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You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Fantasy Best Friends Forever. M No singing today, No Greg Salesman, Frank Sample here, very serious day. On an overreaction Monday, Fantacy Best Friends Forever. A wild wild Week one saw a ton of injuries. We had five different wide receivers with fifteen plus targets in a game, something that didn't happen in a single game at all last season. Tyreek Hill who dren sixty eight all purpose yards, three touchdowns. It
was a wild wild Week one. So we'll be reacting to that, obviously overreacting. Well, we'll find out for overreacting or not. And to do that. Craig Susman, he is out celebrating the new year. I have my good buddy Fantasy tas Jim Day, Jim, what's going on? Man? Hey, Frank, thanks for having me on. Looking forward to talking some football with you. Did I did I do a good job of describing how wild the Week one actually was to start the show. It was definitely pretty wild and
you know, very unique in a lot of instances. So it's gonna be fun to talk about it and just try and pick it apart. Yes, So, as I mentioned overreaction Monday, I mean, look, there's a very popular thing to do. The first Monday after Week one. We have a lot to dissect. I mean you might be out of your survivor pools already because the New Orleans Saints got upset by the Tampa Bay Bucks. I had the Baltimore Ravens. I think I believe Greg Susman did as well.
We spoke about that last week Fantasy best Friends Forever. We mentioned the Ravens were our survivor picks, and I had them in both of them. I didn't try to differentiate. It didn't go with one Ravens, one Roland Saints. I took the Ravens and I stuck with that. Jim, do you have any Survivor picks this week. I also took to Ravens. I agree. I went with one I thought was just gonna be an easy pick in week one
and try not to be too fancy about it. There you go, right, It seems so easy to write, because when else are you gonna use the Baltimore Ravens. When else are you gonna feel that strongly about using the Ravens at home against Nathan Peterman and the Buffalo Bills And they go out there and they know they just went forty seven to three, so absolutely wild game. We'll get into the good the bad, and as I mentioned the Bills because I don't I don't even you can't
even put them under the category of bad. They were just they were historically bad. It was atrocious. I'm sorry, gay Maartcie, if you're still downstairs in the control room, I'm crushing the Bills right now, but rightfully so, I think they deserve it for seven to three. I mean, what more can you say about that? Before we get into some of the overreaction, is the good stuff that happened, the bad stuff that happened. Jim's gonna go around and discuss some of the injury related news that we have
as of right now. Um start off with Doug Baldwin right diagnosed with a right MCL spraining. You know, some people might try and take this as a good thing. I don't know how we necessarily frame it as a good thing. But the only good part of this is that it's not the same knee that he was dealing with in the preseason. He was dealing with his left knee. But now the bad news is that he now has two bum knees and it's only Week one. I like I I have a feeling that this is just gonna
end up being a washed season for Doug Baldwin. Is crazy to say, and that's why we're here. Is an overreaction on Monday, But like expect from him with two bum knees, a guy that didn't have record a single reception in Week one against the Broncos. Yes, it was a pretty tough match of going up against Chris Harrison that secondary. You know, people still, uh they want to devalue the the Broncos defense a little bit because they
lost the keep to leave. But as a Doug Baldwin owner in multiple leagues, I am very, very worried about this in week one, Jim Day, No, you have to be there's no doubt about it. H you know, an mcl sprain is always tough. Uh, probably not looking good for him in the week two. He could actually miss up to three to four weeks with this sprain, depending
on what grade it is. But uh, you know, as somebody who has a very bad knee, a lot of times what happens with one bad knee is that you tend to favor the other one and eventually you end up putting too much strain on the other one, so makes that a little weaker as well. This, you know, this is definitely something to be concerned with with Baldwin. There's no doubt about it. Hopefully it's just a low
grade injury. Maybe comes back in two weeks. I definitely don't think we see him in week two, but hopefully we can see him in week three going forward. Yeah, yeah, that's certainly true. And it was. You know, Doug Baldon was like a roller coaster in the preseason, Jim, because early on in the draft season, late July early August, I was trying to get plenty of shares of Doug Baldwin. I was very interested in him because all the targets that were left behind with no Jimmy Graham leaving behind
about a hundred targets, Paul Richardson about eighty targets. So that's a hundred and eighty targets between two players that were gone. And in Jimmy Graham, we know what he did in the red zone last year in terms of demanding targets in that area of the field. So I was very excited about Doug Baldwin. Then we got the knee injury early on in camp and he said, oh,
I'm gonna be on. I'm good for week one, and then towards the end of training camp it comes out that he's only So this is an absolute roller coaster ride with Doug Baldwin. It's crazy. Um, I drafted him in a few leagues. Look, whatever I tell people to do, I actually do myself. And I have a feeling that you are the same exact way. I told people that I moved Doug Baldwin back into that two three swing, and right now I'm suffering for it because I drafted
him in multiple leagues. Over Tyreek Hill, oh overhill. Yeah, you're definitely suffering for that. Look um. You know again, it's hard to overreact after one week. And one of the things that we'll probably talk about it you know, you mentioned it earlier, is that we saw a multitude of top, top, top wide receivers get you know, over
fifteen targets and the reason for that is easy. I mean, these quarterbacks were looking for the guys they know and trust, They know where they are, they know where they're going to be, and they can feel that they can just use them as needed because they just haven't had any chance to work with the team as a whole against an opponent. So these guys were looking for their number one guys and that consistent. That will change as the weeks go on and everybody gets starting to melt together
as a team. But in week one that you know, isn't that big a surprise. And I think as a result of this Doug Baldwin news think Brandon Marshall is going to be a very very popular waiver wire target this week in FAB as well as Tyler Lockett if he wasn't drafted in your league, because obviously if he can't go. We saw a bit of a report there with Brandon Marshall as well targeted multiple times in the red zone, so that'll be interesting to see how that
pans out him. Also, the Titans, this team looks it looks like a crap shoot already. It's Week one. I can't tell if I'm overreacted to this, but look, Delaney Walker, it's pretty much done for the season already. We know that. I believe it was a fractured ankle. Obviously a gruesome injury for a player of his age thirty three thirty four years old. He was dealing with the injury in training camp as well, and then Marcus Mariota leaves with an elbow injury. Derrick Henry did not look great. The
running back usage very very frustrating already. Um so what are you making from this from the Tennessee Titans. It looked like an absolute mess in Week one against the Dolphins. Yeah, this offense was definitely all over the place. Uh, let's face it up. Mariota, even before he got injured, just didn't look very good, which was surprising after pretty pretty decent preseason. But you know, nine for sixteen only a hundred three yards but two interceptions, not a good start
for him. Uh It, you know, it looks like he'll be okay that the elbow so far doesn't seem to be too bad. We'll know more after today when they do some more work on on it and take some more shots of it and see where we're at. But at this point, you know, without him, it's definitely gonna be scary. With Blaine Gabbert, I'm the center. Uh you know, Gabard is definitely not somebody who really puts any kind of fear in opponents. And the good thing that comes out of this is that I think we start to
see a lot more Dion Lewis like we did yesterday. Yeah, Dan Lewis dominated the snaps yesterday, and we went over to another situation. Look the Tennessee Titans. I'm I'm worried about them. I'm worried about their offense right now. If you drafted pieces of those running backs, I think you feel good about Dion Lewis. I think that is predicated
on game flow, that running back situation. If they're winning games and they're up in a game, I think Derrick Henry is obviously going to be the running back to have that week. But you're not really gonna know going into a week, right Like we thought that this Tennessee Titans Miami Dolphins matchup would be pretty close, and it turns out that the Titans ended up trailing for a lot of this game. And because of that, Dion Lewis
was the guy to own this week. And I think it's gonna be very, very frustrating weekend and week out trying to figure out which running back to use. I don't think we're gonna know on a weekly basis. Obviously it depends on game flow, but we're not going to know that. One more injury I wanted to talk on. Obviously Aaron Rodgers was a big injury as well. I'm gonna wait till we get some some tests on that,
but obviously he came back in. It looked like he was playing on one leg, but he was still Aaron Rodgers. He went off for two hundred and eighty five yards three touchdowns. I want to mention Leonard Fournette and I was not a Leonard four Nett guy coming into the year, Jim, And it didn't have to do with the hamstring. It just had to do with the foot the ankle. But again we saw last year that when once he was dealing with a leg injury. He was not the same
player he was pre injury verse post injury. He was much more explosive before that foot and ankle injury last year. And now he has his hamstring that he's already dealing with in week one, and you know, to keep using the word overreact, I don't want to, but this seems to me like something that can lager an entire season, Jim. Hamstring injuries are always a problem. You know, hopefully they take it slow with him, don't try to rush him back. That's usually the problem when you try and rush your
player back from a hamstring injury. It's so prone to being injured again that you run real big risk with that. This is their bell cow guy, This is the guy they want to carry the load. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see him sit at least one week. He said after the game. He could have returned to the game. But you know, again, with a hamstring injury, you have to take it slow. You have to be careful, and it's gonna be interesting to see
what they do here. That's up, Jim. And yet the Giants still lost, and yet you are hearing the sweet, sweet sounds of Chris Venture the analysts. You can listen to him and Fantasy Taz Jim Day on the Fantasy Football Frenzy Venture. I want to I wish I can apologize for the Giants losing, but it honestly brought a smile to my face. I'm sorry it didn't. I can understand you hate the Giants and because the Jets, you know, yeah, okay, wait,
I have to throw in two points here. First of all, the one thing I did like was that the Giants defense played much better in the second half than they did the first half. They started to come together. They did a lot of three and ounce against Jacksonville, which was nice. Again, I will reiterate another point. They need to get rid of Eric Flowers. I don't care who are they doing. They need to get rid of Eric Flowers. He's got to be the worst tackle in football. I've
hated him since they drafted him. They need to get his ass out of it. But there's an even bigger problem, though, more than Eric Flowers. It's Eli Manning. I hate to say it, but it's we were talking about this downstairs. A lot of its stand from Eric Flowers, the offensive line. You were telling me that they needed more mobile quarterback. They Giants have won Super Bowls without a mobile quarterback with Eli Manning. But it all starts with the offensive line.
So I have to go with Jim on this one. Look, if you improve that offensive line, you're showing out money to Odell Beckham, use money on a backup tight end last year and Rhett Ellison rather than going out and spending on your offensive line. Well, yes, they added pieces to their offensive line this offseason, but they also lost pieces to that offensive line, so you're kind of just mitigated what you lost and you still have Eric Flowers on that offensive line. So I'm kind of I'm with Jim, like,
I don't think this is all Eli Manning's fall. You give the guy's weapons, you gotta be able to protect him. It's definitely not all Eli's fault. Part of it is McAdoo messed up a lot of things here and Sherman's trying to clean it up. And he did a good job again and sold it. But you know, obviously you can't fix the whole old line, and you know, one day, but I think the old line is good enough. See Eli, when he won those Super Bowls, he had a great
defense or a great defensive line both those years. Uh, and we had a great offensive line and great running game. We had two thousand yard rushes that first year when we won the Super Bowl. So Eila needs compliments to himself. He can't be the star. He's not Aaron Rodgers. He can't carry the team. He needs help. We got Barkley. That was the That was the key. If we could rely on Barkley, Eli will do good. If Barkley does well, we have the weapons. The problem is Eli over threw
that like three times that in that game yesterday. He that pick. He throws so many balls low near the line. Gabes said it earlier on Carton and Friends. All the time, he's guaranteed two deflected balls of the line all the time, and a lot of times ends up being a pick because it gets hit up in the air, and that ruined the game. It was a pick six. The game's over right there. But he also had receptions that were completed down the field, two guys like Evan Ingram that
revoked because of holding penalties by Eric Flower. Yeah, no, definitely a lot of things that need to be fixed. But let's move on the new York Giants hour. You came up here with the Yankee had on an agenda. You want to talk about Eli Manning and New York Giants. Save it for the Fantasy Football Frenzy where you could talk to Corey about the NFC East and Utred Cowboys offense. Corey, I am sorry to say it, but it is not looking good after a Week one for the Dallas Cowboys.
I mentioned we're gonna talk about the good the bad, and I want to start with some good here. This is the stat of the day. This is per Nathan Jankee at PFF Underscore. Nate jan Kee j A h n k E puts out great, great stats, uh regarding snap counts and snap percentage for running backs, and he had this to say, Joe Mixon playing over seventy eight percent the Bengals offensive snaps in Week one. That is
his highest percentage since being drafted by Cincinnati. So, Jim, I'll go to you first, and I'm just gonna make a bold claim here and you tell me if I'm overreacting or not. Joe Mixing seventeen rushes for ninety five yards, a touchdown, seven targets, five receptions, fifty four yards Hugh Bernard one rush minus one yard, one target, one reception, eleven yards. Joe Mixing is going to be a top
twelve running back to hear Jim. If he continues to get that kind of opportunity, that kind of usage in the passing game. I'm with you, no doubt about it. Uh. He showed. Look, we all knew he had the talent. We were worried about him because the offensive line was so terrible. Least here they obviously improved it. They looked a lot better in this offensive line yesterday. Mixing is a talent. And if he continues to get this workload and that kind of surrounded played by the offensive line,
then sure, I'm with you. I do think at some point Bernard will be a little bit bigger of a player than he was yesterday. But Mixing is definitely the guy. Yeah. You know when Bernard's gonna be the big player when they play a team that's actually good on defense. Uh, that team is awful the Colts on defense, So you can run the ball down, then he could do what you want. Um, I feel like if the game script applies Mixing, Yeah, I'm I'm sold now. Listen, I was
against it. I didn't like mixing. I'm wrong. The guy's got super talent, I know that, but I think he could do a good job. I think he might be inconsistent times, he might have bad games here and there, but overall he should be a rock solid RB two, possibly an RB one, like you said Top twelve. Yeah, I don't know if I agree with the statement that you made about game flow right, because we saw two different game flows within one game with the Cincinnati Bengals.
They were they were trailing for a lot of this game, and then they got up in this game, and regardless of what was happening, Joe Mixon was the guy on the field, which I think is the biggest takeaway from this game. You know, a reason why I shied away from Joe Mixon during draft season is because I looked into the past Geo Bernard usage. The guy has consistently played thirty five plus percent of the snaps while Marvin Lewis,
while he's been there with Marvin Lewis. So I figured, once again, I'm like, look, Geo Bernard is not going away. In this game, Geo Bernard was nowhere to be found. Joe Mixon looked like a slender version of himself. He shed down weight in the off season. We knew about that. He looked much more spry in the preseason. He showed a lot of that here. He had the explosiveness and
then also his usage in the passing game. I mean, this guy was a phenomenal, phenomenal receiver coming out of college, and then he showed that in the preseason as well. They're lining him out as a wide receiver, throwing him screen passes, letting him just work down the field. I think if you drafted Joe Mixon, I don't think this is a no reaction. I think there's a good chance that he can be an RB one for fantasy football season. So talk more about the good the bad. Maybe we'll
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Head on over and start winning. Two days. Speaking of winning, Brown's almost one they tied to get in lose. But if you have the Browns plus four like I did, hit hit pretty well, I liked, I like that I was gonna do a teaser Brown's Ravens Saints, the Saints, that that would have crushed you right there, all right, So let's hump back in. We were talking about Joe Mixon and his uses with the Cincinnati Bengals and the fact that Joe Bernard was not really anywhere to be
seen on the field. I want to go to another running back, really the antithesis of what Joe Mixon represents. Joe Mixon a young, fun, exciting running back. Adrian Peterson old boring, wasn't really fun in the preseason, drafted in the ninth tenth round, Joe Mixon going in the second and third round. What Adrian Peterson do in Week one? Just twenty eight touches Jim nearly thirty touches for the Angels. Adrian Peterson twenty six rushing attempts, two catches in this game,
nineties six rushing yards. That's three point seven yards per carry, but two receptions for seventy yards. That the guy is still in fredibly explosive. It's insane. He looked like Adrian Peterson from five years ago. I thought, it's like he's refreshed. Did this guy us a time machine and come back to play the ariphon of Cardinals in week one. Damn, even if it's three point seven yards of cary, if he's below four yards were carry, I don't care. The
guy is getting nearly thirty touches per game. I'm here to tell you that Adrian Peterson is a top twenty four running backs here. He is a legitimate RB two. Am I crazy not if he continues to get that kind of usage. Let's face it, like you said, even at three point seven yards per carry, who cares touching the ball thirty times? Look, you know we saw his decline last year and the games where he did absolutely nothing, but it was obvious. He came in to prove a
point yesterday and he proved his point. He proved that he's still viable and he could put up yardage. I mean, let's face it that he scored his hundred TD ever in that game. Uh, he passed Marshall falk And on the all time rushing list, So he had some things to prove and he did. I don't know if we see this week, but if he's going to touch the ball five plus times every week, he's got to be
in the starting lineup because eventually he's gonna break something. Yeah, I mean the thing is for me obviously had those motivations, the hundred touchdown, the rushing yards, but I also see he's not gonna most of the time, he's not gonna get to seventy yards worth receiving yards. He'll probably have one or two catches. Maybe catches are not happy. He never did that pro He's not gonna do it now to catch the ball. I mean seveny receiving yards on
two receptions, absolutely flukey, right. But the yardage wasn't great for the amount of carries, but the carries were good. The problem is they were blowing that team out. Right. If they're playing another team once again, game flow again. If if they can't run the ball, it's gonna be a Chris Thompson show if they gotta throw a lot. But they were able to take the puge lead and just pound Peterson. Why not. He's thirty three years old and he's not on a big contract. Who cares you
just pound him. They'll run him into the ground. The ground. That's a good thing about it. And you know the thing about Chris Thompson is they used him a lot to get up in this game. I just don't know that they will ever use him for more than twelve thirteen touches per game because they know what they have in Chris Thompson. He's incredibly explosive in small doses, but
he has a huge injury history. You can't use a guy like that as your work coorse back, even if you're trailing in games like, yeah, he'll be on the field, but I don't know that he's ever going to touch the ball more than twelve thirteen times. And they prove that they can coexist in the same game. Chris Thompson said in the preseason that he's five rushes for sixty five yards, seven targets, six receptions, so for an additional
sixty three yards. I mean, the guy was nearly a hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown on eleven touches. So efficient, so efficient, And but he fits the mold of all these other guys Deon Lewis Um not Geo Barnad right now, because he seems to be basis he's better than those guys. Well, yeah, but you know what I mean, He's never going to touch the ball fifteen plus times. It's not gonna happen, right, I mean Deon Lewis might Deon Louis, I mean he did it yesterday,
and more touches and Derrick Henry. But did these guys fit that mold where you have that like your pass catcher and you got your your up the middle runner and uh, there's a lot of teams like that in the league. You tere Cohen and Jordan Howard, So uh, it works, it works. These past catching running back, especially in ppo league, the more valuable sometimes than like an Alfred Morris, who you know, it's just he's the starter, but he's splitting carries with another running back and he
doesn't catch passes. I'd rather have the guy that catch catches passes. It's pretty much that simple. Jim. Do you agree that Adrian Peterson and Chris Thompson can co exist together and both both be fantasy viable or do you think that if they're trailing in a game, we're gonna see more of Chris Thompson. I just don't think that they can lean on him based on his injury history. Well,
they can lean on him until they can't, let's face it. Uh, And you know it was him saying he wasn't a hundred percent and healthy in the preferseason, But it wasn't him showing that because he was on the field in preseason playing well. It was in his mind, in his head that he thought he wasn't gonna be fully healthy till November. He showed yesterday he's fully healthy. He's ready to go. And as long as he's healthy, they're gonna run him. They're gonna get him into in the game plan.
Even with Peterson touching the ball dirty times. Look, they don't want, uh, they don't want to qb Uh Smith to have to throw the ball forty times. They don't want that. That's not what they want to see. They want to be able to run the ball, especially in this NFC East. You want to be able to establish the run in every game. And if they could do that with both of these guys, I think we see
that more happening more often than not. Peterson is going to be a guy that you know, if he's touching the ball twenty times a game, he's gonna get you enough yards to give you some points. He doesn't catch a lot, we know that, but if he gets that occasional touchdown thrown in he's gonna be a guy scoring double digit fantasy points, and Chris Thompson can easily do that even with limited touches by catching the ball. We
know that. You know, a pass target is about three times as valuable as a carry for running back, So any running back that gets that many targets is always going to be liable in the PPR league. Ape he's gonna rely on tds, yeah, absolutely, but you know I'm buying it if you're in a standard or in a half point PPR. I think Adrian Peterson could be a top twenty four running back based on you know, for the rest of the season. Yeah, could be if he's
getting this much work. If he's getting fifteen and twenty touches the game, I mean, let alone, he was near thirty touches in this game. I think, you know, again, they don't have a long term commitment to him. They can run him and if they're gonna play smash mouth football like that then works. I think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the team is winning as well. If the team is winning, I think
it motivates Peterson to be better. I think if they start losing, I wouldn't be surprised at all if all of a sudden we see Peterson go back into the mode he had last year where he just didn't look like he really cared a lot, you know what. Shout out to Jordan Reid to who looked pretty healthy in this game. He didn't play a full compliment of snaps, but I think that's by design. I think they should
continue to do that. Use him in the right packages, the right passing plays now down near the goal line in the red zone, where Jordan Reid could have have his presence. Felt No, Alex Smith loves to throw the ball to the tight end. So I think again, if he as long as he can stay healthy, he's going to be productive on a per game basis. Jordan Reid and Chris Thompson, those are going to be a lot of the early progression reads for Alex Smith in this stock up on those two guys. Onto the Steelers man
Levian Bell, who, Yeah, I found this. This is crazy. I found the hysterical that Tomlin said Bell, this is basically a statement, and he didn't say by where he said it. On the field, he said Bell, I just ran James Conner thirty four times and gave him seven targets, So you're nothing special. That's basically what he said. He threw it right back in his face. How about this this tweet from Warren Sharp at sharp Football comparison of Levian Bell and James Conner in their Week one games
first Cleveland. Because last year Week one they faced Cleveland, it was Levian Bell. This year they faced Cleveland. It's James had ten carries. Bell Bell success rate three point two yards per carry. Connor success rate four point four yards per carry. First down to cess rate Levian four point eight yards per carry. James Connor success rate five point six yards per carry. James Conner played one hundred per cent of the snaps. He played every single snap
in this football game. That is absolutely insane. Thirty one rushes, a hundred and thirty five yards, two touchdowns, six targets, five receptions fifty seven yards. Jim, if you drafted James Conner in a keeper league or in a dynasty league, oh my god. Levan Bell is not here. Next year. He is not here next year. Own him in a keeper or dynasty league. We know he's got there next year. Anyway, There's no doubt in my mind. He's not a Steeler next year, and that's why they brought in Connor last
year to be that eventual guy. We saw what we like now. The statue just referenced by Warren Sharp. See this is why sometimes I hate stats, because you can make stats say whatever you want. And you could compare this first game to last year's first game. But if you really dig deeper, we know Bell wasn't in camp, didn't get any preseason, had no work leading up to that first game. So comparing this first game to that first game, it's just a false stat There's really nothing
comparable to those two games. You know, compare him to a game where Bell had a good game and then we got to talk, you know, don't compare it to a game where Bell comes in off the street with a couple of days work and you know, gets a minimal amount of touches. To me, that's just a bad use of stats. Yeah. Well, but the most impressive thing isn't even that he had five point six yards to carry, or that he caught five passes for sixty yards almost which I heard people say. I heard others say that
he doesn't have good hands. I didn't see it. He looked very good in the passing game. Um, and the most impressive thing is that he had thirty four carries and five catches. That's the most impressive thing. He only had four. I think it's thirty four, so whatever it is, it's thirty five plus touches for a guy who last year probably sold one or two who touches a game. I mean, right if that so, that's the most impressive thing.
I think here he could. She showed that, you know what, I could carry a workhorse load and he proved it, and I'd be excited about James Knner. The Steeler system works. The old line is mad good. I mean, you just run the ball day up the middle of this guy. This guy is a fearsome running back and the old one loves him. You saw they all celebrated with him and stuff on the first touch. I'm sure they would have much more. They would have much rather enjoyed celebrating
a win rather than a tie against the Cleveland round. Jim, I just want to address what you said about the stat first of all, in Week one last year, that's nobody's fault to Levan Bells himself because he didn't show up the training Camp, So I get what you're saying. I know that it's completely different situations. But with that being said, Cleveland Brown's last year as a rushing defense allowed three point four yards per carry that was second
best in the NFL. So I think for James Conner to come in here and do what he did against that rushing defense, which was one of the best in the NFL last season, I think there was something to be said for that. Now. I get what you're saying about comparing, and it's not the same necessarily, but it was Levian Bell's fault that he wasn't prepared for Week one last year, So I'll just throw that out there. I still think it's very impressive what James Connor did. No, No,
you're taking you're taking me wrong. I'm not saying anything about what Connor did. Connor had an amazing game, no doubt. I'm not taking anything away from Connor's game. He did exactly what the Steelers needed him to do, go out and show Levian Bell, we can do it without you. He did exactly that, and that's why he saw the ball so much, and that's why he was on the field so much, just to show Levian Belt we can do it without you. I get all that James Connor
had a fabulous game, it's not that. It's that, you know, when you try and compare stats like that, that's just you know, to the uninformed out there, people seeing that saying, oh my god, Connor is better than Bell. Well that's not that's not true. I think that I had a great game. But to put out a stat like that, to me, it's just a falsehood. You can't really put that out there and not expected to be picked apart when you know the back backstory behind it. And I'm
not saying it wasn't Bell's fault. I'm not a Bell fan in any way, shape or form. The guy's an idiot. I mean he's shown that time and time again. But the fact of the matter is to try and put those kinds of stats out there, it's just bad reporting. You're putting bad information out there for people that are very gullible for bad information. Well, people like to see all the all the information they can. They like to
you know, see obscure stuff, deep stats. I understand that, But when it comes out to is this all ties into the overreaction stuff. It's week one. Um, we gotta be careful because like obviously now everybody wants to jump on the ap band wagon or the James Connor band wagan and then maybe we're all forget about Chris Hogan, who we all love before the season and had what one to one, two, one or two catches in this game? Uh yesterday he did nothing. Basically, you're just jumping you
know what I'm saying. You're gonna be fine, But I mean, I don't mind talking about it right now. Yeah, let's talk about Chris Hogan. One catch for eleven yards in the win. He was fourth on his team in targets. What worries me most about this, Jim is the fact that he wasn't needed for this team to win the game,
if that makes sense. Like they won twenty on the back of Gronk, on the back of Tom Brady throwing to James White, who I think we all kind of suspected could have a big game here, and then they also used Philip tore set more in this matchup. And just to make matters worse, Chris Hogan is going up against the Jacksonville Jaguars secondary next week, so I'm probably not gonna have him in my lineup, which is crazy because this is a guy that was the fourth or
fifth round pick. Well, let me be the contrarian here, um. And it's only because of Bill Belichick. I'm gonna go out there and think that. You know, Belichick used Hogan as a decoy in this one. We've seen him do that with other receivers trying to get defenses. Look, we all expected Hogan to have a great game. I'm sure the defense expected Hogan to have a great game because he was their number one wide receiver and they planned for that. They always made sure he had doubles on
him over on your coverage a lot of times. And Belichick knew that going in would be the case, and he sturned flipped the script and he went to the other guys. I mean, you don't have to worry about that with Gronk because Cronk's too good. You're gonna throw the ball up, let him go get it. He's gonna do what he does. But with Hogan, you know, if he's receiving double coverage a lot, then you're not gonna see them go to him. You're gonna see Brady use
his other options, which is what we saw. We go fast forward to next week with Checksiville flipped the script again. You know, they're really not gonna worry about double covering Hogan after one reception in week one. They're definitely gonna go after Gronk. They may pay a little bit more attention to Philip Dorset, and all of a sudden, Hogan is the guy out that's, all of a sudden catching the balls. This is how belichick mind thinks. He's always
one step ahead. He's playing chess when the rest of the coaches are playing checkers. But you would think Ramsey is gonna shadow Hogan a good portion of the games. Shadow he takes one guy. He could Yeah, he could go to ground too, That's what I'm saying. He might go back and forth, and they'll find ways to move these guys around, just like the Giants did with Beckham yesterday,
trying to get him away from Ramsey. Although he roasted Ramsey many times, Ramsey with the two pass interference penalties just because he had you know, oh b J had him on his heels quite a few times with those double moves. So you know, he can be beat. He just just have to get somebody out there willing to run the strong route and be committed to it like O.
B J was yesterday. Yeah, Odell Beckham again one of those five players who had fifteen plus targets in Week one, again something that didn't happen in a single game last year in the regular seasons, in a single week, there was never a group of five receivers that had fifteen plus targets. And here we have that in Week one already. I think that just goes to show you how wild
it really was out of a week. And you know, Odell Beckham was still pretty successful against Jalen Ramsey in that matchup and the fact that they were able to move him around a little bit. He had the eleven receptions for a hundred and eleven yards. Look, we're about forty minutes into the show. We haven't even mentioned Ryan fits Magic yet. Tampa Bay Bucks knocking off the New Orleans Saints. So fantasy fireworks in that game, I mean all around, uh fits Magic four touchdowns, he added a
rushing touchdown. It's five total touchdowns everybody eight in that game in the Tampa Bay Bucks passing attack, Mike Evans eight. Chris Godwin scored a touchdown. He didn't have a huge game for a touchdown. You're right, the tight ends didn't do their thing, but Seawan Jackson two touchdowns and then on the other side, Michael Thomas, history game, Alvin Kamara. Efficiency still there, it's in. The efficiency is still there. But we'll talk a little bit about this Tampa Bay
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Johnson and the Miami Dolphins defense. If you went to the optimizer and you ran the settings Perry QB with a wide receiver from hit his team plus a wide receiver from the opposing team in your lineup, it would have threw out one of these lineups, which is awesome and at the same time incredibly frustrating because that could have been one of us him. It could have been you know, look, David Johnson though, was definitely a bit
of a surprise in in the bad way. He did not put up the monster numbers we expected him to do against that defense. Um, you know, that was definitely a surprise, and of course for me personally, it's the one who hurt me the most was of course, uh the set aforementioned uh wide receiver from New England who did absolutely nothing yesterday. But uh, you know, that's just the way it is. That's how it works. You gotta
hit the right combination every week. And you know that optimizer is is a good way of trying to put together a team based on you know, a certain stack that you want to use or certain method you want to use. And I definitely implore people to try and use it more often. Yeah, while we're talking about DFS and fatable, we had the BFF concepts that we spoke about last week. I was tweeting out about it. Shout out to Ron Cafferty. The mailman was in first place
right now. Of the BFF five dollar entry we had eighteen people. Twenty people joined the community, but not all twenty people entered their lineup, which was a very weird thing and I don't know why, but I actually had Alex Collins in that lineup. Who was the guy who destroyed me yesterday? Yeah, another guy who just looked like it is in a perfect place to put up big numbers. Uh, fumbles the ball. They benched him for a while. Uh, and then when the game got out of hand, they
benched him again. And you know that just really just took him out of the game. Let's talk about this here because I have him under the bad category. From week one. We spoke a lot about the good. Um, we're gonna get to that Bucks and Saints game, but one of the bad things that happened here was Alex Collins. Now, Jim, I, I don't know if you pay attention much to why I liked the season, but Alex Collins was certainly one of them. I was an Alex Collins through thur coming
into the year, was very excited about him. I thought the metrics showed last year that he was a very valuable running back, proved that he could be a workhorse really in the second half of the season. Now you tell me, am I painting this picture last half full because I'm an Alex Collins optimist, or do you have a different take on this situation because the way I look at it is he scored the first touchdown so early on in the game, I think he was their
main running back. After he fumbled, You're right, they benched him for a few series. He did see him come out in the second half. He had a few carries in that second half. But in my opinion, once this game got out of hand, I mean, we even sold Lamar Jackson in this game, it seemed like they really just benched all of their starters. I mean, even Willie Sneed scored a touchdown. All all three running backs here
scored a touchdown, from Buck Allen to Kenneth Dixon. So in my opinion, you should be worried a little bit that he fumbled and he got bench, but I also think it was the fact that they were just blowing this team out. I'm very interested to see on Thursday night how the running back usage um plays out between with all these Ravens running backs. Now I'm still on with Collins. Look, look, you know, Buck Allen is gonna
be Buck Allen. He's gonna be that third down back, come in, catch a few passes, do what he does. But you know, Collins is going to be the main guy. I'm not really worried about Dixon coming in. Like he said in the in the second half, the game was well out of hand. They didn't really need Collins to go in and beat Collins. When they need Collins be coins in a tight game, then we're gonna see him
more often. I trust him more than I do Dickson. Uh, and we'll see him, you know, get twenty carries in a game and start to put up the kind of numbers we expected. Yesterday just wasn't that day, And I think that was more game flow than anything else. Oh, Jim Day, I could kiss you. That's music to my ears. That's what I love to hear. As an Alex Collins
owner in multiple leagues. I'm with you. I'm I'm gonna be very zoned in on this Thursday night game to make sure that Alex Collins is the guy in what should be a closer matchup against the Bengals. You know those a f C North matchups are usually hard hitting, a low scoring close games. So I think, um, we'll find out in that game if Alex Collins is the workhorse the Saints versus Bucks game. Jim absolutely wild. I mean, you had the Saints as your survivor pick. I'm sorry,
but you're gone. The Bucks come into New Orleans and blow blow the doors off of the New Orleans Saints. Honestly, I mean fits magic four yards, five total touchdowns mentioned. Everybody in this past game was involved except the tight ends, which was actually kind of a letdown in this matchup. I'll throw this out there. Can Ryan Fitzpatrick steal this job from Jamis Winston and be a top twelve quarterback?
That's the overreaction aspect of this. But is it because he finishes the top twelve quarterback back In when he played with the Jets, he threw for thirty one touchdowns and he rushed for two more. So we know that when he's surrounded by good weapons. That year he had Brandon Marshall, he had every decker, he had a great offense. He can produce. He can produce for fantasy. It might not be the prettiest thing in real life for NFL purposes, but Ryan Fitzpatrick can produce. So I'll I'll throw two
questions out to you. Can Fitzpatrick be a top twelve quarterback? And can he steal Jamis Winston's starting job. He absolutely could steal Jamis Winston's starting job. Look, even the general manager said it, you know in preseason. Look, there's no guarantee that Winston's gonna come back in week four and still have a job. There's no guarantee. They're tired of his antics, they're tired of his off off the field crap, and you know they wouldn't be afraid to move on,
especially after this kind of game that Fits had. We know Fits is a guy that loves to throw the ball. He's gonna go out there, he's gonna pound the ball downfield all game. And you know with the receivers they have, especially DeShawn Jackson. I mean, look, DeShawn Jackson almost had another big, long, third touchdown pass yesterday. Could have been amazing, uh, amazing day, and it wasn't already amazing day. He looked
as fast as he's ever looked. And if that's still a case, Fits is gonna have no problem trying to get the ball down the field to him. He loves to chuck the ball. Now, the one problem with Fits is, if you look at his career, he loves to get off the big starts early in the season and then at some point there's a game where the bottom just falls completely out. But if he gets these next few weeks and has games even you know he's not gonna have the game he had yesterday. I just don't see
that every week. But if he has games that where he's putting them in contention to win every week and he's putting up points, then there's a very good chance that when Jay miss Winston comes back, he's sitting on
that he could easily get while he pipped here. Yeah, and those games that where the bottom really falls out for Ryan Fitzpatrick, it really comes in like clutch matchups when you meet Ryan Fitzpatrick most, because I can tell you as a Jets fan they had a chance to make it to the playoffs in Week seventeen against the Buffalo Bills. Back kind of Ryan Fitzpatrick dew. He goes out there with the snow flur, He's falling down one yards,
two touchdowns and three interceptions. When you need Ryan Fitzpatrick most in a real life clutch situation, he will crumble every single time. And they were bad interceptions too. I remember the bad Bill's team that was not a good Buill team. I remember two of them explicitly, and yeah, they just strows he shouldn't have made and tried to force something that shouldn't happen, and he does have a tendency to do that. But it was nice watching him in all his glory yesterday. He was having fun, he
was enjoying himself. And as long as he's doing that, he's not gonna be afraid to step on that to wing the ball all over the place. And you know, the one effect of that is that he's never been a big usage of the tight end guy. Uh. They have two pretty good tight end receivers on this team that may not see much. With Fitzpatrick on the field, he's gonna look for those wide receivers pretty much all
the time. On the same side of things, I want to paint this, I mean, obviously for fantasy purposes, it was. It was amazing. It was phenomenal. I mean, Michael Thomas, but of a forty burger In PPR leagues, we're talking about sixteen eight How many receptions that even have sixteen or eighteen, I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous. Believe it was sixteen receptions for a hundred and eighty yards. He had to touchdown as well, so for PPR he was
absolutely amazing. Alvin Kamara, I mean all off season. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna speak for you, Jim, but what I said about Alvin Kamara is there's no way he can repeat the type of efficiency he had in terms of yards per attempt, yards per target, UH, scoring touchdowns at the rate that he did. Only did yesterday seventeen touches to get forty six point one PPR points. Jim,
He's gonna be a top three running back. I mean, I think the way that this works here is if the Saints defense is really this bad once again, if we go back to the Saints defense being as bad as it was in years past, Drew Brees is a top three quarterback once again, Michael Thomas is a top three wide receiver, and Alvin Kamara is a top three running back. If this defense is as bad as it was two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, we thought that the Saints defense hadn't proved they did
last year. But I don't know what the hell happened in Week one this week against the buckshot Ah. Yeah, they definitely were not ready for this game in any way shape or for him. I'm talking about the defense anyway for New Orleans. Uh, I'm with you. I have no idea. I had no idea that they would come out and play this bad game, uh in Week one. But I'm also happy because, like you said, it's great
for fantasy owners. I'd love to see Drew Brees and these guys you know, continue to play like this, have to throw the ball all time, put up fantasy points. That's really good for fantasy owners. So you want to see that. The thing that I really loved with this was not only that Thomas had sixteen catches. I love that he had sixteen catches on seventeen targets. That to me, that that's just that just shows you, once again how good Drew Brees is. Yeah, it's absolutely unbelievable. The same
page that these guys are on. I agree with you. That was something that stood out to me. That type
of just efficiency. Again, I mean the word we use it a lot for Alvin Kamara, we use it for running backs, right, but to haul in sixteen of seventeen targets, you know, that's what holds other guys back on other teams, right, Like guys like Mike Evans, who consistently have low catch rates because they have guys like Jameis Winston and Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing them balls all over the field that are awry, Like, yeah, he's gonna get peppered with targets, but he's only gonna
catch about them. So for Michael Thomas to come in here and get seventeen targets and hold in sixteen of those, absolutely phenomenal. Um, if you're a Saints fan. Obviously the game sucked, but for fantasy purposes, Drew Brees, Alvin Kamara, and Michael Thomas. If this defense is terrible, I'm telling you all three of those guys could be top three
at their position this year. Right now, we need to sign off the video portion online on YouTube, if you're watching us on Facebook Live, Um, if you're watching us on Periscope, we're gonna sign off. We're gonna continue on the radio portion here. I'm just gonna talk about the Chiefs real quick, and then I'll get Jim Days predictions for Monday Night football. Mike j e t S Jets, Jets, Jets. Sam Donald Era begins against the Detroit Lions. So I
wanted to talk about Tyreek Hill. We're talking about efficiency, right, Wow, you can't talk about efficiency without Tyreek. Hill had eight targets which led to teams seven receptions, a hundred and sixty nine yards, two touchdowns, oh and a ninety one yard punt return touchdown. You finished wide receiver four last year. Jim On a hundred and five targets. If he sees seven targets per game, that's a hundred and twelve over sixteen game pace. Is he the most electrifying player you've
ever watched him? Because you look, admittedly you've seen a lot more football than I have. I'm not I'm not. I'm not ready to say the most electrifying ever. But definitely a guy that you know doesn't need a ton of targets to make them pay. And now he's got a quarterback that loves to play the same type of game. Just run down the field, I'll get you the ball. And you know again, Sammy Watkins was not really involved in this. Uh. I couldn't say that enough in preseason
that I wasn't a Watkins guy. I don't think he's you know, I think he's talented. He just never seems to put it together with whatever team he's on. But Hill and Mahomes had a had a rapport right from the get go in preseason. Mahomes loves to chuck it down the field. And you know, we also saw that Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelsey were not involved in his
passing game at all. That's gotta be a little scary for you as owners of them, because if Mahomes isn't looking to check down at all to either one of these guys, you've taken two major offensive players right off the board. Yeah, Kareem Hunt especially. I look, I have Kareem Hunt. I have multiple shares this year. Um. This is the first game in his career that he's played where he didn't have a reception. He only had one
target in this game. So yeah, like you mentioned Patrick Mahomes not checking down in these games, I will say the one positive because you know, as an owner of these players, right like when I look up Alex Collins and I look up Kareem Hunt, I try to I try to find the positive, something good that I could take away from this because I try to make myself feel better for drafting these players who have bad week ones.
His shoes matched, His shoes match there you go. Kareem Hunt his using his usage in week one, seventy of the snaps the running back snaps here, uh sixteen of twenty of the rushing attempts for the running backs um, and he had one of two targets. So they just really didn't use the running backs all that much. I will say that the Jet sweeps that they used Tyreek Hill and the Anthony Thomas on down on the goal
line was very, very very frustrated to watch. Jim I mentioned we'll give predictions for tonight the first game the Jets in Detroit plus seven right now or the Jets. Who do you have in this game? And do you think they could cover the spread because it seems kind of big for the Detroit Lions. I think they do cover the spread. I think the Jets are gonna be a little better. And people give him credit for I think Donald is going to be better than people think.
You know, he's got some good weapons there. Robby Anderson showed last year that he could be a number one receiver in this league. Prior's back, they got a new new back. Um, the running game is gonna be a little shallow. I'm not sure what we get out of crow L. But I do like that Powell will be involved. I think in this one heavily as a receiver. So you know, I think the Jets keep this a game. I think that defense is enough to keep this in
a game. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's under the forty five points that Vegas has them at right at this point over under, So I'm gonna take the under here. I think the Jets keep it tight, but I do think they lose. I'm thinking somewhere along the line of I think it's a good call. I'm with you as a Jet fan. I don't know that they go in and win this game, but I think they can keep it close. I like the Jets too. I like this to be a field goal game. I
could see one, uh seen. Like you said, I'm with you. I don't love the under, but if I hat to choose one, I would take the under as well. Real quick, Jim, we only have a minute left, Rams minus four and a half on the road tonight against Jon Gruden and the Boys. The Oakland Raiders actually got this game when the Rams were minus four, so I actually think they put a beating down on the Raiders to night. I'm
with you. I do think I have the Rams going to the super Bowl, so I definitely think they I also I also had to charge its going to the super Bowl back to work out, so well, so yeah, I like the Rams. I think the Rams come out and beat up Oakland. I'm not sure Oakland's ready for this.
I'm not saying it's gonna be a, you know, big time beat down, but I'm looking for something like maybe twenty seven seventeen for Fantasy Taz Jim Day, Chris Venture the analyst, I am Frank Stanfield coming up next to you. Here the Fantasy Football Frenzy with Corey Parson, where he tries to tell you where the Dallas Cowboys are actually not that bad
