NFL Week 9 Recap, Reaction, Results And New Questions!

us there. Enjoy the show and thanks for listening. You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy best Friends Forever. M to to to to Do Do to Do Do Do Do Do Do don to Yeah, this is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside for Ranky Saville. I am Greg sauce Man Frank. What's going on Monday? Greggy? You know what we're just talking about? It not the greatest NFL week for your boy, I'm sorry, buddy, not the best. But what happened? What

happened Week nine? Nearly in the books. We have a slobber knocker tonight and the Cowboys and the Titans. Two Markey matchups yesterday, Greg, only one of them moved up to the hyper. One of them was awesome, absolutely awesome. One of them was awesome. Under not correct in that game? That was incorrect. What were the bets that you had? Again? Over events Friday and took the Bucks? But but the Bucks is exactly what I expected them to do. Did

exactly what everyone expects. They just didn't get all the way there. That was the issue. They they Yeah, they almost did it though, Tampa Bay, which was incorrect. Did you say Washington and to Houston, which was correct? And I took the new incentation Man which was correct? And you took the Green Bay. He took Green Bay, that was correcting. Every you took over in New England that was cracked right over Newton over for the game, Greg and Alf didn't get there. Oh I'm so sorry. And

then you took the under in Detroit. Wasn't a great weekend? Is that was that right? Wondering the tree? I got that right. Yeah, it actually been on that too, So that's good. You're one in two, which brings our totals here. I am now twelve and twelve. You are thirteen and eleven. There's job, frankness, job just barely holding on to one point lead. Others read a few names from my home league squad. I was I was facing a three and

five team. I was five and three. I faced the one in sixteen, I was six and two in seven team? Did you how did you do well? Frank kirk Cousins six point eight, Kenyan Drake five point five, Doug marts And seven point four, Lean Edelman right spot fourteen point three, great good, Mike Evans two point one, Tammy Watkins eight point nine, Chris Herndon at eight point to, Isaiah Roll six point five, Joe Flacco eight point two. I have the Cowboys kicker tonight. That's great Jets defense, the one

bright spot of the entire Jets yesterday. Well, Elijah McGuire as well, you're getting into that later on. Uh for Meggie, Um, I started to Vante book and he started touchdown. I was like, I told you, and I saw that. I was like great. I was like, I gotta win now, you know. Jordan Reed at five point four. It was wasn't great. It wasn't great. Um, maybe that Marty Cooper will be and acted tonight, then I'll have a shot to win. Really how much you I'm down five and

I have Ryan suck up okay against Mary Cooper. So here's where everything went wrong, to be honest with you, Michael Thomas, the last seventy seventy two yard touchdown, because also it will look so it was a fifteen point swing if I was up ten with Ryan stuck up against Marty Cooper. I feel I feel good, you know, um, but I don't. So then I went into Sunday Night Football, um having Davante Adams against Aaron Jones, Jimmy Graham and m V S and all of them did quite well. Nice, No,

not not frank they quite opposite of nice. That was a team that literally is one in seven on a six game losing streaks. When I had to have and I didn't, go, Hey, that's the that's a joy of fantasy football, right, anybody could beat anybody. Not joyful, Sorry, but not a great weekend for the BFF. How was the rest of your week? But it but it was a good week of the BFF because we won. We didn't. We're up twelve and he has gallop. I feel I feel good about that. I mean, I feel really good

about that. Yeah, we we have greater than a fifty chance to win. But it's not like in the bag. I took it scored a touchdown, we lose. Oh he doesn't know, we don't. He's only cast ten your touchdown, easy win. Boom. I'm not as confident. I'm just you really don't think we're gonna You are pessimistic, man, I feel great about tonight. No, well, look you got you don't want to be too optimistic. You would be too confident and then he shut yourself, set yourself up for disaster. Greg.

It's kind of like the way I live my life. Can't be too optimistic about stuff and then and then it tears you down. Um, we buy any means, didn't win you. I'm optimistic about this one. Man, really optimistic. Let's go. Let's go, BFF, let's do it now. Now is the time. If not now, then when Gregg probably never Michael Thomas, he was awesome yesterday the Saints Rams game. That game was awesome yesterday. Back and forth, Sean McVeigh

versus Sean Payton, um as Sean paytonson. After the game, we heard that they were gonna match up Marcus Peters against Michael Thomas. We like their chances. Yeah, and if you saw him the touchdown, right, they kept replaying this Marcus Peters wasn't even set. What are you doing, dude, You're guarding Michael Thomas, and Marcus Peters is like looking around, he's like talking to other people, like trying to get set.

And once Michael Thomas saw that, he was like, all right, I'm just gonna blow past this guy, throw me a touchdown. Look at while it burned you, and it certainly burned a lot of people for Fantasy, I'm sure you know, we always have to talk about the other side of that, and I'm sure it helped a lot of people propelled them into you know, DFS winnings, uh, into Regulatar season matchup wins as well. So, uh, it was a fun game. I I enjoyed the fact that the Rams bounced back.

I think we all kind of knew that would happen because heading into half time, you know, you're watching that game and you're thinking, oh, here we go. You know, it was just supposed to be a Marquee matchup. We're getting a blow out here. But then the Rams come out of the half, um they're hot, and you know this is actually one of the first, uh you know, not incredibly dominant games from time Gurley, so so that was interesting, but um, all the Rams wide receivers showed up.

Robert Woods didn't score a touchdown, but again consistently seventy yards every Severe game. Cooper Cup had to touchdown late forty one yard or um. Maybe not still, but I mean he did enough. He gave you a touchdown. Obviously. Brandon Cooks the revenge game against the Saints did what he was supposed to. I think the storyline from this game, obviously, outside of Michael Thomas doing what he did two eleven yards absolutely ridiculous game. Mark Ingram we got, I mean

we got to talk about marketing. We do because market sucks. Yeah, he had, he had ten touches in his game. Looked like he was going to be banished after he bumbled back, came back in. But the most frustrating part about mark Ingram is that we waited all a year and we thought that he would be the coal line back. Avan Kamara scores two goal line touchdowns. Greg mark Ingram certainly trending down right now for fantasy purposes. In an offense

that you know has been great. The Saints are scoring point I mean in a game they scored forty five points. Mark Ingram has thirty three rushing yards and three receiving yards, thirty six total yards and a fumble loss in a game where they scored forty five points. It was clear or that that week when he came back, it was to give the Alvin Camara the rest, right, Like, let's give him this week, we have by next week and then we go full throw them back to Alvin Camara.

And that's exactly what they've done. The goal line carries that mark Ingram was actually in on the play before, and they took him out, brought Kamara in and they gave him that goal line carry. It's clear Camara is their best back. We knew this already and he was just outstanding yesterday. Truly truly was mark Ingram not a threat? Who would you rather own right now, Frankie, mark Ingram

Kenyan Drake is death an option. No, uh, I'll still take Kenyan Drake just because what we saw in those final games, Like, I'm just gonna continue to hold onto that. Like if at any point Adam Gates realizes how talented Kenyan Drake is, then you could potentially have a RB one on your hands, But that likely isn't going to happen, but it's more likely to happen than mark ingram one. You know, like the only way that that's going to happen is if Alvin Kamar gets hurt. So you're depending

on injury there. At least with Kenyan Drake, we've seen that if he gets a full workload, which is still relatively possible. I you know, I posted a story yesterday on Twitter. It made no sense to me. Adam Gaze. Uh, you know, basically, he didn't give Kenyan Drake a touch in the second half. Grade had one target and in the second half, and you know, for whatever reason, I don't have a reasonable explanation. I watched this entire game ye Dolphins. It was absolutely disgusting. The guy didn't get

his first carry until the second quarter. I know that Frank Gore was like chasing the Barry Sanders scrimmage yards record because that's all they were talking about throughout the game. So maybe that was Adam Gates's reasoning, like, oh yeah, you know, we gotta get Frank or twenty carries, damn carries.

It makes no sense. A story that I posted said, you know, Drake knows that there were plays drawn up for him It's just that every time we drew up a play for him, Todd Bowls and the Jets knew that when he was on the field that they were

sending extra help to try and stop Kenyan Drake. So, I mean, whether that's true or not, I mean, maybe Todd Bowls made it, uh, you know, a defensive game plan that whenever Kenyan Drake was on the field, they were gonna, you know, make sure that there's someone guarding him out of the backfield as a receiver or you know, stack the box. And you know, they really were saying, all right, let's let anybody else on the Dolphins offense beat us behind besides Kenyan Drake. Maybe that's a chance,

but you still give the guy a shot. Man. I mean, come on, dude, why twenty carries for Frank Gore? What what did Dan Drake have? Three now in the red zone? In the red zone, there way a couple of times to Kennyan Drake. The Jets, as you mentioned, sniffed out immediately. And it's frustrating because the Jets defense is actually pretty good. Like they talking about the lack of talent on the offensive side of the ball, and then deveni't have the ball,

they're good. They allowed six points in this game because seven of them score seven of thirteen Scordin at pick six six actually because the extra point is to the defense. Six points last by the by the Jets defense. Yesterday

they were phenomenal. But I mean this the Jets franchise again, Like the only hope I have for them is seeing what happened with Jared Goff and his rookie year and Trebinsky in his rookie year and seeing a creative offensive mind come in and you know, turn those young players around before you know, they can have their confidence shatter, before they start developing bad habits. Because Sam Donald right now, look he was he he was to blame yesterday partially,

but the guy has nothing to work with. If you're watching the game, I mean the center. Every single snap that Sam Donald's taking the shotgun is he's catching it up here, he's catching it down low. On the one that he threw the pick six, he had to catch up with one hand and reel it in like it's not his fault. The offensive line is garbage. He's getting absolutely no help. There's no playmakers, there's no run game, vanilla play calling. Sam Donald. I mean he's he's in Uh.

There there's possibility here that they they're starting to ruin Sam Donald, and it's it's pretty tough to watch. But the Jets offense overall, I mean, you just you can't start anybody on this offense right now. Elijah McGuire might creep into the flex discussion. He played more snaps and Correll yesterday was a little bit more explosive. Seven carries

for thirty yards four point three yards per carry. Uh, and you know what, they lined them up out wide a few times, which I thought was interesting because the team is void of offensive weapons, so they were using McGuire at a wide receiver at times, putting him out wide, and he called a quick slant, took it for twenty yards. You look good. I think. You know, if he starts to get anywhere from ten to fifteen touches consistently, he's

gonna be in that flex discussion. If you could just overtake Crow well, I mean you might have an RB two on your hand. What is the game total on Sunday of the Jets and the Bills? I just looked it up. His thirty six and a half was tweeting with flurial about it last night. I said, my guess is thirty seven points seven with me the total? Yeah, it was good. Um, thirty six and a half's probably talking about good football teams, not the Jetlphins. The You know,

the Dolphins are the biggest enigma in the NFL. They're a wild card contender right now. They're five and four. They're not a good football team. Frank Gore, Baby, what I'm telling you. They're not a good football team. And they're five and four and they still have to play the Bills twice, so they might get two more easy wins there too. The Dolphins are gonna like barely make the playoffs this year, and they're just they're not a good team. They beat up on bad teams so far.

They beat the Jets twice, they beat the Raiders. They're not a good football team. It's crazy that they're They're over also not a good football team. They teach right, Lions, they're bad. Huh. You know what we want to talk about enigmas. The Dolphins are the enigma of the a f C. The Lions. Like the Lions have a win against the Patriots and the Packers this year and then they do what they did yesterday. The offensive line basically just didn't show up in Minnesota. I don't know they

didn't take the flight there. I mean, were they out drinking the night before. I don't know what happened. But Matthew Stafford sect ten times yesterday and couldn't get the ball. I mean, it's not his There were some of those sacks were like, he looked like rookie sacks, like you need to be able to feel the pressure and know that you're holding onto the ball too long. A few of those were definitely on Stafford, but the offensive line

just didn't show up. And you know, it's tough sledding for carry on Johnson moving forward to who you know saw the majority of the running back carries here. There were seventeen running back carries. He had twelve of them, but he only went for three point one yards for carry. He has a very tough schedule coming up, faces the Bears twice in his next three games. Marvin Jones was okay in this game, not what we expected. Eight targets, six or sixty six, Okay, that's fine. I think we

expected more. Kenny Golladay, right, I mean, only four targets in a game where you know, we thought with golden take on, Kenny Gollady would step up. I had him in my DFS lineup. You know a lot of people did as well. Uh it didn't work out. Lions. Lions look like a mess of a team right now, Greg, for both NFL and fantasy purposes. Yeah, they're they're just complete mass carry on Johnson to be a disaster. Yesterday with the a Ridic returning as something we kind of

saw coming from the Ridic. I mean, if you if you just want to talk about PPR, he might have been dropped because to he said he missed because of injury. He is the guy who's going to fill that golden tape void and I brought that up as a possibility to speak as well. I don't think we spent money on the other schmucks. I mean, you didn't spend much, so it doesn't really hurt. But yeah, theiol Ridic tied for the most targets on the team yesterday in his

first game back. Eight targets, seven receptions, thirty six yards. He's never gonna give you a ton of yards, might not score touchdowns, but just talking about you know, like that Jalen Richard range of flex PPR running backs stock is now in that. Again, I agree with that, but do you want to remind you that the offensive line so so terrible yesterday. If Detroit allowing all those sacks that he had very very little time to look about to Staffords, it was dump dump dump dump. Duvets would

change though, you know he is a free, good divisive line. No, they do. They definitely do that have a good pass rush. And again I thought the Lions offensive line was going to be great coming into because you're all over because on paper, they invested in the draft. They you know, they put money into their offensive line. And there were games this year when we saw harry On Johnson running well and we dire want with the multiple touchdowns rushing

in games where the offensive line looked pretty good. So maybe there will be games where they bounce back. But again talking about games with the Bears coming up, I mean that's another team of a great defensive line, a great gass rush. We could see more of these games where Stafford just needs to get rid of the ball fast, and that's gonna be theoretic who benefits? All right, So there you go, um on the other side for Minnesota, Cayli Rudolph almost fell on the touchdowns. That was cool,

but not so much. What were you take away from this was what Frank very frustrated about on Friday. Was Dalvin Cook going to be active and what he was going to do and what he was gonna take away from Latavious Murray. They had the same amount of carries ten each. Obviously, Dalvin Cook had the seventy yard run which looked great. Um the rest of his nine carries went for nineteen yards, right, So what did you make

out of that? I thought it was It's a positive for Dalvin Cook definitely, the fact that he's able to break a seventy yard run, hit top speed and not reinjure his hamstring on the play. I felt very be positive about that. In actually played more snaps than Latavius Murray in his first game back. Two before the game they said ten to twenty snaps. He actually almost got up to thirty. So if you own Lettavius Murray, I'm

worried about that. I'm very excited about Dalvin Cook. He gets to buy coming out that by out of feelings, worst game to year yesterday as well, you BFS. We're back this Daily Rhodo dot Com learned from the game's best DFS players. We don't just give you premier advice. We play every day, all major sports, all year round. We never stopped industry leading DFS tools and custom projections and now Daily Rodo dot Com Optimizer in minutes building

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NFL season, the narrative just keeps changing. The story keeps changing, and that's kind of how I felt in Washington yesterday, where we thought the Washington Redskins were a team with a very very good defense with we're a team that was going to rely on the running game to be successful and at home they got completely walloped by the Atlanta Falcons yesterday thirty eight of fourteen, with Adrian Peterson

having nine carries for seventeen yards. Their leading receiver was Super Harris at ten receptions for a hundred and twenty four yards. Um, what's going on with the Washington football team, Frank, that's when you think you know, you don't know. Man, Look Washington, they were coming into this game. They've They've played great defense, Alex Smith has done just enough, He's game managed just enough. Adrian Peterson seems like he found the fountain of youth and everything kind of crumbled in

this game. I would say the one worry and I've I heard some people talking about this last week, whether it was on Games on Decision Decisions with Gabe trying to handicap this game. They said, look, if the Falcons get up, does Washington have enough offensive firepower to fight back? And the answer was clearly no. And but honestly, the defense didn't show up either. I mean, to allow thirty eight points on your home field, I understand it's the Falcons.

It is a really good defense. And Matt Ryan, you can argue the way he's playing this year better than its MVP year, which is crazy to say. If you go down and look at his game lock the guy only has like three interceptions on the season. He's been phenomenal. It seems like he's throwing over three yards multiple touchdowns on a weekly basis right now, and I'll I will admit I thought that one season for Matt Ryan, and I've openly said this was an anomaly, like his MVP

season was an anomally. You look at everything else, It's all right, He's between twenty and twenty five touchdowns, he throws double digit interceptions like not a great fantasy quarterback. This year is completely different. He's been asked to take on more of the offensive workload because the defense is extremely injured. Yesterday they were just pouring it on. I know a lot of it was like screen passes that

worked out well for him. But when you have a lets like the Falcons do stuff like that is gonna happen. Because Julio Jones, you throw him a screen pass behind the line of scrimmage. Finally, we should be throwing a party right now. Julio Jones, of course, his first touchdown of the season in Week eight of the NFL Okay. This was Week nine. Hard to keep up with what week it is anymore, but Julio Jones Week nine. Kevin

Coleman two receiving touchdowns, Calvin Ridley another perceiving touchdown. A lot of them were just like you know, close to the line of scrimmage, and his awesome athletic offensive playmakers made plays after it. So, uh, shout out to the Falcons getting it done here. But I would say the majority of people who were trying to read this Washington game, we're dead wrong, and they will admit that as well. Yeah, I mean very obviously dead wrong. Dude. Um, I thought

that Gant. I want to start with Washington, but you kind of go at Glanta Julio Jones. That's true, right, like you asked me about Washing that I end up talking about it line. I'm sorry, it's it's it's fine man, Like Julio Jones is awesome yesterday and he continued to do what he did and he finally got in the end zone. Um, and you you saw it everyone. This is the big narrative today. How happy the team was for him and he's such a leader and that's great.

That that that's fantastic. Um. They trying to get Calvin Ridley involved early didn't really work. He had a couple of drops, um, but came back with a big, foody yard touchdown where he weaved in his way, used that speed and breakaway speed. That worked out well. Targeted the second most to Julio yesterday at nine times. So if you're a Calvin Ridley owner, you're obviously pumped about that. I've also seen a lot today narrative wise, that Mohammed

Sannew really taking back seat. I don't know if that's true. I had to look at the snap count, which I haven't seen yet, but SNeW was seemingly out there every play. He's their best run blocking wide receiver, that's for sure, um, but his role is much closer to the line of scrimmage than Calvin Ridley's. For fantasy purposes, you're gonna I'd rather have Ridley than Sanu, but I wouldn't just drop sanwet. I still think with by Weeks still rolling, I have

no problem owning and potentially starting Mohammed Sanu. When it comes to the running game, Tevin Coldoan Edo Smith split it pretty evenly. Both had a lot of success on the ground. Coleman average six point eight yards per carry while Edo Smith average six yards to carry. But Tevin Coleman got it done in the passing game. Frank for the first time this year with five catches sixty eight

yards and those two TVs. Yeah, that's where he finally emerged, right, and we've kind of this is something we've talked about going back to last year, you know, the usage of the running backs in the past game, and see Sarkisian. You know, wasn't using Devontae Freeman last year, wasn't using Tevin Coleman all that much. So maybe there's something that

they figured out during the by. I really like when teams come out of the by and kind of click on all cylinders because that tells you, all right, maybe they figured something out during that off week, and now they're going to you know, continue to do these things moving forward. So I really really liked the past game usage out of Tevin Coleman. In this game, you know, targeted seven times. Uh, that was the season high. Five

reception season high, sixty eight receiving yards season high. Obviously, the two touchdowns. Everything in the past game for Tevin Coleman was a season high. Yesterday, on the Washington side of things, Adrian Peterson huge letdown. I know that we've talked about his consistency, we did last week about how often he's been up over ninety rushing yard. It's games like this where they fall behind, where the game script is just going to cripple Adrian Peterson's fantasy value for

that game. Uh, and we saw Capri Bibbs of all people. So volts are the red zone touched on there. If Adrian Peterson gives you that, you feel a little bit better, definitely, But he still was not good in this game. The Washington Washington just didn't show up Mo Harris though, I will say this soup, Well, sorry, what super Harris is that? His name is Maurice, but nicknames soup? Why is his nickname soup? Just enjoy a good soup, Greg, Well, it's

your favorite kind of shop. Uh. You know I'm a big fan lately of cream of tomato, even tomato very cream of potato as well. This isn't soup. All right, I'm sorry, I forget everything. Greg just talked about twelve targets for Mo Harris in this game, ten receptions a hundred four yards do I got confused? Now played the majority of the snaps out of the slot from oh Harris in this game, and to continue to say we like slot receivers and uh, there were a few plays

where Alex Smith just trusted. You can see the trust between him and Harris here next week they played Tampa Bay, so I'm sure tomorrow and we talked about the waiver wire show. Moe Harris is uh, it's going to be one of those names that that we're we're talking frequently. Super Harris. Is Marcus Harris, not Maurice Harris. That's where the confusion. Marcus Harris. What the hell is Marcus Harris New Giants. So anyway, so Maurice Harris was really good yesterday.

Without Jamison Crowder in the lineup, he obviously stuffed up in the slot. Asked, Frankie mentioned the ape touchedown of Vulture by pre Bibs and the only reason it was Vultures was because they were in a hurry of and they were going quickly. Pre Bibs was on the field, they had him the ball and he went into the end zone there. So obviously nothing to worry about when it comes to Adrian Peterson in in the passing game, Vernon Davis stepped up five or sixty two, and almost

all of that came with Jordan Reid hurt. Now, he came in eat of this game with a bit of a neck injury. He took a hard fall and a heart tackle on an incomplete pass early in the third quarter, and I you know, I watched the lot and I owned Jordan read. I didn't see him again, and I don't know if that was true or just I missed it, But its all Vernon Davis. And there's a clear connection with Alex Smith and Vernon Davis going back to the San Francisco days that he just doesn't have with Jordi Reid.

I know we were used to join Reid being peppered with targets. It doesn't work. Man playing Tampa Bay where into the box in just one moment, playing Tampa Bay next week, he wants the stiding starting tight end for this team. I'm you know, honestly, as the Jordan Reid owner, I'm hoping it's Vernie Davis. I really am. Yeah. And Jordan Reid dealing with neck and back injuries after the game too, so I spoke about that. And then yeah, obviously the production from Vernon Davis in this game. And look,

they played Tampa Bay next week. We just saw what Greg Olsen did against the Tampa Bay Bucks. We see what every offense does against the Tampa Bay Bucks defense. So yes, it would it would help fantasy owners if instead of you know, two tight ends being used, it would be just one guy. So maybe we could depend on Vernon Davis. If Jordan is out for a safe you know, six to eight targets and any time you get that out of the tight end, you're going to be close or borderline tight end one. So we'll see

what happens between these two. But if Jordan Reed is foresomiss, anytime Vernon Davis against Tampa Bay looks like a phenomenal play. Speaking of Tampa Bay Bucks, they felt yesterday twenty eight in Carolina, and as I said, we were going over our picks for the week, I had this game right, and they would get all the way down and come all the way back, and they were down just seven points late in the third cot field goal or something

like they cover you there exactly with the ball. I thought at one point it didn't work out, unfortunately, But it really was the game that a lot of us predicted. Ryan fits Patrick had four touchdowns, two disgustingly terrible interceptions. Cam Newton had two touchdowns. From the six secutive week passing um, this game really went according to the script. Christian McCaffrey was fantastic with those two touchdowns on the ground over a hundred and fifty total yards, which is awesome.

Greg Olsen's stepped up again, a lot of what we expected on both sides other than the leading wide receiver in Apple Bay, Frank, Yeah, and that was Mike Evans. In terms of targets, he was the guy he saw the most targeted in this game. Ten targets, incredibly, incredibly inefficient. Admittedly I didn't watch this entire game. I just you know, I saw the first interception that fits Magic through. He was targeting Mike Evans on that play, but just completely

overthrew him. I don't think that was the part of Mike Evans, but yeah, just not on the same page here, Which is kind of odd because all the other games this year, some thinking like fits Magic and Mike Evans actually had a pretty good connection. So ten targets only converted one of those for sixteen yards. Adam Humphreys was the guy here targeted eight times, eight receptions, eighty two yards,

two touchdowns. Just when you think you have the Tampa Bay Bucks offense figured out, Greg, Really, the one constant, the one that we could depend on right now is O. J. Howard because for the wide receivers. Yeah, we want to trust Mike Evans. We want Chris Godwin to be a thing. We want Sean Jackson to be that boom wide receiver, although we know he's boom or bust um, but yeah, I mean inconsistency. Had a Godwin can tinues to Sean

Jackson two for thirty two. Adam Humphreys and O. J. Howard the main two culprits here in the past game for the Tampa Bay Bucks. And O. J. Howard, a guy that we spoke about on Friday. I had him in all my DFS lineups. The Panthers were allowing the most Fantasy points at tight ends. It was it was just a matchup made in Heaven. Yeah, And that was one of the similarities you and I had on OURBFF fan lot up was having O. J. Howard in there. Um, we each of OJ Howard, each of the Chicago Bears defense.

So you have MDS also right now, I did not have m V had Kenny Golladay, who let me it was Golliday that we each had Ston. So yeah, I paid up for Kareem Hunt and then I worked out I thought would have a big game. Obviously, Adam Feeland scored a touchdown but really didn't live up to the value I expect him too. I knew we had some one receivers the same I had feeling and Golliday. Um, my third wide receiver was mbs is pretty good, probably

fading the Saints Rams game. Probably not had a great idea, Greg, probably not our bad um that I have, Robert Woods. I didn't because I just told not a great idea, not a great idea at all. Um. In Denver, Corton Sutton, you just mentioned Denver. In Houston, Houston wins basically thanks to Vance Joseph in the offense in Denver settling really for a fifty one yard field with Brandon mcmaddus miss and of course coming off the field at the end of the game. Didn't see, but I heard about it.

I heard Bill Bryant was like talking, I read the lifts repeatedly. Make sure I haven't right what You're an idiot. Even better, it was like it was like, thank you Vans, you dumb f It was. I hope they showed Bill and all the Texans backers in that game. We're saying the same music. A lot of people like the texasterday. I actually ended up betting on the Texas yesterday, one of one of my better bets of the day. I'll just end it there, one of the only in bets

of the day. But for Denver, Um Courtland Sutton didn't really get and all as much as we would have hoped necessarily in this one. But there was one player that really did step up for Denver with Damarius Thomas out, and that was Jeff Hireman hand receptions either yards on eleven targets well. Him and Immanuel Sanders led this team in targets. Hireman with eleven, Sanders with nine, Courtland Sutton had just five. Philip Lindsay on the ground seventeen for sixty.

Um Denver's offens well not exactly enjoyable in any way. I think it's kind of clear Jeff Hireman someone you probably want to pick up if he's out there, especially following the trade of Damarius Thomas. You wanted to see who stepped up here. We all thought it would be Courtland Sutton, and I still think better days are coming for Courtland Sutton, and he's you know, I'm very obviously the starting wide receiver two on this team now alongside

Emmanuel Sanders. So I think better days are going to come. But it's it's clear that without Damarius Thomas, they need somebody for those shorter intermediate routes, and Jeff Hireman was the biggest benefactor of those seeing eleven targets. Now, I'm not gonna buy all the in I'm not gonna say that, you know, I'm blowing a bunch of fab on him. But anytime we see a performance like this out of a tight end, it has to at least catch your eye. The one problem is the Broncos are on buy next week.

So if you add Hireman, you gotta you gotta stash him and Hope, which is very hard to do if you're like stashing two tight ends because obviously you can't use him last week. Philip Lindsay, Uh, it just continues to get the full workload as long as um, as long as Royce Freeman is out. This was the first game actually this year, Greg he was held under four point five yards for carrying a single game. Who would

you rather have going forward, Philip Lindsay or carry on Johnson? Yeah, it's a it's it could potentially be a messy situation once Royce Freeman is back in the mix here. But I'll take Philip Lindsay. He's been a little bit more explosive. I like the talent of carry on a lot, but

I just really don't like the matchups coming up here. Okay, for the Detroit Lions, that was good one yeah, and again like if Royce Freeman comes back in the mixed end, Philip Lindsay's not getting the seventeen carries he had this week the eighteen carries he had last week. He's probably more so in that thirteen four seen range while still getting his you know, three four targets a game. But I just I like the explosiveness that we've seen that

of Lindsay. Um, And I don't know what the schedule is, but I have to assume it's better than what the Detroit lines have. Let's see out of the bible of the Chargers. Steelers not a great matchup. Bengal is a good matchup, Forty is a pretty good matchup. Brown is a good match up Raiders. Yeah. So a better schedule going forward for the Broncos. Ye, all right, there you go. Um, I want to hit like Lamar Miller Houston leave back to Houston, leave about to Houston. I almost forgot that.

He almost forgot, almost forgot. You have something to report on Lamar Miller. Ger you actually so? I was watching this game and it was like, let me see who's starting for Houston since Mary's Thomas? And you know who in the backfield to start the game? Who was that? It was not Lamar Miller. It was Alfred Blue. Why do you think they would do that? Because he's better than Lamar Miller? Do you know why that? You know why? I think I have a guess, because Lamar Miller sucks.

We've been trying to tell you this, sell him, sell him, sell him? And what did you do? You didn't? And what happens now? You can't why? Because Lamar Miller sucks? Are you gonna be so mean? Are you gonna be so hard on Lamar Miller? Gelve carries twenty one yards on the day for Lamar Miller, Alfred Blue, um foreman you heard was a return during the bye week? Not so much. Maybe next week he'll start practicing. We'll see. Lamar Miller not the answer here, not the answer anywhere,

not ever the answer. Yeah, very interesting usage between him and Alfred Blue. I wonder if Lamar Miller was banged up dealing with some kind of injury coming into this one. I don't remember seeing anything like that regarding Lamar Miller, but I don't see any other reason why they would start Alfred Blue and why he would get more carries than Lamar Miller. Miller was running well too, so very interesting usage there of the running backs in Houston. I would still try and sell if you can do that.

Based on the two games that he had, I honestly thought that this was I thought he was in prime position here to have another good game. I was telling people wait till after the Roncos game because I thought he could have another solid performance and then sell him after that one. But now it looks like that window might have closed. Coming up, they have Washington and Tennessee, both teams that have been pretty good against the run. So uh yeah, it looks like we're back to Lamar

Miller the flex option rather than the RB two. Deansre Hawkins dominated yesterday ten for one of five on those toilet stargets to Marius Thomas had three chargers, three receptions. I felt like that was all in the first drive and there's nothing else after that really weird. I know that they whenever they cut to this game, there were a few times where like he didn't know what the play was. Like I saw specifically one player has to call a time out and he just he had no

idea what's going on. This is what we talked. We talked about this last week to Greg on our Trade Deadline special when we were recapping the games. I said that it's not like baseball or basketball, where you know, you get traded to a team and you just play your game. Like the in the NFL, you have to learn the play calls, you have to learn where you're supposed to be on the field. So it's going to

take some time for da Marius. I still think he's in that high end wide receiver three range moving forward. The three targets were not great, but I'd have to imagine that the more he learns the offense, the more he gets acclimated, he'll see more targets. But remember Kiki Qt did not play in this game either. I think

that's worth noting. When DeAndre Hopkins, he's twelve targets of the twenty four past attempts, Greg, he saw a fifty percent targets share in this game, which is just absolutely massive in the first game without will Fuller since the injury, so I think we're gonna continue to see a massive, massive target chair or d hop but Kiki qt is going to be back at some hopefully after the by Jordan Thomas. Just one catch for seven yeards. What's touchdown?

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Broadway Baker and they did pretty good. Twenty Fantasy points in League two ninety seven, passing yrds to Tosh instead of one interception, But overall was was pretty good Browns in general, Nick Chow, a lot of people expected big games, but Shub didn't let them down. Twenties who carries eighty five yards and a touchdown and he was very, very good. But the story was a different running back. Running back in quotations, that was Duke Johnson. Nine receptions for seventy

eight yards and two touchdowns on nine targets. Oh, that was the other wide receiver I used for Jarvis Landry, my fan duel the Juice had six catches for fifty yards and seven targets. New offensive, pretty kitchens in Cleveland. What did we learned? Yeah, we learned. We learned that Duke Johnson should have been used more while Todd Haley and Hugh Jackson was was there. I mean, Duke Johnson pretty much giving those two, uh the double birds and

getting back on the radar of fantasy owners here. I love the efficiency to nine targets, caught all nine of them, so there's already kind of a natural connection there between him and Baker. So I mean, it just raises more questions why wasn't Duke Johnson being used more by the previous coaching regime, And I think that's that's part of the reason why they're not there anymore. I will say this, Greg I looked into his ownership percentage and starting percentage

yesterday on CBS Sports, already owning seventy of league. So maybe if you play in ten teamers, you go out there and pick him up. He absolutely needs to be owned in every single PPR league. He's gonna, in my opinion, rocket up to a high inflex option in PPR every single week. We saw how good that he can be or PPR purposes last year he finished as a what top fifteen, top twelve running back last year for PPR.

We know how good he can be. And this is a team right now that is void of offensive weapons. Outside of Jarvis Landry and David and Joku, they don't have a ton of pass cashing options here. So Duke Johnson, uh instantly steps up as a guy that you know they can He can catch pass out of the backfield, they can line up and the slot line them out wide. I saw the use him in multiple different ways yesterday,

So really really encouraging. And he's not the only running back I'm encouraged by here, Greg because Nick Chubb, you know, showed off. Um you know why he was drafted in the second round, and I know you might look at his line and see, oh, three point nine yards per carry. He made a few very very shifty runs on that touchdown run if you watched him, great great patients waited for the hole to open up and then ran through that.

The guy had twenty two carries yesterday. He hasn't had less than eighteen carries in a single game since Carlos Hyde has been traded. He is a bona fide high end r B two because of the way he's being used, averaging over nineteen carries a game in those three games, and proved even in a game where the Browns are losing, he's still going to get a heavy workload. So I trust Nick Chubb weekend and week out right now to get eighteen to twenty touches, even in games where they

have negative game scripts, because we just saw it happen. Yeah. Absolutely, And again a little bit different because Kansas City has a terrible run defense, and Nick was able to explit that a little bit thing is for fantasy purposes they do, but where they've been killed a lot this year is running backs catching the ball out of the back, which, again, which is what Duke Johnson did. They actually aren't terrible on a yards per carry basis and allowing rushing yards

per game. That's probably because a lot of the teams that they face they blow out, so those teams have to abandon the run. But they actually have been pretty good against actual, like pure running backs. So for Trump to go out there and still give you eighty five yards and a touchdown, I if I own him right now, I feel uh, I feel I feel pretty damn good

if you owned him and Carlos Hide. And I know it sucks you lost Carlos Hide, but in losing Carlos Hide, you gained an RB two and Nick Chubb, So it's just kind of like you traded one guy for the other. Absolutely, dude Johnson who It's frustrating because I've owned him and I dropped him pretty much everywhere, um hold on him. A few people asked me about open weekend, should I drop to Johnson? Like, let's see how the new oc uses it, because there's there's a chance and you're saying

there's a chance. And also, um, yeah, we should have realized this right that, like the USC running backs coach, so that's where he comes from. The Cleveland staff, you know, hype up, hype up Nick Chubb, hype up to Johnson. We missed that last week. Um, and we shouldn't. We shouldn't have so, Um, you know something, I don't know how we would find this information out because it's always

something that I that we learned after the game. But like Travis Kelsey being in Ohio native, apparently that was like a storyline because they asked him after the game. They were like, how does it feel to score touchdown? You were you know, you were from Cleveland. Like it seems like whenever teams go back to a place where like a players from, they make it a thing to like get that player involved. I remember last year Greg

jerck McKinnon against Atlanta. It's all the broadcast was talking about Jack McKinnon coming back to a lineup plane in the dome whatever, and he scored a touchdown in that game. So I don't know how we would keep track of like where every player is from and whether they're having a homecoming. But apparently that was like a legit storyline. Elsie coming home in Cleveland and he scored, you know,

he had phenomenally. That was a storyline. It didn't matter because you're never not but I mean that's that's a good point. But I mean for DFS purposes, like that could have been the deciding factor, Like okay, I was Uh. Tyree Hill did play for his back injury. He had four for sixty nine. Sammy Watkins at five or sixty two, so both of them pretty even. Spencer where four sixty nine out of the backfield for Kansas City. You gotta own him. If he's not owned anywhere, make sure you

make sure you grab him for the stretch run. I know, uh, and we're getting close that I think we're there. I know Eman still has twitted this out a lot. Scott Piganowski as well. This is when you gotta own the handcuffs and spencer You have next to no fab left anyway, correct spencer ware is the clear handcuff to Cream Hunt. If anything happens where it's gonna step right into this role. You want to own the running back. In Kansas City,

Cream Hunts seventeen carries ninety yards and you touchdowns. Patty Mahomes was, as you know, phenomenal as always. So it's par for the course for the Chief's offense. I think a little bit let down by what Tyre you killing Sammy Watkins did. But there's just gonna be those games where all right, this week it's Kelsey and Kareem Hunt. You just kind of gotta take the good with the bed eas. In Seattle yesterday, the seventeen Russell Wilson had him on the goal line to end the game, untimed

down to win it. David Moore drafted brutal data. Necessarily blame David more though, do you see it just barely got tipped. Now I'm gonna d got catch the ball. Now you gotta watch the play again. The tips and then the ball like that changes the trajectory and when I get it, I get it. But when it's in your chest, you gotta cash that. Man. I'm sorry, it's a hard I know you're saying, but it's a harder catching. You realize once once that fingertip hits it, it completely

changed the trajectory of the ball and everything. Like you should have called it, but I don't. I don't completely put up. It's a great play by the defender. Yes, fantastic to play the defender, but I'm you know, we disagree. You got you gotta catch the ball. I feel Russell Wilson threw it close to forty times. It was good for fantashy purposes. Yards so much six yards per tempt? Here, Greg, what are we doing. They're not pushing the ball down

the field at all. Doug Baldwin, you like the yards that he had in this game, but still does forge targets. I've mentioned, you know, wide receiver by committee and it seems weird, but look at the wide receivers on this team. Daven Moore was the most targeted wide receiver yesterday. He had seven targets, but I mean he had two for sixteen.

Tyler Lockett four targets, three for twenty two. Doug Baldwin four targets, four for seventy seven, four for seventy seven helps, And if you know, I feel like a lot of people had him in there as a as a wide receiver three. But I mean if he has the same number of targets as Tyler Lockett, I mean he very easily could have been the guy with three for twenty two. You know what I'm saying, Like the Seahawks pass catchers

right now, it's it's just a mess. And on a weekly basis, I can't rank any player higher than a wide receiver three. And I know I might get burned for like the accuracy rankings, but it's just there's no way of knowing. It's just a complete you know, all right, one, We'll just take what defenses are giving to us. Nick

Vannette was targeted eight times in this game. Ed Dixon a guy who scored a touchdown last week who we thought maybe it would be a viable tight end this week with with the six teams on a buy, he only had one target and you know he zero catches, zero receiving yards. Chris Carson was the storyline coming into this game whether he was gonna playing with the hip injury, something he's kind of dealt with all season long. It carries forty rushing yards five yards to carry. He was fine,

but left the game at halftime. We didn't see him again. I think I have a good feeling that when we do the Waiver Wire show tomorrow, Mike Davis is gonna be one of the top ads because we've seen in games that Chris Carson doesn't play fifteen for sixty two four yards of pop and he was heavily, heavily used

in the passing game. So it's now, you know, the past couple of games that Chris Carson has either not played or has been injured throughout, Mike Davis has been the guy who picks up the slack, not first round pick shot Penny Johan Petty did have that touch on the first drive, though, which I thought it was interesting of Mike Davids stepped up in the second half. It was all about him. He's clearly second running back on

this team. There's just no rhyme or reason with anything with Seattle, right, There's not There's no there's no patternet you can say that, oh oh, in this matchup, Doug Baldwin. We gotta use him in this matchup. David Moore is gonna be the most targeted wide receiver, uh, Todave or

Shot Penny is going to be used. I mean, there's no reading heat Carol and the Seahawks right now, which sucks for fantasy owners, but it's great from an NFL perspective because it makes it It makes them a team that's hard to gain plan for, and that's all they care about. From an NFL perspective. If you're trying to figure out who am I going to defend today, that that creates problems if you don't know, you know, are we gonna see for Shot Penny? Are we gonna see

Mike Davis, We're gonna see Chris Carson. That makes hard for opposing teams to game plan for the Seahawks, so it helps them for an NFL perspective, it's a complete mess for fantasy. On the other side, for the Chargers, they've released Caleb Starters this morning after he missed left uh five points on the on the board yesterday, which is just there are a few things every single year that are just locks for like the just like Julio Jones not scoring touchdowns is one of them. I thought

about this yesterday. Julio Jones not scoring touchdown. Whoever the Chargers signed to be their kicker is going to suck. I don't. It's like there's like a bad juju somewhere. Uh there, there's someone with like a voodoo doll with like the Chargers kicking it and like stabbing their leg Because every single year there's a few locks in the NFL, and the Chargers just having a terrible kicker is one

of them. Every single year. It's crazy. Since Nate Kating probably been Nating back, should probably just signed Cairo Santos and just have a good kicker. Yeah, they they've wroted the guy off the practice squad who who well, to be fair, he kicked for the Caleb Sturgeon was hurt and made all ten of his kicks like a badge. Lay believe his name is starch is. I mean it wasn't a bad kicker before this year, right was Dolphins Keenan Allen stepped up six four on ten targets. He

was all over the field yesterday. That's the big takeaway. And Melvin Gordon was awesome. Six team for one thirteen and one. Yeah, just look at the target share for Keenan Allen in this game. And again, this is what I love to see, uh, coming off the bye right with the Chargers kind of similar to the Falcons, how you know, the Falcons kind of figured out their offense

in throughout the bye. I'm not gonna say the Chargers necessarily figured their offense out, because we would still want Mike Williams to be viable here for us, but they did figure out Keenan Allen. Ten targets on twenty six passing attempts. That is a massive, massive target share there,

up over a hundred and twenty four yards. Keenan Allen never a guy who's gonna score a ton of touchdowns, but for PPR purposes, even in half PPR, this was a very very encouraging game for keen down and then Melvin Gordon, a guy who you know, we got a lot of questions about last week dealing with the hamstring injury. Worried, you know, is he going to be the next Dalvin Cook? Leonard for Nett constantly dealing with this hampshion injury kind

of shut everyone up yesterday. Sixteen carries of of the night team running back carries yesterday for the Chargers, Loven Gordon had sixteen of those incredible efficiency, seven yards of carry a touchdown. The pass game usage took a back seat here still saw four targets, only one reception. But uh yeah, if you were worried about Melvin Gordon because of the hampshtion injury, I think that you're worried no more. Greg, Yeah, absolutely that. And speaking of no more, we're done on

the video side of things. Fantasy Football Frenzy is up next. Chris Venture, Corey Parson, and Jim Day will have you covered there. If you're listening to the podcast, please like subscribe. Racics five staris to leave a comment. If you're listening to the radio, were going up for four minutes with you as we wrap up program, Frank Frank, before we get to our pick for tonight. Two games, uh, two other games yesterday that we didn't really get a chance

to get into. Um that was last night the Patriots and the Packers. A little bit an underwhelming game, I thought. Um, Josh Gordon stepped up without Rob Gronkowski. He looks locked and loaded as one of Tom Brady's new favorite targets. And and the act. It's really stepped up without Geronimo Allison and with Devaz Adams being covered, Um, it really double covers most of the night. NB stepped up in major but yeah, he had was tied for the second

most targets in this game with Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb. Uh, he's starting to show that, you know, he can make contested catches down the field. I mean NBS. You know, a guy who's well over six ft tall, he's very fast, so he can make some of these big plays. And I like to say this about young players, especially with h with one of the better quarterbacks in the league, if you start to earn their trust, they're going to

continue to go your way. So MVS looking like that high end wide receiver three packers wide receiver, which we are constantly trying to find. Who's that number two guy who can be the wide receiver three for me? Earlier on in the season it was Allison, he's banged up. As of right now, it looks like it's MVS. On the Patriots side of things. You know, it's interesting, you know, Josh Gordon, being tardy to some practices last week, said that he was going to be benched. Didn't happen up,

that's so. I mean, it's just it's kind of been a weird, weird tenure for Josh Gordon to this point. But I will say, while he doesn't look like the same athlete, the same player of years past, the Patriots are clearly clearly making it a thing to get him involved. You know, whether it's down the field. You saw on the red zone when they were in the red zone, they threw him the goal line. Uh you know, back shoulder passed, which was like a slip on his part.

It was not great. The touch that he scored. That was pure mastery of Tom Brady, just manipulating the defense looking off both corners to the to the screen pass. They both bit through the Josh Gordon. The rest was history there and look, James White man, James White just continuing to get it done. The guys an absolute monster for fantasy purposes. Um, yeah, it's more of the same

from him. Uh. Sony Michelle hopefully gets healthy throughout the by but I mean, this knee injury could continue to be a thing for Sony Michelle the rest of the season. Last game Bills and Bears, we stayed in the last nothing there. Jordan Howard stepped up um because half of Bill's team, the Bears defense, was the obvious playing but then we played him. Yeah. Shout out to our guy Michael Florida who has been banging the drum for Jordan

Howard as a by low candidate. We we mentioned the uh the matchups against the Detroit Lions coming up two of the next three games. Detroit hasn't been able to stop anybody on the ground, even with acquiring snacks Harrison. We just saw what Dalvin Cook did with that seventy yard run. Well, Tavius Murray also escored a rushing touchdown, So continue to use your running backs against the Lions. Jordan Howard looks like he's in a great position and

moving forward. Titans are visiting Jerry World tonight. Monday Night football spreads down a five and a half. I believe Dallas favorite Frank and he got with the five and a half points. I will I'll take Tennessee. I think this is a closer game, three or four point game. I'll also take the over as well, and I like Tennis Emo, I will annoyingly take Dallas and the under. I will completely separate from you. That's what happens, Frank Standfell. My name is Greg Susman. Thank you so much for

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