don't know that I would kick the guy out of the league because of it, because then I think you'd probably have to kick yourself out of the league. I have done anything, but I mean, you did propose that you would do something like that.

As turns out, this is why I said to you last week, like there are so many things that are going to change, like you're gonna try and predict things that are gonna happen, and in time you get to this point and it is now on Monday, I can predict it, right, I have all the information just to me. I don't know. Maybe it's I'm just a traditionalist of

fantasy football. You like Ryan Tannehill is the daughter. No, I'm just like I would just play my best players and try and finish as the highest seat as I possibly can. And these things have a way of working themselves out. Man, I'm telling you, fantasy karma is real, dude. Like there's no data behind that, but it's real. You try and manipulate these things, these things, and the next thing you know, you end up screwing yourself. Man, your

lead is kind of crazy. Man. It's crazy, buddy, it's wild. It was also crazy last night Sunday Night Football. The Texans and the Patriots, Bill Brian Shaw Watson, they thrashed this. Damn. It's about time. It's about time Bill O'Brien got off the schneide and gets his first win against Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots. While we're talking about getting quarterback rankings wrong, Greg, sorry about the Shawn Watson, everybody. I mean, look, I think everyone that you asked would

not have expected a game like this. Two thirty four passing here, that's fine, not great. Nine point four yards per attempt, that's very good. Three passing touchdowns against this Patriots secondary. Thrashing is the right word, because that's exactly what they did. Shawn Watson also had a receiving touchdown from DeAndre Hopkins that was actually a really awesome play too. Weren't so awesome it didn't work by the way, Bill O'Brien, it wouldn't have been so awesome and only should have

saved that for the playoffs. Just you know, he didn't come up with that, right, who did? DeAndre Hopkins and Shawn Watson amongst them. They went over to Bill O'Brien during the bio. He was like, hey, look at this, Well, it's pretty impressive. It was because it worked. It was a little spin on the Philly special, right, not at all ended off to running back. And then and then he's in an option play. Right, that's not a Philly special.

That's an option. It's pretty cool. It's got a really dumb If it doesn't work, sure, but at that point I guess you're like, that's a luxury that you have, right, because they're playing with the lead. At that point they were up big ready, I don't think they're on big. I believe it was like it was fourteen three. It's not huge. I mean they could come back from that. It wasn't this last touchdown last might have been up and then the last night shown was Kenny Stills. Now

it could be wrong either way. I could be wrong too, obviously, but yeah, no, I thought it was a creative play. Was cool. I think a clear winner in this game greg was Duke Johnson. Yes, because he ran way more efficiently than Carlos Hide. And you know, there are a lot of underlying metrics. I've tweeted about them all season long. Drink about how Duke Johnson is in more drinking, not because he tweeted we're drinking because underlying metrics continue. Is

that true? Yes, I said to drink because of I mentioned tweeting we're drinking. Underlying metrics. Well, Duke Johnson has been a more efficient runner, higher yards after contact per attempt. He is a better elusive running back than Carlos Hide. And I've been begging for this to happen all season long. It's a little bit too late, unless, of course, you're still alive in the playoffs. But you love the target share here. Five receptions, fifty four yards and a touchdown.

They nearly had the same amount of carries, and the broadcast was talking about how Bill O'Brien wants to get Duke Johnson more involved. So it took a while. Maybe he was saving him for this time of the year, Greg, but whatever it is, Duke Johnson is a clear winner here. We were not sure what to expect him. DeAndre Hopkins on on Sunday night. Ye, Hopkins was fine and Kenny

Stills was great thanks to a call back Will Fuller touchdown. Uh, John Wasson has all of his wide receivers last night, and this is as bad as Texas look last week against Baltimore. It was really good last night. Yeah, and this is some of the the boom bust that we see out of out of Will Fuller, you know, because one week, from one week to the next, we see a monster game against the Indianapolis Colts and then this one he ends up dropping eight touchdown. I mean he

should have caught, he was open. It was a perfect throw. He was in position to make that play, ended up dropping it. But ultimately, yes, Will Fuller has a big upside, Greig, but also a huge downside. He was a big loser from yesterday. On the other side for the New England Patriots, Tom Brady has been very honest and said, listen, the shength of our teams, our defense, and our special teams.

Special teams almost say the game with an honest kick recovery last night that went right off Brandon Bolton's hands. This offense not great, Bob. I talked about earlier, um, just a few moments ago, that when your entire team is decimated, you go to who you rely on, right and that was Jack Doyle and Zach Pascal in the Indianapolis Colts. The case that he was in the Patriots all the time Brady has to rely on right now, that's because his name is injured, because they stink. Is

Julian Edelman and James White. And that's all this offense is Frank Julian Edelman and James White. Yeah, it's exactly right, man and James White. He saw all the work on the ground as well, fourteen carries. While you were talking, I was trying to look up when the last time James White had fourteen carries in a game there and come back without the entire games so he was the field the entire second half that that's actually a career high. That is a career high in Russian attempts with four teen.

So you're right, I mean they were playing from behind and they were just running this hurry up. The Patriots are playing from behind all games. Yeah, and James White was just on the field and you know, much like well Fuller. This is why you know, we recommend Patriots running back Moore as best ball options because trying to predict this on a weekly basis. You know, we bench James White in the league yesterday is this there's no way to know on paper. Good match we to Texans

because they struggle against pass catching running backs. But it was a good matchup last week for James White as well, and he didn't come through. He scored less than one Fantasy point. This week he has over thirty Fantasy points. So this comes with the territory of the Patriots and their running backs. Julian Edelman very good, twelve targets, six catches, a hundred yards of touchdown that pitch and catch at the end of the game, one of the easiest touchdown

catches I've seen in a long time. So you continue to trust Julian Edelman whether or not he's questionable, it doesn't matter. He has to go to guy for Tom Brady. Greg I will now bring something up and you will tell me how ridiculous I am. Oh, I can't wait. What are the chances that with this offense playing as bad as they are, there are in the locker room. In the locker room, there's not amongst management because they're

not gonna want to bring back Antonio Brown. But this offense as is right now, can they trust them going into the playoffs as is the way that they have played the past couple of weeks. That question is fair, and should we pick up Antonio Brown? No, I just thought I would bring it up, read about it somewhere, not having the conversation. But I don't think that it's

completely ludicrous because you can't bring Antonio Brown. Patriots offense is bad, it's not good, Josh Gordon, if you wanted to, they could have, But Josh Gordon's not making a difference with Seattle. You could give Rob Gun county ten million dollars to come back to Brown could still play. That we know Greg Josh Gordon. I think that's a little that's in question. We don't know actually how good Josh Gordon is at this point. I understand that and why

Antonio Brown could play. He's got way more off field issues right now. They are more important that football. Okay, Yeah, I mean look that I am not disagreeing with whatsoever. I mean, the guy's got a lot going on, clearly, clearly, But I'm just saying there have been times where teams don't really care about morals and ethics and what's going on off the field. They want to win. I get it.

So I get just thought that this time they cut bring it up, they cut him because those issues are serious enough, right It's just how how desperate are they, you know, to try and improve this offense. And that's the only thing that's going on in my mind, because this offense is bad, and I think you cannot They might see the writing on the wall here that as great as their defense has been, starting to show some some cracks in the armor, this offense is not something

that's gonna be able to carry this team. But maybe with Antonio Brown, it might be able. I don't know, it's not an option, all right. You want to talk about decimation, right, and that the Patriots got decimated last night,

but the Los Angeles Rams also had some decimation. A big comeback performance for the Rams against the Arizona Cardinals um very obviously get me right game for Jared Goff, who, along with Robert Woods and Gooper Cup did everything they damn well pleased Robert Wood's nineteen targets, thirteen receptions a hundred and seventy two yards. He is firmly back in that wide receiver to wide receiver three discussion based on

that worklood from yesterday. Obviously, it was a good matchup, and we said that know last week we were talking about golf, that this is gonna be a get right spot for this offense. Patrick Peterson not the player that he wants was. This Cardinal secondary even with him, has been one of the worst in the NFL all season long golf throws over four hundred yards, nearly ten yards

per attempt, two passing touchdowns, no turnovers. I'm not ready to say that the Rams offenses back because it was a great matchup, but I'm ready to say that I think Jared Goff is close to the QB one discussion heading into next week's matchup with Seattle. I understand it's a big game, divisional game, but I'm not really worried about Seattle secondary. I don't think that they are a very good defense. Um, I'm gonna trust Robert Woods in

that game. You're gonna trust Cooper Cup. Everybody was great in this game, Greg, except one random Cooks. Man. It's over for Brandon Cooks, at least for this season. You know, I'm not gonna completely right right off. I think he's a good football player, but for this season, I think it's probably over. I agree with you. I agree. It's I mean, for them to put up thirty four points and this one's offense and him to you absolutely nothing, it's over. Any interesting Tyler Higbee or is this just

a Cardinals are that bad against tight ends? Because if Gerald Everett is out again next week, the Seattle Seahawks have struggled against tight ends, which means Tyler Higbee could be back in the streaming discussion. It's possible, but again it was the Cardinals, so it's like whatever, Um, I don't take that. I don't think it's a streaming tight end. I think whoever the Cardinals face, did you stream their kind of Vance McDonald next week, Greig, I really don

duck Steelers. How about the Steelers big winners? I got a Pittsburgh Steelers playoff ticket, Greggy, So let's go duck. Let's go duck, baby, Let's go duck. All right, we'll hit the waiver wire tomorrow. He is Frank Saville. I am Greg Sausen. Thank you so much for watching, listening to VFS at the window and wait your talk or next we'll do it all in tomorrow, we hope. I want to be the next Daily Fantasy Millionaire. Dunk on your NBA DFS competition with Daily Rotal Duncan and dominate

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I personally asked him to take down Jurassic Forest for your boy so I could get the boy. And he put up one sixty five. So well done. Count the money? How did I do that? I win? I think you're winning, man, I think you're you got a good shot to get in here. You put up like one sixties something too. Oh damn, it's like my best week of the year. Yeah, you get me. And I think I needed. I think I needed to win. I needed. It's certain I'm gonna

point or someone else to lose. I think I might have need a you're playing the guy that George needs to lose. I think you can thank me later. Man, we gotta see what happens tonight. Obviously tonight you have it's Lice Davis who made a great run. Now in the good squad league. I mean, here's what you missed on the BFS. Where should we start? I mean the place I want to start, and I don't know the right answer. I guess we can start. It's subjective. I don't think that there is a right as there like

right answer right. I think it Dolphins right is in general, but the biggest winners in every way A story today yesterday Milami Dolphins as they should be down to touchdowns affilately. They scored five straight times and they need they passed that helmet over here. Let's get the Dolphins helmets right here on the show, right now, on the set, Greg's gonna attempt to put Oh my god, it's like you're to end up hurting yourself very severely there. Greg is

loaded up with the Dolphin. Let's go Dolphins. All you need is some facial hair and it's basically Ryan Fitzpatrick over at to gumming out my wedding ring. One. I was a play. I'm good. Dolphins were probably the biggest literally figuratively for real life for fantasy football. DeVante Parker basically when anybody who started him this week helped a

lot of people get into the fantasy football playoffs. He helped Eric Young beat us a game that decided who was going to get to buy heading into the pit League playoffs. So we'll talk a little bit about that. But Davanta Parker was awesome. Greg right, Fitzpatrick was very good. I think that he is a stream next week as well. That special teams play was dancle is, Greg. That was awesome. It's obviously reminded me of the Colts play that Chuck

mcgano's You're up so terribly previously on fourth down. But the same thing, right, like all the line that are out wide, there's a kicker and a punzer in the middle, like what's happening, I'm sorry, snapper in a punzer in the middle, and then the punts down. I would say it's a little bit easier to pull off on the goal line than in the middle of the fiord. But it was awesome all the way around. Patrick Laird, I

think is a winner from me. Were talking about Patrick Laird in the on the hurry of how he's worth running back to the Dolphins. I realized he's not easy fifth running back. We've talked about picking up on Dolphins this year. Al right, we spoke about moles gassing, but no, it's all about Patrick Laird, the dominator, as I termed him. Why wouldn't it be Patrick Layer? Patrick Layard? What's the

thing now? Huh? Why not? Kind of I mean, look, it's hard for the Dolphins to his official nickname the intern. That's right. I saw they were talking about that on the broadcast sesterday. They called them the intern and then they're like, oh, well, I guess now he has a full time job. Oh you heard it. Yes, indeed, but he still carries five yards of the average dominantor the average half a yard per carry. Look, this team cannot run the football because their offensive line is very bad.

They trail in a lot of games. Actually amazing to me that you have a straight face while talking to me. Why look at me? It's probally fine. I feel you should do every show with a helmet on. You don't go to get this off. No, you're deaf onally like that for the rest of this show and probably going into our holiday party tonight. He was bad. I love it,

and I think everyone else will too. Patrick Leard will never be able to run efficiently, but he is a good pass catcher at ninety six perceptions over his last two years at Cal and considering they can't run the football, I think they're probably just gonna throw him a lot of short passes moving forward. I don't feel good about Calumballage non contract, non contact leg injury, So I don't I don't think he's gonna be out there next