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the consequences. Do Dinity do dinnit? Yeah, right now, Welcome your Friday from dun My god, Rob, say Francis Franky stand ball ladies and tell them in your p with that we want to do inside of Studio thirty four. This is the BFFs his Frank staff for I am Greg Sauceman are he was having? Greggy? I wish I could say happy Monday. It's not really the happiest of Mondays here today. Obviously we'll get into everything that happened over the weekend. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing
it right, man, I'm doing it right. Didn't uh didn't sleep great last night? I found whatever. It's awkward, but I found whatever. Uh. I watched the pay per view. Before I go to bed, my mind wanders. You get amped. I always been amped up by adrenaline rushing from the Royal. The adrenaline. It's like me thinking of the possibilities of a how it will get screwed up, what I liked, and be like, what they will do, what they should do? And then my mind then turns to work, and then
I was like, I can't sleep. And then you wake up a bunch of times thinking about work, and then the next thing you know, there's the alarm. There's the alarm, six am. What is six am for you? Six thirty? All right? Well, yeah, I did catch the end of The Royal Room, but I didn't watch it in its I watched so I had basically a lot of just brock Lessner and Drew mcintier. I thought it was awesome. I thought the Royal was really cool. I I watched
that was amazing. Spoiler alert for those that haven't watched. UM So I had a pause it in the end of the Daniel Bryan match because I was the fellow of Mike for like an hour, hour, one minute to be exact, and so I had the earpiece on my laptop watching that that after the call, and we had the Grammys on the big TV and that was our night.
Grammys weren't so good, you know the best. You know the best though, when I'm married to my wife because any of these like big events that are on the Sunday night, the Oscars, Grammys, uh, NFC Championship game, that that kind of stuff. She's like, all right, So I guess we're just like gonna make wings, right, Like, yeah, yess we are. So we go to the supermarket. We buy some wings and buy wings for the Grammys. Interesting,
it was awesomely more so for the Royal Rumble. But sure they fell on the same night, exactly right, That's what I would have done WrestleMania. I'm sure we'll buy wings. So we go to supermarket, we buy wings, we toss them in our own franks, in our own ranks, right, buy some Karason Celery, get some blue cheese. I'm married. There you go. It's awesome. It all works out. It was. It was awesome. Um, are you well? I mean, aside from the obvious not great, obviously, Greg, I mean everything
that happened this weekend. I don't know if you want to jump into it right now. Obviously, yeah. I mean, listen, we're let's not being around the bush um to any of this. So I'll say from my fresh back of what what's going on? And then you could you can time and we're gonna spend a lot of time talking about Kobe Bryant. You can see behind us Kobe's two
numbers probably switching, but eight and twenty four um. And I was watching Maryland yesterday and I saw this on the air and in game line when I called in when I was watching the Turfs and I got home from the mall um and I put my phone to the counter and I'm watching Maryland and they were the normal disaster that they normally are if they're getting up fourteen. They went down to those points and I was cursing and yelling and then they had like a big three ys.
All right, let me up my phone and see what my you know, my Maryland friends are saying. And here was to know that you see Kobe. And my other friend that was watching the games, did she see Kobe? Like, oh yes, I turned away for a moment and like I didn't see him at the in the Anna Maryland game is whenever I missed I was like it was weird that Kobe has had an Indiana Maryland game, but okay, sure he likes basketball, big guy. And then Mike texted me,
and this is truly how I found out. Mike texted me a screenshot of in Game Live what we had on at that time, and I was gonna. I was going to tune in. I was gonna, you know, I was watching Game Live after Maryland because I was exciting to find you know, talk about it, and it said what happened to Kobe? Kobe Bryant died, And I was like, you just get you say it, you get goose bumps, you say it, you get chills. And then I realized
what was going on. I couldn't believe it, and you I felt bad because there's four minutes left in the Maryland game. I felt bad, like reacting to that game how I would any game where I was cheering and yelling and screaming and booing and crying and that all that stuff. Because somebody just died and wound up being nine people just died. It was very, very sad. Now, as I said on in Game Live yesterday, I feel bad for Kobe. Of course I feel heartbroken, but it's
it's his thirteen year old daughter, Joanna. That's just that's what crushes me. Um, his wife Vanessa, his other three children, a baby that this is hard to say. We'll never know who her father is. That is so so sad. Were there anything else in the world? And I just put this cloud over the entire day on Sunday, And when I was I joined the game live yesterday and I gave my thoughts and when I contacted you, Frank
to do the same. We wanted all of her how especially the ones that covered the NBA like you and I do. Were watching NBA like you and I do, to discuss You go, I don't know what I could do it without being emotional. I go, well, then you're the right person to have on because hit you. Uh it hit you very hard? Yeah it, dude. And you know I'm not gonna try not to sound overly dramatic
about this. Obviously, this is a huge tragedy and thoughts and prayers with all the families that are involved, not just the Bryant family obviously, as you mentioned, Kobe and his thirteen year old daughter involved in this tragedy. But yeah, look, the reason why I got into sports originally started playing basketball. It's my favorite sport. It was it was the first sport that I ever played, you know, four or five years old, right around the time that Kobe came into
the league. I mean everybody has their idols and their favorite athletes and their favorite celebrities, and mine was Kobe. That's not just I'm not just saying that you knew this beforehand. It's it's always been Kobe. A lot of people look up to Derek Jeter. Again, it was this was a time period that I was growing up in, so, uh, he was my guy. Kobe was my guy. So this this was a tough one yesterday to to really tough pill to swallow. Obviously, had to just like sit down
for like ten minutes. Couldn't even I didn't want to want to go on Twitter. I had to get out of the house, you know, go to the park actually, like went to go play basketball, like shoot around a little bit because I didn't want to keep reading about it. I had to get my mind off of it do something else. So yeah, that was you know how I spent the majority of the day. It doesn't even it
doesn't feel real today still. Um, again, it's just an unbelievable tragedy, and not just for Kobe again, it's the nine people that were involved, all the families that are involved here too. There was another child on board. I mean, they were going to his daughter's back basketball game. They were and and he had done this countless times already
in the month of January. Everything that I've read like he's he uses helicopters to get around um because it's frankly, it's quicker, and it's something he's done, you know, seemingly so many times and nothing has ever happened. And obviously what happened yesterday it was just you know, it takes not just the sports world by storm, Greg, it takes the entire world by storm. Everyone acknowledges it. It's the impact that he had not only on basketball, but athletes
all around the world. You know, Naymar scores a goal and he's throwing up the two four and you're hearing chance break out at the at the Pro Bowl yesterday, and you know, teams taking the second violation to start off NBA games yesterday, which in my opinion, I understand that there's a lot of sponsors, is a lot of money involved, but I don't think that basketball players are playing basketball yesterday in the NBA. That's just personally my opinion.
And we could talk about talk about this more after the break. I mean his legacy as talent um, what he did on the court. Talk more about when we get back more of your bff's life legacy, Kobe Bryant. Look about it next time. NFL season is now upon us, so you can become the eighth person away one million dollars in a FanDuel Draft Kings tournament by setting their lineups using the Daily Order dot Com DFS line of optimizer. If you're playing Kailey Fantasy Sports and not using Daily
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mega story superstar. He was the man for our entire childhood for so many people, our age, that includes celebrities, that includes all athletes, that includes just fans. I mean, he was the guy and he said as you mentioned, like you looked up to he was your guy, and you know, him perishing like that was unspeakable in all honesty, And I will say this, I wanted to want to get this one off my chest for a while. Kobe Bryant is a fantastic basketball player, unbelievable, basketbayer, one of
the top last basketball players of all time. He's one of the top competitors of all time. But I don't know Kobe Bryant the man. I don't know Kobe Bryant the guy. And you see the statements from people like Derek Jeter and Michael Jordan's say how how how much he cared for his daughters and his wife and everything You've seen, like he is a fantastic father coaching his daughter in basketball, wanting her to go to Yukon, and
it's out the world ablaze playing basketball. But I do find it hard in all honesty, Franks who forget Whobie's past and transgressions. That is a part of him, that is a part of his legacy, And even on a day like today and the Daily yesterday, I don't think it's fair for that to be forgotten either. I don't think that you could just look at somebody and take one side of the coin and not at least acknowledge
that the other part existed. And I don't think a lot of people are just sweeping that under the rug. It's just hard to bring that up in in this time of tragedy, right, Like, I don't think people are
forgetting anything that Kobe Bryant has done. And I thought that Gabe kind of laid us out nicely earlier on today, on the morning after, he said by all accounts, he was pushing for women's basketball and trying to help his daughter, you know, potentially carry on the Kobe Bryant legacy, right And I saw an awesome clip from Jimmy Kimmel where, you know, Jimmy Kimmel asked him, Uh, well, you don't have a you don't have a son, you don't have
someone to carry on your legacy. And he's like, yeah, people ask me that all the time when my daughter is around and she just looks at them and says, no, that's me, Like, I'm going to carry on the legacy like she wanted to play basketball and maybe even professionally one day in the w n b A. But perhaps, you know, everything that Kobe has done in the past couple of years in terms of, you know, trying to to push women's basketball and be around with his family,
it doesn't look it doesn't make it doesn't take away anything that he's ever done, obviously, And I see what you're saying in that regard, Greg, And you know, I'm not gonna I don't think anyone is just gonna sweep down under the rug and just forgive Kobe for that, because you know that's not how it should be, you know obviously, Um, you know, people make mistakes, but it still doesn't make it right. So I see what you're
saying in that regard. But but for me, again, like it's harder for me because so much of how I looked at Kobe was because of the athlete, right, because of what we saw in the court and and the competitiveness and the fire and the way that he played and never back down attitude and always wanted the ball and crunch time and willing to take on any assignment, guard any player, take any shot, uh, shooting threes, mid range,
driving to the rack. I mean, that's just so much of what I remember, you know, trying to emulate that on a basketball court. You know, a little ten year old, little white Frank trying to like beat Kobe on the court. Like you know, it's just that's who I looked up to the player. I hear what you're saying. Um, it's it's hard for me to to separate the two in this moment, obviously because I helped him so so near and dear, like I have his book, I've read his book,
The MoMA Mentality. Um, I hear what you're saying. But but overall, it's still a tough day. Like no matter how you want to look at it, like it's it's it's a tough it's just all around, no matter how you want to look at it, it's just tough situation. Yeah, I listen, of course, it's a very very sad situation. How much Kobe means to a lot of people like yourself, And you know, I don't, for whatever reason, I don't
get attached like that too. Celebrities like I harging back how you felt yesterday, Frank to when when Mac Miller died and you told you and Florio both like this is a really tough day and I didn't get it, you know, and not honestly right, Like I don't have that relationship with anybody. You can tell me a God forbid. Whatever the athlete growing up that I grew up with was was Derek jet and Eli Manning, right, and God forbid didn't happen to them, Like I don't have that attack.
Oh my god, Derrek Jeter. But that's not me. And I think I'm in the minority in that, because there's a lot more people that can pinpoint what their favorite athlete or superhero or celebrity or whoever they look up to outside of their personal family, of course, means to them. My wife Judy, it's like if said told me somebody yesterday that she would lose it, right, because that something much they meant to that person had. So I understand that side of it, even though even if I personally can't,
I can't get there. What Kobe meant for basketball was so so grand um he was born and bred to do this generational player. He was a generation, and it was m J, it was Kobe, and then it was Lebron. I mean, he was the bridge between the two. He was the late nineties, the early two days, kind of
was the face of basketball during that time. Crazy. We never got the Lebron Kobe final, Yeah, and we should have got it, and we were robbed of it the year that the Orlando Magic made it over the Cleveland Cabs, and I remember rooting for that at the time, like everybody was. Everybody wants Kobe versus Lebron. I mean, it's it's the passing of the torch almost right, and no one knows how it would have played out. Obviously, Lebron
didn't have the best supporting cast at the time. That's why he didn't end up not making the finals, and it would have been tremendous to see that. But you're right, I mean, we never got it. We never we never knew we had we got. We had some nice one on one matchups between the two. I remember a game, don't Maybe it was five years ago. It was Kobe hits a game winner against Miami six five, maybe even longer than that, yet it was when Lebron was on
the heat. It was like that Big Three. It was just a huge game, was nationally televised game and Kobe hits the game winner, and it was like it was the twilight of Kobe's career, you know, it was you know, early to mid thirties at that point, and it was just it was awesome to see like he still got it right against Lebron, who we knew. We saw like Lebron his blossoming into the best player in the NBA.
So that was really cool to watch and then tearing his achilles and coming back from that at the age that he did in his mid thirties. Yeah, there's no one else like I mean from a from a basketball perspective, it's you know, you hear him go down in arguments all the time, right m J or Kobe and you know, I was one of the greatest players of all time. It's you know, you can't really have that conversation without Kobe Bryant being part of it. And look, he was.
He was a different animal, man like, the way that he operated on the court. It was just killer instinct. And Gabe mentioned it to like, people didn't like him. I get it, man like in his younger age, even two I think, really, I don't think he really started to figure it out until like after he retired, like he started to see more of the human side of Kobe Bryant. I agree with that. He was like he was almost like a savage beasts on the court, and like just even the way that he would interact, like
with his teammates, he didn't have friends. I mean he would throw guys under the bus. I mean he's playing, he's dropping eighty one, He's got some mushed Parker in his line up, He's got Chris mim and his starting lineup. He didn't have anybody at that time. It was Kobe and that was it. He was alone, and I think that that's how he felt for a majority of his career, even playing along someone like Hall of Famer in Shack,
I mean they didn't get along. I mean you you know all the words each of them said about each other. I think that you do someone very special to get along with. Kobe Bryant um ruined Dwight Howard's psyche, that's for sure. And we know that the down inturn that he took people like rought our tests now relationships, it's almost the complete opposite of what you see in the NBA today where everyone's friends, right Lebron helping guys up, right,
And not to say that that's wrong, it's just different friends. Yeah, like it's different. But we didn't want like aside from okay, there was trade rumors. Kobe wanted out. He didn't want to play alongside Shack. He wanted to prove that he was a guy. It was just a different mentality, right, Like you throw on the term momba mentality, but that's really how he played, right. It was me versus the world.
That was it. He didn't want to play with he didn't want friends, he didn't want superstars to join him. That's not how he wanted to play. It was he was just different man. And it's just completely opposite of the way the game is played now. You know. It's these guys are a lot more friendly, and they work out together and they trained together, and it's it's just completely different than the way the game was played. And here it all the time the nineties where everyone's clothes
lining each other. And you know, people didn't like Jordan either, And I think, you know, Kobe really tried to model his game a lot after Kobe, I mean after Michael Jordan, and there are highlights where you'll see like they literally
had the same exact moves side by side. So yeah, it's uh, it's tough man, the player, the competitor, the man that he was, the man that looked like he was turning into it's and and we'll never be able to see that, you know again, forty one years old and lost in all of this is is thirteen year old daughter and the fact that her teammate was on that and the baseball coach, and there were other people, you know, a guy speaking out that lost his wife and he has three kids and now they're all alone.
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a temper cent discount. Promo code is action for a temper cent discount Daily Order dot Com for millionaires or need. Okay, I want to wrap up Kobe. We have a lot of news that's kind of breaking that I do want to get to use. I want to put a bowl on the Kobe stuff. Um for now, I've heard. What did you think of the NBA not canceling their games yesterday? I wasn't a fan of it. I think that they
should have tried everything in their power. I mean, this is a game that might end up meaning something down the stretch for teams that are fighting for the postseason. And you know, you heard comments from people like Carmelo Anthony who said this was the toughest game that I've ever played in. And obviously he's coach close with Kobe and played for so long with Kobe Bryant and a lot of these guys did. And you see him Duncan on the sideline with the Spurs, he's an assistant coach
now like he's crying, he's wiping his eyes. Kyrie Irving didn't even appear in yesterday's game. He he couldn't play, and that's a game that might matter for the Brooklyn Nets like later on in this season. So I understand it. There are a lot of financial stipulations that are involved with these games, but personally I felt that they should
have canceled the games yesterday. It's a tough situation. It's really tough situation to do logistically speaking as well, um, so I understand the the idea not too I think chrismaox I said that a game of yesterday, I had a fantastic idea and the All Star Game, all the well half the teams who are eight the other half Show four. That was definitely see that coming true. I thought that was a really cool idea. Alex wondered aloud if should be retired by every team? Um already by
the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know how I feel about that. Um, you know, I it's it's tragic. It's very very sad.
You hit a lot of it a few moments ago that it felt like Kobe was starting the second part of his life, coaching his daughter, being a being a father, and he just had a new daughter, forgot, for God's sakes, right Like it felt like being a family man was so important to him and doing stuff outside of basketball, like the documentary he did that you want to last her for there's the short film. There's a lot left of Kobe that he wasn't gonna be a talking head
on inside the NBA. Not that he wouldn't do that, but it wasn't gonna be a talking head. I was just gonna get into coaching, but he was going to be around I knew so much, most importantly a great father, a better husband, and do all that, And that is what's sad. Scott f N belts hit it um on Sports Center a couple years ago, the other a year or two ago, and it has always hit me like this line hit me more than anything. Sure, you're sad when somebody dies of all the memories and you think
of all the great times. But what hurts more than anything else, what's to come that you don't know. You won't have that chance to witness what Kobe will do, or his daughter will do, or any of the other seven people that are on that flight on that helicopter do in their life, and that is sadder than anything else. We'll have these memories, you have your entire childhood growing up of Kobe memories. It's what was going to happen later that he's the most I think, all right, let's
get um. Let's get into some sports talk chat about what's going on around UH baseball and the NFL. We have a lot of baseball to cover, so I want to get into the NFL first, and the little transition over to baseball start of the NFL where the Chargers are into Jake Glazer has made it clear that Philip Rivers will not be back next year. Frankie, this isn't something that we didn't see coming. Like Philip Rivers moved out of there. It was clearly the time for a
clean break. Well, him and Eli manning same spot right, Maybe Philip Rivers is a little bit more left in the tank. Both of these guys are moving on. Eli retired last week. Philip Rivers is waiting to see what comes next for him. You've heard places like Tennessee come up if they don't resign Ryan Tannehill, a team that just made the ANFC Championship game. That could be a
good spot for him as a veteran. Does he want to take a shot where you'll start, you know, mentor somebody Tampa Bay with Bruce Arians as a gun slinger, that makes sense for him. I think there's a call spots for Philip Rivers. Still, what do you think Philip Rivers ends up? I think both of the teams that you brought up make a ton of sense. We've heard the New England Patriots thrown around. I know that there was a report over the weekend that Robert Kraft wants
to bring back Tom Brady, and understandably so. Look, they have so much history together. It doesn't mean that it's going to happen for sure. I know a couple of weeks ago during the McGregor fight, there were reports after that that, uh, Tom Brady met with Al Davis and there's a potential for him, you know, coming over with the Las Vegas Raiders. Next year will be their first season in Las Vegas, so we'll see what happens with Brady.
There's kind of a musical chair situation going on with these veteran quarterbacks right now, so I don't want to rule out the Patriots as a possibility. The two teams that you mentioned, the Bucks make a lot of sense as well with Bruce Arians and you know, I'll throw out the Carolina Panthers because you don't know what they're gonna do at quarterback. They can trade away Cam Newton. I personally, I think that Cam Newton is probably going
to be gone. I think they want to start anew with with Matt Rule, their new head coach, and he has this big contract and everyone fell in love with
him based on its press conference. So we'll see what the Carolina Panthers do with Cam Newton ultimately, but I think that they can probably find a taker for Cam Newton, and if that's the case, it wouldn't surprise me if they draft a quarterback early on and then maybe bringing a veteran like Philip Rivers too, maybe mentor or said rookie quarterback for the next two or three years or something like that. So I certainly think that's possible on
the Charge side of things, makes sense. Gonna move on. He certainly was not the same that he was. Three touchdowns, twenty interception. Yeah, he was gross last year. And I have called Philip Rivers a loser for a long time because he could never come up big and you knew he was always gonna through that pick six. Its kind of like Tony Romo on that way. And Philip Rivers and the Chargers have separated or into Jay Glazer. So what do they do next? Well, there's three options, as
we discussed during the break. Franky, Yeah, so those three options are, Hey, they can fill Philip Rivers with another veteran quarterback. We've heard a potential swap of Tom Brady to the Chargers and Philip Rivers to New England. Tom Brady gets to play in the warm weather. There are other veterans, not just Tom Brady. Could be Marcus Mariota could be an Andy Dalton, j Jameis Winston, someone who's looking for a new start with another team, so they
can go that route. They have a veteran I believe he's still under contract with the team in Tyrod Taylor, who has flashed at times. And the way that we're seeing the NFL move right now, they think at the Drew Brees homecoming, Huh, that's not gonna happen. Drew Brees said over the weekend that he's gonna take the next couple of months to figure out what he wants to do. Retirement is an option for him, but he said it's either the Saints or retirements. So I don't think he's
going anywhere. But Tyrod Taylor. The NFL has been trending Teddy Bridgewater. We saw Lamar Jackson have an m v P caliber season. We've seen Tyrod Taylor have success in the past with the Buffalo Bills. So uh, there's a chance that Tyrod Taylor can be the starter for the Los Angeles Chargers. And then the third option is obviously drafting a quarterback. Justin Herbert had a great week this past week with the Senior Bowl going on. He played well during the Senior Bowl. He helped his stock rise.
Um kind of helps out your New York Giants obviously, Greg, because there's demand for that fourth pick, moving ahead of the Dolphins, who potentially trade up and take a quarterback. So Justin Herbert is an option. Uh maybe if they stay at their spot, they'll have to who you don't know if he's gonna start his first year, could be a red shirt season for him, and that's where Tyrod Taylor would come into play again as well. So it
seems like they have three clear options. They can sign a veteran, they can go with tire Taylor, veteran who's already on the roster, or they can look to draft a rookie uh and potentially throw him out there in his first season. Yeah, absolutely all options make sense. As I said, great for the Giants because, uh, if the Charges are looking to draft a rookie quarterback, and maybe they are, I've assumed that certainly on their radar. Justin
Herbert had a big weekend at the Senior Bowl. Uh to is still they're out there, and you can think of the trade package that the Giants will get, Greg. We just saw the Jets trade up a couple of years ago from seven to three with the Indianapolis Colts, and they gave up their first round pick that year, and they gave up two second round picks as well on top of that. So that could be potentially what the Giants are looking at in return. Well, and the
Giants have plenty of holes to fill it. You think there would be a good up possibility that did get Himan would do that, But it's Kettleman, so uh, never assume anything. Frank. Maybe his four computer people that he hired will help him out with this one. Greg, how well thin those computer people are? I don't know. It's so I go in two ways, right, they're either like kids that are like interns, right right, that that's possible.
The other one is like guys that just got like laid off and best Buy that like don't have a job anymore. Right. He hired the geek squad, right exactly. They work on like Windows computers. Like he went in there and into best Buy like trying to get his phone fixed, and he saw something. He saw people like like like typing on the computer like this, and he was just like, oh my god, you've never seen that before. I like that. So he tried to hire them. But
I think that's like this thing possibility. It's not somebody that's like a Harvard graduate or a Pen graduate like the Brown's entire organization is. I do appreciate how in touch you are, Like, you're not delusional like other fans, Greg, where no matter what your team does, like you agree with it, Like no Dave Gentleman is gonna get it right. You're the same way, Frank. That's the only way to be a fan. Right. People will call me out, Well, you're not a real Jet fan, You're not a real
Knicks fan. No, I I That's exactly what I am. I'm a realistic fan. I don't live with delusions of grander. Greg. There are no delusions of that. When Adam cases your head coach when look, we'll call it for what it is. The Knicks since the turn of the millennium, greg Or probably the worst franchise in the NBA. So it's kind of calling it for what it is. It is what it is, Frank. It's factual. Yeah, it is factual. Did you watch any the Pro Bowl yesterday? Not a single second?
Nor did I not a single second. Judy was like following Instagram for updates, like what is wrong with you? Why are you doing this? Her dad was like, what have you become? I was like, listen, it wasn't me created a monster, like I don't I don't care about the Pro Bowl. I don't watch the Pro Bowl. She she was all in, this is nuts. At least one was yeah, I mean we do, like she didn't watch it? Has she adjusted to the signing her name Sessamania On the end, I don't know where does she right? Well?
At work she's going by she doesn't like officially changed her nami. Has a long process and she's a new passport and stuff, so it's like, hey, in the ass um at work she was going by Judie Cooker's SUMAN for like the next year or so. Everybody gets to know her and then eventually she just drop off the couger. Okay, yeah, I guess that makes sense, a little transition process. Do you feel strongly about it either way? You know it's funny.
Uh I would like it, prefer it probably, But I was like she was like, absolutely not, I'm not doing it. Was like, all right, well is your name? I get it. You would prefer it to be Sussman human yeah, okay, I'm not alone. I'm not crazy. Then I've yeah, I've I've cost some late night fights. But back in the day, this was like earlier on in the relationship, the first couple of years we're together. Yeah, I just I kind of assumed would always be that, and like she was
always fine with it. But her friends when we first get started, started getting invited to weddings when um, she was going to be married. They didn't know what to put them to put somebody person but Judy Cooker and your Shusman, and she's just like, He's like, well, why did Why didn't you just put you susmans my name? It was like nice, Yeah, now we get invited as well, Mr and Mrs Susman Susman. Yeah, your your sample. I didn't know I was causing controversy by doing that. No no, no, no,
you weren't. Okay, all right, yeah, signing baseball and a trade as well. We'll bring it all down. Next NFL season is now upon us, and you can become the eighth person awayen one million dollars in a Fandueler Draft Kings tournament by setting their lineups using the Daily Order dot Com DFS lot of optimizer. If you were playing Daily Fantasy Sports and not using Daily Order dot Com,
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We got Nick Castianos to the Reds, which kind of causes a playing time concern here for some youngsters on that team. And then we have another rumored trade potentially happening as well. Greg, what is that? So let me? Oh god, sorry, I just saw the Bruce Feldman on Twitter. So the Giants are hiring former Brown's head coach Freddie
Kitchens as our new Titan's coach. Officially, Well you knew that was the case, Greg, Well, I said, I literally had just read an article before we were on the air saying it's not even close to done and it might not happen he'll do Wonders with Jason Witten and Evan Ingram Greg that's gonna happen. That would be so weird. That'd be so weird. I know. Um, okay, let me start with the trade before we geting to Castie. Honest, so we've remember about starting Marte being on the block.
I never really thought he would get traded for some reason. I know the Pirates aren't going anywhere and they need to rebuild, but I didn't really think he would get traded. And then right before the show him fair enough. So right before the show started, my buddy uh texted me, He's like, hey, sorry, Martell, I got traded, and I
started like reef rushing Twitter violently. I didn't see anything, and then all of a sudden, Hayman Hassan Rosendal All tweeted at Starling Marte has headed to the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for two young prospects that have high ceilings. Have they mentioned who those prospects are? You not seeing
names yet? Alright? So Starling Marte, Yeah, this is big news because I mean he's someone that's being drafted very early with his NFBC A DP in the month of January, currently sitting at thirty three point five, So that's a solid third round pick no matter how you want to look at it. Twelve team leagues, fifteen team leagues, he is a third round pick, and especially from a roto perspective, you you understand why Starling Marte is a third round pick.
Someone that can provide stolen bases. And with the NFBC, there's so many overall components you can't afford to punt any categories, and Starry Marte put together a fine season last year. He is now thirty one years old. This will be his his age thirty one season. He doesn't turned thirty two until October nine, so that will be his playing age this season. Last year to twenty three homers, nineties, seven runs scored, eight two r b I and twenty five steals, so near player um again. He gives you
speed without hurting your home runs. He gives you a good batting average. He is a legitimate five category contributor, albeit not to the level of the guys that obviously are drafted in like the top five picks. Yeah, of course he he was somebody that previously went around the second round because of what he could do. Hasn't played a full season in twenty fife. That's the biggest knock on him. A hundred forty five games twenty eight teams is a lot. Hundred and thirty two last year, Frankie,
just read you all those stats. It was a good year, uh for Starling Marte. If he could stay healthy, would be a better year. I think in Arizona is a better line up, it's a better ballpark. I'm interested in Startling Marte, Frankie, Yeah, absolutely, and you should be. You have to pay up third round pick. But I think his floor is you know, even last year he played only a hundred and thirty two games, he's still provided
twenty three home runs and twenty five steals. So you know, if he could say healthy for those one forty, which I think it's a fair projection, you have to bacon that he's probably gonna have at least one d Elston, so don't miss around fifteen and twenty games throughout the course of the season. I think he's safe for twenty home runs, twenty five steals, two eight five batting average in this Arizona Diamondbacks lineup. He should be able to score,
you know, close to one hundred runs. He had nineties seven runs scored in the Pirates line up last year. You mentioned that he's moving over to a better lineup with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Will have a little Marte Marte connection. Kettle Marte one of the breakout stars from last season. I will likely be hitting behind Starling Marte if this trade does go through. I guess it's going through. Maybe
it's Starling Marte first, Kettle Marte second, something like that. Um, I guess that means Jake Lamb will be out of the lineup because he's currently Penciltan is their third baseman. But I would imagine they move Kettle Marte back to second base where he has experience at Wardo Escobar back to third base, and then you have Marte in center even for all To in left, and you have Cold Calhoun in right field. Does that make sense? Yeah, that seems that seems to make sense. Was what was her
first baseman? Christian Walker? Well, I do like a lot as like a late round corner infielder. He's a stat cast hero, and their shortstop is Nick Ahmed, who is a good defensive player, so you like he's the guy you pick up a drop last year, especially in you know, fifteen teamers or and the only leagues, but outside of that doesn't really have much value. And then Carson Kelly, who I'm a little bit intrigued in from a fantasy
baseball perspective this season. One of the prospects going over the Pirates is last year's first round pick for Arizona, Brennan Malone. Okay, yeah, I don't know anything really about him. And who oh I see the oh so happened? I don't know. Oh man, this is a tease by Modica. Oh so Modica just tweeted out a picture that pittures for Arizona. Was like, is he going to Pittsburgh? I don't know if it's like a coincidence. He just, you know how he just analyzes these players, and he put
up Zach Gallant. I was like, whoa wait a minute, no, no, no, oh Greggy, please, but I think he's just like doing Zach Gallant research. All right, Well, actually, I guess the move would be somewhat better for Gallen. Right Pittsburgh, better pitchers parked then in Arizona, but better chance at winds staying in Arizona. Zach Gallant, someone that we loved last year lit up Triple A. I got called up by the Marlins and then really surprisingly got traded for for
Jazz Chisholm last year just awesomely in Arizona. Yeah, and then he was great in Arizona. So I hope he's not on the move. Someone that I thought might be is John Duplantier we spoke about last year, who who does have some upside. He is a prospect for the Diamondbacks. It's not Gallant. It's Malone plus Paghetto plus two fifty dollars of international bonus money. Okay, so Leo there Paguerrero. All right. So I don't really know much about those prospects.
Admittedly probably probably you know, young guys, I would assume, yeah, that are that are far away from the majors. That's That's what I would imagine. But yeah, this is an overall positive move for for stalling Marte. Let's just hope that this doesn't affect his ADP. Do you think he's gonna climb into the second round? Now? Greg? Is he going to be like a borderline the second round pick?
So he's doing solidly in the third round? You said, yeah, his ADP was thirty three, so even in a fifteen team or he was an early third round pick, and in a twelve teamer he was a later third round pick, so he was in the third round. He was not a second round pick. Yeah, so I I could see him moving up toward the turn closer to the turn, Frankie, I can't see that. Be mussle. I'm pulling up the NFBC ADP over the last week here where over the last twelve days or days is interesting? So Marte is
going around? Who Labra Torres? Interest one. I'd rather have Marte. I'd rather have Marte, Aaron Judge, I, I don't know. I'd rather have Shane Bieber. He's going to one pick earlier, Brice Harbor. Yeah, like I'd rather have Bryce. I would.
I would hope not to be in that predicament. Like if I'm in that predicament where Bieber, Bryce Harper, and J. D. Martinez are gone and I'm looking at the board staring at Aaron Judge, Steven Strassburg, Labor, Starling Marte, man, I really would not want to be in that physician and I probably would take Starling Marte because he gives you the stolen basis. I don't want Aaron Judge. I'm off
from this year. He burned me last year. I'm back obviously, but I mean, what did you wear pinch stripes underneath that purple sweater day? No? Um? So are you? Are you? You know what? Maybe maybe I need to have a little bit of a reflection period here, Greg, because obviously I was in the main event last year, and I believe I was drafting twelfth overall, and I took Aaron Judge in the first round to Christale in the second round. And I'm off of both of those players this year.
And we often preach to other people, people who listen to us for fantasy baseball advice, that you can't really hold grudges fantasy baseball. But it's not. I'm not just avoiding these players because I was burned by them last year in the main event. Mind you, this is a high stakes league with a sevent d dollar buy in, where I was in first place going into July and then losing Chris Sale obviously kind of burned everything down
to the ground. Not that he was pitching great to begin with, but I think there are other factors that come into play. It's not just all I've been burned by this player before. It's I'm worried about the Aaron Judges and the Stantons and the fact that we spoke to Virginia Zakas about this before. It's baseball players who play with muscle mass like that. That's not the way that baseball players have have ever really played the game. I mean, even we've seen we saw guys in the
p D era. I mean, they weren't built the same way that like Aaron Judge and Stantonard. So I almost wonder are these guys always going to be prone to injury? So I do worry about that, and I kind of don't want to draft them. I don't want to draft Judge as early as he's going until he proves to me that he can stay healthy for a season. I get it. But Chris Sale, it's like looking this Chris sal with the elbow thing, Greg, I mean, this is
so worries him. Here's what I'll say. If he pitches in spring and the velocities up and he looks healthy, He's gonna shoot up till you a borderline first round pick. It's gonna happen. The reason why he's going in the third round right now is because of that unknown, and I agree with that that unknown it's it's a lot to invest in that I'm going to take a plunge. He's thirty years and I get it. I understand the VLO was down. This elbow thing is real, he was
expell It's risky territory. I understand that all the underlying numbers for him were very good. The strikeouts were still there, the extract is there. But Greg, I'm telling you I watched every start because I own him in multiple places. Something was not right with him. Now, look, if he shows that in the spring, then I understand why people why people will get back on board. And this is why you draft early, because you can get that discount now. But he can also go the other way as well.
That's why I'm saying, like, in terms of risk reward, there's nobody who carries more of both of those. And Chris Sale in the third round right now, he carries the most risk, but he also carries the highest reward. I have to say, and like, no, he's still got into the reds, but I have those out there. You and I talked before about understanding the auction right nailing guys that can produce first round value sale, isn't that mold?
Chris Tecation is number one overall pure The person who won our g d D fifteen team auction league last year took the chance on Clayton Kershaw, and look how it worked out. With that being said, Kershaw was more of like a fifth round pick last year, and I think he got him for like fifteen sixteen bucks. Because for sale, you're still gonna have to say right now, you're not again for achieving the twenty five I'm gonna tell you right now. If he's going over the eighteen,
I'm gonna mid nineteen. That's fair. But that to me, that equates to an eighteen nineteen dollar players more like a fifth round pick. For a fifth round pick, that's fine, But I think once you get to like the twenty five dollar range, I'm not a big fan of the second and third round starting pitchers. This is I don't know that I've revealed it on the air before, but I've been diving deep into pitching. I'm really I'm don't want my top thirty rankings as of now. Greg A,
this like you wanted you on the air. You wanted to be like that several notes here. Yeah, so I really I think this is the year that I'm going to dive into the first round starting pitchers. I want one of those top three aces Verlander, Um, one of the ground one of Garrick Cole, and then kind of come back around in that fourth round range. I really like Charlie Morton this year. I think Zach Ranky disrespected
once again this year. I think that there's upside for a bounce back into a synder Guard and Luis Severinos. So I like that fourth, fifth round ranger starting pitchers to me, the second and third round, the second rounder specifically, it seems like you're drafting these guys that they're ceiling. Clevinger, Shane Bieber, Walker, Bueller. I get it there, Young and maybe there's another step maybe, but it seems like you're drafting these guys that they're ceiling. And then the third
round with Blake Snell for sale. The reward again it's high, but the risk is is also very evident there. Greg, Yeah, I get it, I get it. We'll see what he goes for. I'm excited somebodyself pushing for him. We'll say this Fring goes I want to. The first NFBC auction took place last night, so I just want to pull up and see how much Chris Sale went for. You can pull that off from me. So he went for
and that's the first auction. So people are thinking similarly to you, and if you can get him at that discount, you want to be involved. But for example, Shane Bieber went for twenty nine, give me Bieber for two more, two more dollars. Who is safer? Safer in my opinion than Chris Sale doesn't have the two dollar discount. I think you you can, you'll ask, people can get different answers, obviously, you know, but I prefer the safety early on it. And to me, Shane Bieber is I think picture list
things about that. We'll have to get our buddy Pollic on to what to talk about that. I would like to know. Walker Bueller went for thirty nine. Oh my god, it's very small. So that's why I'm trying to like peak in forty three. Garrett Cole goes for forty six. Is giving an issue? Dustin Verlander goes for thirty seven. Hang Nang found our guy. Greg found the guy. Okay, we'll come back. We'll hit on the Reds. We'll get more to the Reds tomorrow because I want to spend
a lot of time on this. But we'll we'll just talking about tomorrow. I don't know, we'll rob with the show. Next NFL season is now upon us. So you can become the eighth person away one million dollars in a Fandueler Draft Kings tournament by setting their lineups using the Daily Order dot Com DFS lot of optimizer. If you were playing Daily Fantasy Sports and not using Daily Order dot Com, you're doing it wrong. Sign up now for the NFL Access with a faster optimizer, smarter DFS projection,
and better results. Into promo code action for its ten percent discount. Is that's promo code action for its ten per cent discomp Taylor Order dot Com where millionaires are made? All right, final three minutes program? Three questions in three minutes? We're Back's happening? Oh it's my earpiece? That what it is? Your ear piece? Because I hear you perfectly find Greg. Alright, you're here live on the Sports Cared TV network. This is earpieces going in and out here. All right, do
you have three questions in three minutes? Great? He doesn't soundly. You have three questions, so we have a lot to talk about when it comes to the Reds, Right, So you want to do that now, you want to say it tomorrow. It's big, you know. Yeah. I don't want to rush it by any means. I would like to spend my time. And I did a lot of research on not just Nick Cassiano, who joined the Reds, but all the other pieces that are kind of affected here with Nick Senzel, Aka Yama and RS and Michael Stockis.
So I'm very interested in the Cincinnati Reds, a lot of pieces of the moves. I guess I'll just ask three questions in three minutes based on what we're just talking about in the NFBC. In the auction that just took place last night, I'm gonna play you tell me how much they went for? Ready, Um, the board that I'm looking at doesn't have everybody, but it has a lot of the big name players, So I will try. I'm not gonna do something right. Austin Meadows, Austin Meadows
went for a pretty penny last night. He went for thirty dollars, which is the same price as Bryce Harper and one dollar more than J. D. Martinez. That's too much money, Frank, I love Austin Meadows, and I agree that is too much money. George Springer go for more or less than that. George Springer went for less twenty four dollars. I need, come on, six dollars. I don't like George Springer. I'm not gonna be last year either. I didn't. Maybe it looks stupid, that's right, so we're
not going back. Yeah, but he also doesn't have trash Cansas here, gregor buzzers or anything. It was really good last year. He was very good. I want to buy a player off a career gear, Greg, I mean he was good last year. Two Like, I don't know. I like Gewarge Springer. I haven't done the research. Yeah, but I like George um one more. Lucas Gilida. Lucas Gilito went four. I just saw his name. Twenty five dollars seems there. Yes, so two dollars less than Chris Sale.
I mean, if I had to equate that too around it's in a fifteen teamer. That's a three four swing kind of guy, and that's basically where he's been going. Late third, early fourth round for Lucas Gilito as more often than that team's SP two's. So it's twenty five dollars. I don't love the price, particularly Za Granky. Twenty dollars, give me that, Greg, No, Syndergard, it's twenty one dollars. I mean I got an out of worth a lot
of research to do. We need your help to deal, all right, Wait, your talk is up next, followed by at the window for Frankstanple. I'm Gregg Sousman. Will do it all in tomorrow, we hope.
