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You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Fantasy best Friends Forever to Do to Do dodd Dot to Do didn Yo, says the Fantasy best Friends Trevor here on the Fantasy Sports Ringer Network alongside Frankie Staffle. I am Greg susmang. What's going on Monday, Gray. We had a great game last night between the Chiefs and the Broncos

and nail biters down to the wires. We also had the debut of the Halloween Baking Championship and so Patrick Mahomes finally didn't throw for multiple touchdounds but three yards and she barely avoided getting eliminated. He had two really good cakes made, but he avoided elimination and unfortunately Brian Long Island is out. Patrick Mahomes also ran for a touchdown. Kareem Hunt had his best game of the season, nineteen rushes for a hundred and twenty one yards and a touchdown.

He was targeted more in this game than he was targeted the entire season coming into this game. Four targets, three receptions, City, four yards time South, Kareem Hunt, Greggy, it maybe time to sell Koreem Hunt, but it's not time to sell Sicily from the Halloween Baking Championship. I know she had a really rough first episode, but listen, I think you can get back on the horse. I think she's an a pressient baker. It was just a really, really tough night. Greg. I do have to commend you

for something you said yesterday. You spoke a lot about not streaming bad players and good matchups. Case Keenum bad player, good matchup, not good, not good at all yards zero. It's a donut in the touchdown department. One interception. For those of you who needed monster games out of Emanuel Sanders and to Marius Thomas in order to win your fantasy matchup, you probably didn't. Probably didn't. It's it's interesting. I need I told you yesterday off the air. I

had case Keenum and it was a tough matchup. Didn't work out. I Patrick Mahomes in a matchup, didn't get enough there. It was not a great Monday night for me, which is why I stuck to watching the Halloween Baking Championship. I watched the entire um fourth quarter of the game and that was it. Wow. I just checked my matchup in the Carton League now, because I don't know why I didn't check last night. Only one by three points. I was going up against Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelsey.

Remember I brought this up to you yesterday and I had Philip and I was like, you know, I think it's probably gonna be kind of close in the PPR League. Oh it was quite only one by three points, one seventies six, one seventy three and a PPR. Those are those are some pretty nice scores there, Greggy, anything on that, No, no, no, listen. I last night's game Creamhont was awesome. I'm not selling Creamhont. I disagree with you. I don't want to sell him high.

I'm a cream Hunt guy. I've always been a Creamhunt guy. I'm sticking with it. Really interesting match this weekend though with Kansas City and Jacksonville. But that is a really really interesting game. Yeah, I heard Gabe talking about this on Carton and Friends. Ready, what do you I don't know if you heard it, what do you think? The line opened up as I didn't. I didn't Casey hosting the Jaguars, Casey hosting the Jaguars. Casey is a four and a half point favorite. All they got was the

home for all. So given a lot of respect to the Jaguars, best defensive in the NFL. Rightfully, I'm looking at the upcoming schedule for Kareem Hunt right now because my immediate reaction was sell facing the Jaguars this week, which I mean, probably not a great matchup. I know, outside of that, see Kwon Barkley run. Like if you look at their yards per carry, it's like under three. Outside of that, like one se Kwon Barkley running week one.

Then the Patriots, that's a good matchup. The Bengals, who are getting Vonta's perfect back, so their run defense is going to be better. Denver again, which looked like a vaunting, daunted matchup last night and he actually uh performed well in it. And then Cleveland Arizona. The thing is, I just see the four targets in this game, and what he did in the receiving game, and and the fact that it happened in primetime on Monday night. And I know it's hard to sell Kareem Hunt, but what I

would just shop him. I would just shop. I would see what I could get in return. But hold on, we have to We have leagues great that we're playing right now. Like you have a home league where you're owing four, I have home league on one in three. My best players really the only three players that I have that are valuable Kareem Hunt, Mike Evans, and Zach Ertz. Mike Evans is on a by so like if I fall to one in four, my season is basically over.

I'm going to be shopping Kareem Hunt this week, just to see what kind of depth pieces I could get. I've already, you know, throwing some stuff out to you, like the possibility of trading him for Marshall Lynch and James White. I think I could probably get more from than that, but I'm gonna throw it out there. I gonna I didn't, I wouldn't be surprised. This is Karee Hunt's best game of the year. I disagree, man, I really do. I think you're like you have the Kareem

Hunt in the first round. Think about how frustrated we were with him the first three weeks of this season, especially in Week one, where you know, the Chiefs show us again how creative they like to get inside the red zone, inside the five, and I know since Week one they've kind of gotten away from that, like they've been giving Kareem Hunt the carries inside the five, inside the tent. Totally do you like that? But coming into this game, his yards per carry was not great and

he wasn't being used in the past game. So now in this game he kind of like bleu all of that away. Nineteen rushes for a hundreds twenty one yards, obviously great yards per carry average. There four targets again, more and then this one game than he had in three games coming into week four. I wouldn't be surprised if this cream Haunts best game this season. I would just I would try shopping. And I think you're under any creamht man. I don't know why. I don't know, man,

I'm I'm worried. I'm worried about like his usage with the Chiefs, like they get creative inside the red zone. It's not fun when you know, when you see stuffing that happened like it didn't Week one for Kareem Hunt. We in illegue. Karemem Hunt and I don't together. Yeah, flex, I have them get a wide receiver. I wouldn't do that right now, It's probably not gonna happen. Why you don't want my next running backster Alex Collins and carry on, Johnson,

carry on Johnson. I have Jordan Howard too, he's kind of bad. All right, let's see here I want. I'm gonna do it right now. I'm kidding with you. You want a wide receiver for Creamhunt? Right? You need? Oh boy, this is an issue. Yeah, you're not gonna be able to You're not gonna be able to get it done. Great, this whole this, this t Y Hilton thing hurt, Oh, Greg Susman Hilton thing hurt. Marshawn Lynch. So what does that mean for me? I just send you know, a

wide receiver. I would give you Marshawn lynn back maybe, and like I would want to Vonte Adams and Marshall and all right, I didn't finish yet. I would give you Kareem Hunt and a wide receiver in return. I get the better wide receiver, you get the better running back, you get the lesser wide rate. Who's who's the wide receiver? So I'm training you my wide receiver one and an RB two. You're trained me in RB one. I want a wide receiver two. Makes sense? Cooper, No, he's a

wide receiver two. He sucks. But didn't you hear me yesterday? I said so, I didn't hear That's why I'm saying no, you didn't say bye. I would say Kareem Hunt versus Davante Adams in a vacuum, Dreem hunts better. I would agree, But Davante Adams is like, who's the other running back Society? It's Marshall Barkley. Oh yeah, that doesn't make sense either. I don't have an RB three at all, Frank, I guess Frank Gore's RB three. It's more than Kenyan Drake.

Do you want Josh Gordon or Randall cop No? Maybe Josh got Josh Gordon sounds fun you, Tyler Boyd, but I don't really want to give him up. Would you do that Kareem Hunt and Tyler Boyd for Davante Adams and Marsha Lynch. That's interesting. That's interesting. This is t why Hilton injury really hurts me in a major, major,

major way. I don't think I want to give up Tyler Boyd though right now I have a lot of I'm on the board, have a lot of work on the waiver wireons week, Yeah, we do, which is probably where we should start. Craig is a waiver wire show, after all, it is a waiver wire show, and you know it's it's crazy because we haven't had maybe this week. We haven't truly breakout guys since the Tyler Boyd John Brown in week one or two whatever that was, like, we haven't had guys where you gotta really break the

bank and kill target. And I feel like this way this week is the same, like a lot of these guys that really went off this week that maybe free agents probably aren't break the bank guys. But there are some guys that are interesting. And if you want to start with Key, we could start with Kiki. We don't have to start with k you want to start with Ki, I'm wrestling with this one too, and I want to get your thoughts on because I I want to be aggressive on Kiki Kute of the Houston Texans. We don't

have a lot of information on Will Fuller right now. Again, they said Sunday that he could have returned in the second half. They played it safe with him, and you really saw Kiki um benefit from that. He had fifteen targets. Again, he broke rookie records for like fifteen targets, eleven receptions over a hundred yards for a rookie making his debut

in the NFL. UH And I spoke a lot yesterday about slot receivers and how again the evolution of the game right now, slot receivers are really the most fantasy viable right like guy like Adam Feeling, even emerging players like Tyler Boyd Sterling Shepard just had a big game yesterday. The Key they drafted him to be in the slot, to be that speedy guy who you know makes life difficult for opposing defenses, and that's exactly what he's going

to do. Look, they have DeAndre Hopkins and Will follow on the outside, like defenses need to focus on that. Kekey is going to get a lot of single coverage in the slot. What did we see out of Cooper Cup and guys like Robert Woods in the Thursday night game when Sean McVeigh is scheming these guys up to play in the slot and to move around all over the field, get them lined up with linebackers and safeties

and and you know, just creating mismatches. That's going to happen now for the Houston Texans, defenses need to double team DeAndre Hopkins deed like safeties need to go over the top to try and stop Will Fuller from catching bombs. Even if Kekey isn't getting you know, double digit targets, which is not gonna happen. If he gets six seven targets, those are gonna be quality, quality targets based on defenses trying to shut down the opposing weapons on the outside.

For the Texans, completely agree he will and will Fuller has the hamstring injury, which and if he doesn't even play this week, that makes Kicky even more five. So I'm with you and what you're saying, but I want to get into an injury just for a moment, because hamstring injuries linger. We've now seen it will Fuller, and we've seen it with Leonard four Nette. This is what's this year. This is what held him out of all

preseason and and week one. It's the same exact thing as Leonard four Net and the Leonard Fournet hamstring injury kept him out two weeks. He came back and reinjured it, so he wasn't fully healthy right theoretically, So that means this hamstring injury is probably about three week injury. Let's say we'll talk to Dr and Virginia about it on prediction and see if we could predict what they're going to say. Again, I'll say it's degree to hamstring strain

to hamstring strain. Um he should probably sit out this week, probably sit out next Now he's going to sit out this week, I'll say, and he probably his recovery time optimals four to six weeks, but he'll probably be back into three. I'll say his optimal recovery of times three to four weeks. It's not as four to six like you. I think it's because the reaggravation is making it for us. But he should say that this week. Is he gonna though? Yes, like Doctor Ay and inside injuries, Look, I respect the

hell out of Dr. A Virginia. What they do. They normally taking more cautiously optimistic approach, right, like they really Virginia's cautious austimation. They're cautious, like they're they openly say like this player should sit this week, They're probably not, and that's going to cause re injury, like they said that about Leonard Fournette, and look that's exactly what happened with Leonard Fournette and even Dalvin cooked to an extent last Thursday night. So I agree that will Fuller should

probably sit out. Is he gonna though I don't know well the latest of Wilfuller and I saw that I don't Texas. I saw this all wrote a world and Aaron Wilson had it on Twitter. The removal against the Colts was not for cautionary He has to see how it goes this week. This hamstring is reinjury. We're basically back to me and I could be wrong. We're back where we were in training camp where it cost him weeks and then and then week one. He was great

in week two. And there's clearly a connection between will Fuller and DeShawn Watson, like no doubt about it. But if Will Fuller's gone and Lamar Miller sucks, which he does, There's would be a lot of passing for Deshaun Watson. This is what this office is going to be. And K too, And this guy's electric after as great as DeAndre Hopkins is. You want to get Keky out in space and let him do his thing. I completely agree with you. He's electric after the catch. Now, why wasn't

he involved at all before this? Any idea for this game? He didn't play? Why this was his debut? I know that Bruce Ellingson, Bruce elling hurt. Yeah, he had an injury. I don't I don't know specifically what Bruce Ellington. Bruce Ellington had an injury to start the season. Okay, hamstring,

Bruce Ellington had a hamstring injury. He's on I R. So he's cemented in is cemented as the next wide receiver all because after that, Savy coats and we know the snaps this week too, So he was on the field like he's he's healthy, like they kept him out early the first couple of weeks to make sure that he could be healthy for this game, and which he was, and he played of the snaps and he led the team in targets with fifteen fourth round pick this year

out of Texas Tech. Certainly a high volume offense, certainly in college and NFL scouts love him too, Like he's a guy who, like Emery Hunt was all over. Okay, so this week faces Dallas certainly a spot that he could I don't want to repeat what he did, but they have strong corners on the outside. Like, don't get me wrong, but if he's playing slot, I think he's gonna be pevered with targets. Dude, how much bid? That's the question, right, Like I want to be aggressive with him.

I think he's the top wide receiver at like even more so than Antonio Callaway. Like I know Callaway is getting the targets consistently, um with Baker Mayfield now is the quarterback too, But I'm more interested in Kiki. Like in my home league, I have left, I might bid like thirteen. Okay, So the number that I was going to use, which like thirt he out of eighty one, it's probably close to Like, so the number that I was going to use, which it seems aggressive, is that aggressive?

It's fair? It seems like every week wide receivers emerged, though, on the waiver wire, don't they Every week we've had a wide receiver that we talked about, Well, yeah, it's kind of our job. But no, but like more so than running backs, like wide receiver is a position that you can find, there's been no running wide receiver, Like every week, there's been no running backs out there, Like the hinds were gonna get to you a little bit, like somebody who obviously can talk about it, not even

for his running ability. But thirteen divided by eighty one is sixteen percent, So I'm probably liking a like fifteen eighteen percent range? Is that fair? Do you like that? Though? Well? I was like that. I was going to say when I spent eleven dollars on Brandon Marshall Week one, it's how I feel right now. Also, that eleven dollar number seems to make sense for me when it comes to I don't know if other people do this, like do

you do this in your league? Somebody can look at my fab budge it and see that I have eighty one, and they might say, you know, people like to put fabit amounts that make their fab even right, so you can be like, I'll put eleven dollars so I have seventy. It happens all the time. Do that like everybody does it? Like I do it too. So people might look at my fab and say he has eighty one. If he wants to just put a round number on this, I'm gonna put thirteam. I do that. A lot of people

do that. I didn't know that. Yeah, do you do that with checks as well? You got you got a restaurant, you gotta check. Okay, you leave it, you put your credit card, you leave it tip. So if it's the meal cost four cents, don't tell me you do. I feel like that's obnoxious. Why like you leave like six dollars and seventy cents tonight to make it whatever a round number. I don't do that. That's be like I'll just give you six bucks. It's also easier to add I do. I don't know. I think I like it.

You too much work too, I'm a lazy guy. Agree, let's take a break. We have a lot more wide receivers to get to you. A bunch of running max as well, and the most importantly, who can you drop Frankie? And now answered that question when we come back with the FFS Daily Rodo dot com learned from the game's best DFS players. We don't just give you premier advice. We play every day, all major sports, all year round.

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had a great time. What are the what's the name of these guys? These guys are called Chromeo. I know this. I would enjoy stuff like this. Yeah, it was a like this. It was at Brooklyn Steel Frank. It was actually it was a really good show. These guys are like they're kind of like the way I put them is like take Daft Punked Beats prints. I gotta get in on this. I gotta get in on this. How are you Burned? Frank an album? I could do that.

There you go, what is burned me an album? Why do you make me a video cassette while you're at it? Tap recorder earlier? It doesn't make sense. Whatever, the cassette is a place, not not a recorder. What were those things called a little walkmansk ye? But what were the things that you put inside of them tds? You put a CD and a CD player, right walk, you put the set thing inside of It's not called tape recorder.

Tape recorders. Take the recorder tape of quorders like what they had in home alone too, right, that was a tape recorder. Agree, I had. I I went through all the phases of like music in life, so I obviously had one of those cassette things that you put it whatever its Yeah, sure, okay, thanks Chris. You know what's interesting about CD players back in the day when you put the CD, like if you would bang the CD

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Fantasy Factor dot com. That's Fantasy Factor dot com, Frankie. Before we get some of these other waiver wire moves, I want to hit on Levyan Bell cannot yesterday late. Levyan Bell will be returning to the NFL week number seven during these Steelers by he could have waited all the way to week ten. Instead, he'll come back for Week eight, which is at home against Cleveland. Now do you by that? Like, does it have to happen now? Just because it was reported doesn't have to happen. I did.

So the question is, now, how do you value Levan Bell? Like if you're four or oh, do you go out and try and trade for him? Yes? I think that's the only way you do it. Like I think if you're anything less than four, no, like even if I'm three in one, but depending on points, right, like the three and one the most points in the league. I don't think if I'm I would do it if I'm four. Now if I'm anything less, I just don't know that you can afford to be without because you're gonna have

to give up something to to get for him. And I'm looking at some of these Yahoo trades again just to get an idea of how people are valuing him. For example, mark Ingram just got traded for Levyan Bell. Who would you rather have Levan Bell? I think I would too, just because Arking is gonna miss one of the two next games anyway, so that you have that week six. So here it is right when you are four no or three and one at the ton of point, it's not like a flukey three and one, You're a

real three and one. If you have running back depth, it makes it easier to do obviously, here's the thing. If you're three and one with a ton of points, you're four. Now my future, I'm looking in the future. Lebyan Bell is a championship move. On Bell is a championship move. You're getting a running back of that miss the entire first half, his legs are fresh, and you have somebody for the entire stretch, run into the into the super Bowl, who is a number two or number

one overall pick and fantasy football leagues. That is what you do when you're trying to win a championship. If you have the ability to go and make that move, you do it. Now. A lot is dependent on where is Levy I been Bell owner right? Can he have four at this? Is he oh in four? If he's oh in four and knows he's not getting Bell back for the next three weeks, he's gonna have to make

a desperation move. If he's one in three, depending on the point situation, he's gonna have to make a desperation move. That's the way you go and get leby on Bell.

But I think this is good regardless, Like if you start off slow and you drafted Levian Bell and you've been burned and you didn't get James Conner, at least now you can get something for Levian Bell, if that makes sense, because before if you tried to trade him last week or two weeks ago, Like people are constantly asking us questions about should I do this trade for Levian Bell, And my immediate response was, how can you trade for this guy? You have no idea if he's

even going to play this year at all. At least now, if you're owing four or one and three or even two and two and you just want to try and get something for Levian Bell. At least now you can make that happen because he has value with this report coming out that he's gonna return throughout during the week seven by and then be back for weeks eight. I think on the flip side, you gotta ask what do

you do with James Connor? Right Like, obviously, if you own Connor and Levian Bell, you you just continue to hold onto them because if something happens to Levian Bell and you know, maybe it doesn't come back, or if he's traded, then you still have James Conner. But if you have James Connor and you don't own Levian Bell, you just kind of hold him now because it seems like you're not gonna get adequate value for him. It's hard,

it's really really hard to make that, to make that decision. Ultimately, Um, you can't just keep relating the Bell up for you can't get fleeced. Of course, you can't alter the balance of power in your league. It's really all dependent on the offer on your standing. There's no there's no there's no all encompassing answer to that question. Frank, Yeah, And that's pretty much how it's been all year. Long, Like there's no just right or wrong, Like, yeah, you should

trade Levion Bell now because this is when he's coming back. Um, there's no you know, you shouldn't trade him because he's coming back next week. At least now we have an idea. Again, I don't I don't know that just because of reports says that he's going to report throughout the week seven by that it's definitely going to happen. But at least we have something now, whereas we didn't have anything before. Um, some trades involving James Conner, Like would you do this

if you were a James Conner owner right now? Trade trade James Conner away to get Lashawn McCoy and John Brown Like that's cross. I don't want anything to do with creat James Conner and d D. Westbrook to get Davontae Freeman and Allen Robinson. Like that makes a little bit more sense. Yes, but James Conner three weeks from now to be a backup, that's giving you nothing. I get it, man, they could help you in the next three weeks. Freeman could at least, you know, maybe he's

a high n RB two he re injures himself. I mean there's risk on both sides. Yeah, fest Man, we need a good week this week as our team. Look, I don't know, I haven't looked at it yet. We're look at it right now. Yes see. Wow, we only lost by uh, you know, seventy five points. And that's with Taylor Gabriel in our lineup. You drafting Rob Gronkowski is not as fun as everyone makes it out to be. Not so much, you know what. To be honest, nobody said it was fun. We probably just should have listened.

He was pretty sick this week. All right, So let's set the line up right now. And I just said, no, don't. I can't do it without me Cam Newton. It's obvious their quarterback. I put in too many put in too many flexes. Sorry. Adrian Peterson is in for Jamal Williams. Wow, you know he's good. We're gonna have some questions this week. If Devantae Freeman is back, we use him in our flex. Look, Markingham's playing. We've waited this long. He's he's in our lineup.

We're putting him in our flex, and then we're gonna have to decide whether we want to use all right, forget it, let's let's do waivers because we're sitting it at the same time and now there's just like way too many players. I'm fixing it. I'm fixing it, all right. Well I'm almost done. All right. For those of you who are in by week, hell, say you drafted Mike Evans and Alan Robinson and Chris God you might need

a wide receiver this week, alright. Going over to the G S T lineup for the suggestion of Greg Suce, Cam Newton, Devanta Freeman, Adrian Peterson, Antonio Brown, Golden Tape, Robert was this is the bestest line is looked in the years. Freaking Rock Renkowski at tight end, who we might not even have. We have to pick up a tight end, mark Ingram and the flex brod those defense give the Jets love it. Adam and it's Harry going forward.

I believe he just broke his on the bat. Jaron Jones and Taylor Gabriel who has by Yeah, but we still have does Bryant. It's hilarious. But this is a deep league. It's like there's nobody on the waiver wire at this point. Just how good is that starting line up? It's good beings. I kind of want to get Aaron Jones in again Detroit rellowing the most fantasy points supposing running back we played this week. They're screwed. We're probably gonna still lose. I don't think so. You're just wrong

about that. Growing up against Chris Vaccarrow, how's his name? He has Shaun Watson, he has Todd Gurley, Hey Ji, and he still is not good. Nelson Aguilar are not good. Mike Evans on a bye. Yeah, the return of the BFFs. Jimmy Graham, he's like whatever in PPR. Marvin Jones, who's like whatever, it nice bench not looking too good. We could get Joe Mixon back. That would be unfortunate. Nah, don't make it. Inn in back this week? Screw that? Right, who's gonna put in as a wide receiver to fill

it from Mike Evans? He has Danny, Ammon Dola or Shard Matthews who is currently unemployed, Amred Meredith? All right, we can win. Things are looking up. The flex Marvin Jones was the wide receiver? You missed that? I mean, all right, whatever, he's gonna flex the tight end tight feel good this week? So what I was saying, Greggy, if you're in bi week Hell at the wide receiver position. The Colts wide receivers are gonna be interesting this week,

But Tee why Hilton out? The question is which Cults wide receiver do you pick up? Because Ryan Grant is owning just twelve percent of leagues, Chester Rogers and owning two percent of leagues, and they're going up against the Patriots secondary, who I know their defense looked a lot better this week against Miami, but still they've been prone to giving up fantasy points too wide receivers. And if I'm not mistaken, that's one of the highest over unders

already this week between the Colts and the Patriots. So expect Andrew Luck to kind of build off what he did last week. Obviously not do that again, but he's gonna have to throw the ball, and it looks like t why Hilton is going to be out that over under right now? Since at fifty one and a half points, if you had to choose one between Chester Rogers and Ryan Grant, Greggy, I'd said, right, So I recommended Nael

hurry up. Spoiler alert, I recommended Ryan Grant. I think, um, I love the present of just Naps He's playing who is the unknown White receiver for Colts, Zak Pascal, Zack Pascal. He was Yeah, he got a touch and he was targeted at another time in the end zone too. Facing the Patriots, they're gonna be passing a lot. Could be a big Ebron game. I guess, yeah, you have to see what happens with Jack Doyle. But yeah, again, Eric

Ebron was great. I'm with you, Eilean Ryan Grant just because Elean Ryan Grant and Chester Rodgers, both of them over. Pascal doesn't look like t why Hilton is gonna play in this game. So I would expect those two wide receivers to kind of be the outside guys and then maybe we get a little Niheim Hines, a player who we need to talk about now as well. Um, because they can't run the football. They just can't, Marlon Mack, Jordan Wilkins. They can't run the football. Again, they're using

Niheim Hines as an extension of the run game. They're throwing these short passes to them, and they even lined them up wide out wide last week on that touchdown and they really just threw a jump ball and Nineheim Hines came down with it. So I would expect a lot of Rogers, Ryan Grant, Ebron and Niheim Hines. I don't think they're gonna run the ball. I think all four of those guys can be targeted, you know, seven

plus times. Let me start with the wider re seivers and we'll get them the heat lines at a moment. How much do you spending on Ryan Grant? This is these are both short term plays, Like when Hilton is back like useless, it's gonna be hard to figure out weekend and week out? Is Tessa Rodgers the number two guy? Is you know is uh Is Ryan Grant the number two guy? So I think this offense really revolved around weekend and week out. It's gonna be Hilton, it's gonna

be the tight ends, and it's gonna be Hines. I do believe that. So there's just a short term play. But if you have bad matchups or you hurt by the bye weeks, I could see going a sighs like five to seven percent on you know Ryan Great. I'm not gonna break the bank, but I do think these guys can be serviceable on on Thursday Night against Patriots. Okay, uh, I agree, you don't give me a number at all, But Okay, I mystified the percent. I thought you just

would be serviceable. The only thing is you're you're only spending five seven percent if you're starting in this week, if you're not gonna wind up starting in this week, there's a point on them. Yeah. Absolutely, And that doesn't involve in the heame Hinds. Again, we're gonna get to what we're done with the wide receivers. Um Vin the Jacksonville Donte Moncrief and D D. Westbrook. D You Westbrook had an awesome, awesome game last week. Dante montcif has

has been a red zone guy for Jacksonville. Now they're facing Kansas City here this week. Huge Blake Bortles game. Blake Bortles a streaming quarterback this week. I'm comfortable playing how much you're spending the jacksonvill wide receivers. I'm more so intrigued in D D. Westbrook for the long term. I figure that Ante Moncrief only owned a nine percent of leagues. Again, this is a bye week play, a short term play. UM, I don't done. Moncrief has been

incredibly inconsistent. He's had two big games, he's had two duds. So this is just a matchup play against the Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe there's a chance that he catches a long touchdown or whatever. But Dante Moncrief his targets through four weeks five and week one than nine, than three, than five, So his targets have been a little inconsistent. Um,

I think you can say that about everyone on this team. Again, the Jaguars wide receivers is kind of like a sum of its parts, kind of like add up for Blake Bortles to be good this week. But Dd Westbrook thirteen targets, Um, that was a career high. Again, he was a rookie last year, so it's kind of a brief career. But you know, he he's the guy who I think more has more long term potential, more staying power for the

Jacksonville Jaguars. The way that he's used and the way he was used against the Jets in the middle of the field, you know, lining up inside, lining up outside, he can make things happen after the catch. Again, he is electric and he would have gone higher in the NFL draft last year if it weren't for off the field concerns. So against the Chiefs, I'm more so. Um, I'm more so in on d D. But again, if you just need a streamer for this week, I think

mon Creef is in that mix. As high as ten to twelve percent on d D. Moncrief is in that streaming this week. He's in that cult discussions like the seven person I agree with that with d D. But d D I'm more I'm more so like ten to twelve percent. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that whole hardly. So still he's your favorite so far, so yes. Uh. In terms of staying power long term, partial Antonio Callaway I think is in that mix with d D as well. Would you rather have Callowe or

d D. Westbrook right now? I think I would take Callaowe because I feel like there's less mouths to feed I in Cleveland, like it's Landry, it's in Joku, but they're not using Duke Johnson. That's very close for me. It is close what Calogy has been getting the tard it's too consistently. I'd like the DD plays Casey this week. Yeah, for sure, this week it's close. It's very because the Browns are going up against Baltimore and they're getting Jimmy

Smith back. You have to remember, all those suspended players are eld to return to Julian Edelman, Mark Jimmy Smith's perfect too. So that's gonna help the Bengals rush defense as well. UM, so you have to keep that in mind. I think definitely for this week. I like those Jaguars wide receivers more so than I do Callawaycloy has been getting the target definitely, and eventually he's going to convert

some of these targets into long touchdowns. Now, Mitchell Drobiski The truth this past week went off in Chicago, UM and the bfs not me. That's really a Frank and Mike thing all over. Taylor Gabriel. Florio had talked about it on his podcast, UM and Frankie actually started Taylor Gabriel in our land out this weekend. We got crushed, but no thanks to Taylor Gabriel, who was absolutely amazing. He's on a bye I wish you spent a Taylor Gabriel. This depends. Obviously, you have to have a player on

your bench you're willing to drop. UM get to that in a bit, But I think he's I think he's in that same mix, may be a little bit more aggressive on him more so than de d and callaway just because if you look at the targets, people don't realize this. Taylor Gabriel has twenty four targets over the last three weeks. He's averaging eight targets a game. He has a twenty two point four percent targets share on the season, whereas Allen Robinson is twenty four point eight.

So they're very close. Like Alan Robinson is still the guy, but Taylor Gabriel's number two. And we're realizing now the way that Matt Maggie is using Taylor Gabriel in this offense greg is similar to how Tyreek Hill is being used in the Chiefs off like sweep things where like he's running across the line, he's little like touch passes. We saw Taylor Gabriel score touched on that he can stretch the field, which saw just two years ago he was a fantasy viable wide receiver in the Falcons offense

because they found creative ways to use him. There's you know, outside of like Sean McVeigh and Andy Reid, there might not be more creative offensive mind calling place right now then Matt Naggie. So Taylor Gabriel I'm gonna be aggressive on him. You have to be able to obviously wait because he's on the buy. I'm more so willing to do this if I have a record over five, because the pickups that you make this week, if you're two and two or less, you need to win, you do so.

Taylor Gabriel, I'm more so inclined to be in on if I'm three and one or better, you know, maybe two and two. I'm fine, have deep benches and he's available, but I would bid more on him than I would Callaway or D D. Westbert. I don't know if you agree that is close. I think it's close. When we come back, who are dropping for these players? We're gonna let you know and go back over some of the running backs and the tight ends that you can pick up this week in Fantasy foot Box stick out, you'd

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think of that song? Frank? Not a fan? Now you're you're bopping though, Well, just because I like to bring energy to the show. I like to dance when the intra music comeback comes back in? Right, But not a huge fan? Who was that? Do you think it was? Can I hear it again? Is that possible? Can you play that? That intro? It's like one of these, like Elton John or like Billy Joel Guys, that's correct, that that's correct? Actually, which one do you think I need

to hear to go? He's Billy Joe very good. Do you know the song? I heard it like a million times in my life. I don't know the great song. My thing is, Greg, I grew up with my dad. You. I grew up with both of my parents, but my dad um laid a lot of music when I was younger, and a lot of it was classic rock, like heavy metal. Love it. So now whenever I hear any of those songs, I'm kind of they're kind of just like I'm done

with him. I don't want to hear them anymore. Does Miami seven and crack your top five Billies Joel songs? It is absolutely my top five, not only that's my number one song to go for in karaoke. Really, Oh yes, I think that would be a tough one to do. My seventeen is tough. What other songs that Billy Joel do? Only the good Diane classics. That's my good too, Actually, Bavona, I like that one. You mean like greatest hits here there's a piano man. Oh well, piano man just as

two easy It's just two easy scenes from Italian restaurants. Amazing. Obviously there's a old music that I hate. Sorry, guys, dreams is so good. I love Village Dude. That does not surprise me one bit. The fact that Bivona likes him, it's not surprising one bit either. It's I mean, it's not a bad thing. It's just you got strike me as like Billy Dooelguys, we are very much. I like to bounce around a little bit like I'm kind of

going through like this. I like the music that Bavona played last time coming in because I'm going through this phase of like eighties discoe, technoi whatever. I don't know like what that genres called, but like daft punk sounds a lot like it. Um anything that kind of sounds like that. I'm you know, so I'm gonna go download a bunch of that music that I have some Kia I like, I've heard some of his hers. I don't

know if it's hate or not. It's do you have any other Billy Joel greatest hittance have a lot, But you don't want to know that right now. You don't talking about some waivers? Yes, okay, so we give you a lot of wide receivers. And I think I was thinking about it during the break. It's really hard for me because mean the Taylory Gabriel and d Westbrook and Antonio Callawan. If I had to rank those three, uh, if I down Girls a great song, great song, I

would say, I'm gonna rank it. We didn't start the fire great song. I'm gonna rank it too. Deo Callaway, d D Westbrook and then Taylor Gabriel Gabriel third, are you still out on Taylor Gabriel? STI let him out on him? I just don't know. I just feel like the other I don't know. I don't I don't know. I think the others really like the target share that he's seeing right now, Like on the season, twenty two point four percent of the target share. That's a very

very strong number for a waiver wire wide receiver. I'm not saying like this guy is going to emerge and become a kids consistent wide receiver three for you, but I think he's a guy who can cover by weeks, who you know you might be able to play based on the right matchup. Was the right matchup against Tampa Bay, obviously, I wrote him up. Fantasy pros asked me to write up like a really deep sleeper and a bust inside

like the top forty. So I wrote up Taylor Gabriel as like a really deep sleeper last week, and so that worked out well. Um, I think I think they're all close the Jacksonville Jaguars. To me, I like the town of d. D. Westbrook a lot. But again, it's one week. It's healing Cole. When week gets d D. Westbrook, When week gets mon Creef, when we gets t. J. Yelden catching passes out of the backfield, we're probably gonna

get an Austin Safarian Jenkins a week. I just trust Callaway's targets and Taylor Gabriel's targets a little bit more. And I mean, how can you not be encouraged by the Bears passing game after what we saw this past week. I'm not gonna go ahead and say, you know, Trabinsky is a top ten quarterback already, but he made strides in that game. Matt Naggi's offense is clearly very creative.

Defenses are focusing on trying to stop Allen Robinson, trying to stop Trey Burton, trying to stop you know, Tarik Cohen catching passes out of the back to like between Tarik Cohen and Taylor Gabriel. There's a lot of speed on this Bears so much speed, and that's what we load the other Matten Needdie higher in the first place. Frank, let me get some players to drop before we get the yes, sir, can you drop Randall Cobb? Uh for any of the players we obviously we've mentioned. Yeah, I know,

Aaron Rodgers hasn't like himself. The Packers offense hasn't been overall that great, and people have been talking of Geronimo Allison. He has been getting it done weekend a weekes, but before last week he was consistently being out targeted by Randall Cob. Absolutely in the first three weeks, Randall Cobb had double digit targets in two of the first three games.

So if you're getting that many targets in the Packers offense, I still I trust Randal cob more, especially in PPR and those other guys, just because if you look at Taylor Gabriel and Callaway and d D. Westbrook, they're all arguably the number three option in their on their respective teams. Randall Cobb when he was healthy, even with Geronimo Allison like he was out targeting, like he was the numbered two or even number three target in the Packers pass game.

And I just trust Aaron Rodgers more than those other guys. Maybe to a fault, did you drop him for any of those players? It ten seeming Leaue, I wouldn't have a problem in a twelve teamer. I still buying into Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense. I agree with you. I agree, would you drop I just had one good question though, thank you, um oh my god, I just had a really good one. Mary's good. Marky's good. I wrote him in on the rundown. You know we're in

Saint Patuco. That's so funny. I would drop Marky's good one for all three of them. I agree, I think here. I mean, what more do you need to see? What about Jamie Crowder, Well, you held onto him throughout the bye week. He's probably again, he's probably like the number three target on his team too. I would say Jordan Reed and Chris Thompson probably are consistently going to stay. I think I'd rather have some of these guys and Jamie Crowder. I agree with you, just because Paul Richardson

is kind of in the mix. Josh Jockson, Actually, I got a decent number of targets in that Week three game before there before the Week four by there's just too many players in the Washington offense, and I don't trust Alex Smith to get the ball to Jamison Crowder all that much. Now, maybe they rectified that throughout the bye week. Maybe they made that a point of emphasis, like, look, we scored a touchdown with Jamison Crowder in Week three, Like he needs to be more involved in the offense.

There's certainly a chance that that happens, I think I would drop him for Gabriel. I would drop him for Callaway. I don't remember westbrook Man, which dropping for key Love Kiki. I would drop him for all of them, everybody. Everybody had advanswer on it. And if Jameson Crowder goes out and scores two touchdowns, you can kill me for it. This week, I would drop him for all those players, for everybody that picks up Mike's not off. I don't hear you. It's it's not off a everyone that picks

up KICKI like that. Have to change our team name, right, Yeah, of course, yeah, say yesterday? I agree. Are you sure your Mike is on? I'm quite positive is his Mike on? Yeah? I know it's it's on. Man. People in the YouTube chat, tell me if fix your headphones, dude, I don't hear you talking. I promise you. I'm here, okay, how to hear you? It's going in and out, dude. Those head flood suck it all right, We're back. We have circled around Niahis which Buffalo bills? Are we picking it up?

This week? We've circled Naheim Hines around. He's on CBS. Leagues right now. Um, Frank, you keeps saying it's for real how much he's spending on the mines in a PPR league. I will go as high as which might sound crazy, but the Colts cannot run the football. And we've seen this in the past with teams, you know, guys like Theo Riddic in years past, consistently finishing as you know, high end flex running backs in PPR league. It's because their respective teams cannot run the football. That's

exactly what we have here. The Colts cannot run the football. They have a lot of injuries on defense now too, so they're gonna be in shootouts and in those games, Nihem Hines is going to be on the field and they're using him creatively. Frank Reich, who's come over from the Philadelphia Eagles offense, the Philadelphia Eagles always had that pass catcher two and they always employ a lot of running backs in the rushing attack too. So that's exactly

what we're seeing here. Ninhem Heines is getting the opportunity. He's making the most of it. I mentioned yesterday, he's on pace for over a hundred targets. He's on pace for eighty eight receptions, he's not gonna get there. Can you catch seventy plus balls this year? Yeah? And if that happens, And we were drafting today and I told you that he Heines is catching seventy balls, He's being drafted as like an RB three, RB four or for

PPR leagues. So if you can get at like a flex running back in PPR or even in half PPR is probably more of like a low end flex running back, maybe like a high end RB four and half PPR, I would go like in full PPR A lot. It's a lot. It's warranted, and it's hard to find running backs right now, especially if you can find a guy like Hines in PPR right now. PPR sot is you have before something of that? Have you eight? You're spending a lot? Man? Right over on my calculator A five

you're spending you're spending twenty bucks. Spend eighty five is twenty five point five. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I don't know if I can go that high. I really don't know. A guy running macks are hard to find right now. Man, Like who's emerging? Who do you want from this group? T J Yelden his own in sixty eight percent of leagues, but honestly, he's probably owned everywhere

by Leonard four Nett owners. If he's available. If you play in a ten team league and you need a running back plug and play this week, t J. Gellvin is unquestionably your guy. Like regardless off you need a plug and play, t J. Yelden is your guy because Leonard four Net this is going to be a thing all year long. And if you were listening to me in the preseason, I told you do not draft Leonard Fournett. I was out. Hem Hines is the next guy, Ronald Jones.

Do you really want to invest in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Nope, running game in deeper leagues, fourteen teamers. He's only owning league, so fourteen teamers, maybe some deeper twelve team leagues. If you just want to take a shot on, like your RB six, your RB five, whatever, it might be Ronald Jones. There were reports that coming out of the by it's going to be Jameis Winston as the quarterback. Ronald Jones is a running back and that's kind of like the

starting tandem. But they can't run the football either. Mike Davis one percent owned. Do you want one third of a Seattle Seahawks mess of a backfield behind an offensive line? That's not great. Yeah, he just scored two touchdowns, but he did it against the Arizona Cardinals, who allowed six total touchdowns of running backs heading into last week. Now they've allowed eight total touchdowns to running backs through four games.

It was a great matchup, don't get me wrong. And if I own Chris Carson, then yeah, I probably go out and want to pick up Mike Davis. But just in a vacuum. If I need a free agent running back, am I rushing out to get Mike Davis? No, I'm not. If nightheam Hines available and he's only owning thirty three percent of leagues, that's the guy where if I need a running back, I'm rushing out and getting him. I get it. I think it makes fair. Will you drop

Kanyan Drake for him in a ten team league? Yes? Confidently, says yes, not a second thought. In a twelve team PPR league, I will drop Kenyan Drake for nineteen mins. Twelve team PPR, would you be a frank wore? I wouldn't want to because I feel like you're dropping Kenyan Drake at your at his lowest point of the season in terms of value, I would try my best to find anybody else on my team that I could drop

for nine mines. If there's nobody else, if you're stacked at wide receiver, all your other running backs, your backup running backs are great. Kenyan Drake is the one who's killing I'm dropping him in PPR for nine eight four four eight four three six seven nine. That's gonna do it for us? On YouTube today, cut up next to fantasy football Frenzy, Corey Parson, Corey Parson, Fantasy Executive, Uh, The Closer, Chris Venture and of course the Fantasy tas

Jim Day. If you're listening on the podcast or live on the radio going in another five minutes or so, make sure you subscribe to our channel, subscribe to the podcast, make sure you give us five stars. Please leave comment and uh give us some reaction. We we obviously very very much appreciated. Let me take a call here, Frank and help the brothers out. Go to Mike Little Rock. What's up, Mike? Hey, how's it going guys? It's going great, dude, what's going on? Uh? Well, I need some help for

running back. I don't listening to what you were saying, but I don't know really what to do. Um, I'm in a twelve team PPR. I am sitting at two and two now. I have Georgan's uh, Josh Gordon, I mean, I'm sorry, Jordan Howard, Melvin Gordon, Corey Clemmens and Williams from Green Bay, and of course Howard is off this week, and I really don't know what to do at running back. So is there anyone that we've mentioned throughout the show

today that's available on your waiver wire? Unfortunately, the the only thing that's really out there is Mike Davis, Nick Chubb or Frank Gore. Those are really the three that you kind of touched on. Yeah, mm hmm. Jordan Howard receiver, I'm stacked, and I'm kind of at a point looking at maybe trading to get and I'm great, okay, So which we're which wide receivers you have? Ah, the Marrius Thomas, Stepan Diggs, h Cooper cup Melbourne, I mean, Marvin Jones,

kend Of coll and Antonio Galloway. So I've got receivers, he said, Golladay. M huh, Callaway, I'm sorry, callaway, callaway, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, So you have so you want to keep digs in cup that's your wide receiver one and wide receiver two, and then you kind of have al right, you have to Marrius Thomas and Marvin Jones. Yeah, I would probably stop one of those guys just to see if you can get like a flex running back in return. That's something that I would

try to do. If not, well, Lliams is going up against the Bills this week. Like, if I had to choose one running back to start out of the guys that you mentioned, it would be Jamal Williams. But I would put a bid in on Frank Gore or Mike Davis. You know too. That was more of a long term play, like he needs someone to plug in this week. So if you need somebody this week, obviously, Chris car Chris Carson is out. The answers Mike Davis like that, that's

quite obviously. The already kind of hinted at Chris Carson returning, but they told us he was playing last week. So Mike Davis over Frank Gore for you, I think it makes sense if you just want a bid on one of them. I know, I just poo pooed Mike Davis, But you know, when you're in this predicament and you know some of those other running backs that you mentioned are the best guys available, then yeah, it's probably Mike Davis, but Jamal William going up against the Bills, Um, that

might be the guy that you play. If not, try and shop one of the Marris Thomas or Marvin Jones just to see if you can get, you know, an RB three in return, a flex running back, especially in PPR. Would you trade Marvin Jones get n Y Hinds right now, PPR League, It's a really really good question. If you're if you're running backs from Melvin Gordon and Jordan Howard and you have no running back depth, I'd probably do it. That's a really really good question. Um. But though that's

what you're looking like, you're trying to give up. I get it Marvin Jones or to Marries Thomas here because you have a little bit of wide receiver depth and you're trying to get one of those PPR backs that can help you throughout your bye weeks right now, because I know Jordan Howard sucked and he hurt, he burned a lot of people this week. I personally believe better days are coming for Jordan Howard. He's gonna be your RB two. But you're gonna need guys for bye weeks

and if injuries take place. So shop one of those wide receivers and see if you could get one of those PPR specialist kind of running backs in return, just to plug in being help. There you go. A frenzy is up next running back. Not easy to find, man, just simply not easy to find. We appreciate you washing and listening. Frankie Stample. My name is Greg Sussman. Yeah, that's We'll try to do it all again tomorrow. Wh